@@nunyabizz50 That says more about you than anything. Do you have taste buds dawg? Can you smell? Even non-wine drinkers cam taste a difference between 2 buck chuck and a 10$ wine, 2 buck chuck is gross
@@stevedecklin I'm a non-wine drinker with a very very sharp sense of taste and smell. I find most wines gross. They overwhelm me with dryness and tannins. The few that I can tolerate at all are much closer to a 2 buck chuck than anything fancy. So a high-priced wine doesn't impress me at all.
@@DianeGraft What your personal preferences or amount of taste buds you have isn't really what it's about. Wine tasting is more objective where there really isn't any "I like or dislike". It's about talking about the wine for what it is. Taste is subjective but there is an objective system where quality has been decided based on the factors he talks about in this video. If you have a sharp sense of taste or smell as you describe it you might be what the industry call a Monroe (or a super taster). There are basically three types of tasters (I can't remember them all in my head) and Monroe is the most sensitive aka you have more taste buds than the average person. That would mean you lean towards simpler foods without alot of acid, bitterness or spice and you prefer sweet things.
As an italian sommelier, I like your videos a lot! This one particularly is one of my favorite: your explanation about how the zone can impact the price of a wine bottle is perfect, related also to France or burgundy in particular. Thanks for sharing! Mattia
I would love to see Andre doing a blind test (where he is guessing places/varietals/price ranges)! Not that Andre isn’t super authentic, but brains play strange tricks, even for experts. That will be fun to watch!!
You should watch some of Wine King’s videos. Him and his guests are true experts that frequently do blind tastings and frequently guess wines down to a specific region or vineyard
I recently started working in a store that sells loads of different wines (among other alcoholic beverages) and this kind of content has been a great help to get a lot of accessible and easy to understand information. It’s definitely helped get me a foundation to build my knowledge on! Big props to Andre and Bon Appetit for the quality content!
Andre is such an outstanding host! Speaking so passionately about something and at a level that most people can understand is so hard to find. Thank you!
The video title doesn't really explain the value of what he covered here, this was so much more than a simple tasting. Great overview explanation of why wines have different price points.
I feel the same. scarcity rather than "taste" matters to expensive wines--people are paying for fine vintages, reputable producers, and finally rare wines.
lead and manure you can smell though. polished is not a smell, but it is a valid descriptor. i agree, i have no issue with any words that help describe the taste and paint a picture
I'm a French>English translator and interpreter interested in specialising in wine (a pretty big market in my language combination!) and these videos are such an entertaining and informative way to get a sense of what people talk about when they talk about wine, and the way they do. Thanks BA and thanks André!
Yeah, I don't drink either. But a lot of the approaches he uses for wine I find are transferable to cigars, which are my thing, so I always like to hear what makes a wine, or whisk(e)y, scotch, bourbon, et cetera stand out. Also because it helps my cigar recommendations to clients without having to force myself to taste test wines or spirits that I feel would bigot my opinion on any pairing.
Andre has made wine so much more accessible to me. He makes me want to learn more about wine. I refer back to what I’ve learned in these videos, when I’m wine shopping.
Random, but Diamond Creek is an absolutely amazing vineyard to do a private tour with a small group. It’s a little pricy depending on your budget, but so intimate and personal, I highly recommend. They drive you through the vineyard and talk you through the different geographical regions they own and the differences that come through in each of the wines they make. Absolutely incredible vineyard and the wine is well worth it!
Since I’ve started watching Andre’s videos I’ve been getting into red wines and I’m a few weeks in. So far my opinion is that beyond $30 there’s really no point to spend more unless you’re going really vintage because otherwise the differences are so subtle and $30 will get you a quality wine 9/10 times.
There are studies reflecting a correlation that you just outlined perfectly! The perfect cross between value and quality for most wine consumers are bottles in the $25-40 price range. The quality of wine perceived by consumers really levels out after that, and the quality before hitting that range can vary wildly. It's very interesting, and can go to show that while marketing doesn't have the hold it once did, as André explained, the factual price of the bottle definitely still has a hold on perception of quality. And unless you're actively training your palate and working on wine certification, splurging on more expensive bottles is just spending money because you can. Drinking to enjoy and tasting to learn and dissect are not at all the same thing.
