It might actually still be WiFi that is interfering with it and making the range less than advertised. Even though there arent many houses arround, there are plenty of people in those cars, most likely each one having a mobile phone, and whenever a mobile phone is away from a known network they tend to get real active trying to find a network they can connect to.
Signal propagation is a a function of height, among other things. That's why communication/tv/radio towers are always located at higher elevations. This test is useful in that it simulates two antennas (transmit & receive) near ground level - naturally, the frequency footprint is going to be much smaller/shorter. K4QEP
Talk about immersion! Whether on a simulator or in actual flight, sitting in front of a large fan (turned on "High") while flying the Avata ... is a game changer! 👍😎👍
My cousin attached his to a fiberglass boat and got 20,000 feet, could have had more but he had other things to do that day. He knew better than range testing near metals.😉
Impressed by that tiny Avata skills... though I won´t be able to afford it in near future, so the more I enjoy your videos. Thanks and big up from Germany
If you fly analog FPV then you wold know that water/moisture in the trees block video signal. So, very impressive seeing non line of sight blocked by trees cos leaves contain water.
You should do this test but strap the avata to a ultra light plane. This is actually a neat idea. Most of us fly the avata low and in tight spaces. It’s neat to see such good range for that. Of course you will get better range if you had it up high.
Sure I'll comment. For an RC car this is an accurate test, but not for an aircraft. Getting an antenna higher gives better signal. Not having a crap load of water based leaves in between will definitely give you better signal.
@Richard Amiss it is a thing, they even make special antennas that push the signal against the ground floor to provide exactly that (long range while close to the ground)...check out the Crossfire Diamond 👍
It disconnected when the car went around a bend, putting hundreds of trees between you and the craft. If it would have been truly LOS at 300'AGL, you could have gone farther.
That car is definitely holding it back from crossing the Indian Ocean. Seriously though 3km with stock antennas, at ground level is great! Surprisingly good honestly.
I have several Avatas. I've flown mine right at 2 miles away while sitting on my back porch. (video to prove it). This was over trees, water towers etc at about 1,500ft On return, it died about 1/10th of a mile from my house. Had to drive and pick it up. I guess I could have flown it farther if I had more battery.
Ken, my Avata was giving me short range after an update and I noticed that when the video started on mine it was never higher than 30mbps, which I see is the same on yours at the opening of the video. I added the "fcc" file on my goggle sd card and it was now back up to 50mpbs and my range was as normal. Not sure what happened but it seems like my FCC USA version got knocked to a different region during an update. Just curious if you noticed that before with yours.
It looks like the vehicle was slowly turning on the highway right before you lost the signal? Would the turn blocks the direct line of sight to the drone and interrupt the signal?
So you were just shy of 2miles, but I wonder if there would be a difference if the drone was actually flying. Not knowing where the drone antenna is, but if it's on the bottom of the drone then yes, reduced range because of the light bar and vehicle would be a problem
does the altitude affect the total distance it can remain connected? I recall the mini models and the bigger mavics usually have epic range with the caveat of needing to be rather high up?
I would like to get a vest like Ken has. I am a hobby pilot so I won't want to get one that says that I am licensed. I have taken the safety test and have passed them, no problem. Any suggestions?
I took my avata 2 to 14000 feet yesteday and still had 12% battery left when coming back. I think 20 000 feet is possibl with it in perfect conditions.
Hey man, no disrespect. You shouldn't be flying that high with any drone. You run the risk of interfering with local air traffic at that height...very sketchy and technically it's against federal law to be above 400 meters in a lot of places. Be safe out there!
I have achieved 4km range (13000ft) in open field with CE Mode. But i had to abort because i was running out of battery and emergency landed short of my homepoint.
Not very good test in my opinion. Usually you’re flying up higher with drones. Not a few feet off the ground. You’ll have much better signal and range if you’re higher up. Why not test it and fly it? If the signal starts to cut out, you can do the RTH and it will fly back.
You should test “launching” the drone while its strapped on the car/roof. Then just drive with both the drone and controller with you to see how far it’ll show the drone is away from you before the battery dies or the home location updates as you move with everything
@@KenHeron Drones operate primarily in the UHF frequency band - same as cell phones and digital TV. Unlike HF and VHF, the UHF band is influenced minimally by trees/structures. K4QEP.
