Silly presentation. He presented it as though all Tiger 800's don't have any of the features he mentioned as his excuses for selling it. 1. Transition bike - he should have just gotten the bike he wanted to start with! 2 &4: No cruise control or ABS - he got an old bike. He didn't say what year it was, but it was first generation 2011-2014 - and he bought it in 2021 - which is likely why it was "cheap!" If he had gotten a 2nd gen Tiger 800, he could have had cruise control and ABS! 6. Brakes: 3rd Generation 2018-20 had Brembo brakes - should have gotten that. Regarding Spoked Wheels: He could have gotten the XC model from whatever year his bike was, and then he would have had spoked wheels. All the rest is non-sense. Comfort and handlebars could have easily been replaced if they were truly an issue. And RE: "front end not stable" - LOL! He presented the bike as though all Tiger 800's are lacking, and the same model year GS he was replacing it with was superior in all these ways. In reality he was probably upgrading to a more late model GS, and since he didn't even get the right model Tiger 800 for his needs, it's not really a fair presentation of the Tiger 800. Waste of time to watch
Talking about silly things, your comment is a lot sillier than his reasons for selling the bike. Your comment made you look like an entitled kid that doesn't like what people have to say about his toy. People are allowed to buy many different bikes and try them out for longer than a dealer lets you test ride a bike. And yes, in terms of features it lacks a lot compared to the same year GS since bmw added cruise control from 2013 (that I'm aware of) and electronic adjustable suspension etc. And if you go that road then this bike is not fit for purpose without messing about and replacing different things like bars, pegs or anything other things that you might not like and you're better off going for another bike which is exactly what he's doing 😂and in case you're thinking about this, changing parts to make the bike "yours" and changing parts cause they make the bike feel bad are two different things.
@@bikerdude1569 - you seem to have missed my point. His presentation of his Tiger 800 suggested that ALL Tiger 800's were lacking cruise control, ABS, strong brakes, & spoked wheels, etc. His premise was that he was "upgrading" to a GS - because GS's - regardless of model or year - were superior because GS's had all these features, even though many Tiger 800 models also have all these features and more. This kind of comparison is non-sense. IF you are going to compare two bikes, they should be from approximately the same year, size and category. His comparison failed on all these accounts.
@@tecdive8045 I did not miss your point. You just took this video and the way he presented the reasons he wants to swap the Tiger for a GS too personal. Maybe he always wanted a GS but couldn't afford it or wasn't sure he can handle it at the time and bought something more affordable and smaller in size to get used to the type of ride these bikes offer and now it's finally time to buy the GS. Also, he didn't say the Tiger 800 is rubbish or anything like that. He just said that HIS Tiger 800 doesn't have the features he's looking for.
I just rode one, delivering for a friend. I ride a '15 FJR 1300. I was very impressed with it. The engine is lively, it feels light and cruised 75-80mph for about 50 miles. Very capable bike, it is alittle buzzy being a 3 cylinder. All in all i like it.
Thanks for your truly honest video review. I like the look of the bike, the engine response but that front handling is something that I have heard of before. Thanks again.
Thanks for the great feedback. Yeah it was my major gripe. Some people say it should have been adjusted for my weight, but I never had an issue like this before on a bike. Atleast not this noticeable. Cornering was really scary.... Ride safe!
Well, I have also had this bike for 18 months here in UK and I agree that it is a great all round bike for the money. I also bought it so my wife could ride with me, although I find her weight helps with stability. I have yet to try it with full panniers. I quite fancy a GS but that is somewhat heavier and not cheap here in UK. I shall keep following you and see how you get on with yours. No pressure! I wish you luck with it! Ride Safe.
Haha. Yes I’m interested to see how the transition goes. I will still be a lifelong fan of the tiger. Glad to have you along for the journey. See you on the pavement.
Its the front suspension that gave you that feeling.None adjustable. Thats why its important to have the rear tuned for yourself and Not the previous owner.
I am looking to get the 2012 Tiger 800xc as my first adventure bike in 2024. I don’t intend to do technical trails, mostly roads and occasional gravel. I am getting it for $3500 so please lmk if there is anything in particular that I should look out for. Especially, any recurring issues that you have encountered during your ownership.
