I know right, he closes his eyes and gives an ''oh great this f*cking guy'' expression🙄😕😕 and turns to give an expression of 😃happiness. The facial expression is really good
@@Donfrak It does make complete sense. He trusted him, but he was also fed up with him at that point. It's not always a pleasant thing having someone constantly second guessing your wisdom and experiences.
Galadriel, to her servants 2 minutes earlier: "Spread out the dress evenly! Make it look good! When they come in, I have to turn around slowly and it has to look super-cool!!"
The main issue being that they stretched a book of 300 pages into a 9 hour trilogy. For commercial not for artistic reasons. The preferred way of doing that was adding random shit that was not in the original material. So, no, adding this scene was not brilliant. It was adding to the bloated mess that was The Hobbit by introducing popular characters from LOTR who were never mentioned in the book.
@@JasonGabler scene is nt. the appendices say tht 3 Nazgul occupied Dol Guldur afteR SAURON RETURNED TO mmORDOR- THIS IS WhY gALADRIEL KEEPS HER RING SECRET- IF THE nAZGUL FoNDSHE HD THE RING THEY WOULD ATTACK!
@@omnivorous65 no. At the end of the hobbit book gandalf tells Bilbo why he left just before the dwarfs entered Mirkwood- Saruman had agreed an attack on Dol Guldur because he knew Sauron was stirring and looking for the ring. They didnt know it was Saureon, they only thpught it ws a necromancer. so thois secene was fully justified
@@gaynzz6841 The subtitles are out of view. But, he said "Age may have changed me. But not so the lady of Lorien." Saying that she's as beautiful as ever.
@gaynzz6841 Yeah, Gandalf was being cheeky quite frankly (😂). Not only is Galadriel immortal, but her ring of power provides the timelessness power that is present in Lothlorien. So not only is she immortal, but her ring prevents aging as well... 🤣👍
I’m convinced that the glow around Galadriel isn’t FX. I think cate blanchett just naturally turns it on when playing Galadriel, she feels and looks like a being sent from the highest heavens
Yes, when Saruman starts interrupting Gandalf again, you can see Galadriel give Saruman a slow, subtle look of harrowing suspicion as she moves only her eyes from Gandalf to Saruman. Excellent physical acting choice and execution by Blanchett and by Jackson directing. That one, slow, burning look captures Tolkien’s emphasis upon Galadriel’s reluctance about Saruman’s lead status in the council that *she* called into being. (I also always wondered a bit about that-why didn’t Galadriel lead the White Council? Then again, according to Tolkien’s unflappable sense of English protocol, it would be improper for the one who summons or convenes a council by his or her authority to lead that same body of members. Great flourishes and details.)
@@thahoule7924 Yes, by far. It's not even close. I love Jackson's work and Blanchette's portrayal, but even this is a little too much girlboss for Tolkien's character. There would have been a kind of social peerage between these four, but Gandalf would not have been deferential and subservient to Galadriel. And the elves would have known exactly whom they're dealing with.
@@farid1406 I mean the book might portray d/t hiararchy but Galadriel was the one who banished Sauron when even Saruman and Gandalf couldn't in the Hobbits.
@@creamrisesup The books are the ultimate canon, but even in the film, she was using a phial with water with the light of Earendil's star to drive him away, not just her own power. If given a weapon of that magnitude, both Saruman and Gandalf could have driven Sauron off with much less difficulty. Gandalf put up a decent fight with just his natural power, and he wasn't fully upgraded to White yet. TLDR, Galadriel was amped, and is much less powerful and lower in stature than the Istari who are angels that helped God create the Universe.
Saruman spent literal centuries delaying and dragging the feet of the White Council, precisely because he had already made up his mind to turn to darkness. He put them off the scent of Sauron because, at minimum, he was going to ally with Sauron and be a powerful captain when Sauron ruled Middle-Earth. But his real preference was to be the Dark Lord himself, which is why he lulled everyone into thinking that the Ring had long ago rolled down the Anduin to the sea. In reality, Saruman had long had servants dredging the Anduin for the Ring, and may even have chosen to settle in Isengard because of its proximity to the River, where he always suspected the Ring to be.
I believe Galadriel knows Saruman plans, she left him speak to understand and know what was important for the dark lord. I even feel that she is making fun of Saroman in a subtle way. Galadriel used telepathy to communicate with Gandalf and reveals her true intention’s. Elron also knew that Saruman is a traitor. Gandalf was the only one who didn't know the truth.
As Sauron served Morgoth so Saruman would serve Sauron. Each evil grows more petty and derivative, from Morgoth's ring to Sauron's derivative, and so the ring Saruman wore was the Many Coloured. Tolkien brilliantly sets creation as an entropy that can only be escaped by the destruction of Ea, and so the unknitting of Morgoth's evil from Being...
@@deut Some things you have to discover on your own, telling Gandalf was putting Saroman on notice because of his deep friendship that invites him to join Sauron when he clearly crossed over to the dark side.
@@endymionisrafieldeios7362 Or he’s just been considering that they’ve been mistaken, possibly this whole time under the Watchful Peace. At least under the theatric cut.
Yeah because Saruman is arrogant and can’t accept that sauron returned. Then in the end he thinks he can take on sauron alone and that didn’t go to well 😄. I think Saruman had good intentions but his arrogance led to his downfall.
Think about who are the people there: Two of the Ainur, who existed before the world was sung. The last of the Noldor in Middle Earth and the only one still alive that went willingly in exile, crossing the grinding ice of Helcaraxe. And the offspring of the Ainur and both of the Children of the One, who's father now shines in the sky and who's brother was the first King of Numenor.
@@niksi_96 The undying lands aren't the lands of the Elves, they weren't even originally from there. Elven realms don't have a clear definition, but Galadriel definitely has greater power in this land which is fortified by the power of the Elven Rings.
The wizards are angels who helped God create the Universe. They have to hide their power and take on old man bodies so they can guide people and not overwhelm them. Think Galadriel ×100 and you realize why they had to gramp up.