Possibly the only legal range test I’ve seen on RUclips! But the results might be different if the drone was at a normal flying altitude that would improve its line of sight thus improve the radio signal between the drone and the controller. Try the range test from a paramotor That in the right conditions could carry the drone at a higher altitude or meet the visual site requirement. Might be wacky too!
Hi I recently crashed my phantom 3 pro and I was wondering what I should do since it is discontinued. It was charged and just fell out of the air randomly. Please help
Agree with this. I think the most restricting factor being the altitude although I bet you could get more distance in a boat going over water. I think an important point about this is that a true distance test would likely be an FAA violation even if they removed the LOS limit. To get the maximum range, you would likely need to increase the altitude too much.
Speaking of flying ranges...anyone kno what Id need to get my Avata to maintain good transmission between drone and goggles 2 or its Motion Controller, when flying through thick trees, beyond the 150 or 200 meter range [on my own rural lands]? That range is where transmission weakens severly, the HD bars go 1 and then red, and vision is lost or very delayed and confused. We have "Wifi Range Extenders" for our internet range, is there some similar device i could rig for the Avata and its goggles 2? I need to go to about 350 yards thru trees for my purposes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@@rw4669 for a second there I thought you had called me a bitch, and was wondering why I bothered commenting on RUclips again haha. The issue here is most likely the radio receiver and controller (Dji controller 2) since the O3 Air Unit should be rated for up to 10 km. There are infact extenders you can get for the controller (I believe a commonly used one is from Yagi) but the downside is that it will increase range in one direction at the expense of the range around (so your controller needs to be facing the drone). Another option is buying another RTF drone with ELRS and an ELRS controller but this would set you back 400 to 600 dollars (assuming you DON'T have the Integra goggles, otherwise it will be more). Last option you could try is starting your flight from a higher point, like your roof. It could make the difference for the extra 100 meters.
@@KenHeron Hi. I'm in the US so I should have that version. But before, when I switched to manually picking the transmission mode, I had only once choice of channels at 40MHz. After I did the zero file hack, now I have three. I did this back in September and I've not been out recently so things may have changed. Before the hack, I could barely get a half mile away at 400 ft (not 100% clear line of sight). After the hack, I could get 6000 ft.
The lower you go the worst signal gets i was going to try this myself but with out height its inaccurate. Its best to fly it normal. And have someone drive under the drone
How hilarious it would have been if Ken mounted the drone on a gimbal to the roof of his car like Google maps has, and sent it down the highway. That would have been amazing
Well he did do the test that maybe 25 above the homepointe so it could be accurate from that low of a height. I'm sure if he was up higher he probably would have got better range better range, which is why I wonder why he just didn't do a range test like that but I guess because he lives in an area where he would get in trouble
I don't know y I'm so drawn to your channel!!! It's such an escape from the everyday hustle this is the first hobby where it actually feels like your part of a family 👪 my real family hated drones and were eaten by sharks 🦈 in the north pacific so my drone family means a lot lol
Go ahead and make fun of my voice. ;-) but you should get a little more range if you are high up in the air. Also, keep in mind that the Avata is made to fly close to the ground. I am assuming that you get less range if you are flying with the motion controller.
If your drone can go over 100mph, no the faa won’t care unless you are being reckless and endangering things/people. Of course only if they find out. But if you are being responsible going 100mph with an fpv they won’t care.
@@maddercat there are places where you can have fun with racing drones. I’m pretty sure out in public there is a set speed limit of 100 mph but like just don’t post videos going that fast? Lol police aren’t going to come to your door btw. If your given a violation, all of it is usually handled over the phone. Its pretty hard for an faa agent to know if your staying under the speed limit if there is no footage with a drone speedometer.
How is it an accurate test if youre not testing your signal as well as the distance you can travel on 1 battery at drone speeds not car speed. You did a signal test not a range test
Great way to test and get the drone back without any mishaps. Impressive range for a cinewhoop drone, translating to good penetration for the drones intended purpose of proximity flying. I love it, you got two thumbs up from me !... I am curious if the poor little drone was trying to return to home when the signal was lost, but found it self strapped to a huge metal beast moving at ludicrous speeds !, It must have been terrified for a bit ! lol ;-) ( Maybe for the next test recruit Tucker Got and get him to strap it to his helmet while flying his para motor, that would be a viral video !)
