I love how Vinny refers to the emulator as PJ64 and not Project64. Because PJ64 was the original desktop icon for the emulator way back in the early 2000s.
@@based980It's not a "literal virus". It's pretty funny that the guy you're replying to is calling Vinny a boomer but doesn't even know what he's talking about himself. The easy way to explain it is like this; many old versions of Project 64 contain a security vulnerability. Nintendo 64 ROMs can be injected with malicious code that tells Windows to do what it wants when these ROMs are run on the vulnerable versions of PJ64. Nothing is going to happen if you're using clean ROMs, but it still shouldn't be taken lightly.
I am almost certain that they probably wanted to let you switch characters at any time, much like how you could in the Donkey Kong country games switching back and forth between Kongs. It was kind of a natural evolution, with the bonus of having different abilities for each one in DK64. In those older games it was instantaneous, it is hard to imagine that going from having done that to doing DK64 that they didn't think about that at all-- I'm sure it was just infeasible technologically in the leadup to 1999 or perhaps they just did not have the time or resources to change it.
To some extent, I agree. In the same way emulator rewind features goes against the developer's vision. But how important that is depends on the game's design. DK64 had TEDIOUS design. Sure, you are not supposed to collect all of the CBs and coins to 101% the game, but there is still too much back-tracking in the game.
@@cassandrawadsworth8186 I meant in a collecting items kind of way, but I'm fairly certain Beaver Bother is more frustrating than the hardest boss in any fromsoft game
i legitimately wonder what was going on at rare to result in dk64 being designed in this particular way, because it's amazing how much gets streamlined by the simple ability to switch between kongs on the fly without needing to backtrack to a barrel.
yeah, it really makes the game so much more fun to play, reminiscent of how it was as a kid. its always had a great foundation but there's no way rare didn't playtest the game during development and think "actually the tag barrel kinda sucks"
Many people criticize this, but maybe it was also due to limitations, I don't think it was easy to program a button to change characters so easily back then.
Wow what an incredible summary of exactly what this video is about. Good job you watched it too! Fucking shut up with these pointless comments. The internet is already filled with bots.
I think the aim was to make each Kong feel like a new experience through a level, but it all fell apart in the later levels where banana balloons for a kong are just plopped at the end of a route made for another kong entirely, and trails of them will just swap colors rapidly or lead to a wall that needs another kong to open.
I didn't even mind switching monkeys as a kid because time felt infinite back then. I was just happy to have video games. This is great as an adult, though. That being said, I'm just gonna wait for the inevitable decompile and PC port to get back into this. I have been spoiled by the OoT, Majora, Perfect Dark and Starfox decomps, that's just hands down the best way to enjoy N64 games.
Most of my time in DK64 was running around places that we'd already full cleared and accomplishing exactly nothing. It was a great game for me as a kid cause I didn't know what was happening; if I tried to play it now, I'd just be focused on progression, and I'd probably get annoyed with it quickly
You can tag anywhere, you can randomize everything, you can even play as Chunky Kong in his disco suit I dunno guys, Donkey Kong 64 might be in the running for GOTY 2025
If anyone has enjoyed seeing this FINALLY work out, I recommend looking up DK64 randomizer races. A lot of cool tech, and a very enjoyable thing to even just watch if you're at all familiar with the game. Also there's custom music, including some Red Vox songs.
He had one too many burgs at the diner, his poor gorilla heart couldn't take the intense amounts of grease (Randy Pitchford levels) throughout the years. That's why he wears a striped shirt like that. He likes frequenting diners. Specifically Steak n' Shake.
That's due to how the cutscenes are handled, it doesn't just "move the camera" to a spot, it has *extra cameras* for those cutscenes. You don't just "move the view" you literally change cameras. Same thing with most N64 games, the actual architecture is pretty wild. If the game doesn't "pan the camera" for a cutscene what it's doing is "Swapping to Camera 2" which are all set up for old-school 3:4 ratio TV's. To "fix" this, you'd need to find every cutscene that uses a camera swap, *standardize them* and place them back, then *test* and see if it even works. Most times it does, but it can easily overwhelm the bus that draws to the screen, or has images *streeeetch* so big that the original concept is changed. Rogue Squadron has similar issues. Wide-screen flying with lens stretching is a good combo for nausea; combine with resolution swapping for every action and you'll get motion sickness easily. Only way would be to go in and manually fix every camera, and for zero pay. Not many people want to do that, especially for free, and once money is involved suddenly ancient publishers and copyright holders will emerge.
@EddieSpaghetti69 That makes no sense. Video games don't use physical cameras with different properties. The screen is a framebuffer, and you choose what gets written to that. If you need the camera to go somewhere else, you move the viewport. Swapping between hardcoded separate framebuffers is novice programming and Rare were absolutely not novices. The reason the cutscenes are stuck in 4:3 is the same old story: they weren't designed for widescreen, so there's culling and frozen character models and other stuff that you weren't supposed to see just outside the edges of the field of view in 4:3. Faced with this dilemma, the choices were to do cropped widescreen (bad becuse you might lose critical details and shots might look weird) or do pillarboxed 4:3. The ideal solution would be to go back and edit every cutscene to ensure that it looks correct in widescreen, but there was no time for that, so they had to go with the solution that had the fewest drawbacks, which was pillarboxing.
