I've been obsessed with Russian history since the 7th grade. My wife a physician worked with a female natural born Russian in her 70's. Some of my best education was simply have several conversations over 20 years from her own words. She died last year at 77 and I will miss her dearly. I believe Russians are the most resilient, toughest people that ever lived. Fantastic video, thank you!
Sorry for your loss. Indeed, the Russians have a history that they are rightly proud of and remember closely to this day. That is why Ukrainian fascists will never able to defeat Russia.
@@redpen1917Russia trying to take land from Ukraine and there army so weak they can’t win, Russia is a joke and I’m sure they got some good people but most of their people easily lead and tell on one another
It's funny seeing people call this video biased towards Communism. I mean every person has bias but this is one of the thickest condemnations of Stalin and the firm hand of the Soviet State I've heard, especially from a Communist. I think hearing this perspective is welcome though. I consider myself someone very interested in Communism as clearly the Capitalist system is inherently oppressive and exploitative, but I'm still new to a lot of history (history not drowned in propaganda and hate, that is). So, good video.
This video sheds much light on a critical time in world history. Understanding this time is what is necessary in part for the success of the next century.
Your video seems to be very insightful so far! I am not able to presently watch all of it, though I’ve added it to my watch later list. I am leaving this comment in the hopes that the algorithm will show you some love.
stalin absolutely believed in the means to the end. he knew what had to be done and knew that if socialism wanted to be achieved, that measures would have to be taken. "I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy."
This is exactly what I needed… it’s so difficult to wade through the capitalist propaganda AND the blindly pro-Stalin historical revisionism to determine what’s accurate/fair and not… and I have severe ADHD that makes reading lots of original source material difficult for me at times
Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Seis años después (1957), lanzaron el Sputnik I. Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después les llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ―En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual, en 1936, propuso que fuese una campaña a nivel mundial. Iniciada por Stalin y secundada por todas las naciones del planeta, la viruela se erradicó en 1980―. Y, además el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? [*Y, acá, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada de nadie, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo amoroso.]. ¡¡¡SLAVA KOBA!!! СЛАВА СТАЛИНУ!!! ¡¡¡SLAVA STALIN!!! .
Very good presentation, thank you. The division in Soviet policies Geneticists vs Teleologists and its evolutionary repercussions worked its way, to the fall of the USSR in 1991. I'm third time reading through Pulitzer prize winning , Gorbechev, His Life and Times", where Gorbechev having been party boss of Agriculture areas said that was their downfall. The "planned economy", Gorbechev aimed to evolve into a blend called Perestroika.. More discussions welcomed to this video.
I feel like a lot of people don’t read the foundations of Leninism. I’m not implying this about you by the way jus to be clear. I read Foundations of Leninism multiple times and it told me almost nothing about Leninism on a theoretical level. I think it’s starting to be looked at as cringe or libbed up to like Trotsky more than Stalin. But a lot Trotskys writings are really good. And he did a lot of cool shit. When it comes to Stalin I really don’t get shit out of his writings. And I had to read people like Mao, Jose Maria Sison and Paul LaBlanc to understand more about Leninism. Unfortunately whenever I talk about these things I get labeled a trot, ultra, anarchist or a lib. And when it comes to the Trotsky Stalin split things seemed to have leaned more toward Stalin on the Marxist left but that could be because Trotskyists seem to have their own partys and stuff so they might seem like they are just part of their own sect other than part of the greater Marxist left. People will literally say insane shit like Stalinism doesn’t exist (it’s just Marxism Leninism) even though there were literally self proclaimed stalinists that led countries like Albania. This doesn’t help us when it comes to appealing to both regular people and other leftists. But I guess these things don’t matter to people who think we have enough people and power already, I mean either that or some people care more about ideological purity and not being libbed up than actually making change and appealing to regular people.
I definitely agree, if I’m not mistaken Stalin was somewhat infamous for having fairly shallow and sometimes outright strange personal theory. Not that he tried to intentionally subvert the original principles of people like Lenin, but more so that he tried to sort of “reverse engineer” the solutions he believed to be correct and fit them (or force them) into the ideology he proclaimed to uphold. To me personally, Stalin has always seemed like someone who put practice first, and then justified that practice through theory, as opposed to someone who applied a stable and unshakeable set of principles to practice
I’ve been binge watching your stuff like it’s breaking bad my guy 😅 I am halfway through the video and I was wondering, are you a Trotskyist or a regular Marxist Leninist?
This video is based on the historicaly work of E.H Carr, his belief are irrelevant. Marxism deals with fact, not vague idea or feeling. If your ideology isn’t able to work with reality, you are wrong.
I am really glad the algo sent me your stuff. This part of history isn’t covered much on the YT (by non-libs or right wingers who make the white forces out to be valiant crusaders instead of the monarchist clowns they were). Which text sources did you use or is there a list somewhere and if I go look I’ll be embarrassed?
I think maybe Stalin was a hard working which resulted in him expecting too much from the people not realizing something easy for him isn't as easy for the typical citizen...And because of Stalin, no one will ever know who Lenin really was since he died and lost power so young.
@@redpen1917As a communist, I'm here to tell you that there are far more generous critiques of Stalin out there than this, although I don't subscribe to most of them. I believe that the western view of Stalin ranges from propagandized and sensationalized to uneducated and misunderstood, but I'm not one of the "Stalin did nothing wrong" students like some of my comrades. Even they have some compelling arguments and the whole debate is a lot less disingenuous and disgusting than the "Hitler did nothing wrong" camp of fascists, but a lot of their pro-Stalin arguments amount to a stretch or having to view things from a very particular perspective, leading to a lack in objectivity.
The History of the Russian Revoluyion, by Trotsky, is so much better than Carr's (who was not a marxist). It's massive, but it is rich in details and from the perspective of someone who's been a integral part on the success of the Bolshevik Revolution. As a history teacher, I strongly recommend it.
Haven’t really checked out much of your channel, but this is pretty good. I’m definitely going to lean more toward the ‘Marxist Analysis of’ videos, as I think there’s a severe lack of that kind of content on RUclips. If I were to offer up suggestions, an analysis of student movements in the West would be very useful. I find that a hard question to answer in my organizing efforts… Anyway, I appreciate your efforts here! 赤い日本のために!
What is their place in the socialist movement? For example, it’s really hard to organize student unions, whether labor or tenant because of the transitory nature of students. You only get them for 4 years in most cases. On top of this, their place in capitalist society hasn’t fully settled yet. Many do have bourgeois aspirations, or at least want to become some kind of manager type, which means their allegiance to the labor movement often becomes tenuous at best, at least this has been my experience. Thing is, they can be radical, but oftentimes this radicalism manifests as just like, endless protests and stuff like that. I’m just wondering if you’ve ever thought of how to organize students in any kind of revolutionary way that is actually helpful to the movement
Whew! This stuff can get complicated! There are so many moving parts, so many threads to follow, the USSR had to drive by the seat of its pants through it all. It's certainly easy to romanticize revolution; it's a hell of a lot harder to actually pull it off and build from it. That's the lesson I'm learning. Being an armchair critic is really easy. I'm sorry you have to deal with so many idiotic comments. I've read a few after finishing this, and it's obvious a lot commentators didn't even watch the presentation! For me, this is what's always made Soviet history difficult: wading through all the sludge and not knowing what is useful, what is shameless propaganda, and there are trolls EVERYWHERE! The waters become so muddied you don't know what to think. At least I feel I like I have a bit more perspective on Stalin at this point, that he was a man with a very complicated and harrowing legacy. I feel like you were pretty even-handed about it. He had a very hard job to do, and maybe it wouldn't have needed to be so bloody if outside powers weren't constantly trying to scuttle Soviet development. For all its mistakes, I don't think the blame can be solely laid at the feet of the Soviet government. Western countries had a role in that, too, clearly.
Stalin is absolutely 100% to blame for the purges and the Holodomor,and all the ethnicity motivated killings and deportations, sure,the west was spying on the USSR but they were spying on each other as well and they should be,but to say the blame cant be soley laid at the feet of the Soviet government" is laughable, and I apologize for being rude or whatever but idk if youre just starting to research or whatever history,but where ever youve been getting your info is wrong
1917-1929 is the period of transition from revolution to counterrevolution. After the victory of Stalinism, any possibility of moving towards socialism was destroyed. What followed was the history of the development of state CAPITALISM.
42:35 This part is also about the failures of Vietnam as a socialist country. because it's beloves the market economy in the agricultures sectors, and especially in this regards. Now there are big farmer cartels walking around, threaten smaller farmers, coerce smaller farmers with thugs and legal loop hole in the sponge of law over here to sell their goods very cheap to them, so they can maximize the profits by selling at sky rocket prices in the cities, taking all the profits from the one who actually produces most of the market goods. And the Government is entirely on their side, as it is very easy to bought bureaucrat and officials with money in this god forsaken country, just like feudal time. Soviet Russia may had been a semi feudal society during that time, but Vietnam actively idolizes feudalism and countryside religious fanaticism. It's a culture here, and mostly the same for Cambodia and Laos, that big farmer have the right to coerce smaller farmers and bought the state in their favor. 58:55 basically how modern China see itself, as an supreme example of both socialism and a successful nations in general, which allows their business sectors to imperialize the global south, no different than the business sectors of the west.
