@@albapantheratigris6071 Almost any pallet in most pallets can be fast vaulted if the player knows how. Though there are a couple that are very hard to get
@@albapantheratigris6071 I didn’t watch the full video just going off knowledge I know, was it a vault on a pallet? Or because you can only mid vault a window so pallets are always slow or fast Or do you mean they like vacuum vaulted from farther away than your supposed to be able to? Just gotta clarify
a few days ago i was playing killer, match started, 90 seconds into the game and 2 gens pop, funny thing is, i had tinkerer and it never went off, yet 2 gens popped in 90 seconds, if i didnt have tinkerer i woudnt really have batted an eye, subtle hacking is a lot more scummy than blatant fr
tinkerer not going off has happened to me a couple times now. I hoped maybe there were 3 survivors there with toolboxes or something but nope... just 1 dude in a bush :(
Subtle hacks are becoming the new norm. Had someone cheating with like 105% movement speed. FINALLY downed them and they had Boil Over and I couldn't move. Post game they don't have Boil Over and I call them out and get called 'Bad' because I couldn't down them by other survivors. Thank you BHVR for your continued effort in doing nothing against this.
I never understood why these people act like calling you just bad and that's why you couldn't get them, like yes, you instantly opening the gate was just because you had a better gaming chair.
I literally couldnt get a feng off my shoulder one game, downed her super early as nurse just for her to lagswitch me or something and have her stuck on my shoulder the entire game, and then have the other survivors call me bad. Assuming they were her friends and new ab the hacks but if not wow they were annoying.
It's good Coconut reports them. Imagine someone who wouldn't pick up on these things, then the cheater shit talks, tbags, goes clicky clicky and the killer would just get frustrated. But as soon as you know they're cheating - you know it's not you.
they dont care they will pay 50dls again per month to continue hacking. BHVR needs to strenghten their anti cheat way more. is a decently big game how can you be using eac? eac is trash,.
Reporting hackers does literally nothing so for me I just call it a day and hope next game is better its also comically hard to really send in a report
The in-game report function doesn’t actually do anything… LMFAO And he’s not a fog whisperer, so it’s not like the devs give a shit about his stream, and are watching it and will ban the player on the spot.
Not only that but now there's an influx of people getting ddsosed on servers (including myself)--- thanks BHVR! Otz just recently was streaming and there's a !ddos command that shows the forums about the devs current stance on 'actively monitoring and investigating the situation.'
@@bird_with_knives Yeah I heard about that. Better not run any sweaty killer perks/addons or else you’ll get the SWATTED. There’s been a few cases of that happening to streamers lately and to random players.
Yeah I've been taking a break from this game and i don't see a reason to come back. I'll probably try the artist but that's it. I'm just waiting for Elden Ring to come out.
@@PlusSizedMichael You won't get swatted unless you live in America lol. Also you say it as every game is full of ddosers. I've never been ddosed and I've been playing online games since I was a little kid.
Kinda insane how people don't fess up to cheating and will go through extreme lengths to try and convince someone they aren't a cheater, especially when they verse a popular streamer they know. Anyways it's really scary to think that you could have countless cheaters in your matches without knowing it due to people like this. Could you imagine just one person let alone an entire team just cheating gen repair speeds, I feel like that would be extremely hard to prove and I think cheaters will get smarter over time and will just cheat objective speeds rather than chases which would make it virtually impossible to get those people banned, especially if they use bnps or repair toolboxes endgame to try and justify their repair speed.
@Hunter Rayna Subtle speed hacks are pretty evil. I caught one since my experience with the game made me think that the distance he got from me missing a lunge was weird. It's also hard to spot aura read hacks since you know we have legal hacks like wide resolutions that are allowed lol
it's cause they want to seem better then someone else when in IRL they are nothing but incel trash. Negative attention is still validation, something they want more then anything.
They do , they 4 man cheats over and over , making new accounts unlocking every perks and infinite items and if they get banned they just link the new account with family option , this has been a thing for an entire year.
Ikr!? All his time in dbd is supposed to convey his commitment to the game because it's something he enjoys. It doesn't mean he dedicates his life to it
The dude probably makes more per hour streaming Dbd compared this cheating dude who probably works a 9-5 and feels the need to waste money cheating in a video game lol.
@@raebrats7075 Even if he does, I don't even think that's reason to look down on him. As long as someone has basic moral values (like not being a lying shitbag), I don't even care if they want to dedicate their life to things some people might find frivolous.
@@shirin8609 Also, he literally gets paid to play Dead by Daylight. Like..... Imagine looking at someone who has worked a full-time job for 3 years (roughly 7k hours) and being like "Wow you loser, this job that gives you money to pay for necessities is your life"
Sometimes I have my suspicions when it feels like they are just making a lil too much distance but I never have the confidence to say without a shadow of a doubt they’re hacking. Doing gods work coco!
Yeah I’ve been having weird moments every other match where it seems like even in bloodlust it takes so long to catch up to someone. Even with them teabagging and spinning around to flashlight click.
It wasnt really a dis. Devs dont put 1000s of hours into the game since they're busy with patching it, creating content, etc. Knowing how to identify a hacker based on the amount of beeps from the exit gate is not knowledge they would have memorised
@@irritatingperson7882 Except. It is. When you develop a game and you have people answering these tickets, they should know these things inside and out. Hell somebody who has been playing for a MONTH knows how many beeps the door does alone. Let's not back up BHVR. They do a dogshit job with this game
Very annoying how BHVR makes it so difficult to report cheaters from in game. Had a blatant cheater the other night playing survivor and the killer rightly DC'd but nobody really seemed to be bothered reporting them as the feeling was it is too much of a hassle and BHVR won't do anything about it anyway
@@codeapoth That's so lame. The least the log could do is tag player positions every 10th of a second to see if there's some speed hacking, and checking charges on generators/doors/healing. 90% of subtle hacks involve moving faster, or completing objectives faster than would be possible and it's very easy to calculate the timings that are possible with legitimate players. An anti cheat worth it's salt should be able to cut down the tolerances to at least less than 1% where any hacks greater than that should be caught. A survivor hacking to move at 100.5 speed won't be much harder than a not cheating survivor, and an extra second on a gen isn't gonna end the game.
4:25 I can almost guarantee that the Feng is Wallhacking / ESP. I had the exact same thing with a Bill a few days ago. Did the most confusing mindgames around a Pallet gym, doubled backed like 5 times before he could possibly see me to be as confusing as possible, spinning like crazy. Always had perfect movement, stood perfectly every mindgame. So I wanted to find out, since he was on DeathHook, continued the chase until he made a mistake and went down through a window. Wasn't surprised as he instahealed himself INSTANTLY after going down.
@@Flyingeagle4998 Yeah bro, keep defending cheaters. Don't be a fucking idiot. Adrenaline doesn't pop when there's still 1 gen left. Learn the game. Also, sure good survivors are able to increase their speed to 102% and can see through walls. lmao you're stupid
@@xI_Fabi_Ix with the new boon perk coming out, speed can be increased to 102% without hacks, I suppose. also idk what the fuck this guy is saying, you absolutely can mindgame a good survivor.
You don't call the best Huntress, bad at the game. He is literally one of the most mechanically skilled players in DBD, and Coconut is always calm. I've never said him angry at losing a game
@@DarkState2 coco is better than spooky while their huntress gameplay is relatively similar, coco has more experience with all the killers overall than spooky does, and coco is better at hitting crossmaps and other unique killer interactions like that spooky's definitely an amazing killer, having gone up against henz's kill squad and still managed to get kills on weak killers, but i think coco's experience and broad talent wins it over
For the first video, Moek and Chylz are my friends that I’ve played with for a long time, they invited the Mad Your Bad guy into are group because he looked pretty good at the game. We found out within a couple games (this one included) that he was cheating. He went full blatant about it in the final game(instaheals and speed hacking)before we deleted him.
High MMR definitely makes many subtle hackers pop in this game, you can clearly see the difference between a good player that hugs walls to get more loops and ppl that simply do loops faster without even touching the walls and so on. And the most ridiculous part is that they like to brag about how good they are in chat, when they simply suck that much they need to cheat to win in a game that is not that difficult in the first place.