For 99% of people there's definitely a pretty extreme diminishing return over $30-40. Particularly if you're willing to explore some less well known regions or varietals you can get fantastic wine for $15-25.
@@projectflip6765 Agreed on all counts, whenever customers come into my store looking for killer value wines, I point them to Portuguese and Spanish wines, great flavor on a shoestring budget.
Talking about the labels the "steady state" actually looks like the most expensive one. The more pictures and crazy fonts they use the more tacky and cheap they look in my opinion.
I was thinking that Red Rock Terrace wine would be pretty rough given it's Cabernet aged in 100% new french oak. It would need another 10 years to mellow out. I think drinking the sidekick now would actually taste better than the expensive one now.
That was a great talk I think you expressed so much that gets passed so many who are trying to learn about wines. Things I had to discover the hard way simply put in the description of your points added up quick Thanks
I like hearing you talk about the education side of wine. You make it easily digestible, fun, and enjoyable. Thank you. I also never know what wine to buy and some of my blind buys have been an epic fail. I am definitely going to try the ones in your video. Thanks again!
No mention of closures - I do find cheaper wines (which can be great value) use screw-tops. Then you have the composite (glued chips) corks and then real cork. While never 100% - many expensive New World wines with good reputations can use whatever closure they prefer - I think there is a subconscious correlation among consumers. Certainly when buying wine in a supermarket it holds pretty true
Love this series! Please review Italian wines! They are far more affordable (they own the vineyards), have unique characteristics, and have their own signature. It would be great to see a Global review-Italian, Australian, Chilean, etc. Please!
I would think that real estate values would (ironically) be more of a factor in lower cost wines than higher cost. For example, a low-end Napa cab might go for $40 or $50 - that has to be almost entirely due to real estate. At the other extreme you have grand cru burgundies going for thousands a bottle in a region where, as he said, the land has long been paid for. So the huge price can't possibly be due to real estate costs, it's entirely based on the reputation of the producer and terroir.
André is so good, and I respect him so much. I know just enough to be sure he's right. He inspires me to learn more. André! Produce a RUclips training series for the aspiring oenologist and charge $500, $600 bucks a pop! I'll spring for it.
Great vid! Super concentrated, easy to understand and fun. A lifetime of wine questions answered in a short time. Very smart and down-to-earth expert and a cool guy. Thank you.
I typically swirl the glass and look at the legs to see the quality of the tannins. I also use bread 🥖 to clean the palate before switching. Not sure if you got into this but aging a wine goes along way, even for an everyday wine. Lastly, the label may read vinted or produced as an indication of the quality along with the alcohol ABV. Higher is not necessarily better. I went to school in San Luis Obispo so I’m a hack-wine aficionado. Good Video 👍 The Steady State wine that is 40% aged in new oak barrels is a limited run, a reserve wine or more of a premier club of the month wine?
Andre... Don't sleep on Texas wine. come out and visit Perissos Vineyards. It would be our great pleasure to host you and show you the goodness that exists in this great state.
Just to compare, in Croatia you can buy really good Croatian wine for 10-20€. Some wines between 20 and 50€ are just mind blowing. Also, two or three years ago, before the inflation, I heard you could get really great wine in France for 2-5€. I don't know it that's true though.
There are wines that pair well with food, there are wines that are made to drink without food, it’s very hard to find wines that do both! For example, Caymus, Quilt and the like drink well alone but do not pair well with food! Why? Because they overpower the food and are devoid of tannins that cleans your palate and enhance food flavors. Try a BV Tapestry to pair with food or drink as a stand alone. Wines are complex and the new generation of winemakers tend to overdue wines with heavy vanilla tones that override food flavors!
I love watching this video ad Budtender in Canada. The way he describes the smell and taste sounds so weird to me when it comes to alcohol, like who wants to taste lead ?! But then i remember i tell people "this stuff is so gassy 🤤" and they look at me like a psycho. To each there own lmao !!
