So happy for you. You trained so hard and have such an amazing attitude to marathon training. You got unlucky with some illness but still found a way to get to the start line fit and ready to take a shot at it. A fantastic execution in the race. You had me nervous on the tracker but that finishing speed was never in doubt right? 😂. Amazing support from Sue throughout the block and the race. You’re a great team. Congratulations again and it was a pleasure being part of the journey.
Many thanks Matt - been great to do what I was told as it were from both of you although Sue might argue I rarely fully listen to her :) Yeah I imagine my slight fade at the 30K and 35K points must have had the app watchers thinking I was going to just miss it but you telling me to stay positive played on my mind and also I thought I don't really like to run marathons too often (6 in 19 years since my 1st one) so the thought of going through this again soon after for just a few seconds perhaps helped as well. In hindsight there was one long run where you got me to pick the pace up for the last 10K. These things have a reason don't they...
Matt - You are the key man that made the difference - truly . As Tim has said below he never listens to me ( about anything ! ) but esp about resting when injured and NOT running in the dark ( worthy of note is that he has previously landed himself in ITU and had a near death experience from running in the dark ! ) But he has always listened to you consistently - and indeed it showed . I remain so very very relieved he achieved his target . Thank you again Matt - for everything xxx
Tim - phenomenal, I have no words! I am so chuffed for you and for Sue, she was super support out there! And the way you finished is insane, definitely dug into that track speed, inspiring stuff!
Thanks! Hopefully shows us UK 13 beanpoles can still do it :) I hopefully touched your marathon pace these days at the end so very much looking forward to seeing if you can nail one. You seem to be doing all the right things by working through your previous issues on nutrition. I decided to go for 5 Maurten gels this time. 3 normal, 2 CAF alternating and about every 30-35 mins. I had a fairly normal breakfast about 90 mins before race start with toast, orange juice and coffee and time to lighten the load as it were before setting off to the line which was about 10-15 mins walk/jog away. I took my last gel pretty much at the time I decided to roll the last dice about 5K out.
I can't really classify myself as a RUclipsr yet (with only 50 subscribers 😂) but if you'd like, you can see the race from my perspective on my channel 😅
I never really write comments but this achievement is exceptional. Well done! Running brings out true emotions not just for the runner but those supporting them as well. Great job, great attitude and humble. 👏 👏
I feel we all need it! Miles off my PB of course but think have finally realised need to let those go and see if can get the most of what got left these days!
@@TimGrose I didn't take running up until my late 30s, having smoked for much of my teenage years and all of my 20s, so I have to beat my current PB of 3:01:02 to get that sweet, sweet first sub-3. It's great to see that it can still be done in principle!
Tim, I am 56 and I ran my last marathon in 2:33 when I was 27. I run 2 or 3 times a week, not much faster than 5mn per km. Your performance is amazing and it shall build a great inspiration for many 'older runners'.
Ah ironic we are same age and have same PB although I did mine at 38 as was an 800/1500 runner until just before. Think in a way it helps to know you have been able to run faster but equally sometimes more frustrating that no longer can. I guess though this one still showed that I can still put the work in and do a time that at least I am satisfied with although of course wish could better which is probably why I keep going!
That is an absolutely phenomenal achievement! Massive congratulations Tim, having run multiple marathons myself at the 3:40 point I fully appreciate the effort that would have taken 👏🏻 A real inspiration to the running community and I hope the recovery goes well
Thanks! It does seem all consuming at times and a certain frustration my legs don't go as fast these days but this time I think I got everything out and kind of lucky that was just inside a sub 3. Have you got a marathon coming up? If so hope gave some inspiration for that.
Will watch this all the way later. I had you on the tracker but had to leave at 15k for my own Longrun! You were already cutting it close at that point. Was thinking about you during my run and was so happy when I got back and saw you squeezed right under 3!😊 Honest work and proper training pays off.
Yeah I felt that had to basically just get on with this so selected my "favourite" shoes from 2019 and figured any real improvement these days is no longer by "magic" shoes but things like 3 hour runs in the rain when after 5 mins would rather be indoors. Which marathon is next for you?
@@TimGrose Hannover in a bit more than 4 weeks! Hoping for a sub 2:40 but it will be very close. I' m looking to get the Next% 3 when it releases early March and run in that one or the Alphafly 2... But yeah, like you said, the shoes are not a magic wand and won't save you when things go badly and definitely not a substitute for proper training.
I'm very late with my comment but a huge congrats to you Tim on such a great run! Superb stuff! To run sub 3 at 56 yrs old. Wow! Just Wow! That's something to be proud of and thank you for vlogging your training leading up to the event.
Thanks for very much. Think will be running with the memory of this one for a good while yet. Glad don’t need to try and run another marathon for a good while yet too. Probably some shorter stuff through the summer.
Fantastic achievement, but the best thing was you saying that it almost felt like a PB. Renewing the joy of running without defining yourself against what you could do when you were young seems like an important topic for those of us who are getting on in years.
Yeah it is largely why I have lots of "little challenges" now like the odd Strava CR attempt (if pick an obscure one these days!), running lots of different streets (which isn't performance dependent) and looking at my times by age graded as well as actual. Perhaps I should do a deeper dive into my training for marathons over the years. Got to find some motivation as it were and often these days my goal is to at least avoiding doing a personal worst not a PB. I did achieve that too as my last marathon was 3:09 in London 2021.
Thanks! I now need to do what am told for a while :) Any marathon thoughts yourself? Your Power of 10 is "sort of" like mine - lots of 800s and 1500s albeit lot quicker. In those days I thought 10 miles was a truly long run.
WOWWWWW!!!!!!! TIM!!!!!!!!! That is absolutely phenomenal!!!! What an inspiration you are to us all!!!! So great to hear Sue there supporting you and sooooo proud of you!!! Bloody WELL DONE!!!!!!!! 💪🏻🏃♂💪🏻
Really pleased for you Tim. Enjoyed the series and love your videos in general. Look forward to seeing what you do next. If you're going to be back running by mid March I'm pacing the 7.30 pace group at the Kingston Spring Race Day, I know that's not too far from you as I see Esher Station is marked on the map and Esher gets lots of mentions in your videos so be great to see you there if you fancy a plod about!
Ah yes Esher station is about a 2 mile run from me. TBH I haven't got any racing plans yet but probably some shorter stuff after a bit of a rest. What distance is that Kingston one?
Thanks! Kind of ironic after testing all the “super” shoes in recent years, I still prefer the OG Vaporfly NEXT% that came out in 2019 and which I have one hardly used pair left which used here. Wonder if the 3 will win me over.
Tim, can’t thank you enough for these videos. Love the honesty and realism and lack of positivity for its own sake - which makes it even better that you achieved what you wanted ✌🏻😁
Thanks appreciate that. I guess for me RUclips is just a bit of a hobby not a lifestyle choice or "job" so hope it comes over as me just me without any show as it were.
Huge congratulations, what a fantastic result and the best support from Sue, it was really heart-warming to hear/see her be so invested. I hope you're recovering well!
Thank you - I just could not bear it if Tim was 10 secs over and I could have done anything to help !! Matt has been key though .........I am truly just the bag carrying half of this duo !!
Thanks! I think if I had been what 10 secs over I would have been "miserable" for weeks if not months even if would actually have been a decent run compared to my last one which was 3:09. These time targets can become bad as well as motivating as I did get rather nervous and Sue had to keep my spirits up but a 2 just sounds so much better!
Congrats Tim. I am 57. Wanted sub 3 in Berlin 2021 but weather was a bit hot. Did a 3:09 in Cali 2022 but was recovering from an Ironman. Sub 3 seems formidable but you’ve inspired me. Thank you for sharing this.