@@redpen1917 Marx had died by 1883 and a Russian working class had already shown its revolutionary potential in the 1905 Soviet which Trotsky became the Chairman of until it was suppressed by the Czar. Trotsky's Permanent Revolution and later Lenin's April Theses would theorize the leadership of the working class in the coming revolution of the peasants.
@@redpen1917No? When Marx and Engels said that, they meant it would happen in the most industrialized of areas, where there were most proletarians. The Russian revolution was not the most industrial and had millions of peasants. Lenin did not reject this. He understood this which is why he hoped for revolution in a more developed area.
I feel bad for you @redpen1917 In the early USSR (under Stalin) this would’ve been heretical counterrevolutionary slander. To the west and the capitalists this is unabashed Stalinist apologia. I for one think you’ve given the first nuanced and balanced take (that I’ve heard from a presumable westerner) on these events that doesn’t sum things up as either “they were monsters and maneaters, what did you expect” or “it was all justified in the name of the glorious revolution”. This was a great historical event, pushed forward by often principled but always flawed individuals who made many mistakes. Some certainly became cynical and even truly monstrous over time, but assuming they were evil from the start is a really unfortunately misguided flattening of the true complexity of the process of revolution. I’d like to see someone try to do a perfect revolution, and I mean that with no sarcasm. I don’t think such a thing exists, but to see it would bring tears of joy to my eyes. All in all, great video, please don’t get bogged down by the hate and continue your work. I think it’s a very valuable synthesis of what modern leftists should take away from these events
I really liked hearing about the struggles of the first five year plan and the struggles with the peasants. Chinese Communists seem to have had better tactics and success in bringing them over to the revolution.
This is one of the few western videos that view Russia Stalin in a positive light for the benefit of the Russian people. The west always tried to make sure remain under develop just to take over Russia and sell Russia their manufacturing equipment. Stalin had no choice but to import from the USA and British technology . 😅 😂
Yeah they did. It was called operation barbarossa. And later the cold war - which was a mass slaughter of communists all across asia, latin america and africa.
The White Army was supported by the West. They wanted to shut down the socialist experiment as early as possible. This was directly after the end of WWI (also not taught in my history classes in school).
Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Seis años después (1957), lanzaron el Sputnik I. Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después les llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ―En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual, en 1936, propuso que fuese una campaña a nivel mundial. Iniciada por Stalin y secundada por todas las naciones del planeta, la viruela se erradicó en 1980―. Y, además el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? [*Y, acá, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada de nadie, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo amoroso.]. ¡¡¡SLAVA KOBA!!! СЛАВА СТАЛИНУ!!! ¡¡¡SLAVA STALIN!!! .
I know that is what they teach in school but it’s simply factually wrong and if anything it was the other way. The US emerged from WWII with a thriving economy, the only major power whose homeland was never seriously bombed, with colonial control of what had been part of the British empire. The Soviets were afraid that the US and UK were going to attack them just as they had after the first revolution, and as many US and UK leaders were encouraging, not to mention the US had nuclear weapons and at least for a while the Soviets didn’t. The Soviet people who bore the huge brunt of suffering from the Nazis were war weary and just wanted a decent economy. The idea that it was the US who were afraid of the Soviets is actually laughable if you look at the actual history. Don’t get me wrong, Stalin was a brutal tyrant and if he had the power that the US had, I’m sure he would have attacked. But he was also no dummy. He knew how overpowered he was compared to the combined might of the US and their allies. And that remained true for the entire Cold War. When JFK (someone I admire a lot) talked about a “missile gap” he knew it was backwards and that we had more and better missiles as well as bombers, bases ringing the USSR, and the support of virtually all of the richest most industrialized nations in the world. Read Legacy of Ashes, a great book about the history of the CIA. One of the things the author documents is how the actual analysts in the CIA knew the truth about how weak Russia was but they were coerced to go along with propaganda created to justify the insane level of military spending that has never ceased.
Imo based upon the three lies of Lenin, hatred took seed (as is the historical way of humanity throughout all time) and this is a causation which led to what may have been the most historical 20th-century political action.
Other views are often biased from a western capitalist perspective. Unfortunately when discussing different systems and their implementations it's difficult to not have any bias towards one side or the other.
@TheLeontheking Personally, I don't see the West's pro capitalist/anti communist bias as a problem......bc I obviously agree with that bias. Still, I thought this was a very interesting docu.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Economically communism has more downsides.stymieing economic growth & progress.
It was its "minuses" that made it the second largest economy in the world, and by some indicators the first? The USSR built so many plants and factories that our modern "elite" could not loot, destroy or simply sell them for 30 years after the collapse. We are still living on the Soviet legacy. The USSR produced everything from nails (for which we are now threatened with sanctions) to space rockets. So many universities and research centers were built that science was cutting edge in many fields. We were the first to fly into space. We were first in many things, and that is impossible without a strong economic base. We won World War II, and that's impossible without a strong economy! There was no unemployment. There was no homelessness. You could travel all over the USSR without fear that something would happen to you or that you would have nowhere to live. You could find a place to live and a job everywhere if you moved. I'll get tired of listing everything) At least find out what social guarantees Soviet citizens had - the most protected people in the world! Stalin had a plan to reduce the working day to 5 hours in the process of technical and technological development so that people could pursue science. No racial and national discrimination, everyone was each other's brothers (although now conflicts are breaking out in the CIS countries). In general, do not let yourself be deceived by myths about the USSR, these myths are invented in order to fearlessly rob the people. Happy October Revolution Day!
@@kot-bx9zv нет смысла им что-то доказывать и рассказывать. Все равно будут бубнить про СССР тюрьму народов и то, что америка войну выиграла. Но недолго. Скоро нахлебаются тоже своего "капитализма", сытая жизнь в европах заканчивается, плюс орды мигрантов , социалки на всех не хватит ,в общем наплачутся еще со своим "капитализмом".
@@kot-bx9zv There was no unemployment. There was no homelessness. You could travel all over the USSR without fear that something would happen to you or that you would have nowhere to live. [And so also, there was no *Holodomor*? ... That'd be like saying "There was no Japanese internment in the USA" during WWII]. Stalin had a plan to reduce the working day to 5 hours in the process of technical and technological development so that people could pursue science. [Great swaths of that "technical and technological development" was simply stolen from the West]. No racial and national discrimination, everyone was each other's brothers [Maybe the biggest deceit of all. Ask (among so many others) Poles and Ukrainians and/or families of victims of the Great Purge/Great Terror about all this "brotherhood"?] Seriously? Last: Is Russia today really all that much more than (a majority) Black Market economy? Truthful comment looms: *do not let yourself be deceived by myths about the USSR* = *Good advice about Russian propaganda/polemics against it's own people(s) regarding Soviet and 20th & 21st century Russian histories* ??
the word Russia literally means realm of boreas and names like BORIS derive from it to. Siborea(siberia) eastern realm hyborea(western russia) western realm the utopian giants who are friends whit greece were well known to greeks.
the white armies had extremely many foreign battalions and stuff in them, from 14 diffrent countries I think, would have been better to say something like "the bolsheviks fought Foreign backed white armies"
Fantastic exposition. What's your take on What Is Politics's video "why the Russian revolution failed when the rich kids do all the socialism" ? He makes claims to the effect that, 6 months after October Lenin and co destroyed all existing socialism, Lenin being anti-peasant, the Bolsheviks being led by petty bourgeoise corrupted by power..etc
Tbh, that sounds very much like the critique forwarded by the “workers opposition” - i very much admire Alexandra Kollontai, but her position was incorrect. Lenin obstructed the vision of the Workers Opposition in favour of one that prioritized centralized control and party discipline. It may not have been desirable, but it was necessary to maintain the revolution. Simply put, the working class and socialist state were not yet mature enough to hand over control to the workers. Bureaucracy was expedient.
@@redpen1917"No see, we need autocratic control by the Party until WE think the working class are ready, and then we'll simply let them take power, and not resist that change as every ruling class has." Also, "not desirable" and "fundamentally contradictory" are 2 different things.
That investments into new industry were seen as less profitable in market-economy than investments into already existing agriculture is an interesting point. Will remember to bring that up when people argue pro-market.
Dream: War communism was successful. Reality: Big cities depopulated and Lenin conceeded to the peasants by coming up with the NEP. (Often called the peasant Brest-Litovsk.)
Hmm - interesting that you don’t mention the liquidation of the Kulaks. Moreover, you categorise the Kulaks as feudal lords rather than productive landowners who produced a surplus. Regardless, this is still an interesting video, despite its apologetic approach to the worst system of government that has ever been tried and then tens of millions of people who have been slaughtered because of it.
