@@JohnBorstlap The quality of someone's narration of our world has nothing to do with the state of the world, but with the perceptiveness and expressiveness of the narrator. So the fact it's about a world that's currently in turmoil is no less of a recommendation than if our world was doing great.
Fascinating Polyrhythm, You've got me on the go! Fascinating Polyrhythm, I'm all a-quiver. What a mess you're making! The neighbours want to know Why I'm always shaking Just like a flivver. Each morning I get up with the sun- Start a-hopping, Never stopping- To find at night no work has been done. I know that Once it didn't matter- But now you're doing wrong; When you start to patter I'm so unhappy. Won't you take a day off? Decide to run along Somewhere far away off- And make it snappy! Oh, how I long to be the man I used to be! Fascinating Polyrhythm, Oh, won't you stop picking on me?
It is defenitly one of his best works. But the Kyrie from Requiem, and his other concerti (Piano, Cello, Violin, Hamburg (horn) and Double (flute and oboe)) are also really striking, well crafted and masterfully written pieces.
This concerto is a choke point between the masterworks of his so-called "first manner" (among which the concerto for cello and that for flute and oboe) and the further compositor's evolution. Some "breaking" features could be found within these previous works.
The section from 9:20 to 10:30 was hugely influential to Frank Zappa, so much of his more 'difficult' music is directly based on these rhythmic structures.
Secondo il mio orecchio due brani che mettono pace tra gusto tradizionale e totale libertà dalle regole com positive sono: Schubert /Berio RENDERING Hendrix /pat methney THIRD STONE FROME THE SUN
@@segmentsAndCurves Yeah, I like apples too-almost as much as jokes about someone called Appleseed being seen everywhere because apples spread their seed far 'n wide.😉👍
3:22 to 3:29 that is one freaky violin sound! I'm sure it has a name and all decent violinists know about it, but to me it sounded like an electronic musician was twisting a cutoff knob on the recording.
@@Rufusdos Yes. The score says "sul pont.", which means to play the bow near the bridge so as to bring out the higher harmonics. The other strings are also playing with mutes and bowing over the fingerboard (which creates an even more interesting texture).
13:03 I wonder why the marking for the conductor only mentions thumb, index finger, ring finger and Little finger (->"whole Hand), or in other words, why did he leave out "thumb + index finger + Middle finger" while specifying "thumb + index finger + ring finger" without the middle finger? Not that it would have changed anything About the Music or have any other significance to the piece, but is there a reason for that?
Basically he asks the conductor to show 1, 2, 3 and 5 (without 4) because at distance, and at speed, 4 could easily be mistaken for 3 or 5. So it's just to reduce the possibility for confusion.
I always wonder how accurate to the score performances of micropolyphonic works are. The fact that it's hard to tell is kind of the point, but the fine distinctions it asks of the players seem to verge on the impossible, and I wonder if they really do pull it off anyway.
Such sonic art pieces are never quite correctly played but that does not matter, it is the gesture and the overall effect which counts. The players just hope for the best - as the conductor hopes. And everybody is counting like mad.
I don't consider Ligeti, Stockhausen, Xenakis, and other similar composers as "Music" composers, but rather "Sound Collage" composers. I'm not very inclined towards the static and discontinuous Sound Collages by the latter two, but Ligeti's Sound Collages have a dynamic smoothness to them; they "feel" closer to music because they "flow," and that's what makes them more interesting. Edit: I've been getting several replies from some people claiming that music is "organized sound." I agree that on a basic level, this is true. However, I believe that music goes far beyond just organizing sounds. Music is a language, a form of intelligent communication. To claim that music is only "organized sounds" is like proclaiming English to be "organized letters." This sentence I'm typing is certainly an organization of letters, but so is ABCABCABC and agklsfocofekocmwefjsdotsdfcjsd. The latter, however, is unintelligible. Similarly, the "organization" I've heard within sound collage is unrecognizable as any pattern. Music depends upon a recognizable pattern in order to hold musical interest. I'm not only referring to meter, but also to melodic, harmonic, dynamic, and tone color patterns. Either the patterns in sound collage don't exist, or they are too long and complex for the human mind to detect. Sure, you could probably find whatever crazy patterns a sound collage composer used by looking at the score, but I personally don't want to have to analyze a score in order to understand (or even remotely enjoy) a recording. I'm sure that most people don't want to, either. Music should be an enjoyable, expressive art form, not a scientific study. I hope I have enlightened you with my humble opinion on music.
I love how the instrumentation specifies that you can use either a harpsichord or a Hammond organ, and either a piano or a celesta. In each case giving you a choice between two completely different instruments. I wonder how this will sound on Hammond organ and celesta?
This is a correct description. It is sound art, dehumanized, as the world we currently live in is dehumanizing. The entire modern world as it developed in the last century is characterized by this process of dehumanization. Ligeti has sensed this very aptly.
Personal view ... Sorry to say, does absolutely nothing for me emotionally or intellectually... if structure there is (and i'm sure there might be some kind of structure within...), it is haphazard and random to my ear. Watching the score with the outlandish time signature changes makes me think that simplicity is sometimes a blessing... and that novelty for the sake of novelty has its limits.