If it helps, I also did 3:09 in my previous marathon (London 2021) and had sort of the opposite "excuse" in that had been focusing on 5K and under races and was well short of the necessary work which I fortunately rectified this time. Sounds like you would have a good chance of a sub 3 if focused on it which I realised was my only hope these days.
Congratulations Tim! What an amazing back half! Superhuman strength and speed at the end there.... Your track background was shining through! Hats off to Sue for all the support and great footage too! This is real inspiration! Keep pushing my friend!
Thanks - thought this might give you some inspiration for your marathon which can't be long now. Look forward to seeing how you are going in your next video. I do think the "speed" at the end is more related to the 3 hour runs I did and the other long MP sessions as certainly some of those were designed to sort of replicate keeping going on rather tired legs.
Brilliant result, I've just started running for a couple of years and done my first half marathon last year 2 weeks before my 50th. I plan to do my first marathon this year and it's great to see you doing these amazing times it's given me the belief I can complete a marathon 👍 keep up the great work and video content.
Thanks! I did another video a while back on how long you can improve and it is much more related to the number of years you have been running than your age so good luck!
@@TimGrose yeah, I get that! Not that I've filmed many races nor have that much running race experience, but when you're on the rivet, it feels like any distraction will throw you off. Bit easier in an ultra when you can have a chat and smash down a bag of doritos. 😊
Thanks! It is actually only my 6th marathon and took me 19 years to do them. I have entered several others over the years but largely through injury never made it to the line. Always then think getting to the line is a good part of the marathon challenge.
@@TimGrose Like you said, this distance is something special. I have done a few more than you but not at your pace! Enjoy the after the marathon calmness before your next race. All the best!
Fantastic Tim. So pleased for you. Epic finish. Did Seville myself last year as a 58 year old. Started in 8 degrees (still too warm for me) and managed to hang on for a 2:57 crossing the finishing line in 26 degrees. 🥵. Keep up the inspirational work🙌.
Ah I have got to keep going to keep with you! Sue asked me if I thought I could go sub 3 at 60. At the moment that looks a very tough ask with 4 years to go. You must have a decent chance there. I literally went back 3 mins here from Seville 3 years ago so the trajectory is against me with unless I can effectively "improve". At the moment I kind of felt that was about as well as I could have run all things considered but us runners all cling on to some hope don't we. It wasn't too bad on the weather this year or indeed 2020. It was largely cloudy this time and I think it got to about 18 deg at the end. In a way, I prefer a slightly warmer temperature than back in the UK as on some runs in the training block I just felt a little cold and although have taken to wearing arm warmers back home, I still like to wear half tights. Are you doing a marathon soon?
@@TimGrose i think you could definitely do it🤞. I picked up an injury. Nerve damage in leg, back in late summer so was a spectator at Berlin. Had a good for age (45-59 years is a sub 2:55🙄 - which must be the toughest at of any of the majors!). I think consistency of running is the key. Started running again just before Christmas. Run to feel. No watch. No recording of effort planned until end of March. Then i'm aiming to go back to Berlin and run it this time🤞.
Hi Tim! congratulations, sub 3 very great!! we are the same age and thank you for your motivation and teachings. On the other hand, you know the brand of the shorts that they show in minute 27 of the video, thank you very much!!!
Thanks - good to hear from fellow 56 year old runners! The green Nike trail ones Gary wore seem to be these www.nike.com/gb/t/trail-dri-fit-lava-loops-1-2-length-trail-running-tights-vMM4HB I take an M in Nike so will need them elsewhere.
Amazing running Tim, looks like you did everything spot on according to plan, congrats, I had a 10k race on the 19th Feb was aiming for sub 40min did it in 40:11 so close but yet so far, haha keep up the good work 😀🥖🍀🙏🍞👣🏃🏽♂️🥳
Thanks - not quite the plan to have to "sprint" in but glad I could find something. Ah good the race went ahead after all the weather problems. Hope things are OK there now? Hopefully you can have another go soon.
@@TimGrose yeah the marathon series you did on RUclips is a good reference for your own training & good for anyone my age group 50s or any age group really to learn some sub 3 hour training tips, thanks Tim, 👍🏼✅🍀🙏🌲🥳
I can't recall a finish like that where a runner can find an extra 10-15 seconds per mile in the last 5k through sheer will power. Amazing mental and physical fortitude.
Maybe I wasn't trying hard enough earlier :) although TBH I felt I was going as fast as I dared and I had really wanted to do 1:29 something at the HM (although 1:30:00 was close!) so if anything I was struggling a bit even back then. I do find the marathon a big mental game as well. The pace is such that it "sort of" feels comfortable but usually the legs just go. I found that in 2021 when I had not prepared properly - aerobically wasn't too bad but the legs were not used to running that long which is at least something addressed this time with at least 3 runs at 3 hours and few others not much less and also some 15+ mile MP sessions which are long runs in themselves but do not really feel that way. I think perhaps there is an element that my now MP isn't that "fast" and I am plenty capable of physically running a lot faster but in recent years I found pushing to the max a lot "harder" than maybe in my younger track days when every race was basically pretty much all out and indeed needing big finishes. So yeah I think my take here is the long time on feet runs prepare you to try and make the distance as it were and if I go past LT in sight of the finish well far better than after a few miles at the start of the race when certainly you have nowhere to go.
@@TimGrose I think the phrase "Don't be greedy" applies here. You kept it absolutely on the line and were 8 seconds happy. In contrast to another Vlog of this race where we seemed to suddenly move the stated target by 2 minutes mid-race. Possible trying to virtually beat a rival shooting for a similar time next week....
Yeah it was a nervous wait to see the official chip time. I had myself at 2:59:55 but I was not totally sure that I started/stopped the watch exactly right as it were.
Thanks. Yeah was thinking it might be of interest to some to say compare my training for my marathons over the years. I did a few videos on this or Seville last time in 2020 but doubt many saw them as was only getting into videos back then.
Definately Tim. Plenty of us late 50 early 60 runners still trying to run around 3 (or under in your case). Plus your analysis of sessions is great and useful. Cheers.
Thanks. Danger of the video becoming longer than the race but Sue took lots of footage with her usual amusing observations so wanted to try and get those bits in as well.
Absolutely fantastic!!!!!! So so stoked for you Tim after what has been a very tricky marathon block. Your are surely one of my favorite RUclipsrs for your down to earth approach. Hats off to you sir!
Many thanks appreciate that. RUclips is more of a personal challenge and hobby for me so hopefully you largely see things as they really are which maybe isn't always the case elsewhere.
@@TimGrose - it is just that it gets a bit like a knitting pattern for non runners -!! But clearly within the PowerPoint is the data … and as the NHS always says : ‘ In God we trust … everyone else must bring data ‘ !!!
Thanks. Funny as I don't really feel "old" but am sure when I was like a 21, a 56 year old would have seemed ancient and if I saw anybody that age running back then I might wonder why they were bothering. Now I feel I still try and beat some of them!
@@TimGrose Tim, it’s a huge accomplishment and very inspiring! Be proud forever. Makes me wonder if this 67 y/o could do a sub 4:00 (but I think I need to PB in the Half Marathon first and it’s doubtful, since the PB was a decade ago)🙋🏻♀️. But the striving leads to thriving don’t you think? So what’s next, after you rest on your laurels?!
@@laurainthehaute918 Sub 4 would be quite something - only 6 UK W65s did it last year and only one was 67 or older. What do you think you can do for a HM at the moment? As it turned my 88 a month ago clearly wasn't the end of the story even if it felt a bit like it. Not quite sure what next. Going to rest until the weekend. Probably 5K as then can also do some track and 10Ks over the summer. That said I always felt I was still better at shorter distances but the training and the marathon itself this time suggests not always the case. Definitely my best race in some time.
