Game Porting Toolkit 2 changes EVERYTHING! AVX2, Ray Tracing, Mac gaming WWDC 2024
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Quick video about Mac gaming at WWDC 2024, Ray Tracing and AVX2 support that's now ready to try out today!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Mac gaming announcements WWDC 2024
01:19 macOS Sequoia
02:02 NEW Mac games!
03:01 Game Porting Toolkit 2.0
03:54 Windows Ray Tracing
06:17 AVX2 support
07:39 Conclusion
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Apple also included the Metal Framework with C++ rather than just Objective C, meaning it will be even easier for developers to port their games as many games are developed in C++
Isn't C++ the default for unreal engine?
@@mitchell10394 C++ is the default for a lot of high-performance code, so not supporting it would be a massive barrier to porting to M chips.
I looked at that. They're just wrapping Obj-C codes with objc_msgsend and related functions.
@@mitchell10394
well yeah, but not in Xcode or whatever developers use to port games to Mac using GPTK 2.0
Quite nice they're referencing Crossover, Whisky, Homebrew in the official GPTK2 page.
I really hope devs take advantage of this, but I dont want releases to be only on the App Store like RE4 and 8 were. They NEED to be on steam if they want to find an audience, especially because if more mac ports come out people will want to carry over the steam libraries they've already built up with games that they've already purchased. I dream of the day of being able to play on my macbook pro on the go and on my desktop PC at home interchangeably
The best solution is to offer the games BOTH on Steam AND the App Store, so you get the choice between buying for PC/Mac (and maybe eventually iOS and iPadOS, once sideloading is required by law in the US and the rest of the world) or buying for all of your Apple devices (and for the rest of your family if you have Family Sharing and Shared Purchases enabled).
If I only intended on buying games for myself, I would pick Steam, since I would be primarily play on PC and Mac.
However, there's quite a bit of friction to share your games with your family, never mind them only being able to play it on PC, so for that reason I would also advise buying it on the App Store, so that you can easily allow other family members to play the game you bought with relative ease, since 9 times out of 10 they have an Apple ID over a Steam account.
yeah that won't happen
@@huiAPPOAJWhy? Many new ports have both Mac App Store and Steam version. Such as SnowRunner, No Man's Sky, Stray and more
Today was quite interesting, and probably the most acknowledgments gamers ever got from Apple. That "Game Mode" for iPhone is a pretty major change and one that hopefully will FINALLY make iPhones stop dimming when playing games over long periods.
I think this happens when the battery gets too hot
I think iPhone 16 will add a dlss time thing making it better
@@Hybrid225iphone has metallic fx dlss
How…? iPhones dim because they get too hot, and sure, it does get indeed hotter the more background think it does but it doesn’t overheat when chatting. It’s the game that’s too heavy
Screen dimming is a method of thermal throttling. There are many methods to keep temperatures down, mainly slower processing, but Apple also does screen dimming very early for some reason.
For mobile devices, the main reason for throttling is for conforming to international standards. You do not want to burn your hands. Surface temperatures of the device must be under a certain temperature (usually 50C).
Since game mode maximizes performance on Macs, I do not see how it would fix the issue on iPhones since there is more performance.
Haven’t been able to get AW2 or Ghost of Tsushima working, but Hellblade 2 is up and running on my M3 Max, via Sequoia, with the latest version of Crossover and the GPTK 2.0 beta. All graphics settings maxed out, FSR 3 balanced, with max resolution, FPS like 35 - 45, depending. Can certainly do better dropping things a bit. Considering this game is very heavy to run, it still outperforms the Series X. Not too shabby for day 1 of a beta release.
you seriously boguht an m3max just to look fancy and be able to game???! What a wasted laptop on a moron gamer.
