A quick note on ground clearance. That 9.5" for the Outback and that 9.2" for the Forester are only on the Wilderness trim levels. All other trim level ground clearances on both models is 8.7"
I've been waiting for Subaru to charge extra for the Crosstrek Wilderness to keep up with other's ground clearance. In '14 the XV (same car) matched the Grand Cherokee. Just like trucks , bigger, taller, higher usually sells more. I'm really happy with how similar the new model is to our ten year old model.
Yeah one of the reasons im not selling my '11 legacy 3.6 any time soon. 1) interior has 0 gloss black and is almost all tactile buttons. 2) boxer 6 3) torque converted auto vs a cvt 4) can to 3k lb in a sedan 5) cheap insurance 6) high visibility 7) great comfort on affordable strut suspension(just did all 4 struts and 2 control arms for 1k) thats cheap 8)harmon kardon system was a very good value 9) resale value is pretty good. Bought for 17k in 2015 and im still seeing them sell for 9k with my mileage 8 years later. 1k a year is nothing. Most cars depreciate 2-3k a year.
I just got one and the ride is so smooth!! My old CR-V caused me so much pain in my knees every time I went over a bump on a regular city street. No problems with the Crosstrek!! Very comfortable ride. It also is only noisy on start up, then quiets after it idles down. The ride itself is quiet!! Love my 2024 Crosstrek!!
Alex, As I understand it, you can opt out of the mandatory Labrador requirement 4:08 if you are wearing sandals over socks while placing your Crosstrek order. 😉 BTW a genuine Levorg wagon would do a much better job of being a 'mini Outback'.
Lol the "it's actually pretty comfortable" at 15:17 when he is about to plop right into a hard divet in the ground, but there is a convenient cut scene right before impact 🤣🤣
Alex, I think you hit the nail on the head - Subaru definitely works to mask the relative lack of power (well, and torque) with some interesting throttle mapping. This is fine because you can scoot around town with relative ease, but there's actually very little left with extra pedal travel and ultimately the base Impreza and Crosstreks are pretty poky.
I do like the pairing of both you together in videos. Granted, I also like your individual videos, but I am glad to see that it doesn't change whenever you are both in the same review
The Crosstrek with the 2.5 liter makes sense to me only if you must have a Crosstrek body style, but can't abide the weaker 2.0 liter engine (which is an absolute dog in any high elevation states). But for anyone who is not married to the body style of a Crosstrek, then for my money the Forester makes so much more sense. For roughly one or two grand more than a Crosstrek Sport or Limited (which come with the optional 2.5 liter), you can get a similarly equipped Forester and the 2.5 liter engine is standard. Also, the Forester is not much larger on the outside. So urban parking should not be that much harder to do than with the already-long Crosstrek. In exchange, the Forester is SO MUCH roomier on the inside. The middle seat in the rear bench of the Forester is a little more usable.
But the forester is way heavier and the 2.5 on it feels sluggish. Even worse, unlike the crosstrek and outback, there is no option for more power at higher trim levels with the forester. I don't know why subaru pays so little attention to that model.
I drove to over 10k ft in a rented Kia soul with a NA 2.0 engine. Was it blistering quick? No. But it made it just fine. I think the crosstrek premium I bought will be good too.
I wish the whole lineup was made in Japan, or at least I wish the higher trims were made in Japan. For such a large vehicle, the 2.5L really should be the standard engine and we really need a turbo option and a strong hybrid option. With the Crosstrek being Subaru's best selling car, I don't think these things are too much to ask for. Oh and for the love of God bring back physical climate controls Subaru.
Turbo engine suffers in real-world fuel economy (but not showing up in EPA test) and reliability issue when it gets older. I actually appreciate the fact that they keep the model NA which makes it more practical. To have more power I wish Subaru bring back the hatchback version of the WRX.
I love the CX 30, I was going to go to a Crosstek but just was not overly impressed with it, I don’t like the fact their using silicone inside under the hood now, and the CX 30 has way more power than the Crosstek base and quite frankly I think it’s much nicer to look at also. Their all wheel drive is pretty good compared to Subarus too. Also it was $1700 less and the financing way better. I love the way Mazdas drive now, they have that sport car drive to them. I used to have Subarus but I just haven’t been happy with them lately at all .
Yesterday I had someone offer me (out of the clear blue) $30k for my Standard Transmission 2023 Crosstrek Premium; they where shocked when I told them I was NOT in the slightest bit interested. The 2024 model looks nice, its a shame that the Standard Transmission option is no longer going to be there.
I'm glad that Subaru didn't change too much of their formula from the previous one. My only complaint with my current Crosstrek is the rear middle seat 8:43. If you want 3 people in the back you better hope that one of them doesn't have legs.
It's funny that you say that it's targeted towards a younger active demographic. I beg to differ. Here in northern New England, Veemont, New Hampshire and Maine, a hugh portion of the Crosstrek population is active empty nesters and seniors. It's the perfect size/height for mounting kayaks and MT bikes especially for active older folks with mobility issues. Also for great for dog owners and a couple of grandchildren. Us seasoned customers also love the practicality and affordability. Love your reviews Alex!
Having owned a 2019 with the 2.0 Liter and now a 2020 with the 2.5 Liter, I can definitely say I would never buy the 2.0L again. Yes, we gave up about 2 mpg in real world driving, but the 2.5L can pass with ease and has more than adequate power, and especially, torque. NOT SO for the 2.0L...merging on highways was stressful! Our 2020 is coming off-lease this fall and I totally expect to get a 2024 Limited then...