Tim, I like what you say about the 88 not being “end of story”. I like to think my rough 2022 is giving me an extra year of running well. I do think I’m past a sub four goal at this point (those UK women are remarkable). Would be thrilled to run another marathon again and get a BQ. But right now I’m rehabbing and building heading into a June half (Grandma’s). No idea where my speed will be. I’m going to start some track workouts in a few weeks (my coach is keeping me patient) and race a 5k mid April. Max so far is 7 miles and hope to do the 68 furlongs (8.5) Friday. Thx for the encouragement. I’m hopeful that the “distance” I’m doing will keep feeling good. 😂 Your performance still inspires. Amazing work!
@@laurainthehaute918 Sounds like making good progress. I think I found this time that the marathon is less about “speed” per se but fatigue resistance. Might do a video on it but things like the 3 hour run I did in the pouring rain throughout were probably worth as much than some of the shorter sessions which don’t really prepare you for the last few miles when legs almost gone. How far off sub 4 were you last time? I might argue I regained 10 mins over my last marathon by actually training for one.
Truly inspirational. I’ll be aiming for my 1st sub 3 in Tokyo in a couple of weeks and as a guy also in his 50’s looking to negative split this is just what I needed to see . Well done again Tim 👍
Ah good luck! I don't know much at all Tokyo but might be worth checking the course and likely wind. For example, I always think a negative split at London is kind of a "bad" idea as you get a few "gift" miles early on and often the end of London is into a headwind.
@@TimGrose Run my best race yet , my official time was 3hrs 58sec . I was convinced it was a sub 3 performance but had to run 26.77 to complete the course ,checking other runners Strava this seemed to be a theme with most of them . For the 26.2 distance my time was 2.5638 so I’d say I come under a new category of bittersweet sub 3 marathoner . I’ll settle for that for now, all the best Tim 👍🏃♂️
@@garethmorgan2383 Ah that's annoying but very good try. I largely made the same mistake of assuming my Garmin was spot on but they always seem to measure a bit long and more so than just not following the exact race line though a few corners as largely same for those with lots of space at the front.
Brilliant stuff Tim! We all knew you would do it mate! Huge kudos buddy! Great battle right to the line. Really inspiring! You put in the hard work mate and it really paid off! 👏👏👏 Loved Sue's analysis of the finish line setup. She was looking very glam in her shades! Well done to the both of you! 😎🤘
Thanks! Not sure I knew myself TBH but I guess that was part of the challenge. I see those Mizunos are meant for sub 2:30 performers so wonder how TRG is getting on :) Yes Sue on top form this time! I know need to do what I am told for a good while LOL!
I was looking at your Garmin race predictions; seeing you fight the flu and didnt think you could pull that one off. So was amazing to see you do it - inspirational and motivating for all of us I would imagine. You got the most out of yourself and thats your personal Olympic Podium. You cant take these moments for granted; we are so blessed to be able to run at all. Well done Team Grose - Sue and Matt. I learned a lot from your collectives success.💥🙌🤜💪
Yeah have to admit was coming to similar conclusions and was wondering if the sub 3 was just a monkey on my back but that goal was what I set out to do and so pleasing to do it - especially when it literally came down to a few seconds.
Absolutely phenomenal Tim! So pleased for you with all the training you put in and the ups and downs of it all. Great achievement. Fully deserved beer after 🍻
Thanks! How long have you been running? I noticed London Good for Age for us M55s is 3:20 but once gets to 60 goes right out to 3:45 and think only 12 M60s did sub 3 last year. So I thought better get a move on as it were before get too old. Have you got a marathon coming up?
Hi Tim, been running for ten years but only got into half/marathons the last three years. I have unfortunately been out with injuries for two months and have just got back building it up the last few weeks, London coming up fast so it may not end well ☹️
@@andrewgibbens1806 Ah just about enough time. I tweaked my hamstring around Xmas before doing Seville in 2020 so last time was a bit like that. Good luck!
Thanks! Any plans in this direction yourself? I see you are still going very well at the shorter stuff and when I thought you are more into cycling these days?
@@TimGrose I started cycling because I just get chronic Achilles issues when I run. I've been able to muster some running recently but I have to be careful because the Achilles flares up. Can't see me following your marathon exploits any time soon, but would love to tbh. Great channel Tim, really enjoy it.
Congrats Tim! What a way to finish! I ran through half-way 1:29:22 but just didn't have enough fitness on the day to go sub-3. Didn't help I got Covid again a few days before which only felt like a head cold. Something about Spain races because that happened to me before Valencia in 2021 which I had to pull out of. I'm sure it must have had some impact. I think I was just not quite back in that shape yet. Really delighted for you, your journey has been very enjoyable to follow! Well deserved, hopefully see you at a race soon!
Ah drat. Sure it had a big impact. Yeah in hindsight maybe I had it too several weeks ago when had to take 4 days off due to what seemed more like "manflu" but I had a tingly feeling even on my shakeout on Saturday and for some days in the interim. I think it was also partly nerves too. In a way put too much pressure on myself to do a sub 3 but probably without the challenge I would likely have set off with a lesser target as even beating 3:09 I did last marathon did not seem overly easy especially when you start to feel a bit unwell. Are you going to have another go at a marathon this year?
@@TimGrose Makes your achievement even more impressive, hopefully you’re recovered from that virus. I’m glad you trusted your training because even bettering your 3:09 would still be very applaudable but you knew you had more in you. That surge at the end, incredible. I’ve got the double of Boston/London, not what I had in mind but couldn’t turn it down. Boston will be the goal race and London, if I’m recovered enough, a race for fun. Both my debuts. Would love to be closer again to sub-3 near Boston, I finished Seville 3:08 so plenty of work still to do. Hopefully you’ve got some more races in the pipeline soon!
It is a good one - done it twice now but going to look elsewhere next time and indeed need to decide if going to go through all that again in the spring for maybe one more sub 3 attempt. Yeah Sue the best but I am best to avoid joining her getting stuck in as it were.
Loved this video and congratulations Tim! Having followed your channel I looked for your time after the race and had the same confusion Sue had before realising you did run sub 3! Sue also inspiring with her carer and supporter role. Well done to you both 👏 👍🏼 🙌
Many thanks! It would have annoyed me back in the day to miss a target on gun time too but this time it sort of added to the sense of personal achievement as literally I need every second these days and of course I have to start further back than when I could line up right behind the pros on say the London Marathon champs start as I did in my PB day in 2005.
@@TimGrose Yes, no doubt about it, definitely a sub 3! Interesting you were, by my maths, 38 when you pb'd. That gives me another a couple of years to reach my peak!
@@fletch9210 Yes I was 38 but I only did my first marathon the year before after many years as an 800/1500 runner. It was also a bit of a turning point in my running. I was OK that 2005 summer and had some OK track races then had a long term injury from the autumn and largely missed the whole of the next year and by the time sorted myself out (had a hernia op in the end) was never as "fast" again and in fact never did another marathon until 2016.
like @Simon , last night (and this morning ) have been waiting on this .. Edd let slip the results last night , So happy for you big fella .. done by the book .. Brilliant and that in my mind is an understatement .. Tim between the data you share and the work you put in you are a huge inspiration Guys like you and Paul 'Therunningshoesguru' are a personal inspiration to me (and you are spot on about the personal coaching , it has got me out of my rut I was in ) ok time to get back to work .🎉
Thanks! That's Paul Freary isn't it. Yeah he has been pretty much a true elite athlete but still, bit like me at a lower level, finding a way to keep motivated when the stopwatch has definitely slowed somewhat.
You're an inspiration Tim for this 53 y.o. runner! I'll be running my 2nd-ever marathon in Boston this April and I believe I'm getting close to sub-3 shape. Seeing you accomplish it at 56 definitely shows me it's possible and gives me a boost of confidence to go for it! Thanks for sharing your journey! I've enjoyed the series.
