My First Experience with the Orthodox Church
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Email me if you are in South Georgia or North Florida and would be interested in attending Orthodox services in Valdosta, GA or another town in north Florida: luke@lukesmith.xyz
I'll be talking about my experience more in livestreams or other videos. TL;DR is not to be "nervous" about visiting an Orthodox church near you since you are decidedly not the focus.
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I'm Muslim but I'd show up to orthodox church services. I like church!
Stalin wouldn't have allowed it to return unless it was run by the KGB, so that in particular is highly suspicious
Not all Orthodox Churches are Russian.
@@charlesc.9012 Read up on the history of ROCOR. The Russian church literally split itself after the revolution so that it could flee persecution from the Bolsheviks and survive outside of Russia.
@@phonypony6637 Churches today are actually quite compromised, so it actually takes a lot of expertise to tell. When communists enter a new field, they seek to take control of education and religion in civilian life, there fore it is one of the things that made it into Agenda: Grinding America Down
Distro hopping IRL
religions are just irl distros
Strange how God arranges these things, I was someone who was already catechized into the Orthodox Church, interested in computers, free software, and linguistics. I find this channel right around the time all these interests start to crop up. Now Luke has started getting into Orthodoxy, very blessed
Several of the people followed for years have converted. Hank Hannegraf, Roosh, and some others.
Wow we're going through the exact same thing
Same here. Only I’ve gone to the Catholic Church. All respect to those seeking truth in God though. It’s important.
Yess Christian programmers FTW
Oh jeez. I'm studying Russian and have started getting interested in tech, privacy, and orthodoxy.
What is this ?
As a Greek Orthodox Christian, I feel proud when I hear people from 'The West' describing Orthodoxy. I always had in mind that Orthodox Christianity was confined to Eastern Mediterranean and Eastern Europe. Best wishes to everyone!
Based
as a Serb Orthodox Christian, i fully agree
@@stewki Moj brat. Sa verom u boga. ❤️
There are converts exploding all over the world to our one true Church. I've seen it, from literally every race and background you can think of and more. We need to pray and spread the faith! The Internet is doing wonders for the truth.
As Syrian Orthodox our SOYO gets rocked by GOYO basketball.
I went to an Orthodox church for the first time two weeks ago. I didn't know anybody, but the people there were genuinely friendly and welcoming,. Complete strangers helped guide me during the service. I didn't go there to make friends, but that already seems to be happening. It's a relatively small church but the liturgy is beautiful. I went back this Sunday, and plan on attending every week from now on.
Christ has risen! I am Georgian (We've been orthodox christians since IV century) and it's strangely pleasant to hear this from you, as I appreciate what you put out there (regarding both linux and other stuff).
Truly He is risen! Воистину Воскресе!
Truly He is risen!
obligatory joke about how you're gonna be able to go to the thing that he's organizing since you're in "Georgia"
Cheshmaritad aghsdga!
Αληθώς ο Κύριος!
Luke I recommend you spending a weekend at a monastery, if you're ever able to. It was a life changing experience for me. It helps you to get back to the basics and start appreciating everything around you for what it is.
It's a bit of a strict environment but very rewarding at the end, and I can guarantee you if you come in with an open heart you won't want to leave and go back to the outside world
@@luiscastaneda6674 I'm not from the us or even nearby the us, but usually they've got some kind of online presence or at least a way of contacting them through which you should be able to arrange a date that works for you. Usually you won't be asked for any money for your stay and food you'll pay it with labour instead
My father has a friend monk, who once invited us to his monastery for dinner and wallnuts (they asked us to dispose of the nuts by getting a few kilogrammes from them). You could really feel the chill community spirit of the brotherhood as well as this otherworldly detachment from outside noise. I've heard them talk about a drug addict who had spent her rehab in the monastery and wished to join one and about gardening techniques. That visit made me realise how little we appreciate monasteries work and their role in broader society (Middle Europe being packed with functioning monasteries). I wouldn't mind spending some time in such place after I finish my PhD
I am Catholic and attend traditional mass, however I have the utmost respect for what you are doing - opening a new church is no small feat! I'll be praying for you and your Orthodox brothers and sisters.
Same brother, TLM changed my life. Love my Orthodox brothers too - if one is interested but doesn’t have a nearby Orthodox parish, Byzantine Rite Catholicism could be a viable alternative
@Russia Forever I have also never heard the Catholic Church called Orthodox, not sure what you mean?
Pray for their conversion and the consacration of Russia change this reality
Same here. Let's pray Mr Smith comes HOME to the Holy Catholic Church.
@Russia Forever there are orthodox Catholic churches. I think the church from Lebanon is one. They reunited with the Catholic Church back in the day but they keep their own customs like the priest can marry and stuff like that.
