How to Train the Predator in Your Home: A Guide to the Predatory Sequence
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
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Welcome to an enlightening exploration of predation substitute training in dogs, a subject as intriguing as it is essential for modern dog guardianship.
This video delves into the natural predatory sequence in dogs, uncovering the often misunderstood instincts that drive our canine friends. By tapping into these instincts, we present a humane and scientific approach to channeling and managing your dog’s natural behaviors.
Our techniques emphasize understanding, empathy, and positive reinforcement. We’ll guide you through recognizing the signs of predatory behavior and teaching alternatives that satisfy both you and your dog. Our strategies cater to dogs of all ages and temperaments, from the eager puppy to the experienced hunter.
Whether you’re facing challenges with chasing, stalking, or other predatory actions, this video provides a comprehensive toolkit that respects the inherent nature of your dog. Learn how to cultivate a trustful relationship, encourage acceptable behaviors, and enrich your connection with your canine companion.
Join us on this journey into the world of dog predation behavior. Equip yourself with the knowledge and skills to ensure a harmonious living environment and a fulfilled, happy dog. With evidence-backed principles and hands-on examples, this video will be a valuable resource for beginners and professionals alike.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 intro
0:16 Tip #1
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1:01 Has this happened to you?
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1:52 The Predatory Sequence explained!
3:46 How to recognize early signs of predation
5:45 Practical training techniques you can use right now!
6:12 Take a walk and train with me and Inertia
7:22 If your dog is WAY WORSE than this…
7:51 The most important thing
8:07 How to Train Your Dog to STOP CHASING EVERYTHING
9:19 What to Do if You See a Trigger
10:53 How This Works! 
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Update on Ace - I have gotten him involved in playing some of the games ruclips.net/user/postUgkxECnmSvBSv_NGWx4_ChD73pF3NYZwI2F3 and I can see a difference in his confidence already! My other dog played along and he became intrigued - now its a daily part of our routine - about 3 times a day we do the shell game and the muffin tin game. I am so grateful for coming upon your training techniques!
I have only ever had one dog who had a predatory reaction to another animal. He was a GSD who I rescued when he was a year old so the first time I was walking him when he saw a squirrel, I ended up flat on the ground.
He had also been taught to attack people on the command “kill”. After I discovered that, I used a Halti on him. You may be surprised at how many children point at someone and say “kill” when they see a GSD.
this is such a bs post its remarkable
We mimic the bite/kill sequence with rough games of tug, and the dissect sequence with chewing-we do not put a limit on his chewing and always have appropriate chews on hand. Our pup doesn't usually get into fetch, despite our best efforts, but this summer he learned to swim. We've noticed he really enjoys chasing sticks into the water, in particular, while he'll forego balls (leaving them in the middle of the pond). Lately, we've been going through the full sequence, from start to finish, with sticks. He fixates on the stick on land, chases it down into the water, then brings it back to shore, finds a shady spot and destroys it. He's an anxious and reactive dog, and it's such a calming and fulfilling experience for him!
I have a 3 yo Bel Mal mix (who looks like a border collie) w/very high prey drive. Spirit Dog Training has been helpful. This video helped me to break down some of my dog’s behaviors and understand your other training videos better. Thank you!
Thanks for another great video on this subject! Learning how my puppy is wired is so important in understanding his needs and how to incorporate this into his training !
Yay, Simone! This is a x-over that makes me very happy for the future of dog training!
When I think of Zak George and the way he so generously shows real life situations with his own dog or rescue dogs in order to illustrate a training scenario........LOVE IS THE WAY I WALK IN GRATITUDE !
I have been WAITING for u to make a video of this. Thank you so much! I already have a plan based of this for my dog and its insane prey drive!
Thanks Zak, I’ve been waiting for this video. My cute little Alaskan Klee, Carter is the sweetest but completes the sequence in full.
He is very smart, so fetch he gets bored with easily even if I’m running and being animated.
