I rewatch Rhoda for the simpler, safe and loved times, when I was a teen home still at home with my parents and siblings. Watched: Maude, MTM, Phyllis, Starsky and Hutch, Columbo, McLeod, MacMillan and Wife, The Carol Burett Show, Red Skelton, etc. Wonderful times.
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Several people have commented that they watch this show when they need a dose of the 1970s. I watched this show when new, I was a teenager during all its seasons. I like the show, but there were many other good sitcoms made during the 1970s having that decade's culture...Bob Newhart Show, MTM Show, Barney Miller, Alice, All in the Family, and Three's Company, to name a few. Those shows had the fashions and the issues of that era.
Joe offers Rhoda money for her business and she declines because she says that she promised herself that she would never ask him for the money if she needed it. But earlier this season she gave him 2 thousand dollars and her parents gave Joe 7 thousand for his business. The way I see it she should get back at least 9 thousand dollars from her husband.
@@NaturalElicia The problem was Joe was arrogant and Rhoda was insecure. She wanted to do it all for herself because she was afraid she wouldn't be able to handle herself on her own if/when Joe inevitably left her. I feel like she also thought that giving him money and not asking for repayment would make him stay because he would "owe" her. That's really pathetic and manipulative on her part. She learned it from her mother. But those tactics are no foundation for a good relationship. Either way, Joe is the one in the wrong because it's been previously established that he's probably cheating on her. He compared her to his ex wife. He makes her feel even more insecure. He's very condescending to her. At the beginning of the 3rd season, he leaves her and keeps stringing her along. He's so smirky and willing to just keep taking and taking and taking from Rhoda. Not just her money, but her love, her body, and her pride. But he's not only good at taking- he's also good at witholding. He witheld approval, love, and affection. He wouldn't touch her for 7 months, yet once he left her, he started using her just for sex! If he doesn't want her then he shouldn't lead her on. He always acts like she's always making a big deal over nothing. But it's not nothing! He made her feel even more insecure than she already was, then he left her and started treating her like a trick! He kept telling her she should trust him and let him take care of her. And as soon as she did, he dumped her and kept stringing her along!! He was always trying to pick fights when she was bending over backward to please him. But he still made her feel not good enough. (Like the time when she ordered pizza and he was pissed because his ex wife was such a good hostess.) And Rhoda never fought with him until he yelled at her that he WANTED her to fight him!! And then when she fought back, he just stood there smirking at her like she was nuts. I hate his smirky, unbothered, nonchalant, gaslighting face.
@@themaggattack You make many good points. Blame the scriptwriters. This too: imo, David Groh was miscast as Joe. He couldn't keep up with Valerie. He didn't have the comedic chops to deliver the lines in a way that lovingly - instead of angrily - responded to Rhoda's antics and insecurities.
@annajacob7981 I remember watching an interview years ago where someone said that they would give him funny lines but he wouldn't be funny. That's part of the reason they got rid of him.
Funny - Lowel is played by the same guy who played Phyllis' brother Ben on Mary Tyler Moore. He hung out with Rhoda, which drove Phyllis mad with worry they would marry until Rhoda told her he was gay - Phyllis was so relieved LOL. And Barbara Sharma (Myrna) played the 'Feeb' on one of my favorite episodes of MTM. She was hilarious as the waitress Mary got fired and then hired at the station out of guilt. The most useless employee ever. I didn't know until recently that Barbara Sharma was a Bob Fosse dancer. Impressive!!
@@TheAmericanGirl1967 Ahhh now I remember, thank you! The name Donnie made me think it was a kid.. but I know now it was that adult actor. Thank goodness Daphne never married him! 😅
I remember the days when a married woman with a successful husband could never get a loan in her name. My mother wanted a credit card in her name, the bank said that legally she did not exist, she was Mrs. Richard.... not Betty....
This was in 1975. There were no cell phones. The loan officer immediately denied Rhoda’s loan application. Brenda didn’t tell him as she was at work. They certainly wouldn’t have told Ida. So how did Joe find out?