I was just baptized into the Orthodox Church on Lazarus Saturday. I grew up evangelical Christian, but spent some years wandering in my 20s. I never abandoned faith completely, but was disillusioned. In the most millennial way possible I found orthodoxy on RUclips and was converted (in a sense) by Jonathan Pageau.
I had a similar hesitancy with attending an Orthodox Church, avoiding it for a few weeks. But I’m so glad I went, the catechism class had just started so I joined. Orthodox services are truly beautiful worship and I see to be the continuation of Christ’s church.
I am part of the Antiochian church in my city. I feel a large swell coming in to the Orthodox Church and I don’t think it’s hit critical mass yet.
Indeed, He is risen!
Luke, as an orthdox for 30 years, I would recommend you experience different orthdox traditions, namely, try to visit Greek, Antiochian (arabic), Serbian etc churches. Russian myself, I always leaned more towards greek tradition.
can you briefly describe why though ? Russian ones always seemed too grim in their aesthetics to me even as a kid
@@kirillholt2329 Why did I lean to Greek tradition? I probably can, but not briefly :). Not sure what you mean by "grim"
@@barrios160679 what's the key differences between Russian and Greek traditions, in short?
@@luxettenebrae4424 There shouldn't be any significant differences between the two jurisdictions other than the language used in services (at least not in Europe, not sure about America).
Luke should be able to understand Koine Greek, so in that aspect it might be easier for him to attend a Greek Church if the liturgy is in Russia in the Parish he visited. It really depends on a lot of factors.
ROCOR is based in Russia, and traditional Orthodox Christians prefer Russia to the west, so they feel safer in ROCOR, than, say, the Orthodox Church in America, but the differences are really insignificant. There's more variation from Parish to Parish than from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
@@luxettenebrae4424 For me, in short, it's one-letter difference, Greek is more "liberal" (in a good sense), Russian is more "literal" (in a bad sense). Of course, there are nuances.
God bless you, Brother.
We’re winning this, now!
Luke is about to understand how many Orthodox viewers he has. I myself am Romanian and baptized ortho. Love your vids you're doing very good work!
Welcome, brother... You directed me toward the Orthodox Church, thank you so much.
Also, don't discount GOArch, make sure to talk to the Metropolis of Atlanta, I'm sure they would be welcoming as well.
It's funny that you did this video now. There is an Orthodox church I pass everyday and My wife and I just talked recently about how we have no clue what an Orthodox Church is. It actually started with a conversation on what Ortho meant because my daughter had to go to an Orthodontist. For those who don't know, Ortho means to be straight or upright. I'm not sure if the Ortho in Orthodox means the same thing, but it seems to make sense.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
Orthodox essentially means "right belief/teaching" "dox" is related to "doxology". Technically our true church name is Orthodox Catholic Church, because the RC church (which split from us in 1054) also considers itself little o "orthodox". "Catholic" is from Greek katholikos which means universal. We Orthodox teach we have both universal and right belief. Fun fact, Rome used Greek in its Mass for the first couple of centuries and that's no coincidence! Orthodoxy is for everyone
So happy to see this video. I knew the day would come. God bless you Luke. Christ is Risen!
I started attending at a small antiochian parish in south dakota after moving here in 2020, and we are adding about 10 new members every few months. Our parish is small and our priest only comes one weekend or week a month. (he travels 1000s of miles each month to serve parishes in 4 different states). You can have a small parish like this and still hold a service each sunday called "Typica" which doesn't require a priest present. We have finally reached a point where we can afford a larger location and a full time priest later this year.
Whoa! Did you help start this parish? Do you know how it was started?
@@niicopanda I didn't start it, no, it has been a long process of getting it to the point it is at now. I think COVID helped boost the amount of people moving to SD to seek freedom and also the amount of people finding Orthodoxy as well.
That’s so cool! I’ve grown disenchanted with the Baptist tradition over the years and would love to become Orthodox.
Christ is Risen! Watching/reading your stuff helped me "rediscover" Christianity after also quitting academia, learning how glowing entities use computers to be spooky, etc so it is exciting to hear you've found the Church! Just this Pascha I was received into ROCOR. Fear not!
He rises every day, he's the sun.
Bro so cool to hear this I have been going to Orthodox Church now for a little over a year now and I was hooked from day one
It's wild how as soon as I started researching denominations, and was getting into Orthodoxy, this video comes up.
Man, Luke looks so happy. Can't stop smiling. Good for you, thanks for sharing
Glory to God! May these be your first steps of many!
I want to echo what Luke said. I am of German/Polish heritage and I started going to an Antiochian Orthodox church at the end of November last year. I had done a lot of theoretical reading on Orthodoxy, but I was nervous to go to the real thing. The middle easternerns have been some of the most kind, welcoming, and generous people I have met. They explained everything to me, were patient with my questions, and have become a second family to me. I now have no qualms about calling Saint George in Fairlawn Ohio my home. If you have any question, just go and experience it you will not regret it.