@@alfiehicks1 you misunderstand what a "camera" is in this context. they're not actually separate framebuffers or anything like that. they're a collection of presets including factors like FOV, culling distances, lists of which "layers" are rendered or not, rendering modes (if applicable), what to point at, splines to follow for movements, and so on. every modern engine works this way, as do most older 3d ones. anyway, since anamorphic widescreen is achieved by just setting the horizontal and vertical FOVs such that the horizontal one is significantly larger than the vertical one, if a cutscene camera hard-codes the FoV values, and doesn't have a second set of FoV values for widescreen mode, then the cutscene reverts to 4:3.
I feel like this game's shortcomings were made up for by the sheer charm, at least as a kid. Among the trifecta of Mario 64, Banjo, and DK64, this one was my favorite back then. Now I'd have to give it to Mario with Banjo as a close second. The whole "DK64 killed platformers" thing is largely bunk IMO, they were still relevant on the PS2 and GC.
@herosshade2247 Yeah pretty much, I didn't finish DK64 or most N64 games but I would end up getting used copies of games with completed save files and just explore the worlds sandbox style
GTA killed platformers. They made Jak and Daxter, then their focus testing with kids said they'd rather play GTA (they were asked this in front of other kids so of course they said that) and that's why Jak 2 gave him a gun and let him rampage. If you look at the only non-Mario non-Sonic platformer that survived, it's Ratchet and Clank because they had guns built in so they didn't have to change.
I definitely get what it’s like for something you love to be over. My favourite franchise has been dead for a while before I rediscovered it a few years ago (at least, everything I liked about it is gone from official material now), but I’m content with that. There’s plenty of amazing fan works, my favourite parts are still easily available, and there’s even notes from the deceased original creator that get rediscovered on occasion. A lot of other media I love are abandoned or completed projects too, and I’m mostly just happy that they exist at all rather than sad about it being over.
This triggered memories of Joel taking forever to unlock Tiny and the sand/pyramid level in his ancient DK64 playthrough. I looked it up because i remember people saying Virtual Console was the then best way to play vanilla DK64. He started it on my birthday in 2016, oof almost 9 years ago. I finished Kazooie as a kid and wanted to play Tooie but never did. I was 10yo and N64 carts where ludicrously expensive, i had more pc games. N64 was getting long in the tooth around 2000/2001 too. Later people shat on Tooie like DK64 so i never did play it. Even at the time the padding in DK64 annoyed people, it's NES levels of make this game last by adding bs. I also think open level collectathons just kinda evolved into more combat oriented platformers with collectables like Sly Cooper, the Lego games, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank... Open world world went the direction of GTA and Spider Man 2 (ps2) but maybe I'm wrong.
Vinny talking about different adaptations and how interpretations tend to differ from the author's vision, made my mind go immediately to Lupin III. How you can have completely different iterations of a character and franchise, while still having them be successful and beloved.
Every single time, without a hitch, whenever we hear that record squeak, we start a sing-along. It happens almost universally, and it fills me with great joy every time I witness it.
I don't see if I can be real too I think the camera is kind of a weird sick joke that kind of reminds me of coffin 19 and all the family murders that kind of happened anyways that's kind of off topic but I think the camera rolls imply that the N64 was a black box that was secretly taking photographs of players while they were playing it throughout time
Bizhawks dk branch is the emulator i personally prefer. Dk Randomizer also adds quick checks, and makes alot of segments way faster, or easier. You dont even need to randomize anything, you can just set it as vanilla with QOL features
Also to note, the Z button slows your aim down when aiming first person. The randomizer also has features to help reduce lag, as well as automatically start you with the fairy camera and shockwave for maximum backtrack cutting
Also The reason why dk64 is so laggy and having issues for you is pretty exclusively tied to using project 64, or poorly adjusted emulators trying to run DK64. Not only that DK64s engine is heavily tied to the frame rate so if its improved to a modern fps its what causes walking through walls and things to not register right. Now there is alot of improvements done, and I believe they've even fixed the frame rate issue, and game world collision tied to it, but its something I don't mess with, as I for the most part prefer the original fps for speedrun tricks.
would LOVE to get a tooie stream to see if he still hates it, and maybe a full play though if he doesn't hate it as much. been watching his rare replay banjo kazooie streams recently to fall asleep, but i don't think i've ever seen tooie in its full
I actually recall spikevegeta (a DK64 rando speed runner) SEVERAL years ago talked to the devs about the swap anywhere feature. And they they *wanted* to do something like this on console but memory limits/time prevented them so they just shoved it into the bsck up barrel system
Was shocked to see this in my feed. Excited but shocked. Like others, I'm not sure how I had the patience to 100% this as a kid. Despite how much fun I had playing it, I always thought it was strange how you couldn't change characters like in this mod. Will definitely play it eventually.