I think it's sad that she won't accept help from her husband and she says her business is HERS. When you're married you are supposed to be one with your spouse. It should be THEIR business and THEIR money.
In the 1970s, the idea was two totally different, independent individuals who came together based on sexual attraction (what they called 'love') and stayed together as long as the sexual attraction outweighed the difficulties of dealing with the other separate, individualistic person who had his or her own, separate path through life, not to be impeded or in any way inhibited by the other person's needs, problems, or other 'insecurities' and 'hang-ups.' It was basically roommates with benefits as the notion of marriage. Notice that their wedding vows said, 'As long as we both shall love.' That means, 'Until it becomes too difficult or challenging to be around you and I don't feel romantic and sexually attracted to you like I did at the beginning of our relationship. Then I'm out.' They thought that sexual attraction and excitement was 'love' and that they should keep that 'excitement' in their marriage and make it sexually 'interesting' all the time, or else the marriage would die. Sure: when a roommate becomes too annoying, it will affect the sex and you'll walk away. It's how they remade marriage in the '70s, hence the 50% divorce rate that is still with us. Marriage wasn't for life; it was for pleasure and 'self-fulfillment' and your 'SELF-fulfillment' should never have to take a backseat to the other person's needs. You can't have two essentially selfish people, trying to develop themselves as separate individuals, and also have them focused on becoming unified and 'one' and putting the relationship first, their spouses second, and themselves last. Keep your attitude, Emily, and don't settle for a man who doesn't share it, and you will probably end up with a marriage 'for long as we both shall LIVE' even if you don't feel romantically 'in love' and sexually 'interested' 24/7/365.
18:35 Liam Dunn was a terrific character actor. He had a HOOT of a guest spot on "All in the Family" as Mr. Fairchild from the Benjamin Franklin Mutual insurance agency who finds out that Archie filed a phony claim! Liam was also in a bunch of Mel Brooks films. Sadly, the guy smoked like a chimney and died on the set of one of Brooks films I believe. He was only about 60 years old. But he had so many funny roles.
Rhoda hasn’t been taking two hour lunches or flaking off when her office is busy. Her business is not big enough to handle big accounts so most of her customers are small businesses. Among them are customers who like the man Rhoda spoke to has a prior commitment to his bookie.
Mary Tyler Moore in her first regular tv show character (even before the Dick Van dyke show) was seated at a desk & it was just her legs from the knees down that was only ever seen.
Anyone who watched Rhoda saw the separation come on very quickly. It might make more sense if you factor in the house purchase. The permanence of owning a house might have been the thing that pushed him over. I'm sure the writers thought that.
Years ago, I threw my back out folding towels. The instant it happened my thought was WTF. Was on the coach for the rest of the day, staring at a pile of clean laundry in the laundry basket on the floor. Felt like it was a scene out of a sit com. Hilarious.
That is absolutely disgusting. Why would you say such a thing? Your mother must be embarrassed she raised a vulgar and disgusting son. The people who go to bathhouses should be locked away for mental Illness and depravity
The answering service guy is Robert Moore, who played Phyllis's brother Ben, on the MTM show, for one episode. She was desperate to match up Mary and Ben. Phyllis was petrified that her brother would end up with Rhoda, as they were really enjoying each other's company. Didn't happen, because it turned out that Ben was gay. Ben gay? Really.
Love this show! Rhoda's sarcasm and wit is perfectly played by a great actress. One thing is I get very invested in the characters on my shows and I do hate that Joe leaves after this episode, because their marriage seemed so strong! (the show stayed good, but should've kept joe) I mean, Joes character was completely switched after this episode. He went from a loving caring, gentle, hilarious guy who was SOO in love with Rhoda too a jerk who wanted sex but no relationship. Sad......
I think the writers were responding to the changing times and trying to keep the show topical, but I agree; the series lost its spark once the relationship between Rhoda and Joe inexplicably evaporated.
Kaitlin: About the Joe character and his and Rhoda's "strong" marriage...Have you really seen the earlier episodes?? The Joe character was poorly conceived and badly written from the start and, in my opinion, David Groh was terribly miscast.