Hello Alex, I really love your contents. Always give us great information that no other channel will deliver, that crucial for decision making with putting yourself into every row and even cargo space to really tell us actual practicality of the vehicle to us every time. And you always include power train to trans, and unique feature of the vehicles in good pace. I think You are #1 car reviewer in my opinion!! and then...Just one thing I want ask to Brian my favor. The way you speak some words very quickly quite often, that makes your video not so enjoyable... because I just cannot engage to Brian's explanations very well for me. I think you are very knowledgeable as Alex, but.... I just wanted to share my opinion... for may be just for me... Thanks✌
Thanks for your excellent reviews! I'm actually looking between the Toyota Cross and this. I am way way way over the average demographic for this at 75. But often find myself on roads a little like you show. My Corgi wasn't amused by your reference to Labs, but I was. This looks very nice and one thing you did not mention is the wait time. I think the wait time on the Subaru is around 1 month (at least here in Albuquerque) whereas Toyota has insane wait times. But going out and driving a new car the same day seems to be a thing of the past.
I'm 6' 2", so the Crosstrek is a little too small for me. I wound up getting the Forester Wilderness. It's a comfortable fit, it has 9.2" of ground clearance and the interior space in the back is much larger. It also sits higher off the ground, so getting in and out is much easier than the Crosstrek, or even the Outback.
I am 6'3 and my gf has a Crosstrek. I feel pretty comfortable in it because the seat goes back . My vehicle is a Ranger, but I actually enjoy driving her Crosstrek. I think the seat actually goes back farther in xtrek than my Ranger. Foresters are nice as well.
My 6'1" 80 yo father has an Outback. He had to sit in the front passenger seat of our '14 XV Crosstrek. No problem with legroom, but he did complain (A LOT) (I mean like constantly, a lot) about the wind noise. This was something they improved but then I noticed in this video that they took away the hood insulation.
I like that the new one is quieter, and reportedly has better seats, but prefer the previous model's use of a "just right" sized screen for back up camera and radio, with big buttons and knobs for climate control.
My thoughts exactly. I have a '22 Trek and I love how unintrusive the screen is, just has the information I need and it works well, everything else physical. The seats on this new one look mega comfy though, and maaan does that aggressive lumbar support sound great
Looks like a fun day out in the desert! It's nice looking vehicle. I like that bright red paint, the standard LED headlights, and the alloys. I'm not a fan of the chunky unpainted black plastic cladding, which tends to look faded and hideous after a few years without extra care. I like the excellent ground clearance, but it looks like a lifted hatchback rather than an SUV and has a lower seating position than some of the competition. The archaic Mitsubishi Outlander Sport has a lot more interior room, especially headroom and cargo room. It's also got a very respectable 8.5 inches of ground clearance, a higher seating position, and looks more like an SUV. The Mitsubishi AWD system is just as capable and it has the advantage of manually selectable modes, allowing FWD-only for better efficiency, full-time AWD, or automatic mode that switches between the two based on wheel slippage. It's also got a much better warranty and an excellent reliability track record. The Crosstrek's has a nicer interior though.
CarandDriver gave it a 4/10 :( Lows: Miserable powertrains, middling fuel economy, milquetoast driving behavior. Too bad, as it has so much to offer in AWD for the price.
I think SUV with short length should have fold flat front passenger seat, such as the current gen Chevrolet Trax & Trailblazer. It dramatically increased its practicality!
This just now caught eye and it looks awfully nice! I'm no off-roader, but from this and other videos of this car, it would be a great daily driver on city streets and the freeway! And the price is amazing!
The Crosstrek is still the better looking one IMO in this segment. The all wheel drive is amazing. I had a 2014 hybrid and now have a 2018 and these are just soooo capable on snow, it’s almost as if there wasn’t any.
Subaru take note, late in 2012 bought my first CX5 was a 2013 model only engine available was 2 liter was way under powered. Traded it in for a 2019 with the 2.5 made a world of difference
@@evdanielsson7 yeah just like any new battery abouncement I will believe it when I see it. I've also realized that the corolla cross hybrid won't have a spare tire like the gas engine, so in back to my 2 choices: Kia Sportage and Rav4
The Labrador comment was funny. My nearest Subaru dealer (the newest dealer in my area) has a small dog park near the front of the building. I definitely didn't see that at any other dealer I stopped at.
Took advantage of low 4.9% financing on existing 2023 dealer lot inventory in February. Scored a rare 2.5L Limited w/o the sunroof and nav option for $500 under msrp. The 2024’s are probably going to have crazy high interest rates.
It's a nicely done car, but I feel like a lower trim Forrester is still a better overall value. Too bad the stick-shift option is gone, but even the previous versions relegated it to base trims.
💯 unless you need the smaller size the premium forester is such a good deal. Especially, with how they optioned the sunroof. I feel like they will change that with the next Forester though
Subaru halted production prematurely to produce the 2024 models early. They cut costs by switching over to structural adhesives instead of welding metal parts of the chassis together. It sounds very sketchy to me. I tried to purchase a 2023 recently, and they wanted to gouge out both my eyes to sell that car. Also mechanical experts on youtube say the hoses and parts that require connections are sealed together with a glob of silicon instead of real gaskets that normally join most parts together. So in a few years the silicon dries out and you have all kinds of leaks all over the engine.
Our chevy camaro was involved in a total loss accident. Purchased a premium crosstrek that the dealer already had on order, should be here in Sept. No power seat and heated seat😪, but needed a car quicker.
I have manual seats but that is what I prefer. I didn't want a driver side power seat at all. I've never had heated seats, I just wear warm coats!! I know there have been winter drives that a heated steering wheel would be nice though!! When your hands are freezing and you are already wearing warm mittens!! But that is during long winter drives along the Canadian border, most people don't do that.
