FireDemon 216 does forza have crash physics? Does forza have a modding community? Does forza have have 6 maps that is bigger than the original? Does forza have different engine sounds than a copy pasted lambo v12? Does forza have slow motion in real time? That’s why I like beam. Thank you for my ted talk.
I think because, since the rollcage adds stiffnes to the car, eliminates the efectivity of crumple zones, thus more force is applied to the occupants in case of crash. Don't really know, just a guess
Official Ariel Marsiglia my Dad works at Magna in Austria and I learned more from him and his simulations and beamng drive about forces than in Physics lessons in 4 years!
Yeah, the test dummies are rather wonky. I appreciate the time and effort mod devs have put into them, but it would be nice to see them formally added to the base game. It's certainly within the realm of possibility. The issue with the dummy mods seems to be caused by the game engine itself, and how it struggles with simulating very small objects and their interactions with other objects. The game was designed to simulate soft-body collisions with low coefficients of restitution (COR). The interaction between a dummy and the interior of a car involves collisions with higher elasticity, meaning a higher COR. I.e., objects tend to bounce rather than crumple. When a small object interacts with a larger one, you get lots of inaccuracy. While the small object may have 5 or 6 nodes in a given area, the larger object may have only 1 or 2. This leads to lots of rounding and less accurate simulations. You can see this by placing a bunch of small objects in a container. They'll have a tendency to bounce around indefinitely, like some kind of infinite feedback caused by the higher elasticity. To accurately model a dummy, you need to factor in things like seat deformation and seatbelt tension, collisions between the dummy's hands and steering wheel, etc.. It's definitely not impossible, but it will require a _ton_ of optimization changes to the game engine itself.
The thing about roll cages (and why their sometime illegal on the street ) is they have to be combined with a racing seat and seatbelts to be effective. With normal seatbelts you're upper body can move far more, allowing you head to smash against the bars, causing more damage than the crash often times. For street use, a roll bar, basically the back half of a cage, would be more than enough to help survive a lot of these impacts.
If you have a roll cage on a street car, then you'll often see people put foam tubing that is a couple of inches thick around the tubes that are exposed.
Instead of testing stuff that might never happen *AKA Car Crusher, Car Sleds* you should test stuff that do happen in real life *AKA failed drifts, freeway crashes, texting while driving, turning left in NASCAR* for more accurate scenarios
@@pospc2 the rollcage in my mini cooper s just sits welded to the frame, so people can still get into the rear seats. theres a bar that runs under the rear seats to add rigidity. I only had to cut out a a slot under the right and left side aircon vents to weld it to the front end of the frame, still looks clean tho.
@@PneumaticFrog that's great! I actually have a g35 sedan that i want to get a cage in. I don't want to give up my rear seats. As for my original reply. I was saying if you take the car with seats out,carpet out and as much of the dash out and still be drivable they typically quote about $2k to install a cage. Then you have to modify as needed the panels and reinstall. More or less if all they have to do is bend and weld it in then its $2k. That doesn't include paint or disassembly of the car to be able to fit the cage.
Actually, to have a proper caged vehicle you have to remove alot of the safety features already in your vehicle, and without a helmet your more likely to bash your head off it than you are anything else
@@badrott8028 yeah but I'm pretty sure airbags are supposed to save your neck at 70mph at the expense of ribs and and a broken nost. With a roll cage, helmet, and seat, you're better off at most speeds, sans 70mph where you will probably get a concussion hitting your head
Roll cages are safe for racing scenarios because your car is more likely to flip or roll over than to take on a head on collision. For street use, cars are designed to have crunch zones in the car to slow down the impact in the event of a crash. I still think that all cars should have some sort of roll cage integrated in the main cabin for roll overs. Doesn’t necessarily need to be like a rally roll cage, but something to make the frame more sturdy
I wrecked my hillclimb car about 15 years ago (head on into a tree at 70mph). Car didn't look too bad apart from the frontal damage. Unbolted the rollcage when it was going to be taken away for repair and the car literally bent like a banana. So much that it cracked the windscreen. Rollcages are a must if you intend to do any kind of motorsport at all
In some cases There are crumple zones and airbags that can get taken out by roll cages like side airbags and well the crumple zones. But more true than having no crumple zone So Rollcage and No Rollcage = liv liv
In america with certain insurance companies, you can get lower insurance for having a roll cage. Since roll cages increase safety, however many people don't add them due to comfort.