Cynthia Lyman: In many interviews over the years, the "Rhoda" producers and writers and Valerie Harper herself made it clear why the Joe character was written off the show, and "trying to stay topical" had absolutely nothing to do with it. I refer you to interviews done for The Academy of Television Arts And Sciences, available on RUclips and on the Academy's own website.
And the "answer man"; Lowell Snyder, was Phyllis' brother Ben on MTM. On the "My Brothers Keeper" episode. The one where Rhoda said, "he's gay..." Famously. He was played by famous actor/director Robert Moore. Who was an actor and a director within the MTM stable.
@@lorimiller4301 Lori, people are allowed to opine. I love Ida on the show, but a real life Ida would drive me nuts. Just because one character is unlikable to some, does not mean they don't or can't enjoy the show.
@@ichigomentos who would watch a Show where they're annoyed by a Character ? I guess I never valued TV that highly. My Dad watches that stupid one that says we built the pyramids in the opening theme. I can't stand that they would lie about that, so I don't watch. Don't like the Sheldon Guy either. So do I aggrivate myself ? Nope. I'm probably the only Kid my age who hasn't seen all the Bradys lol.
Rhoda was totally wrong on not accepting money from Joe because they are married and back in Season 1 when he was struggling with his business he went to her parents for help and even Rhoda offered him money to help him. I didn't understand her logic in this episode.
Of course she can't. She's a feminist. Giving money to a man gives you POWER, and taking from a man makes you 'weak' and powerless. So you see? Women WIN when they won't enter fully into marriage with their husbands. They get 'empowered' to do everything on their own, including failing massively because they have the illusion that they are somehow isolated powerhouses instead of human being who are born into and defined by their relationships. We're all relational; we all need our human relationships; we're in relationship with animals, plants, the weather - NOBODY, not even a feminist, can be isolated and purely in power over his/her life. Rhoda's an idiot because she drank the feminist cool-aid that says that a woman has to do things 'by herself' or she has no worth. Wrong: she has no help, no support, and no real relationships. She becomes inhuman, unnatural, distorted, because there is NO plant, animal or person who is not by nature 'in relationship' and dependent on others.
@@realmaletearsaspatriarchys1351 I may not agree with everything that Figaro Hey! said but doesn't this person have the Right to Express an idea without abusive people like you posting insults? You Are a MORON who hides behind a screen.
This episode is pretty much the same as Episode 16 of Season 1 titled Guess What I Got You For The Holidays. In that one, Joe was the one who was depressed & behind on all his company bills & Rhoda was the one doing well and offering him a loan. Only difference is she gave him $2000 but in this episode all she needed was $1000.
How did Rhoda and Joe's relationship sour so much in only 3-4 months. Next season, they split up. Never could understand the producers getting rid of Groh. The amazing characters of Goodwin and Doyle with their actors portraying them gave the show a krutch but ultimately that error was fatal.
When Joe and Rhoda decided to take a few days off for their marriage, they referred to Myrna and Justin as their 'partners' in business. Now Myrna is an employee who can quit. How can they be so inconsistent within just a few episodes?
My brother calls me old because I love watching old tv 📺 shows like the Mary Tyler Moore show Rhoda 227 the golden girls and designing women Lavern and Shirley mamas family
...TRIVIA: ...The guy (who wants Rhoda's Office) was played by the same Man who played Phyllis' Brother (who Rhoda 'dated', and happened to be Gay), in the MTM Ep, "My Brother's Keeper" ...making Valerie the FIRST PERSON to admit someone was Gay, in TV History....& Rho's 'shady' comment at 2:49, references it.....
I keep skipping through all the episodes that have people barging in on the couple and the unwanted "guests" can't take a hint and leave. Can't find one, so will stop watching this show. Too bad because I am an avid fan of Valerie's.
They should have cast another actress for Myrna because Barbara Sharma is as interesting and enjoyable as a doctor's waiting room. I like everyone else on the series but don't see anything appealing in Sharma at all.
