One minor correction: the thing that really killed the game was that it’s lead programmer for the boss engine that the game was now built around, Christina Coffin, came down with severe pneumonia in the final stretch of development, basically ensuring it would miss the deadline. That’s essentially what made Mike Wallace to tell SEGA the game wouldn’t be out on time and led to its cancellation
Sadly this happens to art students in college as well - My buddy got kidney failure after spending 2 weeks awake finishing up his final art portfolio. So much stress! The key is to balance work, sleep and study (regardless if the teachers tell you that you need to pull an all nighter or not). Life's short so please take care of your body, mind and soul if you are pursuing a creative field-you just might live to draw another day.
I am one of those convinced that X-Treme's spirit lives on in Lost World which is why I too like this game so much. It's wacky but fun once people give it a try. Also I once played a X-Treme PC fangame that actually felt pretty accurate which I ever since couldn't find anymore.
Sega of Japan was always hostile to Sega of America since ever. It's one of the reasons they almost went bankrupt and had to quite the hardware business.
@@DarkScorpion64 Yeah because many of these big name Japanese companies don't understand international markets and how they work at all, former President and CEO of SEGA of Japan Hayao Nakayama learned that lesson the hard way when he ignored Tom Kalinske and even HIS OWN HAND PICKED liaison for SEGA of America Shinobu Toyoda and launched the Saturn 4 months earlier than originally planned, a launch I might add that had next to no software library and one that completely alienated some of the biggest retailers around so those companies couldn't even capitalize on the launch at all which really soured relationships between SEGA and many of those retailers for a very long time. People like to say that Yuji Naka's actions regarding STI using the Nights engine to make Sonic Xtreme as what doomed the Saturn, and while I won't deny that his actions made an already bad situation even worse, the truth of the matter is the Saturn was already DOA in the US because of Hayao Nakayama, he alone doomed the Saturn in the US before it even had a chance and he alone deserves the blame for that.
@@superrayman3 I mean its not like Tom didn't help in killing it by pushing for the creation of the 32X when he know that the Saturn was already in development and he couldn't even get people to buy the Sega CD before it. Never mind that the very next CEO of SoA literally refused to import any of the high profile games like Megaman 8 or Castalvania Symphony of the night or really any of the dozens of Saturn exclusive JRPG's simply because he didn't believe in the system. Or to put it more simply pretty much everyone that had something to say at Sega as a whole between 1995 to 1997 was an idiot even if there weren't ones before or after it but there certainly were it during this time frame.
Chris Senn is a poor soul he nearly killed hinself thank's to this game, and years latter he had his chance with another Sonic game... The Game: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
@@PosthumanHeresy I mean, I guess? But treatment of the working class and and the American prison system are different problems that both need to be addressed. Even if they're similar, they are separate. Prisoners go through hell with absolutely no consent, for things as small as drug offences, while workers go through hell to put food on the table and keep from going homeless.
@@funkylittlespacecowboy2372 Yeah, that was basically my point. America is a giant prison where you're forced to submit to torment or else die. Whether the prisons or the streets, the rules are the same. Suffer until death willingly or suffer until a much sooner death unwillingly.
@@lowqualityvideos8091 and that game is still better than Forces, which took 4 years to develop, 2 years for Hedgehog Engine 2, 1 year of concepts, 1 year of actual game design
@@japhreal There was also originally Sonic Z treme, which was made for the saturn directly and while it doesn't really look like the original since sonic uses a low poly model and the scrolling isn't that fast, it still has the same isometric like gameplay and the fast speed of sonic. The game was cancelled though because of toxic sonic fans shitting on the dev's work with no constructive criticism.
@@Turbulation1 even tough the sonic xtreme unity remake is more faithful than project z treme, project z treme could run on a real Saturn which is very impressive. I suggest that for the full experience to check out both.