Me : *Randomly watching this in my tv* my mom : *Sees* *Tommorow* me : why my car having a rollcage? my mom come : Its for safety reason son By the way iam not joking,my mom just buy a rollcage for my car.
That's why you see them in Indy cars, you can't go 200+ mph in the real world, smash into something, and have a high probability of living through it like you see multiple times in NASCAR
The purpose of a roll cage is to chanel the impact force around and not through you.Should you forget to wear 6 point seatbelt and a helmet the roll cage will kill you before the car collpses around you.IMHO the results in this nice video are invalid.
Shame to see how many people are thinking rollcages are the best thing ever and apply everywhere. Yes they work well in certain accidents but they are very much not good for your daily driver unless it suffers from very specific problems. Most modern cars have substantial strength in the A, B and C pillars and are unlikely to completely fold as seen in a typical 30-40mph crash. You also have airbags, inertia reel seatbelts, and crumple zones that absorb energy from the crash. Kinetic energy from the two cars going into deforming those structures would be put into the current safety devices, making them less effective, or worse be put though your body, potentially causing significant injury. If your car is older it is likely it doesn't have these advanced safety features and so a roll cage makes a little more sense, but you'll also need consider the seat, seat belt and potentially roll cage padding to ensure the cage doesn't become another way to meet your end.
Well I guess roll cages actually help the car for safety reasons. So I think the tesla has one but you cant see it so when the car tips it breaks the fall and not let gravitational pull, pull it to the ground because of the weight and the secret roll cage makes it to were it to were the roof is sturdy enough to were the roof wont cave in as much so people can stay safe and I think thats how the Tesla got a 5 star in saftey.
My mom still thinks roll cages are uslees because "they dont save you from crashes seat-bealts will" but she doesnt know that i have painted my roll cage black so she doesnt notice (if your wondering that she can see the poles when she opens the door ill just tell her its there to protect the doors) (she also never met the inside of a Rollcage before lmao)
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As a person who have crashed from racing. Roll cages have kept me alive and well.
So . What are you doing on a vid made on computer by some ignorant kid about crashing???
@F20s BeamNG is a very realistic game. It’s honestly better than forza. You should watch more about beam.
@@andrewauto6082 even though I've never played Beam NG Drive I know it's better
AndrewAuto This has better physics, besides that forza is better
FireDemon 216 does forza have crash physics? Does forza have a modding community? Does forza have have 6 maps that is bigger than the original? Does forza have different engine sounds than a copy pasted lambo v12? Does forza have slow motion in real time? That’s why I like beam. Thank you for my ted talk.
Now I'm thinking of adding rollcage into my car
Speedster 61 do you want to take a look on my channel?
I thought the same thing lol
Obviously I don’t have a car but I thought the same type of thing
I am
Not the only one
Well, rollcages are banned in my country for "safety reasons" 😂😂
@Любослав Николов i got no idea
I think because, since the rollcage adds stiffnes to the car, eliminates the efectivity of crumple zones, thus more force is applied to the occupants in case of crash. Don't really know, just a guess
@@sdc303 Well, I thought in case of fire, due to the rollcage you can't get our as fast as without it, so that may be the case as well
In my country welded rollcages are banned, but you can still have rollcages with bolts.
@Caleb Gilliland Czech Republic
I am sick and tired of damn concrete blocks landing on my roof 😤
It's definitely a nuisance in my town LOL
Its for a roll over accident
@@isaacbest3702 you fun sponge 🧽 😆👍🏻
how about a piano?
@@clee5653 yes, good point. A Steinway approved rollcage perhaps?
1:05 R.I.P. to his Hand lol
"almost zero structural damage"
Leon Rot 0:31 is similar
too much meme man
@@Ivann15 yeah def bro :D
@@Ivann15 you are also memera rent you?
This is where i learn more than my school
And i am serious
Official Ariel Marsiglia I believe you!
Official Ariel Marsiglia my Dad works at Magna in Austria and I learned more from him and his simulations and beamng drive about forces than in Physics lessons in 4 years!
@@standardheat-fs8159 Physics is mostly about maths and equations lol.