Honestly it was a solid bike. Of course the 2024 model is a different beast all together. I did hear some tiger models having issues with the TFT and triumph wouldn’t pay to replace them. Just watch out for that. They have have fixed that. Otherwise I am a huge triumph tiger fan. Way under rated bikes
This is the bike I am looking at after I finish my safety training courses as my first bike. I am kinda scared it's too big, but I have a drivers license for 20 years, so my thinking is that I can handle a bigger bike with caution and responsibility, and considering paying attention to trafic is second nature to me. I am also fairly high, 185cm, so I am thinking I can handle it, and grow into it in ~2 years. Personally I don't think I want to go higher than this tbh...
Hahaha I started to read “I’m fairly high” I was like well don’t smoke and ride hahah. This tiger is very manageable. Maybe try riding it a bit and see how it feels. You are 5cm taller than me, but I didn’t have any issues with height.
@@AmericanAbroad1 Yeah, I hate being high in general, so definitely no smoking and riding for me 😂 Here in Europe we are required to do the driving course, so I will have some experience before I sit on my bike, but this seemed a bit heavy, but ofc I have no idea what I need to do with that weight, and if I ever need to oppose it in any way(hopefully not). Seems like a great bike, not sure what I could ask about it, I just want a good one at a decent price(used ofc). I have patience, I know now is not the best time of the year to buy a bike, everyone is buying now...
@@csakzozo Yeah, its definately an under rated bike. Normally you can get it very cheap also. I have a review I did for the bike on here also. If you can get a bit of a newer model I would. This particuler one was the very first ideration and they always refine best after the first. I loved it becasue it was easy to move aorund the garage even being off the bike. Also when your sitiing on the bike it feels very light. I had teh comfort seat in its lowest setting. I like to sit down ina bike and not on top of it. If you can spring for a Tiger after 2013 would be good. www.autoscout24.com/offers/triumph-tiger-800-xrt-gasoline-white-c9fd86c7-cfa7-40ed-9c4c-c2c2644e47ee?sort=standard&desc=0&lastSeenGuidPresent=false&cldtidx=1&position=1&search_id=21v8gtysirr&source_otp=t30&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown Above is an example.
@@AmericanAbroad1 They look like motorcycles. Even the old, air-cooled Tigers looked like a motorcycle. These new Tigers and other motorcycles from other manufacturers don't look like motorcycles Husqvarna for one. The older ones with the silver frames and red gas tanks, aluminum fenders were beautiful. I wish that their designers and engineers would improve. The pre-2020 Tigers sound good though. They sound like my H-1 Kawasaki but in 4 stroke. As is often shouted in unison upon the streets of Kyoto, Japan: " Hey! " RUclips video: 2017.3.26京都橘高校吹奏楽部京都さくらパレード交款コンサートパーカッション
Ho tiger 800 xrt 2018,46000km ,va alla grande e ha tutte le diavolerie elettroniche delle ultime generazioni(cruise,traction ,manopole e sella riscaldata,etc..). Credo sia tra le moto universali migliori del mercato: costi di gestione umani,è tranquilla e leggera come uno scooter nel traffico,velocissima quando serve in autostrada e se c'è da fare un sorpasso. Permette brevi passeggiate di pochi km per andare al bar e gite di diverse ore senza stancare. Per me sarà difficile trovare una sostituta😀
Looking at the country side and I'm thinking to myself, that looks familiar. Then you said "Bom Dia". Ah.... Portugal. Been there many times. Absolutely beautiful country. Even the highways are gorgeous. As for the Tiger, we all have our reasons. I'm going the other way. Getting rid of my BMW and buying the Tiger 800 XCa which has cruise and heated seat and grips. But the GS is a solid choice as well. incidentally, if you look at the stone pavers your bike is sitting on, that is most likely 2000 year old Roman road material.
Haha you are correct! Epic roads man. Some of the best I’ve been on. They new tigers are a force man. They really are super nice. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to a chain and sprocket though. I love the drive shaft. Yes, I love all the history here
Hi there bike looking good man the new guy is going to love his new bike . The question is the front bars look like the will do the job well . I was wounding what at the name of the fully rap around bars . I think that will be my first purchase . Yes just a bomb proof bike that's what I am looking at . Look luck with the new GS .
As you can see there are many other reasons not just engine size. Also the tech improvements that have happened over 8years is a big upgrade. If you want to hear the numerous upgrades you can watch my GS review. Maybe that will close the gap in the story for you.