My friend's father was an artist who worked on Sonic Extreme. In the fourth grade I was lucky enough to be invited to visit Sega of America's "Take your kid to work day." My friend's father showed us two enemies he was working on for the game. The first was a short, one wheeled robot that tossed a spiked ball into the air. The second was a bowling pin shaped mummy. My friend's dad let his son and I vote on which version of the mummy he would put into the game. The first skinned version had its eyes peeking out of the top of the bowling pin where a typical head would be. The second skin had bigger eyes on the mid section of the bowling pin shaped body where the stomach would be. The best part was the animation. The sarcophagus would open revealing the mummy. inside the door was a roll of toilet paper. The bowling pin shaped mummy would then waddle out of the sarcophagus. Of course, being 10 year old boys, My friend and I picked the mummy with the toilet paper roll on the inside of its sarcophagus door. I also got to go on a tour of Sega. A highlight of the tour was when we were led to room that had a ton of swanky wood panels and nice seating. On the wall was a large screen (projector?) they dimmed the lights and they showed us a game for the sega saturn called "Nights." The other memory that sticks out was that Sega was housed in two buildings. The Second building held the game testers. The testers showed us a tank game of some sort (it was first person. I can't remember the name). The second building had a sega gift shop with t-shirts and swag for sale and an Arcade. All the arcades were on free-to-play mode so I got to play virtual cop with two guns (my parents would never give me two bucks to play an arcade game. Basically it was 10 year old Sega fan boy heaven for me). If any one else worked at sega or was a kid who got to go to sega back in the 90's please post your story! If there was drama at Sega during the time I took my tour, I never would have known. Thank you to the staff at Sega for putting together such a wonderful tour and experience for the kids in the 90's - That tour was the Highlight of my youth.
@@flamewind6558 So glad I got to share my experience with you! I didn't realize at the time that my friends father was none other that Andrew Probert - creator of back to the futures time traveling Delorean and Star trek next generation's Star Ship enterprise. I knew he could draw, but damn! I wanted to be an artist when I was in the fourth grade and when I went to my friends house I would just stare at his father drawing museums in isometric perspective. I just couldn't believe there was an artist better than me at the time ( I was 10 years old, lol) I'm incredibly fortunate I got to hang out with David and his father, Andrew, in the 1990's. Thanks for listening to my story :D
@@davidwickman6272 its way past cool to hear such awesome stories! Your friend's father is a great artist for sure! I bet your drawings were very cool too!
I usually find scrapped or unreleased games really interesting and want to play them but this one looked like such a headache to play. Simple jumps are clearly hard to pull off if you don't eye ball it correctly. I'm not in love with modern sonic but they clearly went in a better direction as far a game play physics
These are all very neat, but it seems that there’s no mention of POV, which was a third party company that was supposed to help with the development of Sonic X-Treme by porting the PC version to the Saturn. They even made an entire prototype that tried to save the project, but I think this was very late in development and didn’t survive for long.
He also didn't even mention the saturn version of sonic 3d blast which was supposed to be the replacement for sonic x treme in the holiday of 1996, when it was gonna be cancelled in 1997.
Does anyone remember back in the day when YuriOfWind made a Gaming Mysteries on this game? For real though, it's so bizarre to think of how much lost media has grown in interest over the past couple of years. Unreleased games and other such media have always been a passion of mine, and it's heartwarming to see more people sharing that passion. Also, I would love to see the sort of fish-eye style gameplay reinvented in another game, especially a Sonic one. I doubt Sega would bless us with a Star Fox 2 scenario since this game literally does not exist, but hey, I'm all for something that plays like this!!
Fun fact: A build close enough to what you see in those trailers where the game looks somewhat complete and playable has been shown off in a way. It's the level editor and it has a built in test mode, it's almost like the trailers but the downside is that it only runs on Windows 95. The guy that owns it apparently wanted to try and port it to modern Windows but that would be hard to do since he doesn't have the source code.