Thanks. I did have an entry for Boston (the USA one!) last year but to had DNS due to injury. I guess I now have a BQ again. Yeah confidence plays a part but at our age I think staying injury and illness free (or at least mostly) is even more important than it was than when we younger. I would have to think Boston is a slower/harder course than Seville (in appeared to be when looked at it for one of my recent videos) but at least you will have plenty around you. Good luck!
@@TimGrose I wanted to give an update on my Boston marathon. I was fortunate enough to hit my sub-3 goal with a time of 2:58:46. It was a tough race but I ran it about as well as I could possibly hope. My quads started hurting at mile 12 but thankfully they held up until the end. Running down that final stretch on Boylston St. and crossing that finish line was one of the most special moments of my life. Thanks again for this series which gave me that little extra bit of motivation to go for sub-3!
Well done!! I'm also 56, been running for 25 years and hoping to match my ancient 3:45 PB in my 9th marathon as a FV55, next year Inspiring video. Thanks!
Ah good luck. Think if we can largely ignore injury and illness (which I often don't) then we can still sometimes surprise ourselves in the 55s! 3:45 for a woman is I recall equivalent to 3:00 for men for London Good for Age so certainly very fine running if you can.
You did so good Tim! Amazing achievement. Really enjoyed this video might not have gotten first today but I love how you disproved Garmin metrics by a bit of willpower and grit ! What a legend 🙌
Thanks. Yeah that was possibly one of my best ever finishes to a race (especially a long one) although in hindsight I should have been better mindful that my watch splits and actual splits were different and gave me a slightly wrong impression of how I was doing.
Thanks! Yes other than viral issues in the last few weeks, the actual training went pretty much as well as could have hoped. It just seemed like I wasn't quite there but very pleased to effectively surprise myself.
Inspiring stuff. Congrats Tim and thanks for the videos along the way, easily my favourite running channel on RUclips in what is a densely packed field.
Thanks much appreciated. Hope I try and show a slightly different perspective to others being an aging but long term committed runner who now can't shoot for PBs but does it for the love of it and hopefully still tries to do as best as I can.
Brilliant run and report…that is one phenomenally strong finish to the race. Looks like the coaching really had you in a good place physically even though mentally you were worried about your readiness. Well done on the sub 3, a brilliant achievement.
Yeah both Matt & Sue were particularly helpful on the mental side right at the end as I did not feel A1 and wondered if setting off at sub 3 pace was just too ambitious. Somehow I found something at the end.
Thanks! I saw you and Phil York doing "laps" the other day. I ought to at least get round a few in the summer hadn't I. I can at least claim an 800 M55 PB if I do one as not done one yet as an M55. Yes Matt doesn't make a big thing of his coaching in his own videos but it made a massive difference to me this time. I also wanted to make sure the arrangement came over as real and not sure temporary for show as it were.
@@TimGrose My 800 was dire, but with a little help from Phil the 1500 was more satisfying. Looking at your race vlogs Matt's progressive last few miles of the long runs paid massive dividends when you kicked up to 10/5k pace to grab your sub 3 !
So happy for you. You trained so hard and have such an amazing attitude to marathon training. You got unlucky with some illness but still found a way to get to the start line fit and ready to take a shot at it. A fantastic execution in the race. You had me nervous on the tracker but that finishing speed was never in doubt right? 😂. Amazing support from Sue throughout the block and the race. You’re a great team. Congratulations again and it was a pleasure being part of the journey.
Many thanks Matt - been great to do what I was told as it were from both of you although Sue might argue I rarely fully listen to her :) Yeah I imagine my slight fade at the 30K and 35K points must have had the app watchers thinking I was going to just miss it but you telling me to stay positive played on my mind and also I thought I don't really like to run marathons too often (6 in 19 years since my 1st one) so the thought of going through this again soon after for just a few seconds perhaps helped as well. In hindsight there was one long run where you got me to pick the pace up for the last 10K. These things have a reason don't they...
Matt - You are the key man that made the difference - truly . As Tim has said below he never listens to me ( about anything ! ) but esp about resting when injured and NOT running in the dark ( worthy of note is that he has previously landed himself in ITU and had a near death experience from running in the dark ! ) But he has always listened to you consistently - and indeed it showed . I remain so very very relieved he achieved his target . Thank you again Matt - for everything xxx
Tim - phenomenal, I have no words! I am so chuffed for you and for Sue, she was super support out there! And the way you finished is insane, definitely dug into that track speed, inspiring stuff!
Thanks! Hopefully shows us UK 13 beanpoles can still do it :) I hopefully touched your marathon pace these days at the end so very much looking forward to seeing if you can nail one. You seem to be doing all the right things by working through your previous issues on nutrition. I decided to go for 5 Maurten gels this time. 3 normal, 2 CAF alternating and about every 30-35 mins. I had a fairly normal breakfast about 90 mins before race start with toast, orange juice and coffee and time to lighten the load as it were before setting off to the line which was about 10-15 mins walk/jog away. I took my last gel pretty much at the time I decided to roll the last dice about 5K out.
Thank you very much xxx
Hip hip hooray for UK13 beanpoles!
Well done!
@@kofuzi thanks, much appreciated!
The only RUclipsr in Sevilla to reach his goal! Kudos @Tim_Grose !
Nick Bester missed his 2:20 goal
Yeah thanks. OK my goal was a bit more modest than some of my fellow RUclipsrs but I guess it shows you can only really do as best as you can.
@TimGrose Ben and Nick are amazing runners but they are not in their 50s : - 0
Makes your run that much more special Tim, congratulations!
I can't really classify myself as a RUclipsr yet (with only 50 subscribers 😂) but if you'd like, you can see the race from my perspective on my channel 😅
@@quintvanbeek fantastic run Quint, congratulations on your 2:55! And a great race video too!
I never really write comments but this achievement is exceptional. Well done! Running brings out true emotions not just for the runner but those supporting them as well. Great job, great attitude and humble. 👏 👏
Appreciate that and there does something about the marathon that no other race distance brings.
Congratulations Tim! Gives the rest of us old farts hope.
Putting us young pups to shame 😂
I feel we all need it! Miles off my PB of course but think have finally realised need to let those go and see if can get the most of what got left these days!
@@TimGrose I didn't take running up until my late 30s, having smoked for much of my teenage years and all of my 20s, so I have to beat my current PB of 3:01:02 to get that sweet, sweet first sub-3. It's great to see that it can still be done in principle!
Sues extra footage is cracking me up "the leaf blower conundrum"
You don't get this sort of stuff anywhere else do you !!!
Tim, I am 56 and I ran my last marathon in 2:33 when I was 27. I run 2 or 3 times a week, not much faster than 5mn per km. Your performance is amazing and it shall build a great inspiration for many 'older runners'.
Ah ironic we are same age and have same PB although I did mine at 38 as was an 800/1500 runner until just before. Think in a way it helps to know you have been able to run faster but equally sometimes more frustrating that no longer can. I guess though this one still showed that I can still put the work in and do a time that at least I am satisfied with although of course wish could better which is probably why I keep going!
That is an absolutely phenomenal achievement! Massive congratulations Tim, having run multiple marathons myself at the 3:40 point I fully appreciate the effort that would have taken 👏🏻 A real inspiration to the running community and I hope the recovery goes well
Thanks! It does seem all consuming at times and a certain frustration my legs don't go as fast these days but this time I think I got everything out and kind of lucky that was just inside a sub 3. Have you got a marathon coming up? If so hope gave some inspiration for that.
Again, this is a huge deal! Very well done! Congratulations Tim! 👏👏👏 Also hats off to Sue for phenomenal support! 👍
Many thanks! Yes if there was a prize for best supporter, Sue might win!
I’ve been checking RUclips every hour for this since yesterday 😂
Oh bless you Simon ........That is very very lovely of you !