Truly He is risen! Congratulations on finding and pursuing the Orthodox faith!
I get this notification for this literally as I randomly decide to listen to one of those 1 hour Orthodox Chant meme videos. I got a chill in my spine. God bless you Luke. Orthodoxy is truth for everyone! Edit: I recommend channels like Father Spyridon, Fr. Tryphon, TrisagionFilms, Bible Illustrated and PatristicNectar check them all out
because slavs are cool?
@@Brutal_Warlord Orthodox church originates from greek tradition, not slav. And honestly, slavs managed to taint their orthodoxy with a lot of pagan traditions (same applies for catholicism in case of western slavs), while greeks are closer to the original version.
@@user-li8wj3lt2l I am descended from the first Christians in Palestine, thus I am Orthodox. Orthodoxy is for everyone, from Germans to Africans to Eskimos and we have saints of all races!
how can polytheism be true ?
That's called the youtube algorithm. Happens quite often if you pay attention.
Seeing the notification for this video gave me a great feeling, I hope this introduces people to Orthodoxy or at the very least sparks interest.
Μπραβο ο φιλος μου ☦
I grew up a Russian orthodox Christian and went to a ROCOR church my whole life. It is definitely a great community that was very open and accepting at any of the churches I’ve visited.
ROCOR is a KGB operation dude 😂
You need to become Greek Orothodoc or maybe Anthiochan
@@Witnessmoo aside from the fact that the KGB hasn't existed since the USSR, maybe instead of believing what you see online, go to a service yourself and see for yourself. I've been to a greek orthodox service before and it isn't that much different.
Could you do a video about your journey into religion? Maybe something to contrast others who have yet to start their own. Glad you're out there making life happen Luke.
Build your own coven of witches or whatever you do, no one's stopping you
disregard the pagan larpers
Been watching you for 1-2years and yes dude, this is the true church!!
came back to thinking God was real in this post-gamergate-post-trump-do-or-die age we live in and researched all the denominations and visited an Orthodox parish a couple years ago and haven't turned back since. Anything I thought was initially foreign or strange was usually straight out of the Bible (golden censors, incense, etc), and it felt like actual true worship of God compared to my protestant childhood. Highly recommend to anyone reading this, pray to God to guide you to Him daily!!!
so happy to see this, God bless you luke.
I have been in ROCOR for 3 years. Fun to see another person I have been following for a long time coming in. It's great.
This video popped up in my notifications while I was watching a livestream of Styxhexenhammer talk about how much he loves abortions. Thanks for the palate cleanser.
Satan Jesus thinks he's edgy.
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That dude is a fraud. They are boosted by algos to get views and subs because they parrot the system rubbish.
Oh no why is le satanist not le heckin christian wholesome?
Orthodoxy is truly a fantastic faith. It's permanence and perseverance in the face of oppression speaks for itself.
im coming from an orthodox country. AMA
It was a fault that the orthodox churches totally subsisted in authority from the state. Now the proportion of religious in places like Russia is in the single digits unfortunately
@@TheThreatenedSwan are you orthodox? catolic statistics arent any better. church and state should never go together if you dont want to end up like a Talibanistan
@@TheThreatenedSwan Hard time believing that, in most eastern european countries the proportion of people identifying as religious is more then 70%.
Even for those that don't actively practice orthodoxy, it still means enough for them that they still go to easter mass and call themselves orthodox if someone asks them if they're religious.
Indeed, He is Risen
Congratulations, and may your efforts be blessed.
We're fortunate enough to have an Orthodox church less than five miles from home. We're in the Savannah, GA area.
Christ is risen!
I'm currently a catechumen. God bless you in your journey.
I literally just subbed you within the last 3 minutes and I'm Greek Orthodox so this video makes me happy ☦❤
FINALLY YOU DID
Me and my friends also want to make an orthodox church where we live
We'll probably buy an old catholic building
We`re lucky in Quebec because there are lots of those
God bless you
I whish you the best of luck
You familiar with Jonathan Pageau?
@@Theodore_Pugin Yes I actually went to vespers in someone's basement with him.
It was funny I said to my friends that I shook hands with a celebrity
Glory to God! I am glad you visited an orthodox church.
I’m glad you have had this wonderful experience! I’m coming up on 2 years since converting to Orthodoxy, and it’s the best decision I’ve ever made!
If to leave religious issues, Orthodox Church is amazing by its conservatism. Thereby it is actually a live museum where nothing has been changing for centuries - neither prayers, nor traditions, nor rites. And even insignificant at first sight attempts to change something lead to serious confrontations.