You have to do a video talking about the stuff this game was going to have like stories, characters, enemies, levels. I can already see the video name. “ Lost Lost Bits of Sonic X-tream “
How about the most obscure sonic game we never got, the one based on sonic SATAM. It had running and stealth sections as well as most of the SATAM character returning? :D
As you said, there were hardware limitations and that's essentially the major reason why they couldn't achieve the potential they wanted at the time. I could talk about the failure of the Saturn all day but my point is that Sonic Xtreme is a concept they could've still made when the Dreamcast existed. Some ideas just require more creativity and horsepower to get the job done but SEGA unfortunately didn't take enough time to realize that. They literally wasted more money and time pushing out consoles that became obsolete, while competing with others, and assuring they're still releasing games to a growing market. What they should do is reproduce it or conjoin it with another game so it's not totally lost in history forever.
Another excellent video! I've heard about this before, but I love another fresh spin in things. Man, I really had high hopes for this game as a child. One of the reasons I never bought a Sega Saturn new. At some point I briefly owned what was an affordable used Saturn from Funcoland, but the system was in serious need of some blue spinning love.
I believe it was called Sonic: Wonders of the World. I don’t remember much about it, but I do remember something about eggman making an amusement park.
You know what would have been good? A classic Sonic came on the Saturn which was a fantastic machine for 2D sprite games. Could have had some awesome sprite scaling special stages between the most colourful and beautifully animated zones we’ve even seen. Oh well.
It's kinda odd that since Sonic 3D blast had a great visual appearance, that another Sonic game couldn't have been made on the x32 or Saturn. But in some ways maybe it was for the best, because Sonic Adventure on the Dreamcast was a great experience that prolly wouldn't have been the same on earlier hardware.
The game had so much potential! They could have not shown it to the public and then took another 1 year to make it, and then in the mean while to keep fans waiting, they just port 3D blast to the Saturn and keep development going. If you want to play some of the game on unity, there is a fan game that’s called “Sonic X-treme Unity” and its a good rebuild of the game using unity! It was even in this years Sage so if you want to “play” this game, I recommend going to download that game!
man, this game looks so fucking cool, like, i mean the blurry videos of it, the vids that show when youre talking looks just unfinished and sad and really buggy, i wanna live in the alternate universe where sonic x-treme was a complete success
Oh my god I asked you to cover this game during one of your streams I have crapped myself because I never expected you to actually do it This video is like some form of dream come true in a literal sense, and it makes me happy that you actually covered it because nobody's actually been paying that much attention to the game in recent years, and this is one of my most favorite unreleased Sonic games, since it was supposed to be the rival to Super Mario 64, being Sonic's first fully fledged 3D game. By the way, I'd definitely love with all my heart to see you look at the prototype (and even possibly the level editor or even the website you mentioned here) in full depth, kind of like what you did with those Nintendo 64 Tech Demos you showed. It would make me even happier than the word itself could ever even describe to see you do it. and one more thing - In one edition of Nights Into Dreams, specifically the Christmas Version, had an actual Sonic level where you played as the blue blur himself, and even fought Robotnik at the end. it was sorta like what Sonic X-Treme was considered to be, a 2.5D level. the level might have been a reused idea (or even the leftovers) from when they were using the NIGHTS tools to make Sonic X-Treme.
No, Sonic Xtreme was actually a 3D port of the Sonic Tiger Game all along, it was just canceled because they realized how shitty Tiger was and their games
can you cover more lost bits about console prototype like newer ones like wii or nintendo switch lost bits 😉😉 even wii u or 3ds last time you did was a gamecube and n64
i always felt like had sonic xtreme came out it would be remembered as that mediocre attempt at 3d on a console no one owned. so pretty much top ten fodder and a footnote in a sonic retrospective.
Aww, for a moment I thought you would talk about Sonic 3's original 3D rendition. I guess information on that is relatively scarce compared to the wealth of straight up development documentation dumped out by Senn years back.