@@spangoz1000 very true. I like the tech for comfort reasons. I can have a comfy ride when I want for long stretches of highway or make the suspension more aggressive for twisties. Also, cornering ABS is a big safety feature. Breaking power also is way better in the GS. Of course many like a bare bones approach. I would love to try the T7 world raid if I wanted less tech.
Cornering ABS! Yes, I'll be switching my Tiger when a bike come with it around the same price range. I would have jumped on a TT 700 if it had it. For now I'm satisfied with my Tiger. Hope you're next bike checks all the boxes for you 🤞
Probably a few factors; 1. Triumph was a huge brand back in the day with scrambler style bikes, but notorious for having issues. 2. British made. Land Rover is British made and also notorious for having mechanical issues. But triumph has come a long way from its former glory and I believe they made phenomenal bikes.
Great reasons, all. I’m happy for you and hope the next adventure is even better! ... I just bought this bike in the 2016 model year 800 XR with factory cruise control. Will add heated grips. I am coming from a larger bike, a Yamaha super Tenere 1200. In my opinion, as fun it is to have the bigger bike and feel more planted with lower-down weight, the overall weight is substantial, agility decreases, and the number of times of carrying a pilion is very few. That was a deal breaker for me. I decided not to stick with it and preferred the smaller engine displacement of a midsize adventuring machine like the tiger. The GS of course is amazing, but cost of ownership is a concern, secondary market prices tend toward unrealistic. I hope you get a great deal on one, and ride the heck out of it, and form your own conclusions. Of course, having a 1200 AND an 800 would be the best of both worlds! Good to have goals, right?
Totally agree. I absolutely loved the time I spent on the Tenere 1200es. It’s like a budget GS that’s got better reliability. I believe if I have a newer Tiger I may not make the change at all. The trips I have done on the GS have just sold me on power and comfort. Also, the maneuverability, but I haven’t “lived” with one before. So let’s see. If I jump ship from a BMW it would be back to Triumph for sure. Thanks for ur comment. I always enjoy peoples perspectives. Stay in touch
They are dual purpose bikes..gs its just a damn sofa heavy..too heavy for off road..max at 200kg it should be..real enduro are about 150kg ..those who buy bmw gs ride it on road..on road i would buy something else..only ktm and triumph are spot on dual bikes
100% agree. I used to race motocross and I really don’t wanna go off road on anything other than a dirtbike. Not fun with something so heavy. Plus if it falls it’s not going to crush you. I can do light gravel on the GS but road is where it shines
@@AmericanAbroad1 a friend in eu trip..he fell from his gs1200 in a deep mud for 2 days..he couldn't take her off him ..his friends was looking for him they found him just before started rain...350kg with all bags and bs..a wr450 new is 9k for me the best enduro
@@AmericanAbroad1 he was but he started with delay to catch them..the rain would be his end...she fell on him and the mud was deep on the side of the road..scary
The GS has always been a dream. I haven’t riden a new 1200 yet. I have riden a 2021 1200 and it’s definitely a great bike. I would love to try the new tiger, but the screen along with some other features kept it out of my sightline.
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Silly presentation. He presented it as though all Tiger 800's don't have any of the features he mentioned as his excuses for selling it. 1. Transition bike - he should have just gotten the bike he wanted to start with! 2 &4: No cruise control or ABS - he got an old bike. He didn't say what year it was, but it was first generation 2011-2014 - and he bought it in 2021 - which is likely why it was "cheap!" If he had gotten a 2nd gen Tiger 800, he could have had cruise control and ABS! 6. Brakes: 3rd Generation 2018-20 had Brembo brakes - should have gotten that. Regarding Spoked Wheels: He could have gotten the XC model from whatever year his bike was, and then he would have had spoked wheels. All the rest is non-sense. Comfort and handlebars could have easily been replaced if they were truly an issue. And RE: "front end not stable" - LOL! He presented the bike as though all Tiger 800's are lacking, and the same model year GS he was replacing it with was superior in all these ways. In reality he was probably upgrading to a more late model GS, and since he didn't even get the right model Tiger 800 for his needs, it's not really a fair presentation of the Tiger 800. Waste of time to watch
Talking about silly things, your comment is a lot sillier than his reasons for selling the bike. Your comment made you look like an entitled kid that doesn't like what people have to say about his toy.