All the technique going into this piece is inaudible and deviations would not make any difference in effect. All the complex instructions are meant to create a great intensity in the players, to get it right. Pieces like this are not meant to convey anything emotional or intellectual, in terms of music. The emotional effect of it is a dehumanizing one, symbol of the modern world. With music, that is a very different art form....
One of the true hilights in western music. Ligeti is a great narrator of our world.
Which is in itself not a recommendation, given our world as it is.
Who doesn't love this kind of commonplaces
@@JohnBorstlap The quality of someone's narration of our world has nothing to do with the state of the world, but with the perceptiveness and expressiveness of the narrator. So the fact it's about a world that's currently in turmoil is no less of a recommendation than if our world was doing great.
Ligeti never ceases to amaze me with his incredible musical imagination.
the best moment in music history.
空間や方角を感じるような金管の響きの後に絶え間ないチェンバロの重音連打 次々とアイデアを繰り出してくるリゲティの作曲法は私も親近感を覚える
13:40 fascinating polyrhythm!
Fascinating Polyrhythm,
You've got me on the go!
Fascinating Polyrhythm,
I'm all a-quiver.
What a mess you're making!
The neighbours want to know
Why I'm always shaking
Just like a flivver.
Each morning I get up with the sun-
Start a-hopping,
Never stopping-
To find at night no work has been done.
I know that
Once it didn't matter-
But now you're doing wrong;
When you start to patter
I'm so unhappy.
Won't you take a day off?
Decide to run along
Somewhere far away off-
And make it snappy!
Oh, how I long to be the man I used to be!
Fascinating Polyrhythm,
Oh, won't you stop picking on me?
I think this is the best thing Ligeti wrote
Kyrie from Requiem.
I prefer his piano concerto
It is defenitly one of his best works. But the Kyrie from Requiem, and his other concerti (Piano, Cello, Violin, Hamburg (horn) and Double (flute and oboe)) are also really striking, well crafted and masterfully written pieces.
*The worst
@@diegosepulveda2222 *The what?
Through the miracle of youtube we get to see uploads like this and see the score along with the music, thank you for this!
05:02 rip headphone users
ow what the fuck was that for lol
第一楽章の摩擦を感じる度数が違い擦り合うような繰り返しのフレーズ、そして第一楽章の後半の多声部分の複雑さはすごい
Saw Boulez conduct this piece in Edinburgh. Marvelous!
Yes Edinburgh is a nice town.😆👍
Masterpiece ♥️
음악 끌고가는 힘이 진짜 장난아님 이 곡 너무 재밌네
This concerto is a choke point between the masterworks of his so-called "first manner" (among which the concerto for cello and that for flute and oboe) and the further compositor's evolution. Some "breaking" features could be found within these previous works.
Maximo intrigo.........BRAVI from Acapulco!
This is fantastic. Great video, I really appreciate it!
The section from 9:20 to 10:30 was hugely influential to Frank Zappa, so much of his more 'difficult' music is directly based on these rhythmic structures.
Frank Zappa? ...that's sad.
Hah, nice! Reminds me of "IIII'm riding a small tiny hoss" (Montana)
@@timages Cry about it.
@@segmentsAndCurves You should have a good cry over the realization that you shit about music, ...you clown.
@@timages Cry about it
Thank you for the score.
Masterpiece!
Masterpiece.
Secondo il mio orecchio due brani che mettono pace tra gusto tradizionale e totale libertà dalle regole com positive sono:
Schubert /Berio RENDERING
Hendrix /pat methney THIRD STONE FROME THE SUN
Nice profile picture man.
Great piece!
Bless you for this :)
i see you everywhere
@@emanuel_soundtrack 🍏🍎Apples are known to spread their seed far 'n wide.😬
@@darrylschultz6479 I like apples
@@segmentsAndCurves Yeah, I like apples too-almost as much as jokes about someone called Appleseed being seen everywhere because apples spread their seed far 'n wide.😉👍
@@darrylschultz6479 yes.
Please, keep on uploading contents !
I'm visiting the pub later so there's quite a good chance I will.🤮
the polyrhythms
Interestingly, the score looks very complex but the sound effect could be written-out in a much simpler way, with barlines through the whole tecture.
that third movement had me on my knees🧎🏾♂️
materiale prezioso. Grazie di condividere
ma perchè un nome falso ahahahah
Liggeti with advertising to stop your apreciation, wow moments
Vast majority of us subscribe to RUclips premium. Suggestion: get a job. Subscribe to premium. Quit posting ignorant comments. That was easy.
@@stueystuey1962 You gotta consider the fact that some of us do not have a life (yet).
Awesome
3:22 to 3:29 that is one freaky violin sound! I'm sure it has a name and all decent violinists know about it, but to me it sounded like an electronic musician was twisting a cutoff knob on the recording.
It's called a trill :)
@@juliusseizure591 but he/she somehow manipulated the overtone on the upper note?
@@Rufusdos Yes. The score says "sul pont.", which means to play the bow near the bridge so as to bring out the higher harmonics. The other strings are also playing with mutes and bowing over the fingerboard (which creates an even more interesting texture).