This game's negative inpact on its genre and the tedium of its content are generally really overstated but make no mistake, this is absolutely "Bloat: The videogame". The whole concept behind bonus barrels alone is just kind of strange, in retrospect.
@@8Kazuja8A Hat in Time's director cited it as the reason collectathon platformers fell out of the mainstream when he was interviewed before the game came out.
@@AluminumFusion22 So? No offense to the guy but he was in all likelihood a kid when DK64 came out. I don't think he really has the industry insight into why the collectathon fell out of fashion back then and why. You were still seeing games of this type deep into Gamecube/PS2 era and they still did well. DK64 didn't kill the genre.
As a kid I never noticed the Kong switching as being tedious, to me figuring out which Kong I needed felt like solving a puzzle. The frustrating thing for me was all the timed stuff, since I didn't have the nerves or skill to do things under pressure.
I'd want Vinny to do the DK64 randomizer just to make sure he hears the custom sountracks and notices the red vox tracks that have been converted to midi and uses the DK64 soundfont.
I remember hearing that Miyamoto just felt a regular gun didn't fit thematically and asked them to change it. Don't remember hearing him being horrified, but Rare thought he would be.
TBF Miyamoto seeing Donkey Kong with a real gun for the first time would've probably been equivalent to showing someone Shotgun Mario 64 today. Dude was probably just mildly bemused by the tonal whiplash of a cartoon ape pulling out his real-ass weapon, no more, no less. I guess it makes sense that Rare feared a worse reaction, seeing that some japanese developers were extremely protective over how their mascots could be used even back then.
"This isn't the way the developers intended it to be played" I'm pretty sure Carmack and Romero didn't intend for HDoom to exist, but that's not going to stop me.
Yeah, no shit to the old devs. But I'm sorry, if your original intention involves me playing all the levels 5 times at minimum just to see the credits, then that vision may be a bit outdated. Rom hacks have been around for years, I don't see the problem.
So many fucking bots it is annoying they quit putting links to porn websites on their bios but still bet if you click on the linked creator on their channels it still has a link to adult sites
Idk i'll always like Dk64 and it feels like once a year, I'll play through the game and try to learn speedrun tricks or randomize the game. I never really had an issue with collecting stuff besides the beetle races, and frankly the Tag Barrel wasn't that annoying to go back to. All I did was play as 1 kong at a time, full complete them in a level and unlock any doors that needed their instrument/gun. Then swapped off to another Kong when I didn't need them anymore, so I wasn't just swapping off every time I saw a barrel and I never really got bored. Idk maybe i'm just crazy, I was also the same kid that played Lego racers through 100% without being able to save and having to restart every time I booted it up.
it being by chance might be about right, given the original donkey kong is cranky kong, donkey kong jr from the old games is the current donkey kong's dad
DK64 is honestly not as bad as some people make it out to be, and I was happy to see this mod without the technical difficulties this time. With the one real issue of DK64 (mostly) mitigated this seems like the definitive way to play.
I will say I've never gone from, "I will never play this game." to, "I am highly interested in this game." so drastically just from one small change of instant character swapping.
How did somebody in chat know to tell him to set counter factor to 1, but NOT know that you have to restart the emulator for the changes to go into effect???? Watching the chat argue themselves into thinking the framerates had improved at all was a trip. Also, you 100% should be able to transfer an n64 game save from a vanilla rom to a modded rom, provided that no core game code for item IDs, locations, music, etc. is changed. If all that's changed is the camera functionality and the framerates, I don't see why the save data would be incompatible across a vanilla rom and 'Vanilla But Better'. I've used saved across several different versions of the same Mario 64 romhacks, for example, with no issue. If Vinny is still interested in playing more DK64, somebody needs to tell him it'd be pretty easy to pick things up on the mod people were talking about with no need to replay anything. Although, if he wants to just wait for the decomp version of the game, that would probably be a better experience anyways.
Considering Vin's talking about N64 platformers, I wonder if he'd try Rocket: Robot on Wheels, which was an early Sucker Punch game, pre-Sly Cooper, and it's quite good, from what I tried.
Oh really? Vinny never beat Mischief Makers? Hope you can give a quick two parter one day. Game is pretty shot but it has some of the flashiest bosses I've ever seen the n64 pull off.
I definitely look at Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask As kind of the same game, sort of like how not much actually changes going from Half-Life 2 to the episodes, Like sure they're technically different games but not really.
Majora's Mask had to be rushed out in a year because Miyamoto gave Aonuma a challenge. Zelda fans were originally going to get Ura Zelda but Aonuma requested that the team make an entirely new game and Miyamoto gave them a year to make it, so that's why the game reused so many Ocarina of Time assets.
Vinny if you're going to play Banjo-Tooie (which you really should, as it does NOT require a mod to be playable) play the NSO version. The slowdown is gone, and unlike emulation the sounds aren't off sync.