"He didn't. I did." The deep baritone, the turning of the camera angle, the BGM of Isengard & Uruk hai & the Legend himself, Saruman The White a.k.a Sir Christopher Lee. ❤❤❤
Yep lol. But more like he was the only one actually searching and watching for evidence of evils return. Saruman knew it was real and you can see hints that he’s not the pure wizard he’s supposed to be. Galadriel knew he was hiding his true intentions by speaking to Gandalf through her mind. Saruman was downplaying the whole thing because he himself wanted the ring of power so if he stops them from investigating further he has no one else to contend with but Sauron who isn’t what he is in lotr yet.
@@bulldogsbob They knew that Sauron could never truly be equingiushed but Sarumon was certain the ring was lost at sea never to be recovered and his spirit lingers lost near the misty mountains.
@@Beardshire Saruman didn't think the ring was lost at all, he just said that in order to deceive the others. He was still searching for the ring the entire time hoping to claim it for himself and become the next Dark Lord.
@@willw1991 Gonna need some receipts on that because Sarumon fought against Sauron and took provisions against his return. While he did put plans into place early on into Saurons return before this. his vetoing the white council has always been a guess as to his true intentions. i will agree he did but who is to say Gandalf had made some blunders in the past and Sarumons comments held, so you could say it's just as much Gandalfs fault for crying wolf as much as he did
Gandalf is such a gentleman to lady Galadriel. I didn’t understand what he said to her in elvish but from her smile it’s almost like he was telling her we meet again my lady,… aren’t you as lovely as ever❤
For some reason there’s no subtitles in this video but in the theatrical release of the film Gandalf says to her “Time may have changed me, but not so the lady of Lórien.”
I kind of like the foreshadowing they did here to even if perhaps was unintentional of Galadriel and Elrond both on Gandalf's side of the table while there was Saruman alone on his own side. As if they were foreshadowing events that would soon transpire of Saruman turning from the side of the light like he would.
He was already on his way. Sauron had usurped his mind through the palantir that Saruman had in his possession, using it foolishly as Gandalf mentioned in TFOTR.
This is part of the lore and backstory of the Istari (Wizards) coming to Middle Earth. Curumo (Saruman) was the first, and came willingly. Olórin (Gandalf) came reluctantly. Galadriel had originally pushed for Gandalf to be the leader of the White Council, but Saruman won out. But Saruman was always jealous, given that he was the first and most willing to do the Valar's bidding in Middle Earth. This jealousy is what slowly lead him with the dark path.
4:30 - 5:29 I always got chill with this entire scene and this moment of the sword reveal of the Witch King was awesome. This whole scene was a connection to the Lord of the Rings which is excellent. Thanks for uploading.
When Gandalf hears Saruman's voice, he looks like someone whose boss just came up behind him and he knows he's about to get chewed out over some bullshit. 🤣
I like how they let christopher lee portray saruman as he was before his downfall (though it mightve started already). That little genuine smile he has when he greets gandalf is so good. Seeing the white wizard, the most wisest as a friendly old man just has something else.
Lest it be forgotten but Galadriel (and her hair) were considered so beautiful that The Tolkien world’s greatest Jewelsmith infamously begged her three times for single locks of her hair to immortalize inside one or more of the Silmarils.. He arrogantly approached her and was rebuffed. 😅 Yet swarthy and stocky short king Gimli the Dwarf gets what Feanor couldn’t thru heartfelt respect and genuine admiration (3 locks of Galadriel’s hair to ensnare in a soon to be family heirloom chain necklace, for the Dwarves; The last vestige of the light of the Two Trees which supposedly dwelt in the Elf Lady’s hair) 😂
Of course, WE know that Saruman has his own schemes, but to listen to him presenting an opposing argument instead of saying immediately Dol Goldur should be investigated... It makes you just want to reach out and shake him.
The fact that they should be the ones feeling honored to even stand in front of a mighty Maiar in his lesser form and not a simple grandpa with magic powers.
There was a strange dynamic between Galadriel and Gandalf, they both respected the other more than themselves and valued the other more than themselves.
Can someone expand on Elrond's line, "For 400 years we have had peace"? What is his definition of peace. I can't find a significant moment around 400 years earlier that was a decisive end to conflict.
Also Elrond was well aware of what Isildur did with the Ring after that the Last Alliance of Elves & Men. Perhaps after the Ring escaped Isildur everyone assumed it was lost(unaware of Gollum), and with Sauron yet to return even Elrond became complacent.
@@jmwoods190 Except that Sauron was defeated nearly 3000 years ago, not 400. Dol Guldur would become active some 1000 years after Sauron's defeat, and the Watchful Peace ended some 600 years ago prior to the Hobbit.
@@DanielRed2 Angmar fell a full 966 years before the Quest for Erebor. Immediately afterward, the Lord of the Nazgul would assault Minas Ithil with his fellow wraiths and conquer it, renaming it Minas Morgul.
she is so beautiful, this role wa made for her, I cant see any other actress doing it....i get chills when she smiles as Galadriel, that elf could get me to do anything even with out her magical voice and mind powers, id just obey
The Hobbit films really weaken Gandalf. In the books and original films Gandalf has an authoritative presence at all times and is a lesser divine being. Here he's almost groveling to Galadriel.
@@maxwellsope1080 There's nothing I've ever read that's suggested Gandalf had an affair with Galadriel, although you could be excused for assuming that based off the Hobbit films. If you want closer to real Gandalf, stick with the original LOTR films.
@@farid1406Gandalf's life force was running out after being in an old man's body without a break for 2,000 years. Required his death and an Eru Illuvatar powerup to get his strength back.
Fun fact : this scene was filmed in two different locations... Gandalf scenes were filmed in New Zealand and Saruman scenes were filmed in London because Christopher Lee was too sick to travel to New Zealand.