So sad the manual is gone… Just bought a brand new 23 manual and it makes the engine sound so happy and thrummy, cvt just makes it groan and sound awful and not fun to drive. Glad I picked it up before I couldn’t get one anymore, will keep it forever I guess. Just moved to Colorado and it is great in the snow with the full time 4wd unlike the cvt!
I'm not sure exactly, but my salesperson told me the tattoo changes depending on your speed. At high speed it's more front wheel drive, on trails it's controlled by x drive
how reliable long term do you feel about these CVT's? Does anyone have any experience with these CVT's long term? Long term to me is double that of the factory warranty so about ten years at least. 2 of my cars are 23 yrs old and on their original trans, only done fluid maintenance on them and they're fine today. Another one is 15 years old and have done just fine. I ask because I keep seeing comments about how bad these cone and belt cvt's are, but I was hoping to find someone who actually has had them for long enough to tell me personal experience. I know RAv's are a little different with the ecvt that are mechanically driven that have had no issues, but I'm cross shopping possible Foresters, Rav's, Crosstreks, etc.
Alex, can you explain why a shorter engine (4 cylinder boxer vs inline 4 cylinder) results in the engine being further forward? I don't quite get this. Thanks for the very excellent video with Brian - some of your best work IMHO 🙂
Just a guess. Boxer is 2 cylinders deep & inline 4 is 1 cylinder deep x 4 cylinders wide. The inline 4 has the transmission on its side & boxer has transmission after engine.
Imagine you're looking down on the engine from above. A 4cyl boxer will appear more like a square, while an inline engine will be a rectangle. Now imagine the rectangle is turned so the longer portion is going left/right. This leaves the shorter dimensions to go front/back. It ends up more narrow in that direction that the square-shaped boxer engine. This difference in shape/dimensions means you need more space in the front for a boxer compared to an inline engine mounted transversely.
I think we have an old video on this, but in essence the entire engine and a portion of the transmission is in front of the axle vs most transverse engine vehicles where the engine is more or less in line or slightly in front.
Thanks Alex, nice review as always! Would appreciate your opinion on best location for a dash cam as the usual place behind the rear mirror is now occupied by additional (3rd) eyesight camera.
One number I never hear about much, is the *height* of the rear hatch area. 30" is the minimum I would be looking for, since that's the height of a typical large sized dog crate. Anything less is just a swoopy, good-looking wagon-like vehicle that's not as practical as the body style promises.
Hey Alex, The rear center shoulder belt can be disconnected at the buckle, and it retracts almost completely into the pillar where it's anchored. So, it's an issue only when you have a rear center seat passenger (which for me is almost never).
The outgoing model flunked the Insurance Institute's new-for-2023 heavier-vehicle side impact test pretty badly, even as some other smallish cars like the Honda Civic and Acura Integra came through pretty well. Does the new Crosstrek sort that out?
I enjoyed Alex's reference to the Labrador requirement for future Impreza owners. I think you'll find, however, that most of the canine passengers in Subaru commercials are Golden Retrievers, not Labs. My own Golden takes offense at being confused with his short-haired Lab cousins. And he enjoys riding around in his Lexus RX.
I was driving my belovet VW Passat R36 with its low front bumper towards the bank to withdraw all my cash, when a WRX with road presentation zoomed past me and accidentally crushed a pair of vise grips on the road. Despite the minor incident, I continued on my journey, enjoying the scenic views and the feeling of the wind in my hair. Thanks for reading my commend despite the fact it doesn’t have many likes.
Thanks for doing this video, Brian is a nice addition. Your videos are always comprehensive and informative. If only Subaru would give the option of a double din radio and a stick. And a turbo. If they're going to stick with a CVT (which is fine, I guess...) Why not get rid of the shifter? A few buttons and paddles is all that's needed. These are narrow cars, the more console space the better. Anyway, I ramble. For anyone new to Subaru, the Crosstrek is a great car, I've owned one for ten years and love it. Yes, it's the 2.0 CVT. We've driven it in 9 different countries including on the German Autobahn in excess of 100mph. Fantastic car with minimal maintenance necessary.
There is no question that Subaru is a popular car especially in states with harsh winter conditions. However, I am own a 2003 Forrester for 20 years and they are expensive cars to maintain after 155,000 miles. The all-wheel drive system might be nice until you have a compromised axel boot. The cost for replacing one is over $400+ at the Subaru dealership. The other big issue are persistent oil leaks including the bell-housing area , which cost over $1400 to repair because they had to drop the boxer engine to fix it. Overall, within the last two years alone I spent $3000+ in repair costs. The cvt transmission although reliable is now showing it’s age. My car has 213,000 and I am ready for a new non Subaru model.
Foresters didn't get a cvt transmission until 2014, they had a 4 speed automatic in 2003. Also with an AWD vehicle like the vast majority of subarus you have to realize you have more points of failure, you got four cv joints (axles and boots) a driveshaft front to rear with bearings, a differential in the rear that no one ever seems to maintain and a cylinder layout that doesn't let the coolant fully drain from the heads (coolant become acidic over time and then eats the head gaskets). Rubber boots degrade over time, a stone, a nick, the climate you live in all takes a toll.
Alex, thank you for your videos. Based on your review of Subarus I just purchased an Ascent and LOVE it. Once I am ready for something smaller I will definitely be looking into the Crosstrek
If the Crosstrek had 8-way power seats in the Limited trim instead of 6-way I'd own one right now. I'm 6' 3" with long legs and I need that front of a car's seat to tip up to get more thigh support and a bit more legroom. I don't know why they even put a power seat in a car if it can't adjust more in range than a 6-way manual seat would.
