This removed my anxiety! I bought one to mod a few days ago and started reading on the web that Squier bodies are smaller! Mine looks to be around 45-46 mm. So I really hope a fender trem with a big block will fit.
Thank you : ) I once had a Callaham MIM spaced big brass block in a thin affinity and even though it hung out the back... it still ripped! Check your string spacing though please. These guitars won’t fit USA/ Vintage spaced tremolos without toothpicks, glue, and a little adventurous spirit!
Standard Strat body thickness is 1 3/4 inches. there have been variations in both Squier and Fender Guitars and some of both were thinner. It is a rare exception on a Fender
voice of reason yeah, lots of variation, when I was I kid in the late 90s-early aughts, everyone knew that an affinity had a thin body, that’s why I think this is so cool to me, even worthy of posting! Thanks for watching!!
Definitely not poplar in that photo. Coming from somebody that has worked with both species wood, that guitar body is alder. Poplar has a very light look with some stock having some darker almost green streaks. The wood itself feels very porous.
Apparently The changes where made in late 2019. I was fkn STOKED as that was the first thing I noticed was the full size body when I unboxed mine. The neck is a little more chunky though. Smooth fret ends, great tuners, only 1 string tree, 500k pots. Serial # CSSL comes back "special run". The only thing I would consider is swapping pickups. But beware, I tried to swap the neck for a 2004 affinity and the screw holes DID NOT line up!!! They are spaced wider on the new one. Got it for a backup strat ,and it is now my main strat haha
I've got a 1998 affinity Strat and it's also got a thick body, alder with rosewood fretboard and has 22 frets and nut width is 42. Awesome guitar, I call it my blues monster, moded with alnico 5s and some new tuners pots and decent 5way switch. Last thing to do is the nut at a fret level. . But as it is it's actually very resonant guitar and plays great through a voxac30.
The 22 frets is a nice touch. I don't know what the body is made of on my old 90's japanese squier strat with bridge humbucker, but the neck and fretboard are maple
@@realjabroni Man I just bought the "squire bullet pack" and I got the full size body it is crafted in Indonesia and 2020 model serial no is ICSK20028218.
Greetings! I like to get an actual Fender neck when I can, new or used. Those are becoming more and more expensive though, so our next episode features a 2003 Strat restoration that I’m using a brand new Allparts SMO neck on and I really like it. Stay tuned! I’ve never used a previous channel. Cheers!
I bought a black one of these in late 2019 before they were announced and was pleasantly surprised it was a 2020 version. Body is indeed poplar but quite honestly I can't tell the difference. Body thickness is about 2mm thinner than my MIM 70s Classic Ash Strat - but exactly the same as my 70s Matsumoku Strat copy. Things to be aware of though - the neck is slightly narrower at the nut than other Fender Strats. It appears to closely follow the template that the Japanese makers were using - not that that is a bad thing. Actually the pickup pole pieces are better aligned to the strings than more expensive Strats too so you have to be careful which covers you buy if you want to change colour. Just wish there were more quality pickups available like this.
the one channel i seen disscuss about this, all my answers too for e few month ago before im buying a squier, How abot tele's affinity 2019 vs 2020, did you knows too about body thickness and wood body,
I like lightweight thin bodies, a full size body is a negative for me. The only mod impacted is the tremolo. There are plenty of tremolos that fit and I never use the back plate. Guitarist should pay attention in science class, you guys don’t understand shit. Alder isn’t better, Leo Fender chose things because they were cheap not because of tone, he was an engineer so he knows tone wood on a solid body with magnetic pickups doesn’t mean squat.
They are supposed to be. The 2020 at my closest big box store is standard thickness. I would just make sure there’s a good return policy in case you somehow get shipped a thin one.
Curt Santner please let me know how it fits. Sounds like you’re going to have a DeLorean when it’s all said and done! I love that silver they are offering. Thanks for watching, Curt!
I purchased an alder Affinity in 2015 and was disappointed in how thin the body was. The SX I purchased in the same year was alder and had a thick body, its heavy too.