While complimenting Lady Galadriel Gandalf the Grey is transformed into Gandalf the Silver Tongued Devil! The loving relationship between Sir Ian and Cate is palpable! Yes I know it’s my 376th time viewing this but finally I heard Gandalf saying that courage is found in the unlikeliest of places
@5:40 BOMBASTIC SIDE EYE!!! Cate Blanchett’s facial acting is so amazing here. She goes from a caring and empathic look towards Gandalf, to a frustrated and distrusting one towards Saruman, all within seconds.
The four of them are so perfectly cast and so talented it shows in this scene. I think even if you couldn't speak English, you would understand each perspective from the body language and tone. Elrond's warrior posture, Gandalf's wise humility. Galadriel sees straight to the heart of the matter. And Christopher Lee masterfully turning the audience against Saruman by showing what a conniving, cowardly politician he is.
It's not explained in the film but he is intentionally stalling outsting Sauron from his hiding place because Sauron has his minions searching for the ring around the river. Using where they are searching Saurman could narrow down it's possible location before removing Sauron from the area and claiming The One for himself. At this point he is already corrupted.
Saruman represents the voice of knowledge and power. Galadriel embodies silence, patience and authority. Elrond represents hope (Rivendel is considered the safest place in the Middle Earth), he is the main face of the Elves in the world (along with Galadriel, but his legendary name has much more history). Gandalf is known around all places, with many different names, every elf, dwarf, man and hobbit have heard about this wizard (far more than about Saruman), he brings news, happiness, memories (and fireworks). So, they are: POWER, ELDERLY, HOPE and HAPPINESS
Gandalf's head tilt and eyes when Galadriel says "You knew". With the expressive faces the dialogue is as follows: they're leaving. You knew. Yes, please forgive me my lady. And her next expression says you sly old dog. 😂😂😂😂
Sir Christopher Lee : tell us what the Woodsmen say Delivered in such a powerful manner the line clearly defines the character of Saruman of Many Colors
@@Danrisby He was quite possibly well on the road though. He had his own spies hunting for the ring in and around the Anduin and prying eyes at Dol Guldor might uncover this. His reasons for not investigating the reports of the necromancer were self-serving and not for the good of all.
I wonder if Lady Galadriel could sense one step ahead? Because she could read Gandalf's thoughts in this scene. I'm guessing maybe she could pry into Saruman as well.
@@skycloud4802 Possibly, although this is a liberty taken by the film, albeit one of the more reasonable ones. For me, this scene does get very close to suggesting the rest of them have their suspicions about Saruman which wouldn't fit very well with TLOTR, because if Gandalf really was that doubtful about Saruman, one suspects he wouldn't have gone to meet him, particularly at Isengard which is Saruman's domain. Arguably this scene falls just short of outright suggesting the suspect Saruman of some kind of plot, and I guess you could argue that even if Gandalf did have doubts at the beginning of TLOTR, he would never have suspected the depths to which Saruman had fallen or indeed the severity of the action he would take against Gandalf. The fight scene at the beginning of the third film, whilst being utter baloney in terms of lore, was quite exciting in terms of its staging and does show Saruman in a different light, still actually opposing Sauron at this stage. Perhaps this goes some way to alleviating any doubts Gandalf, Elrond, or Galadriel might have. I didn't like the b/s of having Gandalf captured though.
@@annanduneThat’s pretentious. These movies are incredibly faithful to the book. The only things these movies really add/change are Legolas, (which I like and makes sense, because would have been in Mirkwood during this time and likely at the Battle of the five Armies even if he wasn’t a character yet in the book. Tauriel, which I like because she’s badass, hot and gives emotional stakes to Kili’s death where there was none in the book. Azog, which I really don’t mind because he did kill Thror in the book and is the father of Bolg who WAS in the book. And a few minor other things too that made for a more satisfying film experience. They aren’t perfect, but it’s a fucking great trilogy. They just unfortunately had to live up to the greatest trilogy of all time, which nothing could and possibly ever will.
It should be noted that in the books, by this time The White Council had come to the conclusion that The Necromancer and Sauron were one and the same, but prior to this, both Galadriel and Elrond sided with Gandalf (both that The Necromancer was Sauron and that action was necessary). Saruman however disagreed, at first saying The Necromancer was a human and later a Nazgul, and later stating that action wasn't necessary despite it being Sauron. When the vote came up however, the majority always sided with Saruman, and the other members of the White Council were Radagast and Cirdan, as well as other elf lords such as Glorfindel and Celeborn being other likely members.
This scene is so great, but sadly if you know the BTS footage, the filming wasn't so great for the Actors. Ian McKellen even cryed because he sat in a Room full of Greenscreen and had to imagine them, being there.
Totally agree! That the original trilogy was slighly better doesnt make the hobbit trilogy bad. Both of Peter Jacksons trilogies were masterpieces, because these films were faithful to Tolkiens books. The ring of power sucks.
@@gearben7553 Yes it is overall, but remember it was originally a children's novel, then later retconned and expanded to make it more compatible in tone and continuity with LOTR. Some appendix material and other tales of Middle Earth were woven into the Hobbit movies to fill out narrative elements in the prequel trilogy.
Can we quickly recognize that Sir Christopher Lee was 90 when this film came out. Never retired officially, saw the Second World War. Gone but never forgotten 🫡
@@DementedCaver Another fun fact came out on their behind the scenes. He was too old to fly out to New Zealand at the time for this scene, so apparently, Peter Jackson was able to get a small workspace in London for him, and they shot his entire scene and dialogue on green screen, and then sent it to them, where they weaved it into the scene. Really cool stuff.
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God she was perfect as Galadriel
she’s beautiful
@@danielaqmal4821 Kate Blanchett truly portrayed Galadriel's grace and mystery. With just a hint of a smile, she told us volumes.
Gwen nununununnuuunu Mithrandir Jabbba Jabba Jar Banks guju wuju
yeah beacause she's the only Galadriel
Morfyd is really well cast as her in rings of power. Too bad the shows script is awful
White Council
- Galadriel
- Saruman
- Elrond
- Gandalf
Black Council
- Hela
- Count Dooku
- Agent Smith
- Magneto
That's perfect
Well spotted!