Great video! But I do have a question. At 5:35 all models (2.0 and 2.5 engine) will get the same fuel economy?? Usually a 2.5 engine gets less MPG. Is the fuel tank in the 2.5 larger? and would you know the size of the fuel tanks for both?
Just a quick check on Subaru website, the 2.0 models get 28/33 MPG and 2.5 models get 27/34 MPG. I guess it's because the 2.0 engine is pretty old and the newer 2.5 engine is quite efficient. Fuel tank is 16.6 gal across all models.
Oh sorry I was looking at 23' models so the number I provided is wrong. Alex did mentioned in ~17:10 that both engine options offer similar fuel economy numbers.
I just purchased a 2023 Outback Touring XT a few months ago (my 3rd Subie) and I mostly love it, especially the overall comfort and high end features, but it feels a bit too large on the road for my tastes. I also really wanted the turbo engine, but I kind of wish I'd waited for the 2024 Crosstrek Limited or even the next gen Forester Touring. Even though I'd have to sacrifice the turbo, I'd have saved thousands and the 2.5 is adequate power, if not thrilling. Excellent review, gents!
KIA Seltos SX AWD has Torque Vectoring/Center Lock, 1.6T with 175hp/195torque, 0-60mph under 7 seconds with the 7DCT. Has every feature on this Crosstrek minus the ground clearance and swiveling headlights. Instead it offers 63 cubic feet of cargo space, way better engine/performance, and rear air vents. Costs 30,865 fully loaded. Not sure what makes the Crosstrek similarly equipped worth 3K more.
No way! Have you driven one? It is super cheaply made. The seats are horrible and very small. The AWD System is not very capable. It is basically a Hyundai Accent/Kia Rio on stilts. It is way over priced for what it is. This is built on a much more sophisticated and refined platform. 😉
While not a fan of the CVT for off-road, I have to admit its probably better than a DCT that will never do well is slow crawling situations. Subaru do seem to have one of the better CVT's and at least in the Wilderness trims have pretty much fixed any overheating of the transmission issues.
A quick note on ground clearance. That 9.5" for the Outback and that 9.2" for the Forester are only on the Wilderness trim levels. All other trim level ground clearances on both models is 8.7"
This chart is showing max clearance figures.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide yeah and he is making the distinction that not all have that clearance.....
AlaskaEric is correct. His ground clearance figures are Wilderness trim exclusives only.
Great comment, OP.
I've been waiting for Subaru to charge extra for the Crosstrek Wilderness to keep up with other's ground clearance. In '14 the XV (same car) matched the Grand Cherokee. Just like trucks , bigger, taller, higher usually sells more. I'm really happy with how similar the new model is to our ten year old model.
OMG. PHYSICAL SWITCHES FOR THE SEAT HEATERS!! Amazing.
Very nice that they've kept that instead of moving it to the dash tablet like in the Outback.
Yeah one of the reasons im not selling my '11 legacy 3.6 any time soon. 1) interior has 0 gloss black and is almost all tactile buttons.
2) boxer 6
3) torque converted auto vs a cvt
4) can to 3k lb in a sedan
5) cheap insurance
6) high visibility
7) great comfort on affordable strut suspension(just did all 4 struts and 2 control arms for 1k) thats cheap
8)harmon kardon system was a very good value
9) resale value is pretty good. Bought for 17k in 2015 and im still seeing them sell for 9k with my mileage 8 years later. 1k a year is nothing. Most cars depreciate 2-3k a year.
16:11 I like how Brian is talking about the ride quality on washboard while Alex smiles and speeds up, making it sound as if the car is falling apart😂
I just got one and the ride is so smooth!! My old CR-V caused me so much pain in my knees every time I went over a bump on a regular city street. No problems with the Crosstrek!! Very comfortable ride. It also is only noisy on start up, then quiets after it idles down. The ride itself is quiet!! Love my 2024 Crosstrek!!
Alex, As I understand it, you can opt out of the mandatory Labrador requirement 4:08 if you are wearing sandals over socks while placing your Crosstrek order. 😉 BTW a genuine Levorg wagon would do a much better job of being a 'mini Outback'.
I'll opt for the Labrador...
I assume you from Down under
Lol 🤣 Keep in mind that the sandals and socks option is cheaper over the long run than feeding and caring for a big dog. Probably less messy, too.
Can confirm.....but let's be honest, who in their right mind would opt out of the Labrador req, it's just not a "true" Crosstrek experience without it
@@byro4475 Have you seen the price of a Labrador lately? I have bought cars for less money than a pup.
Lol the "it's actually pretty comfortable" at 15:17 when he is about to plop right into a hard divet in the ground, but there is a convenient cut scene right before impact 🤣🤣
Alex, I think you hit the nail on the head - Subaru definitely works to mask the relative lack of power (well, and torque) with some interesting throttle mapping. This is fine because you can scoot around town with relative ease, but there's actually very little left with extra pedal travel and ultimately the base Impreza and Crosstreks are pretty poky.
With the 2L engine, yep, it's poky. But the 2.5L? That's no longer an issue.
@@eskieman3948 doesnt change that the throttle mapping is still general trickery.
Thay a Toyota and Subaru feature
Just got a 2023 limited and love it!
Love the analog HVAC controls :P
I do like the pairing of both you together in videos. Granted, I also like your individual videos, but I am glad to see that it doesn't change whenever you are both in the same review
Counterpoint: I see the assistant as a distraction/annoyance, adding nothing of value that wouldn't normally be supplied by Alex.