I just got this drone and it only flies half a mile before the video cuts out. This happens when i am in direct line of sight of the drone and nothing in the way. Anybody knows why i am not getting the extra range like this guy did?
I flow over 3km many times in different places here in Europe in a direct line of sight, and its then when the signal starts to get weaker. Also I have heard and read others flying over this mark. Did you updated it? Also check your settings on goggles where you can change and adjust the maximum height and distance
@@aigidiskeI also lose my HD signal when I go over 200 meters with my drone in clear line of sight. The HD signal literally goes away all at once. Very annoying………!
It might actually still be WiFi that is interfering with it and making the range less than advertised. Even though there arent many houses arround, there are plenty of people in those cars, most likely each one having a mobile phone, and whenever a mobile phone is away from a known network they tend to get real active trying to find a network they can connect to.
Signal propagation is a a function of height, among other things. That's why communication/tv/radio towers are always located at higher elevations. This test is useful in that it simulates two antennas (transmit & receive) near ground level - naturally, the frequency footprint is going to be much smaller/shorter. K4QEP
I'm sure someone said this but a funny graphic of the Avata lifting up the car, in an attempt to 'returning to home' might have worked...laugh wise.
The drone was 5 feet off the ground; as you know, altitude increases range.
Get lower 🙌
ken is on the reefer again.. love it🙈
Talk about immersion! Whether on a simulator or in actual flight, sitting in front of a large fan (turned on "High") while flying the Avata ... is a game changer! 👍😎👍
My cousin attached his to a fiberglass boat and got 20,000 feet, could have had more but he had other things to do that day. He knew better than range testing near metals.😉
Boat propably eliminates the tree interference too
The ending...favorite part hands down lol
That was a great test Ken. Thanks!
Impressed by that tiny Avata skills... though I won´t be able to afford it in near future, so the more I enjoy your videos. Thanks and big up from Germany
If you fly analog FPV then you wold know that water/moisture in the trees block video signal. So, very impressive seeing non line of sight blocked by trees cos leaves contain water.
!0,000 feet and only 5 feet altitude is impressive. No telling how far you could go at 350 feet altitude.
My Avata is almost here. Thank you for this information it is actually helpful to me.
Glad it was helpful!
I love the different things you do with drone, great video
Losing line of sight driving around the slight bend after the bridge means losing radio signal. To be expected. Plants are a microwave blocker.
You should do this test but strap the avata to a ultra light plane.
This is actually a neat idea. Most of us fly the avata low and in tight spaces. It’s neat to see such good range for that. Of course you will get better range if you had it up high.
Sure I'll comment. For an RC car this is an accurate test, but not for an aircraft. Getting an antenna higher gives better signal. Not having a crap load of water based leaves in between will definitely give you better signal.
This is a great test for people who want to fly close to the ground, which is where the Avata shines. It's not a 400ft in the sky drone
@@Fly_High_FPV long range and close to the ground is not a thing people do though
You don't hang with the right people. 🤓
@Richard Amiss it is a thing, they even make special antennas that push the signal against the ground floor to provide exactly that (long range while close to the ground)...check out the Crossfire Diamond 👍
It disconnected when the car went around a bend, putting hundreds of trees between you and the craft. If it would have been truly LOS at 300'AGL, you could have gone farther.
Seems so obvious!
Out the box i flew mines from Washington D.C. to Virginia Beach. Thats 459 miles round trip. It gave out on 95 just outside Arlington.
Excellent Test Video Ken and Barkley. Thank You.
Good thing he removed the propellers or else that drone would have activated return to home and lifted that vehicle up in the air
Uhh this isn’t accurate, the car must have interfered. My cousin flew his over the Indian Ocean and it went like 27 miles.
🤣
That car is definitely holding it back from crossing the Indian Ocean.
Seriously though 3km with stock antennas, at ground level is great! Surprisingly good honestly.
No way that is true!!!
You chat some shit bruv 27 miles my arse 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The submarine got in its way
Now I know how far my drone can go riding on top of a car! What great and useful information.
Glad it was helpful!
I have several Avatas. I've flown mine right at 2 miles away while sitting on my back porch. (video to prove it).