People are allowed to buy many different bikes and try them out for longer than a dealer lets you test ride a bike. And yes, in terms of features it lacks a lot compared to the same year GS since bmw added cruise control from 2013 (that I'm aware of) and electronic adjustable suspension etc.
And if you go that road then this bike is not fit for purpose without messing about and replacing different things like bars, pegs or anything other things that you might not like and you're better off going for another bike which is exactly what he's doing 😂and in case you're thinking about this, changing parts to make the bike "yours" and changing parts cause they make the bike feel bad are two different things.
@@bikerdude1569 - you seem to have missed my point. His presentation of his Tiger 800 suggested that ALL Tiger 800's were lacking cruise control, ABS, strong brakes, & spoked wheels, etc. His premise was that he was "upgrading" to a GS - because GS's - regardless of model or year - were superior because GS's had all these features, even though many Tiger 800 models also have all these features and more. This kind of comparison is non-sense. IF you are going to compare two bikes, they should be from approximately the same year, size and category. His comparison failed on all these accounts.
@@tecdive8045 I did not miss your point. You just took this video and the way he presented the reasons he wants to swap the Tiger for a GS too personal. Maybe he always wanted a GS but couldn't afford it or wasn't sure he can handle it at the time and bought something more affordable and smaller in size to get used to the type of ride these bikes offer and now it's finally time to buy the GS. Also, he didn't say the Tiger 800 is rubbish or anything like that. He just said that HIS Tiger 800 doesn't have the features he's looking for.
I just rode one, delivering for a friend. I ride a '15 FJR 1300. I was very impressed with it. The engine is lively, it feels light and cruised 75-80mph for about 50 miles. Very capable bike, it is alittle buzzy being a 3 cylinder. All in all i like it.
Yeah it has a very unique sound and feel. It was a very smooth engine. I’d love to try the 900.
Thanks for your comment! Ride safe
Thanks for your truly honest video review. I like the look of the bike, the engine response but that front handling is something that I have heard of before. Thanks again.
Thanks for the great feedback. Yeah it was my major gripe. Some people say it should have been adjusted for my weight, but I never had an issue like this before on a bike. Atleast not this noticeable. Cornering was really scary....
Ride safe!
Well, I have also had this bike for 18 months here in UK and I agree that it is a great all round bike for the money. I also bought it so my wife could ride with me, although I find her weight helps with stability. I have yet to try it with full panniers. I quite fancy a GS but that is somewhat heavier and not cheap here in UK. I shall keep following you and see how you get on with yours. No pressure! I wish you luck with it! Ride Safe.
Haha. Yes I’m interested to see how the transition goes. I will still be a lifelong fan of the tiger. Glad to have you along for the journey.
See you on the pavement.
im selling my 1200GSA 2019. Either want to buy a tiger 800 XRT or the 1050. i fell i don't need anything expensive to still have fun.
Its the front suspension that gave you that feeling.None adjustable. Thats why its important to have the rear tuned for yourself and Not the previous owner.
Bigger is usually better. I'm 74 years old and looking for a Tiger. Riding a Hold Wing now
Totally. I have been on my grandfathers gold wing and it’s a heavy beast. Anything that requires a reverse button must be heavy haha
tiger 800 has cruise control starts from 2015. 900 as well. Overall its a ridicilous review - don't take it serious.
those panniers are huge! must be great for touring, defo bigger than my honda vfr oem ones
Yeah I wouldn’t go back to other panniers. I love how much I can fit. Great for brining water camping or storing your helmet and riding gear
I am looking to get the 2012 Tiger 800xc as my first adventure bike in 2024. I don’t intend to do technical trails, mostly roads and occasional gravel. I am getting it for $3500 so please lmk if there is anything in particular that I should look out for. Especially, any recurring issues that you have encountered during your ownership.
Honestly it was a solid bike. Of course the 2024 model is a different beast all together. I did hear some tiger models having issues with the TFT and triumph wouldn’t pay to replace them. Just watch out for that. They have have fixed that.
Otherwise I am a huge triumph tiger fan. Way under rated bikes
This is the bike I am looking at after I finish my safety training courses as my first bike. I am kinda scared it's too big, but I have a drivers license for 20 years, so my thinking is that I can handle a bigger bike with caution and responsibility, and considering paying attention to trafic is second nature to me. I am also fairly high, 185cm, so I am thinking I can handle it, and grow into it in ~2 years. Personally I don't think I want to go higher than this tbh...