Also, I would add “Ethics”: how much farmers and winemaker care about their soils, their grapes and their wines has a huge impact on costs and therefore price
When I lived in Napa, I had a lot friends and neighbors who worked at wineries, including Stags Leap and Coppola. They all said the main difference between a $10 bottle and $200 bottle is the price.
I would love some Spanish wines. For some reason they don't get a lot of love in the States. Rioja and Ribera del Duero are AMAZING wine regions, probably in the top 5 in Europe if not the world.
Shoutout to André for teaching us about the art, history, culture, and science behind wine. How do I like this video twice?
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Using this comment for André appreciation. I would do anything for this man
Finally more of my favourite Bon Appétit show. Love André.
He doesn't slurp the wine enough.........
I think a really compelling video would be having him blind taste these wines and rank them accordingly independent of price.
I can virtually guarantee i could replace the wine in that $300 bottle with $2 buck chuck and 8 out 10 wouldn't tell the difference.
@@nunyabizz50 That says more about you than anything. Do you have taste buds dawg? Can you smell? Even non-wine drinkers cam taste a difference between 2 buck chuck and a 10$ wine, 2 buck chuck is gross
@@stevedecklin I'm a non-wine drinker with a very very sharp sense of taste and smell. I find most wines gross. They overwhelm me with dryness and tannins. The few that I can tolerate at all are much closer to a 2 buck chuck than anything fancy. So a high-priced wine doesn't impress me at all.
@@DianeGraft so your taste buds are bad then
@@DianeGraft What your personal preferences or amount of taste buds you have isn't really what it's about. Wine tasting is more objective where there really isn't any "I like or dislike". It's about talking about the wine for what it is. Taste is subjective but there is an objective system where quality has been decided based on the factors he talks about in this video.
If you have a sharp sense of taste or smell as you describe it you might be what the industry call a Monroe (or a super taster). There are basically three types of tasters (I can't remember them all in my head) and Monroe is the most sensitive aka you have more taste buds than the average person. That would mean you lean towards simpler foods without alot of acid, bitterness or spice and you prefer sweet things.
Every time I watch one of these I have to go out and buy a bottle of wine. Every...bloody...time, haha.
It does get expensive after a while 🤣
As an italian sommelier, I like your videos a lot! This one particularly is one of my favorite: your explanation about how the zone can impact the price of a wine bottle is perfect, related also to France or burgundy in particular. Thanks for sharing!
Mattia
I would love to see Andre doing a blind test (where he is guessing places/varietals/price ranges)! Not that Andre isn’t super authentic, but brains play strange tricks, even for experts. That will be fun to watch!!
You should watch some of Wine King’s videos. Him and his guests are true experts that frequently do blind tastings and frequently guess wines down to a specific region or vineyard
@@TraceurRyuk Second this! Wine King is fantastic
I'm definitely not skilled to zeroing into to a specific vineyard, at least not yet.. that's mega impressive to me.
@@TraceurRyuk Yes! I love wineking, him and Peter are the real deal
I recently started working in a store that sells loads of different wines (among other alcoholic beverages) and this kind of content has been a great help to get a lot of accessible and easy to understand information. It’s definitely helped get me a foundation to build my knowledge on!
Big props to Andre and Bon Appetit for the quality content!
I could listen to André talk about wine for hours! Awesome as usual.
Demystifying the world of wine in layman terms one great video at a time - keep them coming!
Andre is such an outstanding host! Speaking so passionately about something and at a level that most people can understand is so hard to find. Thank you!
The video title doesn't really explain the value of what he covered here, this was so much more than a simple tasting. Great overview explanation of why wines have different price points.
I feel the same. scarcity rather than "taste" matters to expensive wines--people are paying for fine vintages, reputable producers, and finally rare wines.