Hello! I think it is a very good guitar all-round for the price, especially if you are just beginning and don’t want to spend a lot of money. If you ever want to change any parts on the guitar, these are very good for learning home modifications! Cheers 🙂
@@TheCarGuy-- well to be honest playing a guitar 🎸 is a challenge you have got to no everything about it if it isn't how You want it you make it how you want it to be.trial and error. Thats all part of it I have had over a hundred guitars hi end and low end and to me one isn't much different from the other. Its all about feeling comfortable. That has everything to do with it. To be honest you take a peace of one guitar and put it on the other thats all part of the enjoyment of the instrument. Making it how you want .to many you tubers get on here and tell you there option along with 100 others and it gets confusing. There trying to sale there product.ir all comes down to the individual. Who takes the guitar seriously. Not the looks or the name its comfortable and sound and tone and having a good ear to be honest. Terring it apart and putting it back together and mod it out how you want it to feel and sound its imagination. And determination..that voices your guitar it don't matter what the name of it is you make it you a part of you .to be honest
@@jeffadams525 I bought a crappy guitar , as I'm a beginner , the action was insanely high , the fret wires were sharp enough to cut my fingers and they did draw out blood as I was sliding , so I just got a nicer guitar not very expensive ,(the Ltd 256) . And I enjoy playing on it I have made much progress .
steven Boulton That was the first thing I checked once I realized the body is now thicker! The neck on mine was a standard slim Affinity. Nice neck, but I’ve already sold it in favor of maple. Thanks for watching!
DOUBLE DIAMOND the exact number for the surf green one I bought for the video is 0370600557 on Fender’s website. Thanks again for watching! If you have any other questions, I’ll answer!
Enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing! I have a pre 2020 affinity strat and I know the body is thinner than standard but I wanted to know, is the size of the body (length and width) also smaller in the thinner affinities when compared to the new affinities and/or standard fender strats?
Thank you! The length and width of the thinner Affinities are standard. Those are delightfully cozy guitars. I used to love to play my thinner Affinity when I was the most comfortable at home.
Rob Douglas Yup, the new 2020 I just got in April is thicker than the one I bought in 2019. The new one is the same thickness as a standard Stratocaster! The thinner ones were cool too, but I was excited to see that the new Affinities are now full-sized!
714 Guitars damn I just ordered one a couple weeks ago and it’s a 2020 and I dig it a lot but a maple board and full size seems nice, the silver finish on the 2019 is great tho
714 Guitars not positive what the measurements are but it’s like wayyy thinner than my squier standard Mexican built strat. I don’t really mind but there is something nice about a more substantial guitar
Rob Douglas I think I know what you mean, I was pretty shocked to see the one I just ordered was thicker than before. My biggest curiosity right now though is the wood! Maybe basswood now?
The one in this video is just a stripped maple Squier neck. I perfected the frets and then sanded the coat down pretty close to the wood, but not all the way and then applied 10-12 light coats of StewMac nitro and buffed.
Thank you! I have at 2 more Squier videos going for 2021. Pinetop Jackson is working on one with my 1984 Squier Bullet right now, It should be up by March 2021
Thanks for weighing in! So far I’ve heard possible basswood, poplar and now birch. Good news is that the guitar has proven to sound very nice, regardless 😎
I just returned a brand new Affinity TELE and it sure as sh*t is THINNER than a real Tele. Hence, I went with the CV 50s Tele butterscotch. 9.1 lbs of like the original PINE. As far as people talking about CV & other Strats or Squiers body woods they have NO CLUE - forget it. My 3 year old CV Strat is Chinese and Alder/Maple - NEW CV Strats aren't Chinese (Indonesian) and are anything from NATO to POPLAR to SOFT MAPLE and PINE depending on the COLOR or NECK. A quick check of the stores will stop the nonsense. Oddly the crappy Affinity Tele was from China so origin means nothing as the Affinity is a waste of $250 anyway, imo. It takes more than $150 to make an Affinity "better" than a CV and it still wouldn't play nearly as well. 🎸
I recently picked up a 2012 affinity and so far I've swapped out the pickups and electronics with fender tex mex and bournes and orange drop. It's of course the slightly thinner body but it's not even noticeable unless you're thinking about it and it has a decent middle of the road weight to it. Mine is definitely alder too. Can't really go wrong with an affinity as long as you know what to expect and recognize it's potential..
@@realjabroni oh wow I'm loving it!..i also had a full setup with every possible thing gotten just right, and i do mean everything and it sounds and plays like a much more expensive guitar now.
Excellent! Yup solid setup on ours too and it plays better than anything I remember having until I was like 19-20 years old. Good call on the pickups, I’m deciding which ones to put in this Affinity and leaning either pure vintage or tex mex.
Bitchin show Brother!!! I am sub’d and looking forward to checking out all the vids..Thank You for the entertainment and the product introduction! Think I’ll go get one and set aside my other guitar. Check you later!