Hahaha I started to read “I’m fairly high” I was like well don’t smoke and ride hahah.
This tiger is very manageable. Maybe try riding it a bit and see how it feels. You are 5cm taller than me, but I didn’t have any issues with height.
If you have any major questions ask away. I loved the bike
@@AmericanAbroad1 Yeah, I hate being high in general, so definitely no smoking and riding for me 😂
Here in Europe we are required to do the driving course, so I will have some experience before I sit on my bike, but this seemed a bit heavy, but ofc I have no idea what I need to do with that weight, and if I ever need to oppose it in any way(hopefully not). Seems like a great bike, not sure what I could ask about it, I just want a good one at a decent price(used ofc). I have patience, I know now is not the best time of the year to buy a bike, everyone is buying now...
@@csakzozo Yeah, its definately an under rated bike. Normally you can get it very cheap also. I have a review I did for the bike on here also. If you can get a bit of a newer model I would. This particuler one was the very first ideration and they always refine best after the first.
I loved it becasue it was easy to move aorund the garage even being off the bike. Also when your sitiing on the bike it feels very light. I had teh comfort seat in its lowest setting. I like to sit down ina bike and not on top of it.
If you can spring for a Tiger after 2013 would be good. www.autoscout24.com/offers/triumph-tiger-800-xrt-gasoline-white-c9fd86c7-cfa7-40ed-9c4c-c2c2644e47ee?sort=standard&desc=0&lastSeenGuidPresent=false&cldtidx=1&position=1&search_id=21v8gtysirr&source_otp=t30&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown
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Hello, my only dislike of this current Triumph Tiger is that it does not look like a Bonneville.
Hahaha yes, I do love a bonneville also
@@AmericanAbroad1 They look like motorcycles. Even the old, air-cooled Tigers looked like a motorcycle. These new Tigers and other motorcycles from other manufacturers don't look like motorcycles Husqvarna for one. The older ones with the silver frames and red gas tanks, aluminum fenders were beautiful. I wish that their designers and engineers would improve. The pre-2020 Tigers sound good though. They sound like my H-1 Kawasaki but in 4 stroke.
As is often shouted in unison upon the streets of Kyoto, Japan: " Hey! " RUclips video: 2017.3.26京都橘高校吹奏楽部京都さくらパレード交款コンサートパーカッション
I don't have a wife... Next video!
Well then this bike is perfect for you!
Ho tiger 800 xrt 2018,46000km ,va alla grande e ha tutte le diavolerie elettroniche delle ultime generazioni(cruise,traction ,manopole e sella riscaldata,etc..).
Credo sia tra le moto universali migliori del mercato: costi di gestione umani,è tranquilla e leggera come uno scooter nel traffico,velocissima quando serve in autostrada e se c'è da fare un sorpasso.
Permette brevi passeggiate di pochi km per andare al bar e gite di diverse ore senza stancare.
Per me sarà difficile trovare una sostituta😀
Looking at the country side and I'm thinking to myself, that looks familiar. Then you said "Bom Dia". Ah.... Portugal. Been there many times. Absolutely beautiful country. Even the highways are gorgeous. As for the Tiger, we all have our reasons. I'm going the other way. Getting rid of my BMW and buying the Tiger 800 XCa which has cruise and heated seat and grips. But the GS is a solid choice as well. incidentally, if you look at the stone pavers your bike is sitting on, that is most likely 2000 year old Roman road material.
Haha you are correct!
Epic roads man. Some of the best I’ve been on. They new tigers are a force man. They really are super nice. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to a chain and sprocket though.
I love the drive shaft.
Yes, I love all the history here
Hi there bike looking good man the new guy is going to love his new bike . The question is the front bars look like the will do the job well . I was wounding what at the name of the fully rap around bars . I think that will be my first purchase . Yes just a bomb proof bike that's what I am looking at . Look luck with the new GS .
Thanks for your comment. Are you asking about the ROX risers?
I wouldn’t call the GS an upgrade just because its bigger. Bigger isn’t always better though I’m European so I can understand that concept…! Haha
As you can see there are many other reasons not just engine size. Also the tech improvements that have happened over 8years is a big upgrade. If you want to hear the numerous upgrades you can watch my GS review.