If ‘lead’ and ‘manure’ can be wine terms, then so can ‘polished’
you're right. that opens a lot of doors to new descriptors
lead and manure you can smell though. polished is not a smell, but it is a valid descriptor. i agree, i have no issue with any words that help describe the taste and paint a picture
@@sommelierofstench - like ‘sharp’ or ‘bright’, which have been accepted descriptors for a while now. 😁
I'm a French>English translator and interpreter interested in specialising in wine (a pretty big market in my language combination!) and these videos are such an entertaining and informative way to get a sense of what people talk about when they talk about wine, and the way they do. Thanks BA and thanks André!
Andre is the single reason why I consider buying more expensive wines. His level of knowledge and easy to understand logic is just *chefs kiss*.
Mmmm I love me some pencil
I was having a bad day but then Andre appeared on my youtube feed and made everything better.
I always click on his videos when they pop up in my notifications. I don't even drink wine, but he makes me wish I did.
Yeah, I don't drink either. But a lot of the approaches he uses for wine I find are transferable to cigars, which are my thing, so I always like to hear what makes a wine, or whisk(e)y, scotch, bourbon, et cetera stand out. Also because it helps my cigar recommendations to clients without having to force myself to taste test wines or spirits that I feel would bigot my opinion on any pairing.
Andre has made wine so much more accessible to me. He makes me want to learn more about wine. I refer back to what I’ve learned in these videos, when I’m wine shopping.
Another great video by Andre. Super cool guy, mellow not pretentious, educating. Please do a show on Roseeeeeeee
Andre Mack needs his own show. Just do it. This gentleman is a wizard.
Random, but Diamond Creek is an absolutely amazing vineyard to do a private tour with a small group. It’s a little pricy depending on your budget, but so intimate and personal, I highly recommend. They drive you through the vineyard and talk you through the different geographical regions they own and the differences that come through in each of the wines they make. Absolutely incredible vineyard and the wine is well worth it!
André: "You know how I like my manure".
George Costanza has joined the chat.
Since I’ve started watching Andre’s videos I’ve been getting into red wines and I’m a few weeks in. So far my opinion is that beyond $30 there’s really no point to spend more unless you’re going really vintage because otherwise the differences are so subtle and $30 will get you a quality wine 9/10 times.
There are studies reflecting a correlation that you just outlined perfectly! The perfect cross between value and quality for most wine consumers are bottles in the $25-40 price range. The quality of wine perceived by consumers really levels out after that, and the quality before hitting that range can vary wildly. It's very interesting, and can go to show that while marketing doesn't have the hold it once did, as André explained, the factual price of the bottle definitely still has a hold on perception of quality. And unless you're actively training your palate and working on wine certification, splurging on more expensive bottles is just spending money because you can. Drinking to enjoy and tasting to learn and dissect are not at all the same thing.
For 99% of people there's definitely a pretty extreme diminishing return over $30-40. Particularly if you're willing to explore some less well known regions or varietals you can get fantastic wine for $15-25.
@@katiemasters3473 I have to agree with you, in Portugal we can drink a really nice wine for 15/20 euros.
@@andrefilipe726 I just had a $12 bottle of Douro that was delicious
@@projectflip6765 Agreed on all counts, whenever customers come into my store looking for killer value wines, I point them to Portuguese and Spanish wines, great flavor on a shoestring budget.
Ah yes, my favorite flavors in any drink, graphite and pencil...
I love that you’ve got a bottle of Altos las Hormigas, the great Argentine wine made by Antonini. Saludos Mr Mack
Talking about the labels the "steady state" actually looks like the most expensive one. The more pictures and crazy fonts they use the more tacky and cheap they look in my opinion.
I want that opener he used...... Always love your video BA with André Mack.
Please post where I can buy that opener
@@marcosbonfante7451 I have never seen one like that as well.
It's over $100. Called Le Sable Waiter's Corkscrew.
@@FloridaSoundsGood thanks!
I was thinking that Red Rock Terrace wine would be pretty rough given it's Cabernet aged in 100% new french oak. It would need another 10 years to mellow out. I think drinking the sidekick now would actually taste better than the expensive one now.
That was a great talk
I think you expressed so much that gets passed so many who are trying to learn about wines.