His strong suite is agility, so jumping in the air catching a bird midair while on a leash happens so fast. It blows my mind.
I’m going to start looking for the early signs and see if I can get him to disengage.
Thank you! I have been working on this with my husky shepherd mix, so this really helps fine tune it! Greatly appreciate your work!!
THANK YOU for this video!!!! So good!
Thank you thank you thank you!! I have a foster dog right now with literally the strongest prey drive I have ever encountered in my life. It’s very intense and while she’s thankfully not big enough to take me down, she would literally injure herself trying to go after them if I didn’t have her on a short leash and sturdy harness.
I suspect that was why she was surrendered at the shelter (they put their reason for surrendering down as her being “difficult to contain”). She’s so sweet and well-behaved when it comes to everything else so hopefully this will help me get her to a point where I’m not worried she’ll injure herself every time she sees a bunny and will god-willing help her get adopted. Thank you so much!!
Fabulous as always Zak
Thank you so much for this! I just adopted my first dog, a 9 year-old lab mix, and I've been having some trouble introducing him to our cats because he wants to chase them. I'm not sure whether or not he wants to hurt them or just play, but I haven't given him the opportunity to find that out. I'm very new to owning dogs and training them and your videos are helping me out immeasurably! I sincerely hope I can help redirect his prey drive and teach him that the cats are friends and not fun new toys that run around because he is an amazing dog otherwise.
Thanks for this! My dog is definitely a chaser, so we will be working on getting those needs met elsewhere.
This is so helpful! Thank you!
Great video on a very interesting topic and frequent dog training issue.
Thanks, I just sent this to a family that adopted one of my foster dogs!
I've known bits and pieces of this, but it's great to have a comprehensive overview
Also, I will use two strategies to help a dog who might be a bit over threshold to focus on me:
1. "Okay" as a command to leave it alone, start training it with breaking focus from smells, etc.
2. Use a short leash and turn around to break the Eyeing portion of the sequence (usually at this point the dog is in the creep portion)
Zach George is a garbage dog trainer. I followed his methods For a year and my dog. Bit a 10 year old boy Instead Go to a balanced dog trainer like American standard canine training.
Great video and brilliant explanation, will be trying this out with my 14 month old golden retriever as disengagement from certain things is really tough for him.
Great video,thanks! This was something that my wife and I were wondering about trying to fix.
This is super interesting and makes a ton of sense, definitely something I’ll be keeping in mind when working with dogs in the future!
So glad to hear it!
Hi Zak! Thank you so much. I am just two weeks away from getting my third aussie puppy. 25 years with an Australian shepherd by my side. So I’ve been binge watching your channel. I just adore your style of training. I never hear you say No. Your style of training is really relying on the owner’s intelligence and sensitivity. I like it a lot. I really like you and Bree or Brie ( sorry i am french, not sure how to spell her name). Yoir videos are a great refresher course!! I know you cannot answer every question but.. i will take a chance here. My aussie Dexter, he was only 10, died suddenly 10 days ago. Sunday evening we are jogging our usual 5k and the next morning around 10 am we had to put him down. It was horrible. I am still grieving. I feel very raw and i am still crying a lot. It was so unexpected… 😢 The new aussie puppy from the same breeder is coming in two weeks. I am worried that the grief i am feeling will affect how i welcome the puppy. I feel like i am not ready emotionally. But the breeder is a real good breeder and i do not want to loose this chance. I am actually crying right now.. i do not want to do bad with the puppy. Please, tell me what i should be careful of. I do not want this grief to affect the way i welcome and train this new puppy who deserves someone who is totally present and in the moment. Please, any advice will be the most welcome. I miss my companion so much. I have never felt grief like this.
Sorry to hear about your dog passing away so suddenly. I hope that you bond well with your new puppy
This type of video works much better for me, understanding the steps in the process
This was so interesting. We learned about this kind of reflex in my behavioral neuroscience class, but we did animals other than dogs. It's fascinating how the reflex works. Your approach of giving dogs the opportunity to experience parts of the sequence safely and appropriately is great - animals need to be able to engage in behaviors they were evolved to perform.