Kinda wish he mentioned that the saturn version of sonic 3d blast because it was pretty much the replacement for sonic x treme when it got cancelled in the holiday season of 1996, the special stages of that version where also used by the nights engine and were gonna be used to make another cancelled sonic game, called sonic pool.
I feel awful for Chris Senn. Sonic X-Treme, Project S... Technically speaking, that's two projects that ended up being cancelled. The one time a Sonic game he worked on got released, and it ended up being Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. Another game that got heavilly meddled with by executives, counting the disastrous decision to make a game that was meant to run on a next-gen console (and made with CryEngine 3), and not for a (more or less) beefed up Wii, which IMO sounds like it would've been close to a repeat of the earlier development nightmare.
The missed opportunity to have made a stunning 2D Sonic on 32X or Saturn. I just think a Sonic as damn beautiful as say Astal. As a kid then tho even I was swept up in the 3D craze. That craze cost us a lot of what could have been 2D masterpieces. Damn mid 90s.
Just imagine that the team had the more polished build on hand when the older one was deemed insufficient. I wonder if the specific people responsible for not having it lost a ton of sleep over that day alone... That's the kind of thing that brings you nightmares of Sonic running down a pitch-black, glitchy corridor with a fish-eye lens, only for you to look away from the screen and realize the corridor is all around you.
somehow it could work. the levels just need to have similar level design like sonic 2 in terms of increasing speed through the levels. The fisheye lens is such an original concept. it truly is a shame sega let go of that concept and never used it for a cool explorational game after the game's cancelation.
The hell that the Sonic Xtreme developers went through sounds even WORSE than the hell that Sonic fans go through with Sonic games in general, I didn't even think that was possible
One month ago I was thinking to myself: "Someone should make an entire video about Sonic Xtreme in english", since the best one I knew was in portuguese (and not everyone can understand that). I also thought: "Since Cybershell almost never uploads, TetraBitGaming would be a good fit for the video." Anyways, thanks for fulfilling my thoughts, I guess? Kkkk
If you want to talk about the prototypes, I'd rather see you talk about fan efforts to restore/finish the game. I remember there being several over the years.
Fun fact, the movie that was going to go with extreme was called “sonic the hedgehog wonder of the worlds” basicly the plot was that this kid was struggling with his parents divorce and then sonic came out of the game so as eggman. Sonic then gets captured by eggman and this kid gets op powers. Then at the end they was gonna do some sonic x ending crap.
I’ll never understand why Yuji Naka was so perturbed about the NiGHTS engine being used. He played a role in what could have potentially been the biggest game yet for his own character failing.
Another reason the Sonic Xtreme movie (Sonic the Hedgehog: wonders of the world) was cancelled was because some people started to suggest changes like swaping Robotnik for a new villain.
I also heard there was originally gonna be a movie that uses this game. The plot of the movie is is sonic comes out of the game and the boy playing the game seem sonic and they try to do things to bring sonic back inside the tv. This sounds like a imaginable movie.
It’s a shame we never got this game. It would have been a great game. Luckily there are some fan-made projects out there that try to guess how it could have been, even though it would never be the same thing as how intended by the actual developers. Just THINK how many things would have changed for SEGA if the game was actually released
Sonic was not the only game sega wanted to make into a 3D title before they even could. they also wanted to make a 3D Streets Of Rage game in 1994 titled "Streets Of Rage 4" (not to be confused with the newer "Streets Of Rage 4" on the switch)
Chris Senn was a nice guy to talk to back when he had his site up based all on X-Treme and it was a blast, i know somewhere i got all of the site on a usb somewhere still looking for it i know i have it as i always made sure it was on my hard drives i own
I like how he skips in the description giving credit to the guys who worked very hard resting the code and levels and who leaked the builds he’s using in the video lol
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One minor correction: the thing that really killed the game was that it’s lead programmer for the boss engine that the game was now built around, Christina Coffin, came down with severe pneumonia in the final stretch of development, basically ensuring it would miss the deadline. That’s essentially what made Mike Wallace to tell SEGA the game wouldn’t be out on time and led to its cancellation
Good to know also I'm a year late😐
Sega Technical Institute has one of the most unfortunate acronyms ever
@Alex McDonald Got the acronym, but what's the company?.