The editing of these videos often feel take longer than the marathon itself so glad was worth it.
Will watch this all the way later. I had you on the tracker but had to leave at 15k for my own Longrun! You were already cutting it close at that point. Was thinking about you during my run and was so happy when I got back and saw you squeezed right under 3!😊
Honest work and proper training pays off.
Yeah I felt that had to basically just get on with this so selected my "favourite" shoes from 2019 and figured any real improvement these days is no longer by "magic" shoes but things like 3 hour runs in the rain when after 5 mins would rather be indoors. Which marathon is next for you?
@@TimGrose Hannover in a bit more than 4 weeks! Hoping for a sub 2:40 but it will be very close. I' m looking to get the Next% 3 when it releases early March and run in that one or the Alphafly 2... But yeah, like you said, the shoes are not a magic wand and won't save you when things go badly and definitely not a substitute for proper training.
I'm very late with my comment but a huge congrats to you Tim on such a great run! Superb stuff! To run sub 3 at 56 yrs old. Wow! Just Wow! That's something to be proud of and thank you for vlogging your training leading up to the event.
Thanks for very much. Think will be running with the memory of this one for a good while yet. Glad don’t need to try and run another marathon for a good while yet too. Probably some shorter stuff through the summer.
Just great running Tim! I’ve really enjoyed this series and delighted you made it in under 3. Look forward to seeing what’s next 👍🏻
Thanks! Think this might be a duplicate but just in case not sure yet - probably some shorter races.
Fantastic achievement, but the best thing was you saying that it almost felt like a PB. Renewing the joy of running without defining yourself against what you could do when you were young seems like an important topic for those of us who are getting on in years.
Yeah it is largely why I have lots of "little challenges" now like the odd Strava CR attempt (if pick an obscure one these days!), running lots of different streets (which isn't performance dependent) and looking at my times by age graded as well as actual. Perhaps I should do a deeper dive into my training for marathons over the years. Got to find some motivation as it were and often these days my goal is to at least avoiding doing a personal worst not a PB. I did achieve that too as my last marathon was 3:09 in London 2021.
Well done Tim amazing work and this was a great series i really enjoyed all of it. and love Sue to what a great support she is. :)
Thank you - I truly was more nervous ( and then relieved ) than Tim was !
Thanks! I now need to do what am told for a while :) Any marathon thoughts yourself? Your Power of 10 is "sort of" like mine - lots of 800s and 1500s albeit lot quicker. In those days I thought 10 miles was a truly long run.
WOWWWWW!!!!!!! TIM!!!!!!!!! That is absolutely phenomenal!!!! What an inspiration you are to us all!!!! So great to hear Sue there supporting you and sooooo proud of you!!! Bloody WELL DONE!!!!!!!! 💪🏻🏃♂💪🏻
That is very kind of you Bev - Thank you !
Many thanks and for your supportive comments in many of my videos now.
Awesome! Such a great achievement and a display of British composure…I’d have been all over the place celebrating it!
Ha ha. I did not have some much energy left after that. I did have my first beers for sometime later though!
Really pleased for you Tim. Enjoyed the series and love your videos in general. Look forward to seeing what you do next. If you're going to be back running by mid March I'm pacing the 7.30 pace group at the Kingston Spring Race Day, I know that's not too far from you as I see Esher Station is marked on the map and Esher gets lots of mentions in your videos so be great to see you there if you fancy a plod about!
Ah yes Esher station is about a 2 mile run from me. TBH I haven't got any racing plans yet but probably some shorter stuff after a bit of a rest. What distance is that Kingston one?
Brilliant, well done Tim!
Thanks! Kind of ironic after testing all the “super” shoes in recent years, I still prefer the OG Vaporfly NEXT% that came out in 2019 and which I have one hardly used pair left which used here. Wonder if the 3 will win me over.
Tim, can’t thank you enough for these videos. Love the honesty and realism and lack of positivity for its own sake - which makes it even better that you achieved what you wanted ✌🏻😁
Thanks appreciate that. I guess for me RUclips is just a bit of a hobby not a lifestyle choice or "job" so hope it comes over as me just me without any show as it were.
Huge congratulations, what a fantastic result and the best support from Sue, it was really heart-warming to hear/see her be so invested. I hope you're recovering well!
Thank you - I just could not bear it if Tim was 10 secs over and I could have done anything to help !! Matt has been key though .........I am truly just the bag carrying half of this duo !!
Thanks! I think if I had been what 10 secs over I would have been "miserable" for weeks if not months even if would actually have been a decent run compared to my last one which was 3:09. These time targets can become bad as well as motivating as I did get rather nervous and Sue had to keep my spirits up but a 2 just sounds so much better!
Congrats Tim. I am 57. Wanted sub 3 in Berlin 2021 but weather was a bit hot. Did a 3:09 in Cali 2022 but was recovering from an Ironman. Sub 3 seems formidable but you’ve inspired me. Thank you for sharing this.
If it helps, I also did 3:09 in my previous marathon (London 2021) and had sort of the opposite "excuse" in that had been focusing on 5K and under races and was well short of the necessary work which I fortunately rectified this time. Sounds like you would have a good chance of a sub 3 if focused on it which I realised was my only hope these days.
Congratulations Tim!!! That’s a killer time!!!
Thanks!
Nice couple, nice story, happy ending. Plenty for the data fans. Good extras. Good layout/edit. 10/10. Bravo. Ok now you gotta catch Nick...
Thanks! I would need a big head start to catch Nick these days :)
What an incredible result . . . Massive congrats. Great video and what a lovely medal and finishing line.
Thanks!
Great effort. All the hard work and obstacles but you still persevered! Congratulations!
Thanks. Few things in last few weeks got me rather nervous but yeah did not give up.
Tim, well done on your sub 3 !!!
Thanks!
Congratulations Tim! What an amazing back half! Superhuman strength and speed at the end there.... Your track background was shining through! Hats off to Sue for all the support and great footage too! This is real inspiration! Keep pushing my friend!
Thanks - thought this might give you some inspiration for your marathon which can't be long now. Look forward to seeing how you are going in your next video. I do think the "speed" at the end is more related to the 3 hour runs I did and the other long MP sessions as certainly some of those were designed to sort of replicate keeping going on rather tired legs.
Brilliant result, I've just started running for a couple of years and done my first half marathon last year 2 weeks before my 50th. I plan to do my first marathon this year and it's great to see you doing these amazing times it's given me the belief I can complete a marathon 👍 keep up the great work and video content.
Thanks! I did another video a while back on how long you can improve and it is much more related to the number of years you have been running than your age so good luck!
@@TimGrose I will definately check it out 👍
Well done, Tim. An amazing achievement! Really highlighted the mental fortitude need at the end of a marathon - kudos to you, sir!
Yeah thanks. In the end I felt I had to concentrate so much my GoPro had to stay in my back pocket for the actual race.
@@TimGrose yeah, I get that! Not that I've filmed many races nor have that much running race experience, but when you're on the rivet, it feels like any distraction will throw you off. Bit easier in an ultra when you can have a chat and smash down a bag of doritos. 😊
Well done Tim! Congratulations for the sub 3 and of course not forget about another marathon completion!
Thanks! It is actually only my 6th marathon and took me 19 years to do them. I have entered several others over the years but largely through injury never made it to the line. Always then think getting to the line is a good part of the marathon challenge.
@@TimGrose Like you said, this distance is something special. I have done a few more than you but not at your pace! Enjoy the after the marathon calmness before your next race. All the best!
So inspirational!! Well done to you and Sue 👏👏👏
Thanks so much!
Fantastic Tim. So pleased for you. Epic finish. Did Seville myself last year as a 58 year old. Started in 8 degrees (still too warm for me) and managed to hang on for a 2:57 crossing the finishing line in 26 degrees. 🥵. Keep up the inspirational work🙌.