Great video!
Thanks Zak for another great video! I always learn so much. I also have a question. When I walk my dogs, I tell them to leave it when I see their ears perk up or they look that direction. This has worked great when they're on the leash, but when they aren't, they don't listen. I will definitely change to doing this, but do you think over time this method will help with that behaivor? Or is there something I should be doing? Again, love your videos!
Really useful video. Thanks!
Our pleasure!
My 10-mo old Leonberger/poodle pup has always been very alert to any change or movement in her surroundings, but she is showing increasing predatory signs lately that concern me: getting rougher when wrestling with smaller (40-lb) dog we dogsit for, constantly stalking resident cats (although she also wants to play). I will start including more of these tips in our training, as she’s gotten to big to manage if she tries to give chase.
Oh she will learn to stay away from the cats. My dog is huge and the first time he tried to play with my cat he ended up crying behind me while I was vacuuming until I turned it off to see what was wrong. He was scratched across the chest and inner leg. I think his feelings were hurt more than anything..
You broke this down in a way I never considered. While I know timing is key, if I can capture her natural disengagement she'll still enjoy herself. Thank you! She's generally a great dog, but I still have some issues with fearfulness. I know you can't train out fearfulness, but you can teach them alternative ways to respond to 'scary' things. Mostly, I want her to sit and lean on me which communicates she is uncomfortable. Is that feasible?
Thanks Zac. Can you create a video to train the dog be calm at the airport and plane?
Thank you for the video on predatory behavior. I've enjoyed all of your videos on this and unwanted barking behavior. If you have a chance and the material, could you put together a video on this same topic, but how to handle the drive (and barking) when walking in a neighborhood? One of my dogs goes crazy, barking and lunging, when we are walking around the block and a dog suddenly starts barking from behind a fence. It's not something you can see in advance from a distance (unless I know which houses have a dog). I cannot get her attention on me until we are a few houses away. She is still turning around, growling, wanting to go back. She's always on alert waiting for the next encounter. I just get her calmed down and a cat or squirrel will appear. I've tried different streets around our house, but there are a lot of dogs and we are overrun with feral cats. Needless to say, our walks are always noisy and I don't really look forward to them much.
Hey Zak, you're on a roll with these videos that edify and elucidate!
What do you do with a dog that forgets you exist the moment you step outside? All the dogs you show at least minimally look back at you and take treats so you can reinforce the behavior you want. Mine really doesn't know I exist when we go out for walks. Doesn't care about the treats I offer. She's always on the lookout for squirrels/rabbits/cats. If she looks back toward me, it's to look around me like I'm an object in her way. She ignores any treats I try to bait her with to get her attention. It's exhausting to be dragged around the neighborhood for 20 minutes before she'll finally slow down a bit, and only then can I sometimes get her attention. In the house, she will focus on me and not leave me when she knows I have the treat bag with me, she'll come when called from another room (even when she was busy looking out the window for squirrels) and do all sorts of things for the treats, but put on a leash and go outside... forget it.
do you play with your dog? engaging in play with your dog is a great way to work on your relationship.
Love these science based information filled videos. Since I have been watching Zak, I have learned how to reward observed good behavior. The dog we have now is a dream dog. So well behaved and happy even the vet comments on it.
Love this!👍👍
It was just mentioned on Toronto local news that Toronto’s leash laws state that leashes can’t be longer than 6 feet. That means long lines are illegal in public areas. I’d love to know your take on that Zak? I would think the best way to do it anyway is to do long line in a park at times when few people are around.
Science based training is the worst thing for dogs it's like the idiots who make their dog a vegan
@@barryhancock9558 Science says dogs need meat but you call science based trainers are idiots? Pronouncement with no science or proof of any kind just your opinion. You just might be the idiot.