This was over trees, water towers etc at about 1,500ft
On return, it died about 1/10th of a mile from my house. Had to drive and pick it up.
I guess I could have flown it farther if I had more battery.
It's a good thing that Barkley didn't make a sharp turn to the left (yaw to the left) or his car might have dove right into the ground! 😉
Hahahaha
THANKS KEN! stay awesome! youre an inspiration!
Ken, my Avata was giving me short range after an update and I noticed that when the video started on mine it was never higher than 30mbps, which I see is the same on yours at the opening of the video. I added the "fcc" file on my goggle sd card and it was now back up to 50mpbs and my range was as normal. Not sure what happened but it seems like my FCC USA version got knocked to a different region during an update. Just curious if you noticed that before with yours.
It looks like the vehicle was slowly turning on the highway right before you lost the signal? Would the turn blocks the direct line of sight to the drone and interrupt the signal?
So you were just shy of 2miles, but I wonder if there would be a difference if the drone was actually flying. Not knowing where the drone antenna is, but if it's on the bottom of the drone then yes, reduced range because of the light bar and vehicle would be a problem
Good test again Ken
How far away can you take off from
Excellent video Ken and some wonderful impressions of the naysayers, lol.
Ken. Can you do the same test with the motion controller? My Avata only gets about 1200ft.
does the altitude affect the total distance it can remain connected?
I recall the mini models and the bigger mavics usually have epic range with the caveat of needing to be rather high up?
It definitely gets you out of ground clutter.
glad i found you chanel! cheers m8!
Good one Ken, could the battery last long enough to get out that far and back. Just curious
Yep, it's good for 12-20 mins depending on how you push it
@@Fly_High_FPV Thanks DAve
Great job I think your measuringDistance is right on the money
I would like to get a vest like Ken has. I am a hobby pilot so I won't want to get one that says that I am licensed. I have taken the safety test and have passed them, no problem.
Any suggestions?
Link in the description
I took my avata 2 to 14000 feet yesteday and still had 12% battery left when coming back. I think 20 000 feet is possibl with it in perfect conditions.
Hey man, no disrespect. You shouldn't be flying that high with any drone. You run the risk of interfering with local air traffic at that height...very sketchy and technically it's against federal law to be above 400 meters in a lot of places.
Be safe out there!
@@Lolsmokeshowlol I live at 7000 feet
I have achieved 4km range (13000ft) in open field with CE Mode. But i had to abort because i was running out of battery and emergency landed short of my homepoint.
Not very good test in my opinion. Usually you’re flying up higher with drones. Not a few feet off the ground. You’ll have much better signal and range if you’re higher up.
Why not test it and fly it? If the signal starts to cut out, you can do the RTH and it will fly back.
You should test “launching” the drone while its strapped on the car/roof. Then just drive with both the drone and controller with you to see how far it’ll show the drone is away from you before the battery dies or the home location updates as you move with everything
Where do you access flight logs on the Avata? Are they stored in the goggles?
Usually dji stores logs on board the drone and/or on the phone
@@SkeezyFPV Definitely want to avoid Karen RID updates!
It was just on the ground though right, so in the air it would definitely be longer?
No. Maybe without trees though.
@@KenHeron but if you lose signal the first thing they tell you always is to climb?
Altitude would definately get you a lot more range. A lot. Trees are kinda hard to send a signal through. Long rangers know whats up.
@@fededabz agree 100%
@@KenHeron Drones operate primarily in the UHF frequency band - same as cell phones and digital TV. Unlike HF and VHF, the UHF band is influenced minimally by trees/structures. K4QEP.
Who was piloting the self driving car?
Elon Musk
Where can I get one of those vests?
amzn.to/3FvAzBW
I like the DO NOT DISTURB LMAO
Did you have the motor spinning because you're in low power mode until you turn the motors on like when you take off
We did
@@KenHeron 👍👍thanx for thr responce!
You bet
ferfeito!! parabens pelo teste!
Good thing you took the props off. It might have made the car crash when it went into "return to home " mode.
🤣🤣🤣
Possibly the only legal range test I’ve seen on RUclips! But the results might be different if the drone was at a normal flying altitude that would improve its line of sight thus improve the radio signal between the drone and the controller. Try the range test from a paramotor That in the right conditions could carry the drone at a higher altitude or meet the visual site requirement. Might be wacky too!
