I got to test drive a Grand Cherokee diesel today, and I was pretty impressed with it. The torque this thing puts out really makes it get up and go, and it doesn't feel like you're going as fast as you are. Its amazing how quiet the engine is too, you can hardly tell it's a diesel! Chrysler needs to put this engine in the 300, I bet they wouldn't have any trouble selling it.
I did the math and if you do 15,000 miles a year it would cost you approximately $2364 for the diesel, $2607 for the V6, and $3041 for the V8. Pricing used is $3.65 for regular gas and $3.94 for diesel, as it was at my local Sam's Club today. The diesel is $4500 more than the V6 and $2195 over the V8. You have to keep it for 3.4 years to start saving money over the V8, or 18.5 years to start saving over the V6. This assumes the diesel gets 25 MPG, V6 at 21 MPG, and V8 at 18 MPG.
The 8 speed is licensed from ZF. It really is a bigger feat than most people would think. Even the technology used to make the components is vastly different than what was previously used. They really had to do a lot of work to bring that one to market.
Awesome Review Guys! Love that 14' Cherokee. I'd love to see a review on the VW Toureg TDI executive.. its about the same price, size and MPG as the new Cherokee.. Those two would make a great 'mash up'.. Keep up the great work!!
I got one here in the land down under, I love it, it’s smooth,quiet,fast, and I find the controversial gear shift ok, if Not always in a hurry that shouldn’t be a problem, it’s the only car I have ever come across when parked in the Garage and running I can’t even smell anything, compaired to my old ford AU falcon which totally stunk, this thing Is amazing, imajine a diesel no smoke what so ever and zero smell, you won’t believe it until you do it, for argument Sake I used to hitch the caravan behind the ford while the car was running, I had to take a brake because The exhaust was over powering, with this Jeep there is absolutely nothing just warm air, no word of a lie.
This is an interesting SUV, but I noticed no one mentioned the fuel economy figures for the city, which I best most Grand Cherokees will be driven. Plus, the diesel's 30 mpg figure that was talked up is for the 2WD version, and I can't imagine anyone buying a diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee in anything other than 4WD. Then there's the high cost of diesel in the U.S. In my area it runs about 75¢ more than regular unleaded. I think the latter cost is why a lot of people don't prefer diesels.
My 3700 pound 2001 Cherokee classic 4.0 I6 gets 17 mpg norm 19.9 mpg tops. My old 3400 pound 2001 Subaru Outback with the flat 4 could not bust 21 mpg. If they can get 28 mpg out of this 5000 pound beast. That is amazing. The VW TDi gets crazy mileage all the time no matter how hard you push it. Most of my friends get over 44 mpg with any form of that car.
i just love that diesel clatter from the Jeep. Sure u might not here it on the hway or normal drving but with all that torque at 2000rpm thats just amazing
Very exciting that we are finally getting the option to buy diesel's in this market but I would like to know how long it would take to get a savings on this suv over the base model. If you have to pay a $2k premium for the diesel version, plus more for each gallon of fuel and more for maintenance how many miles will it take to start seeing the financial benefit of its better mpg? Maybe 3 or 4 years is my guess.
I think most people are cross shopping the diesel with the V8 for the torque. The V8 uses mid grade gas and there is a 7 or 8 mpg difference. I read somewhere that the break even point would be 35,000 miles.
Yes and VW's adblue is something new too. That's why they can call it "clean diesel". It uses around 3 gallons per 8-10k miles and costs about 25.00 to refill the tank. Scary thing is, if you run the tank dry (adblue), the car will not start/run.
This engine has actually been in the export versions of the Grand Cherokee since it came out in 2011. Chrysler has been using VM Motori engines in export models since the early 90's. I've seen one of these broken down and it is very impressive. Gale Banks has been testing this engine and says it will easily overrun the 7800 RPM limit of his controller. That is very impressive for a diesel. It is also the only aluminum head, dual overhead cam diesel on the market. If Ferrari made diesels.
Is it from the angle of the camera, or is it shifting way below redline? Looks like just under 4K. I know the diesel revs a lot lower, but it looks like redline starts at about 4,500 rpm.