Thus, there are many that we can see in Orthodox Church are the same as they were many centuries ago. Here are some examples.
Smoking incense is an ancient habit to meet guests - the priest first welcome the persons on the icons (which are invisible present on the service), then the parishioners.
The way of drinking wine is ancient too - by adding a little wine to warm water (wine was not drunk concentrated in the past, usually).
But yes, Church authorities in now days, like in the time of Christ, is a standalone and a very hard to discuss theme.
I hope Luck’s viewers can understand my English. Good luck for everyone!
Your English was good enough to follow, thank you for your insights.
@@Jaguwarps, I‘m very glad to hear it. I can write technical texts but philosophic issues is a non-trivial challenge for me. I’m not even sure about the words I used.
Because it's a dead religion, a political instrument. Orthodox countries are backward compared to Catholic and Protestant ones.
Truly He is Risen! I just uploaded a video clip from your livestream about you talking about your faith. I am very glad to hear that you are interested in Orthodoxy and have attended a liturgy. I would like to recommend you some great online resources such as Patristic Nectar, Fr Josiah Trenham, Patristic Faith, Fr Seraphim Rose, Fr Spyrodon just to name a few. Did you like WV? I always wanted to visit that state. I will share this video with my Orthodox friends in Florida. God bless you, Luke. ☦️🕯️🕊️
I'll second Fr. Seraphim Rose, as I just read his book "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future". I found this such a compelling read that I sent a copy to a friend who's more ecumenical than not, and this worries me.
Wow, I just started watching your videos recently, and I am happily surprised that you are coming to the Orthodox Church. Welcome!
Just to think I was watching all those livestreams where subs introduced luke to orthodoxy makes me happy
Bless upon you, pal. Long healthy years and crystal mind & heart in peace
Your accidentally arrived orthodoxy brother from Russia ☦ 🇺🇸 🤝🇷🇺
@@Katze400 no idea who's orthdoxy wicked mongol realm and why it is killing ukrainians now.
But I assume you just dirty-talks about Russia-Ukraine conflict(as for me which is another Civil War and national tragedy) in retarded baiting gormless way with humiliating epithets about Russia and Russian people at all. Normal russians, and of course orthodoxy ones, are against a fratricidal meaningless war
Russia literally showed how bullshit orthodox religion is
It's funny, now that my son has been born I've been looking for a good church home for my family and have settled in the same opinion that an Orthodox church would be my best bet. The biggest problem is the closest one is over an hour away, but I think I might have to just make the drive. I think this might be a sign I need to go visit and see for myself.
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like a great experience.
I currently attend a very small traditional Baptist Church. No flashy worship team, just an Organ and our Hymnals. With how many "progressive" churches there are here in Massachusetts, having a traditional place of worship is refreshing.
I'm Orthodox and I'm happy for all the Christians who don't lose their faith.
As someone who grew up in Russian Orthodoxy and was an altar boy. First of all, you put a lot of my experiences and understandings in words way better than I could, thank you.
@@folksurvival None, I was busy chasing some choir girls though =)
Christ is Risen! I'm so grateful for your visit. I hope you can make it back before long. Best wishes in helping bring Orthodoxy to where you live!
I really enjoy this video. I've been going to an orthodox church since January. It's been so good to me. I remember hearing that the church is a hospital, and truly it is a hospital.
I felt awkward at times, because it was full of Greeks and I felt like, well, what am I doing here? I'm not Greek.
But that's not the correct thought process at all. Like Luke said, it's not about you. And it being so Greek is a testimony of how well the Greeks have guarded this heritage (as have the Russians, Antiochians etc). So if you go, don't worry about it being "ethnic" or anything of the like. Just go. It's your home too.
Br ou pt?
@@vlad.the.impaler. br. Carioca.
@@irreadings não sabia que havia Ortodoxos no Brasil. Mas é bom saber que os irmãos do brasil têm a opção
I started going to my local Orthodox church January second of this year, wish I'd started going sooner. It's OCA (Antiochian) and growing like wildfire: they had to start holding services in their community hall since they've grown so much in the last two years, a new building is under construction. Amazing to meet so many people (and now see this video) with similar stories to my own, there's really something going on right now to draw people from the typical American Protestant or Roman Catholic background to discover and embrace this third option.
OCA and Antiochian are two different Orthodox jurisdictions (that are under different Bishops). IOW, the parish you visited would be one or the other. Both jurisdictions tend to have a lot of converts and are welcoming to inquirers and visitors.
Christ is Risen!
You were describing St. Mary of Egypt in Roswell GA. Anyone and everyone should come visit our parish here - it is a truly beautiful and blessed monastery.
Thank you for the video Luke, hope to help you build that parish down there in Valdosta!
