if the actual cost of the bike was 5.000E for the new dual sport style it would have sold like peanuts. On the other hand at the price you can get Yamaha's MT-3 , Kawa Z400, Benelli's TRK 502 or Leoncino 500, Honda CB 500, Husqvarna svartpilen, KTM 390 and CF Moto or even Bajaj Dominar 400. All of them have power around 40-48hp.
Looks a good bike but I think the Royal Enfield bikes are better for the money as the parts backup and resale value will be better over the years just incase Mash goes Mashed after a few years 🤷♂️
Thanks for a great vid guys, I love the looks of this apart from the headlight- on which I can't decide whether I totally love it or totally hate it. This looks to be a viable and affordable retro styled alternative to the RE 650s, but there is that slight niggle about nationwide parts and servicing availability... I like that it's on the lighter side for a 650, so the 40bhp won't feel too little for the odd A-road run.
I've been taking a good hard look at the R.E. Interceptor and at this bike , love the look of the R.E. but was not so crazy about the front end of this bike but if as you say you can get one with bigger light you just made it even harder to make my mind up so thanks for that .. Just yanking your chain there guys great video review and I think I'm just going to have to get both bikes . love this channel .
The Yamaha MT03 660cc single (discontinued) was a cracking and highly underrated bike imo. I had one for 5 years and loved it. If this big thumper is as grunty, agile and fun to ride as that was, then it's a very good bike.
Nice. The concept reminds me of the Sachs 650. A road bike chassis with the big single from the Suzuki DR650 trail bike. Even the capacity at 644 is the same. Shame they didn't fit a stainless steel exhaust.
Really love and appreciate your work guys. Any chance or plans for review of the Sinnis Bomber any time soon, really like the look of it but there isn't much about it online so I hope that you guys can help.
I don‘t like the ugly headlight, I would replace it first with a regular round headlight (p.e. from the Mash Five Hundred) But the rest is very beautiful and the bike looks powerful and sounds great! Cool video! Best regards
I think the mud you're seeing on the front light and plate are from the small front mudguard really. The tires flicks the mud forward, the air catches it, and it comes back on the light.
What is it's top speed. Does it do a Ton? What is it's acceleration like in the mid range? How many miles to the Gallon? Mud on the headlight. Yes, it will get dirty particularly off road but then that mud has too go somewhere whatever the headlight set up. Think I would prefer an ordinary light just the same.
My type of bike, i think i'll be getting this, for £5.1k. Recently sold my HD883 customised flat track inspired bike to my mate. Need to fill the gap. Good vid.
How does the this Mash 650 compare to the SWM Super dual 650 you tested a year ago ? Both machines are monocylindres and come from "cheaper" manufacturers... You had the chance to test them both, how are they on the job ?
The engine is not all newly designed, it is based on Honda's Dominator, hence the low horsepower. Nevertheless I would like to try the bike, looks like a lot of fun for the price.
I ride a'65 AJS 350 , so large round headlight please . You didn't say whether it is carbureted or injected , and is it battery coil & points or is it electronic ignition inion ? It's a nice looking bike , too bad Mash is not available in Canada .
Add a round light remove that flat front and put a extender fender on front mudguard I think it would work better and find a company that make an sports exhaust and k&n filter get a bit more hp and I think it would be a better option ..... do you think mash will stand the test of time and reliable as the other makes how will the second hand value stack up keep up good reviews take care guys
Is it available with the gold rims and a chrome exhaust? The 250 cc really stands out in this regard and I'm surprised this is not the same as the 250 really stands out by comparison
Yeah, that headlight has to go, otherwise, it´s a cool looking bike, and I like bikes that are around 40 hp. Usable power, low seat heaght, perfect for city riding and every now and then some curvy roads:) Great review! and funny jokes. I love dad jokes XD
Looking for a commuter into the city that isn’t as dull as dishwater. I like the look of these bikes but cannot find anywhere details of the service intervals. The old Honda this is based on had 2k mike oil changes - hoping these would be better?
Jonathan Griffiths shame. It baffles me how short the service intervals on some bikes are. I know many are kept for a couple of sunny days a year but I use a bike all year round for commuting so the practical side of things is really important
The mud splatter problem is caused by the short front mudguard, short as in too short over the front tyre, e.g. The crap is thrown forward but due to the airflow blows back on the bike... Simples!