I actually recognize a few of those people from my games as well, they've been doing this for a while. I don't think the devs are actually doing anything about it either as I continue to see them to this day. I also have a personal friend who I know does hack and he doesn't even try to subtly hide it either, still not banned after a year of doing the things he does.
Sounds like we have someone here who secretly hacks and wants to spread the idea that reporting does nothing so don’t report after the video this is for showed two subtle hackers getting banned.
@@Blueberries409 how could the devs not be “doing anything about it as I continue to see them to this day” when it shows IN THE VIDEO that those people were banned? And the whole “it not me, I’m talking about/asking for a friend” thing is a bit old.
@@PurpleCyanideTube Correction. The video showed "some" of them, not all of them. There is a difference between the two. Notice that I said I recognized a "few", I did not recognize them "all". You interpreting what I said as "it not me, I’m talking about/asking for a friend" is a bit old and is also why it's a misinterpretation and not what I even remotely said or eluded to. Would you like me to get in discord with you and my friend so he can stream his screen for you? Will that amend this delusion you have? I'm not even being sarcastic here, he will live stream for you with both of us in the lobby as well. As I said in my first post, he flaunts it and doesn't care.
@@Blueberries409 so what you are telling me is you are willing to give me evidence to report to bhvr to get them banned? Regardless of weather or not what you just said is true, your original comment provided no substance outside of suggesting reporting does nothing. THAT is the main point I am making. If you didn’t mean it that way, maybe keep it in mind next time you post about it. If you DID mean it that way then screw you for trying to manipulate other people into being ok with hackers in a game.
I swear I had a 105% MS hacker today, when I played Huntress. I know how many times I have to go around the pallet until they have to drop it. If you did 5-7 circles and the distance got barely smaller, even with you taking corners as tight as possible, something is wrong.
The Feng's cheating was also pretty obvious when they ran through the exit, they took the time to teabag, their speed boost from the hit shouldn't have lasted as long as it seemed
It's almost like they should stop using anything client-side, or something. I'm not sure if BHVR is the laziest or most incompetent non-AAA studio around. Something is so fishy about how they operate. This game should have been brought up-to-date years ago. I've seen people code a DBD-like in a weekend as a college coding project. DBD has existed for 5 years, and they still cannot produce new content without breaking *major* aspects of the game. EDIT: I *do* understand that the work required to do work on this level would be a major undertaking--my point is that they have an entire company dedicated to a single game, and in the amount of time they have invested in this game, they could have made an entire new iteration of DBD and use the existing assets.
Their "servers" only re-broadcast inputs from users. If they were able to put checking logic in real-time there (assuming BHVR code monkeys are even capable of that) it would cut huge amount of recources ergo - most likely - decreasing amount of servers for players to connect to. Usually these things are made this way that server logs events from match, validates them later (or outsorces this task elsewhere) and puts "notches" on player profile if something sketchy happens and ban them when "bad boy points" get to the appropriate treshold. There could be also manual work and validation involved (because there is so many bugs in DbD it's scary). That's all wishful thinking, though. We all know how's job done at BHVR.
The problem is, BHVR's servers aren't authoritative. With an authoritative server, speed-hacking, genspeed-hacking, doorspeed-hacking, teleporting, insta-heals, etc would all be put to a stop. It's most likely that they are incompetent, not lazy. They do not understand dedicated servers and how they are supposed to work.
The subtle hacking is keeping me from playing... It's like you said. You play this game so long, especially as both sides, your brain SUBCONSCIOUSLY learns what's possible and what isn't. You can play a game as Killer and see WITHIN ONE SINGLE GAME a huge disparity in Survivor run speeds among different players. It's crazy, dude... It's in so many games.
Pretty sure exit gates beep twice normally when opened without letting go. When 99'd and left alone the beeping should continue for 2 or 3 more times. Cause exit gates get 99'd often that's probably why we're used to hearing more than 2 beeps
i'm late but i agree that wasnt a hacker. the gates beep 2 times when opening normally and 3 times when you 99. seemed pretty normal to me i hope he didnt get banned...
There's a lot of confusion about how the door beeps work. -It takes 20 seconds to open an exit without anything modifying it (Wake Up or Remember Me). -At 25% and 50% (5 and 10 seconds), there will be a clang. -At 75% (15 seconds) a beep will play, with another following ~3 seconds later and another ~3 seconds after that. This plays out even if you let go of the gate at 75%, BUT will be interrupted if you finish opening the gate. This means that if you continue opening the gate until it's 100% (like in the clip), the beeps would play at 15, 18 and 21 seconds. Since the gate opens at 20 seconds, the third beep never plays. However, many people will stop opening at 99% so they hear the third beep. That's why there's conflicting accounts as to whether there are 2 or 3 beeps. From what I can see, they were already on the gate for at least 9 seconds before it jump cuts so they were likely already over the 50% mark and he wouldn't have heard the clangs. Nothing about about the gate seemed fishy to me. That's not to say the player wasn't cheating though. It's just important when it comes to subtle cheating to have a clear understanding of what is and isn't possible. Otherwise it stokes paranoia which only helps the cheaters.
I was looking for this comment and it was explained very well! Although I think its questionable, I think the focus on the door opening was a bit flawed. You can clearly see someone on the gate already, so the comment about it not being 99% seemed a bit off. I had to go research how doors work (lol) and thought to myself yeah, that could have absolutely been legit. Which is a bit dangerous, you don't wanna ban someone like this without absolute evidence.
Finally, someone else who actually spoke up. CoconutRTS being so confident in his accusation and his chat reaffirming him, saying "3 or 4 [beeps]" is a recipe for disaster. ruclips.net/video/k00Sy1jN2mE/видео.html This video shows an exit gate being opened. I am honestly disappointed, but not surprised, at how few people actually spoke up. Everyone keeps spreading misinformation, and Coconut doesn't even double check to see if he is right. Instead, he assumed he was right and justified it by mentioning that he has over 7k hours, but that doesn't mean much.
@@Thegentechgamer ikr? It's appalling cuz he did in fact get this person banned over something that wasn't proven to be cheating. And his chat/fans are just mindlessly praising him for getting ppl banned without solid evidence.
@@dia8017 To be fair, even the Feng's teammates were saying she did questionable things. Sure the door could've been legit, but those gens absolutely weren't and her teammate knew it. To get all 5 gens done in less than 5 minutes is crazy fast. "Oh but if everyone was working on them together, it's possible". Yeah, except that Coconut has 3 hook states by the time they get done. Aint no way in hell with somebody on hook, somebody coming to rescue them THREE TIMES that all 5 gens get done in under 5 minutes. Sorry, but that door wasn't the only fishy thing in that match.
I was playing oni and i started thinking that a nea was hacking because whatever she was doing was pretty fast(gens heals running recovering). I wasnt sure till i saw that she insta fully healed a downed quentin. Everyone realized what she was doing and when i hooked her every one was trying so hard to rescue her and i was thinking why would they do that, are they friends?. I tunneled her, downed her 3 times because she was insta recovering into a big sprint burst. Thank god i had mori and i pressed the mori button so fasr so that she couldnt recover instantly and i finally got her. And that is only 1 game. The number of times we have met a hacker and we dont know it might be scary
This is also something that has to be told, there are killers that do subtle hacking as well, no speed giving perks and they are seriously fast at times throughout the game, like they just saw you and they get near you in less than three seconds and sometimes it takes them longer. I have seen people do this with Trickster, we know he's slow and I have seen tricksters that are waaay to fast
@@Adravil Wrong wrong and wrong, the majority subtle hack to avoid getting caught on their main account, only a minority actually rage hack. It's actually very easy to tell if a killer is using walls or not by the way they played and by their perks and addons, now there's endless of possibilities to prove that. 1. Faking BBQ, hooks then goes straight to a survivor without the perk. 2. Seems to check every hiding spot only when there's a survivor hiding in it, always ignores them when there's none. 3. Always wins mindgames, blinks/phases/rushes perfectly. 4. Goes back to a hooked survivor before they get unhooked, this of course may be by chance but multiple times is of course not. 5. Easiest one of all, knows where to check lockers. May hide it by checking one with no survivor, then instantly go for the one that does. If they do all of this, which many do in high mmr. There's no denial they're being subtle about their cheats.
