MASH X-ride 650 UK's First REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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I bought one! I’m very pleased with it, if you rode a Dominator in the past, you’ll feel at home. After about 300 miles it’s loosened up and goes well, my only dislikes are that hazard switch, which I’ve cut the knob off, and a lack of neutral light, it puts a small “N” in the clock LCD which comes and goes slowly when you go through neutral. The standard tyres are woeful off road, buy surprisingly good on the tarmac, I’ll change them for some Twinduros. The fuel gauge is ok but underreads a bit. Overall the build quality is really good, as he says in the video, this is way better than the stuff we’ve come to expect from China, but don’t forget it’s made by Shineray who make bikes for Honda, it’s quite expensive for a Chinese bike, but quality comes at a price, I reckon.
Hi, I am thinking of buying one, could you comment if you are still happy with it?
@@Mafez800 Hi Manuel, yes I’m still happy with the bike, I really enjoy riding it, people are still stopping me and asking me about it! Although I don’t ride it very much at the moment as I’ve recently got into enduro riding and have bought a 500 Honda for that job. I’ve got it up for sale at DMA motorcycles if you fancy it, and you’re in the UK, £4300 and she’s yours with about 500 miles in the clock. Either way, I hope you have fun on mine or a new one, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.
@@owensparrow62 did you sell it yet?
I was going to buy one but then I read in a bike review magazine that a service would cost you over £500. Something to do with the values checked. If I have to spend £500 every 2500 miles then it's going to get too expensive
Good question. If it was that good why sell it 🤔
That's the one for me. It's got the yamaha xt 500 look that I loved so much back in the 70's 👍
That's possibly the best looking bike I've seen in a long time.
yeh about 42 years.
@@mc2594 it's true.
Indeed
Do you know Fantic Caballero ?
@@ypcgnx7766Yes the Fantic Caballero is very nice, a good Mix with modern Parts and oldschool. But.......but the Mash X-ride looks like a modern Version of the Yamaha XT 500.
I seriously love the look of this bike!!
I know the Ducati scrambler is only a couple of grand more but, still it's a couple of grand and this bike just looks and sounds like a bargain!! Great work guys👍🏾
A couple of grand more? It’s about £4,000 to £5000 more
Yeh 19” front wheel, metal sump guard, oh and a kick start. 😉
17” rims makes it a Supermoto
with the small front wheel it looks more like a Super Moto bike. I agree the front wheel would look better if it was slightly larger, but the smaller wheel probably makes it more "flickable", with less gyroscopic effect.
I wonder if you could get a matching 19" or 21" rim from someone like Hagon Wheels laced to that hub? There's room for it!
I agree - 17" rims are supermoto, with street rubber, of course. Knobby enduro tires for a 18/21 combo. These wheels look kinda wrong.
I heard early 2q21 they release a 18",21" Enduro based on this
The Suspension is Supermoto
The 17" wheels are a smart move by Mash, as plenty of road focused tyres are available. Hey presto, instant supermoto look!
And the 17 inch is better for the road handeling
Lovely looking bike, maybe it’s my age but I love the XT styling
Second time through this, and I don't think I left a comment, so have one this time. Stunning bike. As a former XT500 owner who lusted after a Dominator in the late 80s, this bike really appeals. 169 kg must be a dry weight, surely. I like the 17'' front wheel. I like the colour.
I owned an XT 500 it was one of the most versatile bikes ever. Maybe not as refined as today's machines but in the day, great ride. You could go through hell and back on it. And it had a kick start for dead battery times. Having said all that I absolutely love this bike.
Great bikes. I do wonder how strong is the top end. I think the honda camshaft ran straight in the alloy head without bushes or bearings. The oil feed needs to be really good too and a good camchainband tensioner.
Got to be the best looking retro scrambler yet, really cool and a Honda engine a bonus. Great review to looks a quality build, wait til the Bike Shed boys get hold of it for a special.
I know they are not in the same price range but the Triumph Street Scrambler is a way better looking bike imo
Love the looks of this bike Ogri and pleased to hear that Malcolm is still with you.
Wish you could have said a bit more on what instrumentation was included.
Yep bigger front wheel with those tyres for a duel purpose bike, those wheels and road tyres and lower mud guard for road. 👍🏼
🙂 Great channel! 👍🏼
Newly subscribed, really enjoyed this video with my morning coffee. Great presentation, upbeat and funny, detailed, well put together video!
I have a very clean ‘98 GSX-R 600 in blue and white, but love a wide variety of bikes.