Longer front mudguard would stop the front wheel throwing crap all over the front headlight area. The front wheel throws dirt up in front of you and you're moving forward into it. Happens on any bike with very short or no front mudguard. If you go really fast, it throws it in your face too! Short or no mudguards looks cool as F, but not good for riding in wet weather...or if you like a clean bike! It looks better with mud on it anyway, it a dirt tracker aint it? Ride it like one!
You have tested the SWM Superdual 650T, also a big thumper, made in China, same price bracket..., so how does it compare for power, torque, comfort, built quality & equipment, fit & finish, and reliability? What's your impressions? Thanks for yr help...
Hi, hard to compare as the SWM is more utility than dirt tracker. Both ride brilliantly but different. Mash is more fun use and SWM more practical use. SWM feels more powerful but Mash slightly swifter at the bottom end. Build quality both very good as is reliability although SWM edges the win I would say with comfort and equipment. Both great to ride but depends what you want to use the bike for?
Ooooh no, that headlight killed it for me dead! Why oh why can't manufacturers make good looking bikes? For me the new Triumph 1200 Scrambler is gorgeous- I just don't need that size of bike....650 max so come on someone do it.
French here: it's written 6.5 because of the way we call 650cm3 bikes, we call them 6 and an half (six et demi) ! But yeah, Brittish will be Brittish ...
I’m not sure why euro bikes feel the need to hang that secondary mud guard thing... when I see one I have to fight a sudden urge to grab my angle grinder! Good for them making a 650 thumper though!
It’s 6.5 decilitres. Centilitre is 1/100 litre. Also the price difference between this and RE 650 interceptor is so little that it makes it really hard to take the mash 650 seriously.
Yes it is the Honda Dominator 650 engine for which Mash got the patent in 2016 to produce in China for this bike. Service intervals are 2500 miles plus valve check which does seem a short distance but I think it will be bullet proof.
@@stevenfox7378 i really like the look of the 650 dirt bike ( XT look ) my local dealer has just got some in , im going for a test ride . i was a Honda tech for 20 years and know the 600/650 singles well .
The Himalayan is cheaper and the interceptor is close on price and I think they come with a 3 year warranty, in a couple of years that mash be worth less than a packet of crisps , get a good secondhand yamaha mt07 with change
Where I agree, the RE's are good! Those and certainly the MT are very different style bikes so cannot really compare. Anyone looking for a dirt track style bike probably wouldn't go for a Yamaha MT07, or either of the RE's really. Himalayan is a 28 bhp off road bike and the Interceptor is more of a roadster (Mash Five Hundred...that is actually a 400cc...is closer in comparison to the RE).
I owned the 400 Mash Scrambler from new, and sold it two and a half years later for half what I paid, had no probs at all, bike was solid nippy 80-85mph, cheap to run, great fun and it looked good, it's old tec just like this one, which I liked. The Himalayan is 411cc four-stroke engine that makes 24.5hp the Mash 400 is about 29hp. Both are cool, I prefered the Mash.
What a great looking bike, apart from one thing and we all know what that is. I don't care if it's there to catch mud. It completely F***s up front end of the bike.
Them tyres would be the fist thing to go cheep nylon crap that don't like wet weather I took them off my tnt any bit of wet road and you soon got your arss twitching
I can't think of any factory flatrack style bike to to touch that at the price -did it have a centre stand ? guess not . I use Epidemic sounds too - what's that track called on the opening titles ? . Yep - Mash is a French company - that's why the front got all smegged up -you were on the wrong side of the road mes amis .
Dump that headlamp it ruins the bike . 40 bhp from a modern day 650 single isnt brilliant but if the bottom end torque is there thats a differnt story .....but is it there ? Price is probrobly OK but its still a Chinese bike done over by a French concern .
@@AbdulAllahAbuDaoud My point is if people like the dirt track 6.5 it is probably because it looks and sounds so good....and still rides well, so if they like this style, why go for a bike that looks and sounds nothing like it just because it rides a bit better....but is more expensive?