If you had taken off and flown... say, some 100 or 150 meters high, you could have got further...
5:25 Barkley is an honest fellow 😂👍
dude you would get MUCH BETTER RANGE if you were like 200 feet in the air not on a car
worst range test ever
So - if this is 'Line-of-Sight' connectivity, this is pretty darn good! Imagine if you tested at 400' AGL.
Hi I recently crashed my phantom 3 pro and I was wondering what I should do since it is discontinued. It was charged and just fell out of the air randomly. Please help
Keep going brother
Welll... you are just above the ground. The drone in air about 200 feet will make a difference. I'm a ham so you learn that.
Rodney Dangerfield was also a ham. 🤣
Agree with this. I think the most restricting factor being the altitude although I bet you could get more distance in a boat going over water. I think an important point about this is that a true distance test would likely be an FAA violation even if they removed the LOS limit. To get the maximum range, you would likely need to increase the altitude too much.
Unobstructed line of (radio) sight. Agreed. We work satellites with Walkie talkies. de n5vwn
Great test, but I wonder how much further you may get if it was say 300 feet up. 12,000 Feet on a relatively flat surface is really good.
Love it, always informative and entertaining!
Speaking of flying ranges...anyone kno what Id need to get my Avata to maintain good transmission between drone and goggles 2 or its Motion Controller, when flying through thick trees, beyond the 150 or 200 meter range [on my own rural lands]? That range is where transmission weakens severly, the HD bars go 1 and then red, and vision is lost or very delayed and confused. We have "Wifi Range Extenders" for our internet range, is there some similar device i could rig for the Avata and its goggles 2? I need to go to about 350 yards thru trees for my purposes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
where are you located?
@@prone1548 USA. Thru Evergreens & Birch.
@@rw4669 for a second there I thought you had called me a bitch, and was wondering why I bothered commenting on RUclips again haha. The issue here is most likely the radio receiver and controller (Dji controller 2) since the O3 Air Unit should be rated for up to 10 km. There are infact extenders you can get for the controller (I believe a commonly used one is from Yagi) but the downside is that it will increase range in one direction at the expense of the range around (so your controller needs to be facing the drone). Another option is buying another RTF drone with ELRS and an ELRS controller but this would set you back 400 to 600 dollars (assuming you DON'T have the Integra goggles, otherwise it will be more). Last option you could try is starting your flight from a higher point, like your roof. It could make the difference for the extra 100 meters.
@@prone1548 thanx!
Where did you get the vest with the FAA text on it?
amzn.to/3FvAzBW
@@KenHeron Out of stock, darn it!
Found an alternate vendor :) - Thanks Ken.
So can you not fly bvlos with a spotter anymore @KenHeron?
Where did you get that FAA 107 vest Ken? I need one to keep the Karens off my back
amzn.to/3FvAzBW
Impressive!
Great test ken . Love Barkley 👊🏻😂
Is this with or without the “FAA hack”? I don’t know what you mean by the “FCC version”.
The American version with higher power
@@KenHeron Hi. I'm in the US so I should have that version. But before, when I switched to manually picking the transmission mode, I had only once choice of channels at 40MHz. After I did the zero file hack, now I have three. I did this back in September and I've not been out recently so things may have changed. Before the hack, I could barely get a half mile away at 400 ft (not 100% clear line of sight). After the hack, I could get 6000 ft.
The lower you go the worst signal gets i was going to try this myself but with out height its inaccurate. Its best to fly it normal. And have someone drive under the drone
How hilarious it would have been if Ken mounted the drone on a gimbal to the roof of his car like Google maps has, and sent it down the highway. That would have been amazing
If your kids won’t take a nap are they guilty of resisting a rest?
He asked the guy from Kentucky if he had any ID! The guy said about what!
but it wasn't flying, dont you think higher altitude would have given it better range?
Not really
Next video. Duck tape drone to airplane and test distance with no ground obstruction.
The Avata has very impressive range. And great legal range testing. Great video Ken, and thanks for sharing.
Very cool Ken. Love your drone distance tests.