Hope rockstar games takes a note
I realllyyyy hope theyll optimize to mac. Hell if gameporting toolkit 2 can run gta imma be playing gta iv everyday. That game is the only reason I want a PC
@@MikeeWatts GTA IV has been playable already for quite some time
@@MikeeWatts I completed GTA V on M1 Max 32GB via Crossover almost two years ago. Performance was very satisfying. Surely you can also play GTA IV
@@MikeeWatts I used to play a lot of GTA V Online with a friend during the holidays on my M1 Max as well. Ran much more smoothly than I had anticipated, even at high settings and resolution. You could barely even hear the fans spin. Having a lot of hope for GPTK2 considering it already ran so well with GPTK1 and Whisky.
Loved your livestream! Best source of info for Mac gaming by far
Can't wait for more advancements in the emulation scene!
this is great news! thx for the breakdown :)
I have a question, in one preview video you said the native games sold in the app store they install automatic on the main SSD of the Mac, and is not way how to install direct on external device, they all ready changed that? or is still same.
Can't wait for your instruction video, because I haven't been able to get it to work. Do you need the Sequoia beta for it to work? Detroit Become Human still just tells me the graphics card isn't supported, and it won't boot.
This is genuinely a pretty good list, and hopefully more of a showing of what’s to come. 2:25
Can't wait wuthering wave coming to macos
Second! Using Mumu right now. But native, with proper 4k graphics will be much better?
is mumu better than playcover? i just never tried mumu and never really heard someone saying if the difference is huge enough to switch@@RefeelYoga
we need genshin and tower of fantasy too 😂🤣
Having a blast with Valheim ngl. Looking forward to Palworld on Mac!
Will we finally be able to download netflix shows and watch them offline on our macbooks with the way the new screen mirroring works?
sf6 works with crossover on sonoma!
I’m definitely excited for Mac gaming going forward but I’m just saddened that Apple is playing catch up with windows but I do hope we get on par with windows soon
It will take time
Is there going to be a video on how to set it up for the new version?
thank you. i am more interested in the progress of Apple's work towards running Windows native on Apple Silicon. This is some very important and complex progress.
I really hope we see Forbidden West running on Mac. I really can't wait to try out GPTK2 with Crossover
I can finally play Palworld! And also Valheim is huge too
Palworld was one of the games that was announced to have native support sooner or later in the keynote yesterday.
riven remake is a nice full circle. best in the series. a series that came out of hypercard and apple game development in the short span of time that was a thing.
RT is often optional, thankfully, but it is one of the most forward looking feature to have in GPU and it’s essential for Apple to have developers work with RT support on Apple hardware, and know how to get the most out of it. Us enthusiast using it as a translation layer just want the most frames possible. Really curious what the gap will be with Control when running through GPTK and native, when it releases.
Ray tracing does not give more frames.
That's not how it works with games.
I’d be super hyped to play Detroit (although it’s a Vulkan game and not directx)
Is AVX2 support via GPTK2 on every M series chips or just the M3? (I have a M2 Pro)
afaik on every Mx but Ray Tracing is limited to M3 and beyond. Yesterday, history for macos gaming was written and its phenomenal!
@@AnarUto50 gptk 2 will bring cool stuff to m1 users too? :(
@@eatcakeomg Probably only minor changes and improvements.
I loved how many gaming they talked about 😂
Would Enshrouded work does anyone know? Or is this still a Vulkan issue.
I hope apple keeps this up
Great video personaly switching between windows and mac for various tasks, mac for graphics and productivity and windows just for pure gaming not really sure why you would play games on a mac not sure how I feel about it but hey if thats a thing for people then why not I digress. Thats just my opinion :)
Will you please make a video about installing and using GPTK2? I've downloaded it but can't figure out how to work with it.
Yep it's about to be released :).
Starfield on a Mac Studio ?
I’m playing Valheim natively now :) after months of playing it on Crossover
How does the performance compare?
Very exiting
I own a xover lifetime licence, does this mean I should expect this to also get support for AVX2, RT and all the enhancements on both Mac & Linux ? 🤩
48gb M3 max to run a 1080p game at 20fps (from the intro footage). That's expensive.
That game is not even ported to mac??
M series computer are a joke f😊r gaming. I only I’ll move when they make a true tower Mac Pro
It wouldn't surprise me if AVX2 support is actually part of Rosetta 2. And AVX2 translation will be better on the M4s (when they come to Macs).