I live in New York State where has prices are the highest in the nation. Diesel fuel is more expensive in America because very few vehicles use Diesel engines. However, diesel only costs 35 cents more per gallon. Just to clear things up.
It's great that Chrysler is bringing their Euro diesel technology to the NA market. One thing that bugs me though it the fact that the diesel engine is only available in the top trim level. I would like to see a base model with the diesel power plant as well.
The VM Motori V6 Jeep is using is very similar to the Benz engine. It will be interesting to see how this engine performs in the Ram. (and hopefully eventually the Wrangler)
They are 2015. They are testing the Diesel on the GC to see how the public responds. If it is favorable the Wrangler will get one. Now which diesel will they put in the wrangler is still unknown.
I have a diesel F350 with a 7.3 International. I like diesels, but am not sure if a Grand Cherokee is the right application for a diesel. If you are going to keep it for 250,000 miles, then it is worth it.
A comment was made about the "sound" of the car. So what? Is it any different then the ROAR of a dual exhaust hemi or a strait pipe Harley? I remember as a teen that I use to turn my breather cap over to get the "roar" out of the engine when you pressed down on the gas just a little. Some like the roar and some of us like the clatter that a diesel makes. It's the sound of toque and low end power (and great fuel mileage).
Still trying to keep it friendly, so I admit that you're correct on all points. Here are some counterpoints -Diesel engines typically have longer service lives than gas engines -Diesel maintenance interval are typically further apart -Diesel engines that use urea for emission control typically has 10,000 service intervals Just friendly banter.
No, I'm not talking about harmful emissions. Regen is what keeps the exhaust clean. I'm just asking how often your car regenerates. 43 mpg average is good, but that's slightly better than what most people see with real world conditions. People that only make short, cold runs will frequently see regens because their DPF systems struggle to burn the exhaust.
I have 25.6 after 500 miles driving in my overland v6 pentastar.Really good,I drove from Pennsylvania to Orlando, Florida(20)hours with just $90 in gas each way.
BINGO. Just purchased a 2013 Passat TDI SEL. Looked at the hybrid jetta but to small in the back seat (got a kid 6ft2, 240lbs. Head hit the roof. So, we opted for the Passat. And I agree. I have 3 other gas cars in my drive/garage. 2 Jeep Libertys and one 2011 town and country. Got 50.1 mpg twice on a 600 mile trip and used up almost 3/4 tank of fuel. Heck my jeep would have needed no less then 2 fill ups and holds 3 gals more fuel. Jeep's good for off road/bad weather. That's about it.
That's what I'm referring to. They said "likely". May not be the same as a promise but they've been pretty good at trying to listen to the customers. I'm just hopeful. They've done it before with the '05-'06 diesel Liberty and the '07-'08 diesel Grand Cherokee.
Well it all depends on your needs, i know that if i want to buy a Jeep and i also occasionally tow things, i would rather have the 30 mpg diesel engine, when towing, (depending on what it is) you will probably see around 20 mpg. Now put the 22mpg Hemi in, you will see about 8mpg when towing. So it really all depends on your needs. I don't know to much about the Lexus so correct me if I'm wrong but i would imagine it doesn't do to good offroad unlike the legendary Jeep, to each his own right?
I chose the V6 SEL Premium because it's trim level is the same as mine. Even if I took the 4cyl SEL, there are just a few differences, like 18 inch wheels do not come on the 5 banger. But even going with that model is a little over 2k less then the TDI. I think the fuel savings for a road warrior can recoup that in fuel savings. Fixing diesel is more expensive then a gas engine, however, life, durability and overall savings justify it. IMO
With the 8 speed transmission and EcoDiesel engine, the 2 wheel drive variation achieves 30 mph highway. That paired with a 24.6 gallon fuel tank gives you a 730 mile range. The main culprit is the large fuel tank. Most vehicles that achieve this kind of gas mileage have a much smaller fuel tank.
The best dollar to performance option is the V6. All of my friends and family that own the GC have the Hemi powered overland. For them if they like the diesel they will buy it. The fact that they will not have to fill up for 6 to 700 miles is a plus. With the Hemi you fill up every few days. Time is money especially for someone dropping 50+k on an automobile. In an SUV diesel's are just much nicer to drive. I drove a few in Europe they are lovely on the hwy and easily exceed their MPG ratings.
