Ok, so 4 things 1.) return to 0 is passive GER doesn't need to be active for return to 0 to trigger. 2.) return to 0 didn't cancel Pucci because he was reseting the universe which in no way harms Giorno. 3.) Return to 0 can return ANYTHING to 0 even someone's will as stated by the guidebooks I.E Gojo's will to keep infinity active. 4.) GER is literally immeasurable as show. By all it's stats being 0 TLDR: Gojo looses because his will to do anything gets reverted to 0 & he physically can't be blitzed because all of his abilities are immeasurable.
RTZ didn't affected Pucci because... GER wasn't here. He could have RTZ the universe's reset, but, GER wasn't here. Giorno took back the arrow from GER and when a Requiem have his requiem arrow being taken by his owner, he turns back to his previous version, it's not a definitive version
@@hiro4379 to quote Trish "the arrow is forever Giorno's," & we also know that Even if he did somehow take back the arrow GER would remain because of Chariot requiem.
@@dr.hollow5639 Trish said this in a sense of belonging. The arrow didn't saw Diavolo as worthy, and, the arrow can't belong to Polnareff since he's a turtle. Chariot Requiem turned back to Silver Chariot when Polnareff took back the requiem arrow. A requiem stand goes back to his usual state when his owner takes back the arrow. It's not stated, but, it's shown.
@@hiro4379no, we can see silver chariot R dropping the arrow and still be in his requiem form, so a requiem is forever, a stand only needs to be hurt by the arrow once to be requiem forever
@@giovanniciri3859 that's where you didn't read what I said. Yes, when Chariot lost his requiem arrow he was still Requiem, what I said is, that it has to be the OWNER of the stand who has to take back the arrow like we saw it in the flashback. (If you ask me, no, Polnareff in the turtle cannot take back the arrow, bc, SCR doesn't see him as it's owner anymore/Turlenareff doesn't have the power anymore to control SCR)
I think you misinterpreted RTZ. RTZ doesn't reverse attacks it makes it so the attack will never actually happen. Even if HP was like Go Beyond (HP doesn't actually erase things and can be tanked as shown by Sukuna. And nowhere is it shown that HP transcends logic), Gojo will never activate it, as soon as he intends to do it, his willppwer will be RTZd. He will sit there doing nothing.
Great video, however there are a lot of errors, especially with GER’s side of things. GER doesn’t revert attacks, but makes it so that attacks actually never happened in the first place by returning the will of the attacker to zero. Giorno is definitely way way above light speed, even if you wanna lowball him. He still gets to MFTL+ cus Polnareff slashing Hanged Man is far higher than you think tbh. And on a midball, he’s Immeasurable as GER could move in erased time which yes, is actually Time Erasure and not Memory Manipulation! So many people get that wrong… Giorno couldn’t revert the Universe Reset because it causes no harm to not only Giorno, but anyone really. All it does is accelerate the universe to the point where it creates a new one. No where does it show people getting hurt from Pucci. Gojo’s Hollow Purple does not transcend logic, namely cus there are just no feats in JJK that even come close to being logic transcending. Seriously, that’s like saying a Hollow Purple is High Outerversal+, you know how dumb that sounds when the max damage it’s able to cause is City-Mountain Level? Also you said it at the start of your video, GER is passive, so why are you saying GER needs to react to Gojo’s attacks or get clapped?
First off, great video but I do have some disagreements. I do not think GER could be speedblitzed by anyone. He was able to revert an attack that should not have been perceivable to Giorno at all. An attack that came from time that was being skipped over. GER is a passive ability. I also think GER would be able to revert Go Beyond, he says any actions taken against him including a persons willpower will be reset to zero "no matter the ability". Even IF GER couldn't revert Go Beyond / Hollow Purple , I believe GER's combat speed (light speed+) would be enough to dodge any attack coming from Gojo. So it's probably just a stalemate. 🤷♂
@@ThePoyoIsHere I still think GER is above hollow purple. And probably any attack. King Crimson’s predictions are absolute and fated to occur. GER was able to prevent a fated action from occurring. GER also reverts a time based ability. Which I would say is above anything Gojo can do. Also GER affects willpower. You could say the action of reverting Diavolo’s willpower to zero undid his time skip attack. So GER should be able to undo Gojo’s intent of harming Giornio and revert his hollow purple.