I was not alive yet when this show was on. Listening to the studio audience, it seems they LOVED this show. But since that time, Rhoda has been "not very popular." Was this the public opinion of the show at the time? Like it was one of the best shows on TV? Maybe someone can definitively answer.
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I rewatch Rhoda for the simpler, safe and loved times, when I was a teen home still at home with my parents and siblings. Watched: Maude, MTM, Phyllis, Starsky and Hutch, Columbo, McLeod, MacMillan and Wife, The Carol Burett Show, Red Skelton, etc. Wonderful times.
The good old days ☺
Same. l love McMillan and Wife too! I watched that series again a year ago.
Bonanza was my fave , Perry Mason
Rhoda's mom gave Joe money for his business. Rhoda gave him 2,000 of her own. She should have taken Joe's money or asked her parents.
How does a husband loan money to his wife? They’re married for Pete’s sake! The welfare of her business is for his benefit too.
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Shut up feminist
it's strange to me too
Obviously you are too young to remember the women's struggles of the 60's and 70's for independence and equality.
@aprilove2005 I'm 72. Was married for 10 yrs. Yeah, I remember. But we didn't loan each other money.
"Hey kid, you wanna learn something?" GOD the sarcasm!!! I cant get enough of this show!!!!!
Several people have commented that they watch this show when they need a dose of the 1970s. I watched this show when new, I was a teenager during all its seasons. I like the show, but there were many other good sitcoms made during the 1970s having that decade's culture...Bob Newhart Show, MTM Show, Barney Miller, Alice, All in the Family, and Three's Company, to name a few. Those shows had the fashions and the issues of that era.
WKRP in Cincinnati!
Taxi…..
Good Times, The Jeffersons, and what's happening to also named a few
The Monkees , The Bionic Man and Kung Fu
Benson. Buffalo Bill. Maude.
Joe offers Rhoda money for her business and she declines because she says that she promised herself that she would never ask him for the money if she needed it. But earlier this season she gave him 2 thousand dollars and her parents gave Joe 7 thousand for his business. The way I see it she should get back at least 9 thousand dollars from her husband.
The problem is he's a man. Rhoda was a big feminist and she didn't want to take money from a man even being so her "husband".
@@NaturalElicia
The problem was Joe was arrogant and Rhoda was insecure. She wanted to do it all for herself because she was afraid she wouldn't be able to handle herself on her own if/when Joe inevitably left her.
I feel like she also thought that giving him money and not asking for repayment would make him stay because he would "owe" her.
That's really pathetic and manipulative on her part. She learned it from her mother. But those tactics are no foundation for a good relationship.
Either way, Joe is the one in the wrong because it's been previously established that he's probably cheating on her. He compared her to his ex wife. He makes her feel even more insecure. He's very condescending to her.
At the beginning of the 3rd season, he leaves her and keeps stringing her along.
He's so smirky and willing to just keep taking and taking and taking from Rhoda. Not just her money, but her love, her body, and her pride.
But he's not only good at taking- he's also good at witholding. He witheld approval, love, and affection. He wouldn't touch her for 7 months, yet once he left her, he started using her just for sex! If he doesn't want her then he shouldn't lead her on. He always acts like she's always making a big deal over nothing. But it's not nothing! He made her feel even more insecure than she already was, then he left her and started treating her like a trick! He kept telling her she should trust him and let him take care of her. And as soon as she did, he dumped her and kept stringing her along!!
He was always trying to pick fights when she was bending over backward to please him. But he still made her feel not good enough. (Like the time when she ordered pizza and he was pissed because his ex wife was such a good hostess.) And Rhoda never fought with him until he yelled at her that he WANTED her to fight him!! And then when she fought back, he just stood there smirking at her like she was nuts.
I hate his smirky, unbothered, nonchalant, gaslighting face.
@@themaggattack You make many good points. Blame the scriptwriters. This too: imo, David Groh was miscast as Joe. He couldn't keep up with Valerie. He didn't have the comedic chops to deliver the lines in a way that lovingly - instead of angrily - responded to Rhoda's antics and insecurities.
@@NaturalEliciaBig mistake!!