The Dynamic Duo. Love these videos fellas.
The Crosstrek with the 2.5 liter makes sense to me only if you must have a Crosstrek body style, but can't abide the weaker 2.0 liter engine (which is an absolute dog in any high elevation states). But for anyone who is not married to the body style of a Crosstrek, then for my money the Forester makes so much more sense. For roughly one or two grand more than a Crosstrek Sport or Limited (which come with the optional 2.5 liter), you can get a similarly equipped Forester and the 2.5 liter engine is standard. Also, the Forester is not much larger on the outside. So urban parking should not be that much harder to do than with the already-long Crosstrek. In exchange, the Forester is SO MUCH roomier on the inside. The middle seat in the rear bench of the Forester is a little more usable.
Why not just go for the outback with the turbo and most cargo room, it's not much more than the Forester
Why stop there? Just get an Ascent; it's not that much more than an Outback and has even more cargo room.
Mazda cx 30
But the forester is way heavier and the 2.5 on it feels sluggish. Even worse, unlike the crosstrek and outback, there is no option for more power at higher trim levels with the forester. I don't know why subaru pays so little attention to that model.
I drove to over 10k ft in a rented Kia soul with a NA 2.0 engine. Was it blistering quick? No. But it made it just fine. I think the crosstrek premium I bought will be good too.
I wish the whole lineup was made in Japan, or at least I wish the higher trims were made in Japan. For such a large vehicle, the 2.5L really should be the standard engine and we really need a turbo option and a strong hybrid option. With the Crosstrek being Subaru's best selling car, I don't think these things are too much to ask for. Oh and for the love of God bring back physical climate controls Subaru.
Get a Forester. All models are made in Japan.
A large vehicle?
Agree with the turbo option, needs more power
Turbo engine suffers in real-world fuel economy (but not showing up in EPA test) and reliability issue when it gets older. I actually appreciate the fact that they keep the model NA which makes it more practical. To have more power I wish Subaru bring back the hatchback version of the WRX.
@@havfunonline It weighs like 3300 pounds...152 HP to drag around 3300 pounds is horrendous
Don’t forget the Mazda CX-30! More power than both Crosstrek engines (191hp), standard AWD, and the same 29mpg combined with a normal 6spd automatic.
Yawn. You'll find the CX-30 stuck on the side of the road in trail country.
I love the CX 30, I was going to go to a Crosstek but just was not overly impressed with it, I don’t like the fact their using silicone inside under the hood now, and the CX 30 has way more power than the Crosstek base and quite frankly I think it’s much nicer to look at also. Their all wheel drive is pretty good compared to Subarus too. Also it was $1700 less and the financing way better. I love the way Mazdas drive now, they have that sport car drive to them. I used to have Subarus but I just haven’t been happy with them lately at all .
I really hope they bring the manual option in the coming years. Just makes me want to hold on to my '16 for even longer.
Yesterday I had someone offer me (out of the clear blue) $30k for my Standard Transmission 2023 Crosstrek Premium; they where shocked when I told them I was NOT in the slightest bit interested. The 2024 model looks nice, its a shame that the Standard Transmission option is no longer going to be there.
I love the music cued up on the infotainment screen. Target market for Subaru.
I'm guessing the 2.0 engine will be more reliable since its built in Japan compared to the 2.5 which is built in U.S.
I believe the engine is built in Japan, and shipped to USA to assemble in car. I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.
Brian rocking the Transitions 😂
I would definitely buy the Corolla Cross hybrid before this Crosstrek any day of the week, month or year.
The assistant is there to GO DOWN as he said and highlighted.
Odd that the new generation Premium trim gets a plastic steering wheel and the larger touchscreen. My 2018 has a leather wheel and the smaller screen.
I'm glad that Subaru didn't change too much of their formula from the previous one. My only complaint with my current Crosstrek is the rear middle seat 8:43. If you want 3 people in the back you better hope that one of them doesn't have legs.
Lmfao “hope one of them doesn’t have legs” took me out
Labrador joke was hilarious!
It's funny that you say that it's targeted towards a younger active demographic. I beg to differ. Here in northern New England, Veemont, New Hampshire and Maine, a hugh portion of the Crosstrek population is active empty nesters and seniors. It's the perfect size/height for mounting kayaks and MT bikes especially for active older folks with mobility issues. Also for great for dog owners and a couple of grandchildren. Us seasoned customers also love the practicality and affordability. Love your reviews Alex!
Having owned a 2019 with the 2.0 Liter and now a 2020 with the 2.5 Liter, I can definitely say I would never buy the 2.0L again. Yes, we gave up about 2 mpg in real world driving, but the 2.5L can pass with ease and has more than adequate power, and especially, torque. NOT SO for the 2.0L...merging on highways was stressful! Our 2020 is coming off-lease this fall and I totally expect to get a 2024 Limited then...
I love the comedic timing! With respect to my other favorite reviewers, this is a game changer!
I really think the outgoing generation is better than the new one.
I personally think this is the best Crosstrek they have created I mean it is so sharp I love all the angles and the lights look amazing
Brian’s got to make sure that seat belt gets away from his microphone! And that horn sounded so weak! 😂
I honestly didn't expect the next gen Crosstrek Media "first drive" event until May.