Ah I have got to keep going to keep with you! Sue asked me if I thought I could go sub 3 at 60. At the moment that looks a very tough ask with 4 years to go. You must have a decent chance there. I literally went back 3 mins here from Seville 3 years ago so the trajectory is against me with unless I can effectively "improve". At the moment I kind of felt that was about as well as I could have run all things considered but us runners all cling on to some hope don't we. It wasn't too bad on the weather this year or indeed 2020. It was largely cloudy this time and I think it got to about 18 deg at the end. In a way, I prefer a slightly warmer temperature than back in the UK as on some runs in the training block I just felt a little cold and although have taken to wearing arm warmers back home, I still like to wear half tights. Are you doing a marathon soon?
@@TimGrose i think you could definitely do it🤞. I picked up an injury. Nerve damage in leg, back in late summer so was a spectator at Berlin. Had a good for age (45-59 years is a sub 2:55🙄 - which must be the toughest at of any of the majors!). I think consistency of running is the key. Started running again just before Christmas. Run to feel. No watch. No recording of effort planned until end of March. Then i'm aiming to go back to Berlin and run it this time🤞.
Brilliant!!....Made my day! 👍🦾🏃❤
Ah great thanks!
It was exceptional pacing Tim and you even had enough saved to speed up towards the finish. Inspirational tbf, well done.
Thanks! Can't honestly say I had "saved" anything but at least managed to find something.
Hi Tim! congratulations, sub 3 very great!! we are the same age and thank you for your motivation and teachings. On the other hand, you know the brand of the shorts that they show in minute 27 of the video, thank you very much!!!
Thanks - good to hear from fellow 56 year old runners! The green Nike trail ones Gary wore seem to be these www.nike.com/gb/t/trail-dri-fit-lava-loops-1-2-length-trail-running-tights-vMM4HB I take an M in Nike so will need them elsewhere.
Fantastic! Really happy for you 🙂
Many thanks!
Amazing running Tim, looks like you did everything spot on according to plan, congrats, I had a 10k race on the 19th Feb was aiming for sub 40min did it in 40:11 so close but yet so far, haha keep up the good work 😀🥖🍀🙏🍞👣🏃🏽♂️🥳
Thanks - not quite the plan to have to "sprint" in but glad I could find something. Ah good the race went ahead after all the weather problems. Hope things are OK there now? Hopefully you can have another go soon.
@@TimGrose yeah the marathon series you did on RUclips is a good reference for your own training & good for anyone my age group 50s or any age group really to learn some sub 3 hour training tips, thanks Tim, 👍🏼✅🍀🙏🌲🥳
I can't recall a finish like that where a runner can find an extra 10-15 seconds per mile in the last 5k through sheer will power.
Amazing mental and physical fortitude.
Maybe I wasn't trying hard enough earlier :) although TBH I felt I was going as fast as I dared and I had really wanted to do 1:29 something at the HM (although 1:30:00 was close!) so if anything I was struggling a bit even back then. I do find the marathon a big mental game as well. The pace is such that it "sort of" feels comfortable but usually the legs just go. I found that in 2021 when I had not prepared properly - aerobically wasn't too bad but the legs were not used to running that long which is at least something addressed this time with at least 3 runs at 3 hours and few others not much less and also some 15+ mile MP sessions which are long runs in themselves but do not really feel that way. I think perhaps there is an element that my now MP isn't that "fast" and I am plenty capable of physically running a lot faster but in recent years I found pushing to the max a lot "harder" than maybe in my younger track days when every race was basically pretty much all out and indeed needing big finishes. So yeah I think my take here is the long time on feet runs prepare you to try and make the distance as it were and if I go past LT in sight of the finish well far better than after a few miles at the start of the race when certainly you have nowhere to go.
@@TimGrose I think the phrase "Don't be greedy" applies here. You kept it absolutely on the line and were 8 seconds happy. In contrast to another Vlog of this race where we seemed to suddenly move the stated target by 2 minutes mid-race. Possible trying to virtually beat a rival shooting for a similar time next week....
@@tworunningbrooms fair analysis :)
Such a lovely video and inspiring me to step up my racing. 👏👏
Thanks! Hard to believe this was almost a full year ago now.
Wonderful. Great to see!
Many thanks!
Amazing. Well done. I saw the results online at over 3 hours but that was before they adjusted for your start time.
Impressive.
Yeah it was a nervous wait to see the official chip time. I had myself at 2:59:55 but I was not totally sure that I started/stopped the watch exactly right as it were.
Incredible work @Tim... with 2:59:52 !
Thanks!
Fantastic run Tim , negative splits as well , not many of them about. Brilliant video as well as usual. I hope to go close at London in April.
Thanks! Look forward to seeing what you can do now. Hope training is going well?
Amazing Tim, that’s certainly the way to finish a marathon 😁 Enjoyed following, great support from Sue too 👍🏻
Thanks - yeah I was pleased with my finish and Sue was great!
@@TimGrose @pete twigg - Thank you both xxx !!
Congratulations Tim very inspiring. Would be good to see a summary of your training.
Thanks. Yeah was thinking it might be of interest to some to say compare my training for my marathons over the years. I did a few videos on this or Seville last time in 2020 but doubt many saw them as was only getting into videos back then.
Definately Tim. Plenty of us late 50 early 60 runners still trying to run around 3 (or under in your case). Plus your analysis of sessions is great and useful. Cheers.
Great run and great video. Executed perfectly tim
Thanks. Danger of the video becoming longer than the race but Sue took lots of footage with her usual amusing observations so wanted to try and get those bits in as well.
Absolutely fantastic!!!!!! So so stoked for you Tim after what has been a very tricky marathon block. Your are surely one of my favorite RUclipsrs for your down to earth approach. Hats off to you sir!
Many thanks appreciate that. RUclips is more of a personal challenge and hobby for me so hopefully you largely see things as they really are which maybe isn't always the case elsewhere.
Legend mate.. you are an inspiration
Thanks!
Tim - fantastic effort, well done. I’ve been following the training series and so pleased you was under 3.
Many thanks!
Sue’s leaf blower analysis was excellent 😉
Thank you ! - It was truly a tad ridiculous !! ..........and only one wheelchar behind the finish line was a tad dodgy too !!
Am impressed you got that far although, as Sue said to some of her friends, just skip the PowerPoint type sections :)
@@TimGrose - it is just that it gets a bit like a knitting pattern for non runners -!! But clearly within the PowerPoint is the data … and as the NHS always says : ‘ In God we trust … everyone else must bring data ‘ !!!
Fantastic time - hats off to you
Many thanks!
Congratulations! Proud of you.
Many thanks!
Absolutely brilliant achievement Tim!! Inspirational 🎉
Thanks!
Congratulations Tim and this video is a great roundup of your run and the event. Very inspiring!
Many thanks!
Love that. Beat the predictor!! Well done man..amazing stuff!
Thanks. Yeah I had some motivation from seeing if I could do a little better.
well done Tim, great work
Many thanks!
Congrats- Sub 3 is an amazing achievement at any age, let alone beyond 50. Honestly alleviates my aging angst a bit ;-). Thanks, Tim
Thanks. Funny as I don't really feel "old" but am sure when I was like a 21, a 56 year old would have seemed ancient and if I saw anybody that age running back then I might wonder why they were bothering. Now I feel I still try and beat some of them!
@@TimGrose sry didn't mean to imply you're old. But the task would have been easier for you were you still 30.All I meant.
@@axlrosea675 no worries. I guess I am trying to avoid feeling old by keep trying to do things which did come easier in my 30s.
So happy for you! Hard work and pure grit and speed at the finish!🎉And cheers to Sue for her support before, during , and after!❤️
Thanks for your all support in all these videos and yeah I was (and indeed still am) very happy.