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Twitch Chat Replay ► chatreplay.stream/videos/faxnxApyABI
Twitch VOD got muted so that's why I'm here. Thank you whoever made chat replay! restorn I think.
Vinny - Banjo-Tooie: The Redemptioning when?
Vinesauce: The Full Sauce
search engines stopped working long before AI
I wait for the day that I can also relevantly say, "Listen, after the DK Rap, I'll explain everything."
I'm rooting for you. The more urgently you get to say it the better
Me when my wife catches me cheating on her (I use Nintendo soundtracks to set the mood)
@@名もない人404"And this time, he's in the mood"
Somehow the actual real DK rap feels more sentence chopped than the parodies do.
She's quick and nimble...
And quick and nimble...
And Quick... And Nimble...
He's the leader of Korea
He's got diarrhea
He's finally back
To say mamma mia
I've grown too used to hearing other sentence mixing/remixes of the rap, I tend to expect weirdness to happen when I listen to the og
D K
DONKEYDONKEY
C G
Coconut
Gun
I love how Vinny refers to the emulator as PJ64 and not Project64. Because PJ64 was the original desktop icon for the emulator way back in the early 2000s.
Also the fact that he's playing a severely outdated emulator that's also a literal virus speaks volumes to his boomerism.
@@NIMPAK1 its a virus?
What source points to it being a virus? @NIMPAK1
@@based980It's not a "literal virus". It's pretty funny that the guy you're replying to is calling Vinny a boomer but doesn't even know what he's talking about himself.
The easy way to explain it is like this; many old versions of Project 64 contain a security vulnerability. Nintendo 64 ROMs can be injected with malicious code that tells Windows to do what it wants when these ROMs are run on the vulnerable versions of PJ64.
Nothing is going to happen if you're using clean ROMs, but it still shouldn't be taken lightly.
veerus
It is mandatory to let the DK rap play all the way through.
"The tag anywhere mod goes against the original vision."
Yeah, and some people need glasses.
People wear makeup, that goes against your original looks. What a silly argument lol, sometimes hacks are the best way to play some games.
@@theattila567 Just like Newer Super Mario Bros Wii is the best way to experience New Sup Wii /s
>Pol Pot didnt like this
I am almost certain that they probably wanted to let you switch characters at any time, much like how you could in the Donkey Kong country games switching back and forth between Kongs. It was kind of a natural evolution, with the bonus of having different abilities for each one in DK64. In those older games it was instantaneous, it is hard to imagine that going from having done that to doing DK64 that they didn't think about that at all-- I'm sure it was just infeasible technologically in the leadup to 1999 or perhaps they just did not have the time or resources to change it.
To some extent, I agree. In the same way emulator rewind features goes against the developer's vision.
But how important that is depends on the game's design.
DK64 had TEDIOUS design. Sure, you are not supposed to collect all of the CBs and coins to 101% the game, but there is still too much back-tracking in the game.
Guts The Kong silently staring at you in the thumbnail
Glad to see no hour long technical issues this time.
no multiple restarts with DK going "OKAY" on boot up
Vinny makes separate uploads for the technical issues. Look for the Red Vinesauce mushroom.
If you think about it, Elden Ring is the spiritual successor to DK64
Elden Ring walked so Donkey Kong could hip thrust.
My boyfriend helped me with so many mini games and he described it as being as frustrating as battle toads. 😂
@@cassandrawadsworth8186 I meant in a collecting items kind of way, but I'm fairly certain Beaver Bother is more frustrating than the hardest boss in any fromsoft game
@ the one where you gotta get the beavers in the hole?! Screw that mini game. 😂
"Care to elaborate?"
*"No."*
Vinny gonna regret saying "Donkey Kong's juicy ass" on the next Commercial Chaos
"i never said that!"
"Okay may be i did*
Not the most incriminating thing he said about DK.
1:07:20 if you want it
i legitimately wonder what was going on at rare to result in dk64 being designed in this particular way, because it's amazing how much gets streamlined by the simple ability to switch between kongs on the fly without needing to backtrack to a barrel.
yeah, it really makes the game so much more fun to play, reminiscent of how it was as a kid. its always had a great foundation but there's no way rare didn't playtest the game during development and think "actually the tag barrel kinda sucks"
Many people criticize this, but maybe it was also due to limitations, I don't think it was easy to program a button to change characters so easily back then.
Wow what an incredible summary of exactly what this video is about. Good job you watched it too! Fucking shut up with these pointless comments. The internet is already filled with bots.
Christmas rush. Probably knew it was arduous but had to get something out and it was too late to implement changes.
I think the aim was to make each Kong feel like a new experience through a level, but it all fell apart in the later levels where banana balloons for a kong are just plopped at the end of a route made for another kong entirely, and trails of them will just swap colors rapidly or lead to a wall that needs another kong to open.
I'll never forget Vinny attempting to do this for the first time and the issues that followed
What was the issues? Which stream?