This Mash 650 looks great, the white and gold work well, it has a look of Benelli about it, particularly with the exhausts and number board with wire spoke wheels combination.
I like the 17" on the front! Sticky tyres on it, bar end mirrors and let's get cracking 🙂
Exactly what I was thinking! Brings back memories of SR/XT's from the late 70s to early 80s but none of the getting launched over the handlebars when they kick back! Good times!
I like the LOOK of the 17" front too, but how difficult would it be to get hold of a gold 19" or 21" rim laced up to the original hub? Is the speedo front wheel driven and can it be recalibrated?
The dealer I brought mine from tells me a more offroad version is coming, when my tyres are shot I think I will put on some Heldinau Supermoto boots.
Love the look of this bike and if I had the spare cash i would definitely have one as a second bike!
Great review .. and yes 19" plus the metal guard... You always put out a full review of these bikes. 👍
Thank you
I have never heard of Mash motorcycles until I saw your video today. My friend who use to drag race Suzukis, and one of the best riders I've ever known would love the name, his name was James Mash. Unfortunately he died of cancer about six years ago. The only other motorcycle that even comes close in my mind would be the Royal Enfield Himalayan, but the Mash has twice the horsepower and that makes it the winner!
Great looking bike, looks very much like the old XT500 if they made a full adventure version of this I reckon it could be a real winner.
I like it. I am really turned off by so many motorcycles on the show room right now. I want a scrambler of the old school with 2020 technology. 650 is a good size and power. I want to see it in the dirt.
I will get another demo bike soon so we can test it offroad
I've a feeling these are going to sell pretty well (commuter/2nd bike). I'd av 1. Great review, Crackin looking bike. 😊
Front brake reservoir is shouting “ go ahead, make my day”
Love the bike, love the review, you are causing me all sorts of problems in choosing which of the bikes you've reviewed to go for, 250 Bluroc V2, Bullit 250 single scrambler, SWM 450, and especially this one, this one is just a beauty !
Excellent presentation, very targeted commentary and a great episode once again !!!
Regarding the mash 650cc bike the only negative that I can spot, is that we don’t get to have it in Greece....
As an XT600E 2003 owner and with no intentions to sell it, I still want a new bike of the same style and philosophy, next to my old and trusty Yamaha
That bike with a few changes, as you very well mentioned more than twice, could be a very good update for people that have this particular vintage, dual sport motorcycling approach.
Ja, hat sie, das Fahrgefühl ist original XT 600e,ich kann es bestätigen!!!
Good looking bike. A bit too similar to the Ducati Desert Sled.
Definitely it needs a 19” front tyre.
Yes, plus some 90/10 tyres and its complete.
Lovely bike, a 19 inch front wheel with a more functional mudguard and a larger capacity tank would seal the deal.Used to love my XT 500 forty plus years ago. Great review, keep up the good work. !!!
How does the bhp and torque figures compare with an xt500
I bought a Himalayan last year but was disappointed (20bhp ☹️) and sold it. This MASH could be what I thought I was getting, looks incredible 😁.
I Love your videos! I have been waiting for this one!
If I remember right, Mash people are thinking about a new version "kind of Adventure" with a 19 inches front wheel.
I’ve bought one from The guys at Saltire who done a great deal for me! I can agree with Ogri it’s a great bike .I’ve done around 150 miles now with it and a demonstrator that Victor Devine lent me.I bought it because of the styling (I also have a 1979 xt 500) and it doesn’t disappoint. The ride is great , it steers well and the brakes are superb. The front wheel does look a little small but you don’t notice it when your on it. I’m not a hard core knee down kind of rider but I’ve owned a few bikes over the years ( 6 or 7 in the last 2 years alone!) and it’s up there with any of them. The only criticism I have is the instruments or lack of! I would have liked a trip meter and a gear indicator and a clock. But thats all I could really critique. It’s a great bike , it’s light,chuckable, has enough power to take the missus on the back and looks the part. The build quality is great and and at a bit over 5 k how can you go wrong? I nearly bought a bmw f750 ( still waiting on the phone call about the test ride from bmw Glasgow!) and at twice the price! Glad I didn’t the mash is great.... buy one and it won’t dissapoint.
Hi man, im thinking about buyng the new trail model. How is your bike doing at the moment? Im a little worried about its reliability and can't find many opinions. Thanks.
@@valhallarider9724 buy one! The larger wheels and smaller disc will be better for the bike. The large disc had a gyroscopic effect on right turns a slow speed! I’ve moved on to a fantic Cabalero 500 which is good but the mash looked better and was a real head turner. I put a head light grill on it and loved it.