Also please try Persona 3 Reload with Ray-Tracing please
I hope GPTK will coming to Ipados 😢
Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis didn't work because of lack of AVX2. A launcher like YAAGL would be awesome :)
Finally, ray tracing
Can this be used for IOS emulation?
Will apple start to develop handheld gaming for next? if they are really serious.
03:30 Windows Games to Apple Devices*
i cant access the 2.0 gpt
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Gonna try out some Yakuza games to see if they work.
So can i port games to iphone now ? 😅
Какие новые технологии включены в Game Porting Toolkit 2, о которых говорится в дополнительном тексте?
TRY PERSONA 5 ROYAL PLEASE. WE CAN FINALLY SEE IF IT CAN RUN UNDER GPTK 2
hey, you can play p5r with ryujinx! i played it this way and it ran beautifully.
@@ismailefetop but i want PC graphics though
try persona 3 reload
I think i heard someone got it running easily and I ran well.(if i'm not mistaken) check further
@@zabaxa1008 on what mac?
With AVX support, will Age of Empires 4 become playable with GPTK 2.0 now?
Not sure but I’d b keen to know too
Imma need you to test TOMB RAIDER REMASTERED on Toolkit 2 if they're not gonna port it to the Mac. :D
I’m really worried about their AI integration. When they said on device with my personal data I was okay with it, but then they said personal cloud compute and going on their servers and oh it’s so secure… no. If I can’t turn it off, I’m staying on the current release of macOS.
I think cloud compute is going to be used for older devices which don't have a neural chip just like it's done now when you dictate to your intel mac it processes it on apple servers so internet connection is required while m1 macs and newer ones use their chip for that so everything is done locally.
Will crossover implement AVX2? Unless it already has it then ignore my question.
Yes its already supported because the new Game Porting Toolkit 2 works with Crossover.
I think so, but I should note that the operation of AVX2 is a function of Rosetta 2, not GPTK.
This is nice and all but will support come on steam? No one will bother using the AppStore to play these games
Will RDR2 or Jedi Survivor possibly work now with AVX2??
Jedi Survivor was already marked as compatible with Crossover prior to today's release.
can you play dayz online on mac?
wanna play dayz but dont like windows
Apple took the lead with AI on M4 and now the Microsoft OS armada produce their own AI answer at COMPUTEX. Loving the competition.
Does this means doom and rdr2 can finally be played on a mac?
need someone to try it out but yes, theoretically it should work now
Right, I am wondering it too since directx12 support is implemented..?
Yes possibly, it’s worth testing now!
@@Andytizer Im updating to MacOS 15 right now to test doom haha. I'll let you know :D
@@amigoSeiyayeah I tried without the newest macOS and that doesn’t work. All these games would need the newest beta
Какие новые возможности предлагает Game Porting Toolkit 2 для Бастиона Моби? Где можно узнать больше о функциях и обновлениях Бастиона Моби?
Какие инновационные технологии используются в Бастионе Моби, о которых говорят в Game Porting Toolkit 2? Где можно найти дополнительную информацию о функциях и приложениях, доступных на Бастионе Моби?
Бастион Моби использует инновационные технологии для обеспечения безопасности, включая социальные сети с открытым исходным кодом и хранение ключей шифрования на устройстве пользователя. Дополнительную информацию о функциях и приложениях на Бастионе Моби можно найти через бесплатный чат с поддержкой.
gptk2 can run rainbow six now？
Try fc24
So Crysis 3 Remastered could finally works? I mean in Sequoia. I’ve tried it in Sonoma but it is not working. :(
Yes Crysis 3 Remastered is confirmed to be working!
My slight disappointment with your vid is isn’t mentioning that Whisky got mentioned in the Platform SotU
so when can i play cod mw loo
Alright, now it would be a very good time to have Epic Games running in Crossover 🤪
I've been collecting all the free games every week for the last couple of years at least, and now many will be playable, if only Epic Game Store can launch 🤩
You can do this using Heroic right now :)
@@Andytizer I didn't even know that was a thing 😳
I guess I'll try installing the windows version through Crossover.