To each there own, so I'm not trying to start an argument here. I just wanted to point out if you calculate operational cost per mile diesel wins. In other words you pay more up front but get more return on your cost.
2011, 2012 Jeeps with diesel, with Pentastar and Hemi had no issues in Europe with reliability. Jeep WK2 is probably the first American car that is matching European quality and reliability.
in the late 80's I had a Isuzu pup (Chevy Love) that the worst MPG I got was 43 mpg. The best I got was 50 MPG driving it like a Prius . 4cylinder non turbo diesel. VW a few years back had a little known option for their Tourage, aV-10 diesel that would spank the Durango Hemi
I dont know how good is the new engine but what I know is that the MB one is a really good realiable one. I think it would be a good ideal to but that V6 on the Ram.
@ Richard Ľapin Your driving a compact car and comparing your mileage to a Jeep? Go put 2000lbs in your car and report your mileage and see if you can do 0-60 in less than 8 sec. This is a heavy SUV, 30MPG is pretty good compared to the hemi or some of the previous engines it had. Can your 2.0-liter diesel Škoda Octavia Combi Tow 7200lbs too?????
top, bottom, side LOL. My 09 Liberty tips over 4000lbs dry ;-) but I've taken some turns at a high speed and it rolls a bit but not what I would consider too bad. Now that I've put a 3inch lift on it and it's got stiffer springs/shocks, it doesn't roll much at all, especially roll over....
Actually, it wasn't a rendering at all. It has been unveiled due to an online leak which showed the SUV. Its the first car that Jeep has made under Fiat ownership and will be shown at the New York Autoshow, later this year. If you still don't agree, check on the autocar website.
all say 39? so it happens to be exactly 1mpg less than i said, not only that, but i found some station wagons from the 90s that got more than 39 mpg, i do admit that some passats might get less than 40, but from what i've observed, most reviews and drivers get about 40 mpg or so with passats and golfs
I have a 07 PT Cruiser that I use as my commuter. It has been 100% reliable and cheap to maintain. I live in ATL but conduct business & have Family in FL, TN, & SC. All of my destinations are within a 6 hour (Max) drive. I normally take 2 other adults, & (as often as I can) my son who is still in a car seat. I'm looking for a vehicle that will offer more space/ comfort than my commuter. I would like the best fuel milage I can get with a larger vehicle. I tend to prefer wagons to sedans. Thx
Or instead of going to the dealer for urea you can go to the nearest Pilot truck stop and they carry it for around 2.79/ gal compared to 5-7 at the dealer
I like the sound of diesels. Diesels are so much better than gas motors. I hope Chrysler put this diesel motor in the wrangler. Who knows about the future maybe offer this motor in cars.
If you keep up on the oil, filter, air filter and fuel filters, they will run forever. There are a lot of diesel pickups with outrageous mileage on them. The fuel filter are crucial on a diesel.
Diesels aren't the majority of engines sold globally, it's only a handful of countries that favor diesel fuel. But even that's changing with rising diesel prices.
7.77 seconds? That's incredible considering the ZF's 8 speed automatic transmission with its tricks for faster acceleration and improved fuel economy with the diesel.
Ford does seem like they'er on the up-swing. The MDX is on my short list. I think I was enamored by the concept of modern diesels. My mind ran to old Mercedes diesels that I know of, some still running today. I still think that if the modern diesel using modern emissions can be as (if not more) reliable as gas engines, then the alternative could be very viable. You've been great. Thx
This doesnt seem like a great improvement since I have a 97 5.9l I6 12v that gets 22 mpg and can get even better so now 16 years later it still gets the same mpg and its almost half the engine size? and mind you mine is a 3/4 ton truck getting that mileage. The VW passat has the best new TD by far getting 1600 miles to a tank
I do know that the more you let your car idle, the lower your MPG average goes. I think that's a known given. But regardless, the diesel still burns less, idel or flying down the highway. And I'm sure a Volt setting at idle will drain it's battery just the same.
How long will it take you to earn back the $5,000 diesel engine upgrade cost, in fuel savings? I'm still waiting to see the first suburban soccer mom who takes her $60,000 JGC Summit rock crawling. I'm sure all that increased torque will come in handy at the Neiman-Marcus dept. store parking lot.