Motors for the Masses, I’m not convinced that “Dirt Track” is anything but a name for this bike. Would you seriously put that in the same category as a dual sport bike!??
Think yourself lucky, I have owned a MASH, very poor quality, and yes when I bought it, I expected to keep it. So bad I didn't! eventual trade in was as expected, unwanted and worthless.
أَفَرَأَيْتَ إِن مَّتَّعْنَاهُمْ سِنِينَ (٢٠٥) ثُمَّ جَاءَهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُوعَدُونَ (٢٠٦) مَا أَغْنَىٰ عَنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُمَتَّعُونَ (٢٠٧) الشعراء Then have you considered if We gave them enjoyment for years, And then there came to them that which they were promised? They would not be availed by the enjoyment with which they were provided. (Quran 26 :205-207)
It was for 1 minute whilst showing the bike otherwise it would have just been 1 minutes of no noise, just video of the bike...cinematics don't work like that and quiet music whilst out riding so you couldn't hear wind noise but you could still clearly hear the bike...par for the course really.
![[MASH Six Hundred] Le plaisir tranquille](/img/1.gif)
Love your reviews! Hate that headlight.
if the actual cost of the bike was 5.000E for the new dual sport style it would have sold like peanuts. On the other hand at the price you can get Yamaha's MT-3 , Kawa Z400, Benelli's TRK 502 or Leoncino 500, Honda CB 500, Husqvarna svartpilen, KTM 390 and CF Moto or even Bajaj Dominar 400. All of them have power around 40-48hp.
Looks a good bike but I think the Royal Enfield bikes are better for the money as the parts backup and resale value will be better over the years just incase Mash goes Mashed after a few years 🤷♂️
I'm a proper short arse and could get on this whereas others with similar styling I can't so I'm very much into this bike.
Thanks for a great vid guys, I love the looks of this apart from the headlight- on which I can't decide whether I totally love it or totally hate it.
This looks to be a viable and affordable retro styled alternative to the RE 650s, but there is that slight niggle about nationwide parts and servicing availability...
I like that it's on the lighter side for a 650, so the 40bhp won't feel too little for the odd A-road run.
I've been taking a good hard look at the R.E. Interceptor and at this bike , love the look of the R.E. but was not so crazy about the front end of this bike but if as you say you can get one with bigger light you just made it even harder to make my mind up so thanks for that .. Just yanking your chain there guys great video review and I think I'm just going to have to get both bikes . love this channel .
The Yamaha MT03 660cc single (discontinued) was a cracking and highly underrated bike imo. I had one for 5 years and loved it. If this big thumper is as grunty, agile and fun to ride as that was, then it's a very good bike.
always wanted to try one of those
I had one of those too. One of my all time favourite bikes.
The original MT-03 with the XT660 engine was a fantastic-looking bike.
Unusual bike. Nice to have a low-tech big single on the market.
Nice. The concept reminds me of the Sachs 650. A road bike chassis with the big single from the Suzuki DR650 trail bike. Even the capacity at 644 is the same. Shame they didn't fit a stainless steel exhaust.
Great review as always, and love the look of this mash 👌
really like your show i havent missed an episode since that fb mondial revew 2 years ago. keep on the good work :)
Thank you, great yo have you around
Love your reviews! Technical specs, trusted opinions and some fun, too! Keep up the great work!
Nice bike, but the first thing to do is change the headlight into a regular one....
Nice test...Cruise Speed and max Speed? passenger is comfortable?
Front mudguard looks very small could be messy, did you manage to calculate a rough mpg ? Enjoy your vids
Some lol.....not yet.
Really love and appreciate your work guys. Any chance or plans for review of the Sinnis Bomber any time soon, really like the look of it but there isn't much about it online so I hope that you guys can help.
A Bomber is a possibility. Quite an old bike now but we will see what we can do.
I don‘t like the ugly headlight, I would replace it first with a regular round headlight (p.e. from the Mash Five Hundred)
But the rest is very beautiful and the bike looks powerful and sounds great! Cool video! Best regards
Don't like the bike as much as I like your vids and reviews. Always very informative with a dollop of humour. Keep em coming 👍👍
Haha, thank you!