Brilliant 😅
Brilliant 😂
Agent Smith/the red skull
I'm so glad Sir Christopher Lee got to finish his role as Saruman.
Elrond and Saruman are in the main chat only while Gandalf and Galadriel are in the DMs.
good analogy
Lmao true
🤣😂
She does this with Frodo later many times. I love it.
G. Driel slid into G. Dalf's DMs boyyyyyyeeeee!!!!
Gandalf: "Saruman , homie , if the enemy is beaten , why the fuck are you and I still here ?"
My thinking is, if the enemy is beaten, why were they sent in the first place?
Saruman: "To maintain the peace."
Good question.
XD true!
@@mongo7106they were sent before Sauron was defeated
I love the expression on Gandalf's face when he realizes Saruman is there 😂
Indeed
I know right, he closes his eyes and gives an ''oh great this f*cking guy'' expression🙄😕😕 and turns to give an expression of 😃happiness. The facial expression is really good
@@SebastienGendron-uk4poGood but don't make sense. He trusted him at that point.
@@Donfrak It does make complete sense. He trusted him, but he was also fed up with him at that point. It's not always a pleasant thing having someone constantly second guessing your wisdom and experiences.
@@Donfrak "Don't make sense" - What?! 🤣
Galadriel, to her servants 2 minutes earlier: "Spread out the dress evenly! Make it look good! When they come in, I have to turn around slowly and it has to look super-cool!!"
you're awesome :)
Or she just used magic
"and it has to look super-cool!"
@@SethRGray It's actually a lot more in line with canon that the literal laws of physics and nature bent around her to make her appear more beautiful.
@@Yonkage-ik5qb I meant for the cloak thing
The hobbit trilogy had its issues, but adding these scenes with the White Council was brilliant! Plus, it let all of these actors reprise their roles!
The main issue being that they stretched a book of 300 pages into a 9 hour trilogy. For commercial not for artistic reasons. The preferred way of doing that was adding random shit that was not in the original material. So, no, adding this scene was not brilliant. It was adding to the bloated mess that was The Hobbit by introducing popular characters from LOTR who were never mentioned in the book.
Have you considered that this scene is impossible as Witch King never died?
@@omnivorous65agreed. But scenes like this seemed to fit in well
@@JasonGabler scene is nt. the appendices say tht 3 Nazgul occupied Dol Guldur afteR SAURON RETURNED TO mmORDOR- THIS IS WhY gALADRIEL KEEPS HER RING SECRET- IF THE nAZGUL FoNDSHE HD THE RING THEY WOULD ATTACK!
@@omnivorous65 no. At the end of the hobbit book gandalf tells Bilbo why he left just before the dwarfs entered Mirkwood- Saruman had agreed an attack on Dol Guldur because he knew Sauron was stirring and looking for the ring. They didnt know it was Saureon, they only thpught it ws a necromancer. so thois secene was fully justified
I love Elrond’s smile when Gandalf is complimenting Galadriel. It’s small little
moments that build characters.
what compliment? i dont speak elvish
@@gaynzz6841 The subtitles are out of view. But, he said "Age may have changed me. But not so the lady of Lorien." Saying that she's as beautiful as ever.
@@jackolantern147 wow. thanks
@gaynzz6841 Yeah, Gandalf was being cheeky quite frankly (😂). Not only is Galadriel immortal, but her ring of power provides the timelessness power that is present in Lothlorien. So not only is she immortal, but her ring prevents aging as well...
🤣👍
Galadriel is Elronds mother in law
I’m convinced that the glow around Galadriel isn’t FX. I think cate blanchett just naturally turns it on when playing Galadriel, she feels and looks like a being sent from the highest heavens
Even Galadriel had her doubts about Saruman...can see that in her face and how she acts around him here.
It's why she spoke to Gandalf as she did without words. She was keeping her thoughts guarded
She did from the very beginning. In the books, she preferred that Gandalf lead the white council instead of Saruman.
Yes, when Saruman starts interrupting Gandalf again, you can see Galadriel give Saruman a slow, subtle look of harrowing suspicion as she moves only her eyes from Gandalf to Saruman. Excellent physical acting choice and execution by Blanchett and by Jackson directing. That one, slow, burning look captures Tolkien’s emphasis upon Galadriel’s reluctance about Saruman’s lead status in the council that *she* called into being. (I also always wondered a bit about that-why didn’t Galadriel lead the White Council? Then again, according to Tolkien’s unflappable sense of English protocol, it would be improper for the one who summons or convenes a council by his or her authority to lead that same body of members. Great flourishes and details.)
@@kimberlainodriscoll4781 They are both Ring Bearers of the 3, they can do that, Saruman cannot.
When Galadriel says "Let him speak" you know who is in power. Such a magical and etherical scene. Wow!
actually, gandalf and saruman are both the most powerful there. but neither are allowed to use their full power
@@thahoule7924 Yes, by far. It's not even close. I love Jackson's work and Blanchette's portrayal, but even this is a little too much girlboss for Tolkien's character. There would have been a kind of social peerage between these four, but Gandalf would not have been deferential and subservient to Galadriel. And the elves would have known exactly whom they're dealing with.
She's definitely a presence, but Saruman is the boss here. There's a reason Gandalf told the dwarves to go during and not after this meeting.
@@farid1406 I mean the book might portray d/t hiararchy but Galadriel was the one who banished Sauron when even Saruman and Gandalf couldn't in the Hobbits.
@@creamrisesup The books are the ultimate canon, but even in the film, she was using a phial with water with the light of Earendil's star to drive him away, not just her own power. If given a weapon of that magnitude, both Saruman and Gandalf could have driven Sauron off with much less difficulty. Gandalf put up a decent fight with just his natural power, and he wasn't fully upgraded to White yet. TLDR, Galadriel was amped, and is much less powerful and lower in stature than the Istari who are angels that helped God create the Universe.