Thank you 🙏✨
7:10 can you try Forza Horizon 5 please !
Hopefully Valorant supported on MacBook Air m1 2020
Lmao
I am really weirded out. I am not used to Mac actually having games, a lot of games no less. If we can’t meme on Mac gaming anymore, what are we going to do now?
yep. you've highlighted the issue with ray tracing, it degrades the performance considerably while only providing meager improvements. It should stay in the off position
Slowly but surely, Apple gaming gets better!
Pcxs2 on iOS, when??
dolphin emulator is better 😊
@@sam95bjk3 either or im fine with, I just want one of those 2 lol
star citizen ??
Seriously this. Would love to know if Star Citizen works. But to be honest, it feels like Apple's hardware is just waaaaaaay too weak for that type of game.. :/ They need to seriously bump their GPU in their chips if they want to be able to game seriously since they are so far behind AMD and Nvidia..
Any news on easy anti cheat? Can it work now?
Thats something crossover would need to work with epic with
@@DarthAnonymous2 not really, epic already has an implementation of eac for wine which is how steam proton works
games just have to enable it (as far as i know)
@@n0ok i dont think it works with macos wine though . Linux has the proton path . But i dont think mac does
@@n0ok once it is implemented though, yes devs have to enable it
@@DarthAnonymous2 isn't linux wine and macos wine the same?
We need something similar to DLSS before saying mac can game.
This is awesome, but gaming on Mac is being held back by the App store.
Can someone try Assassin's Creed Odyssey? It is a AVX game.
I hope call of duty also comes one day.
Aoe4??
Could we become more vocal against Ubisoft choice of releasing Mirage only on mobile? Such a dumb choice.
AOE4 AOE4 AOE4 !!!
Ray Tracing killing the FPS.
If you want play with raytracing, you can play only with 30 fps 😅 but it's very good❤
NOW Buying a M1 - M3 Apple Silicon device is a waste of money! The release of the upcoming M4, M4 Pro, M4 MAX or maybe even M4 Ultra will cause a run on new Apple devices! Too sad, that Apple will not go down with the prices! That´s a shame! M1, M2 were excellent but incompatible in many ways and difficult to handle. And overall too expensive for businesses to make something extra! M3 is a slap in everyone's face! M4 will become a performance hit because it's not only a super fast ARM technology but also compatible with programming like Windows. Apple is going in the right direction but it's still too little to compete with Windows.
Akan wake 2 max ray tracing
RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2
Cyberpunk ray traing overdrive
Hellblade 2
Please run these on apple m3 max 40 cord
As soon as I can play COD and CS2 natively on my m3 max I trash my gaming PC.
raytracing is overhyped and not worth the performance hit. games don't need ray tracing to look realistic, a good art direction and lighting is all you need.
True. But PATH Tracing is worth it.
@@MrRobaloAmigoYeah ray tracing being worth it is heavily dependent on the game. In Cyberpunk it’s 100% worth it, especially with path tracing, but in a lot of other games it’s not even noticeable. Control is another game where ray tracing makes a big difference. Also Minecraft.
@@-BurbActually it depends on if you a rtx4090 with either a Ryazn 9 or i9. Other wise forget.
@@evacody1249 Definitely not, I use a 4070Ti and 7700x(new upper-midrange build) and played through cyberpunk path tracing at 1440p ultrawide at ~80-90fps.
Yes, finally! Mac’s gonna be better for games than windows some day for sure
Mac will noy better gaming on windows.. Apple Don't have API as windows
Why every other video includes CHANGES EVERYTHING? Are you all mad or what? When I see this in the title I immediately ask RUclips to stop recommending the channel
Try apex legends
Buy windows if wanna play the game bruh you ain’t stupid
Emulation should receive a big bump with AVX 2
I'd be amazing if macos finally becomes a good gaming platform like it started in the early 2000s. It would be soo beneficial for us high quality people developers, creators, businessmen to get even better hardwer BY them imbecil gamers buying more and more apple pc's boosting the sales