Common,People don't bash a diesel, operating cost is less, the only maintenance you do is add oil,but when they brake down,brace yourself it will cost an arm and a leg... I never thought i would say this but I would consider a Jeep for the first time in my life Diesel version only...
You're half right. Hybrids aren't good for people that do little city driving. But it's not true that all hybrids cost more to service. The Prius has a 10k mile service intervals. A hybrid's Brake pads also last much longer because regenerative braking reduces the need for regular braking. Everything about having to service or replace parts of the hybrid system every few years is a myth or rumor. These thing typically last the life of the car without the owners have to worry about them.
I sincerely hope so. I've had a fair share of hybrid related horror stories circulating here and there. But I've heard that most dealers charge significantly more for a hybrid service, and due to the complex electronics in the thing your average neighbourhood mechanic can only scratch their heads. All in all, the Prius is a great poster-child of a quirky idea well executed. If only it drove more like a car and less like an appliance...then the VW TDI would have serious competition.
If it's an engine with no emissions controls, that would be true. The 2013 Jetta TDI is rated at 40 mpg highway with the dual clutch (42 hwy with the manual). Nothing great about that. Most small and midsize sedans return 35-42 miles per gallon highway with gas engines. I've owned diesels with and without emission controls. The drop in mileage and reliability is unbelievable.
It can be as much as $1.00 (US Dollar) more per US gallon. The national record average for gasoline was $4.11 in June or July of 2008... I believe diesel was $4.85 at that time. The current average for diesel right now is about $4.05 to $4.15 per US gallon. Even the more expensive summer blended gasoline is still cheaper than diesel by $0.30 to $0.60 a gallon.
Most modern gas engines now have 5k up to 15k servicing. -- Funny, my owners manual to my 2011 Town and Country says 7k but the dealer still says every 3k and explained why. The scary thing is, I have 3 Chrysler dealers within a 5 mile radius of me. Why car says 15k? My TDI says 10k in the manual and that's what the deal says. My first 3 services are FREE and at 75 a pop, saves me some bucks. My Liberty came with 12 oil changes when I got it in 2009. They get you anyway they can in the end.
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Good point. FYI: The numbers for the 4X4 Diesel Grand Cherokee are 21 City and 28 Highway. Thanks for the comment.
I got to test drive a Grand Cherokee diesel today, and I was pretty impressed with it. The torque this thing puts out really makes it get up and go, and it doesn't feel like you're going as fast as you are. Its amazing how quiet the engine is too, you can hardly tell it's a diesel! Chrysler needs to put this engine in the 300, I bet they wouldn't have any trouble selling it.
remap it and you get 300hp
I did the math and if you do 15,000 miles a year it would cost you approximately $2364 for the diesel, $2607 for the V6, and $3041 for the V8. Pricing used is $3.65 for regular gas and $3.94 for diesel, as it was at my local Sam's Club today.
The diesel is $4500 more than the V6 and $2195 over the V8. You have to keep it for 3.4 years to start saving money over the V8, or 18.5 years to start saving over the V6. This assumes the diesel gets 25 MPG, V6 at 21 MPG, and V8 at 18 MPG.
My dad just got a HEMI Overland. The 8-speed really makes this vehicle take on a different character. Its awesome!
The 8 speed is licensed from ZF. It really is a bigger feat than most people would think. Even the technology used to make the components is vastly different than what was previously used. They really had to do a lot of work to bring that one to market.
I like when you guys drive with the sunroof or show the panoramic sunroof it's so awesome
Ok, OK ALREADY! You guys are having WAY TO MUCH FUN! Nathan's smile says it all.
Awesome Review Guys! Love that 14' Cherokee. I'd love to see a review on the VW Toureg TDI executive.. its about the same price, size and MPG as the new Cherokee.. Those two would make a great 'mash up'.. Keep up the great work!!