0:27 Elrond in the background looking at Gandalf like "you silver-tongued old flatterer".
😂 and It's his mother in law
😂😂😂
Gandalf's look at Elrond before turning to greet Saruman: "Oh, dear, it's the boss." (sigh)
LOL!!!! I though Gandalf's look said: Oh No!! Not this motherfvcker!! 🤣
Saruman spent literal centuries delaying and dragging the feet of the White Council, precisely because he had already made up his mind to turn to darkness. He put them off the scent of Sauron because, at minimum, he was going to ally with Sauron and be a powerful captain when Sauron ruled Middle-Earth. But his real preference was to be the Dark Lord himself, which is why he lulled everyone into thinking that the Ring had long ago rolled down the Anduin to the sea. In reality, Saruman had long had servants dredging the Anduin for the Ring, and may even have chosen to settle in Isengard because of its proximity to the River, where he always suspected the Ring to be.
I believe Galadriel knows Saruman plans, she left him speak to understand and know what was important for the dark lord.
I even feel that she is making fun of Saroman in a subtle way.
Galadriel used telepathy to communicate with Gandalf and reveals her true intention’s.
Elron also knew that Saruman is a traitor.
Gandalf was the only one who didn't know the truth.
Isengard is by the River _Isen,_ not the Anduin which is about a hundred miles to the East.
@@luisureta8604 if true why would they not tell gandalf
As Sauron served Morgoth so Saruman would serve Sauron. Each evil grows more petty and derivative, from Morgoth's ring to Sauron's derivative, and so the ring Saruman wore was the Many Coloured. Tolkien brilliantly sets creation as an entropy that can only be escaped by the destruction of Ea, and so the unknitting of Morgoth's evil from Being...
@@deut Some things you have to discover on your own, telling Gandalf was putting Saroman on notice because of his deep friendship that invites him to join Sauron when he clearly crossed over to the dark side.
Saruman has no patience for shrooms and weed 😂 he speaks ill of Radagast for his love for mushrooms and disapproves of Gandalf's love of pipeweed.
Yet he had a stash of the pipe weed himself in orthanc that mary and pippin found.
And yet when the Ents take the Hobbits to Isengard, they find Old Toby pipeweed and, I would imagine, a few mushrooms.
Saruman, the Hypocrite
Yet he emulates Gandalf and secretly consumes the Hobbit's leaf in shame.
@@Tahkaullus01😮😮😮😮 3:51 😢😮
he even roasts Gandalf from smoking hobbit weed
You can tell Gandalf is frustrated with Saruman 😂
His reaction is like an employee being on their phone at work, and they realize their manager is standing behind them.
Annoyed, more like.
@@endymionisrafieldeios7362 Or he’s just been considering that they’ve been mistaken, possibly this whole time under the Watchful Peace. At least under the theatric cut.
Yeah because Saruman is arrogant and can’t accept that sauron returned. Then in the end he thinks he can take on sauron alone and that didn’t go to well 😄. I think Saruman had good intentions but his arrogance led to his downfall.
@@daniels7717 which also lead him to make his own ring of power
'Well? Tell us what what the woodsmen say?' A patrionising line spoken with contempt. Brilliant acting.
Don't forget the signature look of superiority.
Magneto,Count Dooku,Agent Smith and Hela in another universe.
Not to forget Queen Elizabeth I
Different characters. You must be confused.
And one of the Flight of the Conchords!
Hugo Weaving also played Douglas Jardine.
And the Red Skull.@@christopherralph3396
Think about who are the people there:
Two of the Ainur, who existed before the world was sung.
The last of the Noldor in Middle Earth and the only one still alive that went willingly in exile, crossing the grinding ice of Helcaraxe.
And the offspring of the Ainur and both of the Children of the One, who's father now shines in the sky and who's brother was the first King of Numenor.
Glorfindel is alive at this point and also crossed the Helcaraxe.
Ha, gayyy…
wizards are maiar, not ainur, they serve the ainur, they have less power God bless ya'll
@@aperson2368Maiar are Ainur too tbh.
@@aperson2368 you are confusing the Valar with the ainur. Both Valar and Maia are ainur.
Galadriel's smirk translated to: You Cheeky Bastard 😂
And Gandalfs busted puppydog face
Galadriel seems more magic than the actual wizards in this scene.
This is an elven realm - her powers are elevated - and she hasn't had to discard so much of her strength evicting 'the Necromancer' yet
@@2Scribble its not, elven land is called undying lands
@@niksi_96 The undying lands aren't the lands of the Elves, they weren't even originally from there. Elven realms don't have a clear definition, but Galadriel definitely has greater power in this land which is fortified by the power of the Elven Rings.
The Undying Lands are in the West,within sight of Valinor. @@niksi_96
The wizards are angels who helped God create the Universe. They have to hide their power and take on old man bodies so they can guide people and not overwhelm them. Think Galadriel ×100 and you realize why they had to gramp up.
"He didn't. I did." The deep baritone, the turning of the camera angle, the BGM of Isengard & Uruk hai & the Legend himself, Saruman The White a.k.a Sir Christopher Lee. ❤❤❤
0:01 my food in the microwave.
Нанана
lol truly epic when i imagine the food in microwave spin for me
Yes, and with that soundtrack when its my favorite Mexican food.
10/10 Comment, gave me a solid belly laugh.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I laughed way to hard at this. Outstanding comment.
I love how saurman disses radagast but Gandalf doesn't doubt him
Gandalf was the conspiracy guy they all rolled their eyes at lol
Yep lol. But more like he was the only one actually searching and watching for evidence of evils return. Saruman knew it was real and you can see hints that he’s not the pure wizard he’s supposed to be. Galadriel knew he was hiding his true intentions by speaking to Gandalf through her mind. Saruman was downplaying the whole thing because he himself wanted the ring of power so if he stops them from investigating further he has no one else to contend with but Sauron who isn’t what he is in lotr yet.
Not quite. Gandalf and Saruman’s presence means that Sauron hasn’t been defeated for good.