@@IliRIS-kn2rd I mean the forces like centrifugal but yes also maths
They can live now
Can’t wait to see nascar
Sub
Walter
I cant see the vid bc of your head Walter
The first roll cage test looks like it broke his neck
“Almost 0 structural damage” his neck is literally broken LMAO
Neck isn’t a structure 🙂
@@revico9353 lmfao
of course you get the impact, but better prepare than sorry LMAO
Yeah, the test dummies are rather wonky. I appreciate the time and effort mod devs have put into them, but it would be nice to see them formally added to the base game. It's certainly within the realm of possibility. The issue with the dummy mods seems to be caused by the game engine itself, and how it struggles with simulating very small objects and their interactions with other objects. The game was designed to simulate soft-body collisions with low coefficients of restitution (COR). The interaction between a dummy and the interior of a car involves collisions with higher elasticity, meaning a higher COR. I.e., objects tend to bounce rather than crumple.
When a small object interacts with a larger one, you get lots of inaccuracy. While the small object may have 5 or 6 nodes in a given area, the larger object may have only 1 or 2. This leads to lots of rounding and less accurate simulations. You can see this by placing a bunch of small objects in a container. They'll have a tendency to bounce around indefinitely, like some kind of infinite feedback caused by the higher elasticity.
To accurately model a dummy, you need to factor in things like seat deformation and seatbelt tension, collisions between the dummy's hands and steering wheel, etc.. It's definitely not impossible, but it will require a _ton_ of optimization changes to the game engine itself.
@@nameismetatoo4591 thx bro you learned me a lot of things
The thing about roll cages (and why their sometime illegal on the street ) is they have to be combined with a racing seat and seatbelts to be effective. With normal seatbelts you're upper body can move far more, allowing you head to smash against the bars, causing more damage than the crash often times.
For street use, a roll bar, basically the back half of a cage, would be more than enough to help survive a lot of these impacts.
Wow i didn’t know that. Thanks
The problem with rollcage is that you can hit your head on the bar, that's why you can't drive without a helmet
If you have a roll cage on a street car, then you'll often see people put foam tubing that is a couple of inches thick around the tubes that are exposed.
@@MajesticDemonLord pool noodles
It's why there's padding.
@@MajesticDemonLord i dont think a pool noodle will help that much
You wear a seat harness and a neck brace to bed safe
Volvo + rollcage = TANK
Spelled Saab wrong
@@cellphone7951 they do pretty darn well without
Spelled mercedes wrong
Alluv. Actually, you spelled Volvo wrong too!
@@cellphone7951 thats not saab
1:03 Sure, almost zero structural damage, but what about his spine?
dont you just hate it when concrete barrier falls on your car... yeah me too
live2day ikr
@@e36fanatics ruclips.net/video/qhQ9tDn189E/видео.html
Thanks, I installed rollcage and now I can finally be safe from concrete Barriers falling above my car. Thanks to this vid xd
Si, es muy común que se caigan barreras de concreto diariamente encima del auto de uno 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Instead of testing stuff that might never happen *AKA Car Crusher, Car Sleds* you should test stuff that do happen in real life *AKA failed drifts, freeway crashes, texting while driving, turning left in NASCAR* for more accurate scenarios
Wouldnt it be more dangerous to turn right in NASCAR?
EdyAlbertoMS
Simple
"If you turn a hard enough left, you'll find yourself going right"
-Doc Hudson
@@thatonedude7147 you don't have to hard left in nascar though
EasiaZ
Meh It could happen
@@thatonedude7147 yea but it's unlikely
0:41. The concrete block dropped so hard that the ambulance also bounced
LMAO!
LOL
i like that he's straight to the point, nothing extra unnecessary shits
0:32 HE NEED SOME MILK
NE NEED MORE CALCIUM HIS BONES ARE SUFFERING
Its me or the car looks kinda...
T H I C C
Me before seeing the video: I don't need that in my car
After: how much costs one of these mom?
Around 2k if you have the interior stripped already. In my area.
@@pospc2 the rollcage in my mini cooper s just sits welded to the frame, so people can still get into the rear seats. theres a bar that runs under the rear seats to add rigidity.
I only had to cut out a a slot under the right and left side aircon vents to weld it to the front end of the frame, still looks clean tho.
@@PneumaticFrog that's great! I actually have a g35 sedan that i want to get a cage in. I don't want to give up my rear seats.
As for my original reply. I was saying if you take the car with seats out,carpet out and as much of the dash out and still be drivable they typically quote about $2k to install a cage. Then you have to modify as needed the panels and reinstall.
More or less if all they have to do is bend and weld it in then its $2k. That doesn't include paint or disassembly of the car to be able to fit the cage.
@ArulVon Fadhilah it’s a joke
Have fun wearing a helmet
Without the roll cage, of course, it will be more deadly during the rollover. This is why we should need those.