Hello Alex, I really love your contents. Always give us great information that no other channel will deliver, that crucial for decision making with putting yourself into every row and even cargo space to really tell us actual practicality of the vehicle to us every time. And you always include power train to trans, and unique feature of the vehicles in good pace. I think You are #1 car reviewer in my opinion!!
and then...Just one thing I want ask to Brian my favor. The way you speak some words very quickly quite often, that makes your video not so enjoyable... because I just cannot engage to Brian's explanations very well for me. I think you are very knowledgeable as Alex, but.... I just wanted to share my opinion... for may be just for me... Thanks✌
Thanks for your excellent reviews! I'm actually looking between the Toyota Cross and this. I am way way way over the average demographic for this at 75. But often find myself on roads a little like you show. My Corgi wasn't amused by your reference to Labs, but I was. This looks very nice and one thing you did not mention is the wait time. I think the wait time on the Subaru is around 1 month (at least here in Albuquerque) whereas Toyota has insane wait times. But going out and driving a new car the same day seems to be a thing of the past.
I'm 6' 2", so the Crosstrek is a little too small for me. I wound up getting the Forester Wilderness. It's a comfortable fit, it has 9.2" of ground clearance and the interior space in the back is much larger. It also sits higher off the ground, so getting in and out is much easier than the Crosstrek, or even the Outback.
I am 6'3 and my gf has a Crosstrek. I feel pretty comfortable in it because the seat goes back . My vehicle is a Ranger, but I actually enjoy driving her Crosstrek. I think the seat actually goes back farther in xtrek than my Ranger. Foresters are nice as well.
My 6'1" 80 yo father has an Outback. He had to sit in the front passenger seat of our '14 XV Crosstrek. No problem with legroom, but he did complain (A LOT) (I mean like constantly, a lot) about the wind noise. This was something they improved but then I noticed in this video that they took away the hood insulation.
The rattling on the off-road drive reminds me of how the interior is going to sound after 2-3 years lmao
I like that the new one is quieter, and reportedly has better seats, but prefer the previous model's use of a "just right" sized screen for back up camera and radio, with big buttons and knobs for climate control.
My thoughts exactly. I have a '22 Trek and I love how unintrusive the screen is, just has the information I need and it works well, everything else physical. The seats on this new one look mega comfy though, and maaan does that aggressive lumbar support sound great
Is the cd player gone? No heated steering wheel option?
Looks like a fun day out in the desert! It's nice looking vehicle. I like that bright red paint, the standard LED headlights, and the alloys. I'm not a fan of the chunky unpainted black plastic cladding, which tends to look faded and hideous after a few years without extra care. I like the excellent ground clearance, but it looks like a lifted hatchback rather than an SUV and has a lower seating position than some of the competition. The archaic Mitsubishi Outlander Sport has a lot more interior room, especially headroom and cargo room. It's also got a very respectable 8.5 inches of ground clearance, a higher seating position, and looks more like an SUV. The Mitsubishi AWD system is just as capable and it has the advantage of manually selectable modes, allowing FWD-only for better efficiency, full-time AWD, or automatic mode that switches between the two based on wheel slippage. It's also got a much better warranty and an excellent reliability track record. The Crosstrek's has a nicer interior though.
CarandDriver gave it a 4/10 :( Lows: Miserable powertrains, middling fuel economy, milquetoast driving behavior.
Too bad, as it has so much to offer in AWD for the price.
@@dg7438 there are a lot of AWD CUVs on the market in this price range.
Not a fan of the big screen and the E parking brake. I like the 2018-2023 Crosstrek better.
I think SUV with short length should have fold flat front passenger seat, such as the current gen Chevrolet Trax & Trailblazer. It dramatically increased its practicality!
Previous interior looked better . This one looks odd / mismatched.
This just now caught eye and it looks awfully nice! I'm no off-roader, but from this and other videos of this car, it would be a great daily driver on city streets and the freeway! And the price is amazing!
Subaru's obsession with cladding is ridiculous.
I like the cladding. If you don’t then it seems to me the best Impreza might be a better fit
Are there rear AC vents? How about dual front seat AC control?
The smaller foot area due to transmission makes your foot cramp on long trips. This is true for most Subarus…
What about the problem of engine stall outs while on highway?
I'd like to buy one but we had too many serious problems with our Impreza.
The infotainment screen doesn’t look sharp and bright. That’s my only complaint
Needs a manual.
The Crosstrek is still the better looking one IMO in this segment. The all wheel drive is amazing. I had a 2014 hybrid and now have a 2018 and these are just soooo capable on snow, it’s almost as if there wasn’t any.
I wish the plug-in version had a longer electric-only range. 17 miles is just too low.
“I’ll take the Crosstrek Premium with the Labrador package please.”
Subaru take note, late in 2012 bought my first CX5 was a 2013 model only engine available was 2 liter was way under powered. Traded it in for a 2019 with the 2.5 made a world of difference
Speaking of sub-compact crossover, whatever happened to the Corolla Cross hybrid? Has it even gone on sale in the US market?
It has not yet, unless it came out over the weekend and I missed it, which doubt.
I believe the Corolla Cross Hybrid is due for Spring of this year. A late release for a ‘23 model for sure. Might as well call it a ‘24 at this point!
@@evdanielsson7 yeah just like any new battery abouncement I will believe it when I see it.
I've also realized that the corolla cross hybrid won't have a spare tire like the gas engine, so in back to my 2 choices: Kia Sportage and Rav4
I'm disappointed there is no hybrid option here.
Are CV transmissions reliable?
The Labrador comment was funny. My nearest Subaru dealer (the newest dealer in my area) has a small dog park near the front of the building. I definitely didn't see that at any other dealer I stopped at.
Took advantage of low 4.9% financing on existing 2023 dealer lot inventory in February. Scored a rare 2.5L Limited w/o the sunroof and nav option for $500 under msrp. The 2024’s are probably going to have crazy high interest rates.