@@toumabyakuya3498 The company's name is literally just STD. Not an acronym.
@@dolomite1067 What. The. Fuck?. What do they do?.
@@toumabyakuya3498 They made accessories for video game consoles. The AVGN covered one of them in his "Game Boy Accessories" video.
Could be worse. They could be Sega Technological Division...
What irked me about Sonic X-Treme was it's essentially a third Bug! game, but using a fish eye lens, Sonic's even an unlockable character in Bug!
Well, since I loved Bug I think would love Sonic X-Treme as well
What are u saying?
Interesting
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haha aren't i funny
This game wasn't cancelled! Sonic was running so fast that he accidentally moved the release date to 3095.
Interesting...
Nice!
Lol
ohhhhhhhhhhhh that explains it!
Hahahaha can’t wait for 3095 to play it 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😫😫😫😩😤😤😟
Sonic was so fast on this game, it broke reality and manage to not exist.
Lol
lol
@@jevil187 whyd you put lol twice
@@twurti ...
@@twurti It was a bug.
Can you imagine working so hard on a Sonic game that a doctor tells you you only have 6 months to live. That guy probably had nightmares about Sonic
Thus the creation of sonic.exe lolol
@@soniccity8892 haha…. Unfunny asf
"Hey, man! Remember, it comes out in December!"
[Spindashes through your skull]
And yet sonic would get the model made for x treme would be used for sonic schoolhouse
Sonic Xtreme had some potential, especially with the side scrolling rotation design.
And sonic extreme was a skating game
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Don't think I didn't notice the music transition into the first few notes of Meet the Flintstones before cutting off.
lmao same
ima be honest im happy tetra is using siIva gunner’s music :)
Okay, it's definitely memes then.
"The game was officially dead." *flinestones theme*
I cant believe someone almost died developing this game. That's dedication.
and pressure, a lot of pressure
Its why we need unions for videogame developers
Someone died while working on Panzer Dragoon Saga, and that game was still released.
Lol
Sadly this happens to art students in college as well - My buddy got kidney failure after spending 2 weeks awake finishing up his final art portfolio. So much stress! The key is to balance work, sleep and study (regardless if the teachers tell you that you need to pull an all nighter or not). Life's short so please take care of your body, mind and soul if you are pursuing a creative field-you just might live to draw another day.
I guess some games just never see the light of day...
Because you are faster then the speed of light
Blameitonjorge: *Not on my watch*
EEE E O O O O O OAP
Sonic lost world: 😢
"The sonic game we never got" which one lol
The Sonic Extreme One
@@wingtart2466 which one?
X Treme not extreme
Sonic Adventure 3 and sonic generations 2
Well technically that sentence is correct because its game not "games"
I am one of those convinced that X-Treme's spirit lives on in Lost World which is why I too like this game so much.
It's wacky but fun once people give it a try.
Also I once played a X-Treme PC fangame that actually felt pretty accurate which I ever since couldn't find anymore.
Yuji Naka was kind of a brat about the code. He made it on SEGA's time, so it wasn't his to exclusively use.
He doomed the Saturn.
Sega of Japan was always hostile to Sega of America since ever. It's one of the reasons they almost went bankrupt and had to quite the hardware business.
@@DarkScorpion64 Yeah because many of these big name Japanese companies don't understand international markets and how they work at all, former President and CEO of SEGA of Japan Hayao Nakayama learned that lesson the hard way when he ignored Tom Kalinske and even HIS OWN HAND PICKED liaison for SEGA of America Shinobu Toyoda and launched the Saturn 4 months earlier than originally planned, a launch I might add that had next to no software library and one that completely alienated some of the biggest retailers around so those companies couldn't even capitalize on the launch at all which really soured relationships between SEGA and many of those retailers for a very long time.