Yeah I used to not understand how the survivors always could millisecond predict my swings after I was backrubbing them for like 6 seconds - turns out they don't gotta, lol!
Something i do is to suddenly look up. Even better if you have a power you can tap to raise your hand to trick the survivor into thinking you swung. I find this trick work's best on wraith and billy. You rev or begin to cloak and look up. Usually the survivor deadhards thinking you are swinging
I just encountered a possible cheater on console. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first... but then he did the exact same thing again during my livestream. We were playing in the RPD and I jumped over two seperate ledges at two different times... I wasn't even on the ledge or anywhere near him and he managed to levitate me back up into a grab. I know that killers can grab you if you haven't jumped but I was more than 50% of the way down and my character on both occasions just shot back up. I know this game has it's glitches, etc. but I find it very hard to believe that every survivor was glitching in the environment. I stayed to watch after he finally killed me and he did the same thing to everyone that tried to jump.... nowhere near the ledge but they would somehow zoom back up into his arms. I confronted the dude who said that I was just a bad player and he then got really pissed when I told him that I submitted a recording to Behavior. I've pretty much had it with the hackers in this game because it's always something.
they are scared to be unfair for aa legit player, like if you get banned for just play the game you are problably going to be pissed, but yeah, its kinda annoying lmao
@@diegobraga5481 a Lot of people that hack don't even get banned lol so as his chat and Coco said if you're not hacking You shouldn't be afraid of getting banned in the first place
@@SkylightSB the basement stair glitch has been active for at least 9 months, dead hard finally got made so it works the way that it should 4 years after being introduced, and getting pallet stunned as a nurse in the fatigue animation still sounds like a pinwheel. The game is extremely broken, so I can see why people are quick to jump to either side. Subtle cheaters and just really good survivors and offmeta builds are so hard to distinguish sometimes and it's nice to think that people have so much trust in random people on the internet that they don't want to jump to cheating. Not defending cheaters, just that the problem isn't exactly clear cut
Crazy how the subtle hacking problem is still so immense. I uninstalled due to other reasons earlier this month, but seeing that hacks are still prominent 2 years later, I'm not reinstalling until BHVR does something about it. But considering it's BHVR that'll happen in like 7 years. Item shop priorities over fixing the code.
With all of this I find it hilarious that during the anniversary event there was a dev note during the loading screen saying something like "cheats are unfair and it's my job to eliminate them :)". You're doing a great job bhvr employee, good for you. Good video though. I'm taking a break from dbd since it's nothing but a meta sweatfest with cheaters calling you names.
Holy shit coco, thanks for taking time to report these hackers because I’ve gotten 3 hackers recently and don’t feel like doing all the extra shit like sending a video to bhvr. 1 of the hackers was subtle and but also not subtle because they were solving my lament configuration instantly but they were using a subtle move speed increase aswell around shack I decided to humor them and chased her around shack for the rest of the gens never caught her lol, 2nd hacker was a blatant hacker screaming flying etc, 3rd hacker waited until the very end I downed her at the gate then she vanished from my feet out escaped. Anyways, thanks for taking time to do this the dbd community really appreciates it!
Your second Feng messed with me. I lost to them twice and now, I have no idea how it correlates, but my MMR hasn't been the same. I went from hackers and top end to just babies, all the time.
Dude I love these videos coco! There is something so so satisfying about owning somebody who thinks they can get away with cheating like this. Keep it up!
Love these videos of Coconut catching hackers especially the subtle ones and how he keeps us posted about whether they were met with consequences. I'm a baby killer, so if I were in that game, I wouldn't have been able to tell. It probably just makes me question my self esteem even more as a new killer. That and sometimes I can't tell if it's server lag when certain off-putting things happen either. Especially when there are perks in the game where the interactions make it look weird at times. At least the devs are actually doing something about these hackers now.
I once faced a speedhacker (not in DBD, but bear with me here) when i was playing killer. Whenever i tried chasing the guy, he would just start running and i'd never be able to catch up, and i could *actually see* him making distance on me. The problem is that he was using a survivor that repaired faster (IDV), so i couldn't chase him, cause i wouldn't be able to kill him, but leaving him alone meant the game ends faster. I only noticed it cause he was bad at hiding his cheats. If he started looping me, and used his hacks out of my LoS, i'd never have noticed, cause there are many ways to be fast in IDV. These survivors, however, are really freaking good at hiding their cheats. But it's good that Coconut can identify them through the power of experience.
Coconut's dedication the game and trying to clean out the hackers is inspiring. Keep up the good work man, always fun to see these points. Btw for reference with the door beeping, it might have helped to add in an example of how the door beep timing should work as a comparison so the devs can more clearly see.
Lmao imagine BHVR ignoring cheaters to a point that they see a great increase in survivor winrate in Big-Data therefore buffing killers overall to adjust it, that shit would be funny af
@@kr3016 here some basic maths for you man. survivor side has 4 players killer side has 1. The player base consists of about 67% only survivor players 10% only killer players and about 23% who constantly play both roles. Therefore it is statistically more likely that a cheater is on the survivor side than on the killer's side. And most killer cheaters I've encountered are just blatant hackers, not trying to hide anything, they mostly get banned in 2 weeks after posting video evidence. These little goblins in the video are running at 102% speed unnoticable to the naked eye but really damaging the health of the game.
In low ranks, there is another problem: afk killers with script to grind BP, and bots selling hacks. For afk killer, they will afk and perform specific action, some of them will post an ad at the post game chat selling the script, quote :"afk is unbannable, you can get free BP just by afk when you sleep" As for the bot selling hack, they join the lobby, they have names that direct you to buy hack, and leave the lobby about 20 seconds later. I reported the bot like last week, but apparently he still appear in my lobby days ago.
The crazy thing about all of this is that even when getting banned they'll spend however much money they need to to buy a new account and cheat again the devs are worried about the wrong thing honestly I'm not playing dbd next year I'm done
Damn coco is a solid hacker hunter, the door has many instances of the door opening so the killer can know, the locks opening in the door, then at 75 the door screams it’s almost opened 3 times.
As someone well-versed in being the exit gate man the gates make a very obvious sound when being opened: there's a creeking sound followed by a sorta hissing sound, then the two beeps. The creeking is the first light and the hiss is the second while the first beep is the third light and the second beep is the fourth light. This guy either skipped the first two stages of opening the door or made opening the door completely silent. Either way blatant hacker if you know the game, but I can totally see how even an experienced player would be second-guessing themselves (especially without video.)
correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the gate only beeps on the third light (75%), and the last beep would be same time as you open the gate? The only time when you can open it faster than the third beep is with perks like wake up, resilience, spine chill etc, which he doesnt have, but i think its kinda reasonable in the footage?
I'm pretty sure that if you never let go of the gate, it opens at the second/ right before the third beep. And if you do let go when it gets to that part, the gate beeps a total of 4/5 times. I think Coco was saying that they used a hack to get the gate to the 3rd light faster, and then turned the hack off, but i may be wrong. Still suspicious tho.
At 5:20 when the last Gen gets done and your Bitter Murmur activates you can see someone get on the exit gate and start opening it now I'm not saying they aren't hacking cause that Feng having the perfect run speed was suspicious but I don't think they hacked the exit gate
I'm not fully sure what Coconut is on about regarding the exit gate beeping at 25% and 50%, that's the part where it just makes some mechanical sounds. The exit gate only beeps three times when it goes from 75% to 100%. You even saw someone start working on it with BBQ.
@@VongoMongo actually now I'm unsure. The door video I watched the guy was actually being slowed by remember me. There was 3 beeps when he held the for the full timing. He then did a sped up one and there was two. Maybe it's only 2 when normal?
Revising this video now seems like a farce. 2% subtle speedhackers... "HAH!" BHVR said. "We'll just add a perk for 3% speed!". WHo would have thought this could possible ever become Meta... Surely not I!
I've come across many two subtle hackers in one match, a Kate and Huntress on Torment Creek. I was playing Elodie and we were losing to the huntress, but she never missed a shot, not one. She even knew where we were at all times even when we were in lockers away from gens as she hooked someone, she would come over and snipe us, so BBQ or Tremors were not active. Now the Kate, someone had just died and I was trying to work on a gen. The huntress raises her hatchet to snipe me again and I hide. I walk back and Kate runs away from me to the hook. The gen was 10% and now it was 60% when I only hid for 10 seconds. She didnt have a toolbox or that Yun-Jin perk cos I checked after I dced.