Very interesting that they skipped over how the revolution ultimately caused tens of millions of people to die and starve to death, and then have approximately 15% of their population imprisoned into Gulags (many of them for perceived political crimes) where they became slaves of the Soviet government. Also interesting how they skipped over the fact that Russian citizens had no due process when they were arrested, no individual freedoms, and were victims of a tyrannical government. Also interesting how they tried to give the impression that Russia was a thriving economy. the Russian citizens were destitute, and the Soviet Union ultimately collapsed because the economic system failed.
@@redpen1917 check out Antony Beevor’s book about the Russian revolution and subsequent civil war if you would like an accurate accounting of the brutality the Bolsheviks inflicted on their own people in pursuit of their communist utopia. Check out Gulag Archipelago by Russian Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn to learn the true horror of Marxist equity. Or if that’s too complicated for you watch some documentaries about how Stalin murdered, imprisoned, snd starved to death tens of millions. The Soviet union had no redeeming qualities. It was as evil and anti-human as the third reich. To pretend otherwise is just willfully stupid.
@@redpen1917 You should not treat alot of these comments with the respect they do not deserve. He provides no sources for his claims nor did he dignify your video by actually watching it. He came to spread propaganda!
"Far more dangerous than all the Denikins, Yudeniches, and Kolchaks put together, since we are dealing with a country where the proletariat represents a minority." (Vladimir Lenin)
It’s a mistake to call the Soviet Union “socialist”. If anything, it was more like fascism except the state assumed control over the entire country. Stalin’s monstrous dictatorship inflicted unspeakable horrors on the people he ruled and he declined to support revolutions in the west, which only tended to reinforce the class collaboration of the social democrats. Trotsky and Lenin were right. Revolution in the west was essential to the success of their own revolution. When those revolutions failed, the Russian revolution was doomed and Stalin’s dictatorship was a disaster for the cause of Marxism because it became synonymous with Marxism and socialism in the minds of people around the world. Trotsky was right about the Stalinist dictatorship. “Socialism in one country” is an absurd notion and completely opposed to Marx. The Soviet Union was “state capitalism”, not socialism at all, as the working people had no power at all in that system. They were reduced to the state of serfdom and virtual slavery by a totalitarian state.
I want to begin by saying i haven't finished the video yet however i can say Decidedly The October Revolution was not Socialist Lenin's writings were based on Blanquism a school of thought denounced by Marx because it was Anti Worker and Undemocratic Blanquism just like Leninism later Marxism-Leninism are based around the Concept of a Vanguard Party made up of Socialist Intellectuals who would guide and lead the masses. However this is not Socialism because it is the Workers who rule not a new Intellectual Class and they rule through a Workers Party in a Multiparty Democracy where Trade Unions and the Power of Workers are entrenched in Capitalism before transitioning into Socialism through Worker Cooperatives and Probably some state ownership only in Public Utilities. The USSR and RSFSR before it ended Multiparty Democracy creating a farce where you vote for Party Appointed Candidates and where Unions are under the control of the party and dissent is a crime and all the industries are owned by the State run by Party Officials. Also i think War Communism was wholly unnecessary and it resulted in a Famine killing Millions while some temporary extreme measures should be taken in War like Censoring Press backing your enemies, instituting Martial Law in Areas close to the front while not hindering The rights of people to petition the Government for redress of their grievances, in the case of feeding the army financial incentives for greater food production and or having Soldiers help Farmers would help without starving the Farmers at the end of the day it's supposed to be a Workers Party carrying out the Will of Unions. Also what is the music used in this video i'm liking it so far.
The part about the Kulaks and the term being used to abuse poor peasants was not accurate at all and i urge you to read up about that topic more outside of sources which obfuscate the truth
Sure. I got that from EH Carr who is one of the most well regarded historians on the subject, but do you have a better source? I’m always open to learning more. Especially if it challenges bourgeois narratives.
@@redpen1917so I ended up finding a few. There's Anna Louise Strong's work on this subject. As well as Stalins "The Workers State: Lies about Soviet Russia", an interview he gave where he discusses the voluntary nature of the collectivization process and how that was the fundamental policy. Kulaks were outed as a,class enemy by their own traitorous activity, it wasn't some word thrown around for no reason. These people were purposefully sabotaging industry and grain production, and literally killing communists as well as collective farmers. They had a monopoly on farm implements as well as agricultural machines, livestock, and grain stores. Which is how they were able to induce a famine by murdering all the livestock and burning millions of tons of grain(see: Fraud, Famine, and Fascism)
Wow. Fantastic. I have a completely new admiration for Lenin and even Stalin and what communism did for the Russian people and for their worldwide influence.
The Russian Revolution is one of the most highly politicized events in world history. The bourgeoisie has a near monopoly on the knowledge that is produced in this area. This video is an attempt at a counter-history towards the subject, but is not the only interpretation.
@@redpen1917lavader is far better. Shilling in defense of one of the brutal and corrupt regimes in the history of the world is not going to grant you many favors. At least pretend to disavow ☠️
Communists wave the Red flag with pride, identify themselves as communist, quote Marx and Lenin without shame, and are openly fighting against capitalism. The USSR had terrible failures but it also had tremendous success. Communists need to learn from the failures and successes. There’s no shame in that, and certainly no need to “disavow” the Soviet legacy…..or the legacy of the French, Chinese, Haitian, Cuban (etc) Revolution for that matter. Besides, most of the info and perspective of this video is based on EH Carr’s text of the Soviet Union. Not only is he a well-regarded American historian, but is widely seen as the most sober and politically objective historian of the Soviet Union. He wasn’t even a Marxist.
Nice. Looking at your channel it's clear that you're rather pro-commi, yet you still bring up critique throughout the video. Good to not get a too ideology-driven narrative.
But all those countries allow for profit commerce and industry so the red ideology is sympathised with there, not actively practised or even pursued..USA sanctions if anything is what they are struggling with.
@@redpen1917 maybe i will it might just save us from pointless money wasting wars recessions and the sixth mass extincion but i wouldn't hold my breath because regardless of the ideology its humans in the drivers seat.
To state a few facts: Capitalism and the United States WON the Cold War while the Soviet Union disintegrated under its own weight without a single shot being fired; Socialism is the obsolete ideology that failed miserably in Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Grenada, Vietnam, North Korea, East Germany, Yugoslavia, Libya, Sri Lanka, Chile, Hungary, Nicaragua, Poland, El Salvador, Mozambique, Romania, Honduras, Mongolia, Bolivia, Afghanistan, Angola, China (which has been Capitalist in everything but name since the economic reforms of 1964 by Deng Xiaoping), Russia (of course), and everywhere else it has been tried. Capitalism continues to be the best and only option while Socialism continues to be the worst, the most failed and most lethal after having caused at least 120 million deaths in less than 90 years which would translate in more than 1 million deaths per year. BTW, how come reds keep bitching about American "imperialism" but never mention Chinese imperialism in Vietnam or North Korea? Or Soviet imperialism in Afghanistan, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, East Germany or Yugoslavia? Or Cuban imperialism in Angola, Mozambique, Grenada, Nicaragua or Venezuela? Or Yugoslav imperialism in Albania? And let's finish with the Socialist prayer: If it's a Socialist atrocity, it never happened If it happened, it wasn't that bad If it was that bad, they deserved it If they didn't deserve it, mistakes might have been made If mistakes were made, that wasn't real socialism.
Actual facts: 1) Not a single shot fired? Tell that to socialist Cuba, Vietnam, Indonesia, Korea, etc. 2) Socialism has given rise to the 2 fastest growing economies in world history - the Soviet Union and China. Communists were the first in space. 3) If you think a couple million deaths from famine is a failure of socialism, you have no idea what kind of barbarism socialist countries have historically emerged from. 4) Check out “Blackshirts and Reds” by Micheal Parenti for more history on the subject.
@@redpen1917 1) I said the Soviet Union fell without a single shot, what the hell does the 1960s Vietnam have to do with the fall of the Soviet Union? 2) Like I said, China hasn't been socialist except in name when they adopted Capitalism under the euphemism or "socialism with Chinese features" because they saw their country under socialism was dead broke. 3) And? 4) Nah (I don't waste my time studying obsolete evil ideologies) 5) Funny how you were unable to debunk the vast majority of my claims and the 4 you tried you failed. 6) If you want to learn more about ACTUAL socialism visit Venezuela by Hugo Chavez or North Korea by the Kim hereditary dynasty (in fact I WOULD DARE YOU to go live to any of the handful of "socialist utopias" that still remain).
@@charlesferdinand422 Most of your claims are just plain stupid or incorrect. Many of the countries you mentioned were quite literally invaded by the USA or fighting wars of sucessful national liberation led by communists. Your point at 5 is humorous as you didn't even know when Deng's reform was implemented, claims deaths by communism was 120 million despite no historical evidence with the closest estimate given by the black book or communism was 100 million( where did the 20 extra came from) which itself included mortalities caused with conflict with capitalist nations or outright fabrications. Anyway your clearly brainwashed, he quite literally sent you a book that goes through many of the claims you mentioned in detail with historical overview of socialism and you dismissed it. Clearly, you were not here for discussion but to spread propaganda.