@@vedrisnightmare Literally 6 years ago lol. Video is called Donkey Kong 64: Character Swap Mod [Excessive Troubleshooting Edition]
"WHAT A TRAINWRECK OF A STREAM"
@@KbanjoKhow the fuck has it been 6 years already…
Vinny briefly talking about Berserk while playing Donkey Kong 64
This year is off to an interesting start already
I'm sorry but when I think of the word Berserk I don't think of the manga I think of the arcade game with "Evil Otto"
@@Curlyheartnot to be confused with crazy otto.
I didn't even mind switching monkeys as a kid because time felt infinite back then. I was just happy to have video games. This is great as an adult, though.
That being said, I'm just gonna wait for the inevitable decompile and PC port to get back into this. I have been spoiled by the OoT, Majora, Perfect Dark and Starfox decomps, that's just hands down the best way to enjoy N64 games.
Most of my time in DK64 was running around places that we'd already full cleared and accomplishing exactly nothing. It was a great game for me as a kid cause I didn't know what was happening; if I tried to play it now, I'd just be focused on progression, and I'd probably get annoyed with it quickly
@@coryman125 just get rid of the fomo mindset and move on to the next area when you can
You can tag anywhere, you can randomize everything, you can even play as Chunky Kong in his disco suit
I dunno guys, Donkey Kong 64 might be in the running for GOTY 2025
All Nintendo has to do is take this build of the game and repackage it as Donkey Rekonged. Game of the year right there.
Decay, Donkey Kong
The Decayer App
Holy shit how did I not see that before
This game foretold Diddy going to jail.
Overdone joke.
can't wait for dk64 to come to switch online and a whole new generation has to experince pain
If anyone has enjoyed seeing this FINALLY work out, I recommend looking up DK64 randomizer races. A lot of cool tech, and a very enjoyable thing to even just watch if you're at all familiar with the game.
Also there's custom music, including some Red Vox songs.
I second this, the randomizer is constantly being updated with new features/mechanics and the community is super friendly.
choking on the spite in DK64 font is great
"This game was made in a cave." - many DK64 Randomizer players
he's 100% going to purchase Donkey Kong Country Returns HD and stream it (despite saying otherwise)
The allure of the Dong is too powerful to resist
And then there's Chunky!
He's dead...
D K CHUNKY’S DEAD
He had one too many burgs at the diner, his poor gorilla heart couldn't take the intense amounts of grease (Randy Pitchford levels) throughout the years.
That's why he wears a striped shirt like that. He likes frequenting diners. Specifically Steak n' Shake.
"He's bloated, stinky and rotting too!
Rest easy, Kong. We won't be forgetting you...
..DEE. KAY."
Cranky Kong getting his PhD in his quest to bioengineer a new natural enemy for Italians.
and thus he creates the Gabba Ghoul
I find it funny that DK64's widescreen mode only works properly during gameplay, and turns off during cutscenes
That's due to how the cutscenes are handled, it doesn't just "move the camera" to a spot, it has *extra cameras* for those cutscenes. You don't just "move the view" you literally change cameras. Same thing with most N64 games, the actual architecture is pretty wild. If the game doesn't "pan the camera" for a cutscene what it's doing is "Swapping to Camera 2" which are all set up for old-school 3:4 ratio TV's. To "fix" this, you'd need to find every cutscene that uses a camera swap, *standardize them* and place them back, then *test* and see if it even works. Most times it does, but it can easily overwhelm the bus that draws to the screen, or has images *streeeetch* so big that the original concept is changed.
Rogue Squadron has similar issues. Wide-screen flying with lens stretching is a good combo for nausea; combine with resolution swapping for every action and you'll get motion sickness easily. Only way would be to go in and manually fix every camera, and for zero pay. Not many people want to do that, especially for free, and once money is involved suddenly ancient publishers and copyright holders will emerge.
@EddieSpaghetti69 That makes no sense. Video games don't use physical cameras with different properties. The screen is a framebuffer, and you choose what gets written to that. If you need the camera to go somewhere else, you move the viewport. Swapping between hardcoded separate framebuffers is novice programming and Rare were absolutely not novices.
The reason the cutscenes are stuck in 4:3 is the same old story: they weren't designed for widescreen, so there's culling and frozen character models and other stuff that you weren't supposed to see just outside the edges of the field of view in 4:3. Faced with this dilemma, the choices were to do cropped widescreen (bad becuse you might lose critical details and shots might look weird) or do pillarboxed 4:3.
The ideal solution would be to go back and edit every cutscene to ensure that it looks correct in widescreen, but there was no time for that, so they had to go with the solution that had the fewest drawbacks, which was pillarboxing.
@@alfiehicks1 you misunderstand what a "camera" is in this context. they're not actually separate framebuffers or anything like that. they're a collection of presets including factors like FOV, culling distances, lists of which "layers" are rendered or not, rendering modes (if applicable), what to point at, splines to follow for movements, and so on. every modern engine works this way, as do most older 3d ones. anyway, since anamorphic widescreen is achieved by just setting the horizontal and vertical FOVs such that the horizontal one is significantly larger than the vertical one, if a cutscene camera hard-codes the FoV values, and doesn't have a second set of FoV values for widescreen mode, then the cutscene reverts to 4:3.