Actually, to have a proper caged vehicle you have to remove alot of the safety features already in your vehicle, and without a helmet your more likely to bash your head off it than you are anything else
They’re called roll cage for a reason
@@badrott8028 yeah but I'm pretty sure airbags are supposed to save your neck at 70mph at the expense of ribs and and a broken nost. With a roll cage, helmet, and seat, you're better off at most speeds, sans 70mph where you will probably get a concussion hitting your head
But if ur car caught on fire its harder to get out
@@Quesadillareallygoodntastylol. It needs the fire extinguisher.
4:50 ow my hand is dead
Just some traumatic brain injuries he'll be fine
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oh,i never seen a barrier bounce a car with rollcage,now i get it.
Roll cages are safe for racing scenarios because your car is more likely to flip or roll over than to take on a head on collision.
For street use, cars are designed to have crunch zones in the car to slow down the impact in the event of a crash.
I still think that all cars should have some sort of roll cage integrated in the main cabin for roll overs. Doesn’t necessarily need to be like a rally roll cage, but something to make the frame more sturdy
I think this is the best way to demonstrate with rollcage VS without it, within quarantine...
With a roll cage you'll live, but in a wheelchair.
That better than sleeping in a wooden box inside the mother Earth
Idk if life would be worth living anymore if i couldnt drive.
Alluv but you can drive tetrapregic...
Putting a roll cage in my car even if I don't race and drive with football or hockey equipment on lol.
This just shows how Rollcage is important to motorsport and other safety reasons
Conclusion: first car mod should be a rollcage
I mean you wouldn’t be going to be needing it that much with a stock
Rollcage is like superman, live saviour
I’ve always been concerned about falling concrete blocks. This is a great solution to bed my fears.
I wrecked my hillclimb car about 15 years ago (head on into a tree at 70mph). Car didn't look too bad apart from the frontal damage. Unbolted the rollcage when it was going to be taken away for repair and the car literally bent like a banana. So much that it cracked the windscreen. Rollcages are a must if you intend to do any kind of motorsport at all
Long story short...
No rollcage= ded ded
Yes rollcage= liv liv
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Woud u lik sum b e p I s
In some cases
There are crumple zones and airbags that can get taken out by roll cages like side airbags and well the crumple zones.
But more true than having no crumple zone
So Rollcage and No Rollcage = liv liv
In america with certain insurance companies, you can get lower insurance for having a roll cage. Since roll cages increase safety, however many people don't add them due to comfort.
Me : *Randomly watching this in my tv*
my mom : *Sees*
*Tommorow*
me : why my car having a rollcage?
my mom come : Its for safety reason son
By the way iam not joking,my mom just buy a rollcage for my car.
No way
What is your mom car ?
Pić proof?
when your driving down the road and a concrete roadblock falls on your car
Ded
R.I.P. His hand
Good video
0:39 the most important thing is that ambulance in the back
safety first ;)
0:42 OHHHHHHHH
So *that's* how they put up concrete barriers
0:24 my body after one night of gaming
"almost zero structural damage"
me: *Sees his hand floating in front of him*
Moral of the story is to add a rolecage to everything
I think i like crashes more, but this is Nice too!
I wasn't expecting that big of a difference
Me: Theres not going to be a bog difference
Future Me: WTF they can now live
Didn't even realise this was carmighty at first, and damn has he come a long way. Keep it up 👍
Concrete barrier: falls
The guy inside the car with no roll cage: halp my back
The roll cage can’t hit my head if I’m short hahahaha
Hold up, boy in the roll cage still getting spanked tho 😂
I'm alive because a 6 point saved my life in a 140mph crash on the street. I hope this educates some people. Thanks for making it!
glad to still have you here!
thanks for watching!
Woah. This is why i want get BeamNG Drive, But my PC doesn't run the game :(
I hope all car have a rollcage
Hey
@Federico MARCHETTI "Shure" :D
I’m just glad EMTs were on the scene in case they got hurt. SAFTY FIRST!! (test #1)
With rollcage: You exit the car after the crash to collect its parts.
Without rollcage: someone needs to find Your body parts after the crash.
iPhone: no rollcage
Nokia: breaks off the barrier into two pieces
0:42 that concrete dropped so hard that the ambulance bounced
We are all doom when it starts raining concrete barriers
Nices Video! ;D Mach sowas mal bitte mit F1 Wagen! :)
gute idee!