I got one here in the land down under, I love it, it’s smooth,quiet,fast, and I find the controversial gear shift ok, if
Not always in a hurry that shouldn’t be a problem, it’s the only car I have ever come across when parked in the
Garage and running I can’t even smell anything, compaired to my old ford AU falcon which totally stunk, this thing
Is amazing, imajine a diesel no smoke what so ever and zero smell, you won’t believe it until you do it, for argument
Sake I used to hitch the caravan behind the ford while the car was running, I had to take a brake because
The exhaust was over powering, with this Jeep there is absolutely nothing just warm air, no word of a lie.
This is an interesting SUV, but I noticed no one mentioned the fuel economy figures for the city, which I best most Grand Cherokees will be driven. Plus, the diesel's 30 mpg figure that was talked up is for the 2WD version, and I can't imagine anyone buying a diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee in anything other than 4WD. Then there's the high cost of diesel in the U.S. In my area it runs about 75¢ more than regular unleaded. I think the latter cost is why a lot of people don't prefer diesels.
My 3700 pound 2001 Cherokee classic 4.0 I6 gets 17 mpg norm 19.9 mpg tops. My old 3400 pound 2001 Subaru Outback with the flat 4 could not bust 21 mpg. If they can get 28 mpg out of this 5000 pound beast. That is amazing. The VW TDi gets crazy mileage all the time no matter how hard you push it. Most of my friends get over 44 mpg with any form of that car.
i just love that diesel clatter from the Jeep. Sure u might not here it on the hway or normal drving but with all that torque at 2000rpm thats just amazing
please review the 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee trailhawk 5.7L v8!
Very exciting that we are finally getting the option to buy diesel's in this market but I would like to know how long it would take to get a savings on this suv over the base model. If you have to pay a $2k premium for the diesel version, plus more for each gallon of fuel and more for maintenance how many miles will it take to start seeing the financial benefit of its better mpg? Maybe 3 or 4 years is my guess.
I think most people are cross shopping the diesel with the V8 for the torque. The V8 uses mid grade gas and there is a 7 or 8 mpg difference. I read somewhere that the break even point would be 35,000 miles.
21 City/28 Hwy is pretty impressive considering the size and weight of this vehicle.
That's for the Overland Summit. I'm sure you could get the diesel in a limited or laredo for much less.
Yes and VW's adblue is something new too. That's why they can call it "clean diesel". It uses around 3 gallons per 8-10k miles and costs about 25.00 to refill the tank. Scary thing is, if you run the tank dry (adblue), the car will not start/run.
This engine has actually been in the export versions of the Grand Cherokee since it came out in 2011. Chrysler has been using VM Motori engines in export models since the early 90's. I've seen one of these broken down and it is very impressive. Gale Banks has been testing this engine and says it will easily overrun the 7800 RPM limit of his controller. That is very impressive for a diesel. It is also the only aluminum head, dual overhead cam diesel on the market. If Ferrari made diesels.
Actually it comes from Getrag...which also builds the Audi transmission.
Is it from the angle of the camera, or is it shifting way below redline? Looks like just under 4K. I know the diesel revs a lot lower, but it looks like redline starts at about 4,500 rpm.
I live in New York State where has prices are the highest in the nation. Diesel fuel is more expensive in America because very few vehicles use Diesel engines. However, diesel only costs 35 cents more per gallon. Just to clear things up.
Is Chrysler is building this transmission under licence from Getrag. Is Getrag shipping finished transmissions?
have you seen the photos of it in white with black body cladding? looks 10x better
I think you missed a car to cross shop. VW Touareg TDI. What is your opinion of the VW vs the Jeep?
It's great that Chrysler is bringing their Euro diesel technology to the NA market. One thing that bugs me though it the fact that the diesel engine is only available in the top trim level. I would like to see a base model with the diesel power plant as well.
The VM Motori V6 Jeep is using is very similar to the Benz engine. It will be interesting to see how this engine performs in the Ram. (and hopefully eventually the Wrangler)
The engine is made in a little town in Italy called Cento :D
congratulations on your discovery
They are 2015. They are testing the Diesel on the GC to see how the public responds. If it is favorable the Wrangler will get one. Now which diesel will they put in the wrangler is still unknown.
I have a diesel F350 with a 7.3 International. I like diesels, but am not sure if a Grand Cherokee is the right application for a diesel. If you are going to keep it for 250,000 miles, then it is worth it.
It was 420 lb-ft torque right? Because in the vid it said 420 kb-ft torque.