@annajacob7981 I remember watching an interview years ago where someone said that they would give him funny lines but he wouldn't be funny. That's part of the reason they got rid of him.
Rhoda throwing shade. Love Valarie Harper. I’m thankful for all she did to entertain us. She such a good actor and good soul. Sending her the best❤️
*Valerie
She passed away in 2019
Funny - Lowel is played by the same guy who played Phyllis' brother Ben on Mary Tyler Moore. He hung out with Rhoda, which drove Phyllis mad with worry they would marry until Rhoda told her he was gay - Phyllis was so relieved LOL. And Barbara Sharma (Myrna) played the 'Feeb' on one of my favorite episodes of MTM. She was hilarious as the waitress Mary got fired and then hired at the station out of guilt. The most useless employee ever. I didn't know until recently that Barbara Sharma was a Bob Fosse dancer. Impressive!!
Barbara Sharma was also a regular cast member of Rowan & Martin's LAUGH-IN.
Years later she played Donnie’s mother on Frasier.
@@TheAmericanGirl1967 Please, who was Donnie on Frasier?
@@annajacob7981 Donnie Douglas, Daphne was engaged to him for a while. He was Niles’ lawyer.
@@TheAmericanGirl1967 Ahhh now I remember, thank you! The name Donnie made me think it was a kid.. but I know now it was that adult actor. Thank goodness Daphne never married him! 😅
The acting in this sitcom is so good.
I remember the days when a married woman with a successful husband could never get a loan in her name. My mother wanted a credit card in her name, the bank said that legally she did not exist, she was Mrs. Richard.... not Betty....
Valerie Harper is stunningly beautiful and a comedic genius. All the best wishes to this marvelous, classy woman.
All up in that 👚
She is one of my favorites
Last time the show had those awful sounding moppets sing the la la las ‼️
They really are the worst 😂
I have seen every episode of Rhoda from the first episode to the last! It makes me laugh!!
This was in 1975. There were no cell phones. The loan officer immediately denied Rhoda’s loan application. Brenda didn’t tell him as she was at work. They certainly wouldn’t have told Ida. So how did Joe find out?
She wore that red heart necklace a lot.
I think it's sad that she won't accept help from her husband and she says her business is HERS. When you're married you are supposed to be one with your spouse. It should be THEIR business and THEIR money.
Especially considering that she gave him money for his business when he was struggling last season.
yeah but she's used to doing things on her own! She wouldn't accept help from her sister either!
Beth schneider Huh? In this episode, she did ask for Brenda's help but Brenda said she was al tapped out due to having just taken a vacation.
In the 1970s, the idea was two totally different, independent individuals who came together based on sexual attraction (what they called 'love') and stayed together as long as the sexual attraction outweighed the difficulties of dealing with the other separate, individualistic person who had his or her own, separate path through life, not to be impeded or in any way inhibited by the other person's needs, problems, or other 'insecurities' and 'hang-ups.' It was basically roommates with benefits as the notion of marriage.
Notice that their wedding vows said, 'As long as we both shall love.' That means, 'Until it becomes too difficult or challenging to be around you and I don't feel romantic and sexually attracted to you like I did at the beginning of our relationship. Then I'm out.'
They thought that sexual attraction and excitement was 'love' and that they should keep that 'excitement' in their marriage and make it sexually 'interesting' all the time, or else the marriage would die. Sure: when a roommate becomes too annoying, it will affect the sex and you'll walk away.
It's how they remade marriage in the '70s, hence the 50% divorce rate that is still with us. Marriage wasn't for life; it was for pleasure and 'self-fulfillment' and your 'SELF-fulfillment' should never have to take a backseat to the other person's needs.
You can't have two essentially selfish people, trying to develop themselves as separate individuals, and also have them focused on becoming unified and 'one' and putting the relationship first, their spouses second, and themselves last.
Keep your attitude, Emily, and don't settle for a man who doesn't share it, and you will probably end up with a marriage 'for long as we both shall LIVE' even if you don't feel romantically 'in love' and sexually 'interested' 24/7/365.
The Answering Service guy next-door was also Phyllis’ gay brother who platonically dated Rhoda on the MTM Show.