@@bulldogsbob They knew that Sauron could never truly be equingiushed but Sarumon was certain the ring was lost at sea never to be recovered and his spirit lingers lost near the misty mountains.
@@Beardshire Saruman didn't think the ring was lost at all, he just said that in order to deceive the others. He was still searching for the ring the entire time hoping to claim it for himself and become the next Dark Lord.
@@willw1991 Gonna need some receipts on that because Sarumon fought against Sauron and took provisions against his return. While he did put plans into place early on into Saurons return before this. his vetoing the white council has always been a guess as to his true intentions. i will agree he did but who is to say Gandalf had made some blunders in the past and Sarumons comments held, so you could say it's just as much Gandalfs fault for crying wolf as much as he did
The impact of Christopher Lee's voice is unparalleled
I simply pity poor old Elrond. His mother in law never dies AND she can hear your thoughts. I'd also spend 3000 years at war in Mordor if I was him.
lol
Yea, but she doesn't live with him. So no problems there.
She can't unless he wants, that power all the bearers have
@sonofcy wheew!
When Ian McKellen joins Christopher Lee in the afterlife, we can take comfort that both will be keeping watch on Sauron's spirit...
Gandalf is such a gentleman to lady Galadriel. I didn’t understand what he said to her in elvish but from her smile it’s almost like he was telling her we meet again my lady,… aren’t you as lovely as ever❤
For some reason there’s no subtitles in this video but in the theatrical release of the film Gandalf says to her “Time may have changed me, but not so the lady of Lórien.”
@@scottspangler6363 yeah sounds right to me.
"Let him speak"
Even Saruman obeyed that
This is one of the few added scenes that I liked- it adds a bit of connection
Saruman: “What proof do we have that this weapon came from Angmar’s grave?”
Gandalf: “Galadriel just told us it did. Are you deaf?”
What country you from??
What?
What ain't no country I ever heard of! Do they speak English in What??
Huh?
ENGLISH MOFO DO YOU SPEAK IT!?
@@NoOne-kr4jc .....what?
@ThaFuzzwood Say it again! Say what again! I dare you! I double dare you mofo! Say what one more goddamn time!!!
@@NoOne-kr4jc Yeeeeesssss, fistbump for the old classics!
One thing the hobbit nailed was showing Gandalf was playing a much bigger game for decades
Yeah, he's amazing in these movies.
The music to Galadriel's entrance 🔥🔥
It's heavenly my lady!
I kind of like the foreshadowing they did here to even if perhaps was unintentional of Galadriel and Elrond both on Gandalf's side of the table while there was Saruman alone on his own side. As if they were foreshadowing events that would soon transpire of Saruman turning from the side of the light like he would.
He was already on his way. Sauron had usurped his mind through the palantir that Saruman had in his possession, using it foolishly as Gandalf mentioned in TFOTR.
Possibly, but Christopher Lee shot his part in England while the other three were in New Zealand
He already had. He was searching for the ring in secret, and it's said he more saw Sauron as a rival than an enemy at this point.
This is part of the lore and backstory of the Istari (Wizards) coming to Middle Earth. Curumo (Saruman) was the first, and came willingly. Olórin (Gandalf) came reluctantly.
Galadriel had originally pushed for Gandalf to be the leader of the White Council, but Saruman won out. But Saruman was always jealous, given that he was the first and most willing to do the Valar's bidding in Middle Earth.
This jealousy is what slowly lead him with the dark path.
4:30 - 5:29 I always got chill with this entire scene and this moment of the sword reveal of the Witch King was awesome. This whole scene was a connection to the Lord of the Rings which is excellent. Thanks for uploading.
Thank you very much ❤
When Gandalf hears Saruman's voice, he looks like someone whose boss just came up behind him and he knows he's about to get chewed out over some bullshit. 🤣
I like Galadriel’s side eye/unconvinced look towards Saruman at 5:42. 😂
Saruman you had one job, ONE JOB!
And you betrayed us!! 😂😂
I like how they let christopher lee portray saruman as he was before his downfall (though it mightve started already). That little genuine smile he has when he greets gandalf is so good. Seeing the white wizard, the most wisest as a friendly old man just has something else.
Now THAT’s proper casting for Galadriel.
All the elves in rings of power looks awful 😂
Lets examine what we KNOW
proceeds to repeat an assumption
IKR? I was thinking "we KNOW that the Necromancer is just a human sorcerer?"
0:56 Sir Ian McKellen was napping when this scenes started.
Ian McKellen has the uncanny ability to be able to nap anywhere at any time. I am so jealous.
A wizard can nap precisely when he means to
They actually used the scene where he was napping? I thought maybe they reshot it.
That’s so funny, and a bit strange.
A Wizard is never tired, Nor is he awake he naps Precisley when he means to
What to do? When your boss is this ignorant.. 😅
The three elven rings under the same roof!
Only Saruman doesn't have one, that's why the bitch sabotage the whole thing
Saruman " it's not that it's his(Radagast) excessive consumption of mushrooms" 😂😂😂
I like the look on Elrond’s face when Gandalf is complementing Galadriel in elvish. Like “ you old smoothy “
The whole Tolkien universe is like a drug to me, just can't get enough.
Galadriel: You knewww....
Gandalf: :3
Lest it be forgotten but Galadriel (and her hair) were considered so beautiful that The Tolkien world’s greatest Jewelsmith infamously begged her three times for single locks of her hair to immortalize inside one or more of the Silmarils.. He arrogantly approached her and was rebuffed. 😅
Yet swarthy and stocky short king Gimli the Dwarf gets what Feanor couldn’t thru heartfelt respect and genuine admiration (3 locks of Galadriel’s hair to ensnare in a soon to be family heirloom chain necklace, for the Dwarves; The last vestige of the light of the Two Trees which supposedly dwelt in the Elf Lady’s hair) 😂
Of course, WE know that Saruman has his own schemes, but to listen to him presenting an opposing argument instead of saying immediately Dol Goldur should be investigated... It makes you just want to reach out and shake him.