A comment was made about the "sound" of the car. So what? Is it any different then the ROAR of a dual exhaust hemi or a strait pipe Harley? I remember as a teen that I use to turn my breather cap over to get the "roar" out of the engine when you pressed down on the gas just a little. Some like the roar and some of us like the clatter that a diesel makes. It's the sound of toque and low end power (and great fuel mileage).
Very cool review.
Is that $1 USD per gallon or litre? It is $1.50 AUD/litre over here at the moment, which is about $1.60/litre or near $6 USD per US gallon.
Still trying to keep it friendly, so I admit that you're correct on all points. Here are some counterpoints
-Diesel engines typically have longer service lives than gas engines
-Diesel maintenance interval are typically further apart
-Diesel engines that use urea for emission control typically has 10,000 service intervals
Just friendly banter.
Do you work for V.W.? The Tourareg is a beautiful trouble prone beast. Good luck with that one.
No, I'm not talking about harmful emissions. Regen is what keeps the exhaust clean. I'm just asking how often your car regenerates. 43 mpg average is good, but that's slightly better than what most people see with real world conditions. People that only make short, cold runs will frequently see regens because their DPF systems struggle to burn the exhaust.
I have 25.6 after 500 miles driving in my overland v6 pentastar.Really good,I drove from Pennsylvania to Orlando, Florida(20)hours with just $90 in gas each way.
BINGO. Just purchased a 2013 Passat TDI SEL. Looked at the hybrid jetta but to small in the back seat (got a kid 6ft2, 240lbs. Head hit the roof. So, we opted for the Passat. And I agree. I have 3 other gas cars in my drive/garage. 2 Jeep Libertys and one 2011 town and country. Got 50.1 mpg twice on a 600 mile trip and used up almost 3/4 tank of fuel. Heck my jeep would have needed no less then 2 fill ups and holds 3 gals more fuel. Jeep's good for off road/bad weather. That's about it.
That's what I'm referring to. They said "likely". May not be the same as a promise but they've been pretty good at trying to listen to the customers. I'm just hopeful. They've done it before with the '05-'06 diesel Liberty and the '07-'08 diesel Grand Cherokee.
Well it all depends on your needs, i know that if i want to buy a Jeep and i also occasionally tow things, i would rather have the 30 mpg diesel engine, when towing, (depending on what it is) you will probably see around 20 mpg. Now put the 22mpg Hemi in, you will see about 8mpg when towing. So it really all depends on your needs. I don't know to much about the Lexus so correct me if I'm wrong but i would imagine it doesn't do to good offroad unlike the legendary Jeep, to each his own right?
I love that you guys keep doing jeep! Keep it up!
I chose the V6 SEL Premium because it's trim level is the same as mine. Even if I took the 4cyl SEL, there are just a few differences, like 18 inch wheels do not come on the 5 banger. But even going with that model is a little over 2k less then the TDI. I think the fuel savings for a road warrior can recoup that in fuel savings. Fixing diesel is more expensive then a gas engine, however, life, durability and overall savings justify it. IMO
With the 8 speed transmission and EcoDiesel engine, the 2 wheel drive variation achieves 30 mph highway. That paired with a 24.6 gallon fuel tank gives you a 730 mile range. The main culprit is the large fuel tank. Most vehicles that achieve this kind of gas mileage have a much smaller fuel tank.
The best dollar to performance option is the V6. All of my friends and family that own the GC have the Hemi powered overland. For them if they like the diesel they will buy it. The fact that they will not have to fill up for 6 to 700 miles is a plus. With the Hemi you fill up every few days. Time is money especially for someone dropping 50+k on an automobile. In an SUV diesel's are just much nicer to drive. I drove a few in Europe they are lovely on the hwy and easily exceed their MPG ratings.
You guys didnt bother to ask WHY they put Chrylser 300 headlamps on a Jeep GC?
my 2014 ecodiesel doesn't say CRD on the engine cover.... this one did
sooooo excited for the next video
cant wait to see italian tdi in the 3500lb wrangler..0-60 mid 6's?
To each there own, so I'm not trying to start an argument here. I just wanted to point out if you calculate operational cost per mile diesel wins. In other words you pay more up front but get more return on your cost.