I think the mud you're seeing on the front light and plate are from the small front mudguard really. The tires flicks the mud forward, the air catches it, and it comes back on the light.
Looks ok lads one thing I have noticed is how short the front mudguard is = shite all over the motor
What is it's top speed. Does it do a Ton? What is it's acceleration like in the mid range? How many miles to the Gallon? Mud on the headlight. Yes, it will get dirty particularly off road but then that mud has too go somewhere whatever the headlight set up. Think I would prefer an ordinary light just the same.
My type of bike, i think i'll be getting this, for £5.1k. Recently sold my HD883 customised flat track inspired bike to my mate. Need to fill the gap. Good vid.
I have a barely used one for sale facebook.com/610860032387786/posts/pfbid02FqTV4XNzNNKBGGAi9EMn3BvPywMWrWw7RSYjgC52ewv31HqL7765ZRTVEPCNQhvql/
It looks the bizz, back in the day Suzuki introduced the SP 370 single, this Mash reminds me very much of said bike.
Cheers mate - I was doing my head in trying to to think of that bike -this one is a tad XT500 ?
How does the this Mash 650 compare to the SWM Super dual 650 you tested a year ago ? Both machines are monocylindres and come from "cheaper" manufacturers... You had the chance to test them both, how are they on the job ?
Front headlight/surround & mudguard need a looking at. Was all the crud thrown up off the front tyre?
The engine is not all newly designed, it is based on Honda's Dominator, hence the low horsepower.
Nevertheless I would like to try the bike, looks like a lot of fun for the price.
I was about to say the same, the engine is obviously based heavily on the Honda RFVC.
I ride a'65 AJS 350 , so large round headlight please . You didn't say whether it is carbureted or injected , and is it battery coil & points or is it electronic ignition inion ? It's a nice looking bike , too bad Mash is not available in Canada .
Add a round light remove that flat front and put a extender fender on front mudguard I think it would work better and find a company that make an sports exhaust and k&n filter get a bit more hp and I think it would be a better option ..... do you think mash will stand the test of time and reliable as the other makes how will the second hand value stack up keep up good reviews take care guys
Is it available with the gold rims and a chrome exhaust? The 250 cc really stands out in this regard and I'm surprised this is not the same as the 250 really stands out by comparison
Yeah, that headlight has to go, otherwise, it´s a cool looking bike, and I like bikes that are around 40 hp. Usable power, low seat heaght, perfect for city riding and every now and then some curvy roads:) Great review! and funny jokes. I love dad jokes XD
Looking for a commuter into the city that isn’t as dull as dishwater. I like the look of these bikes but cannot find anywhere details of the service intervals. The old Honda this is based on had 2k mike oil changes - hoping these would be better?
Doubt it . If I remember correctly a lot of these Honda engines really needed a oil change every 1 k to keep the gear change sweet .
Jonathan Griffiths shame. It baffles me how short the service intervals on some bikes are. I know many are kept for a couple of sunny days a year but I use a bike all year round for commuting so the practical side of things is really important
The mud splatter problem is caused by the short front mudguard, short as in too short over the front tyre, e.g. The crap is thrown forward but due to the airflow blows back on the bike... Simples!
Longer front mudguard would stop the front wheel throwing crap all over the front headlight area. The front wheel throws dirt up in front of you and you're moving forward into it. Happens on any bike with very short or no front mudguard. If you go really fast, it throws it in your face too! Short or no mudguards looks cool as F, but not good for riding in wet weather...or if you like a clean bike!
It looks better with mud on it anyway, it a dirt tracker aint it? Ride it like one!
It cracks me up , when he says crack ! brill timing ! 😀😁😂
Drat going to Birmingham NEC this weekend so I'll miss you guys...
Went to the show today..... It was Awesome.... My feet are very tired.... And my brain is full of dreams and ideas.
The indian ftr flat tracker is the bike to buy.
I love the FTR, but it is £12,000. The Mash is £5,000
Oh and I realise its Flat track style but put some better mudguards on it and get rid of the stupid number plate/light bracket too
You have tested the SWM Superdual 650T, also a big thumper, made in China, same price bracket..., so how does it compare for power, torque, comfort, built quality & equipment, fit & finish, and reliability? What's your impressions? Thanks for yr help...