Was hoping to get the 690 KTM but just recently bought a house. This 650 Mash maybe the answer now. They are very different bikes but I just need something to cruise on more than anything else. Ice cream runs to the beach with my wife on the bike. Thanks for the vid very useful. Anton - Algarve Trailriding Tours.
>>Tyres made by Kenda
Does this mean inside is a Kenda Suprise?
Adds to the 'yibble shaky' as the advert used to go......
It will be when they loose grip
No good when warm then 🇬🇧🏍👍😷
It is now available in black as well and I love it
Have a look at the Fantic caballero. A similar bike. Very imspiring off road. Very easy to have fun on.
Watch this space...
Will have to wait a few years for second hand ones, with the massive depreciation they might suffer they'll be some good deals.
Looks amazing, especially for the money. It looks well made. Having owned a 1995 Honda Dominator for 7 years I know how good that engine is. I would be interested to see how the Mash compares handling wise, as the Honda had a much narrower 21" front wheel. The efi and the oil cooler are notable improvements too.
I own a 1979 Yamaha XT500, with gold rims (aftermarket). I can see one of these Mash X-Rides in my garage very shortly :-)
Where can you buy one and do you know the price?
@@peterbalac1915 approx £5k and a dealer in the UK
@@darrenclark6115 cheers Darren 🤙
I have one and its great ! my only gripe there is no adjustment on the suspension but to be fair this is a superb bike.
Where did you get yours? Mash dealer near me in Bristol says they don't plan on getting a demo bike.
Which is a pity as I want a test ride before I hand over 5k.
Brinkworth Garage
The Street · Brinkworth
Wiltshire · SN15 5DJ
T 01666 510456
E sales@dmamotors.uk
W www.dmamotors.uk
@@tonyexall5732 thank you. Do they have a demo bike?
That is one cracking looking bike! (No pun intended)
Good looking, well priced and rideable for the road bike. It might be on my shopping list at some point. Great idea and looker.
21 front please mash ????competition for himalayan ??? Cheers dave...
Yes, yes, would love to see it with a 19" front wheel.
The old honda Dominator was a bugger for stalling at tick over especially when running in, mind you that was many years ago 👍🏻
EFI should sort that out...or if anyone has a dommie a 52 pilot jet helps with the stalling issue.
I’ve had 3 Xt500s and this is way, way better, and with XTs now about £8000, if you’re after something similar, this is a no brainer. 650cc, punchy motor, leccy start, excellent brakes, lovely.
Put a 21" front wheel on and I'm sure I'd buy one......... Could someone do a conversion and let us know the results? Please........ Great review, by the way :-)
Nice bike ..would seriously consider buying one.
My type of machine
With those wheel sizes this bike is a tire change away from prime supermoto material I'd say.
Nice bike, AJS need to up their game start making bigger cc bikes
A nice 650 retro roadster would be appreciated.
Great bike. I want one of these fitted with an FZ-09 power plant.
Love the gold rims and the super moto look. I agree that a choice of colours would be nice. Looks good value on the face of it. Rather spend the extra few pounds and buy the Interceptor though.
Youre Review is better than the German from the popular Motorcycle Magazin "Motorrad"
You have better and more Information. Thank you and sorry, my english is not very well.
Greetings from Germany.
Thank you
I have been a fan of Yamaha TT500s since the beginning because they looked awesome and were race winners at the indoor flatrack races. They out performed big money open class race bikes with nothing more than a 19" front wheel change even with a stock pipe. I have owned 3 and still have 2. This new motorcycle is impressive even though its somewhat quirky looking with the small front wheel. It looks like one I would want to test ride if available in the central United States.
Very ‘Supermoto-esque’; you could put some super sticky road rubber on there for some proper hoonage! Looks great. Put a proper sump guard on and some proper nobblies on & it might be a tool off road too; could be a Himalayan beater? It’d be interesting to find out 🤔
It’s a beautiful bike, looking very well made and one that’s been designed with every day usage in mind, pity the front end, may need a rethink..
XTish & should be a good seller in France. They have a love afair with the XT 500.
Yes it needs the bigger front wheel & an aluminium bash plate.
You said you were concerned that the small front wheel would make the front seem “stiff”, the opposite would be true, the larger diameter front wheel the more centripetal force = harder to turn, anyway that said, great review 👍, I’ll have to get one out for a test ride 👍
Agree about the front wheel look, but it would work with an old fashion mudguard! what is the point of the
'beak' anyway- fashion over function. Otherwise impressive bike.
i had the honda vigor .which was basically looks wise very simular to the mash . an that rode stupidly well with the smaller front wheel. proper back road silliness .