TFLCar kicks ass! Thanks for the review. By the way, did you get to review the Summit's Harmon/Kardon premium sound system?
What is Euria and what is a KB-FT of torque at 5:30? Nice video guys! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the info , I really didn't know that, I tough Jeep had only use MB diesel engine for their model, its good to know ! Have a nice day ! :)
2011, 2012 Jeeps with diesel, with Pentastar and Hemi had no issues in Europe with reliability. Jeep WK2 is probably the first American car that is matching European quality and reliability.
It's not a Land Rover? That's why I'd buy one.
do the new desiel vehicles have auto regen settings programability for when the vehicle is not in use?
I didn't see that you replied.
What do you plan to use your vehicle for?
Thank you for the feedback!
in the late 80's I had a Isuzu pup (Chevy Love) that the worst MPG I got was 43 mpg. The best I got was 50 MPG driving it like a Prius . 4cylinder non turbo diesel. VW a few years back had a little known option for their Tourage, aV-10 diesel that would spank the Durango Hemi
The eco diesel spanks the hemi too.
I dont know how good is the new engine but what I know is that the MB one is a really good realiable one. I think it would be a good ideal to but that V6 on the Ram.
over here you can get a v6 diesel with about 200hp. a friend of mine got a black one. nice car.
@ Richard Ľapin
Your driving a compact car and comparing your mileage to a Jeep? Go put 2000lbs in your car and report your mileage and see if you can do 0-60 in less than 8 sec. This is a heavy SUV, 30MPG is pretty good compared to the hemi or some of the previous engines it had. Can your 2.0-liter diesel Škoda Octavia Combi Tow 7200lbs too?????
Good points and Europeans also forget that a US gallon is smaller than theirs too
One of these without all the bells and whistles would be perfect. Even better would be cramming this diesel engine into the Wrangler.
top, bottom, side LOL. My 09 Liberty tips over 4000lbs dry ;-) but I've taken some turns at a high speed and it rolls a bit but not what I would consider too bad. Now that I've put a 3inch lift on it and it's got stiffer springs/shocks, it doesn't roll much at all, especially roll over....
I love your videos!
When is Chrysler gonna put the diesel and 8 speed in a wrangler?
Actually, it wasn't a rendering at all. It has been unveiled due to an online leak which showed the SUV. Its the first car that Jeep has made under Fiat ownership and will be shown at the New York Autoshow, later this year. If you still don't agree, check on the autocar website.
all say 39? so it happens to be exactly 1mpg less than i said, not only that, but i found some station wagons from the 90s that got more than 39 mpg, i do admit that some passats might get less than 40, but from what i've observed, most reviews and drivers get about 40 mpg or so with passats and golfs
I have a 07 PT Cruiser that I use as my commuter. It has been 100% reliable and cheap to maintain. I live in ATL but conduct business & have Family in FL, TN, & SC. All of my destinations are within a 6 hour (Max) drive. I normally take 2 other adults, & (as often as I can) my son who is still in a car seat. I'm looking for a vehicle that will offer more space/ comfort than my commuter. I would like the best fuel milage I can get with a larger vehicle. I tend to prefer wagons to sedans. Thx
Or instead of going to the dealer for urea you can go to the nearest Pilot truck stop and they carry it for around 2.79/ gal compared to 5-7 at the dealer
I like the sound of diesels. Diesels are so much better than gas motors. I hope Chrysler put this diesel motor in the wrangler. Who knows about the future maybe offer this motor in cars.
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That's supposed to be LB-FT of torque right? Or am I stupid and missing some other unit?
sport shift mode is fun too
If you keep up on the oil, filter, air filter and fuel filters, they will run forever. There are a lot of diesel pickups with outrageous mileage on them. The fuel filter are crucial on a diesel.
If it gets 700 miles on a tank how big is the tank?
I am very interested in this Jeep now because of the diesel and curious to know if anyone is planning performance upgrades for this engine
Diesels aren't the majority of engines sold globally, it's only a handful of countries that favor diesel fuel. But even that's changing with rising diesel prices.
I personally advocate for jeep to do something new. I want a diesel jeep wrangler 3.0 but on a low end trim or a new jeep pickup. Love the scrambler
Do you count how many times your car's DPF regenerates?