Please keep doing what you do! I know so many streamers that don’t bother reporting because they think it’s not worth it. Players like you are who make the difference!
To be 100% honest with you Coconut. Sounds have been very much bugged since patch 5.3.0. I can't always hear gens completing, totems getting clensend or other shit. Using sound as evidence isn't a 100% definitive proof at this point in the game. But it does point out that they really have to fix their sound issues
The exit gate only beeps twice btw. For some reason I also had the same idea in mind that it beeps 3 times, but I believe that only happens when you 99 the gate
The door thing doesn't look suspicious to me. Unless I'm hearing wrong, it beeped twice. After the second beep is over it only takes like a second or two for it to open, so the third beep won't go off.
Unless i am misunderstanding what you mean i think your wrong about the door "beeps" At 25% 50% and 75% the door "clunks" and a light comes on. At 75% it starts "beeping" its one extended audio file that inclues 2 beeps so if you were to stop at 76% you would still hear 2 beeps placed the same amount apart. if you hold it until it opens it will open just after the second beep ends (assuming nothing is effecting the speed) still agree with you that they appeared to be hacking btw. just wanted to clarify
Thank you for reporting them. I know people say it’s pointless but I really don’t think it is. I see so many streamers just say “Nah I’m not reporting. No use in doing it” which is infuriating tbh. They just let other people deal with the hackers and it becomes everyone’s issue. It’s better to try to report them and give BHVR a chance to ban. The more hackers, the worse this game gets. Give BHVR the information so they can do what they need to with it. They will have to do something at some point when they’re getting so many reports.
Call me out on here, Feng might've been speedhacking, or maybe gate had been progressed a bit. When the first light turns on, its a mechanical sound, 2nd light, still a mechanical sound, 3rd light is 2 beeps, then its a open.
Petition for Coconut to be on the hack review team. I've been dealing with subtle hackers for months. (Confirmed hits, suddenly damage negated while I'm performing successful hit animation, etc.)
On top of that, I had this POS Claudette who was dropping pallets that I had already destroyed, and when I finally managed to down her, I put her on my shoulder and she teleports INSIDE THE EXIT GATE and claims Adrenaline like.... #1, you were on my shoulder, and #2 all of your buddies were on the same gen, how the hell did 3 pop at once? I get very irritable about these fuckin' hackers
Btw, reporting them in game does literally nothing. The only way to get someone banned for hacking is by making a ticket with BHVR support and sending them evidence. Reporting in game goes right into the bin.
Gosh that door hack is very subtle, for those who are confused each beep of the door usually has a period of time before the next beep, so it goes beep- pause- beep- pause- final beep- short pause- door opens. Also coconut you missed this extra evidence of the door hack, look carefully at that door opening animation its a good 25% faster than normal gameplay and opens almost instantly enough to let a survivor through, and that is probably how BHVR figured out it was a hack , because the door doesn't open that quickly in a normal game.
Claim, you see the door already being at one tick or 'beep' see 8:36 therefor two more ticks is needed - still think that something was up or really weird about that survivor.
Great video! Good job getting them banned. When ever I call out subtle hackers half the time they gas light the lobby into calling me out for being bad lmao.
@@theburnedman3209 nah fam😂👌🏽 am good tho. But to fill you in; As you stated, whenever you accuse someone of "subtle hacking" it's only half the time they gaslight the community lmaoo... Whats not 50% about that? 😅
Blatant cheaters are actually so much more tolerable then subtle Cheaters, because if u are playing a match and then realise that someone is blatantly hacking, you can just laugh it off and have some fun because you know there isnt anything you can do. (Only case i see them being infurating is going for win streaks or bringing survivor pudding or escape cake or sum) But with subtle hackers, if you do not have tons and tons of hours and know almost everything about the game, you think you are just playing bad, then getting taunted then not even killing a single survivor. It just feels so infurating.
the worst thing about hackers is that you start to doubt legitimately skilled players
Edit: The replies to this comment are a wild and hilarious ride
Hitting fast vaults at questionable angles?
@@albapantheratigris6071 Almost any pallet in most pallets can be fast vaulted if the player knows how. Though there are a couple that are very hard to get
@@hallowedchromee310 no windows.
@@albapantheratigris6071 I didn’t watch the full video just going off knowledge I know, was it a vault on a pallet? Or because you can only mid vault a window so pallets are always slow or fast
Or do you mean they like vacuum vaulted from farther away than your supposed to be able to? Just gotta clarify
This isn’t correct. You can indeed fast vault windows. Pallets are only slow and fast, windows are slow, medium and fast.
a few days ago i was playing killer, match started, 90 seconds into the game and 2 gens pop, funny thing is, i had tinkerer and it never went off, yet 2 gens popped in 90 seconds, if i didnt have tinkerer i woudnt really have batted an eye, subtle hacking is a lot more scummy than blatant fr
tinkerer not going off has happened to me a couple times now. I hoped maybe there were 3 survivors there with toolboxes or something but nope... just 1 dude in a bush :(
I'm guessing they checked your perks, saw you had Tinkerer, did gens to 69% then auto-completed.
@Hunter Rayna if you are crouching with pig people cannot see your aura, only spine chill or premonition can detect you
This is the 3rd time I have heard of someone catching a subtle hacker because they used Tinkerer.
@@LordMorltha you can't auto complete a gen at some point it has to go past 70% which would cause tinkerer to go off
Subtle hacks are becoming the new norm. Had someone cheating with like 105% movement speed. FINALLY downed them and they had Boil Over and I couldn't move. Post game they don't have Boil Over and I call them out and get called 'Bad' because I couldn't down them by other survivors. Thank you BHVR for your continued effort in doing nothing against this.
Its just sad that people have to dead set cheat and attempt to hide it so they can feel a sense of accomplishment, over a game...
I never understood why these people act like calling you just bad and that's why you couldn't get them, like yes, you instantly opening the gate was just because you had a better gaming chair.
Maybe time to step away from it for awhile... Let the devs really feel your voices instead of being able to "mute" them.
Js
Well BHVR didn't develop EAC and I doubt they're capable of developing their own anticheat any better than this. It's hardly their fault
I literally couldnt get a feng off my shoulder one game, downed her super early as nurse just for her to lagswitch me or something and have her stuck on my shoulder the entire game, and then have the other survivors call me bad. Assuming they were her friends and new ab the hacks but if not wow they were annoying.
It's good Coconut reports them. Imagine someone who wouldn't pick up on these things, then the cheater shit talks, tbags, goes clicky clicky and the killer would just get frustrated. But as soon as you know they're cheating - you know it's not you.
You think this is bad go play crucible in destiny 2... Good that people are starting to pick up on this shit now though...
@@HammethGoesHam lag switching is so rampant there lmao it doesn't help that they teleport even with good connections
they dont care they will pay 50dls again per month to continue hacking. BHVR needs to strenghten their anti cheat way more. is a decently big game how can you be using eac? eac is trash,.
Reporting hackers does literally nothing so for me I just call it a day and hope next game is better its also comically hard to really send in a report
Hahaha feel ya man. I always get the cheaters when I have 4 wins so I normally don't get the 5 wins reward ;)
Coco doing the gods work right here.
*Devs work
But god bless Coco
The in-game report function doesn’t actually do anything… LMFAO And he’s not a fog whisperer, so it’s not like the devs give a shit about his stream, and are watching it and will ban the player on the spot.
@@scavvy4860 That why you see coco do Tickets and they actually do get banned lul
@@blooocki they didnt get banned luuul. Where you get that from, check the sources first thank ypu
Just weird how he lies about it, first I thought it was sarcasm but OK...
Get a load of this guy🙄
Man, this game is sure going to the bottom of the shit bin.
Not only that but now there's an influx of people getting ddsosed on servers (including myself)--- thanks BHVR!
Otz just recently was streaming and there's a !ddos command that shows the forums about the devs current stance on 'actively monitoring and investigating the situation.'
I've also read somewhere that it's been found out that it's pretty easy to leak ip-adresses so add that to that massive burn-hole
@@bird_with_knives Yeah I heard about that. Better not run any sweaty killer perks/addons or else you’ll get the SWATTED. There’s been a few cases of that happening to streamers lately and to random players.