Guts Kong is something I hate, but at the same time needed.
He's the leader of The Band
No wait they're dead
He's lost a hand
Gotta kill his friend
I feel like this game's shortcomings were made up for by the sheer charm, at least as a kid. Among the trifecta of Mario 64, Banjo, and DK64, this one was my favorite back then. Now I'd have to give it to Mario with Banjo as a close second. The whole "DK64 killed platformers" thing is largely bunk IMO, they were still relevant on the PS2 and GC.
Yeah like, you didn't really play games to beat them back then. You would rent them for a while and trade them for another one when you got bored.
@herosshade2247 Yeah pretty much, I didn't finish DK64 or most N64 games but I would end up getting used copies of games with completed save files and just explore the worlds sandbox style
GTA killed platformers. They made Jak and Daxter, then their focus testing with kids said they'd rather play GTA (they were asked this in front of other kids so of course they said that) and that's why Jak 2 gave him a gun and let him rampage. If you look at the only non-Mario non-Sonic platformer that survived, it's Ratchet and Clank because they had guns built in so they didn't have to change.
1:23:40 vinny playing PM64? yes please
DK64 is such a vibe, loved it despite the flaws.
Why is diddy in jail
Let's just say it's for Dong related crimes, it's hard to describe
Something about having tons of coconut oil
*SO THEY'RE FINALLY HERE*
*PERFORMING FOR YOU*
*IF YOU KNOW THE WORDS YOU CAN JOIN IN TOO*
PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER
*IF YOU WANNA CLAP*
AS WE TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS MONKEY RAP
never let vinny talk about Tooie again
Banjo Kazooie: Hawk Tooie?
Banjo Tooie was my goat as a child, yes it was VERY unforgiving.
I definitely get what it’s like for something you love to be over. My favourite franchise has been dead for a while before I rediscovered it a few years ago (at least, everything I liked about it is gone from official material now), but I’m content with that. There’s plenty of amazing fan works, my favourite parts are still easily available, and there’s even notes from the deceased original creator that get rediscovered on occasion.
A lot of other media I love are abandoned or completed projects too, and I’m mostly just happy that they exist at all rather than sad about it being over.
This triggered memories of Joel taking forever to unlock Tiny and the sand/pyramid level in his ancient DK64 playthrough. I looked it up because i remember people saying Virtual Console was the then best way to play vanilla DK64. He started it on my birthday in 2016, oof almost 9 years ago.
I finished Kazooie as a kid and wanted to play Tooie but never did. I was 10yo and N64 carts where ludicrously expensive, i had more pc games. N64 was getting long in the tooth around 2000/2001 too. Later people shat on Tooie like DK64 so i never did play it. Even at the time the padding in DK64 annoyed people, it's NES levels of make this game last by adding bs. I also think open level collectathons just kinda evolved into more combat oriented platformers with collectables like Sly Cooper, the Lego games, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank... Open world world went the direction of GTA and Spider Man 2 (ps2) but maybe I'm wrong.
banjo tooie is great, you just need to think a lot about map layout and ignore cannery marry
i want to see a rareware employee play this fucking game the way they intended
I really don't know how I had the patience to beat this as a kid
Vinny talking about different adaptations and how interpretations tend to differ from the author's vision, made my mind go immediately to Lupin III. How you can have completely different iterations of a character and franchise, while still having them be successful and beloved.
Bro said he wasn't going to do it. Look how far we came.
Now the question is
Did the chat sing along with the DK rap
Every single time, without a hitch, whenever we hear that record squeak, we start a sing-along. It happens almost universally, and it fills me with great joy every time I witness it.
No, I played this video in the background while scrolling Twitter
@@CaseyFrazAnimationsthat doesn't mean you weren't still singing along ᵕ̈
You know the words so you can join in too
I don't see if I can be real too I think the camera is kind of a weird sick joke that kind of reminds me of coffin 19 and all the family murders that kind of happened anyways that's kind of off topic but I think the camera rolls imply that the N64 was a black box that was secretly taking photographs of players while they were playing it throughout time
Bizhawks dk branch is the emulator i personally prefer.
Dk Randomizer also adds quick checks, and makes alot of segments way faster, or easier.
You dont even need to randomize anything, you can just set it as vanilla with QOL features
Also to note, the Z button slows your aim down when aiming first person. The randomizer also has features to help reduce lag, as well as automatically start you with the fairy camera and shockwave for maximum backtrack cutting
Also The reason why dk64 is so laggy and having issues for you is pretty exclusively tied to using project 64, or poorly adjusted emulators trying to run DK64. Not only that DK64s engine is heavily tied to the frame rate so if its improved to a modern fps its what causes walking through walls and things to not register right.
