I've been in love with my Breezer Doppler for about 3 years now. I actually just drilled my own hole for a dropper post, and I added a Rockshox Reba fork for maximum offroad bikepacking fun!
My first real MTB was a Breezer. I have ridden mostly road for the past decade, and feel like full circle to a new Breezer gravel bike would be super cool! Thanks for the great video.
This looks really cool. I like my all-around steel frame bikes, and I ride a Masi CX Comp at the moment. I'm sort of tentatively shopping for another though, and while I was eyeballing a Surly Crosscheck, this braze-on covered beauty has piqued my interest. She seems like she can become whatever you want her to become. Love the versatility.
This is a completely different model frame from the first generation Breezer Radar Expert and Breezer Radar Pro. The new frame can fit up to 29x2.5 inch tires. Really want to try one out because the original radar frames have pretty noticeable toe overlap if you try to run larger tires and the bottle cage on the underside of the downtube becomes basically useless if you run anything bigger than the 700x45s that come on it. Plus that top tube decal wasn't put on the pro frame(which is what I have) and that's just a big bummer.
The only thing that I think will hold it back is that the 1x drivetrain. I think having a 2x would have been a better choice as on the road you will run out of gear pretty easily. Plus you could run a slightly lower ratio for those crazy grinds with a loaded bike.
Geared to high to tour in hilly country loaded but easy to put a double crank set on the front but you ll have to put on one bar ends shifter and the right front front derailleur. Or you could change the cassette and rear derailleur.
really cool bike, really long reach and low stack make for odd geo once you add the extra reach of the bars and hoods. catalog frame that I really think this was designed as flat bar bike and breezer tossed drops on it. *much lower stack and over 65mm longer reach than Cutthroat, Mason ISO, B Jackson..and the other 4-5 "beefy" drop bar type bikes Im looking at. I would be in time trial position but ridding a loaded bike on single track. Really love it, and the price, but sure would be an odd fit with drop bars.... if they sold frame and fork I think I could build a nice flat bar bike (acually a weird alt bar with a couple hand positions or maybe a Soma Condor riser drop bar with a 35mm riser stem.
When you said this wasn’t in your wheelhouse, I went and looked at what your channel is about. You’re right! You didn’t pander to cookie cutter big 4 bikes at all in this video! And the bike is super useful! Nice work! 👍🏻
I’m really considering this bike. I’m coming back from a long illness and I need something to put down miles with. I’ve had a Checkpoint SL5 since 2019, but I don’t fit in it any more with my lingering health issues
hmm, kind of looks like a ht mtb from the 90s but with larger wheels and a drop bar, doesn't it :P Already have two steel 90s mtb but would be nice to have one with a droppbar and through axles.
What about the front wheel and your toes getting in the way, considering it's a Size S with 29" wheels? That would be my first question. A lot of bikes come in 650 now in smaller sizes and 700 in medium in large, to deal with potential problems of too big of wheels on smaller geometries.
I feel like I could achieve the same thing this bike does by just taking my 90's Trek 830... replacing the front fork with a carbon disc Fork... weld the rear disk tab on the chromoly frame... and get some drop bars. And I already need a Wheel set so..... Think this actually kind of inspired me on which direction to go with my build!
There are a lot of similarities! And with the gravel segment growing so much there are lots of ways to throw drop bars on a mountain bike and hit the trails. I actually did it with a 2017 Lynskey and love it.
@@DrTomCruisin , would have to agree. IMHO Surly is really doin big things. You get a frame that meets the geo you want. Then turn it into anything you want. As well, instead of investing in another bike. Get the high quality parts instead. And convert it as you fancy.
@@mrsmartypants_1 Obviously there are limits, but I take my gravel bike on singletrack all the damn time. They're surprisingly capable. There is also a huge amount of variation in what "gravel" bike means. Some can do more, some can do less. Point is: as a whole they're the most versatile type of bike out there.
What's old is new again!.. I raced my Breezer MTB in the late 80s with drop bars and STI. See John Tomac's bikes of the same era. Essentially the same theme here but for the wheel size and braze ons.
gravel bikes dont always use mtn bike tires. gravel bikes, also known as adventure bikes, are essentially as you put it, race bike geometry influenced bikes with a wide front fork so you CAN put wider tires on it but they wont get as fat as mtn bike tires. But you can also ride more narrow tires/wheels on it if youre gonna be riding on pavement mostly... but not as skinny as road bike tires. essentially, theyre just the endurance hybrid. you probably knew all that though.