Yeah I've been taking a break from this game and i don't see a reason to come back. I'll probably try the artist but that's it. I'm just waiting for Elden Ring to come out.
@@PlusSizedMichael You won't get swatted unless you live in America lol. Also you say it as every game is full of ddosers. I've never been ddosed and I've been playing online games since I was a little kid.
Kinda insane how people don't fess up to cheating and will go through extreme lengths to try and convince someone they aren't a cheater, especially when they verse a popular streamer they know. Anyways it's really scary to think that you could have countless cheaters in your matches without knowing it due to people like this. Could you imagine just one person let alone an entire team just cheating gen repair speeds, I feel like that would be extremely hard to prove and I think cheaters will get smarter over time and will just cheat objective speeds rather than chases which would make it virtually impossible to get those people banned, especially if they use bnps or repair toolboxes endgame to try and justify their repair speed.
Why is that insane?
@Hunter Rayna Subtle speed hacks are pretty evil. I caught one since my experience with the game made me think that the distance he got from me missing a lunge was weird. It's also hard to spot aura read hacks since you know we have legal hacks like wide resolutions that are allowed lol
it's cause they want to seem better then someone else when in IRL they are nothing but incel trash. Negative attention is still validation, something they want more then anything.
They do , they 4 man cheats over and over , making new accounts unlocking every perks and infinite items and if they get banned they just link the new account with family option , this has been a thing for an entire year.
I wonder if those people are bad gaslighters irl
"DbD is your life" says the one who used cheats just to feel good about themself.
Ikr!? All his time in dbd is supposed to convey his commitment to the game because it's something he enjoys.
It doesn't mean he dedicates his life to it
The dude probably makes more per hour streaming Dbd compared this cheating dude who probably works a 9-5 and feels the need to waste money cheating in a video game lol.
@@raebrats7075 Even if he does, I don't even think that's reason to look down on him. As long as someone has basic moral values (like not being a lying shitbag), I don't even care if they want to dedicate their life to things some people might find frivolous.
@@shirin8609 Also, he literally gets paid to play Dead by Daylight. Like..... Imagine looking at someone who has worked a full-time job for 3 years (roughly 7k hours) and being like "Wow you loser, this job that gives you money to pay for necessities is your life"
but how exactly did they cheat now? I mean the movement was sus and that the gens popped so fast, but the door can be opened within 2 beeps
Sometimes I have my suspicions when it feels like they are just making a lil too much distance but I never have the confidence to say without a shadow of a doubt they’re hacking. Doing gods work coco!
Damn one of my favorite content creators watching coco sick
Yeah I’ve been having weird moments every other match where it seems like even in bloodlust it takes so long to catch up to someone. Even with them teabagging and spinning around to flashlight click.
What a coincidence
Randomly finding stalky on my first time watching this random RUclipsr
You can't hide from me stalky
"This is going to be really hard to convey to the devs because I don't know if they understand their game enough."
Gold.
It wasnt really a dis. Devs dont put 1000s of hours into the game since they're busy with patching it, creating content, etc. Knowing how to identify a hacker based on the amount of beeps from the exit gate is not knowledge they would have memorised
@@irritatingperson7882 Except. It is. When you develop a game and you have people answering these tickets, they should know these things inside and out. Hell somebody who has been playing for a MONTH knows how many beeps the door does alone. Let's not back up BHVR. They do a dogshit job with this game
Very annoying how BHVR makes it so difficult to report cheaters from in game. Had a blatant cheater the other night playing survivor and the killer rightly DC'd but nobody really seemed to be bothered reporting them as the feeling was it is too much of a hassle and BHVR won't do anything about it anyway
you need video proof otherwise they won't issue a ban
@@darkgxk Yeah exactly why nobody could be bothered
@@darkgxk That's because their trash anti-cheat doesn't provide logs, and they only log pregame and postgame chat, not the actual match itself
@@codeapoth That's so lame. The least the log could do is tag player positions every 10th of a second to see if there's some speed hacking, and checking charges on generators/doors/healing. 90% of subtle hacks involve moving faster, or completing objectives faster than would be possible and it's very easy to calculate the timings that are possible with legitimate players.
An anti cheat worth it's salt should be able to cut down the tolerances to at least less than 1% where any hacks greater than that should be caught. A survivor hacking to move at 100.5 speed won't be much harder than a not cheating survivor, and an extra second on a gen isn't gonna end the game.
4:25 I can almost guarantee that the Feng is Wallhacking / ESP.
I had the exact same thing with a Bill a few days ago.
Did the most confusing mindgames around a Pallet gym, doubled backed like 5 times before he could possibly see me to be as confusing as possible, spinning like crazy.
Always had perfect movement, stood perfectly every mindgame.
So I wanted to find out, since he was on DeathHook, continued the chase until he made a mistake and went down through a window.
Wasn't surprised as he instahealed himself INSTANTLY after going down.
@@Flyingeagle4998 Yeah bro, keep defending cheaters. Don't be a fucking idiot.
Adrenaline doesn't pop when there's still 1 gen left.
Learn the game.
Also, sure good survivors are able to increase their speed to 102% and can see through walls. lmao you're stupid
@@xI_Fabi_Ix with the new boon perk coming out, speed can be increased to 102% without hacks, I suppose.
also idk what the fuck this guy is saying, you absolutely can mindgame a good survivor.
@@lunasagaming5801 yeah idk what his hot take was. I'm a rank 2 killer and you definitely can mind game there.
I would assume that an instaheal works instantly lol
@@entertextfortitle well, yeah, but also I highly doubt that bill was running some kind of strange ass perk that instaheals you on knockdown
You don't call the best Huntress, bad at the game. He is literally one of the most mechanically skilled players in DBD, and Coconut is always calm. I've never said him angry at losing a game
Between him and Spookyloopz imo
@@DarkState2 coco is better than spooky
while their huntress gameplay is relatively similar, coco has more experience with all the killers overall than spooky does, and coco is better at hitting crossmaps and other unique killer interactions like that
spooky's definitely an amazing killer, having gone up against henz's kill squad and still managed to get kills on weak killers, but i think coco's experience and broad talent wins it over
Love that you're showing that they actually get banned. They try to convince people that reporting does literally nothing to them.
For the first video, Moek and Chylz are my friends that I’ve played with for a long time, they invited the Mad Your Bad guy into are group because he looked pretty good at the game. We found out within a couple games (this one included) that he was cheating. He went full blatant about it in the final game(instaheals and speed hacking)before we deleted him.
@@kr3016 I know you’re being sarcastic but look at the vids on my channel. I play with them all the time.
High MMR definitely makes many subtle hackers pop in this game, you can clearly see the difference between a good player that hugs walls to get more loops and ppl that simply do loops faster without even touching the walls and so on. And the most ridiculous part is that they like to brag about how good they are in chat, when they simply suck that much they need to cheat to win in a game that is not that difficult in the first place.
Because DBD is a game full of lame virgins
@@llamatreee I mean it's true but there's no need to be mean about it.
@@andrasfogarasi5014 sorry
I actually recognize a few of those people from my games as well, they've been doing this for a while. I don't think the devs are actually doing anything about it either as I continue to see them to this day. I also have a personal friend who I know does hack and he doesn't even try to subtly hide it either, still not banned after a year of doing the things he does.
Sounds like we have someone here who secretly hacks and wants to spread the idea that reporting does nothing so don’t report after the video this is for showed two subtle hackers getting banned.
@@PurpleCyanideTube you seriously read what I typed and that's what you got from it? Delusional.
@@Blueberries409 how could the devs not be “doing anything about it as I continue to see them to this day” when it shows IN THE VIDEO that those people were banned? And the whole “it not me, I’m talking about/asking for a friend” thing is a bit old.
@@PurpleCyanideTube Correction. The video showed "some" of them, not all of them. There is a difference between the two. Notice that I said I recognized a "few", I did not recognize them "all". You interpreting what I said as "it not me, I’m talking about/asking for a friend" is a bit old and is also why it's a misinterpretation and not what I even remotely said or eluded to. Would you like me to get in discord with you and my friend so he can stream his screen for you? Will that amend this delusion you have? I'm not even being sarcastic here, he will live stream for you with both of us in the lobby as well. As I said in my first post, he flaunts it and doesn't care.