Maybe that will close the gap in the story for you.
@@AmericanAbroad1 I think more technology is not necessarily an upgrade either.
Tech does not make up for lack of rider talent ...
@@andrewtaylor6410 sooo what do you consider an upgrade?
@@spangoz1000 very true. I like the tech for comfort reasons. I can have a comfy ride when I want for long stretches of highway or make the suspension more aggressive for twisties.
Also, cornering ABS is a big safety feature. Breaking power also is way better in the GS.
Of course many like a bare bones approach. I would love to try the T7 world raid if I wanted less tech.
Just make sure you have money for fixing the shaft drive and ABS on the Beemer. Front end suspension broke on my GS and I’m never going back to BMW
I found that on long trips, my girlfriend stays way more comfortable longer than my wife.😂
Can't wait for the GS !
Man I’m watching every day for the right one to come along.
Cornering ABS! Yes, I'll be switching my Tiger when a bike come with it around the same price range. I would have jumped on a TT 700 if it had it. For now I'm satisfied with my Tiger. Hope you're next bike checks all the boxes for you 🤞
Why these bikes don’t hold their value?
Probably a few factors; 1. Triumph was a huge brand back in the day with scrambler style bikes, but notorious for having issues.
2. British made. Land Rover is British made and also notorious for having mechanical issues.
But triumph has come a long way from its former glory and I believe they made phenomenal bikes.
Loads electrical problems imo
@@volt8684 Yes I have heard that in the 2022 models they had serious issues with the TFT screen.
Great reasons, all. I’m happy for you and hope the next adventure is even better! ... I just bought this bike in the 2016 model year 800 XR with factory cruise control. Will add heated grips. I am coming from a larger bike, a Yamaha super Tenere 1200. In my opinion, as fun it is to have the bigger bike and feel more planted with lower-down weight, the overall weight is substantial, agility decreases, and the number of times of carrying a pilion is very few. That was a deal breaker for me. I decided not to stick with it and preferred the smaller engine displacement of a midsize adventuring machine like the tiger. The GS of course is amazing, but cost of ownership is a concern, secondary market prices tend toward unrealistic. I hope you get a great deal on one, and ride the heck out of it, and form your own conclusions. Of course, having a 1200 AND an 800 would be the best of both worlds! Good to have goals, right?
Totally agree. I absolutely loved the time I spent on the Tenere 1200es. It’s like a budget GS that’s got better reliability. I believe if I have a newer Tiger I may not make the change at all. The trips I have done on the GS have just sold me on power and comfort. Also, the maneuverability, but I haven’t “lived” with one before. So let’s see.
If I jump ship from a BMW it would be back to Triumph for sure. Thanks for ur comment. I always enjoy peoples perspectives. Stay in touch
how old are you - 15?
Do not agree of what you are saying....Please comme back with the BMW and tell us if you are hapier......
Dude…. Best decision of my life. GS all the way.
Doesnt look right without a beak!
They are dual purpose bikes..gs its just a damn sofa heavy..too heavy for off road..max at 200kg it should be..real enduro are about 150kg ..those who buy bmw gs ride it on road..on road i would buy something else..only ktm and triumph are spot on dual bikes
100% agree. I used to race motocross and I really don’t wanna go off road on anything other than a dirtbike. Not fun with something so heavy. Plus if it falls it’s not going to crush you.
I can do light gravel on the GS but road is where it shines
@@AmericanAbroad1 a friend in eu trip..he fell from his gs1200 in a deep mud for 2 days..he couldn't take her off him ..his friends was looking for him they found him just before started rain...350kg with all bags and bs..a wr450 new is 9k for me the best enduro
@@commantrosexetlos4700 case in point. That’s a scary cautionary tail. Always ride with a buddy.
@@AmericanAbroad1 he was but he started with delay to catch them..the rain would be his end...she fell on him and the mud was deep on the side of the road..scary
His wife made him sell it.
Why not buy a tiger 1200 instead of the arch enemy BMW?
The GS has always been a dream. I haven’t riden a new 1200 yet. I have riden a 2021 1200 and it’s definitely a great bike. I would love to try the new tiger, but the screen along with some other features kept it out of my sightline.
Bom dia
Bom dia
Pretty lame reasons. .