He was also the man from the unemployment bureau who cut off Rhoda's unemployment benefits early in season 1
RIP Valerie Harper
Amen 😭
the judge from whats up doc
His line “that’s ….unbelievable” was delivered impeccably, with perfect comic timing and cadence; one of the biggest laughs in the whole movie.
''It's pouring out there. It's a miserable day.'' Why do people always say that?! Rainy days are my favorite!!
Mine too. I live in AZ, so every rainy day is especially treasured. I live in northern AZ though, so we get more rainy days than down in the desert.
Emily Edwards Mine too as long as I don't have any errands to run. I love watching it rain. Especially heavy rain.
I love them too.
Here in New York 3 rainy days in a row and people get homicidal.
@@janetgriffiths7200 Yes! I'm in Tucson and look forward to the Monsoon season. The smell of the desert after the rain aaah love it.
18:35 Liam Dunn was a terrific character actor. He had a HOOT of a guest spot on "All in the Family" as Mr. Fairchild from the Benjamin Franklin Mutual insurance agency who finds out that Archie filed a phony claim! Liam was also in a bunch of Mel Brooks films. Sadly, the guy smoked like a chimney and died on the set of one of Brooks films I believe. He was only about 60 years old. But he had so many funny roles.
I was really hoping this was Myrna's last show. I dislike her that much.
I dont think she's so bad, at least she has a personality unlike some guy later on in the series whose name rhymes with penny 🤫
So sad the marriage ended
Rhoda hasn’t been taking two hour lunches or flaking off when her office is busy. Her business is not big enough to handle big accounts so most of her customers are small businesses. Among them are customers who like the man Rhoda spoke to has a prior commitment to his bookie.
SO looking forward to getting to Season 3 and get rid of those DAMN KIDS SINGING!!!
La la la la la la la la
OMG! Me too!
🙋🙄🤔🧐Carlton is like the guy on the show home improvement with Tim allen they never showed the next door neighbor he was always hidden by the fence
There have been others, no? I can’t think of them at the moment...
I was just thinking of that, lol
Mary Tyler Moore in her first regular tv show character (even before the Dick Van dyke show) was seated at a desk & it was just her legs from the knees down that was only ever seen.
@@g-girl9867 Howard's mother in The Big Bang Theory.
Nile's wife Maris in Frasier.
Why does Rhoda have to make everything so damned difficult, this makes me understand the separation!!
And that says why *YOU* are single. It's a sit-com relax woman!
Robert Moore played Phylis's gay brother on an episode of MTM.
Barbara Sharma was good in this episode! Long live "Rhoda"!
Anyone who watched Rhoda saw the separation come on very quickly. It might make more sense if you factor in the house purchase. The permanence of owning a house might have been the thing that pushed him over. I'm sure the writers thought that.
I was literally like Joe last Wednesday when I threw my back out at work. Walked out hunched over in pain and for the next two days
Stephen Rottiers hope your better!
Years ago, I threw my back out folding towels. The instant it happened my thought was WTF.
Was on the coach for the rest of the day, staring at a pile of clean laundry in the laundry basket on the floor.
Felt like it was a scene out of a sit com. Hilarious.
"Brenda, don't believe what people tell you. Fat people are not jolly."
ButterNut Soap Company Brenda & Rhoda often say they're fat and they weren't. They weren't ever even chubby.
@@yolandagrady7232 no you are wrong, Brenda was overweight and rhoda was too on MTM, you are just used to big broads who celebrate obesity nowadays
Yeah that running gag is really sick :(
Joe's walking like he had a busy night at the bathhouse bottoming, lol.
Hahahahahaha, that sh*t is hilarious!!!!!!😃🙂☺️😉😁😘🤗
And he certainly bends over well too! Wuff! =)
Hawklike are crazy 😜!
That is absolutely disgusting. Why would you say such a thing? Your mother must be embarrassed she raised a vulgar and disgusting son. The people who go to bathhouses should be locked away for mental Illness and depravity
😬
The answering service guy is Robert Moore, who played Phyllis's brother Ben, on the MTM show, for one episode. She was desperate to match up Mary and Ben. Phyllis was petrified that her brother would end up with Rhoda, as they were really enjoying each other's company. Didn't happen, because it turned out that Ben was gay. Ben gay? Really.