Go beyond would probably not be reverted because even though he was thinking about attacking Tooru with them he didn’t get affected by Calamity. This means that even the act of using it at all doesn’t exist because he didn’t actually try to activate anything in the real world. He did do something but what he did was make the bubbles but they didn’t exist so they didn’t get effected by Calamity which is stated to be above all other stand abilities.
W video but this is a stalemate, Hollow Purple doesn't work the way you explained it and even if it did RTZ doesn't work the way you explained it. I still like the video because of the presentation though.
Who’s gonna tell this guy that Eyes of Heaven isn’t canon? Hollow Purple would never reach Giorno because it would never happen in the first place. Return to Zero doesn’t “reverse” an attack, it prevents it from ever happening in the first place. And let’s not ignore all of the “fate” bullshit, because that would be an instant win for Giorno. If we’re using the logic from the manga itself, Heaven Ascension DIO wouldn’t be able to get past GER’s nullification. The only real way of bypassing Giorno’s RTZ would be some Wally West thing where he moves faster than instant teleportation, but even then, RTZ is automatic and GER’s stats are all unknown.
Hollow purple can be easily countered by putting a life form in front of it. If hollow makes contact with it, gojo takes the damage instead. I mean we could argue that both gojo and giorno would take the damage
@@BWHEREdo you even know what you're talking about when it's pertaining both shows JoJo bizarre and jjk both abilities are broken just because someone in the jjk versus that actually bypass Gojo's Infinity doesn't mean nothing just because you said g e r is not omnipotent that doesn't mean anything it's a stand from JoJo it can literally do anything create life so what's with all the downplay
@@BWHEREok if you say so still if gojo did a hollow purple on giorno giorno can easily create a life form like a frog on him that means that gojo will take all the damage
ngl hollow purple is anti matter its still part of reality...its just Gojo called it imaginary because he just gave it properties similar to anti matter making it part of reality when anti matter makes contact with matter they destroy each other similar to hollow purple's properties its either a stalemate or giorno wins if he has other abilities besides RTZ we really didn't see the full power of Ger just a fraction of that in the heat of the moment we haven't even elaborated on its power to kill you infinitely sense gojo relies on six eyes to do everything what if giorno RTZ's gojo and turns him back to pre awakened young gojo and what if gojo's attackes spring back on to him damaging his brain effectively turning his RCT off or kills him if HP's damage gets reflected and deletes gojo or destroying his brain effectively killing him or turning off infinitey its just giorno has more options then gojo, if he moves RTZ if he breath's aggresively against giorno RTZ if he even thinks about it RTZ and the reason why giorno didn't RTZ pucci because its the flow of time its not really harmful towards giorno plus if it was giorno will RTZ time it self back to the beginning of time The big bang
I still think it's inconclusive because Giorno was able to put Diavolo in an infinate death loop without needing to kill him first. Their hax are just too mysterious.
Giorno killed Diavolo in their battle and his body fell into the water. That scene in the sewer is the first of the death loops, Diavolo isn't still alive at that point. Otherwise Giorno wouldn't have let him go, and couldn't have known he would die down there.
Imagine gojo just hits giornos frog wit ha hollow purple and gojo gets erased
Ok, so 4 things
1.) return to 0 is passive GER doesn't need to be active for return to 0 to trigger.
2.) return to 0 didn't cancel Pucci because he was reseting the universe which in no way harms Giorno.
3.) Return to 0 can return ANYTHING to 0 even someone's will as stated by the guidebooks I.E Gojo's will to keep infinity active.
4.) GER is literally immeasurable as show. By all it's stats being 0
TLDR: Gojo looses because his will to do anything gets reverted to 0 & he physically can't be blitzed because all of his abilities are immeasurable.