@@barryhancock9558do you even know what science based means?? Clearly not
I so needed this. My dog is driving me nuts😢
This reminds me that the kill aspect been breed out from the border collie to use it as a shepherd dog.
My BC from time to time enjoy to chase birds, but on command. He like to see them . One time one did not flew and he stop in front of it giving it the eye… and got bored and came back a bit confused in why did that bird did not flew
Excited to try this with my lurcher - rescued Greyhound/Irish Wolfhound cross with a VERY high prey drive. I've made a lot of progress with him, but he still occasionally sets off when he see something small and furry (particularly Rabbits) he really likes at a long distance.
Both Greyhounds and Irish Wolfhounds are sight hounds and many have a heightened prey drive, so I'm not surprised your dog has a higher prey drive. He may really enjoy lure coursing if they have that near where you live. He gets to go through many steps in the prey sequence in a safe manner (and the lure is a piece of cloth, so no other animals are harmed). Our Wolfhounds really loved lure coursing (and a 185-pound large male Wolfhound running flat out is a real sight to behold).
@@janhankins911 Great idea, thanks for the suggestion! I always found it interesting that he loses interest in traditional "fetch" type games very quickly - needs something to chase, this looks perfect!
@@Mankey1234 Hope he'll enjoy it and it will help!
years ago I explained this to my kid he was 6, our dog was 110 pounds. Using this information the 45 pound kid was able to keep the dog from starting the sequence and could walk the dog along a nature trail with lots of squirrels safely. So I'm going say this works! It can even work on farm dogs that are ratters they can be taught what is prey and for example chickens are off limits
Great video. Love it!! Somehow I am blessed with a German shepherd who has zero prey drive towards live animals. But my last dog had a huge prey drive and wanted to hunt every prey animal he saw! This vid is great and informative I enjoyed it very much
Thank you. So true that every dog is different!
This is all well and good but my dog hates fetch. But he does love chasing everything on walks or the backyard lol
We "count" bunnies - they are all over my neighborhood and we just spot them and we sneak up , but then the bunnies run when my dof tries to run. Then i say " that's one bunny, lets go find another one" and he willingly moves on to find another bunny.
My rescue shepherd has high prey drive and is reactive. It was compounded by being hit by the previous owner's snowmobile who I believe chased him to burn off his energy. With his leg broken he spent months in a crate after recovering. Your suggestions have been very helpful about play first train second. I am having a problem however. When I let him off leash and throw his ball for him to catch it increases his behavior of lunging at dogs. If I just take his ball and kick it along a few feet for him to catch it calms him down and he pays little attention to other dogs. Do you have any thoughts? Thank you
A great philosophy we often forget: We're living with our dogs, not dominating and subjugating them, what's the purpose of having a dog and completely alienating their natural behaviors?
I've been doing this with my doberman for a few months now, rewarding when she disengages from chasing rabbits and squirrels and it's making a huge difference!
Hello Zak or to everyone who will read my comment, let me hope this finds you well. My six-month GSD barks a lot and at everything during the nighttime. yes, I like protective dogs mostly during the night but too many sounds disturb mostly to us and neighbors. However, she barks only at external people/things/sounds not to us/home . Advise me what to do in this case.
My Tervuren really loves to creep haha
That’s very interesting, my husky is so much into hunting. We walk her every day in the forest, so there is lots of wild life. But I don’t want her to chase it, because it is not allowed in my country. But she always tries to chase, and all I can do is to keep her on leash.I’d like her to be off leash and run next to my bike, but that’s not possible because of her hunting instinct. I’ll try the technique from this video and hope it works
zac, I hope you're getting some well-deserved rest!