I’m looking at those, they look really nice and I love the prices. Have you had one? How would you rate the quality, like as far as strength/durability?
Making me want to buy one haha. Good to see you again! Surf green / seafoam green are both some of my favorite fender finishes.
Good to see you again, man! Especially now with the full body, I think it’s the best deal out there for for $200! It’s a Strat for sure : )
“people are gonna laugh at you
but people laugh at me all the time” killed me lol.
It’s true, almost every day! Haha. Thanks for watching, stay tuned for more 😁
This removed my anxiety! I bought one to mod a few days ago and started reading on the web that Squier bodies are smaller! Mine looks to be around 45-46 mm. So I really hope a fender trem with a big block will fit.
Thank you : ) I once had a Callaham MIM spaced big brass block in a thin affinity and even though it hung out the back... it still ripped! Check your string spacing though please. These guitars won’t fit USA/ Vintage spaced tremolos without toothpicks, glue, and a little adventurous spirit!
Standard Strat body thickness is 1 3/4 inches. there have been variations in both Squier and Fender Guitars and some of both were thinner. It is a rare exception on a Fender
voice of reason yeah, lots of variation, when I was I kid in the late 90s-early aughts, everyone knew that an affinity had a thin body, that’s why I think this is so cool to me, even worthy of posting! Thanks for watching!!
Most Squires are now poplar. I've got a new 70's Classic Vibe. It's great.
Those are great! I recently saw they’re using soft maple on the 70s strats. Is yours maple bodied?
Definitely not poplar in that photo. Coming from somebody that has worked with both species wood, that guitar body is alder. Poplar has a very light look with some stock having some darker almost green streaks. The wood itself feels very porous.
Apparently The changes where made in late 2019. I was fkn STOKED as that was the first thing I noticed was the full size body when I unboxed mine. The neck is a little more chunky though. Smooth fret ends, great tuners, only 1 string tree, 500k pots. Serial # CSSL comes back "special run". The only thing I would consider is swapping pickups. But beware, I tried to swap the neck for a 2004 affinity and the screw holes DID NOT line up!!! They are spaced wider on the new one. Got it for a backup strat ,and it is now my main strat haha
I've got a 1998 affinity Strat and it's also got a thick body, alder with rosewood fretboard and has 22 frets and nut width is 42. Awesome guitar, I call it my blues monster, moded with alnico 5s and some new tuners pots and decent 5way switch. Last thing to do is the nut at a fret level. . But as it is it's actually very resonant guitar and plays great through a voxac30.
The 22 frets is a nice touch. I don't know what the body is made of on my old 90's japanese squier strat with bridge humbucker, but the neck and fretboard are maple
What year is your squier affinity model?????
Please tell me 2019 model is good? I want 2020 model surf green color but in my region there is only 2019 model
Can I buy 2019 instead of 2020?
I have seen a 2019 serial number with the full body, but I would make totally sure before buying or make sure the return policy covers you.
@@realjabroni Man I just bought the "squire bullet pack" and I got the full size body it is crafted in Indonesia and 2020 model serial no is ICSK20028218.
sily question: what neck replacements you recommend, love your videos. is there any previous channel you used to use? Cheers!
Greetings! I like to get an actual Fender neck when I can, new or used. Those are becoming more and more expensive though, so our next episode features a 2003 Strat restoration that I’m using a brand new Allparts SMO neck on and I really like it. Stay tuned! I’ve never used a previous channel. Cheers!
@@realjabroni your act is so well put together!!! that's why i thought maybe you had another channel before. Cheers
I bought a black one of these in late 2019 before they were announced and was pleasantly surprised it was a 2020 version. Body is indeed poplar but quite honestly I can't tell the difference. Body thickness is about 2mm thinner than my MIM 70s Classic Ash Strat - but exactly the same as my 70s Matsumoku Strat copy.
Things to be aware of though - the neck is slightly narrower at the nut than other Fender Strats. It appears to closely follow the template that the Japanese makers were using - not that that is a bad thing. Actually the pickup pole pieces are better aligned to the strings than more expensive Strats too so you have to be careful which covers you buy if you want to change colour. Just wish there were more quality pickups available like this.
the one channel i seen disscuss about this, all my answers too for e few month ago before im buying a squier,
How abot tele's affinity 2019 vs 2020, did you knows too about body thickness and wood body,
Where did you get the neck? Price?
voice of reason stay tuned, you’ll see!