RTZ didn't affected Pucci because... GER wasn't here. He could have RTZ the universe's reset, but, GER wasn't here. Giorno took back the arrow from GER and when a Requiem have his requiem arrow being taken by his owner, he turns back to his previous version, it's not a definitive version
@@hiro4379 to quote Trish "the arrow is forever Giorno's," & we also know that Even if he did somehow take back the arrow GER would remain because of Chariot requiem.
@@dr.hollow5639 Trish said this in a sense of belonging. The arrow didn't saw Diavolo as worthy, and, the arrow can't belong to Polnareff since he's a turtle. Chariot Requiem turned back to Silver Chariot when Polnareff took back the requiem arrow. A requiem stand goes back to his usual state when his owner takes back the arrow. It's not stated, but, it's shown.
@@hiro4379no, we can see silver chariot R dropping the arrow and still be in his requiem form, so a requiem is forever, a stand only needs to be hurt by the arrow once to be requiem forever
@@giovanniciri3859 that's where you didn't read what I said. Yes, when Chariot lost his requiem arrow he was still Requiem, what I said is, that it has to be the OWNER of the stand who has to take back the arrow like we saw it in the flashback. (If you ask me, no, Polnareff in the turtle cannot take back the arrow, bc, SCR doesn't see him as it's owner anymore/Turlenareff doesn't have the power anymore to control SCR)
Eyes over heaven isn't even canon 😭
Bro loves glazing
I think you misinterpreted RTZ. RTZ doesn't reverse attacks it makes it so the attack will never actually happen. Even if HP was like Go Beyond (HP doesn't actually erase things and can be tanked as shown by Sukuna. And nowhere is it shown that HP transcends logic), Gojo will never activate it, as soon as he intends to do it, his willppwer will be RTZd. He will sit there doing nothing.
Great video, however there are a lot of errors, especially with GER’s side of things.
GER doesn’t revert attacks, but makes it so that attacks actually never happened in the first place by returning the will of the attacker to zero.
Giorno is definitely way way above light speed, even if you wanna lowball him. He still gets to MFTL+ cus Polnareff slashing Hanged Man is far higher than you think tbh. And on a midball, he’s Immeasurable as GER could move in erased time which yes, is actually Time Erasure and not Memory Manipulation! So many people get that wrong…
Giorno couldn’t revert the Universe Reset because it causes no harm to not only Giorno, but anyone really. All it does is accelerate the universe to the point where it creates a new one. No where does it show people getting hurt from Pucci.
Gojo’s Hollow Purple does not transcend logic, namely cus there are just no feats in JJK that even come close to being logic transcending. Seriously, that’s like saying a Hollow Purple is High Outerversal+, you know how dumb that sounds when the max damage it’s able to cause is City-Mountain Level?
Also you said it at the start of your video, GER is passive, so why are you saying GER needs to react to Gojo’s attacks or get clapped?
Okay so don’t return the mass to zero. Return the creation of it to zero
4:25 GER information panel in game says what he needs only one punch to activate infinity death loop
First off, great video but I do have some disagreements.
I do not think GER could be speedblitzed by anyone. He was able to revert an attack that should not have been perceivable to Giorno at all. An attack that came from time that was being skipped over. GER is a passive ability.
I also think GER would be able to revert Go Beyond, he says any actions taken against him including a persons willpower will be reset to zero "no matter the ability". Even IF GER couldn't revert Go Beyond / Hollow Purple , I believe GER's combat speed (light speed+) would be enough to dodge any attack coming from Gojo.
So it's probably just a stalemate. 🤷♂
That’s mostly true but Go Beyond Bubbles won’t be reverted
@@ThePoyoIsHere I still think GER is above hollow purple. And probably any attack. King Crimson’s predictions are absolute and fated to occur. GER was able to prevent a fated action from occurring. GER also reverts a time based ability. Which I would say is above anything Gojo can do.
Also GER affects willpower. You could say the action of reverting Diavolo’s willpower to zero undid his time skip attack. So GER should be able to undo Gojo’s intent of harming Giornio and revert his hollow purple.