Try the fantic cabellero 500 . They also do a 250cc and a 125.
Already have, done a video too.
Really nice ! Great value. I’ve never even heard of MASH . Where is there factory?
France
@@666t nope, it's in China
@Someone Needs a Snickers love the bike but that made in China is a severe kick in the nadds, Chrs for the heads up🤙
@Wayne Sowerby why repeat an answer from 2 weeks ago - do you have
a stammer?
My old OSSA MAR trials bike had a plastic sump guard .
Mind you it was GRP 15mm thick .
No fear of denting it tough as old boots
xt 500,s are now expensive,i like the look,the equipment and price.a good seller i recon
Love the Yam Xt 500 , was trying to get one but purchased a Can am Spyder , but Mash looks and sounds ace. Cheers .
You must be the only person in history to cross-shop an XT500 and a Spyder.
@@CaptHollister user name checks out.
Good looking bike, needs a 19" inch front wheel with low mudguard. Looks like a modern version of the old Honda XL185s.
The frantic caballero is quite nice too, but this one looks nice too
Great video and a lovely bike! Can I say what a good job you’ve been doing with all your reviews. I love your presenting style and mix of light humour and proper information. Keep up the good work! I hope the channel continues growing despite the obvious limitations due to the size of the target audience.
PS: definitely needs bigger wheels!
Thank you
I agree that it needs a 19" front wheel. I don't normally like the scrambler exhausts but on this bike it looks good. The bike overall looks great I think. What looked weird was how low your boots were during the ride, almost to scrape the road. I hope that wasn't because the suspension was so loose that road clearance dropped substantially to street bike level. It didn't look like that when you were sitting on it stationary. Power to weight ratio looks potent as well.
Great looking bike ....I will have to give this serious thought
I had an xT500 back in 1980 would love to own this Mash as xt’s are at ridiculously high prices now ( and not worth a quarter of what people are asking for them ‘ I’ll have to wait for a second hand one though 😏
I know of an x-demo with street tyres on for 4k something
Very nice and down to earth review!!! I also enjoyed the humping up and down to test the suspension 😁👍...we all did that in our motorcycle riding career...🤷♂️😁
I've just purchased one unregistered as I couldn't wait. Ill register it in March on a 21 plate. It's in my garage stood next to my fully restored 1979 XT500F, they look great together, I cant wait until the spring.
I've had a couple of months to go over it with a fine tooth comb. Whilst it's no BMW or Honda, and as a mechanical engineer, the build quality is pretty good considering it came from China.
Things I've found, the frame looks like its painted, not bad, spokes are not Stainless, some cable runs are poor along with some nasty cable grommets, some smaller bolts are plated steel but quite a few are surprisingly Stainless. Took me a while to work out how to switch the speedo from Kph to Mph. Cycle Ignition switch ON/OFF 3 times and leave on after 3rd cycle, nothing in the manual nor on line strangely.
But come on, its a hell of a lotta bike for 5 grand brand new. I just love the look of it
I've bought this just for summer tatting around in the Peak District
Andy aged 60 , never thought Id admit to that publicly.....
Cool, would love to see a photo of them together.
Provided it does 'The Ton'- I would have one of these, (fitted with clip-ons and a proper front mudguard.) Unfortunately- you do not mention BHP/ Rake and Trail- or fuel consumption!?!
Certainly- it is an interesting machine- if you are into 'plonkers'.
Looks very nice and something I've been hoping for ,for a long time .
Yeah, I like it and I've got the leathers in the same colours. 😀
Great video
I’ve just moved to Cyprus and am looking for something to potter about on and occasionally go off road. This could be a serious option. Many thanks 🙏
Read on techzle: "In addition to the X-Ride 650 driven by us, there will also be an off-road version with 21 ”front wheel and 18” rear wheel", that sounds more up street. But then I did have an XT500 once upon a time
Very nice looking bike,yet to ride one,but the old dominator was a great bike,looking forward to riding one
19" or 21” front wheel 17 " or 18" back, metal bash plate, bigger fuel tank (18 ltr), longer front fender with vents for the oil cooler and a better front brake fluid reservoir and i'll buy one. A European RE Himalayan
This may be the first Chinese bike I wish we had available in Canada. Fortunately, we can still buy the Suzuki DR650 which is more rustic and not very comfortable (I know, I used to own one), but at least it's a proper air-cooled thumper. When it comes to this Mash, the looks scream Yamaha, which is a good thing. Would it look better with a 19" front wheel ? perhaps, but it's plenty good looking as it is.