@@pookienumnums yepp, i knew that. I was just wondering why the videouploader didn't knew it. Perhaps he did 😁 As long as there is enough clearance, you can fit nearly any tire on any bike. Back in the day when the first discbrakes appeared on mtbs, everyone shaked or laughed and said they will never prevail in this market. Too heavy and to clumsy and fiddly and so on. Now you find them on your mom's bike and on street bikes.
@@Gwamperter_Hund yeah i figured it was probably a touch of friendly sarcasm after typing it. Its amazing how varied and evolved bikes have become and yet the vintage sytle and design is still very much valid and even preferred in some circles.
Reminds me of the Kona Unit X, but with drop bars. Nothing strange here, if this had MTB bars it would be the natural evolution of the versatile steel MTBs we had in the 90s.
@@Predatorkick Surly also makes versatile steel hardtails like the Krampus and Karate Monkey, but their stuff seem to be more balanced towards trail riding. The Breezer Thunder is more bikepacking than trail, and it looks far more polite. It's good to see the venerable and versatile steel ATB (All terrain bike, not mountain bike) making a comeback. Off the top of my head, we have the Surly Karate Monkey and Krampus, the Velo Orange bikes, the Breezer Thunder and Radar X, the Marin Pine Mountain, and the Brodie Torque.
What size frame are you rocking? I was going to go with 54cm but the standover is 33, which is exactly my inseam. Was like trying to mount a horse. Thinking I will do a 51cm but seems strange to go that small. How you liking the purple color?
This falls into that Bikepacking/Adventure slot easily but it also falls into the DropbarMTB slot as well. Looking at the spacing on that rear triangle from the 2.25 tire you may be able to squeeze in a 2.4 which might be pushing that absolute max width. Personally I would put a dropper on it and go hit the singletrack on it, with a tapered head tube I wonder if it has been suspension corrected to take maybe a 100mm sus fork. Good walk through, appreciate the vid.
@4:10 38T single crank No front derailleur ? I'm not sure if I like this set up for a long distance packer. I guess if someone is bike packing they're not going to be going fast with all those bags. I think they could have done much better if they had a double rings, like 46T/30T. Much better range. Am I the only one who's thinking this ?
I am not a big fan of the seat stay junction. BMX frames create a bigger surface area for the weld by mounting the stays onto the middle of the seat tube, and that would seem appropriate for a frame of this kind. By mounting them behind the seat tube, you are putting a lot of force through a small weld.
@@chromolyelixirsociety6672 Not sure about the crankset, but I know that FD was designed for a 1x and doesn't work well with a 2x, and it doesn't have enough capacity either.
hey, thanks for sharing. How does it roll on tarmac? I'm in the market to looking for a sturdy commuter, daily about 13 km, half of them on road and half on river side path.. thanks! Greets from Italy!
Interesting. But better with flat bars IMHO. 1x 42/11 has quite a small range 42/11 = 3.8. A 3x9 44:32:22 11/34 setup gives a range 44/22 * 34/11 = 6.2. Would be better with hydraulic brakes
@@Jamesthebikeguy The cables inners are a tell-tale sign of cable disc brakes. But perhaps they are some kind of hybrid with hydraulic actuation at the wheel. If range is limited as on this bike, you can have high gears or low gears or a range lowish-highish. But not very low and very high gears. The range can also be understood as the ratio between highest and lowest speeds at which you want to be able to pedal at normal cadence. If you want to be able to pedal while the bike is going at 5 km/h, then with a 3.8 range, your highest speed while pedalling will be 3.8 *5 = 19 km/h. Up the low speed to 8km/h, and the high speed jumps to 30km/h. That makes the 1x really only suitable for people who can ride up any stepness of hill at 8km/h. It's the usual thing with bikes from road culture. The low gears are too high, so you need to be an athlete to use them on steep hills. Make it easier, get a 2x or 3x
In your video it looks like the back of the top tube steering head gusset is open. If so it is a dirt and rust trap, ie :- failure point, waiting to happen. Other than that it looks a nice well specced frame.
@@simongee8928 majority of mountain bikes made now don't have room or mounts for fenders. This bike does have mounts for fenders, but you might need to move to narrower tires, if you want to use full coverage fenders.
The spec sheet says "Breezer butted chromoly steel" but as Gene Machene said 4130 is a stock of steel and any branding is pretty much what someone chooses to call it.