Aber Formel 1 Wagen haben noch gar keinen Überrollbügel???
ich glaube es geht ihm generell um Sicherheits-tests.
Zum Beispiel HALO gegen fliegende Gegenstände! ;)
genau das! ;)
@CarMightyVids wusste gar nicht das du deutsch kannst
Definitely adding it to my rust bucket 2nd gen f body
Isn't the only problem with rollcages that the g forces on your body will be higher on specific accidents. Im i right?
Thats Why I have Rollcage in my car
BY RECARO
Recaro is Not just making Seats but they are also Making Rollcage🥰
That's why you see them in Indy cars, you can't go 200+ mph in the real world, smash into something, and have a high probability of living through it like you see multiple times in NASCAR
That is why racing cars use a roll cage to reduce the impact of an accident or when the car overturns.
The purpose of a roll cage is to chanel the impact force around and not through you.Should you forget to wear 6 point seatbelt and a helmet the roll cage will kill you before the car collpses around you.IMHO the results in this nice video are invalid.
This is what gov. vehicle department thinks when Someone try to register a modified car
LLOtalk brought me here XD
That first guy was like 🤚🏼👁👄👁🤚🏼
Mercedes: *fine*
Me: rOll cAgE
Mercedes: bruh im not gonna be a rally car am i?
Me: *yes u are now shut up*
Rollcage testing except its top gear and the grand tour style
Bro how it feels when your grandma hugs you
LLOTALK brought me here, nice video!
Person wait lemme check my mirror 3:09
This is fine.
Good one
Shame to see how many people are thinking rollcages are the best thing ever and apply everywhere. Yes they work well in certain accidents but they are very much not good for your daily driver unless it suffers from very specific problems. Most modern cars have substantial strength in the A, B and C pillars and are unlikely to completely fold as seen in a typical 30-40mph crash. You also have airbags, inertia reel seatbelts, and crumple zones that absorb energy from the crash. Kinetic energy from the two cars going into deforming those structures would be put into the current safety devices, making them less effective, or worse be put though your body, potentially causing significant injury. If your car is older it is likely it doesn't have these advanced safety features and so a roll cage makes a little more sense, but you'll also need consider the seat, seat belt and potentially roll cage padding to ensure the cage doesn't become another way to meet your end.
Can't wait for the IIHS to do the side pole testing. I think they do it in Europe
If you make cars with rollcage everyone becomes a rally driver
The windows are more strong then the roll cage..
The windows dont even break 😂😂
LIAR
there are some nice cars in this video
this is why we should all install rollcages to our daily drivers!
Welp time to convince my wife to buy a rollcage
I'm gonna ad to my moped one (rollcage)
I like how the license plate on the rollcage car in the crusher was "yikes"
Ten bucks says he won’t like this, also your content is awesome thx for keeping me acupied
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GRAVIL
WITH
NO
ROLL CASE!
WOOOOOOO
Wooooooooo
Beamng drive,
the real driving simulator
llotalk brought me here!!!!!!!!
Well I guess roll cages actually help the car for safety reasons.
So I think the tesla has one but you cant see it so when the car
tips it breaks the fall and not let gravitational pull, pull it to the
ground because of the weight and the secret roll cage makes
it to were it to were the roof is sturdy enough to were the roof
wont cave in as much so people can stay safe and I think thats
how the Tesla got a 5 star in saftey.
Learned my lesson. Blue cars are just better.
I hate it when my concrete barrier falls from the sky. I need to get a roll cage.
The voice at the end scared the shit out of me
My mom still thinks roll cages are uslees because "they dont save you from crashes seat-bealts will" but she doesnt know that i have painted my roll cage black so she doesnt notice (if your wondering that she can see the poles when she opens the door ill just tell her its there to protect the doors) (she also never met the inside of a Rollcage before lmao)
LLotalk brought me here
LLoTalk brought me there.
They should build every car with roll cage from factory!
I think eventually every car should come from factory with a build in roll cage. For saftey reasons. Its just safer.
Car + Rollcage = Safety 90%
= Racecar
Rollcage into every car, no only racing cars
LLOTALK bought me here, thank you for you permission of using your video in his video clips
Thank you Carmightyvids, very cool
I guess my smartphone also needs a rollcage
🤣🤣🤣🤣
People with roll cage in their cars, be careful encountering a car crusher on your way home, you won't survive that.
What application/program are you using?
Cages in daily drivers are a death trap, youre just asking for a caved in skull amd possibly dying from an accident you would have otherwise survived