Saruman: He didn’t, I did.
Gandalf: 😖 , turns around, 😀 hey man, how’s it goin? Good to see you, you look well.
The fact that they should be the ones feeling honored to even stand in front of a mighty Maiar in his lesser form and not a simple grandpa with magic powers.
Gandalf and Saruman are both Maiar. Galadriel is no joke and a powerhouse in her own right. It's Elrond that is in mightier company.
@@Thalasaurelrond is the grandson of a maiar.
@@MiningForPies And yet nowhere close in power to the other 3.
@@Thalasaur Tolkien describe him as mighty amongst both elves and men. He had a claim (never actual claimed) to the high kingship.
@@MiningForPies I'm not dismissing Elrond. He is impressive. It's says more about Gandalf, Saruman and Galadriel than it does about Elrond.
in Saruman next life, he 'll be running a nuclear plant in Chernobyl....
Notice At 0:43 the little music( Isengard theme) hints Saurman’s betrayal is going to happen very soon.
It’s hard to believe that Christopher Lee was like 89 or 90 when this movie came out.
There was a strange dynamic between Galadriel and Gandalf, they both respected the other more than themselves and valued the other more than themselves.
By the Inore, she's beautiful
Saruman: the war is over. We won.
Then why are you still in Middle Earth?
In fact the Wizards were not in Middle Earth when Sauron was defeated in the Second Age. They came later.
Can someone expand on Elrond's line, "For 400 years we have had peace"? What is his definition of peace. I can't find a significant moment around 400 years earlier that was a decisive end to conflict.
Also Elrond was well aware of what Isildur did with the Ring after that the Last Alliance of Elves & Men. Perhaps after the Ring escaped Isildur everyone assumed it was lost(unaware of Gollum), and with Sauron yet to return even Elrond became complacent.
@@jmwoods190 Except that Sauron was defeated nearly 3000 years ago, not 400. Dol Guldur would become active some 1000 years after Sauron's defeat, and the Watchful Peace ended some 600 years ago prior to the Hobbit.
@@LordMortanius Is 400 years before when Angmar fell?
@@DanielRed2 Angmar fell a full 966 years before the Quest for Erebor. Immediately afterward, the Lord of the Nazgul would assault Minas Ithil with his fellow wraiths and conquer it, renaming it Minas Morgul.
@@LordMortanius Ok it was just a guess! Who knows why he says 400 years then??
3:48 when Gandalf mentions Radagast the look On Saruman faces 😂😂😂😂
The disdain between these wizards was a bit too real 😂😂
When you realize galadriel is older than the moon😮
And Gandalf is older than the Universe 😮
she is so beautiful, this role wa made for her, I cant see any other actress doing it....i get chills when she smiles as Galadriel, that elf could get me to do anything even with out her magical voice and mind powers, id just obey
Gandalf was patient and respectful to the elves. They are old but he literally participated in the song of creation. He’s a gentleman about it.
The Hobbit films really weaken Gandalf. In the books and original films Gandalf has an authoritative presence at all times and is a lesser divine being. Here he's almost groveling to Galadriel.
@@farid1406 Doesn't he love galadriel?. I thought he and galadriel had an affair.
@@maxwellsope1080 There's nothing I've ever read that's suggested Gandalf had an affair with Galadriel, although you could be excused for assuming that based off the Hobbit films. If you want closer to real Gandalf, stick with the original LOTR films.
@@farid1406Gandalf's life force was running out after being in an old man's body without a break for 2,000 years. Required his death and an Eru Illuvatar powerup to get his strength back.
Fun fact : this scene was filmed in two different locations... Gandalf scenes were filmed in New Zealand and Saruman scenes were filmed in London because Christopher Lee was too sick to travel to New Zealand.
This is better than the first two seasons of Rings of Power.
Absolute perfect casting all four of them. I love Gandalf's innocent-guilty face at the end
Great actors and actress. They make all the difference.
While complimenting Lady Galadriel Gandalf the Grey is transformed into Gandalf the Silver Tongued Devil!
The loving relationship between Sir Ian and Cate is palpable!
Yes I know it’s my 376th time viewing this but finally I heard Gandalf saying that courage is found in the unlikeliest of places
Saruman is that Hammer Films Dracula that warned us about witchcraft
Masterful acting in this scene alone makes hobbit worth watching.
Do not speak to me of Radaghast
He is, yes odd, but birds speak highly of him
oddly the creation of orc is way more disgusting
@5:40 BOMBASTIC SIDE EYE!!! Cate Blanchett’s facial acting is so amazing here. She goes from a caring and empathic look towards Gandalf, to a frustrated and distrusting one towards Saruman, all within seconds.
When Angmar fell The Witch King left for Minas Morgul
He never fell nor was he buried
The four of them are so perfectly cast and so talented it shows in this scene. I think even if you couldn't speak English, you would understand each perspective from the body language and tone. Elrond's warrior posture, Gandalf's wise humility. Galadriel sees straight to the heart of the matter. And Christopher Lee masterfully turning the audience against Saruman by showing what a conniving, cowardly politician he is.
More than a hobbit, braver than a man, stronger than a fallen, powerful, not so cunning elf.
"It´s not that. it´s his excessive comsumption of mushrooms. " It´s such a funny line in the gran scemes of these movies.
Poor Saruman is seriously underestimating these dark signs and Sauron himself. That's his folly which will lead to his corruption.
More probably hidding them because he is looking for the ring himself.
Saruman reminds me of the MSM trying to deny election fraud, or anything the Dems do that is a crime.
It's not explained in the film but he is intentionally stalling outsting Sauron from his hiding place because Sauron has his minions searching for the ring around the river. Using where they are searching Saurman could narrow down it's possible location before removing Sauron from the area and claiming The One for himself.
At this point he is already corrupted.