Jo sounds so like Paul Stanley lol. ⭐️⭐️
LOVE THIS SHOW ❤️❤️❤️
Quit slapping your thighs, Rhoda! Please!
No, please, women's thigh slapping is a real sexy turn on! Even if it's only their own thighs.
Love this show! Rhoda's sarcasm and wit is perfectly played by a great actress.
One thing is I get very invested in the characters on my shows and I do hate that Joe leaves after this episode, because their marriage seemed so strong! (the show stayed good, but should've kept joe) I mean, Joes character was completely switched after this episode. He went from a loving caring, gentle, hilarious guy who was SOO in love with Rhoda too a jerk who wanted sex but no relationship. Sad......
I think the writers were responding to the changing times and trying to keep the show topical, but I agree; the series lost its spark once the relationship between Rhoda and Joe inexplicably evaporated.
I never liked Joe for Rhoda. She deserved a funny, devoted Man. Joe was too cold.
Kaitlin: About the Joe character and his and Rhoda's "strong" marriage...Have you really seen the earlier episodes?? The Joe character was poorly conceived and badly written from the start and, in my opinion, David Groh was terribly miscast.
Cynthia Lyman: In many interviews over the years, the "Rhoda" producers and writers and Valerie Harper herself made it clear why the Joe character was written off the show, and "trying to stay topical" had absolutely nothing to do with it. I refer you to interviews done for The Academy of Television Arts And Sciences, available on RUclips and on the Academy's own website.
well the writers made a mistake
And the "answer man"; Lowell Snyder, was Phyllis' brother Ben on MTM. On the "My Brothers Keeper" episode. The one where Rhoda said, "he's gay..." Famously. He was played by famous actor/director Robert Moore. Who was an actor and a director within the MTM stable.
Forgot to say "CAN'T STAND THE ANNOYING MOTHER".
who can?!
Take what you like and leave the rest. Lots of shows to watch or take a walk. Maybe tv isn't your thing ?!!
I agree with you on that one!
@@lorimiller4301 Lori, people are allowed to opine. I love Ida on the show, but a real life Ida would drive me nuts. Just because one character is unlikable to some, does not mean they don't or can't enjoy the show.
@@ichigomentos who would watch a Show where they're annoyed by a Character ? I guess I never valued TV that highly. My Dad watches that stupid one that says we built the pyramids in the opening theme. I can't stand that they would lie about that, so I don't watch. Don't like the Sheldon Guy either. So do I aggrivate myself ? Nope. I'm probably the only Kid my age who hasn't seen all the Bradys lol.
Damn! I was hoping to see Carlton!
Another great episode. The writing is inconsistent. Joe took Rhoda and Rhodas parents money.
Rhoda was totally wrong on not accepting money from Joe because they are married and back in Season 1 when he was struggling with his business he went to her parents for help and even Rhoda offered him money to help him. I didn't understand her logic in this episode.
Brenda was lovely, so sweet.
Joe took rhoda's money so y couldn't rhoda take joe's
Of course she can't. She's a feminist. Giving money to a man gives you POWER, and taking from a man makes you 'weak' and powerless. So you see? Women WIN when they won't enter fully into marriage with their husbands. They get 'empowered' to do everything on their own, including failing massively because they have the illusion that they are somehow isolated powerhouses instead of human being who are born into and defined by their relationships. We're all relational; we all need our human relationships; we're in relationship with animals, plants, the weather - NOBODY, not even a feminist, can be isolated and purely in power over his/her life. Rhoda's an idiot because she drank the feminist cool-aid that says that a woman has to do things 'by herself' or she has no worth. Wrong: she has no help, no support, and no real relationships. She becomes inhuman, unnatural, distorted, because there is NO plant, animal or person who is not by nature 'in relationship' and dependent on others.
You must be a millenial.