I got 4,49% for a 2024 Touring White :) I will get it in 4-6 weeks, I was lucky to jump on a cancellation.
It's a nicely done car, but I feel like a lower trim Forrester is still a better overall value. Too bad the stick-shift option is gone, but even the previous versions relegated it to base trims.
💯 unless you need the smaller size the premium forester is such a good deal. Especially, with how they optioned the sunroof. I feel like they will change that with the next Forester though
I was reading that the American built 2.5 will not be shared with Canada. The Canadian market will receive the 2.5 from Japan.
Why is there two of them. Is the other Alex Jr. The son of the original Alex ?
Would take a Japanese built 2.0 over an American built 2.5 ANY DAY
Subaru halted production prematurely to produce the 2024 models early. They cut costs by switching over to structural adhesives instead of welding metal parts of the chassis together. It sounds very sketchy to me. I tried to purchase a 2023 recently, and they wanted to gouge out both my eyes to sell that car. Also mechanical experts on youtube say the hoses and parts that require connections are sealed together with a glob of silicon instead of real gaskets that normally join most parts together. So in a few years the silicon dries out and you have all kinds of leaks all over the engine.
This is my only Subaru I wanna buy it Alex.
Our chevy camaro was involved in a total loss accident. Purchased a premium crosstrek that the dealer already had on order, should be here in Sept. No power seat and heated seat😪, but needed a car quicker.
I have manual seats but that is what I prefer. I didn't want a driver side power seat at all. I've never had heated seats, I just wear warm coats!! I know there have been winter drives that a heated steering wheel would be nice though!! When your hands are freezing and you are already wearing warm mittens!! But that is during long winter drives along the Canadian border, most people don't do that.
So sad the manual is gone… Just bought a brand new 23 manual and it makes the engine sound so happy and thrummy, cvt just makes it groan and sound awful and not fun to drive. Glad I picked it up before I couldn’t get one anymore, will keep it forever I guess. Just moved to Colorado and it is great in the snow with the full time 4wd unlike the cvt!
A couple questions:
1) is the road noise and engine noise quieter?
2) is the engine dedicated Direct Injection?
My engine is only noisy on starting and then is quiet after it idles down.
Would co solder it, but the fact that it will be constructed at a new plant means it’s a good idea to wait a year
I hope the trunk a little bigger is better
Never had a Subaru but love this. How's the reliability? I'm looking to get a new/newer car soon and have been leaning towards Toyota
I saw bigfoot in the reflection of the door at 3m27s.
I'm probably going to end up deciding between the Crosstrek and the Mazda cx-30. Which would you choose?
I always loved that Subarus defaulted to 60/40 power front/rear. What’s the new split?
With CVT transmission 60/40 (50/50 with manual transmission). I think is the same split for 2024 models...
I'm not sure exactly, but my salesperson told me the tattoo changes depending on your speed. At high speed it's more front wheel drive, on trails it's controlled by x drive
how reliable long term do you feel about these CVT's? Does anyone have any experience with these CVT's long term? Long term to me is double that of the factory warranty so about ten years at least. 2 of my cars are 23 yrs old and on their original trans, only done fluid maintenance on them and they're fine today. Another one is 15 years old and have done just fine.
I ask because I keep seeing comments about how bad these cone and belt cvt's are, but I was hoping to find someone who actually has had them for long enough to tell me personal experience.
I know RAv's are a little different with the ecvt that are mechanically driven that have had no issues, but I'm cross shopping possible Foresters, Rav's, Crosstreks, etc.
Alex, can you explain why a shorter engine (4 cylinder boxer vs inline 4 cylinder) results in the engine being further forward? I don't quite get this. Thanks for the very excellent video with Brian - some of your best work IMHO 🙂
Just a guess. Boxer is 2 cylinders deep & inline 4 is 1 cylinder deep x 4 cylinders wide. The inline 4 has the transmission on its side & boxer has transmission after engine.
Imagine you're looking down on the engine from above. A 4cyl boxer will appear more like a square, while an inline engine will be a rectangle. Now imagine the rectangle is turned so the longer portion is going left/right. This leaves the shorter dimensions to go front/back. It ends up more narrow in that direction that the square-shaped boxer engine.
This difference in shape/dimensions means you need more space in the front for a boxer compared to an inline engine mounted transversely.
I think we have an old video on this, but in essence the entire engine and a portion of the transmission is in front of the axle vs most transverse engine vehicles where the engine is more or less in line or slightly in front.
2024 is really a minor refresh and not a new generation.
Not exactly. The platform has been overhauled and improved. This is more than a bumper refresh with a new center screen. 😉
They need to just start advertising the new price with destination. 1250 is crazy
How is the body roll in this SUV? With the lower center of gravity, does it handle more like a car?
Thanks Alex, nice review as always! Would appreciate your opinion on best location for a dash cam as the usual place behind the rear mirror is now occupied by additional (3rd) eyesight camera.
One number I never hear about much, is the *height* of the rear hatch area. 30" is the minimum I would be looking for, since that's the height of a typical large sized dog crate. Anything less is just a swoopy, good-looking wagon-like vehicle that's not as practical as the body style promises.
Hey Alex, The rear center shoulder belt can be disconnected at the buckle, and it retracts almost completely into the pillar where it's anchored. So, it's an issue only when you have a rear center seat passenger (which for me is almost never).
The outgoing model flunked the Insurance Institute's new-for-2023 heavier-vehicle side impact test pretty badly, even as some other smallish cars like the Honda Civic and Acura Integra came through pretty well. Does the new Crosstrek sort that out?
I'd expect it's performance to be similar to the current Forester which isn't terrible but isn't great.