My Shannon tries to chase Rabbits. I know where they are, and I treat my dog a lot and walk by really fast. The interest seems to be ebbing.
my dog sees the target bird long before I spotted it. And if it's a certain type of bird she's already bolted with me hanging on to her leash
Hi Zak,
My dog doesn’t retrieve. He will chase a ball/toy a few times but he doesn’t bring it to me. He wants me to chase him for it. He loses interest within five minutes. The other difficulties are that he doesn’t have pre6 stalk behavior. He charges, fast. I am having much trouble with him in this area. If he sees a cat or any kind of wildlife (except birds), he will tear out of my hand and chase no matter what I do. I need this to stop. It’s dangerous and he has injured my hand several times.Any suggestions that I can try?
The lead in mentioned cats. How does one apply this to a cat in the house?
In addition to Simone Mueller, would also recommend Tracey McLennan as a really lovely expert in predatory behavior in dogs.
Ohhhh…. I’ve been wondering how to manage my chi. She’s very prey reactive and that doesn’t seem to be an angle anyone addresses. Working on leash reactivity does nothing when the dog is hyper focused on prey.
So, if my dog is calmly looking at a bird, I do NOT reinforce that with a yes/treat? Differentiating ‘observing’ from ‘staring/ready to lunge’ is challenging!
From what I understood, it seemed like zak was saying that being able to watch the bird in itself is reinforcement for the dog.
He also said that you can reward your dog if they disengage from the bird as long as you gain more distance from it first.
The dog is reacting to the duck. I saw a pull on the leash and the word "no"… how abusive!
I think my dog is near sighted because he either doesn't see the thing, or we're too close for him to stay below threshold. This is my challenge... any solutions?
Would it be fair to say that this method should also work when our puppy disengages eyeing other dogs to initiate play? Or is it play VS predatory instinct foundationally different? Isn't play the foundation of predatory instinct, though?
I just think of it like toddlers- distraction works.. Any unwanted behavior, disengage, even If its friendly
What frisbee brand do you use?
Hero discs👍
Good video but hard to follow along at times. Maybe it's my poor attention span but the editing felt like a vlog. Also some text on screen might of help me digest the info better? Interactive video as always
So i have a dog that is completely aggressive torwards every one and other dogs , I’ve watched your training videos for a long time and I’m still in sure which best tip to train him is to get out of that aggression, i can no longer even take him outside with how reactive he is and how he constantly tries ti take his muzzle off when seeing anyone or anything,I’m at a loss of what to do. He now just poops n pees in cage if i have people over and it’s so annoying because i take him outside bout 4 times a day because of it and still he does this . I don’t wanna give up on him but he’s 7 years old and a pit and I’m getting complaints now and i don’t want him to be put down over something that i feel can be fixed
Thank you for reaching out, and I understand your distress. It sounds like you’re dealing with complex behavioral issues with your dog that go beyond what can be addressed through simple training videos. Aggressive and reactive behaviors can be deeply rooted and can stem from various factors, like fear, anxiety, or past experiences.
Your commitment to your dog is commendable, and I encourage you to continue trying to help him. However, in severe cases like this, it’s crucial to involve a professional who can guide you through a personalized behavior modification plan. This should ideally be a certified behaviorist, a veterinary behaviorist, or a highly experienced dog trainer well-versed in dealing with aggression and reactivity.
The behavioral issues you’ve described require a multifaceted approach, possibly including changes to his environment, daily routine, and possibly even medical interventions. All of these factors should be discussed with the professional you choose to work with.
Please don’t lose hope. It’s important to remember that behavioral change takes time and patience. It’s not easy, but with consistent effort, understanding, and professional guidance, improvements can be made. And remember, every small step towards progress is a victory. Keep pushing, and good luck.
American standard K9 training. And solid K9 training, are two channels that will give you great results.
What do you do if your dog never disengages???!!!
yeah this guy doesnt know, the answer is a prong collar!
I only trust info from quote trainers quote that demonstrate all their videos based only on their personal pet.
You will NEVER be more worthy to the dog than prey. The sooner you get it, the less time you will spend watching these dog toy commercials.
@@ZaryaTheLaika Good luck trying to replace deer with frisbee!
We live on a river. There are so many distractions for our rescue dachshunds. Squirrels run scour deck. Rabbits live under our deck and deer wander through our yard on a regular daily basis.