7.77 seconds? That's incredible considering the ZF's 8 speed automatic transmission with its tricks for faster acceleration and improved fuel economy with the diesel.
I can't wait for the next video American muscle all the way
Ford does seem like they'er on the up-swing. The MDX is on my short list. I think I was enamored by the concept of modern diesels. My mind ran to old Mercedes diesels that I know of, some still running today. I still think that if the modern diesel using modern emissions can be as (if not more) reliable as gas engines, then the alternative could be very viable. You've been great. Thx
If they are putting this motor in the ram I hope they still keep the Cummins in the 2500/3500
This doesnt seem like a great improvement since I have a 97 5.9l I6 12v that gets 22 mpg and can get even better so now 16 years later it still gets the same mpg and its almost half the engine size? and mind you mine is a 3/4 ton truck getting that mileage. The VW passat has the best new TD by far getting 1600 miles to a tank
I do know that the more you let your car idle, the lower your MPG average goes. I think that's a known given. But regardless, the diesel still burns less, idel or flying down the highway. And I'm sure a Volt setting at idle will drain it's battery just the same.
I'm a GM Duramax Turbo - Diesel guy, but now that Jeep came out with this, I think I just found my future road trip vehicle.
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Can't wait for the next video :) .... X5M ,, GTS ,, SRT8... Yesssssss
I was always told Jeep's were top heavy? is that true?
How long will it take you to earn back the $5,000 diesel engine upgrade cost, in fuel savings? I'm still waiting to see the first suburban soccer mom who takes her $60,000 JGC Summit rock crawling. I'm sure all that increased torque will come in handy at the Neiman-Marcus dept. store parking lot.
J High don't get a diesel lmao
Where can i buy the right hand drive model of this vehicle?
Common,People don't bash a diesel, operating cost is less, the only maintenance you do is add oil,but when they brake down,brace yourself it will cost an arm and a leg...
I never thought i would say this but I would consider a Jeep for the first time in my life Diesel version only...
You're half right. Hybrids aren't good for people that do little city driving. But it's not true that all hybrids cost more to service.
The Prius has a 10k mile service intervals.
A hybrid's Brake pads also last much longer because regenerative braking reduces the need for regular braking.
Everything about having to service or replace parts of the hybrid system every few years is a myth or rumor. These thing typically last the life of the car without the owners have to worry about them.
I sincerely hope so. I've had a fair share of hybrid related horror stories circulating here and there.
But I've heard that most dealers charge significantly more for a hybrid service, and due to the complex electronics in the thing your average neighbourhood mechanic can only scratch their heads.
All in all, the Prius is a great poster-child of a quirky idea well executed. If only it drove more like a car and less like an appliance...then the VW TDI would have serious competition.
If it's an engine with no emissions controls, that would be true. The 2013 Jetta TDI is rated at 40 mpg highway with the dual clutch (42 hwy with the manual). Nothing great about that. Most small and midsize sedans return 35-42 miles per gallon highway with gas engines. I've owned diesels with and without emission controls. The drop in mileage and reliability is unbelievable.
It can be as much as $1.00 (US Dollar) more per US gallon. The national record average for gasoline was $4.11 in June or July of 2008... I believe diesel was $4.85 at that time. The current average for diesel right now is about $4.05 to $4.15 per US gallon. Even the more expensive summer blended gasoline is still cheaper than diesel by $0.30 to $0.60 a gallon.
WHY DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS TORMENT ME! I'M A POOR COLLEGE STUDENT WHO WANTS THAT CAR!
Most modern gas engines now have 5k up to 15k servicing.
-- Funny, my owners manual to my 2011 Town and Country says 7k but the dealer still says every 3k and explained why. The scary thing is, I have 3 Chrysler dealers within a 5 mile radius of me. Why car says 15k? My TDI says 10k in the manual and that's what the deal says. My first 3 services are FREE and at 75 a pop, saves me some bucks. My Liberty came with 12 oil changes when I got it in 2009. They get you anyway they can in the end.
Will there be a diesel grand Cherokee L?
Time to trade in my '99 GC! I would sure love that kind of range. I could drive across Texas with a single tank!