Edit: one month later, I just watched a French video in which a rep for Mash stated that they are working on a version with a 21" front and 18" rear wheels to be launched in spring 2021.
I preferred my DR650SE over the XR650L I had, mainly because of the engine. It's one of the few bikes I remember of the 40+ bikes I owned in the last 25 years, along with the XS650.
If you can ride a DR legally in your country, you're lucky! Get one as long as they are still available! :)
@@PrimoStracciatella The DR650SE is still listed by Suzuki Canada for 2021, so we can still buy them new, although good used ones are plentiful and cheap. An alternative is the Kawasaki KLR650, possibly the best do-it-all motorcycle ever made. Kawasaki stopped making it 2 years ago, but like the Suzuki, used ones are cheap and plentiful.
Excellent vid, thats a a very nice nod to the past, which ahem older folk like me like👍👍needs more colour options, i always liked the Yamaha blue and yellow. 5k a lot of good looking bike.
If those were sold in the USA I'd buy one today. For now I'm waiting on the BSA 650 Gold Star announced last year & available...nobody knows when.
I meant to say, regarding the neutral selection issue. It's a brand new bike, I'll bet that goes away after a few hundred miles. Both because of the gearbox needing to free up, but also you might be getting a bit of clutch drag with brand new clutch and oil?
Good looking bike, good price and looks quality
Possible replacement for my cb500x... I like it. 21 inch wheel and a bit of protection that will green lane no worries..
Tkanks for the Nice review. Nice bike.
I'd reverse the indicator lenses so they form an arrow pointing the direction you're going
A bigger front wheel would definitely improve the looks. I also don't like the front mudguard. A low one would be my choice.
Beautiful bike, the only new (unknown) scrambler that looks better is the Fantic Caballero
I like the style, very reminiscent of the XT250 of the 80’s withe the gold rims.
I would prefer a larger front wheel, looks to Supermotard for me as it is but looks nice.
Just seen, great vid thanks...lovely bike...think you can get in Black now....still prefer white tho..
Please MASH make a nice long-wheelbase cruiser/bobber with this engine and some nice exhausts, make it look old-school and you will sell crateloads everywhere. Super bike.
Very nice looking bike. Especially like the tank shape. But I agree with you, the front wheel would look better at 19". 👍🇨🇦
I'll go for the Dirt Track 650, cheaper with the same engine, 18" wheels and inverted front shocks. I think it's a better option...
I would love one. Looks great and if it’s a Honda engine you can’t go wrong. 👍🇬🇧
Nice looker but my preference is a carb it's rare if F.I. is smooth on part throttle and being a single you'll notice.
Euro 4 and Euro 5 you won't get carbs any more (unless on a 50cc)
Tyres of that size were fine on the much heavier Yamaha Diversion 900. But a 19” front wheel would better suit this style.
Should have a 19" front wheel for sure. Lovely looking but l worry about the dealer support with these small manufacturers.
Great review, never heard of these before as I'm young and into sports bikes, but I'm going to be in the Amalfi Coast with my girlfriend in a few weeks and despite having had an A2 for two years and now my full A, due to my age I am limited to what I can rent. My only two options beyond mopeds appears to be either the Royal Enfield Himalayan, or this (which I am fine with, a sports bike would definitely not be suited for the two of us!). I am leaning towards this as it's got around 10 more horsepower and is 20kg lighter so I think that will greatly help with a pillion, although I wonder if the ergonomics of the Himalayan (i.e. seat size and positioning) may suit a two-up ride better. She is only small so I'm sure it would work on this bike, will only be for a few hours over a day or two.
I like the Mash, what's the fuel consumption and range? Can I fit luggage to it? I've got Lomo throw-over panniers, but that high level exhaust might cause a problem unless the Mash can be fitted with pannier racks.
Those tyres are more road-oriented than the look of the bike suggests. I imagine that most Mash buyers will not be doing much off-roading, it's more about the street-cred. Which is totally OK, of course.
For off-road or green lanes, I would have concerns about the plastic bash-plate and not so brilliant ground clearance that I can perceive from your video. I think you are right about the wheel-size issue, sure they look super-cool, but off-road performance would be improved by a bigger front wheel and decent 60/40 (on-off road) tyres.
Try the new Royal Enfield 450 Himalayan, 40bhp, same as the Mash and with retro-styling. And cheap as chips.
Love and peace.
What do you think this one against the fantic caballero 500?