@@charlesferdinand422 Also your first point still remains incorrect as 1993 constitutional crisis proves that wrong, the multiple pro soviet protest and the massive economic and social crises that happened during the transition from socialism to capitalism in Russia. Again your claims are farfetched or just propaganda like cuban "imperialism" as if angolans were so stellar about occupation by the SADF (apartheid armed forces) and UNITA. Like seriously Cuban imperialism in Grenada! America invaded Grenada, the most cuban involvement was miltary advisors...c'mon this is just brainwashed thinking. Also do you realize how stupid it is to complain about reds not complaining about soviet imperialism when multiple sections of communists do that. You mentioned yugoslav imperialism in albania, you do realize that Albania was a socialist country headed by Enver Hoxha who complained exactly about that with Mao which ideological sections agreed that Yugoslavia was imperialist, literally any communist who believes in Juche (North korean socialist ideology) accuses Yugoslavia as imperialist for supporting the UN invasion of the DPRK. How uneducated are you?!
Your “slave labour” comment is completely inaccurate so i wont respond to that nonsense. The “Murder” you are referring to occurred and was widespread. Thinkers I greatly admire were killed by fellow comrades, and it was nothing short of a horrific tragedy for many Communists. However, most of the people who were killed were not everyday workers, they were the political elite and in a power struggle from above. Everyday people were fine, except in cases of war and famine. Millions of people were not “murdered” but approximately 250,000 were killed under Stalin. The reason these murders offend the West is because Stalin killed people in the powerful class. In the west we call that “murder” while slaughtering the poor in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. and later calling it a tragedy. We are told to fear and hate Stalin because our capitalist exploiters fear and hate him. He used his power to wage war against capitalism and imperialism and had huge support. For this, the west will never forgive him or Russia.
@@redpen1917 More than 250,000 people died digging Stalin’s stupid canal. The archives have been opened, Solzhenitsyn was right. He was a better man than you and I put together. That you can talk about the Soviet Union and not talk about the Gulags or the gangs of comrades that made sure the Ukrainians didn’t have any food. There is a death order signed by Stalin to shoot 6 Ukrainian teenagers for picking up loose pieces of grain in the fields, at night, after the main crop had been harvested, and shipped away. I used to think like you do. Wake the fuck up.
Where were Soviet gas chambers- final solution? Ethnic massacres? Stalin attacked @dissident » Soviets finir alleged cause (actions- doing), Hitler attacked some for this reason, but e also attacked others simply for being who they born.
Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ---En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual propuso en 1936, que fuese una campaña mundial. La viruela se erradicó en 1980--. Y, más el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? [*Y, acá, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo]. .
Hitler preached an ideology of one race superior to others which should gain room (Lebensraum) for itself (and possibly exterminate the others). What Nazi Germany did throughout europe and other parts of the world are unspeakable crimes. Under Stalin many crimes were committed, but his motives and view of humanity were far above the likes of Hitler, Mussolini and the japanese military commanders (not naming Hirohito since he was not really the perpetrator of the war). And as the documentary says, if soviet Russia wouldn't have been there to stand against Nazi Germany, they would have swept through asia, and then have concentrated their energies on west (UK) and africa again. The western re-invasion (D-Day, battles in middle-east and north-africa) were facilitated by germany putting much of their energy eastward, and not getting access to the caucasian oil-fields.
@@redpen1917 Watch Noam Chomsky for his analysis of Marx versus Lenin. It was never a true Marxist socialist uprising. Lenin was an opportunist as most dictatorships are.
@@redpen1917Keep laughing. You're the Joker from Batman? Lenin and the Bolsheviks killed millions of innocent Christian peasants as well as others. Look it up.
Does the death of an aristocratic family weigh heavier on your judgement than the countless millions of peasant children who starved to death under the Tsar?
@redpen1917 exactly that's never mentioned you just see crocodile tears over these people who enslaved and killed the population while they had feasts and parties daily
great video man thanks for the effort. i hope this video somehow helps you keep your finances going.
I've been obsessed with Russian history since the 7th grade. My wife a physician worked with a female natural born Russian in her 70's. Some of my best education was simply have several conversations over 20 years from her own words. She died last year at 77 and I will miss her dearly. I believe Russians are the most resilient, toughest people that ever lived. Fantastic video, thank you!
Sorry for your loss. Indeed, the Russians have a history that they are rightly proud of and remember closely to this day. That is why Ukrainian fascists will never able to defeat Russia.
If you got your best education from a communist it isn't much of an education
We are also overly patient and often illogical.
@@redpen1917Russia trying to take land from Ukraine and there army so weak they can’t win, Russia is a joke and I’m sure they got some good people but most of their people easily lead and tell on one another
@@redpen1917Why, they are resisting invasion 🙄
It's funny seeing people call this video biased towards Communism. I mean every person has bias but this is one of the thickest condemnations of Stalin and the firm hand of the Soviet State I've heard, especially from a Communist. I think hearing this perspective is welcome though. I consider myself someone very interested in Communism as clearly the Capitalist system is inherently oppressive and exploitative, but I'm still new to a lot of history (history not drowned in propaganda and hate, that is). So, good video.
This video sheds much light on a critical time in world history. Understanding this time is what is necessary in part for the success of the next century.
As a historian specializing in the Russian revolution and the 20th century I have to say this is an excellent video. Very well put!
He missed electrification which was before industrialization as a basic of latter
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Even the part where he said that the Mensheviks were part of the Socialist Revolutionary Party?
Can you make more in detail videos on Soviet history? This is a really interesting survey but I'd like to see a more in depth account in video form.
Sounds like a great idea. I’ll be posting much more about China but will keep up with Soviet content as well.
Your video seems to be very insightful so far!
I am not able to presently watch all of it, though I’ve added it to my watch later list. I am leaving this comment in the hopes that the algorithm will show you some love.
stalin absolutely believed in the means to the end. he knew what had to be done and knew that if socialism wanted to be achieved, that measures would have to be taken.
"I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy."
Then why did he falsify Marx, "socialist commodities"? "socialist law of value"? "socialism in one country"? "socialist primitive accumulation"?
@@Saoirse-dm7ut All of that is addressed in the video
Stalin did not achieve socialism, he drowned in blood the very possibility of moving towards it. He became the leader of the counter-revolution.
Will have to watch a few times. There is much here to think about.
thanks bruv, excellent video
Severly underrated channel.
Thank you. Plz feel free to share.
This is Terrorist channel, - he killed millions of people.
This is exactly what I needed… it’s so difficult to wade through the capitalist propaganda AND the blindly pro-Stalin historical revisionism to determine what’s accurate/fair and not… and I have severe ADHD that makes reading lots of original source material difficult for me at times
Thanks for posting this great video. Richard in Dallas
Great Video, keep it up!
Very interesting, great presentation. Unbiased and factual, good perspective. Liked & subscribed
Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Seis años después (1957), lanzaron el Sputnik I. Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después les llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ―En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual, en 1936, propuso que fuese una campaña a nivel mundial. Iniciada por Stalin y secundada por todas las naciones del planeta, la viruela se erradicó en 1980―. Y, además el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? [*Y, acá, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada de nadie, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo amoroso.].
¡¡¡SLAVA KOBA!!! СЛАВА СТАЛИНУ!!! ¡¡¡SLAVA STALIN!!! .
Great video learned alot
VERY informative!
Its amazing how much the newly colored photos really bring everything back to life. Thank you for this video, you did an amazing job:)
Very good presentation, thank you. The division in Soviet policies Geneticists vs Teleologists and its evolutionary repercussions worked its way, to the fall of the USSR in 1991. I'm third time reading through Pulitzer prize winning , Gorbechev, His Life and Times", where Gorbechev having been party boss of Agriculture areas said that was their downfall. The "planned economy", Gorbechev aimed to evolve into a blend called Perestroika.. More discussions welcomed to this video.
'Evolve into a blend'
I feel like a lot of people don’t read the foundations of Leninism. I’m not implying this about you by the way jus to be clear. I read Foundations of Leninism multiple times and it told me almost nothing about Leninism on a theoretical level. I think it’s starting to be looked at as cringe or libbed up to like Trotsky more than Stalin. But a lot Trotskys writings are really good. And he did a lot of cool shit.
When it comes to Stalin I really don’t get shit out of his writings. And I had to read people like Mao, Jose Maria Sison and Paul LaBlanc to understand more about Leninism. Unfortunately whenever I talk about these things I get labeled a trot, ultra, anarchist or a lib. And when it comes to the Trotsky Stalin split things seemed to have leaned more toward Stalin on the Marxist left but that could be because Trotskyists seem to have their own partys and stuff so they might seem like they are just part of their own sect other than part of the greater Marxist left.