I was protestant for 35 years. I went to an Orthodox church for the first time about 10 years ago. I am 45. It blew my mind.
Subdeacon Chris. Praise God!
What a strange synchronicity. I've always respected my orthodox religion but only on monday at the behest of my girlfriend did I decide to commit time and effort to visit a few monasteries. Not as a tourist but as a worshipper. It left such an impression on me I'm thinking of visiting the service on Sunday. I've never attended a service in my life. Really timely video.
I am happy for you, brother.
I was just down at St. Mary's for their feast day on the 10th of April. Very packed service and the bishop came down.
Truly he is risen!
Great insight, Luke. Greetings from an Orthodox Bulgarian ☦︎
Б. Б. ти ли си 8)
@@ivailopetrov2827 Не :D
I converted to Catholicism after being raised Baptist. I attend an FSSP which celebrates the TLM liturgy. I had the same reaction you did, it was amazing to see how God centered it was. I was feeling a bit self-conscious about not knowing what to do until I realized no one is paying attention to you at all.
Its an amazing time for prayer. Love the ortho bros. Praying for you brother!
My family of six was received into the Orthodox Church during Pascha this year. We drive a couple of hours to go to Liturgy. I hope to start a mission in my town too
I live in eastern Slovakia where ends western catholic influence and orthodoxy begins. Here we have catholic, orthodox and even greek catholic churches. I used to visit all 3 kinds but i have found orthodox ceremonies most interesting.
Could you explain to me a bit about the Greek Catholic Church? Is it more leaning towards Orthodoxy or Catholicism?
@@primalpenguin The ceremony is in greek style but they are under Catholic church and Pope. The priests can also have wife. Basically it is blend of orthodoxy and catholism.
@@matejelias6601 Kind of like ecumenism? Those from the latin rite should fold to the eastern one, not the other way around imho.
I still *cringe* at the filioque concept lol.
@@Ripper935 Kind of it's quite complicated I am not an expert, but i would say that it's leaning more towards Catholicism
@@primalpenguin In theory, Greek Catholic is Orthodox doctrine but they recognize the Pope of Rome. It was born in Ukraine as a reaction to Moscow gaining control over the Kiev Metropolis. Any port in a storm.
There is no "blending" of doctrine. Purely political in a church sense.
When the Russia Ukraine war ends, there will be a decision for the "thinkers" in Greek Catholic church:
There is a canonical Orthodox church self-governing (autocephalous) in Ukraine since 2018, so there is no reason for being under the Pope. It will be easy for the faithful to make the switch. Touchier for the priests + and hierarchs +++.
FYI: The Ukrainian Greek Catholic "Patriarch" and the head of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine - Metropolitan of Kiev - are on good terms. Good times.
I didn’t really get the chance to talk with you, but it was great to have you at our parish nonetheless! Hopefully you can get a mission going down there.
Good to see you moving in this direction Luke.
I went to an Orthodox church a couple of times a few months ago. Pretty cool people
I feel like Orthodoxy is becoming something of a hot-ticket item for disenfranchised Christians. As someone who grew up in it I'm of 2 minds: on one hand its nice to see people finally rediscovering this ancient and overlooked faith, on the other I can't help but feel a lot of new converts are simply catholics/Protastants who've grown tired of their own religion doctrine/scandals and are reaching for something they feel is "purer" and almost exoticizing things in a way that has me wondering if they're going to be a bit disappointed when they find out about all of the earthly ills and scruples our Tradition is subject to, which will cause them to eventially revert back to their own mother-denominations they feel familier in.
Its actually sort of the same thing I see when white guys convert to Islam if you feel me.
It's the good old 'grass is always greener on the other side' thing. Although I respect Orthodoxy, it just feels more traditional because the national barriers and then the iron curtain indirectly protected them from liberalism. I don't say this to enter a food fight over who has more problems, I'm Catholic and I'm actually tired of this childish tendency. It's just to point out that converts who think they will be protected from the world insanity there, will sadly be shocked. Of course, like most denominations, you can sometimes just find a parish where people respect tradition and feel like you escaped the world's problems.
"...when they find out about all of the earthly ills and scruples our Tradition is subject to...." what does that mean? What do you see? Do you see 'prosperity Christianity' in Orthodoxy? Do you see flavor of the week liturgics in the Orthodox Church?
Your bigger point I take from that that some folks are unsettled and won't stick. Many Orthodox priests want potential converts to study Orthodoxy, so they come in eyes open. As a cradle Orthodox, I don't want other confessions' problems.
I've been on my own conversion journey from Protestantism to Orthodoxy as well, Luke. A lot of people I've spoken to have. Orthodoxy is going through a revival it seems.
Orthodoxy is mostly a political institution. Orthodox countries are the most backward and tribalistic countries in the christian world.