I enjoyed Alex's reference to the Labrador requirement for future Impreza owners. I think you'll find, however, that most of the canine passengers in Subaru commercials are Golden Retrievers, not Labs. My own Golden takes offense at being confused with his short-haired Lab cousins. And he enjoys riding around in his Lexus RX.
I prefer labs
I am sad that there will no longer be a standard transmission option for Subaru.
I was driving my belovet VW Passat R36 with its low front bumper towards the bank to withdraw all my cash, when a WRX with road presentation zoomed past me and accidentally crushed a pair of vise grips on the road. Despite the minor incident, I continued on my journey, enjoying the scenic views and the feeling of the wind in my hair.
Thanks for reading my commend despite the fact it doesn’t have many likes.
Why does it cost the same as a larger forester?
Alternative? Maxda CX-30. Excellent and underrated.
Where it belongs.
Thanks for doing this video, Brian is a nice addition. Your videos are always comprehensive and informative. If only Subaru would give the option of a double din radio and a stick. And a turbo. If they're going to stick with a CVT (which is fine, I guess...) Why not get rid of the shifter? A few buttons and paddles is all that's needed. These are narrow cars, the more console space the better. Anyway, I ramble. For anyone new to Subaru, the Crosstrek is a great car, I've owned one for ten years and love it. Yes, it's the 2.0 CVT. We've driven it in 9 different countries including on the German Autobahn in excess of 100mph. Fantastic car with minimal maintenance necessary.
Great video, very informative ! thank you.
Always a great and thorough review. Thanks. What was that colour, Pure Red?
No manual option at any trim level is a mistake. Really disappointing.
There is no question that Subaru is a popular car especially in states with harsh winter conditions. However, I am own a 2003 Forrester for 20 years and they are expensive cars to maintain after 155,000 miles. The all-wheel drive system might be nice until you have a compromised axel boot. The cost for replacing one is over $400+ at the Subaru dealership. The other big issue are persistent oil leaks including the bell-housing area , which cost over $1400 to repair because they had to drop the boxer engine to fix it. Overall, within the last two years alone I spent $3000+ in repair costs. The cvt transmission although reliable is now showing it’s age. My car has 213,000 and I am ready for a new non Subaru model.
Foresters didn't get a cvt transmission until 2014, they had a 4 speed automatic in 2003. Also with an AWD vehicle like the vast majority of subarus you have to realize you have more points of failure, you got four cv joints (axles and boots) a driveshaft front to rear with bearings, a differential in the rear that no one ever seems to maintain and a cylinder layout that doesn't let the coolant fully drain from the heads (coolant become acidic over time and then eats the head gaskets). Rubber boots degrade over time, a stone, a nick, the climate you live in all takes a toll.
Alex, thank you for your videos. Based on your review of Subarus I just purchased an Ascent and LOVE it. Once I am ready for something smaller I will definitely be looking into the Crosstrek
I wonder why Subaru hasn’t offered their 1.8 Turbo in the US for the Crosstrek & Forester?
No PHEV version of this car?
Not yet…
If the Crosstrek had 8-way power seats in the Limited trim instead of 6-way I'd own one right now. I'm 6' 3" with long legs and I need that front of a car's seat to tip up to get more thigh support and a bit more legroom. I don't know why they even put a power seat in a car if it can't adjust more in range than a 6-way manual seat would.
Great video! But I do have a question. At 5:35 all models (2.0 and 2.5 engine) will get the same fuel economy?? Usually a 2.5 engine gets less MPG. Is the fuel tank in the 2.5 larger? and would you know the size of the fuel tanks for both?
Just a quick check on Subaru website, the 2.0 models get 28/33 MPG and 2.5 models get 27/34 MPG. I guess it's because the 2.0 engine is pretty old and the newer 2.5 engine is quite efficient. Fuel tank is 16.6 gal across all models.
Oh sorry I was looking at 23' models so the number I provided is wrong. Alex did mentioned in ~17:10 that both engine options offer similar fuel economy numbers.
Another great review Alex and Brian! Crosstrek are just plain fun!
Isn't Crosstrek literally lifted Impreza hatchback?
I just purchased a 2023 Outback Touring XT a few months ago (my 3rd Subie) and I mostly love it, especially the overall comfort and high end features, but it feels a bit too large on the road for my tastes. I also really wanted the turbo engine, but I kind of wish I'd waited for the 2024 Crosstrek Limited or even the next gen Forester Touring. Even though I'd have to sacrifice the turbo, I'd have saved thousands and the 2.5 is adequate power, if not thrilling. Excellent review, gents!
KIA Seltos SX AWD has Torque Vectoring/Center Lock, 1.6T with 175hp/195torque, 0-60mph under 7 seconds with the 7DCT. Has every feature on this Crosstrek minus the ground clearance and swiveling headlights. Instead it offers 63 cubic feet of cargo space, way better engine/performance, and rear air vents. Costs 30,865 fully loaded. Not sure what makes the Crosstrek similarly equipped worth 3K more.
No way! Have you driven one? It is super cheaply made. The seats are horrible and very small. The AWD System is not very capable. It is basically a Hyundai Accent/Kia Rio on stilts. It is way over priced for what it is. This is built on a much more sophisticated and refined platform. 😉
At least last time I checked my local Kia dealer was adding several thousand markup to pretty much all their vehicles.
While not a fan of the CVT for off-road, I have to admit its probably better than a DCT that will never do well is slow crawling situations. Subaru do seem to have one of the better CVT's and at least in the Wilderness trims have pretty much fixed any overheating of the transmission issues.
It's tragic that no M/T will be offered.😢