@@TimGrose Tim, it’s a huge accomplishment and very inspiring! Be proud forever. Makes me wonder if this 67 y/o could do a sub 4:00 (but I think I need to PB in the Half Marathon first and it’s doubtful, since the PB was a decade ago)🙋🏻♀️. But the striving leads to thriving don’t you think? So what’s next, after you rest on your laurels?!
@@laurainthehaute918 Sub 4 would be quite something - only 6 UK W65s did it last year and only one was 67 or older. What do you think you can do for a HM at the moment? As it turned my 88 a month ago clearly wasn't the end of the story even if it felt a bit like it. Not quite sure what next. Going to rest until the weekend. Probably 5K as then can also do some track and 10Ks over the summer. That said I always felt I was still better at shorter distances but the training and the marathon itself this time suggests not always the case. Definitely my best race in some time.
Tim, I like what you say about the 88 not being “end of story”. I like to think my rough 2022 is giving me an extra year of running well. I do think I’m past a sub four goal at this point (those UK women are remarkable). Would be thrilled to run another marathon again and get a BQ. But right now I’m rehabbing and building heading into a June half (Grandma’s). No idea where my speed will be. I’m going to start some track workouts in a few weeks (my coach is keeping me patient) and race a 5k mid April. Max so far is 7 miles and hope to do the 68 furlongs (8.5) Friday. Thx for the encouragement. I’m hopeful that the “distance” I’m doing will keep feeling good. 😂 Your performance still inspires. Amazing work!
@@laurainthehaute918 Sounds like making good progress. I think I found this time that the marathon is less about “speed” per se but fatigue resistance. Might do a video on it but things like the 3 hour run I did in the pouring rain throughout were probably worth as much than some of the shorter sessions which don’t really prepare you for the last few miles when legs almost gone. How far off sub 4 were you last time? I might argue I regained 10 mins over my last marathon by actually training for one.
What an inspirational video! Thank you!
Thanks!
Well done Tim, top man, Great run, awesome finish! 💪🏼💪🏼
Really enjoyed the series.👍🏻
Thank you! 👍
Thank you for the inspiration, I'm 50+ and am aiming for Sub 3.
Ah thanks and good luck. Which one are you doing next ?
Incredible running and pacing throughout to achieve the time 🙌
Thanks. I had to get a move on at the end didn't I but wasn't too bad.
Absolutely fantastic Tim! Great video review as always. Well done to you both! Amazing paces the last 7km!
Thanks - yeah I was pleased with my finish for sure.
Truly inspirational. I’ll be aiming for my 1st sub 3 in Tokyo in a couple of weeks and as a guy also in his 50’s looking to negative split this is just what I needed to see . Well done again Tim 👍
Ah good luck! I don't know much at all Tokyo but might be worth checking the course and likely wind. For example, I always think a negative split at London is kind of a "bad" idea as you get a few "gift" miles early on and often the end of London is into a headwind.
@@TimGrose Run my best race yet , my official time was 3hrs 58sec . I was convinced it was a sub 3 performance but had to run 26.77 to complete the course ,checking other runners Strava this seemed to be a theme with most of them .
For the 26.2 distance my time was 2.5638 so I’d say I come under a new category of bittersweet sub 3 marathoner . I’ll settle for that for now, all the best Tim 👍🏃♂️
@@garethmorgan2383 Ah that's annoying but very good try. I largely made the same mistake of assuming my Garmin was spot on but they always seem to measure a bit long and more so than just not following the exact race line though a few corners as largely same for those with lots of space at the front.
congrats on your sub 3! Great accomplishment! What a great motivation for us all to keep running!🦾
Thanks. Realise I now need a new running thing to work towards but not sure what yet.
Congratulations Tim you're a huge inspiration! Hope the legs are recovering well. 👏👏👏
Thanks! Legs not too bad but one black toe so going to rest up for a bit.
Brilliant stuff Tim! We all knew you would do it mate! Huge kudos buddy! Great battle right to the line. Really inspiring! You put in the hard work mate and it really paid off! 👏👏👏 Loved Sue's analysis of the finish line setup. She was looking very glam in her shades! Well done to the both of you! 😎🤘
Thank you very much Ben - I did not feel glam i must stress !
Thanks! Not sure I knew myself TBH but I guess that was part of the challenge. I see those Mizunos are meant for sub 2:30 performers so wonder how TRG is getting on :) Yes Sue on top form this time! I know need to do what I am told for a good while LOL!
What a fantastic run Tim - well deserved. Really enjoyed this training block series of videos.
Many thanks!
I was looking at your Garmin race predictions; seeing you fight the flu and didnt think you could pull that one off. So was amazing to see you do it - inspirational and motivating for all of us I would imagine. You got the most out of yourself and thats your personal Olympic Podium. You cant take these moments for granted; we are so blessed to be able to run at all. Well done Team Grose - Sue and Matt. I learned a lot from your collectives success.💥🙌🤜💪
Yeah have to admit was coming to similar conclusions and was wondering if the sub 3 was just a monkey on my back but that goal was what I set out to do and so pleasing to do it - especially when it literally came down to a few seconds.
Wow! Amazing Tim
Thanks!
Absolutely phenomenal Tim! So pleased for you with all the training you put in and the ups and downs of it all. Great achievement. Fully deserved beer after 🍻
Thanks so much! I even had 2 :)
Truly inspirational, I am coming up to 59 and still trying to break 3.15.
You have given me hope.
Thanks! How long have you been running? I noticed London Good for Age for us M55s is 3:20 but once gets to 60 goes right out to 3:45 and think only 12 M60s did sub 3 last year. So I thought better get a move on as it were before get too old. Have you got a marathon coming up?
Hi Tim, been running for ten years but only got into half/marathons the last three years. I have unfortunately been out with injuries for two months and have just got back building it up the last few weeks, London coming up fast so it may not end well ☹️
@@andrewgibbens1806 Ah just about enough time. I tweaked my hamstring around Xmas before doing Seville in 2020 so last time was a bit like that. Good luck!
What an excellent video matey. Well done to you, loved your analysis sitting on the wall in foil blanket. Great stuff.
Thanks! Any plans in this direction yourself? I see you are still going very well at the shorter stuff and when I thought you are more into cycling these days?
@@TimGrose I started cycling because I just get chronic Achilles issues when I run. I've been able to muster some running recently but I have to be careful because the Achilles flares up. Can't see me following your marathon exploits any time soon, but would love to tbh. Great channel Tim, really enjoy it.
The post race thoughts was quite inspirational. Thanks for the awesome series! Still working towards my own sub 3 goal for April.
Every good wish Brian !!
Ah that was Sue's idea to have a little "debrief" and was also a welcome rest as post marathon even a stroll pace is never easy!
Congrats Tim! What a way to finish! I ran through half-way 1:29:22 but just didn't have enough fitness on the day to go sub-3. Didn't help I got Covid again a few days before which only felt like a head cold. Something about Spain races because that happened to me before Valencia in 2021 which I had to pull out of. I'm sure it must have had some impact. I think I was just not quite back in that shape yet. Really delighted for you, your journey has been very enjoyable to follow! Well deserved, hopefully see you at a race soon!
Ah drat. Sure it had a big impact. Yeah in hindsight maybe I had it too several weeks ago when had to take 4 days off due to what seemed more like "manflu" but I had a tingly feeling even on my shakeout on Saturday and for some days in the interim. I think it was also partly nerves too. In a way put too much pressure on myself to do a sub 3 but probably without the challenge I would likely have set off with a lesser target as even beating 3:09 I did last marathon did not seem overly easy especially when you start to feel a bit unwell. Are you going to have another go at a marathon this year?