While the western churches try to "modernise" and water down to appeal to a broader public, the people yearn for tradition and spirituality. Many flee to eastern Religions like Buddhism, but those who want to be faithful Christians find the Orthodox church instead. Well that's my theory at least.
Interesting. Raised Catholic and revisited it as an adult but I struggle with papal infallibility and soft stances on issues (as well as outright lies) in my catechesis.
I live in St Pete FL which is pretty far, I'll start by checking out a local church down the street. Something about it has been calling to me.
I would definitely go if it is so close too!
Papal infallibility refers when he speaks Ex Cathedra in morals and faith, when he exposes an official position, as far I know it is only in this situation. Interviews and talks on the media do not count as that. (I can be wrong, but I think is it)
@@neteinfo9111 that's exactly it, this is why Popes rarely speak ex cathedra
The Latin church proclaims that two conditions must exist for infallibility: 1) the pope must be speaking in matters of faith and morals, and 2) he must be speaking ex cathedra--"from the throne" (that is, from the throne of Peter, which means he must be speaking officially). When these two conditions are present, he's supposedly infallible. However, the Latin church itself provides a long list of popes who have put forth FALSEHOOD when speaking officially in matters of faith and morals. Thus, the very church that AFFIRMS this false doctrine DENIES it. Out of one side of its mouth the Latin church says this doctrine is true, and out of the other side of its mouth the Latin church says this doctrine is FALSE! There's no end to falsehoods like this one in the Latin church as it was completely SEVERED from Christ's continuing Church in 1054 A.D. I left that schismatic and heretical fake imitation church for the most ancient Church in Christendom, the Orthodox Church, and there's no falsehood in it at all.
Truly He is Risen!
Hey Luke, as a protestant very interested in Orthodoxy, I'd love to hear some more discussion regarding it.
OMG, I just found this now. I am so happy for you!
That was my first experience in Catholic mass coming from a protestant background. I actually went in by myself and talked to the priest there. It wasn't man centered at all.
I can understand your change, I will stay to the TLM and the Catholic Church.
Didn't Francis effectively ban TLM last year?
@@LukeSmithxyz Afaik it's up to the local bishop to decide if it is needed in a given place
@@LukeSmithxyz There is the SSPX, the SSPV. Marian Corp, the SSPX resistance. The hammer it seems is however starting to come down on the groups and organizations who are within the Catholic church and offer the TLM like priestly fraternity of st. Peter. So in a few sentences hahaha no!
@@LukeSmithxyz I tried to share the locations and youtube removed my comment, but anyways Sedevacantism practices traditional Catholicism and only does Latin Mass. They believe Francis is not a valid pope because the church cannot teach heresy.
@@LukeSmithxyz depends on the bishop. There are lots of misunderstandings about this -and by extension the Papacy (infallibility) and the binding force of Tradition. The Pope cannot and will never actually extinguish the Roman Rite.
I live in FL and i go to a diocesan TLM parish (Tampa). I highly recommend you get Fr. Ripperger’s book “The Binding Force of Tradition” which is a short but key read. Happy Pascha. God bless you.
Best thing I ever did was checking out Eastern Orthodoxy. Now it's years after my husband, myself and our two children converted. It's changed us for the better, and I really believe it the real truth and the best way to worship God.
On the length of services, I have people think it's weird and just too much... But when I am there I never feel like it is too long. It's so beautiful and to see that love we have for God and each other. (most churches there's a feeling of being a true family.). It's more like you don't want to leave, it's like paradise.
Αληθώς ανέστη! Truly He is risen!
From my experience of serving at orthodox monastery - be humble, to let God speak to you.
Literally, they teach nothing more.. they trust in God to do the work on you. They just advice to be humble and that is it.
Very good impression is they - lead by example, and the faith is real strong in that life there.
Not an Orthodox myself, but hey glad you find light in Christ.
Luke Smith finally ascends into the divine Georgian orthodox levels of Luka Mchedlidze.
Speaking in linguistic terms: Ortho-Dox stands for Right/Proper Praise/Glory of God (in Greek). As a Greek, leaving in Greece and in the US (Kentucky) in the past, I can tell you that the Greek Orthodox is most easy going religion and in my humble opinion the ultimate road to reach God. It was fully adopted by the ancient Greek philosophers and it has many things in common with ancient Greek history and mostly.. language. Welcome to Greece, anytime. Love your channel... Even I am using a Windows machine for work compatibility purposes
It didn't even exist when Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, etc were around. What are you on about?
Im at my vagie job and cant whach the video but I am so happy that you found the true Christian church best of luck to you
I knew this was coming. Good shit.