How do you train for that??😂
I'm a balanced trainer (no e-collars or prongs as they are forbidden in Germany anyway but balanced methods) and I don't like how you sometimes act like p+ is the only truth and everyone else is wrong or unknowledgable as only the dogs themself know the truth and a method completely tailored to the individual without just blindly forcing one owns strict method upon the dog is the best way to train. However this is an excellent video and 90% of the solution to controling a dogs prey drive. My Akita for example is almost 11 years old and her prey drive was extreme plus she is an independant breed however she can walk off leash literally everywhere as she is well behaved and even if a rabbit jumps out of the grass 5 inches in front of her nose she wouldn't even look after it, she doesn't care. This took 3 years of training though and I did it similar to you in this video. Telling her that spotting the prey is great and she gets my rewards or praise but hunting is a no. Though here is where I act differently as a balanced trainer. I also work with distance etc but if a situation just happens or the dog falls back, I don't just let it happen and try to get a furhter distance next time as this just sets one back a bit and increases the duration of the training needed to give your dog freedom (p+ is great until it cuts off your and your dogs freedom by taking longer than needed while a few low corrections can increase the learning process and make your dog a happy off leash dog sooner). In case a prey animal just jumps out unexpectedly or the distance chosen was too close I do use corrections. On a harness its less effective but a collar can be dangerous on a long lead if a dog is too highly driven und crashes into the end of the leash full speed (hence why I use the collar when the drive is already reduced but would not recommend it to people not being fulla able to know when it is ok to use it). But since the harness correction is less effective I pull the dog back and have it do sit/downs and heel work until its focus is back, then a wait and calm. THough I always try to find trainign situations while the dog is on a short leash on the collar as this is where I can tell him what not to do which helps them understanding the other training of showing them what we like them to do way faster. Plus I work with difficult dogs such as my Akita in the example who doesn't play at all (try throwing her a frisbees, she's walk the other way as if she was laughing) and treats are not too effective either (if she isn't in the mood she refuses even a freshly boiled piece of meat). So the combination of correcting the wrong behavior in case it happens (never force the situation but preferably train as in the video but you can't control the environment) and reinforcing the part of the natural behaviour the dogs are showing us by themself works pretty fast and increases the level of understanding and communication between you and your dog.
Love this video, just wanted to add a little as every dog is different and independant, strong willed breeds often need special understanding and training. My Finnish Lapphund (personality and will to work like a Border Collie, just a bit more relaxed and less hyper) was super easy and trained p+ only. He was easy to train like a roboter but my AKita and other dogs I trained for people would still be in leash prison or the shelter without a few perfectly timed and rarely used corrections.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
I can’t believe you came for dog daddy
what a horrible thing to do
jealousy is a disgusting trait
I appreciate your viewpoint, but let’s consider the broader context. The person you’re referring to is not just being challenged by a lone voice, but is facing widespread criticism from the entire dog training community.
His methods demonstrate a lack of understanding of essential principles for effectively interacting with dogs, teaching them, and resolving behavioral issues. Instilling fear in a dog is not training. Actually, utilizing fear as a supposed training method is likely to exacerbate issues over the course of the dog’s life.
That’s why there’s a unified stance within the dog training community against such practices. His competence is questioned, and many believe he shouldn’t be working with dogs.
Furthermore, a simple web search reveals a host of concerns regarding his treatment of animals in his care. So, it’s not just about one or two isolated incidents, but a pattern that’s indicative of a deeper problem.
My dogs have killed little animals like rats, lizards, and birds
But never eat them
Zak you are the best dog trainer
Definitely not. But thank you!!
I taught my dog to chase squirrels away from the chickens, and I'm kind of worried about what happens when he manages to catch one...
Concern may be warranted. Time to break out the long lead and build some protocol together!
Oh he will shake it to DEATH. My cousin's pit caught one and it was a real violent show in front of our kids. TBH this squirrel would tease her every day so I guess it asked for it, but it was a MESS..