Señor, please tell me. I must know.
Why dont u tell us😢😤
I like lightweight thin bodies, a full size body is a negative for me. The only mod impacted is the tremolo. There are plenty of tremolos that fit and I never use the back plate. Guitarist should pay attention in science class, you guys don’t understand shit. Alder isn’t better, Leo Fender chose things because they were cheap not because of tone, he was an engineer so he knows tone wood on a solid body with magnetic pickups doesn’t mean squat.
Do fender neck fit now??
Yes! This one is a 2020 model and you can fit a standard Fender neck in the pocket 🎉
So does this apply to squiers as long as they have a 2020 serial number?
I can’t say for sure, but so far this year that has been the case with every 2020 I’ve seen!
@@realjabroni The race green Tele is calling me if it's full size.
They are supposed to be. The 2020 at my closest big box store is standard thickness. I would just make sure there’s a good return policy in case you somehow get shipped a thin one.
Mine is SN CSSL late 2019. Full size body. Thicker neck
Would a MIM neck fit a 2019 Affinty?
Curt Santner yeah, I’ve done it. If there are gaps it could be easily shimmed, but I fit a 2002 MIM neck to an Affinity body with no problems
@@realjabroni Thanks! I have a Slick Silver Affinity arriving Monday and I want to put a maple neck on it.
Curt Santner please let me know how it fits. Sounds like you’re going to have a DeLorean when it’s all said and done! I love that silver they are offering. Thanks for watching, Curt!
I purchased an alder Affinity in 2015 and was disappointed in how thin the body was. The SX I purchased in the same year was alder and had a thick body, its heavy too.
Hello from Colombia, I was thinking to buy this guitar, but I don't know if is a mistake, I'm beginner.
Hello! I think it is a very good guitar all-round for the price, especially if you are just beginning and don’t want to spend a lot of money. If you ever want to change any parts on the guitar, these are very good for learning home modifications! Cheers 🙂
Buy this guitar its for real it don't matter if your a beginner. Its the best out there for the money and then some .you want be disappointed.
@@jeffadams525 it does matter tbh , you don't want a bad quality guitar to hinder you from playing
@@TheCarGuy-- well to be honest playing a guitar 🎸 is a challenge you have got to no everything about it if it isn't how
You want it you make it how you want it to be.trial and error. Thats all part of it I have had over a hundred guitars hi end and low end and to me one isn't much different from the other. Its all about feeling comfortable. That has everything to do with it. To be honest you take a peace of one guitar and put it on the other thats all part of the enjoyment of the instrument. Making it how you want .to many you tubers get on here and tell you there option along with 100 others and it gets confusing. There trying to sale there product.ir all comes down to the individual. Who takes the guitar seriously. Not the looks or the name its comfortable and sound and tone and having a good ear to be honest. Terring it apart and putting it back together and mod it out how you want it to feel and sound its imagination. And determination..that voices your guitar it don't matter what the name of it is you make it you a part of you .to be honest
@@jeffadams525 I bought a crappy guitar , as I'm a beginner , the action was insanely high , the fret wires were sharp enough to cut my fingers and they did draw out blood as I was sliding , so I just got a nicer guitar not very expensive ,(the Ltd 256) . And I enjoy playing on it I have made much progress .
Where did you get the maple neck?!
Is the neck still the usual slim Affinity size? Or have the necks altered in size too???
steven Boulton That was the first thing I checked once I realized the body is now thicker! The neck on mine was a standard slim Affinity. Nice neck, but I’ve already sold it in favor of maple. Thanks for watching!
Loved this video man
What was the item id?
DOUBLE DIAMOND ayo! Thanks for watching, do you mean the serial number or the catalog id?
I belive the catalog Id?
DOUBLE DIAMOND the exact number for the surf green one I bought for the video is 0370600557 on Fender’s website. Thanks again for watching! If you have any other questions, I’ll answer!
@@realjabroni thanks, love the video btw
DOUBLE DIAMOND thanks! That means a lot to me, I’m only doing these to show off the beautiful Fender guitars and try to entertain you guys and gals! 🎸
Enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing! I have a pre 2020 affinity strat and I know the body is thinner than standard but I wanted to know, is the size of the body (length and width) also smaller in the thinner affinities when compared to the new affinities and/or standard fender strats?
Thank you! The length and width of the thinner Affinities are standard. Those are delightfully cozy guitars. I used to love to play my thinner Affinity when I was the most comfortable at home.