@@jamesmedina2062 Cheap steel would be mild steel - cromoly isn't a cheap quality, independently where the tubes are made. It's a 1500 € bike, so they get enough money to build a good frame.
@@simonm1447 what I was saying is not that the material had a certain value on the market but that the labor element is by far the most expensive element unless it is made in China where labor is cheaper and at scale can also become cheaper. I retract the adjective "very". I did not mean to solely attack the material. Although if it was me I would spec Chromoly but then with cheaper components the bike may not garner the same attention and be overlooked outright. I like something that can be easily upgraded but with a burly heavy frame you are severely limited and the performance will not be that lively. I owned an early mountain bike that was a tank and no matter what I threw on it, it was always a heavy beast. Not impossible to enjoy but not all that huckable or lightweight.
It needs a gates belt and a pinion or rohloff internal hub. Personally I’m fed up with all the cleaning I have to do after every ride. But that’s just me to each his/ her own. I sold all my bikes and started to replace them with internal hubs
This was a great review I bumped into , been looking for a steel bike , I was blown away , more of these reviews of steel bike , great video & researching the bike atm , seen a dropler pro but this one looks bad ass
NOT. ENOUGH. BOTTLE. MOUNTS. Kidding, this thing has 18 braze on "bottle" mounts, one more than the Marin Pine Mountain (please do look it up, that thing is insane). I believe the Breezer Thunder is the flat bar version of the Radar X, that thing takes up to 2.95" tires.
@@Jamesthebikeguy in all seriousness though deciding between this and a few others and there's not a ton of reviews. Have you enjoyed your time with it? Spent much time on it?
@1:42 the person who built this bike has never come off his bike and slide along the top tube, them to bolts are going to ruin the family jewels for sure.
Soma Wolverine B-Type is belt compatible frame that you can gravel grind or tour on. You or your bike shop have to find the parts yourself. Not sold as a full bike.
A usefull and tough looking bike, not sure any mechanic you take it to is going to love bleeding the hybrid brake system, also would have been nice to have had a quick ride review, otherwise pretty good video.
Strangely enough, these are incredibly easy brakes to bleed. I've done them myself and you can actually get away without tools doing it if you're in a pinch.
One of the most normal bikes I’ve seen in a while. I would jump on this no questions asked.
Interesting perspective
I think it's super similar to the Kona Rove Steel models
"The seat tube is super straight, but it's got a little kink in the bottom". Ah, that's just like me.
😂
Nice to acknowledge PLP, Russ does a great job on bike reviews for bikes that non-racers will love...
Yep he does a great job. Interesting and quirky products he reviews as well as high quality video production levels.
I've been in love with my Breezer Doppler for about 3 years now. I actually just drilled my own hole for a dropper post, and I added a Rockshox Reba fork for maximum offroad bikepacking fun!
Wow that sounds like a killer bike!
Question about said hole... How large did you drill? And what, if anything, did you use as a gasket between the frame and the dropper cable?
A proper bike with no BS and extreme utility. Love it
Quite awesome
My first real MTB was a Breezer. I have ridden mostly road for the past decade, and feel like full circle to a new Breezer gravel bike would be super cool! Thanks for the great video.
Sure things, thanks!
@@Jamesthebikeguy is it the same brand as the first ever mountain bike?
With respect, 4130 steel would be the "traditional" material. Aluminum for frames came much later.
This looks really cool. I like my all-around steel frame bikes, and I ride a Masi CX Comp at the moment. I'm sort of tentatively shopping for another though, and while I was eyeballing a Surly Crosscheck, this braze-on covered beauty has piqued my interest. She seems like she can become whatever you want her to become. Love the versatility.
This is a completely different model frame from the first generation Breezer Radar Expert and Breezer Radar Pro. The new frame can fit up to 29x2.5 inch tires. Really want to try one out because the original radar frames have pretty noticeable toe overlap if you try to run larger tires and the bottle cage on the underside of the downtube becomes basically useless if you run anything bigger than the 700x45s that come on it. Plus that top tube decal wasn't put on the pro frame(which is what I have) and that's just a big bummer.
300lb rider + 30lb luggage weight limit. According to Breezer customer service that I emailed a few weeks ago. At least that is for Radar X Pro.
Awesome to know, thanks!