My dog loves to chase squirrels and rabbits. He pulls hard on the leash and has almost taken me down. It’s more serious when he sees them before I do and starts to lunge.
My dog has an obsession with " bunnies", If I even say that word he gets going. But I acted like I was " in on ir" with him on a walk and told him shhh, we have to be quiet and sneaky. Then we slowly creep toward the bunny and when my dog tries to lunge, im prepared for that moment. So now he crouches down and tries to be " sneaky" when he sees one.
I have a 5.5 month old retriever and so far he's caught and killed a few squirrels and a rabbit. No idea how he got the rabbit, guessing he cornered it and was able to grab it. So this will be very helpful!
Best of luck!👍
try working on this now and not leave your dog unsupersvised if possible as the actual prey drive is just beginning to awaken at this age. If you train on this now, you have a chance to get it solved in roughly a year (or longer as he already hunted successfully which makes it difficult as the is almost nothing more rewarding than chase and kill and he already knows the feeling) if it keeps happening he won't be able to walk off leash which would be sad. Please start training now and/or visit a good dog school (or trainer or whatever it is called in your country)
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My high-prey drive dog is pretty good about watching and disengaging when it's something he's never chased before-he does a great job with the neighborhood horses and chickens. He can also stand still and watch deer and sometimes smaller animals like rabbits if they don't bolt.... But this is nature we're talking about. The rabbit/deer/squirrel WILL bolt when it notices us, and my dog NEEDS to give chase and kill it at that point. While this kind of training works when the dog and prey animal are below the threshold, you often don't have that kind of encounter wild animals, they run and the dog's instinct is to chase, so I don't see how this is helpful for squirrels, rabbits, etc. that bolt and trigger the chase instinct?
Would this work to stop my dog chasing my cat all the time?
Simone Meuller doesn't recommend using this protocol with other pet animals as the distraction. Your dog ideally shouldn't consider them as prey.
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So what happens when they don’t want to disengage at all? Are we supposed to just stand there forever hoping our dogs will eventually get bored of watching an animal and finally remember we exist?
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Is it bad to let a dog kill? For example a rat in the chicken coop or a vole in the garden. My dog will dig it out and kill it. She doesn't eat it. The older dog might. She doesn't harm the chickens.
Also she chases a squirrel away from the bird feeder. It goes up a tree. Then she sits there until I say good job.
You are training non aggressive dogs get some bad pit bulls do you train them i mean the one's that bite
If you were looking for evidence that a dog is aggressive in a training video you are looking for evidence of bad dog training.
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I think it's dangerous to allow the dog to go through those early stages. If something is not for them to mess with, they should be made aware of this from the get go. Otherwise you're just confusing the dog. What if he starts stalking a child, would you seriously let it continue and tell the parent "it's fine, I'll put a stop to it once he's getting ready to attack"?
I tried to make my dog ignore bunnies to no avail. So I trained him to be sneaky and we go slow, then when he lunges i pull him and say, that's one bunny, let's go find more. So then he disengages quickly to engage in the next mission. But prey drive isn't usually towards kids, maybe it can be? Your dog might just like kids and want to play. I just keep going and tell my dog, sorry we can't make friends today and he moves on and forgets about it
@@correaplayz01nunya93 I just meant in general, my dog isn't interested in kids. Cars would be another example, if a dog likes chasing them, I feel it would be very dangerous to allow him to think engaging with one in a prey/predator kind of way is appropriate. What if he gets loose and you're not there to make him disengage? He'll run into traffic and probably get killed.
In my opinion if you want to get a dog to stop chasing things you have to teach them that it isn't a prey item or a toy. If you make them disengage anyway then it seems more helpful to do it right away, not after they got excited and into it. You said once you force your dog to disengage he starts looking for the next one to stalk, you pretty much taught him to go after the rabbits/look for more. If he had been taught the rabbits aren't a toy he would ignore them.