Luke, all I gotta say is you have an open mind and hopefully you gain all that is valuable from this path.
i know what you mean at around 5-6 minutes. i've experienced this God-centeredness at catholic masses (both more reverent NO & Tridentine) and Eastern Catholic divine liturgies. the beauty that is lost in most masses nowadays is enormous
Hristos a înviat!
Adevarat a inviat!
Happy Easter Luke. I know you have your disagreements with the Catholic Church but I was baptized and confirmed at the Easter Vigil Mass. I just want to thank you for your writings, boomer rants, and livestreams drawing me back from degeneracy and finally committing to Christ.
It's a good first step, but hopefully you come to recognize the pagan elements.
Christ is the King
Luke, based on your discussions of Orthodoxy and various other RUclipsrs, as well as listening to Coptic/Orthodox hymns in soundcloud, I went to an OCA church in my hometown. It was incredible.
The people were really cool, and welcoming. Our Parish is growing so much that they are building a bigger building to house everyone. ( I wonder if it is because of the Jordan Peterson-> Jonathon Pageu youtube pipeline).
We have a weekly Orthodoxy class to learn more about the Faith. What do you think about the “autocephalous” nature of many of the Churches? ( Greek vs Russian vs Armenian vs Romanian vs Ethiopia often not being in Communion with eachother?)
I prepared this for another video. May help if you decide to attend an Orthodox Church. Luke's experience during Holy Week is to witness a series of rich liturgical services. I would not recommend that for most people. Attend a Sunday morning service and build up your understanding gradually. Here's a list of things to expect. Note that most Orthodox churches in the US are a little more formal than Luke's tee shirt. But as he said, do not let a poor wardrobe hold you back, either.
A few points. (Cradle Orthodox here) for a typical Sunday morning service.
Time: The "time" of the Divine Liturgy will be stated on the website or in some other public fashion. There is an earlier service Orthos / Matins - that has to do with preparing the bread (mostly) for the Communion/Liturgy service, and introduces the particular day of the Orthodox calendar. That earlier service will appear to a newcomer as indistinguishable from the start of the Liturgy. It will blend in, but an experienced person will hear and see the familiar start of the Liturgy. So, come a little early and take it in.
Entry: Most Orthodox churches have an entryway called the Narthex (Vestibule) where you can collect yourself before you enter the main part - the Nave. There in the Narthex parishioners can purchase a candle and light a candle at a candle stand with an icon. You won't do that. There will be one or more parishioners - likely parish council members - that will take the money for the candles or donations or "dues", and should welcome newcomers, Orthodox or otherwise. Feel free to introduce yourself. You might be asked to fill out a card with info that the priest at the end of the service might announce to the Faithful.
Pews: For Orthodox churches with pews, the parishioners will sit, then stand, and sit again, over and over, and may kneel. Do what is comfortable to you. I recommend you stand, but feel free not to - but you'll get a better view of things if you do. Probably do not kneel, but rather sit respectfully.
Structure: The Liturgy is broadly divided into the Liturgy of the Word - lead up to include the Gospel reading - and Liturgy of the Faithful - up to and including the Holy Communion. Then a short dismissal service. They all blend together. Depending on your background you may recognize the Nicaean Creed and the Lord's Prayer. These may be recited in two or more languages depending on the parish. As you experience Orthodoxy, you will see that many phrases and verbal images are repeated.
Singing: Most Orthodox hymns will be new to you. Even if a church has a choir, parishioners are free to sing. Most who choose to sing will "sub-sing" for most hymns, letting the choir dominate. There can be exceptions, specially during the pre-"Easter" services - "Easter" is called Pascha in Orthodoxy (and most southern and eastern European countries / Mediterranean basin, even if not predominantly Orthodox) - and at Pascha itself.
Icons: The word means image, but has a deeper meaning to the Faithful. Icons are prayerfully "written" not painted. They are reverenced, and not worshipped. There IS a difference. Observe but do not attempt to kiss an icon - would be meaningless.
Sign of the Cross: The Orthodox frequently cross themselves. Don't do it without instruction. The Orthodox start with head, then torso, right shoulder, and then left shoulder. Fingers is a certain way - not open.
Antidoron: In Greek Orthodox churches and perhaps others, the priest will hand out blessed bread to parishioners as the come up after the service. You may take this as you wish. You are not committing yourself in any way. The bread is called "antidoron", from anti - instead of, and doron - the gifts. It is bread that was NOT used for the Communion bread. The bread is simply made and is quite tasty for what it is. If you decline, simply say you are a visitor learning about Orthodoxy. No harm, no foul.
Cross kissing: Instead of antidoron, some Orthodox churches' priests will have a large hand cross which the parishioners will come up and kiss / reverence. Don't do that - an empty gesture without background. Just follow folks out to where they exit.