Now there is alot of improvements done, and I believe they've even fixed the frame rate issue, and game world collision tied to it, but its something I don't mess with, as I for the most part prefer the original fps for speedrun tricks.
would LOVE to get a tooie stream to see if he still hates it, and maybe a full play though if he doesn't hate it as much. been watching his rare replay banjo kazooie streams recently to fall asleep, but i don't think i've ever seen tooie in its full
35:57 who's gonna tell him?
1:28:20 personal timestamp
After robertsons like those, Flurrie in TTYD is just the next logical step
I actually recall spikevegeta (a DK64 rando speed runner) SEVERAL years ago talked to the devs about the swap anywhere feature. And they they *wanted* to do something like this on console but memory limits/time prevented them so they just shoved it into the bsck up barrel system
Poosi bots are coming in at full force today huh.
Was shocked to see this in my feed. Excited but shocked.
Like others, I'm not sure how I had the patience to 100% this as a kid. Despite how much fun I had playing it, I always thought it was strange how you couldn't change characters like in this mod. Will definitely play it eventually.
I feel like it'd be worth going the extra step and making it so all kongs can collect each other's stuff as well.
10:56 smooth cut, Johnson
I see dong, I clap and laugh
Do you squee? You'd better squee..
24:00 but more specifically 24:25
The game is called The The Legend Legend of of Zelda Zelda - - Ocarina's Majora of Mask Time
46:43 Your impression was hilarious 😂
This game is like hilariously complicated for a kids game. There’s so many mechanics and weird puzzle Busy work.
This game's negative inpact on its genre and the tedium of its content are generally really overstated but make no mistake, this is absolutely "Bloat: The videogame".
The whole concept behind bonus barrels alone is just kind of strange, in retrospect.
@@8Kazuja8A Hat in Time's director cited it as the reason collectathon platformers fell out of the mainstream when he was interviewed before the game came out.
@@AluminumFusion22 So? No offense to the guy but he was in all likelihood a kid when DK64 came out. I don't think he really has the industry insight into why the collectathon fell out of fashion back then and why.
You were still seeing games of this type deep into Gamecube/PS2 era and they still did well. DK64 didn't kill the genre.
1:18:39 "Her big supernaturals"
Peak. Utterly killed me.
Awesome that Vinny is doing this!
Fun fact - the expansion pack for DK64 was for the vertex lighting.
why is cranky teaching me about pounding.......😔
He's finally back.
To smoke some crack
I would kind of loved the alternate reality dk 64 if instead of being horrified he leaned into the guns and lanky was just hauling around a glock
I'm so happy they fixed the game
As a kid I never noticed the Kong switching as being tedious, to me figuring out which Kong I needed felt like solving a puzzle. The frustrating thing for me was all the timed stuff, since I didn't have the nerves or skill to do things under pressure.
I'd want Vinny to do the DK64 randomizer just to make sure he hears the custom sountracks and notices the red vox tracks that have been converted to midi and uses the DK64 soundfont.
I remember hearing that Miyamoto just felt a regular gun didn't fit thematically and asked them to change it. Don't remember hearing him being horrified, but Rare thought he would be.
I had heard somewhere that when he heard about the gun he looked shocked, but then quickly sketched out the coconut gun.
TBF Miyamoto seeing Donkey Kong with a real gun for the first time would've probably been equivalent to showing someone Shotgun Mario 64 today. Dude was probably just mildly bemused by the tonal whiplash of a cartoon ape pulling out his real-ass weapon, no more, no less.
I guess it makes sense that Rare feared a worse reaction, seeing that some japanese developers were extremely protective over how their mascots could be used even back then.
@@8Kazuja8 I mean, before giving Mario the fire flower he originally wanted Mario to just use a gun, but it didn't fit the theme so he changed it
Donkey Guts?
getting stretched
I did a quintuple take when I saw the thumbnail lol
That got me confused but im here for it ngl
Donkeyodeon Guts
Diddy’s yelp when he jumps sounds like the selection sound from Petscop lol (idk if that makes sense or not, but listen to both and you’ll understand)
Fun Fact; Kiddy Kong and Chunky Kong are brothers.
1:32:45
Okay, I just played Anton Blast and am not very familiar with DK64 so that shook me a little bit. Thought that was an original sound effect.
"This isn't the way the developers intended it to be played"
I'm pretty sure Carmack and Romero didn't intend for HDoom to exist, but that's not going to stop me.
Coomercide now.
Yeah, no shit to the old devs. But I'm sorry, if your original intention involves me playing all the levels 5 times at minimum just to see the credits, then that vision may be a bit outdated. Rom hacks have been around for years, I don't see the problem.
Been waiting for this one. Hell yeah.
Yes, DK64 and the music
these ai comments in the first minutes you post are crazy
What determines the emoji they use? It seems so random. 🛖🐑🥿
So many fucking bots it is annoying they quit putting links to porn websites on their bios but still bet if you click on the linked creator on their channels it still has a link to adult sites
Hmm. And how are we sure that you are not a bot?
They're the most dedicated fans, we should be more like them.. 😞
It's criminal how underappreciated Jet Force Gemini is.