@@granttoe I agree with hollow purple. Just not Go Beyond Bubbles
@@ThePoyoIsHereme, I agree with GB being reverted
Go beyond would probably not be reverted because even though he was thinking about attacking Tooru with them he didn’t get affected by Calamity. This means that even the act of using it at all doesn’t exist because he didn’t actually try to activate anything in the real world. He did do something but what he did was make the bubbles but they didn’t exist so they didn’t get effected by Calamity which is stated to be above all other stand abilities.
W video but this is a stalemate, Hollow Purple doesn't work the way you explained it and even if it did RTZ doesn't work the way you explained it. I still like the video because of the presentation though.
Who’s gonna tell this guy that Eyes of Heaven isn’t canon? Hollow Purple would never reach Giorno because it would never happen in the first place. Return to Zero doesn’t “reverse” an attack, it prevents it from ever happening in the first place. And let’s not ignore all of the “fate” bullshit, because that would be an instant win for Giorno. If we’re using the logic from the manga itself, Heaven Ascension DIO wouldn’t be able to get past GER’s nullification. The only real way of bypassing Giorno’s RTZ would be some Wally West thing where he moves faster than instant teleportation, but even then, RTZ is automatic and GER’s stats are all unknown.
Hollow purple can be easily countered by putting a life form in front of it. If hollow makes contact with it, gojo takes the damage instead. I mean we could argue that both gojo and giorno would take the damage
Gojo gets cooked.
awesome vid
Awesome thumbnail!
@@BWHEREdo you even know what you're talking about when it's pertaining both shows JoJo bizarre and jjk both abilities are broken just because someone in the jjk versus that actually bypass Gojo's Infinity doesn't mean nothing just because you said g e r is not omnipotent that doesn't mean anything it's a stand from JoJo it can literally do anything create life so what's with all the downplay
Bro you are the number one gojo glazer
I’m always gonna rep my blue eyed king
@@BWHEREok if you say so still if gojo did a hollow purple on giorno giorno can easily create a life form like a frog on him that means that gojo will take all the damage
ngl hollow purple is anti matter its still part of reality...its just Gojo called it imaginary because he just gave it properties similar to anti matter making it part of reality when anti matter makes contact with matter they destroy each other similar to hollow purple's properties
its either a stalemate or giorno wins if he has other abilities besides RTZ we really didn't see the full power of Ger just a fraction of that in the heat of the moment we haven't even elaborated on its power to kill you infinitely sense gojo relies on six eyes to do everything what if giorno RTZ's gojo and turns him back to pre awakened young gojo and what if gojo's attackes spring back on to him damaging his brain effectively turning his RCT off or kills him if HP's damage gets reflected and deletes gojo or destroying his brain effectively killing him or turning off infinitey its just giorno has more options then gojo, if he moves RTZ if he breath's aggresively against giorno RTZ if he even thinks about it RTZ and the reason why giorno didn't RTZ pucci because its the flow of time its not really harmful towards giorno plus if it was giorno will RTZ time it self back to the beginning of time The big bang
he is to scared to even reply
3:11 Gold experience requiem grants GOJO? the power of flight.
Dont ever diss my glorious champion Giorno Giovanni
How far could Giorno get in JJK. Would he become a Gangstar, or become defeated by Gojo or other high-tiers?
GER is pretty busted, I can see him clearing pretty much everyone. That said, I just know Sukuna would pull some bullshit and win anyway 🙄
@@BWHERE"Return to Zero? Ah yes, I'll have to use a technique I havent used since the Heisei(?) Era!"
bro didnt comment to anyone that was trying to debate bro
Na wrong
Eyes of Heaven isn’t Canon 💀
This fight never happened
I still think it's inconclusive because Giorno was able to put Diavolo in an infinate death loop without needing to kill him first. Their hax are just too mysterious.
Giorno killed Diavolo in their battle and his body fell into the water. That scene in the sewer is the first of the death loops, Diavolo isn't still alive at that point. Otherwise Giorno wouldn't have let him go, and couldn't have known he would die down there.
Fire vid 🔥I love fights like this. It leads to interesting speculation.
Thank you! Characters with complex powers are the most fun to speculate on for sure
Now i want to know if soft and wet would win.
Yes (if including Go Beyond)
17:37 And this why Joker SLAMS Giorno
Done with the doctor i see.