Coffee/reception: Most Orthodox churches will have a coffee hour after the services. Most do NOT have a meal. They likely have alternatives to coffee. These are usually free. Some might have pastries or dessert for sale.
Welcoming: Most Orthodox churches have a formal means to welcome visitors. Especially in metropolitan areas in the US. If you are not greeted, it is likely you who does not want to be welcomed. Granted, there are exceptions. If you truly do not feel welcome, then seek another experience. It is not the norm.
Other services: In conjunction with the Divine Liturgy, there may be other smaller services added in / appended. Usually these are totally separated after the dismissal, but some may be integrated in, especially if a Bishop is present.
The two most common are a memorial service for a departed Faithful - Orthodoxy prays for the departed. Here there may be a tray of (dry) boiled wheat that has been decorated with powdered sugar, almonds, currants, and parsley - that symbolizes the soul of the departed. This is distributed to the attendees.
The other common service - less so - is a thanksgiving service called the Artoklasia (breaking of bread) - Five Loaves. Special wheat loaves are baked, are blessed in a short service then cut and distributed to the attendees.
Relax and let it come to you, but be open.
I would absolutely recommend you read the works of Father Seraphim Rose him being a western convert and coming from a background of Californian academia he is one of the best writers in showing how the western mindset contrasts with the Patrisitic mindset
luke i was just thinking about converting earlier great timing
Church has taught me how to truly interact with your community within the church and outside around it. The world doesn't do a good job teaching this and definitely confuses the true value of the interaction and giving sacrificially. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Jesus can change your life. You learn this through people's testimonials and reading the bible. We are all sinners who need a savior and Jesus is the only way to be saved.
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30
You know if there's something wrong in your life or is there is a mountain you just can't seem to get over. And then there's the question of what is meaning of life? What's really the point of us being here? It's seems pretty meaningless considering that we live on a mote of dust floating in space time that Is so uncomprehnesably big that no human mind could ever understand it. What happens when it all comes to an end? Jesus is the answer to it all. Come to the God who loves you, created you and created this massive universe just for us because he loved us so much. He made a way for you to be saved through his son Jesus christ. Pray this sinners prayer.
Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior.
Jesus will come into your life and your walk with Christ will begin wherever you are. He is there for you If you fall and is not mad at you. He loves you. Go and tell someone now that Jesus is your lord and savior.
The Lord be with you and with you. I do subscribe to the ways of the Latin Rite and you helped me re-affirm my faith in the Lord. Thank you, Luke.
I am tempted to visit, but my parents wouldn't let me because they have a bad history with churches. Still cool to see Orthodox churches in rural Georgia!
Read the Gospels then
I don't know your parents, but as an atheist, I can tell you a lot of us don't have issues with good people that follow Christ, Mohammed, Buddha or any other spiritual teacher.
We have issues with religion as an institution. That's a summation.
The point of my comment isn't to discuss anti theism, but rather to encourage you to follow your path and not let others infringe on your "religious" freedom.
This situation is similar to what many atheists experience and it usually takes time for others to accept and respect yourself.
If you do fear for your safety, then don't come out of the closet.
If not, be patient. In the end you will gain more insight into whether people around you really do care, but don't get discouraged by initial reactions. It might take even a year or two for others to accept.
Your parents might even teach you how to spot a satan hiding behind an altar, though their past experience might make them too cautious.
Be open to their thoughts, but don't let their voice replace your own inside your head.
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Greetings from the orthodox Montenegro
When you have time, visit the Greek Orthodox church of Saint Nikolas in Tarpon Springs, Florida… one of the largest Orthodox community in your area…
Christ is risen! He is truly risen! Funnily, I am not surprised you would eventually come to Holy Orthodoxy. I hope you will find a good spiritual father and that your catechumenate will be blessed! Many years to you!
I had a similar experience with a Byzantine Catholic Church. Everyone was very kind & welcoming & I brought Beef Stew for the Pascha potluck.
There is an Orthodox Church here in Gainesville. I've been thinking about visiting for a long time, and your video has answered a lot of my questions. I want to go one of these days!
Really surprised! I’ve just noticed the title and haven’t seen the video yet but being a Russian regular viewer of this channel I could not resist commenting. Interesting… it’s much more difficult than Unix and Vim.
Truly He is risen! ❤️
I went to an Orthodox church for the first time a few weeks ago and it was amazing! The deacons were wearing their babies, the priest stopped what he was doing to talk to me. They all invited me to coffee hour. The Liturgy was sung beautifully! I loved it. I don't have an EO church where I live though. I felt bad because I sat the whole time but I was sick with an infection in my leg and was hurting. I couldn't stay for coffee 🥺
They don't have one where I live. The nearest Orthodox Church is about 300 miles away in Kansas City
Are you able to email the nearest ortho priest about this? He will help you I promise