@@Blueberries409 so what you are telling me is you are willing to give me evidence to report to bhvr to get them banned?
Regardless of weather or not what you just said is true, your original comment provided no substance outside of suggesting reporting does nothing. THAT is the main point I am making. If you didn’t mean it that way, maybe keep it in mind next time you post about it. If you DID mean it that way then screw you for trying to manipulate other people into being ok with hackers in a game.
3:45 dude talks about opera gx but still uses chrome xD I love ya man I'm a fan of your huntress
It's actually firefox and idk if that's better or worse
They didn’t pay Coco enough
The video was probably recorded before the sponsorship
I swear I had a 105% MS hacker today, when I played Huntress. I know how many times I have to go around the pallet until they have to drop it. If you did 5-7 circles and the distance got barely smaller, even with you taking corners as tight as possible, something is wrong.
Nope that is just normal.
@@hickle94 No its not if u hug tightly you still have to drop on maybe ur 4th loop vs huntress if not ur third before she gets a hit
And it becomes obvious if they're outrunning you while you have active bloodlust
The Feng's cheating was also pretty obvious when they ran through the exit, they took the time to teabag, their speed boost from the hit shouldn't have lasted as long as it seemed
God I love how hackers shit talk after being unable to win matches playing legit. So sad on their part, I don't even.
It's almost like they should stop using anything client-side, or something.
I'm not sure if BHVR is the laziest or most incompetent non-AAA studio around. Something is so fishy about how they operate. This game should have been brought up-to-date years ago. I've seen people code a DBD-like in a weekend as a college coding project. DBD has existed for 5 years, and they still cannot produce new content without breaking *major* aspects of the game.
EDIT: I *do* understand that the work required to do work on this level would be a major undertaking--my point is that they have an entire company dedicated to a single game, and in the amount of time they have invested in this game, they could have made an entire new iteration of DBD and use the existing assets.
Their "servers" only re-broadcast inputs from users. If they were able to put checking logic in real-time there (assuming BHVR code monkeys are even capable of that) it would cut huge amount of recources ergo - most likely - decreasing amount of servers for players to connect to. Usually these things are made this way that server logs events from match, validates them later (or outsorces this task elsewhere) and puts "notches" on player profile if something sketchy happens and ban them when "bad boy points" get to the appropriate treshold. There could be also manual work and validation involved (because there is so many bugs in DbD it's scary).
That's all wishful thinking, though. We all know how's job done at BHVR.
The problem is, BHVR's servers aren't authoritative. With an authoritative server, speed-hacking, genspeed-hacking, doorspeed-hacking, teleporting, insta-heals, etc would all be put to a stop. It's most likely that they are incompetent, not lazy. They do not understand dedicated servers and how they are supposed to work.
Didn't they say that hackers are customers too? meaning they don't really care if they buy accounts to hack.
They Just Care about money, thats it
Thanks for using your thousands of hours of experience against the dark arts of cheating, you're the real mvp.
The subtle hacking is keeping me from playing... It's like you said. You play this game so long, especially as both sides, your brain SUBCONSCIOUSLY learns what's possible and what isn't. You can play a game as Killer and see WITHIN ONE SINGLE GAME a huge disparity in Survivor run speeds among different players. It's crazy, dude... It's in so many games.
Pretty sure exit gates beep twice normally when opened without letting go. When 99'd and left alone the beeping should continue for 2 or 3 more times. Cause exit gates get 99'd often that's probably why we're used to hearing more than 2 beeps
Thank you for being the only one to realize that.
i'm late but i agree that wasnt a hacker. the gates beep 2 times when opening normally and 3 times when you 99. seemed pretty normal to me i hope he didnt get banned...
There's a lot of confusion about how the door beeps work.
-It takes 20 seconds to open an exit without anything modifying it (Wake Up or Remember Me).
-At 25% and 50% (5 and 10 seconds), there will be a clang.
-At 75% (15 seconds) a beep will play, with another following ~3 seconds later and another ~3 seconds after that. This plays out even if you let go of the gate at 75%, BUT will be interrupted if you finish opening the gate.
This means that if you continue opening the gate until it's 100% (like in the clip), the beeps would play at 15, 18 and 21 seconds. Since the gate opens at 20 seconds, the third beep never plays. However, many people will stop opening at 99% so they hear the third beep. That's why there's conflicting accounts as to whether there are 2 or 3 beeps.
From what I can see, they were already on the gate for at least 9 seconds before it jump cuts so they were likely already over the 50% mark and he wouldn't have heard the clangs. Nothing about about the gate seemed fishy to me. That's not to say the player wasn't cheating though. It's just important when it comes to subtle cheating to have a clear understanding of what is and isn't possible. Otherwise it stokes paranoia which only helps the cheaters.
I was looking for this comment and it was explained very well! Although I think its questionable, I think the focus on the door opening was a bit flawed. You can clearly see someone on the gate already, so the comment about it not being 99% seemed a bit off. I had to go research how doors work (lol) and thought to myself yeah, that could have absolutely been legit. Which is a bit dangerous, you don't wanna ban someone like this without absolute evidence.
Finally, someone else who actually spoke up. CoconutRTS being so confident in his accusation and his chat reaffirming him, saying "3 or 4 [beeps]" is a recipe for disaster.
ruclips.net/video/k00Sy1jN2mE/видео.html This video shows an exit gate being opened.
I am honestly disappointed, but not surprised, at how few people actually spoke up. Everyone keeps spreading misinformation, and Coconut doesn't even double check to see if he is right. Instead, he assumed he was right and justified it by mentioning that he has over 7k hours, but that doesn't mean much.
@@Thegentechgamer ikr? It's appalling cuz he did in fact get this person banned over something that wasn't proven to be cheating. And his chat/fans are just mindlessly praising him for getting ppl banned without solid evidence.
@@dia8017 To be fair, even the Feng's teammates were saying she did questionable things. Sure the door could've been legit, but those gens absolutely weren't and her teammate knew it. To get all 5 gens done in less than 5 minutes is crazy fast. "Oh but if everyone was working on them together, it's possible". Yeah, except that Coconut has 3 hook states by the time they get done. Aint no way in hell with somebody on hook, somebody coming to rescue them THREE TIMES that all 5 gens get done in under 5 minutes. Sorry, but that door wasn't the only fishy thing in that match.
I love coco so much. I hate cheaters with a passion and it's nice to see someone getting out of their way to make the community so much less toxic.
I was playing oni and i started thinking that a nea was hacking because whatever she was doing was pretty fast(gens heals running recovering). I wasnt sure till i saw that she insta fully healed a downed quentin. Everyone realized what she was doing and when i hooked her every one was trying so hard to rescue her and i was thinking why would they do that, are they friends?. I tunneled her, downed her 3 times because she was insta recovering into a big sprint burst. Thank god i had mori and i pressed the mori button so fasr so that she couldnt recover instantly and i finally got her. And that is only 1 game. The number of times we have met a hacker and we dont know it might be scary
I feel bad for Coco, I face hackers all the time in high mmr but it's killers instead with esp and subtle speed hacking.
This is also something that has to be told, there are killers that do subtle hacking as well, no speed giving perks and they are seriously fast at times throughout the game, like they just saw you and they get near you in less than three seconds and sometimes it takes them longer.
I have seen people do this with Trickster, we know he's slow and I have seen tricksters that are waaay to fast
@@alejandromujica7914 We never implied that survivors are the only hackers. You two seem like survivor mains trying to say ''you are bad too".
@@Adravil Wrong wrong and wrong, the majority subtle hack to avoid getting caught on their main account, only a minority actually rage hack.
It's actually very easy to tell if a killer is using walls or not by the way they played and by their perks and addons, now there's endless of possibilities to prove that.
1. Faking BBQ, hooks then goes straight to a survivor without the perk.
2. Seems to check every hiding spot only when there's a survivor hiding in it, always ignores them when there's none.
3. Always wins mindgames, blinks/phases/rushes perfectly.
4. Goes back to a hooked survivor before they get unhooked, this of course may be by chance but multiple times is of course not.