1:41:40 I'm now imagining Mr Dink saying this to Doug lol!
i played this myself last year it makes the game so much better
Idk i'll always like Dk64 and it feels like once a year, I'll play through the game and try to learn speedrun tricks or randomize the game. I never really had an issue with collecting stuff besides the beetle races, and frankly the Tag Barrel wasn't that annoying to go back to. All I did was play as 1 kong at a time, full complete them in a level and unlock any doors that needed their instrument/gun. Then swapped off to another Kong when I didn't need them anymore, so I wasn't just swapping off every time I saw a barrel and I never really got bored. Idk maybe i'm just crazy, I was also the same kid that played Lego racers through 100% without being able to save and having to restart every time I booted it up.
I didn't remember the DK rap being this rough. XD
it being by chance might be about right, given the original donkey kong is cranky kong, donkey kong jr from the old games is the current donkey kong's dad
The McRib bit at 1:42 was so funny hahaha
The purple banana coins specifically look really tasty to me, look like sweet tarts
When is Nintendo going to admit that the Jungle Japes anthem is just Stool Pigeon by Kid Creole and the Coconuts?
I beg that Vinny checks out some of the randomizer races just to see what the amazing community has done for this game, it's honestly astounding^^
Why do I have no recollection of there being voice acting in this game?
Because there basically isn't apart from the opening cutscene and the announcer in the final boss fight.
Probably merged memories from Bad Fur Day, they have similar text bubbles.
There are very minor instances of voice acting, such as the "Well Done!" sound-byte and "Welcome To Bonus Stage!" as well.
21:20 Has Vinny never played the Rayman series? I would easily consider Rayman 2 to be in the top 5 best platformers on the N64.
I miss old rayman so bad. Pirates and hoodlums were so good even if the final bosses made me mad for two very different reasons each
57:18 I think this is the point in the game where my dad gave up and told four year old me that that was the entire game and we beat it 😂
1:02:47 nope, it was definitely this dumb armadillo that he couldn’t beat
DK64 is honestly not as bad as some people make it out to be, and I was happy to see this mod without the technical difficulties this time. With the one real issue of DK64 (mostly) mitigated this seems like the definitive way to play.
Personally I'd rather have a mod that removes all the minigames. Granted, that's like 90% of the game.
Other DK games came out on the switch but not this game..wonder why
King K Rool sounds like a mix between Darth Vader and Dr Claw.
Next time Donkey…NEXT TIME!
I will say I've never gone from, "I will never play this game." to, "I am highly interested in this game." so drastically just from one small change of instant character swapping.
Fair to say Chunky is pretty low on the gorm scale.
How did somebody in chat know to tell him to set counter factor to 1, but NOT know that you have to restart the emulator for the changes to go into effect???? Watching the chat argue themselves into thinking the framerates had improved at all was a trip.
Also, you 100% should be able to transfer an n64 game save from a vanilla rom to a modded rom, provided that no core game code for item IDs, locations, music, etc. is changed. If all that's changed is the camera functionality and the framerates, I don't see why the save data would be incompatible across a vanilla rom and 'Vanilla But Better'. I've used saved across several different versions of the same Mario 64 romhacks, for example, with no issue.
If Vinny is still interested in playing more DK64, somebody needs to tell him it'd be pretty easy to pick things up on the mod people were talking about with no need to replay anything. Although, if he wants to just wait for the decomp version of the game, that would probably be a better experience anyways.
Madlad Johnny with the clean cut.
Considering Vin's talking about N64 platformers, I wonder if he'd try Rocket: Robot on Wheels, which was an early Sucker Punch game, pre-Sly Cooper, and it's quite good, from what I tried.
Oh really? Vinny never beat Mischief Makers? Hope you can give a quick two parter one day. Game is pretty shot but it has some of the flashiest bosses I've ever seen the n64 pull off.
Pretty sure i watched the same RUclips video Vinny did. I also dont remember the channel
My life is so different now compared to the first time holy hell
I definitely look at Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask As kind of the same game, sort of like how not much actually changes going from Half-Life 2 to the episodes, Like sure they're technically different games but not really.
Majora's Mask had to be rushed out in a year because Miyamoto gave Aonuma a challenge.
Zelda fans were originally going to get Ura Zelda but Aonuma requested that the team make an entirely new game and Miyamoto gave them a year to make it, so that's why the game reused so many Ocarina of Time assets.
1:00:31 The timing and the music when the wall breaks is unexpectedly funny.
Now all that's left is to play the Mario 64 DS analogue mod.
Vinny if you're going to play Banjo-Tooie (which you really should, as it does NOT require a mod to be playable) play the NSO version. The slowdown is gone, and unlike emulation the sounds aren't off sync.
Goldeneye is basically a perfect port as well, outside of the leaked Xbox 360 remaster or the Mouse and Keyboard mod.
Why not just play the Xbox 360 version? It runs at 1080p 60fps and has dual analogue controls for the FPS levels.
Funky ASMR when?