Hi, hard to compare as the SWM is more utility than dirt tracker. Both ride brilliantly but different. Mash is more fun use and SWM more practical use. SWM feels more powerful but Mash slightly swifter at the bottom end. Build quality both very good as is reliability although SWM edges the win I would say with comfort and equipment. Both great to ride but depends what you want to use the bike for?
Ooooh no, that headlight killed it for me dead! Why oh why can't manufacturers make good looking bikes? For me the new Triumph 1200 Scrambler is gorgeous- I just don't need that size of bike....650 max so come on someone do it.
I like the look of the bike. I'd put a flat seat on it for better trail riding and of course get a F----ing loud exhaust pipe.
Switchable abs, nice.
The front end reminds me of the 1980s Honda XL series (185, 250, 500). Didn't like on them either. Rest of the bike looks great though.
French here: it's written 6.5 because of the way we call 650cm3 bikes, we call them 6 and an half (six et demi) ! But yeah, Brittish will be Brittish ...
It gets covered in mud at the front because the mudguard is too short both in front and behind the forks.
I got this bike but I had to lower the height by 4cm front and rear it's perfect to me.
Awesome 👍
It's like the ABBA revival revival band, they look vertually identical to the original impersonators
Awesome. Looks like the Chinese made a better flat tracker than HD.
You've driven both?
Elle a une bonne accélération niveaux sensation ?? Et vitesse de pointe
I’m not sure why euro bikes feel the need to hang that secondary mud guard thing... when I see one I have to fight a sudden urge to grab my angle grinder!
Good for them making a 650 thumper though!
It needs a Bates headlamp, spot on then!
It's almost the same price as the RE Interceptor, which , on balance, I think I prefer.
Me too. Sounds nice but hate that headlight.
RE is a great bike, but Interceptor is more of a generic 70's/80's looking bike, not really the same style.
what happen to the fuel mpg check or did you run out of fingers and toe's
Mash do not know and we didn't use enough fuel to work it out.
I like it.
Both That and the 250 have Pillion Footrests, However no Pillion seat? Or is the rear seat cover removeable?
Yes, it is removable
It’s 6.5 decilitres. Centilitre is 1/100 litre.
Also the price difference between this and RE 650 interceptor is so little that it makes it really hard to take the mash 650 seriously.
Thanks for correcting the smug know-it-all in the video.
Put a lil wiper on the headlight
For mash get Smash. They might not be advised to use that line from an old advert
Honda do a flattracker ftr233, grey import which would be an alternative to the mash.or husky svartpilen.
Could you do a review of the Mash TT 400 cafe racer please
What is top speed on mesh 650cc dirt track
Mash doesn't know the mileage because they sell the bike. The bike is done by Shineray and roll up from the line with already Mash logo on fuel tank.
And thats not a Honda Dominator / SLR 650 engine copy ?
Yes it is the Honda Dominator 650 engine for which Mash got the patent in 2016 to produce in China for this bike. Service intervals are 2500 miles plus valve check which does seem a short distance but I think it will be bullet proof.
@@stevenfox7378 i really like the look of the 650 dirt bike ( XT look ) my local dealer has just got some in , im going for a test ride . i was a Honda tech for 20 years and know the 600/650 singles well .
The Himalayan is cheaper and the interceptor is close on price and I think they come with a 3 year warranty, in a couple of years that mash be worth less than a packet of crisps , get a good secondhand yamaha mt07 with change
Where I agree, the RE's are good! Those and certainly the MT are very different style bikes so cannot really compare. Anyone looking for a dirt track style bike probably wouldn't go for a Yamaha MT07, or either of the RE's really. Himalayan is a 28 bhp off road bike and the Interceptor is more of a roadster (Mash Five Hundred...that is actually a 400cc...is closer in comparison to the RE).
Ok a you get yamaha scr-950 secondhand for a few quid more +a extra 300cc and a bike that will have resale value
I owned the 400 Mash Scrambler from new, and sold it two and a half years later for half what I paid, had no probs at all, bike was solid nippy 80-85mph, cheap to run, great fun and it looked good, it's old tec just like this one, which I liked. The Himalayan is 411cc four-stroke engine that makes 24.5hp the Mash 400 is about 29hp. Both are cool, I prefered the Mash.