Wait so the 2020 is thick and the 2019 is thin?
Rob Douglas Yup, the new 2020 I just got in April is thicker than the one I bought in 2019. The new one is the same thickness as a standard Stratocaster! The thinner ones were cool too, but I was excited to see that the new Affinities are now full-sized!
714 Guitars damn I just ordered one a couple weeks ago and it’s a 2020 and I dig it a lot but a maple board and full size seems nice, the silver finish on the 2019 is great tho
Rob Douglas what’s the measurement on yours?
714 Guitars not positive what the measurements are but it’s like wayyy thinner than my squier standard Mexican built strat. I don’t really mind but there is something nice about a more substantial guitar
Rob Douglas I think I know what you mean, I was pretty shocked to see the one I just ordered was thicker than before. My biggest curiosity right now though is the wood! Maybe basswood now?
Many said that these have sharp corners, do they?
*at fretboards
They do have sharper edges than the rolled edges, but I don’t notice much when I play. It usually gets smoothed out when I work on the fret ends.
They needed a little sanding on mine - but not very much.
Just saw this video. Subscribed. I must know what replacement neck you used?
The one in this video is just a stripped maple Squier neck. I perfected the frets and then sanded the coat down pretty close to the wood, but not all the way and then applied 10-12 light coats of StewMac nitro and buffed.
It was nice to have a lite strat also. But it's all great!
Just bought one to do a tom Delonge strat build 🤘
Put the Fender N4 Noiseless pickups in it. Night and day.
Thanks Mike, those are on the table! I’ll do a follow-up once it’s modded.
Do a mod video on squier if you can
Thank you! I have at 2 more Squier videos going for 2021. Pinetop Jackson is working on one with my 1984 Squier Bullet right now, It should be up by March 2021
Did it come shipped with the Troma sticker on the box?
PinetopJackson I don’t even know how that got there! ; ) Thanks for watching and supporting independent art!
I don't know anything about woods. But it looks like birch to me. :)
Thanks for weighing in! So far I’ve heard possible basswood, poplar and now birch. Good news is that the guitar has proven to sound very nice, regardless 😎
@@realjabroni :)
@@realjabroni is the telecaster full thickness now or just the strat
I'm pretty sure the Affinity doesn't have a full thickness body 😮
Nice👍👍
I just returned a brand new Affinity TELE and it sure as sh*t is THINNER than a real Tele. Hence, I went with the CV 50s Tele butterscotch. 9.1 lbs of like the original PINE. As far as people talking about CV & other Strats or Squiers body woods they have NO CLUE - forget it. My 3 year old CV Strat is Chinese and Alder/Maple - NEW CV Strats aren't Chinese (Indonesian) and are anything from NATO to POPLAR to SOFT MAPLE and PINE depending on the COLOR or NECK. A quick check of the stores will stop the nonsense. Oddly the crappy Affinity Tele was from China so origin means nothing as the Affinity is a waste of $250 anyway, imo. It takes more than $150 to make an Affinity "better" than a CV and it still wouldn't play nearly as well. 🎸
I recently picked up a 2012 affinity and so far I've swapped out the pickups and electronics with fender tex mex and bournes and orange drop. It's of course the slightly thinner body but it's not even noticeable unless you're thinking about it and it has a decent middle of the road weight to it. Mine is definitely alder too. Can't really go wrong with an affinity as long as you know what to expect and recognize it's potential..
Yeah, nicely put. Enjoying it?
@@realjabroni oh wow I'm loving it!..i also had a full setup with every possible thing gotten just right, and i do mean everything and it sounds and plays like a much more expensive guitar now.
Excellent! Yup solid setup on ours too and it plays better than anything I remember having until I was like 19-20 years old. Good call on the pickups, I’m deciding which ones to put in this Affinity and leaning either pure vintage or tex mex.
*just bought one holy crap better than before *
Yup! I’m thinking so too with these
Bitchin show Brother!!! I am sub’d and looking forward to checking out all the vids..Thank You for the entertainment and the product introduction! Think I’ll go get one and set aside my other guitar. Check you later!
Thanks for the love! More episodes in production now and they’re made with you in mind, so don’t be a stranger.
I don’t want a full size body, my ideal is an S series Ibanez.
Meh just buy a Mex strat on credit problem solved.
Haha, I’ve done that too..
Glarry guitars have inexpensive hard shell cases
I’m looking at those, they look really nice and I love the prices. Have you had one? How would you rate the quality, like as far as strength/durability?