@@realmaletearsaspatriarchys1351 I may not agree with everything that Figaro Hey! said but doesn't this person have the Right to Express an idea without abusive people like you posting insults? You Are a MORON who hides behind a screen.
@ Miss.King Emery. Figaros is right.
@@FigaroHey OMG! It’s not that serious! It’s a television show.
This episode is pretty much the same as Episode 16 of Season 1 titled Guess What I Got You For The Holidays. In that one, Joe was the one who was depressed & behind on all his company bills & Rhoda was the one doing well and offering him a loan. Only difference is she gave him $2000 but in this episode all she needed was $1000.
Robert Moore was in another episode the season before. Is this the same Robert Moore who also directed a bunch of episodes of the series?
The secretary Myrna was on Mary Tyler Moore also, playing a different woman
How did Rhoda and Joe's relationship sour so much in only 3-4 months. Next season, they split up. Never could understand the producers getting rid of Groh. The amazing characters of Goodwin and Doyle with their actors portraying them gave the show a krutch but ultimately that error was fatal.
agreed 100% ... sadly one cannot measure the effect until after the bad decision.
If Rhoda had ask Brenda to take out the loan. She had a better chance because she worked at the bank.
come on,we wanted to see carlton!!
You will never see Carlton. Ever.
@@RepentfollowJesus And of course the actor behind the plank there was not Mr Music anyway.
I remember when Rhoda gave Joe money for his business and now he only wants to loan her the money. Bunch of Hootie
everybody thought: At last! we see what Carlton looks like. . . . .
Carlton: " Wanna Make A Bet?"
I wish they will have given Joe and Rhoda more of a fighting chance for there marriage they were so good together ❤
Interesting how joe wanted to devorice in Season 3
Is that anything like licorice?
When Joe and Rhoda decided to take a few days off for their marriage, they referred to Myrna and Justin as their 'partners' in business. Now Myrna is an employee who can quit. How can they be so inconsistent within just a few episodes?
I hate when thin women think they are fat.
I hate when fat women think their beautiful
My brother calls me old because I love watching old tv 📺 shows like the Mary Tyler Moore show Rhoda 227 the golden girls and designing women Lavern and Shirley mamas family
Mr. Dempsey was in Young Frankenstein.
short version??
The guy who plays the answer man. He was a espiodes. Playing Phyllis brother. He and Rhonda were seeing out. Turns out he was gay.
Tim Allen ripped off the idea this show had. They would never show Calton. And they never showed Tim's neighbor.
Frasier we never saw Maris
Big Bang we never saw Wolowics mom.
Both these people were supposed to be really fat too.. A lot of shows do the "invisible" person, just can't think now... anyone else?
@@skunk69x29 But we never heard her voice either. She was totally invisible.
I don't think Cheers ever showed Norms wife Vera
How did they get so cute!?
...TRIVIA: ...The guy (who wants Rhoda's Office) was played by the same Man who played Phyllis' Brother (who Rhoda 'dated', and happened to be Gay), in the MTM Ep, "My Brother's Keeper" ...making Valerie the FIRST PERSON to admit someone was Gay, in TV History....& Rho's 'shady' comment at 2:49, references it.....
Did they ever show Carlton's face?
They didn’t
Back then a real man wouldn't take money from his wife.
I lived back then and they did all the time. Don’t believe all the incel propaganda.
Open na nor
I keep skipping through all the episodes that have people barging in on the couple and the unwanted "guests" can't take a hint and leave. Can't find one, so will stop watching this show. Too bad because I am an avid fan of Valerie's.
They should have cast another actress for Myrna because Barbara Sharma is as interesting and enjoyable as a doctor's waiting room. I like everyone else on the series but don't see anything appealing in Sharma at all.
Brenda in short skirt n stockings wayhay! but just don't talk brenda and we'll get married.
What happened to femininity...., look like he got it
I was not alive yet when this show was on. Listening to the studio audience, it seems they LOVED this show. But since that time, Rhoda has been "not very popular." Was this the public opinion of the show at the time? Like it was one of the best shows on TV? Maybe someone can definitively answer.
Ridiculous