The only thing that I think will hold it back is that the 1x drivetrain. I think having a 2x would have been a better choice as on the road you will run out of gear pretty easily. Plus you could run a slightly lower ratio for those crazy grinds with a loaded bike.
Nice to see some party pace around here too, lol. Great vid!
#thesupplelife
So it's a lot a braze-ons with a bike attached.
Geared to high to tour in hilly country loaded but easy to put a double crank set on the front but you ll have to put on one bar ends shifter and the right front front derailleur. Or you could change the cassette and rear derailleur.
i like that it blurs the lines between many applications….seems like just what i’d want…
really cool bike, really long reach and low stack make for odd geo once you add the extra reach of the bars and hoods. catalog frame that I really think this was designed as flat bar bike and breezer tossed drops on it. *much lower stack and over 65mm longer reach than Cutthroat, Mason ISO, B Jackson..and the other 4-5 "beefy" drop bar type bikes Im looking at. I would be in time trial position but ridding a loaded bike on single track. Really love it, and the price, but sure would be an odd fit with drop bars.... if they sold frame and fork I think I could build a nice flat bar bike (acually a weird alt bar with a couple hand positions or maybe a Soma Condor riser drop bar with a 35mm riser stem.
When you said this wasn’t in your wheelhouse, I went and looked at what your channel is about. You’re right! You didn’t pander to cookie cutter big 4 bikes at all in this video! And the bike is super useful! Nice work! 👍🏻
Lol, welcome to the channel. It's nice to add a troll to the comment section...
Those 2.25 tires look awesome. Love Path Less Pedaled, have some of their pins and stickers as I too ride partypace.
I think it’s a cool bike, so different & that’s why I like it. I like those wide bars, bet it’s comfortable for gravel
Bike seems like a dream for rough gravel adventure.
I’m really considering this bike. I’m coming back from a long illness and I need something to put down miles with. I’ve had a Checkpoint SL5 since 2019, but I don’t fit in it any more with my lingering health issues
Other than the incredible amount of braze-ons, this reminds me a lot of the Nukeproof Digger.
On my salsa fargo I run a 29x2.4 schwalbe hurricane tire. It's awesome. Also run advent x 1x 11-48 cassette
Sounds like a cool setup!
hmm, kind of looks like a ht mtb from the 90s but with larger wheels and a drop bar, doesn't it :P Already have two steel 90s mtb but would be nice to have one with a droppbar and through axles.
The through axles are really nice feature on this for sure.
It could be a Beachrace bike for the Dutch winter beach races. Put some Schwalbe G-One 29ers on it and some frame spray against te salt and go!
I just bought one, love it.
Do you still love it after two years?
What about the front wheel and your toes getting in the way, considering it's a Size S with 29" wheels? That would be my first question. A lot of bikes come in 650 now in smaller sizes and 700 in medium in large, to deal with potential problems of too big of wheels on smaller geometries.
I feel like I could achieve the same thing this bike does by just taking my 90's Trek 830... replacing the front fork with a carbon disc Fork... weld the rear disk tab on the chromoly frame... and get some drop bars. And I already need a Wheel set so.....
Think this actually kind of inspired me on which direction to go with my build!
There are a lot of similarities! And with the gravel segment growing so much there are lots of ways to throw drop bars on a mountain bike and hit the trails. I actually did it with a 2017 Lynskey and love it.
Very nice, this is more my wheelhouse. A jack of all trades. Resonabley priced, and down for whatever.
Just plain ready for fun!
Broadly speaking, I think that's what makes gravel bikes so great. You can do almost anything with them.
@@DrTomCruisin , would have to agree. IMHO Surly is really doin big things. You get a frame that meets the geo you want. Then turn it into anything you want. As well, instead of investing in another bike. Get the high quality parts instead. And convert it as you fancy.
@@DrTomCruisin Umm no lol. You’d die on that thing on most of the mountain bike trails I ride.
@@mrsmartypants_1 Obviously there are limits, but I take my gravel bike on singletrack all the damn time. They're surprisingly capable. There is also a huge amount of variation in what "gravel" bike means. Some can do more, some can do less. Point is: as a whole they're the most versatile type of bike out there.
a hardtail with a rigid fork on it sounds like a comfortable bike
Looks like a gravel bike. They are are the new kid on the block. Been around for a few years now.
What's old is new again!.. I raced my Breezer MTB in the late 80s with drop bars and STI. See John Tomac's bikes of the same era. Essentially the same theme here but for the wheel size and braze ons.