Nice bike, nice price but don't like that headlight.
It's so close to being great, a few things could easily be improved...start with that awful headlight!! Also a nice pipe!! 👌
What a great looking bike, apart from one thing and we all know what that is.
I don't care if it's there to catch mud. It completely F***s up front end of the bike.
as i like your brit sense of humour, and as mash is french, here is a tip of a jock friend of mine
' never trust a french'
( i'm half a frog)
Them tyres would be the fist thing to go cheep nylon crap that don't like wet weather I took them off my tnt any bit of wet road and you soon got your arss twitching
I'll be honest I didn't get any twitching in the wet at all.
Wally.....where that term originate anyway?
Needs some proper mudguards and a main stand.
I can't think of any factory flatrack style bike to to touch that at the price -did it have a centre stand ? guess not . I use Epidemic sounds too - what's that track called on the opening titles ? . Yep - Mash is a French company - that's why the front got all smegged up -you were on the wrong side of the road mes amis .
Haha...indeed! Btw that track is called 'Down in the dirt'
@@motorsforthemasses merci - appropriately named track LOL .
That headlight just soes not work. A big round headlight would be much nicer.
Wish they were available here in the colonies
Don't knock it, Biscuit Tins around headlights could catch on.
Now there's a money saving idea!
Dump that headlamp it ruins the bike . 40 bhp from a modern day 650 single isnt brilliant but if the bottom end torque is there thats a differnt story .....but is it there ?
Price is probrobly OK but its still a Chinese bike done over by a French concern .
For that price I would wack on another 1,500€ and get a Royal Enfield Interceptor.
I see your point...but a different style I feel.
Motors for the Masses, of course a different style. A style that won’t buzz me to death at 100 kilometers per hour or above.
@@AbdulAllahAbuDaoud My point is if people like the dirt track 6.5 it is probably because it looks and sounds so good....and still rides well, so if they like this style, why go for a bike that looks and sounds nothing like it just because it rides a bit better....but is more expensive?
Motors for the Masses, I’m not convinced that “Dirt Track” is anything but a name for this bike. Would you seriously put that in the same category as a dual sport bike!??
Looks like a Honda engine: powersports.honda.com/street/adventure/xr650l
Royal Enfield Interceptor any day over that
Why can't I find Mash motorcycles in California
Sorry....we do get some cool bikes
Think yourself lucky, I have owned a MASH, very poor quality, and yes when I bought it, I expected to keep it. So bad I didn't! eventual trade in was as expected, unwanted and worthless.
@@gerryattrickbiker Which Mash was it?
6.5 CL= 6.5 CC. There are 100 CL in a L.
أَفَرَأَيْتَ إِن مَّتَّعْنَاهُمْ سِنِينَ (٢٠٥) ثُمَّ جَاءَهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُوعَدُونَ (٢٠٦) مَا أَغْنَىٰ عَنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُمَتَّعُونَ (٢٠٧) الشعراء
Then have you considered if We gave them enjoyment for years, And then there came to them that which they were promised?
They would not be availed by the enjoyment with which they were provided. (Quran 26 :205-207)
But....is it 'phenomenal' ?
hahahaha....quite possibly
Turn the music off - then I might watch.
It was for 1 minute whilst showing the bike otherwise it would have just been 1 minutes of no noise, just video of the bike...cinematics don't work like that and quiet music whilst out riding so you couldn't hear wind noise but you could still clearly hear the bike...par for the course really.
Yea hideous headlight, and too black, nearly a nice bike but the 650 X Ride is cooler looking.
Welease woderwick pmsl
Wtf is that headlamp all about? Hideous.
The music really sucks
one for malc ruclips.net/video/94C5cPZvd6w/видео.html
Moto Morini Strada 3½
Yes very good, that's annoying too ;)
Tubed tyres............no thanks!
I like to tour,why don't you give a realistic test on cruising speeds,not top speeds.
One and two up.
Get rid of Malcolm,and stop trying to be funny,just give proper tests.
The front end reminds me of the 1980s Honda XL series (185, 250, 500). Didn't like on them either. Rest of the bike looks great though.