@@TimGrose Makes your achievement even more impressive, hopefully you’re recovered from that virus. I’m glad you trusted your training because even bettering your 3:09 would still be very applaudable but you knew you had more in you. That surge at the end, incredible. I’ve got the double of Boston/London, not what I had in mind but couldn’t turn it down. Boston will be the goal race and London, if I’m recovered enough, a race for fun. Both my debuts. Would love to be closer again to sub-3 near Boston, I finished Seville 3:08 so plenty of work still to do. Hopefully you’ve got some more races in the pipeline soon!
Congrats
Thanks!
Well done Tim-doing Seville in 2024.
Sue's banter is the best! Can't help but wonder what you were going say about the pre race wine...
It is a good one - done it twice now but going to look elsewhere next time and indeed need to decide if going to go through all that again in the spring for maybe one more sub 3 attempt. Yeah Sue the best but I am best to avoid joining her getting stuck in as it were.
Loved this video and congratulations Tim! Having followed your channel I looked for your time after the race and had the same confusion Sue had before realising you did run sub 3! Sue also inspiring with her carer and supporter role. Well done to you both 👏 👍🏼 🙌
Many thanks! It would have annoyed me back in the day to miss a target on gun time too but this time it sort of added to the sense of personal achievement as literally I need every second these days and of course I have to start further back than when I could line up right behind the pros on say the London Marathon champs start as I did in my PB day in 2005.
@@TimGrose Yes, no doubt about it, definitely a sub 3! Interesting you were, by my maths, 38 when you pb'd. That gives me another a couple of years to reach my peak!
@@fletch9210 Yes I was 38 but I only did my first marathon the year before after many years as an 800/1500 runner. It was also a bit of a turning point in my running. I was OK that 2005 summer and had some OK track races then had a long term injury from the autumn and largely missed the whole of the next year and by the time sorted myself out (had a hernia op in the end) was never as "fast" again and in fact never did another marathon until 2016.
Very well done 👏🏻 sir 👍🏻
Many thanks!
Amazing run, so happy you pulled it off! My favourite running RUclipsr right now :)
Thanks! Better not retire then :)
like @Simon , last night (and this morning ) have been waiting on this .. Edd let slip the results last night , So happy for you big fella .. done by the book .. Brilliant and that in my mind is an understatement .. Tim between the data you share and the work you put in you are a huge inspiration Guys like you and Paul 'Therunningshoesguru' are a personal inspiration to me (and you are spot on about the personal coaching , it has got me out of my rut I was in ) ok time to get back to work .🎉
Thanks! That's Paul Freary isn't it. Yeah he has been pretty much a true elite athlete but still, bit like me at a lower level, finding a way to keep motivated when the stopwatch has definitely slowed somewhat.
Well done Tim phenomenal 👍
Thanks!
You're an inspiration Tim for this 53 y.o. runner! I'll be running my 2nd-ever marathon in Boston this April and I believe I'm getting close to sub-3 shape. Seeing you accomplish it at 56 definitely shows me it's possible and gives me a boost of confidence to go for it! Thanks for sharing your journey! I've enjoyed the series.
Thanks. I did have an entry for Boston (the USA one!) last year but to had DNS due to injury. I guess I now have a BQ again. Yeah confidence plays a part but at our age I think staying injury and illness free (or at least mostly) is even more important than it was than when we younger. I would have to think Boston is a slower/harder course than Seville (in appeared to be when looked at it for one of my recent videos) but at least you will have plenty around you. Good luck!
@@TimGrose I wanted to give an update on my Boston marathon. I was fortunate enough to hit my sub-3 goal with a time of 2:58:46. It was a tough race but I ran it about as well as I could possibly hope. My quads started hurting at mile 12 but thankfully they held up until the end. Running down that final stretch on Boylston St. and crossing that finish line was one of the most special moments of my life. Thanks again for this series which gave me that little extra bit of motivation to go for sub-3!
@@schoukri ah very well done! Motivation for me to go a bit faster then :)
Big congrats!! It's so impressive, especially the last few miles.
Thanks. Yeah a few years ago when not very fit my last 5K to the line of 20:22 I would been happy with in a parkrun.
Well done!! I'm also 56, been running for 25 years and hoping to match my ancient 3:45 PB in my 9th marathon as a FV55, next year Inspiring video. Thanks!
Ah good luck. Think if we can largely ignore injury and illness (which I often don't) then we can still sometimes surprise ourselves in the 55s! 3:45 for a woman is I recall equivalent to 3:00 for men for London Good for Age so certainly very fine running if you can.
You did so good Tim! Amazing achievement. Really enjoyed this video might not have gotten first today but I love how you disproved Garmin metrics by a bit of willpower and grit ! What a legend 🙌
It truly was grit .......I am still amazed ( and I still feel exhausted !! - Tim meanwhile looks as though he ran a park run !
@Sue Grose keep making the bonus material Sue. I nearly peed myself laughing with your amazing commentary about the leaf blowers.
Yeah perhaps you don't want the watches to be too accurate sometimes else you might think why bother to run at all!
Well done Tim, fantastic result
Thanks!
Nice work! Well done! Fab video 😀🙌🏼
Thank you! 😀
congrats, Tim, that's huge!
Many thanks!
Inspirational stuff Tim. Well earned. Your pacing was excellent and the split for the last 5k wow!
Thanks. Yeah that was possibly one of my best ever finishes to a race (especially a long one) although in hindsight I should have been better mindful that my watch splits and actual splits were different and gave me a slightly wrong impression of how I was doing.
So pleased for you .I love it when you see someone train so hard and the achieve their goal 🏃♂️🏃♂️💪💪
Thanks! Yes other than viral issues in the last few weeks, the actual training went pretty much as well as could have hoped. It just seemed like I wasn't quite there but very pleased to effectively surprise myself.
Awesome matey , I can feel your high in Australia
I met Sue on a plane back from there - Sydney in fact! She lived there for a few years but I was just visiting. Which part are you from?
@@TimGrose Perth.
Born in uk ( Yorkshire)
Lived in Oz since 1989 :)
Great pacing and what an amazing race! Well done, so happy for you, Tim!
Many thanks and also for your encouraging comments in this series.
Inspiring stuff. Congrats Tim and thanks for the videos along the way, easily my favourite running channel on RUclips in what is a densely packed field.
Thanks much appreciated. Hope I try and show a slightly different perspective to others being an aging but long term committed runner who now can't shoot for PBs but does it for the love of it and hopefully still tries to do as best as I can.
You are an inspiration Tim...In it for the long run!
Thanks. Just remembered it is now 40 years since I started training "seriously" and joined a running club - what is now Ealing, Southall & Middx AC.
Brilliant run and report…that is one phenomenally strong finish to the race. Looks like the coaching really had you in a good place physically even though mentally you were worried about your readiness. Well done on the sub 3, a brilliant achievement.
Yeah both Matt & Sue were particularly helpful on the mental side right at the end as I did not feel A1 and wondered if setting off at sub 3 pace was just too ambitious. Somehow I found something at the end.
Congratulations Tim!!!!
Thanks!
Big congratulations Tim. You worked hard for this . Shout out to the Welsh Runner for your epic training regime 🎉
Thanks! I saw you and Phil York doing "laps" the other day. I ought to at least get round a few in the summer hadn't I. I can at least claim an 800 M55 PB if I do one as not done one yet as an M55. Yes Matt doesn't make a big thing of his coaching in his own videos but it made a massive difference to me this time. I also wanted to make sure the arrangement came over as real and not sure temporary for show as it were.
@@TimGrose My 800 was dire, but with a little help from Phil the 1500 was more satisfying.
Looking at your race vlogs Matt's progressive last few miles of the long runs paid massive dividends when you kicked up to 10/5k pace to grab your sub 3 !
Well done Tim, awesome effort
Thanks!