Things I had to discover the hard way simply put in the description of your points added up quick
Thanks
0:47 “Cabernet Sauvignon is the king of grape varietals.”
Burgundy: “I’d like a minute for rebuttal.”
Pomerol: “Yeah, and when you’re done…”
the down to earth honesty is very refreshing
I like hearing you talk about the education side of wine. You make it easily digestible, fun, and enjoyable. Thank you. I also never know what wine to buy and some of my blind buys have been an epic fail. I am definitely going to try the ones in your video. Thanks again!
I literally come to this channel just for his videos! I don't like wine, I just like watching him teach!
Thought it was just me
No mention of closures - I do find cheaper wines (which can be great value) use screw-tops. Then you have the composite (glued chips) corks and then real cork. While never 100% - many expensive New World wines with good reputations can use whatever closure they prefer - I think there is a subconscious correlation among consumers. Certainly when buying wine in a supermarket it holds pretty true
Can you do a Trader Joe's edition, where you only do review and ranking of Trader Joe's wines?
I enjoy a nice bottle of Merlot great info !
This video in particular is very informative. It's one of the best I've seen.
I’ve been avoiding Napa wines because of the cost. It’s made the great European ones more affordable again.
The increase in Burgundy wine is higher than any other wine. Good US wine are still very accessible
Diamond creek is awesome. I was able to do a horizontal tasting with their different micro climate wines and found it fascinating
In Argentina you can get same quality of wines for fractions of those prices.
Love this series! Please review Italian wines! They are far more affordable (they own the vineyards), have unique characteristics, and have their own signature. It would be great to see a Global review-Italian, Australian, Chilean, etc. Please!
Get this guy his own show…..awesome!
Love seeing more Andre content. The man was made to host and educate. Keep it up!
Thanks for such an informative video. Makes me want to go up in price point a little more often..
I really believe this dude and these videos are creating a lot of wine fans in a non-douchey way. Certainly giving me a whole new passion
I would think that real estate values would (ironically) be more of a factor in lower cost wines than higher cost. For example, a low-end Napa cab might go for $40 or $50 - that has to be almost entirely due to real estate. At the other extreme you have grand cru burgundies going for thousands a bottle in a region where, as he said, the land has long been paid for. So the huge price can't possibly be due to real estate costs, it's entirely based on the reputation of the producer and terroir.
Meanwhile I’m over here drinking my $2.95 Walmart oak leaf living my best life
Trying to determine where my under $5 wines fit in the whole scheme of things. I Love my wines as well as Andre's expertise.
Need that wine opener
I could listen to you sharing your knowledge with us the whole day 🤩🤩🤩🤩
3:53 anyone know what brand this corkscrew is? I need one😅
André is so good, and I respect him so much. I know just enough to be sure he's right.
He inspires me to learn more.
André! Produce a RUclips training series for the aspiring oenologist and charge $500, $600 bucks a pop! I'll spring for it.
Great vid! Super concentrated, easy to understand and fun. A lifetime of wine questions answered in a short time. Very smart and down-to-earth expert and a cool guy. Thank you.
This is very educational.
I LIKE A SENSE OF PLACE IN THE WINE
Great video as always.
I think it would be cool to see a Brad and Andre collab.
No kidding, i ran the bottling crew that bottled the sidekick! very fun!
That wine opener is clutch. Very informative video as usual. Always a learning experience.
Do you know which it is?
@@niickyrozay no I don't. I wish I did. Plz plug it if you find out. Just admiring.
@@niickyrozay LE SABLE WAITER'S CORKSCREW
I typically swirl the glass and look at the legs to see the quality of the tannins. I also use bread 🥖 to clean the palate before switching. Not sure if you got into this but aging a wine goes along way, even for an everyday wine. Lastly, the label may read vinted or produced as an indication of the quality along with the alcohol ABV. Higher is not necessarily better. I went to school in San Luis Obispo so I’m a hack-wine aficionado. Good Video 👍
The Steady State wine that is 40% aged in new oak barrels is a limited run, a reserve wine or more of a premier club of the month wine?