People will literally say insane shit like Stalinism doesn’t exist (it’s just Marxism Leninism) even though there were literally self proclaimed stalinists that led countries like Albania. This doesn’t help us when it comes to appealing to both regular people and other leftists. But I guess these things don’t matter to people who think we have enough people and power already, I mean either that or some people care more about ideological purity and not being libbed up than actually making change and appealing to regular people.
I definitely agree, if I’m not mistaken Stalin was somewhat infamous for having fairly shallow and sometimes outright strange personal theory. Not that he tried to intentionally subvert the original principles of people like Lenin, but more so that he tried to sort of “reverse engineer” the solutions he believed to be correct and fit them (or force them) into the ideology he proclaimed to uphold. To me personally, Stalin has always seemed like someone who put practice first, and then justified that practice through theory, as opposed to someone who applied a stable and unshakeable set of principles to practice
exhaustive presentation...able to get a wholesome view
Great video bro.
what happend to the opposition? I'll wait
I’ve been binge watching your stuff like it’s breaking bad my guy 😅 I am halfway through the video and I was wondering, are you a Trotskyist or a regular Marxist Leninist?
What's a regular Marxist Leninist?
@@hazelwray4184Everyone has their own version, others call selves various sorts of non Leninist Marxists.
This video is based on the historicaly work of E.H Carr, his belief are irrelevant. Marxism deals with fact, not vague idea or feeling. If your ideology isn’t able to work with reality, you are wrong.
After yiu finish with the entire soviet history, you should compile it into a 10 hour video. Would be fun to watch.
I’m the 1000th like! Hooray!
I am really glad the algo sent me your stuff. This part of history isn’t covered much on the YT (by non-libs or right wingers who make the white forces out to be valiant crusaders instead of the monarchist clowns they were). Which text sources did you use or is there a list somewhere and if I go look I’ll be embarrassed?
And yup it’s in the description. I’m stupid lmao
I think maybe Stalin was a hard working which resulted in him expecting too much from the people not realizing something easy for him isn't as easy for the typical citizen...And because of Stalin, no one will ever know who Lenin really was since he died and lost power so young.
Most generous critique of Stalin I’ve ever heard.
@@redpen1917As a communist, I'm here to tell you that there are far more generous critiques of Stalin out there than this, although I don't subscribe to most of them. I believe that the western view of Stalin ranges from propagandized and sensationalized to uneducated and misunderstood, but I'm not one of the "Stalin did nothing wrong" students like some of my comrades. Even they have some compelling arguments and the whole debate is a lot less disingenuous and disgusting than the "Hitler did nothing wrong" camp of fascists, but a lot of their pro-Stalin arguments amount to a stretch or having to view things from a very particular perspective, leading to a lack in objectivity.
The History of the Russian Revoluyion, by Trotsky, is so much better than Carr's (who was not a marxist). It's massive, but it is rich in details and from the perspective of someone who's been a integral part on the success of the Bolshevik Revolution. As a history teacher, I strongly recommend it.
Haven’t really checked out much of your channel, but this is pretty good. I’m definitely going to lean more toward the ‘Marxist Analysis of’ videos, as I think there’s a severe lack of that kind of content on RUclips. If I were to offer up suggestions, an analysis of student movements in the West would be very useful. I find that a hard question to answer in my organizing efforts…
Anyway, I appreciate your efforts here!
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What specifically about student movements?
What is their place in the socialist movement? For example, it’s really hard to organize student unions, whether labor or tenant because of the transitory nature of students. You only get them for 4 years in most cases. On top of this, their place in capitalist society hasn’t fully settled yet. Many do have bourgeois aspirations, or at least want to become some kind of manager type, which means their allegiance to the labor movement often becomes tenuous at best, at least this has been my experience.
Thing is, they can be radical, but oftentimes this radicalism manifests as just like, endless protests and stuff like that. I’m just wondering if you’ve ever thought of how to organize students in any kind of revolutionary way that is actually helpful to the movement
Whew! This stuff can get complicated! There are so many moving parts, so many threads to follow, the USSR had to drive by the seat of its pants through it all. It's certainly easy to romanticize revolution; it's a hell of a lot harder to actually pull it off and build from it. That's the lesson I'm learning. Being an armchair critic is really easy. I'm sorry you have to deal with so many idiotic comments. I've read a few after finishing this, and it's obvious a lot commentators didn't even watch the presentation! For me, this is what's always made Soviet history difficult: wading through all the sludge and not knowing what is useful, what is shameless propaganda, and there are trolls EVERYWHERE! The waters become so muddied you don't know what to think. At least I feel I like I have a bit more perspective on Stalin at this point, that he was a man with a very complicated and harrowing legacy. I feel like you were pretty even-handed about it. He had a very hard job to do, and maybe it wouldn't have needed to be so bloody if outside powers weren't constantly trying to scuttle Soviet development. For all its mistakes, I don't think the blame can be solely laid at the feet of the Soviet government. Western countries had a role in that, too, clearly.
Stalin is absolutely 100% to blame for the purges and the Holodomor,and all the ethnicity motivated killings and deportations, sure,the west was spying on the USSR but they were spying on each other as well and they should be,but to say the blame cant be soley laid at the feet of the Soviet government" is laughable, and I apologize for being rude or whatever but idk if youre just starting to research or whatever history,but where ever youve been getting your info is wrong
Russian history is amazing! I love it
good work
Great video. Can you make one video like this about Bukharin. I think that he is very important for understanding Great October socialist revolution.
Already in the works.
1917-1929 is the period of transition from revolution to counterrevolution. After the victory of Stalinism, any possibility of moving towards socialism was destroyed. What followed was the history of the development of state CAPITALISM.
42:35 This part is also about the failures of Vietnam as a socialist country. because it's beloves the market economy in the agricultures sectors, and especially in this regards.
Now there are big farmer cartels walking around, threaten smaller farmers, coerce smaller farmers with thugs and legal loop hole in the sponge of law over here to sell their goods very cheap to them, so they can maximize the profits by selling at sky rocket prices in the cities, taking all the profits from the one who actually produces most of the market goods.
And the Government is entirely on their side, as it is very easy to bought bureaucrat and officials with money in this god forsaken country, just like feudal time.
Soviet Russia may had been a semi feudal society during that time, but Vietnam actively idolizes feudalism and countryside religious fanaticism.
It's a culture here, and mostly the same for Cambodia and Laos, that big farmer have the right to coerce smaller farmers and bought the state in their favor.
58:55 basically how modern China see itself, as an supreme example of both socialism and a successful nations in general, which allows their business sectors to imperialize the global south, no different than the business sectors of the west.
Great video! Just one little thing at 4:10 . Do you mean that he argued against classical marxism? Lenin was an orthodox marxist.
He argued against Marx on the necessity of socialist revolution beginning in western Europe.
@@redpen1917 Marx had died by 1883 and a Russian working class had already shown its revolutionary potential in the 1905 Soviet which Trotsky became the Chairman of until it was suppressed by the Czar. Trotsky's Permanent Revolution and later Lenin's April Theses would theorize the leadership of the working class in the coming revolution of the peasants.
@@redpen1917No? When Marx and Engels said that, they meant it would happen in the most industrialized of areas, where there were most proletarians. The Russian revolution was not the most industrial and had millions of peasants. Lenin did not reject this. He understood this which is why he hoped for revolution in a more developed area.
@@handsfortoothpickshe specifically cited he wanted it to begin in Berlin if I remember
www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/ni/vol01/no04/marx.htm
I feel bad for you @redpen1917 In the early USSR (under Stalin) this would’ve been heretical counterrevolutionary slander. To the west and the capitalists this is unabashed Stalinist apologia. I for one think you’ve given the first nuanced and balanced take (that I’ve heard from a presumable westerner) on these events that doesn’t sum things up as either “they were monsters and maneaters, what did you expect” or “it was all justified in the name of the glorious revolution”. This was a great historical event, pushed forward by often principled but always flawed individuals who made many mistakes. Some certainly became cynical and even truly monstrous over time, but assuming they were evil from the start is a really unfortunately misguided flattening of the true complexity of the process of revolution. I’d like to see someone try to do a perfect revolution, and I mean that with no sarcasm. I don’t think such a thing exists, but to see it would bring tears of joy to my eyes. All in all, great video, please don’t get bogged down by the hate and continue your work. I think it’s a very valuable synthesis of what modern leftists should take away from these events
I really liked hearing about the struggles of the first five year plan and the struggles with the peasants. Chinese Communists seem to have had better tactics and success in bringing them over to the revolution.
This is one of the few western videos that view Russia Stalin in a positive light for the benefit of the Russian people. The west always tried to make sure remain under develop just to take over Russia and sell Russia their manufacturing equipment.
Stalin had no choice but to import from the USA and British technology . 😅 😂
EH Carr seems like a pretty dated source. More recent historians have access to the Soviet archives.
Any suggestions for a good alternate source?
@@redpen1917 Orlando Figes has an anti-commie slant, but his facts are tight
Excellent video - though I do not agree with some statements - which I consider wrong - about Stalin.
great video
Very paranoid of Stalin as the West then had no congealed desire to mess w or get involved with the Soviet system.