Well he did do the test that maybe 25 above the homepointe so it could be accurate from that low of a height. I'm sure if he was up higher he probably would have got better range better range, which is why I wonder why he just didn't do a range test like that but I guess because he lives in an area where he would get in trouble
I was in my car over the Indian ocean and my cousin said where are we.
Water does amplify or reflect signal, metal vehicle would reduce the range
A lot better than they are getting in Europe, apparently.
In Canada it's 12 hours bottle to throttle and 30 DAYS for weed!
😅😅😅 maybe put the drone up to check for a field of greeens!!..
buh and bye harvest!! 👋😁🤙
Thank goodness the Earth is flat or this would have never worked!
I was gonna try doing a range test like this a while ago. Thanks for the results Ken! 👍👍
Always entertaining mate. Smash that 👍 guys!!!!
I don't know y I'm so drawn to your channel!!! It's such an escape from the everyday hustle this is the first hobby where it actually feels like your part of a family 👪 my real family hated drones and were eaten by sharks 🦈 in the north pacific so my drone family means a lot lol
Lol RIP fleshy fam, long live Carbon Fiber Gang
@@Fly_High_FPV lmao
Your family must have been the spotters for the range test huh?
R.I.P sharkbait fam! 😬😕😪😁😋
how far was the range tho?? 🤔💯🤙😁
@@walleyworld lmao a little further then bots last video about 12kil. Back and fourth hahahaha
I saw a video were the avata got to 9.200 ft but run out of battery in the returning !
Go ahead and make fun of my voice. ;-) but you should get a little more range if you are high up in the air. Also, keep in mind that the Avata is made to fly close to the ground. I am assuming that you get less range if you are flying with the motion controller.
stand on top of a mountain then re do the test
If you go over 100 mph do the police and FAA come after you?
If your drone can go over 100mph, no the faa won’t care unless you are being reckless and endangering things/people. Of course only if they find out. But if you are being responsible going 100mph with an fpv they won’t care.
@@oxyoverh No there's a speed limit for drones.
@@maddercat there are places where you can have fun with racing drones. I’m pretty sure out in public there is a set speed limit of 100 mph but like just don’t post videos going that fast? Lol police aren’t going to come to your door btw. If your given a violation, all of it is usually handled over the phone. Its pretty hard for an faa agent to know if your staying under the speed limit if there is no footage with a drone speedometer.
Might go farther up in the air but they keep outlawing any way we figure out to test that. Had my Air 2 out (*^*&%( ft once with no issues.
You should be able to increase your power so you can go further. Was that at 25 mill.
FCC has the higest power output. WIth CE it would only go 500m before it loses signal.
How is it an accurate test if youre not testing your signal as well as the distance you can travel on 1 battery at drone speeds not car speed. You did a signal test not a range test
Hi, very interesting this way of doing things, even very intelligent 👍❤❤❤
I smell weed 😎
Great way to test and get the drone back without any mishaps. Impressive range for a cinewhoop drone, translating to good penetration for the drones intended purpose of proximity flying. I love it, you got two thumbs up from me !... I am curious if the poor little drone was trying to return to home when the signal was lost, but found it self strapped to a huge metal beast moving at ludicrous speeds !, It must have been terrified for a bit ! lol ;-) ( Maybe for the next test recruit Tucker Got and get him to strap it to his helmet while flying his para motor, that would be a viral video !)
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long range wackro 😂
I just got this drone and it only flies half a mile before the video cuts out. This happens when i am in direct line of sight of the drone and nothing in the way. Anybody knows why i am not getting the extra range like this guy did?
I flow over 3km many times in different places here in Europe in a direct line of sight, and its then when the signal starts to get weaker. Also I have heard and read others flying over this mark. Did you updated it? Also check your settings on goggles where you can change and adjust the maximum height and distance
@@aigidiskeI also lose my HD signal when I go over 200 meters with my drone in clear line of sight. The HD signal literally goes away all at once. Very annoying………!
@@P_M21
That's just CE mode in a European country. Unlock FCC.
@@Bollibompa thanks
Why not do an actual flight test ? ..why involve a car at all ?
ken go fly walksnail
I have the original goggles ya know the bulky ones 😂 anyways what range do those have and it's in meters I 🤔 ugh 😫. Help please!
Inaccurate test
Next time test it on the sea