Lol pretty much.
Bought Radar X. Absolutely delighted! The front brake is very hard. Rear smoothly and weakly. Is that what the manufacturer intended?
They should be matched. you might need to do some adjusting
@@Jamesthebikeguy Thank you
Looks like one of those so called gravel bikes....a race bike with MTB tires.
gravel bikes dont always use mtn bike tires. gravel bikes, also known as adventure bikes, are essentially as you put it, race bike geometry influenced bikes with a wide front fork so you CAN put wider tires on it but they wont get as fat as mtn bike tires. But you can also ride more narrow tires/wheels on it if youre gonna be riding on pavement mostly... but not as skinny as road bike tires. essentially, theyre just the endurance hybrid. you probably knew all that though.
@@pookienumnums yepp, i knew that. I was just wondering why the videouploader didn't knew it. Perhaps he did 😁
As long as there is enough clearance, you can fit nearly any tire on any bike. Back in the day when the first discbrakes appeared on mtbs, everyone shaked or laughed and said they will never prevail in this market. Too heavy and to clumsy and fiddly and so on. Now you find them on your mom's bike and on street bikes.
@@Gwamperter_Hund yeah i figured it was probably a touch of friendly sarcasm after typing it. Its amazing how varied and evolved bikes have become and yet the vintage sytle and design is still very much valid and even preferred in some circles.
Gravel bikes have more in common with Enduro bikes than road ones. More relaxed geometry and even more ground clearance than CX bikes.
Is the gearing good enough on the top end to cross over into a little road riding?
Reminds me of the Kona Unit X, but with drop bars. Nothing strange here, if this had MTB bars it would be the natural evolution of the versatile steel MTBs we had in the 90s.
Whispers in ear: Breezer Thunder.
@@tomhsia4354 yep, the thunder qualifies
@@Predatorkick Surly also makes versatile steel hardtails like the Krampus and Karate Monkey, but their stuff seem to be more balanced towards trail riding.
The Breezer Thunder is more bikepacking than trail, and it looks far more polite.
It's good to see the venerable and versatile steel ATB (All terrain bike, not mountain bike) making a comeback.
Off the top of my head, we have the Surly Karate Monkey and Krampus, the Velo Orange bikes, the Breezer Thunder and Radar X, the Marin Pine Mountain, and the Brodie Torque.
Would this work for long distance touring?
I have a Radar Pro and I love it. Amazing bike. Breezer makes a great quality product especially for the money.
What size frame are you rocking? I was going to go with 54cm but the standover is 33, which is exactly my inseam. Was like trying to mount a horse. Thinking I will do a 51cm but seems strange to go that small. How you liking the purple color?
This falls into that Bikepacking/Adventure slot easily but it also falls into the DropbarMTB slot as well. Looking at the spacing on that rear triangle from the 2.25 tire you may be able to squeeze in a 2.4 which might be pushing that absolute max width. Personally I would put a dropper on it and go hit the singletrack on it, with a tapered head tube I wonder if it has been suspension corrected to take maybe a 100mm sus fork.
Good walk through, appreciate the vid.
Thanks for watching. A Gravel fork would be more interesting to me IMO as this is not suspension corrected.
@4:10 38T single crank No front derailleur ?
I'm not sure if I like this set up for a long distance packer. I guess if someone is bike packing they're not going to be going fast with all those bags.
I think they could have done much better if they had a double rings, like 46T/30T. Much better range.
Am I the only one who's thinking this ?
For loaded touring I'd fit double rings .
Your the only one 🤔😁😁
I agree 100%, more proof that 1x is a fad, 2x is still very relevant in some disciplines.
Assuming that is Joe Breeze's signature on the inside of the chain stay ~ classy
I am not a big fan of the seat stay junction. BMX frames create a bigger surface area for the weld by mounting the stays onto the middle of the seat tube, and that would seem appropriate for a frame of this kind. By mounting them behind the seat tube, you are putting a lot of force through a small weld.
Interesting idea 💡
All those mounts, but none for a frame lock. Europe weeps!!
Very cool bike! Personally I'd have to drop the teeth on that front ring for me to move it. Specially if the bike was loaded with gear.
Good thing it is a direct mount chainring on that FSA crank. Cheap chainrings and easy to change. Swap it out depending on the adventure!
@@chromolyelixirsociety6672 Not sure about the crankset, but I know that FD was designed for a 1x and doesn't work well with a 2x, and it doesn't have enough capacity either.