The fact that pencil is a wine term is hilarious 😂
I'm fortunate to know a winery called calais winery in texas that makes wine like Diamond Creek, but for a fraction of the cost.
Very informative. Thank you for making this RUclips. By the way, if you don’t mind, can you share where you bought the wine opener? 😊👍🏼
Yo $18 for a bottle is still pricey to me 😂
I am a simple man, if I see a new Andre video, I watch it.
”I smell a little lead” 2:40 there’s a premium for lead in your wine?
Literally every video is a lesson about wine. Keep them coming!
Total Wine has great descriptions on their shelves. I want to taste the soil, leather, spices, vanilla for my reds. I avoid the berry bombs.
Blind taste, true results, loved the video!
Region, vineyard, aging / barrel storage, reputation, marketing
Andre... Don't sleep on Texas wine. come out and visit Perissos Vineyards. It would be our great pleasure to host you and show you the goodness that exists in this great state.
I love Castillo Ygay Gran Reserva Especial, its a really good wine
Rumour Has It sidekick vineyards are going to start using words like “wet soil” and “pencil shavings” in the back of the bottle description
Just to compare, in Croatia you can buy really good Croatian wine for 10-20€. Some wines between 20 and 50€ are just mind blowing.
Also, two or three years ago, before the inflation, I heard you could get really great wine in France for 2-5€. I don't know it that's true though.
Great crash Course in Wine! Cheers!
There are wines that pair well with food, there are wines that are made to drink without food, it’s very hard to find wines that do both! For example, Caymus, Quilt and the like drink well alone but do not pair well with food! Why? Because they overpower the food and are devoid of tannins that cleans your palate and enhance food flavors. Try a BV Tapestry to pair with food or drink as a stand alone. Wines are complex and the new generation of winemakers tend to overdue wines with heavy vanilla tones that override food flavors!
Where can I purchase that tasting glass? Love it
Unbelievable education, condensed into digestible tasty morsels. Thank you, kind sir.
I don't drink wine, but I like his take on what makes things good or not!
Mmmm lead,pencil shavings and manure you are really selling me on the expensive ones
I love watching this video ad Budtender in Canada. The way he describes the smell and taste sounds so weird to me when it comes to alcohol, like who wants to taste lead ?! But then i remember i tell people "this stuff is so gassy 🤤" and they look at me like a psycho. To each there own lmao !!
Can you do a video about which wines age well and which don't.
Just great, clear information! Really enjoy your videos! Cheers!
Any idea what that stepped hinge corkscrew he used?
Tried Steady State on a whim visiting Costco, I’m generally a white wine guy…such a delicious wine
Need more Andre content!
Andre is easily top 3 Soms on RUclips
I've been trying to like wine because my in laws only recreational activity is going to wineries. I still don't like wine but I love this show.
Some of the best informative wine videos on RUclips.
Andre back with anothaaaaa banger!!!
Wait what... as someone who knows nothing about wine, 'manure' and 'lead' sound very concerning when attributed to something you consume lol
Best series on RUclips
I think we have different scales. For me cheap wine is (well) below 5$, in the range 1-3$. 4-10$ is mid range. And anything above 10$ is expensive
Always love these!! Also, what kind of wine key is that with the channel local feature???
LEAD...yum
Ahhhhhh the Diamond Creek!!!!
Also, I would add “Ethics”: how much farmers and winemaker care about their soils, their grapes and their wines has a huge impact on costs and therefore price
When I lived in Napa, I had a lot friends and neighbors who worked at wineries, including Stags Leap and Coppola. They all said the main difference between a $10 bottle and $200 bottle is the price.
Lol I believe it
Thanks, I enjoyed your breakdowns of the wines.
I would love some Spanish wines. For some reason they don't get a lot of love in the States. Rioja and Ribera del Duero are AMAZING wine regions, probably in the top 5 in Europe if not the world.
I have fond if slightly hazy memories of 2 Buck Chuck
He's the best of new members. Actual personality instead of tokenism.