5. Easiest one of all, knows where to check lockers. May hide it by checking one with no survivor, then instantly go for the one that does.
If they do all of this, which many do in high mmr. There's no denial they're being subtle about their cheats.
5:23 you can see that theyre already on the door here and probably for 5+ seconds
Yeah I think the exit gates are legit
I swear there's so many dead hard cheaters because I'll literally wait ages to swing and no matter how long I wait they still dodge it
w the dh validation change u can literally jus react to the swing startup
Yeah I used to not understand how the survivors always could millisecond predict my swings after I was backrubbing them for like 6 seconds - turns out they don't gotta, lol!
@@nya69 Dno really how you would react to a M1 not swing but just 1 press of the button bud.
Something i do is to suddenly look up. Even better if you have a power you can tap to raise your hand to trick the survivor into thinking you swung. I find this trick work's best on wraith and billy. You rev or begin to cloak and look up. Usually the survivor deadhards thinking you are swinging
Yeah there are hack to auto dead hard when the killer swings
this is why we need a replay system
"You don't belong here" that's a smart words Coco
I love that he promotes opera gx and uses Firefox in the video lmao
Shhhhhh don't tell opera gx
@Estrogen Fury I used it since chrome kills my pc
@Estrogen Fury its actually pretty good
@Estrogen Fury I see nothing wrong with it, I use chrome and opera and both work pretty much the same
I bet you’ll be astonished to find out 99% of sponsored products are complete trash lol
I just encountered a possible cheater on console. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first... but then he did the exact same thing again during my livestream. We were playing in the RPD and I jumped over two seperate ledges at two different times... I wasn't even on the ledge or anywhere near him and he managed to levitate me back up into a grab. I know that killers can grab you if you haven't jumped but I was more than 50% of the way down and my character on both occasions just shot back up. I know this game has it's glitches, etc. but I find it very hard to believe that every survivor was glitching in the environment. I stayed to watch after he finally killed me and he did the same thing to everyone that tried to jump.... nowhere near the ledge but they would somehow zoom back up into his arms. I confronted the dude who said that I was just a bad player and he then got really pissed when I told him that I submitted a recording to Behavior. I've pretty much had it with the hackers in this game because it's always something.
My boy got sponsors now? (‘: I can’t wait till you’re as big as you deserve to be 💪🏻
And now 103% is just normal dbd experience xddd
Thanks for single handenly doing EAC work!
This video was really entertaining and also really made my day when you showed they actually got banned
I hate when the chat just always tries to defend the hacker
they are scared to be unfair for aa legit player, like if you get banned for just play the game you are problably going to be pissed, but yeah, its kinda annoying lmao
@@diegobraga5481 a Lot of people that hack don't even get banned lol so as his chat and Coco said if you're not hacking You shouldn't be afraid of getting banned in the first place
@@SkylightSB the basement stair glitch has been active for at least 9 months, dead hard finally got made so it works the way that it should 4 years after being introduced, and getting pallet stunned as a nurse in the fatigue animation still sounds like a pinwheel. The game is extremely broken, so I can see why people are quick to jump to either side. Subtle cheaters and just really good survivors and offmeta builds are so hard to distinguish sometimes and it's nice to think that people have so much trust in random people on the internet that they don't want to jump to cheating. Not defending cheaters, just that the problem isn't exactly clear cut
Crazy how the subtle hacking problem is still so immense. I uninstalled due to other reasons earlier this month, but seeing that hacks are still prominent 2 years later, I'm not reinstalling until BHVR does something about it. But considering it's BHVR that'll happen in like 7 years. Item shop priorities over fixing the code.
With all of this I find it hilarious that during the anniversary event there was a dev note during the loading screen saying something like "cheats are unfair and it's my job to eliminate them :)". You're doing a great job bhvr employee, good for you. Good video though. I'm taking a break from dbd since it's nothing but a meta sweatfest with cheaters calling you names.
Holy shit coco, thanks for taking time to report these hackers because I’ve gotten 3 hackers recently and don’t feel like doing all the extra shit like sending a video to bhvr. 1 of the hackers was subtle and but also not subtle because they were solving my lament configuration instantly but they were using a subtle move speed increase aswell around shack I decided to humor them and chased her around shack for the rest of the gens never caught her lol, 2nd hacker was a blatant hacker screaming flying etc, 3rd hacker waited until the very end I downed her at the gate then she vanished from my feet out escaped. Anyways, thanks for taking time to do this the dbd community really appreciates it!
Your second Feng messed with me. I lost to them twice and now, I have no idea how it correlates, but my MMR hasn't been the same. I went from hackers and top end to just babies, all the time.
only 2 beeps and then the door opening right after is completely normal
Dude I love these videos coco! There is something so so satisfying about owning somebody who thinks they can get away with cheating like this. Keep it up!
Love these videos of Coconut catching hackers especially the subtle ones and how he keeps us posted about whether they were met with consequences. I'm a baby killer, so if I were in that game, I wouldn't have been able to tell. It probably just makes me question my self esteem even more as a new killer. That and sometimes I can't tell if it's server lag when certain off-putting things happen either. Especially when there are perks in the game where the interactions make it look weird at times. At least the devs are actually doing something about these hackers now.
I once faced a speedhacker (not in DBD, but bear with me here) when i was playing killer. Whenever i tried chasing the guy, he would just start running and i'd never be able to catch up, and i could *actually see* him making distance on me. The problem is that he was using a survivor that repaired faster (IDV), so i couldn't chase him, cause i wouldn't be able to kill him, but leaving him alone meant the game ends faster.
I only noticed it cause he was bad at hiding his cheats. If he started looping me, and used his hacks out of my LoS, i'd never have noticed, cause there are many ways to be fast in IDV.
These survivors, however, are really freaking good at hiding their cheats.
But it's good that Coconut can identify them through the power of experience.
Coconut's dedication the game and trying to clean out the hackers is inspiring. Keep up the good work man, always fun to see these points. Btw for reference with the door beeping, it might have helped to add in an example of how the door beep timing should work as a comparison so the devs can more clearly see.
I hate when the chat tries to defend the hacker
Why, coco is not perfect, he can be wrong too you know
"yeah i am that guy" that sentence killed me LMAO much love dude much fucking love pls keep doing this and hopefully we get rid of these idiots soon
Lmao imagine BHVR ignoring cheaters to a point that they see a great increase in survivor winrate in Big-Data therefore buffing killers overall to adjust it, that shit would be funny af
@@kr3016 here some basic maths for you man. survivor side has 4 players killer side has 1. The player base consists of about 67% only survivor players 10% only killer players and about 23% who constantly play both roles. Therefore it is statistically more likely that a cheater is on the survivor side than on the killer's side. And most killer cheaters I've encountered are just blatant hackers, not trying to hide anything, they mostly get banned in 2 weeks after posting video evidence. These little goblins in the video are running at 102% speed unnoticable to the naked eye but really damaging the health of the game.
In low ranks, there is another problem: afk killers with script to grind BP, and bots selling hacks.
For afk killer, they will afk and perform specific action, some of them will post an ad at the post game chat selling the script, quote :"afk is unbannable, you can get free BP just by afk when you sleep"
As for the bot selling hack, they join the lobby, they have names that direct you to buy hack, and leave the lobby about 20 seconds later. I reported the bot like last week, but apparently he still appear in my lobby days ago.
The crazy thing about all of this is that even when getting banned they'll spend however much money they need to to buy a new account and cheat again the devs are worried about the wrong thing honestly I'm not playing dbd next year I'm done
Good riddance
Damn coco is a solid hacker hunter, the door has many instances of the door opening so the killer can know, the locks opening in the door, then at 75 the door screams it’s almost opened 3 times.
You are so sympatic and smart 👍🏻 keep up the work
A guy tried to be subtle but it was so noticable after 30 second chase.
This man played 7k plus hours of this game and still doesn’t know that there is a perk to speed up opening the gate and it only beeps twice
thank you for thinking with your brain instead of your ego
As someone well-versed in being the exit gate man the gates make a very obvious sound when being opened: there's a creeking sound followed by a sorta hissing sound, then the two beeps. The creeking is the first light and the hiss is the second while the first beep is the third light and the second beep is the fourth light.