Yeah they did. It was called operation barbarossa. And later the cold war - which was a mass slaughter of communists all across asia, latin america and africa.
My brother in christ, the west invaded the country before and have completely antithetical world views
The White Army was supported by the West. They wanted to shut down the socialist experiment as early as possible. This was directly after the end of WWI (also not taught in my history classes in school).
Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Seis años después (1957), lanzaron el Sputnik I. Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después les llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ―En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual, en 1936, propuso que fuese una campaña a nivel mundial. Iniciada por Stalin y secundada por todas las naciones del planeta, la viruela se erradicó en 1980―. Y, además el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? [*Y, acá, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada de nadie, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo amoroso.].
¡¡¡SLAVA KOBA!!! СЛАВА СТАЛИНУ!!! ¡¡¡SLAVA STALIN!!! .
I know that is what they teach in school but it’s simply factually wrong and if anything it was the other way. The US emerged from WWII with a thriving economy, the only major power whose homeland was never seriously bombed, with colonial control of what had been part of the British empire. The Soviets were afraid that the US and UK were going to attack them just as they had after the first revolution, and as many US and UK leaders were encouraging, not to mention the US had nuclear weapons and at least for a while the Soviets didn’t. The Soviet people who bore the huge brunt of suffering from the Nazis were war weary and just wanted a decent economy. The idea that it was the US who were afraid of the Soviets is actually laughable if you look at the actual history. Don’t get me wrong, Stalin was a brutal tyrant and if he had the power that the US had, I’m sure he would have attacked. But he was also no dummy. He knew how overpowered he was compared to the combined might of the US and their allies. And that remained true for the entire Cold War. When JFK (someone I admire a lot) talked about a “missile gap” he knew it was backwards and that we had more and better missiles as well as bombers, bases ringing the USSR, and the support of virtually all of the richest most industrialized nations in the world. Read Legacy of Ashes, a great book about the history of the CIA. One of the things the author documents is how the actual analysts in the CIA knew the truth about how weak Russia was but they were coerced to go along with propaganda created to justify the insane level of military spending that has never ceased.
Imo based upon the three lies of Lenin, hatred took seed (as is the historical way of humanity throughout all time) and this is a causation which led to what may have been the most historical 20th-century political action.
What are the “three lies of Lenin” brother?
Lenin didn’t lie
What are the three lies?
@@redpen1917Peace ! Land ! Bread !
This is certainly an interesting view on the subject. Quite a biased view....hence the "Red Pen", but still very interesting take nonetheless.
Other views are often biased from a western capitalist perspective. Unfortunately when discussing different systems and their implementations it's difficult to not have any bias towards one side or the other.
@TheLeontheking Personally, I don't see the West's pro capitalist/anti communist bias as a problem......bc I obviously agree with that bias.
Still, I thought this was a very interesting docu.
This video is an apoligia for Stalinism. Which led to capitalist restoration starting in 1991.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Economically communism has more downsides.stymieing economic growth & progress.
It was its "minuses" that made it the second largest economy in the world, and by some indicators the first? The USSR built so many plants and factories that our modern "elite" could not loot, destroy or simply sell them for 30 years after the collapse. We are still living on the Soviet legacy. The USSR produced everything from nails (for which we are now threatened with sanctions) to space rockets. So many universities and research centers were built that science was cutting edge in many fields. We were the first to fly into space. We were first in many things, and that is impossible without a strong economic base. We won World War II, and that's impossible without a strong economy! There was no unemployment. There was no homelessness. You could travel all over the USSR without fear that something would happen to you or that you would have nowhere to live. You could find a place to live and a job everywhere if you moved. I'll get tired of listing everything) At least find out what social guarantees Soviet citizens had - the most protected people in the world! Stalin had a plan to reduce the working day to 5 hours in the process of technical and technological development so that people could pursue science. No racial and national discrimination, everyone was each other's brothers (although now conflicts are breaking out in the CIS countries). In general, do not let yourself be deceived by myths about the USSR, these myths are invented in order to fearlessly rob the people. Happy October Revolution Day!
@@kot-bx9zv нет смысла им что-то доказывать и рассказывать. Все равно будут бубнить про СССР тюрьму народов и то, что америка войну выиграла. Но недолго. Скоро нахлебаются тоже своего "капитализма", сытая жизнь в европах заканчивается, плюс орды мигрантов , социалки на всех не хватит ,в общем наплачутся еще со своим "капитализмом".
@@kot-bx9zv There was no unemployment. There was no homelessness. You could travel all over the USSR without fear that something would happen to you or that you would have nowhere to live. [And so also, there was no *Holodomor*? ... That'd be like saying "There was no Japanese internment in the USA" during WWII]. Stalin had a plan to reduce the working day to 5 hours in the process of technical and technological development so that people could pursue science. [Great swaths of that "technical and technological development" was simply stolen from the West]. No racial and national discrimination, everyone was each other's brothers [Maybe the biggest deceit of all. Ask (among so many others) Poles and Ukrainians and/or families of victims of the Great Purge/Great Terror about all this "brotherhood"?] Seriously? Last: Is Russia today really all that much more than (a majority) Black Market economy? Truthful comment looms: *do not let yourself be deceived by myths about the USSR* = *Good advice about Russian propaganda/polemics against it's own people(s) regarding Soviet and 20th & 21st century Russian histories* ??
the word Russia literally means realm of boreas and names like BORIS derive from it to.
Siborea(siberia) eastern realm
hyborea(western russia) western realm
the utopian giants who are friends whit greece were well known to greeks.
A civil war started: a bunch of foreigners formed an army to fight against Russians. ?????
the white armies had extremely many foreign battalions and stuff in them, from 14 diffrent countries I think, would have been better to say something like "the bolsheviks fought Foreign backed white armies"
Fantastic exposition. What's your take on What Is Politics's video "why the Russian revolution failed when the rich kids do all the socialism" ? He makes claims to the effect that, 6 months after October Lenin and co destroyed all existing socialism, Lenin being anti-peasant, the Bolsheviks being led by petty bourgeoise corrupted by power..etc
Tbh, that sounds very much like the critique forwarded by the “workers opposition” - i very much admire Alexandra Kollontai, but her position was incorrect.
Lenin obstructed the vision of the Workers Opposition in favour of one that prioritized centralized control and party discipline. It may not have been desirable, but it was necessary to maintain the revolution.
Simply put, the working class and socialist state were not yet mature enough to hand over control to the workers. Bureaucracy was expedient.
@@redpen1917 How large was this opposition?
@@hansfrankfurter2903 not sure, but it was definitely a minority.
@@redpen1917"No see, we need autocratic control by the Party until WE think the working class are ready, and then we'll simply let them take power, and not resist that change as every ruling class has."
Also, "not desirable" and "fundamentally contradictory" are 2 different things.
@@JSmusiqalthinka 80% of the population was illiterate. How are they supposed to govern?
5 millones de personas murieron de hambre? Dónde? En qué fecha?
EH Carr (1979) From Lenin to Stalin.
That investments into new industry were seen as less profitable in market-economy than investments into already existing agriculture is an interesting point.
Will remember to bring that up when people argue pro-market.
grande indiooo
Dream: War communism was successful.
Reality: Big cities depopulated and Lenin conceeded to the peasants by coming up with the NEP. (Often called the peasant Brest-Litovsk.)
the point of it was to win the civil war and it was succesful in doing that.
Hmm - interesting that you don’t mention the liquidation of the Kulaks. Moreover, you categorise the Kulaks as feudal lords rather than productive landowners who produced a surplus.
Regardless, this is still an interesting video, despite its apologetic approach to the worst system of government that has ever been tried and then tens of millions of people who have been slaughtered because of it.
54:13 He did. Several times in fact. But you would know that if you had listened to the presentation.
Russian Revolution, by a Trot
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@@redpen1917😊
The Russian Revolution: After October...It was all downhill from there...
good base material, needs some dramatisation and sectioning to make it more digestable, imo
Very interesting that they skipped over how the revolution ultimately caused tens of millions of people to die and starve to death, and then have approximately 15% of their population imprisoned into Gulags (many of them for perceived political crimes) where they became slaves of the Soviet government. Also interesting how they skipped over the fact that Russian citizens had no due process when they were arrested, no individual freedoms, and were victims of a tyrannical government. Also interesting how they tried to give the impression that Russia was a thriving economy. the Russian citizens were destitute, and the Soviet Union ultimately collapsed because the economic system failed.
I said 5 million died of famine, but not surprised the guy with such a dumb response doesn’t pay attention. You a fan of Jordan Peterson?
@@redpen1917 check out Antony Beevor’s book about the Russian revolution and subsequent civil war if you would like an accurate accounting of the brutality the Bolsheviks inflicted on their own people in pursuit of their communist utopia. Check out Gulag Archipelago by Russian Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn to learn the true horror of Marxist equity. Or if that’s too complicated for you watch some documentaries about how Stalin murdered, imprisoned, snd starved to death tens of millions. The Soviet union had no redeeming qualities. It was as evil and anti-human as the third reich. To pretend otherwise is just willfully stupid.