It’s kind of like a plus tyre gravel bike
Pretty much!
it's called a Monster Gravel/Monster Cross bike. that's my build setup for my Foxter FT301 (2019) currently 😊
Monster Cross is a good term. Although that used to be relegated to old mountain bikes converted. Still works on this.
@@Jamesthebikeguy yes... coz it's basically a mountain bike with a rigid fork and drop bars. 😁
_it has to be an all rounder. beautiful utilitarian bike._
it actually looks exactly like a cheaper version of my bosses bike. if y’all are interested in a bike like this, check out monster cross bikes.
Joe Breese, one of the grandfathers of mountain biking
Yep, too bad Breezer is not producing much in the way of mountain bikes.
hey, thanks for sharing. How does it roll on tarmac? I'm in the market to looking for a sturdy commuter, daily about 13 km, half of them on road and half on river side path.. thanks! Greets from Italy!
I need the flat bar version of this so I can throw a Bafang BBSHD on it. These Breezer bikes are beautiful.
That would be fun.
Check out the breezer thunder, then.
Good video, thanks for talking about this bike. Cant find much info on it
Yeah yea, glad to help
This with a Rohloff would be the perfect bike
So true, I'd be into that!
Would be nice if you include infor like how it rides.
Sorry I don't know how to ride a bike
Awesome ride …. Thinking of getting one .
Interesting. But better with flat bars IMHO. 1x 42/11 has quite a small range 42/11 = 3.8. A 3x9 44:32:22 11/34 setup gives a range 44/22 * 34/11 = 6.2. Would be better with hydraulic brakes
Still has the climbing gear needed, also this is hydraulic disc brakes
@@Jamesthebikeguy The cables inners are a tell-tale sign of cable disc brakes. But perhaps they are some kind of hybrid with hydraulic actuation at the wheel.
If range is limited as on this bike, you can have high gears or low gears or a range lowish-highish. But not very low and very high gears.
The range can also be understood as the ratio between highest and lowest speeds at which you want to be able to pedal at normal cadence. If you want to be able to pedal while the bike is going at 5 km/h, then with a 3.8 range, your highest speed while pedalling will be 3.8 *5 = 19 km/h. Up the low speed to 8km/h, and the high speed jumps to 30km/h. That makes the 1x really only suitable for people who can ride up any stepness of hill at 8km/h.
It's the usual thing with bikes from road culture. The low gears are too high, so you need to be an athlete to use them on steep hills. Make it easier, get a 2x or 3x
Where can you buy this bike at?
I would like that bike but with flat bars.
They sell one like that!
In your video it looks like the back of the top tube steering head gusset is open. If so it is a dirt and rust trap, ie :- failure point, waiting to happen. Other than that it looks a nice well specced frame.
Hmm, lots of bikes are that way. I wonder if it truly does cause any issues.
Don't worry. The lack of mudguards will soon have the frame scoured away by upthrown dirt and debris - !
@@simongee8928
Yes, shame about the planned obsolesence. A bike like that should be good for decades of loaded touring.
@@simongee8928 majority of mountain bikes made now don't have room or mounts for fenders. This bike does have mounts for fenders, but you might need to move to narrower tires, if you want to use full coverage fenders.
@@visualpun650 Yup. You can always tell mtb riders by the great streaks of mud and gunge on the bike, rider and baggage - ! 😆
Steel - which brand and type of steel tubes? Columbus? Reynolds?
4130 Chromoly is usually standard all around, and normally doesn’t get any special branding outside of being called “4130”.
The spec sheet says "Breezer butted chromoly steel" but as Gene Machene said 4130 is a stock of steel and any branding is pretty much what someone chooses to call it.
very cheap steel made in China probably
@@jamesmedina2062 Cheap steel would be mild steel - cromoly isn't a cheap quality, independently where the tubes are made. It's a 1500 € bike, so they get enough money to build a good frame.
@@simonm1447 what I was saying is not that the material had a certain value on the market but that the labor element is by far the most expensive element unless it is made in China where labor is cheaper and at scale can also become cheaper. I retract the adjective "very". I did not mean to solely attack the material. Although if it was me I would spec Chromoly but then with cheaper components the bike may not garner the same attention and be overlooked outright. I like something that can be easily upgraded but with a burly heavy frame you are severely limited and the performance will not be that lively. I owned an early mountain bike that was a tank and no matter what I threw on it, it was always a heavy beast. Not impossible to enjoy but not all that huckable or lightweight.
