These are excellent videos. Thanks for posting. I have logged some time in a RAF 2000 years ago and this is a good reminder of my lessons. I have about 2500 hrs in mostly fixed wing crafts. 210 Cessna, Piper Archer and several experimentals.
Thanks for your response. PIO is the correct term for porpoising. I don't believe the RAF 2000 had a horizontal stabilizer. Maybe that's why I was so nervous about PIO. I stayed below the 85 mph the instructor told me was VNE. My family has a history of flying gyro's back to the 60's in a Benson. My dad's cousin flew the Benson as a glider and self powered craft with a vw engine. I do not enjoy the videos here on RUclips that demonstrate wrecks from lack of proper training. Then all the misguided comments that follow these video's. Keep up the good work. Stay safe and enjoy.
Vne is 100mph in the UK, (I think a bit more in Italy). If by porpoising you mean PIO (pilot induced oscillation) it isn't really a function of speed, as the controls get harder to move at higher speeds. It is much more an issue of pilot training, though you do need smaller movements at higher speeds.
+Nick Fortescue something else worth mentioning is the magni m16 (this aircraft) has a relatively large horizontal stabiliser, so is very well behaved compared to early Gyrocopter models
Hi Nick, I'm really enjoying the videos! Two quick q's if I may? 1: In the zero airspeed descent do you feel any negative G, or get a sinking feeling? 2: When they talk about recovery from unusual attitudes, what are these in a gyro? Cheers Richard
You definitely don't get negative G. 1: If the rotors get unloaded in a gyro that is very dangerous. It depends what you mean by a sinking feeling. You are descending but not very quickly. I guess it would be like in an elevator. 2: Unusual attitudes are defined in the PPL (G) Syllabus (page 34 here: www.britishrotorcraftassociation.co.uk/instructors/PPLG%20Syllabus%202009%20Rev%20A.pdf ). They are things like recovery from a steep nose down attitude, or a slow speed descending turn.
I guess the latter, but not really either. Usually doing this exercise you are high enough for safety that you don't really get much of a sense of the descent. It just feels like you are floating in air
These are excellent videos. Thanks for posting. I have logged some time in a RAF 2000 years ago and this is a good reminder of my lessons. I have about 2500 hrs in mostly fixed wing crafts. 210 Cessna, Piper Archer and several experimentals.
awesome, thank you. I did a bit of fixed wing as a teenager (chipmunks with the RAF and cessna's), but I'm loving gyrocopters.
Thanks for your response. PIO is the correct term for porpoising. I don't believe the RAF 2000 had a horizontal stabilizer. Maybe that's why I was so nervous about PIO. I stayed below the 85 mph the instructor told me was VNE. My family has a history of flying gyro's back to the 60's in a Benson. My dad's cousin flew the Benson as a glider and self powered craft with a vw engine. I do not enjoy the videos here on RUclips that demonstrate wrecks from lack of proper training. Then all the misguided comments that follow these video's.
Keep up the good work. Stay safe and enjoy.
What is VNE on this aircraft before the possibility of porpoising?
Vne is 100mph in the UK, (I think a bit more in Italy). If by porpoising you mean PIO (pilot induced oscillation) it isn't really a function of speed, as the controls get harder to move at higher speeds. It is much more an issue of pilot training, though you do need smaller movements at higher speeds.
+Nick Fortescue something else worth mentioning is the magni m16 (this aircraft) has a relatively large horizontal stabiliser, so is very well behaved compared to early Gyrocopter models
Hi Nick, I'm really enjoying the videos! Two quick q's if I may? 1: In the zero airspeed descent do you feel any negative G, or get a sinking feeling? 2: When they talk about recovery from unusual attitudes, what are these in a gyro? Cheers Richard
You definitely don't get negative G.
1: If the rotors get unloaded in a gyro that is very dangerous. It depends what you mean by a sinking feeling. You are descending but not very quickly. I guess it would be like in an elevator.
2: Unusual attitudes are defined in the PPL (G) Syllabus (page 34 here: www.britishrotorcraftassociation.co.uk/instructors/PPLG%20Syllabus%202009%20Rev%20A.pdf ). They are things like recovery from a steep nose down attitude, or a slow speed descending turn.
so when you are going vertical, are you sitting on the cusp of a bubble staying balanced or feel more as though you are hanging under an umbrella ?
I guess the latter, but not really either. Usually doing this exercise you are high enough for safety that you don't really get much of a sense of the descent. It just feels like you are floating in air