@@DaciValtyour mom was already corrupted
Saruman represents the voice of knowledge and power. Galadriel embodies silence, patience and authority. Elrond represents hope (Rivendel is considered the safest place in the Middle Earth), he is the main face of the Elves in the world (along with Galadriel, but his legendary name has much more history). Gandalf is known around all places, with many different names, every elf, dwarf, man and hobbit have heard about this wizard (far more than about Saruman), he brings news, happiness, memories (and fireworks). So, they are: POWER, ELDERLY, HOPE and HAPPINESS
Even the Hobbit trilogy shines brightly after each passing year ❤❤❤.
I agree. It's much better than I remember!
The Extended version Is Epic
Gandalf's head tilt and eyes when Galadriel says "You knew".
With the expressive faces the dialogue is as follows:
they're leaving. You knew. Yes, please forgive me my lady. And her next expression says you sly old dog.
😂😂😂😂
Ah, the one and only Galadriel
Sir Christopher Lee : tell us what the Woodsmen say
Delivered in such a powerful manner the line clearly defines the character of Saruman of Many Colors
I love this shit.
Necromancer? The return of Sauron? Sounds like a conspiracy theory!
Saurmon was already corrupted by this point. His refusal is noted
No he wasn’t. His personality was always like this and always had an underlying jealousy of Gandalf
@@Danrisby He was quite possibly well on the road though. He had his own spies hunting for the ring in and around the Anduin and prying eyes at Dol Guldor might uncover this. His reasons for not investigating the reports of the necromancer were self-serving and not for the good of all.
I wonder if Lady Galadriel could sense one step ahead? Because she could read Gandalf's thoughts in this scene. I'm guessing maybe she could pry into Saruman as well.
@@skycloud4802 Possibly, although this is a liberty taken by the film, albeit one of the more reasonable ones.
For me, this scene does get very close to suggesting the rest of them have their suspicions about Saruman which wouldn't fit very well with TLOTR, because if Gandalf really was that doubtful about Saruman, one suspects he wouldn't have gone to meet him, particularly at Isengard which is Saruman's domain.
Arguably this scene falls just short of outright suggesting the suspect Saruman of some kind of plot, and I guess you could argue that even if Gandalf did have doubts at the beginning of TLOTR, he would never have suspected the depths to which Saruman had fallen or indeed the severity of the action he would take against Gandalf.
The fight scene at the beginning of the third film, whilst being utter baloney in terms of lore, was quite exciting in terms of its staging and does show Saruman in a different light, still actually opposing Sauron at this stage. Perhaps this goes some way to alleviating any doubts Gandalf, Elrond, or Galadriel might have. I didn't like the b/s of having Gandalf captured though.
@@annanduneThat’s pretentious. These movies are incredibly faithful to the book. The only things these movies really add/change are Legolas, (which I like and makes sense, because would have been in Mirkwood during this time and likely at the Battle of the five Armies even if he wasn’t a character yet in the book. Tauriel, which I like because she’s badass, hot and gives emotional stakes to Kili’s death where there was none in the book. Azog, which I really don’t mind because he did kill Thror in the book and is the father of Bolg who WAS in the book. And a few minor other things too that made for a more satisfying film experience. They aren’t perfect, but it’s a fucking great trilogy. They just unfortunately had to live up to the greatest trilogy of all time, which nothing could and possibly ever will.
See I really don't mind the new Galadriel in RoP, but man this was THE PERFECT Galadriel and will always be in my heart.. ehm I mean mind
6:41
"Frodo~ don't wear the ring~ !" 🎵
The way Galadriel circles the room gracefully is so Gangsta!!!
It should be noted that in the books, by this time The White Council had come to the conclusion that The Necromancer and Sauron were one and the same, but prior to this, both Galadriel and Elrond sided with Gandalf (both that The Necromancer was Sauron and that action was necessary). Saruman however disagreed, at first saying The Necromancer was a human and later a Nazgul, and later stating that action wasn't necessary despite it being Sauron.
When the vote came up however, the majority always sided with Saruman, and the other members of the White Council were Radagast and Cirdan, as well as other elf lords such as Glorfindel and Celeborn being other likely members.
I am so thankful Christopher Lee was able to return to the role.
This scene is so great, but sadly if you know the BTS footage, the filming wasn't so great for the Actors. Ian McKellen even cryed because he sat in a Room full of Greenscreen and had to imagine them, being there.
its s amazing how technology works- Lee was in EnglaNd, Blanchet in SYDNEY AND mCKELLEN IN nz- TRULY THE RINGS OF pOWER!
I've never seen an Elf like Galadriel played by Cate Blanchett. A masterpiece....
Lady Galadriel has an open mind and contrite spirit
I love how ominous that line is:
"Made for the Witch-King of Angmar, and... _buried_ with him..."
The hobbit wasn't that bad its way better thean the rings of power
Totally agree! That the original trilogy was slighly better doesnt make the hobbit trilogy bad. Both of Peter Jacksons trilogies were masterpieces, because these films were faithful to Tolkiens books. The ring of power sucks.
Lmao The Hobbit is faithful to the source material?
@@gearben7553 Yes it is overall, but remember it was originally a children's novel, then later retconned and expanded to make it more compatible in tone and continuity with LOTR. Some appendix material and other tales of Middle Earth were woven into the Hobbit movies to fill out narrative elements in the prequel trilogy.
Compare to The Rings of Power? Oh yeah...
I don’t even consider ROP in relation to the Jackson trilogies.
It just doesn’t exist.
Can we quickly recognize that Sir Christopher Lee was 90 when this film came out. Never retired officially, saw the Second World War. Gone but never forgotten 🫡
He surely soldiered on until the very end.
@@DementedCaver Another fun fact came out on their behind the scenes. He was too old to fly out to New Zealand at the time for this scene, so apparently, Peter Jackson was able to get a small workspace in London for him, and they shot his entire scene and dialogue on green screen, and then sent it to them, where they weaved it into the scene. Really cool stuff.
FYI: at this point Saruman is already trying to find the ring for himself. This is why he is being so obstructionist.
Magic mushrooms 🍄 😂