@@redpen1917 You should not treat alot of these comments with the respect they do not deserve. He provides no sources for his claims nor did he dignify your video by actually watching it. He came to spread propaganda!
@@lazydog1484 If these are your sources of information then It's not surprising that you're completely brainwashed.
@@lazydog1484 i think you should read a history book instead of reading novels
awkwardly injecting all the ridiculous trotskyist and anarchist nonsense ruins the video..
Like what?
"Far more dangerous than all the Denikins, Yudeniches, and Kolchaks put together, since we are dealing with a country where the proletariat represents a minority." (Vladimir Lenin)
Is this a statement by someone who represents the majority of Russians?
Was it Schumer, who said farmers were not bright, or something along those lines?
It’s a mistake to call the Soviet Union “socialist”. If anything, it was more like fascism except the state assumed control over the entire country. Stalin’s monstrous dictatorship inflicted unspeakable horrors on the people he ruled and he declined to support revolutions in the west, which only tended to reinforce the class collaboration of the social democrats. Trotsky and Lenin were right. Revolution in the west was essential to the success of their own revolution. When those revolutions failed, the Russian revolution was doomed and Stalin’s dictatorship was a disaster for the cause of Marxism because it became synonymous with Marxism and socialism in the minds of people around the world. Trotsky was right about the Stalinist dictatorship. “Socialism in one country” is an absurd notion and completely opposed to Marx. The Soviet Union was “state capitalism”, not socialism at all, as the working people had no power at all in that system. They were reduced to the state of serfdom and virtual slavery by a totalitarian state.
it didnt have a reserve army of labour, capitalist class, wage labour, capitalist crisis or a market economy yet it was state capitalist. ok lol
I want to begin by saying i haven't finished the video yet however i can say Decidedly The October Revolution was not Socialist Lenin's writings were based on Blanquism a school of thought denounced by Marx because it was Anti Worker and Undemocratic Blanquism just like Leninism later Marxism-Leninism are based around the Concept of a Vanguard Party made up of Socialist Intellectuals who would guide and lead the masses. However this is not Socialism because it is the Workers who rule not a new Intellectual Class and they rule through a Workers Party in a Multiparty Democracy where Trade Unions and the Power of Workers are entrenched in Capitalism before transitioning into Socialism through Worker Cooperatives and Probably some state ownership only in Public Utilities. The USSR and RSFSR before it ended Multiparty Democracy creating a farce where you vote for Party Appointed Candidates and where Unions are under the control of the party and dissent is a crime and all the industries are owned by the State run by Party Officials. Also i think War Communism was wholly unnecessary and it resulted in a Famine killing Millions while some temporary extreme measures should be taken in War like Censoring Press backing your enemies, instituting Martial Law in Areas close to the front while not hindering The rights of people to petition the Government for redress of their grievances, in the case of feeding the army financial incentives for greater food production and or having Soldiers help Farmers would help without starving the Farmers at the end of the day it's supposed to be a Workers Party carrying out the Will of Unions. Also what is the music used in this video i'm liking it so far.
USSR it was a concentration camp - Lenin's idea
One can see that you never opened a book Lenin wrote - there is so much bullshityou are talking about, that my eyes hurt
Marx's own party The Communist League was made of intellectuals and middle class folks.
I would love to see a video on Luxemburg's perspective on the revolution.
The part about the Kulaks and the term being used to abuse poor peasants was not accurate at all and i urge you to read up about that topic more outside of sources which obfuscate the truth
Sure. I got that from EH Carr who is one of the most well regarded historians on the subject, but do you have a better source? I’m always open to learning more. Especially if it challenges bourgeois narratives.
@@redpen1917 I'll get back to you on this! Thanks
@@bradclawsiewhat are you talking about? Got any kind of source for this?
@@redpen1917so I ended up finding a few. There's Anna Louise Strong's work on this subject. As well as Stalins "The Workers State: Lies about Soviet Russia", an interview he gave where he discusses the voluntary nature of the collectivization process and how that was the fundamental policy. Kulaks were outed as a,class enemy by their own traitorous activity, it wasn't some word thrown around for no reason. These people were purposefully sabotaging industry and grain production, and literally killing communists as well as collective farmers. They had a monopoly on farm implements as well as agricultural machines, livestock, and grain stores. Which is how they were able to induce a famine by murdering all the livestock and burning millions of tons of grain(see: Fraud, Famine, and Fascism)
Fine as your video is it carries a lot of inaccuries of obmission
Name one.
Wow. Fantastic. I have a completely new admiration for Lenin and even Stalin and what communism did for the Russian people and for their worldwide influence.
What did communism do for the Russian people?
I've stumbled upon a highly biased take on the Russian Revolution. Kudos on the effort though
What's biased is your understanding of events.
Please go into detail on that claim
The Russian Revolution is one of the most highly politicized events in world history. The bourgeoisie has a near monopoly on the knowledge that is produced in this area. This video is an attempt at a counter-history towards the subject, but is not the only interpretation.
@@redpen1917lavader is far better. Shilling in defense of one of the brutal and corrupt regimes in the history of the world is not going to grant you many favors. At least pretend to disavow ☠️
Communists wave the Red flag with pride, identify themselves as communist, quote Marx and Lenin without shame, and are openly fighting against capitalism.
The USSR had terrible failures but it also had tremendous success. Communists need to learn from the failures and successes. There’s no shame in that, and certainly no need to “disavow” the Soviet legacy…..or the legacy of the French, Chinese, Haitian, Cuban (etc) Revolution for that matter.
Besides, most of the info and perspective of this video is based on EH Carr’s text of the Soviet Union. Not only is he a well-regarded American historian, but is widely seen as the most sober and politically objective historian of the Soviet Union. He wasn’t even a Marxist.
Nice. Looking at your channel it's clear that you're rather pro-commi, yet you still bring up critique throughout the video. Good to not get a too ideology-driven narrative.
Please move to Cuba to Velenzuela maybe China or North Korea and practice the idealogy you love so much.
But all those countries allow for profit commerce and industry so the red ideology is sympathised with there, not actively practised or even pursued..USA sanctions if anything is what they are struggling with.
“Practice the ideology you love so much” 🤪
@@redpen1917 maybe i will it might just save us from pointless money wasting wars recessions and the sixth mass extincion but i wouldn't hold my breath because regardless of the ideology its humans in the drivers seat.
@@redpen1917 oh wow u got me
@@joenunya421 If you're question is serious, it's because I am Canadian and I want to improve the society I live and grew up in.
To state a few facts:
Capitalism and the United States WON the Cold War while the Soviet Union disintegrated under its own weight without a single shot being fired; Socialism is the obsolete ideology that failed miserably in Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Grenada, Vietnam, North Korea, East Germany, Yugoslavia, Libya, Sri Lanka, Chile, Hungary, Nicaragua, Poland, El Salvador, Mozambique, Romania, Honduras, Mongolia, Bolivia, Afghanistan, Angola, China (which has been Capitalist in everything but name since the economic reforms of 1964 by Deng Xiaoping), Russia (of course), and everywhere else it has been tried.
Capitalism continues to be the best and only option while Socialism continues to be the worst, the most failed and most lethal after having caused at least 120 million deaths in less than 90 years which would translate in more than 1 million deaths per year.
BTW, how come reds keep bitching about American "imperialism" but never mention Chinese imperialism in Vietnam or North Korea? Or Soviet imperialism in Afghanistan, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, East Germany or Yugoslavia? Or Cuban imperialism in Angola, Mozambique, Grenada, Nicaragua or Venezuela? Or Yugoslav imperialism in Albania?
And let's finish with the Socialist prayer:
If it's a Socialist atrocity, it never happened
If it happened, it wasn't that bad
If it was that bad, they deserved it
If they didn't deserve it, mistakes might have been made
If mistakes were made, that wasn't real socialism.
Actual facts:
1) Not a single shot fired? Tell that to socialist Cuba, Vietnam, Indonesia, Korea, etc.
2) Socialism has given rise to the 2 fastest growing economies in world history - the Soviet Union and China. Communists were the first in space.
3) If you think a couple million deaths from famine is a failure of socialism, you have no idea what kind of barbarism socialist countries have historically emerged from.
4) Check out “Blackshirts and Reds” by Micheal Parenti for more history on the subject.
@@redpen1917
1) I said the Soviet Union fell without a single shot, what the hell does the 1960s Vietnam have to do with the fall of the Soviet Union?
2) Like I said, China hasn't been socialist except in name when they adopted Capitalism under the euphemism or "socialism with Chinese features" because they saw their country under socialism was dead broke.
3) And?
4) Nah (I don't waste my time studying obsolete evil ideologies)
5) Funny how you were unable to debunk the vast majority of my claims and the 4 you tried you failed.
6) If you want to learn more about ACTUAL socialism visit Venezuela by Hugo Chavez or North Korea by the Kim hereditary dynasty (in fact I WOULD DARE YOU to go live to any of the handful of "socialist utopias" that still remain).