Zak's approach doesn't teach the dog not to chase, it encourages the dog to view things as prey and merely relies on the owner to be there to put a stop to it. Very dangerous, because the dog learns nothing and if he got loose would definitely go after whatever he is stalking.
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All these dogs are on a short leash. Again, I'm always going to teach a dog all the basics and advanced techniques it requires for public access before ever seeing a leash.
i noticed that too your not wrong in doing that zac loves to show the wrong way to do things and he changes the titles of these videos to hide them luckily for me my dog doesn't chase any thing she's to scared of them to try she just stares at them with a WHAT THE HELL look on her face my lol my only problem is how to get her to stop pulling on the leash she's not a big dog its just hard to get to stop pulling when she puts her nose to the ground and try's to find a sent
I agree with the methodology you are showing and is good. However, a prong collar would make it much precise and manageable instead of trying to hold up the dog by the harness.
If he decides to go for the target and if it is a powerful dog then he will drag the person along with him finding it interesting and kinda game. In my opinion and experience pulling sometimes is a great game to them when they want to chase as well.
On the other hand if you block pulling by prong and apply your methodology of diversion, self control, relaxation, treats etc then one will successfully be not compounding two or multiple issues and more on hand….
In the long term “ as your methodology inherently calls for the long term solutions” when the behavior is perfected with the prong, remove the prong with the harness.
The whole balanced methodology would become more practical for so many reasons.
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I love when he talks so much just to get yanked by those dogs like a sled. You can't even train your own dog. What gives you credibility to teach others? Get 1 year old green IGP dog and show me how you train him on harness and with treats only.
Science is good.... trust the science.... Believe in science . Don't deny the science. Obey the science....
Dude, why do you make videos. It’s the same junk, give them treats 😅… we all get it already.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. While the use of treats is a visible part of my videos, it is merely one aspect of the comprehensive, science-backed approach we adopt in addressing canine behavior. In our recent content, we dove into the predatory sequence, an innate aspect of canine behavior that's central to understanding our dogs on a deeper level. We emphasized the importance of timing and positive reinforcement, aiming to enable dogs to be their most natural selves, rather than suppressing behaviors through punitive methods. This methodological shift helps avoid a multitude of issues associated with traditional, punishment-based training. My goal is to elevate the discourse on dog training and inspire viewers to engage with their dogs in a more informed, compassionate manner. I appreciate your engagement and am open to suggestions on specific topics you'd find interesting.
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I listen to your videos because I do believe you are the most eloquent when speaking about dog behavior on RUclips. I personally prefer listening to you over Tom, Ivan (who I can’t understand anyway) and Joel is just a grump old man and doesn’t know if he is a balanced trainer or not. Ceaser is a whacky doodle.
I refer people to watch you for knowledge on dog behavior, so I don’t want to seem like a hater because I enjoy your knowledge on dog behavior, however,
Please allow me to ask you a couple of questions Zak.
Since dog training is not regulated and since anyone can call themselves a dog trainer, wouldn’t you say that different techniques outside of treat training are just another way to train dogs ? If you know what Science is then you’d know that science is based on limited studies and it is someone else’s opinion based on what they do. You can create your own science. When you (Zak) train a dog, are you reading 📖 from a book on how to do it ? Or do you train using your own understanding and experiences , I’m curious?
You also say you don’t want to work against their natural instincts? Having them on a leash is already working against their natural insitinct to run and roam around, feeding them works against their natural insitincts because they are capable of finding food. Training them in general defies their natural instincts because training them to listen to us is why we get the dog and is whole point right ? Creating thresholds and boundaries and rules for a dog already goes against their natural instincts so what is your point ?
@@tonydigiorno5139I'm pretty sure Zak won't answer your questions. I hope I'm wrong.
err yes an instant recall or stay,,,,something youve not managed to do with yours lol
What are you even talking about
@@jus.me.tanzks5834Zak can only recall them when they are under the so called threshold.