2.1 inch width is outdated from older versions. This bike can support 2.5 tires
They ought to update their spec sheet and website if that is the case. Shows on the product page as 2.1 max tire clearance.
One of the more useful features that they've omitted would have been a belt splitter
Could just weld one on
@@Jamesthebikeguy and tension the belt?
i have the Breezer doppler cafe plus and its amazing bike..super smoth ride
It needs a gates belt and a pinion or rohloff internal hub. Personally I’m fed up with all the cleaning I have to do after every ride. But that’s just me to each his/ her own. I sold all my bikes and started to replace them with internal hubs
Internal hubs are fantastic
Epic looking bike, wish it was available frame only!
Cheap enough to buy the whole thing and swap things you want
Uh, it's a bike.... two wheels, pedals, and a seat....
if u put a xc handle bar on it surely it will look like a XC like the polygon bikes
Have you seen their Breezer Thunder? That bike is awesome with the flat bar
This was a great review I bumped into , been looking for a steel bike , I was blown away , more of these reviews of steel bike , great video & researching the bike atm , seen a dropler pro but this one looks bad ass
Yeah this is truly a very cool bike
I want one , can't find one in Australia
How does it ride? It looks nice for off road bike packing. Probably too slow for credit card touring.
More camping and adventure than credit card touring I would think.
In my country we call it a hybrid bike. Ride the roads n gravels n shred the trails. But not for shredding the gnars. Lols
Interesting, just guessed it to be at 12kg about, was quite close then
New steel frame bike? Nice. I would change wheels to 26 inch . Much stronger imho
Right on
Nice review for this beautiful beast.. Awesome.
Thanks 👍
Can you please tell me the frame size? my height is 178
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Gravel Adventure dude!
Brah, your right
Hey, really nice vid!
What do you think of the Breezer Thunder?
I'm in love with that bike. On my list of bikes to get if I somehow find myself with an excess of cash... (Lol if only 😂)
what they ment by hybrid
NOT. ENOUGH. BOTTLE. MOUNTS.
Kidding, this thing has 18 braze on "bottle" mounts, one more than the Marin Pine Mountain (please do look it up, that thing is insane). I believe the Breezer Thunder is the flat bar version of the Radar X, that thing takes up to 2.95" tires.
These things are killer. I do love the Radar
I would shred anything with this beast. who cares about the weight I would still destroy any terrain. solid share.
Cheers.
Awesome bike
I have its sister, Breezer Doppler. Great bike.
Good choice!
Burundi banana bicycle racer documentary on RUclips, they need this bike, maybe with 220mm rotors though.
I am shocked by its weight. I fully expected it to weigh over 30lbs.
Pretty impressive!
Watch the chain on the front sproket 👀
I put drop bars and skinnier tires on my Surly KM I have the same bike. No, I’ll keep the flat bar.
Have you seen the Breezer Thunder? Ive been perusing their site after seeing this bike and believe that Thunder would be a perfect bike!
Good stuff. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
No Pedals???
How's the bike broken in?
Not broken yet
@@Jamesthebikeguy in all seriousness though deciding between this and a few others and there's not a ton of reviews. Have you enjoyed your time with it? Spent much time on it?
I would have liked it to have at least a 70 degree head angle to eliminate the bike from having wheel flop.
@1:42 the person who built this bike has never come off his bike and slide along the top tube, them to bolts are going to ruin the family jewels for sure.
Thank you for this information
You got it!
X for cross country?
Party pace! Lets go
#thesupplelife
This would be a cool bike for a belt drive set-up
For sure.
Soma Wolverine B-Type is belt compatible frame that you can gravel grind or tour on. You or your bike shop have to find the parts yourself. Not sold as a full bike.
38:42? climbing? with load? that will be hard.
Wow w
How I wish Philippines can have it .
That bike will surely fits my riding style.
Saweet!
A usefull and tough looking bike, not sure any mechanic you take it to is going to love bleeding the hybrid brake system, also would have been nice to have had a quick ride review, otherwise pretty good video.
Strangely enough, these are incredibly easy brakes to bleed. I've done them myself and you can actually get away without tools doing it if you're in a pinch.
The only thing missing is a suspension
Why not pop a suspension fork on it and a riser bar and it's all the way there.
Basically