@@charlesferdinand422 Most of your claims are just plain stupid or incorrect. Many of the countries you mentioned were quite literally invaded by the USA or fighting wars of sucessful national liberation led by communists. Your point at 5 is humorous as you didn't even know when Deng's reform was implemented, claims deaths by communism was 120 million despite no historical evidence with the closest estimate given by the black book or communism was 100 million( where did the 20 extra came from) which itself included mortalities caused with conflict with capitalist nations or outright fabrications. Anyway your clearly brainwashed, he quite literally sent you a book that goes through many of the claims you mentioned in detail with historical overview of socialism and you dismissed it. Clearly, you were not here for discussion but to spread propaganda.
@@charlesferdinand422 Also your first point still remains incorrect as 1993 constitutional crisis proves that wrong, the multiple pro soviet protest and the massive economic and social crises that happened during the transition from socialism to capitalism in Russia. Again your claims are farfetched or just propaganda like cuban "imperialism" as if angolans were so stellar about occupation by the SADF (apartheid armed forces) and UNITA. Like seriously Cuban imperialism in Grenada! America invaded Grenada, the most cuban involvement was miltary advisors...c'mon this is just brainwashed thinking. Also do you realize how stupid it is to complain about reds not complaining about soviet imperialism when multiple sections of communists do that. You mentioned yugoslav imperialism in albania, you do realize that Albania was a socialist country headed by Enver Hoxha who complained exactly about that with Mao which ideological sections agreed that Yugoslavia was imperialist, literally any communist who believes in Juche (North korean socialist ideology) accuses Yugoslavia as imperialist for supporting the UN invasion of the DPRK. How uneducated are you?!
@@charlesferdinand422 Honestly the more I look closely on your comments the more idiotic and wrong they are.
Fantastic video, i have subscribed.
This is Terrorist channel, - he killed millions of people.
This channel is an absolute joke.
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Forgot to mention the slave labour and millions of murders.
Your “slave labour” comment is completely inaccurate so i wont respond to that nonsense.
The “Murder” you are referring to occurred and was widespread. Thinkers I greatly admire were killed by fellow comrades, and it was nothing short of a horrific tragedy for many Communists. However, most of the people who were killed were not everyday workers, they were the political elite and in a power struggle from above. Everyday people were fine, except in cases of war and famine.
Millions of people were not “murdered” but approximately 250,000 were killed under Stalin.
The reason these murders offend the West is because Stalin killed people in the powerful class. In the west we call that “murder” while slaughtering the poor in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. and later calling it a tragedy.
We are told to fear and hate Stalin because our capitalist exploiters fear and hate him. He used his power to wage war against capitalism and imperialism and had huge support. For this, the west will never forgive him or Russia.
@@redpen1917 More than 250,000 people died digging Stalin’s stupid canal. The archives have been opened, Solzhenitsyn was right. He was a better man than you and I put together. That you can talk about the Soviet Union and not talk about the Gulags or the gangs of comrades that made sure the Ukrainians didn’t have any food. There is a death order signed by Stalin to shoot 6 Ukrainian teenagers for picking up loose pieces of grain in the fields, at night, after the main crop had been harvested, and shipped away. I used to think like you do. Wake the fuck up.
Wow, I didn't expect you to apologize for wholesale stupidity on the part of collectivist and central planners.@@redpen1917
@@redpen1917Excellent comment
@@redpen1917holodomor denier
What a crock. Stalin was as bad, if not worse than Hitler.
Yeah Nazis certainly think so.
Where were Soviet gas chambers- final solution? Ethnic massacres? Stalin attacked @dissident » Soviets finir alleged
cause (actions- doing), Hitler attacked some for this reason, but e also attacked others simply for
being who they born.
Stalin fue un GIGANTE de su tiempo. Iósif Stalin vivió en una época histórica, en donde el mundo requería de liderazgos fuertes. Así que tuvo que ser un dirigente enérgico. Severo. ¡Imponente! O, de otro modo, la “Madre Rusia” hubiera desaparecido del mapa. Stalin fue lo que tenía qué ser: Un Gran Líder. Un Gran Estadista. Stalin heredó un país yermo, rural, preterido, analfabeta, hambriento, supersticioso, deprimido, carente de todo y, para colmo, delirantemente desamparado. Rusia era entonces, un país de “Siervos” (Esclavos), y Stalin lo convirtió en una súper potencia industrializada y poderosa, que puso a temblar al mundo. Rusia estaba atrasada en 100 años con respecto a Occidente y, superadas las precariedades y todas las devastaciones que causó la Guerra, él, Stalin, el “Fundador de la URSS”, puso en marcha el primer Programa Aero-Espacial del mundo. Stalin recibió una Rusia que estuvo en guerra casi 30 años. (Empezando con la humillante derrota frente al Imperio de Japón, 1904-1905. Revolución Rusa, 1905. WWI, 1914-1918. Revolución Bolchevique 1917-1922. Guerra Civil contra los “Rusos Blancos”, 1922-1927. WWII 1940-1945… Más la Pandemia de la mal llamada “Fiebre Española”, en 1918-1920. Después llegó el brote de la “Peste Bubónica” en 1926. ---En 1932-33, Stalin implementó una campaña general de vacunación contra la viruela, la cual propuso en 1936, que fuese una campaña mundial. La viruela se erradicó en 1980--. Y, más el “Crack Financiero de Wall Street”, de 1929-1937). O sea que, Stalin, asumió el poder de un país golpeado por las guerras, enfermo por la Pandemia y, económicamente quebrado por la crisis mundial. Estas calamidades dejaron una Rusia desposeída y miserable. Stalin la rescató imponiendo disciplina y trabajo. Ni antes ni hoy, nadie en el mundo puso en duda su ENORME LIDERAZGO. Stalin fue genial; magnífico, cultísimo y astuto. Fue un Titán con mano de hierro. Amado por su pueblo y temido por sus enemigos. Hace más de 70 años que Stalin murió y, la Propaganda Occidental, no afloja en denostarlo. ¿Con qué propósito? ¿Cuál sería su utilidad ahora? [*Y, acá, va un dato que dimensiona la grandeza de Stalin. Joseph Stalin, fue nominado DOS veces al Premio Nobel de la Paz (en 1945 y 1948), con el apoyo de múltiples instituciones universitarias de Reino Unido, Francia, Italia, Suiza, Bélgica, y Grecia. Esas nominaciones fueron tomadas en serio por el Comité en Oslo. A él se le acabó su tiempo. Stalin murió en 1953, sin recibir nada, pero sí, todo el reconocimiento de su propio pueblo]. .
Hitler preached an ideology of one race superior to others which should gain room (Lebensraum) for itself (and possibly exterminate the others).
What Nazi Germany did throughout europe and other parts of the world are unspeakable crimes.
Under Stalin many crimes were committed, but his motives and view of humanity were far above the likes of Hitler, Mussolini and the japanese military commanders (not naming Hirohito since he was not really the perpetrator of the war).
And as the documentary says, if soviet Russia wouldn't have been there to stand against Nazi Germany, they would have swept through asia, and then have concentrated their energies on west (UK) and africa again. The western re-invasion (D-Day, battles in middle-east and north-africa) were facilitated by germany putting much of their energy eastward, and not getting access to the caucasian oil-fields.
Lenin and Trotsky never worked a day in their lives
The Russian Revolution required lots of work by both men.
The "Jewish Revolution", there, I fixed your title
Nice one edgelord. Don't cut yourself on all that edge.
The truth hurts doesnt it, whatever happened to Lev Bronstein anyways?
@@Headbanger9000 Trotsky was a Jew, why did the revolution pick him off?
Pardon the pun.
100% spot on.
Who cares if it was jews or not who did the revolution? Third Reich maybe?
Propaganda
If you’ve been fed a heavy diet if anticommunism your whole life then yes, this probably looks like propaganda rather than historical fact.
@@redpen1917 Watch Noam Chomsky for his analysis of Marx versus Lenin. It was never a true Marxist socialist uprising. Lenin was an opportunist as most dictatorships are.
@@chryslercartography9024 LMFAO
@@redpen1917Keep laughing. You're the Joker from Batman? Lenin and the Bolsheviks killed millions of innocent Christian peasants as well as others. Look it up.
@@chryslercartography9024yankees killed nobody at all😅😅.
Stupid comment.
A true lesson in why to not vote for socialism. It only leads to misery and death.
Fuck communism! Great documentary
This is literally a communist channel, but maybe now you can see that they can admit the tremendous mistakes made and don’t try to whitewash it
Tsar Nicholas II was a weak man but why did they have to kill his entire family?
Does the death of an aristocratic family weigh heavier on your judgement than the countless millions of peasant children who starved to death under the Tsar?
Because any surviving member could have a claim to the thrown and could cause another uprising
@redpen1917 exactly that's never mentioned you just see crocodile tears over these people who enslaved and killed the population while they had feasts and parties daily