@@juliusseizure591 Woah, thanks! It sounds amazing.
I first heard the sul point trill in the Game of Thrones soundtrack of all places so whenever I hear that effect I immediately think of that show
13:03 I wonder why the marking for the conductor only mentions thumb, index finger, ring finger and Little finger (->"whole Hand), or in other words, why did he leave out "thumb + index finger + Middle finger" while specifying "thumb + index finger + ring finger" without the middle finger? Not that it would have changed anything About the Music or have any other significance to the piece, but is there a reason for that?
Basically he asks the conductor to show 1, 2, 3 and 5 (without 4) because at distance, and at speed, 4 could easily be mistaken for 3 or 5. So it's just to reduce the possibility for confusion.
息の長い音の使い方が上手い
I always wonder how accurate to the score performances of micropolyphonic works are. The fact that it's hard to tell is kind of the point, but the fine distinctions it asks of the players seem to verge on the impossible, and I wonder if they really do pull it off anyway.
It's pretty damn close!
If you can't tell if it's right, it's right.
Such sonic art pieces are never quite correctly played but that does not matter, it is the gesture and the overall effect which counts. The players just hope for the best - as the conductor hopes. And everybody is counting like mad.
Some parts call for the gesture to be accurate, others need the timing to be precise. High level players know which are which
How can you put an advert in the middle of this. Absolutely ridiculous!
...very nice Mugi
based Ligeti
Is it true the original title of this piece was The Life of Insects?
I don't consider Ligeti, Stockhausen, Xenakis, and other similar composers as "Music" composers, but rather "Sound Collage" composers. I'm not very inclined towards the static and discontinuous Sound Collages by the latter two, but Ligeti's Sound Collages have a dynamic smoothness to them; they "feel" closer to music because they "flow," and that's what makes them more interesting.
Edit: I've been getting several replies from some people claiming that music is "organized sound." I agree that on a basic level, this is true. However, I believe that music goes far beyond just organizing sounds. Music is a language, a form of intelligent communication. To claim that music is only "organized sounds" is like proclaiming English to be "organized letters." This sentence I'm typing is certainly an organization of letters, but so is ABCABCABC and agklsfocofekocmwefjsdotsdfcjsd. The latter, however, is unintelligible.
Similarly, the "organization" I've heard within sound collage is unrecognizable as any pattern. Music depends upon a recognizable pattern in order to hold musical interest. I'm not only referring to meter, but also to melodic, harmonic, dynamic, and tone color patterns. Either the patterns in sound collage don't exist, or they are too long and complex for the human mind to detect. Sure, you could probably find whatever crazy patterns a sound collage composer used by looking at the score, but I personally don't want to have to analyze a score in order to understand (or even remotely enjoy) a recording. I'm sure that most people don't want to, either. Music should be an enjoyable, expressive art form, not a scientific study.
I hope I have enlightened you with my humble opinion on music.
Music is organised sounds..
ok
@@yagiz885 music is the conceptualization of sound.
I love how the instrumentation specifies that you can use either a harpsichord or a Hammond organ, and either a piano or a celesta. In each case giving you a choice between two completely different instruments.
I wonder how this will sound on Hammond organ and celesta?
No the instrumentalists simply change instruments. No choosing
If i'm not mistaken there are two keyboard players and each doubles on two instruments
@@slateflash exactly
Must be where Steve Reich got the idea from
Great work, excellently performed. Too bad the video is marred by a low-level hum throughout. What, they couldn't EQ it out?
The hum does fit quite well with the piece, which is about hums.
BUENARDAAAAAA
*Cagardaaaaaaaaa.
@@diegosepulveda2222 enhorabuena
12:09
yes it is gepopo
This particular piece describes exactly the terrible world we currently live in
This is a correct description. It is sound art, dehumanized, as the world we currently live in is dehumanizing. The entire modern world as it developed in the last century is characterized by this process of dehumanization. Ligeti has sensed this very aptly.
二度音程がぶつかり合うフレーズがリゲティにはよく見られる。同音連打、ボリリズムもそうだが
12:57
he went fucked on this one
cry about it
@@GUILLOM nah its a good thing
@@GUILLOM no like its good it sounds good
@@MrTacoKingMC cry about it
@@GUILLOM 2 years later man we have to bury the hatchet
seems like techno in 14:12. lol
13:30
im slowly loosing my sanity... . . .
good
9:20 fac :v
Personal view ... Sorry to say, does absolutely nothing for me emotionally or intellectually... if structure there is (and i'm sure there might be some kind of structure within...), it is haphazard and random to my ear. Watching the score with the outlandish time signature changes makes me think that simplicity is sometimes a blessing... and that novelty for the sake of novelty has its limits.
All the technique going into this piece is inaudible and deviations would not make any difference in effect. All the complex instructions are meant to create a great intensity in the players, to get it right. Pieces like this are not meant to convey anything emotional or intellectual, in terms of music. The emotional effect of it is a dehumanizing one, symbol of the modern world. With music, that is a very different art form....
The worst shit I've ever heard.
Congrats
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congrats 😂