This guy either skipped the first two stages of opening the door or made opening the door completely silent. Either way blatant hacker if you know the game, but I can totally see how even an experienced player would be second-guessing themselves (especially without video.)
correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the gate only beeps on the third light (75%), and the last beep would be same time as you open the gate? The only time when you can open it faster than the third beep is with perks like wake up, resilience, spine chill etc, which he doesnt have, but i think its kinda reasonable in the footage?
I'm pretty sure that if you never let go of the gate, it opens at the second/ right before the third beep. And if you do let go when it gets to that part, the gate beeps a total of 4/5 times.
I think Coco was saying that they used a hack to get the gate to the 3rd light faster, and then turned the hack off, but i may be wrong.
Still suspicious tho.
Yeah, it beeps around the third light for 3 times. It's weird in the video that no one seems to know that with certainty.
That feng was definitely so embarrassed and you read them like a book
At 5:20 when the last Gen gets done and your Bitter Murmur activates you can see someone get on the exit gate and start opening it now I'm not saying they aren't hacking cause that Feng having the perfect run speed was suspicious but I don't think they hacked the exit gate
Exactly
I'm not fully sure what Coconut is on about regarding the exit gate beeping at 25% and 50%, that's the part where it just makes some mechanical sounds. The exit gate only beeps three times when it goes from 75% to 100%. You even saw someone start working on it with BBQ.
keep up the good work, this community needs to clamp down on even the smallest of hacks as best it can !
Enzimay!
Idk y I love your compilations so much especially the bloodwarden😂😂
It's legal now, with mft XD
This is a good video on hacking. Shows gameplay, explains pov, does something about it.
Actually the door beeps only 2 times
That's not true, it's 3.
@@gallade1052 i just played a match a few min ago and there were only 2 beeps
@@iwinBeast I just watched a video of a door opening. It beeps once around 80% then twice more when it's in the 90%s
@@gallade1052 can you link the vid? cause afaik if you never let go it should only beep twice
@@VongoMongo actually now I'm unsure. The door video I watched the guy was actually being slowed by remember me. There was 3 beeps when he held the for the full timing. He then did a sped up one and there was two. Maybe it's only 2 when normal?
Love how I’ve seen this sponsor so many times on other channels. But for some reason he really persuaded me to get it😭
Video starts 2:14
Runs faster than slowest killer in the game: “hacker guys I am a virgin”
Revising this video now seems like a farce. 2% subtle speedhackers... "HAH!" BHVR said. "We'll just add a perk for 3% speed!". WHo would have thought this could possible ever become Meta... Surely not I!
I’m normally skipping ads that influencers put into their videos but I’m not mad at this one. This one seems kind of dope!
I've come across many two subtle hackers in one match, a Kate and Huntress on Torment Creek. I was playing Elodie and we were losing to the huntress, but she never missed a shot, not one. She even knew where we were at all times even when we were in lockers away from gens as she hooked someone, she would come over and snipe us, so BBQ or Tremors were not active.
Now the Kate, someone had just died and I was trying to work on a gen. The huntress raises her hatchet to snipe me again and I hide. I walk back and Kate runs away from me to the hook. The gen was 10% and now it was 60% when I only hid for 10 seconds. She didnt have a toolbox or that Yun-Jin perk cos I checked after I dced.
Please keep doing what you do! I know so many streamers that don’t bother reporting because they think it’s not worth it. Players like you are who make the difference!
To be 100% honest with you Coconut. Sounds have been very much bugged since patch 5.3.0. I can't always hear gens completing, totems getting clensend or other shit. Using sound as evidence isn't a 100% definitive proof at this point in the game. But it does point out that they really have to fix their sound issues
The exit gate only beeps twice btw. For some reason I also had the same idea in mind that it beeps 3 times, but I believe that only happens when you 99 the gate
The door thing doesn't look suspicious to me. Unless I'm hearing wrong, it beeped twice. After the second beep is over it only takes like a second or two for it to open, so the third beep won't go off.
bruh the ad was like 20% of the video lmfao
My man, you’re like Batman cleaning gotic city. My respects
Ok CoconutRTS, Do MORE off these please, I love watching these on my new stream, Thanks BRO
Unless i am misunderstanding what you mean i think your wrong about the door "beeps"
At 25% 50% and 75% the door "clunks" and a light comes on.
At 75% it starts "beeping" its one extended audio file that inclues 2 beeps so if you were to stop at 76% you would still hear 2 beeps placed the same amount apart.
if you hold it until it opens it will open just after the second beep ends (assuming nothing is effecting the speed)
still agree with you that they appeared to be hacking btw. just wanted to clarify
Thank you for reporting them. I know people say it’s pointless but I really don’t think it is. I see so many streamers just say “Nah I’m not reporting. No use in doing it” which is infuriating tbh.
They just let other people deal with the hackers and it becomes everyone’s issue. It’s better to try to report them and give BHVR a chance to ban. The more hackers, the worse this game gets. Give BHVR the information so they can do what they need to with it. They will have to do something at some point when they’re getting so many reports.
As someone with constant awful ping that spikes into six digit spikes constantly and constant three digit resting pings, 120 MS does NOT do that
this channel is beginning to become a hacker buster channel
What irritates me the most about hackers, isn't so much that they're hacking themselves, but that they equate hacking with skill.
Call me out on here, Feng might've been speedhacking, or maybe gate had been progressed a bit.
When the first light turns on, its a mechanical sound, 2nd light, still a mechanical sound, 3rd light is 2 beeps, then its a open.
"Not the hero we Deserve, but the hero we needed."
~ James Gordon
thank you for keeping the servers clean of cheaters dude, doin the lords work truly
Petition for Coconut to be on the hack review team. I've been dealing with subtle hackers for months. (Confirmed hits, suddenly damage negated while I'm performing successful hit animation, etc.)
On top of that, I had this POS Claudette who was dropping pallets that I had already destroyed, and when I finally managed to down her, I put her on my shoulder and she teleports INSIDE THE EXIT GATE and claims Adrenaline like.... #1, you were on my shoulder, and #2 all of your buddies were on the same gen, how the hell did 3 pop at once? I get very irritable about these fuckin' hackers
Btw, reporting them in game does literally nothing. The only way to get someone banned for hacking is by making a ticket with BHVR support and sending them evidence. Reporting in game goes right into the bin.
Gosh that door hack is very subtle, for those who are confused each beep of the door usually has a period of time before the next beep, so it goes beep- pause- beep- pause- final beep- short pause- door opens.
Also coconut you missed this extra evidence of the door hack, look carefully at that door opening animation its a good 25% faster than normal gameplay and opens almost instantly enough to let a survivor through, and that is probably how BHVR figured out it was a hack , because the door doesn't open that quickly in a normal game.
At 5:23 you can see some guy trying to 99 the gate thats why it opened so fast. Someone just sussy and salty
I love this game but stopped playing because of the fear of subtle hackers like this. This video is therapeutic.
The first clip with all the megs was so funny WHAT WAS THAT LMAO
Claim, you see the door already being at one tick or 'beep' see 8:36 therefor two more ticks is needed - still think that something was up or really weird about that survivor.
Ah, a 39daph fan!!! A man of culture I see!!!
My man on his crusade against hackers. Keep it up
"dbd is your life holy shit" I mean... yeah. he's a dbd streamer...
Great video! Good job getting them banned. When ever I call out subtle hackers half the time they gas light the lobby into calling me out for being bad lmao.
It's just lag. Get over it
@@maxthompson6014 Bait
@@theburnedman3209 cope. It's just 50 %, as you said. right?
@@maxthompson6014 You have to have a 0 IQ with reading comprehension that bad.
@@theburnedman3209 nah fam😂👌🏽 am good tho.
But to fill you in; As you stated, whenever you accuse someone of "subtle hacking" it's only half the time they gaslight the community lmaoo... Whats not 50% about that? 😅
Blatant cheaters are actually so much more tolerable then subtle Cheaters, because if u are playing a match and then realise that someone is blatantly hacking, you can just laugh it off and have some fun because you know there isnt anything you can do. (Only case i see them being infurating is going for win streaks or bringing survivor pudding or escape cake or sum) But with subtle hackers, if you do not have tons and tons of hours and know almost everything about the game, you think you are just playing bad, then getting taunted then not even killing a single survivor. It just feels so infurating.