People like to say that Yuji Naka's actions regarding STI using the Nights engine to make Sonic Xtreme as what doomed the Saturn, and while I won't deny that his actions made an already bad situation even worse, the truth of the matter is the Saturn was already DOA in the US because of Hayao Nakayama, he alone doomed the Saturn in the US before it even had a chance and he alone deserves the blame for that.
@@superrayman3 I mean its not like Tom didn't help in killing it by pushing for the creation of the 32X when he know that the Saturn was already in development and he couldn't even get people to buy the Sega CD before it.
Never mind that the very next CEO of SoA literally refused to import any of the high profile games like Megaman 8 or Castalvania Symphony of the night or really any of the dozens of Saturn exclusive JRPG's simply because he didn't believe in the system.
Or to put it more simply pretty much everyone that had something to say at Sega as a whole between 1995 to 1997 was an idiot even if there weren't ones before or after it but there certainly were it during this time frame.
There. I edited both my replies so we can stop arguing and move on with our lives.
I was just researching about Sonic Xtreme. Development was a really interesting topic, and the game looked really neat
Really "huh neat".
Game looks like actual garbage to play, with slippery controls, tight blocky platforming, and no momentum whatsoever
@@evdestroy5304 Not really. Fan projects that recreate the game exactly help see that the game might have actually been good
For more infomation About X-treme's cancellation, Watch The Documentary from A series called Art of Failure m.ruclips.net/video/Dey1U74RWuA/видео.html
@@harshal1153 Yeah exactly it "might have" been good, those projects aren't that good either and i'm pretty sure they're all also unfinished.
Chris Senn is a poor soul he nearly killed hinself thank's to this game, and years latter he had his chance with another Sonic game...
The Game:
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
Poor dude
Honestly I don’t care if it was a bad game. I personally enjoy Rise Of Lyric 😂😂
(I like glitchy games.. no wonder 06 is in my top 5)
@@CrossmareGirlOvia2007 I enjoy Sonic R and Jam
I liked ROL, but 06 is just too bad.
I guess I like Rise of Lyric and Adventure 2
you see "dedication" i see "imprisonment and torture"
What's the difference in America? Slavery as punishment for a crime is still legal and common.
@@PosthumanHeresy I mean, I guess? But treatment of the working class and and the American prison system are different problems that both need to be addressed. Even if they're similar, they are separate. Prisoners go through hell with absolutely no consent, for things as small as drug offences, while workers go through hell to put food on the table and keep from going homeless.
@@funkylittlespacecowboy2372 Yeah, that was basically my point. America is a giant prison where you're forced to submit to torment or else die. Whether the prisons or the streets, the rules are the same. Suffer until death willingly or suffer until a much sooner death unwillingly.
@@PosthumanHeresy I know, I live here.
@@PosthumanHeresythat’s not nice i live there
The Sonic Mars mockup footage is fascinating if you haven't seen it, though it was never actually implemented.
Thank god Sega announced recently that they were gonna be more lenient with time when developing games. I mean, damn- what if that lad actually died
honestly im scared to find out how sonic unleashed was developed in a year (not inculding creation of the hedgehog engine)
@@lowqualityvideos8091 and that game is still better than Forces, which took 4 years to develop, 2 years for Hedgehog Engine 2, 1 year of concepts, 1 year of actual game design
i heard someone is working to recreate parts of it.
Sonic x treme unity is
@@japhreal There was also originally Sonic Z treme, which was made for the saturn directly and while it doesn't really look like the original since sonic uses a low poly model and the scrolling isn't that fast, it still has the same isometric like gameplay and the fast speed of sonic. The game was cancelled though because of toxic sonic fans shitting on the dev's work with no constructive criticism.
@@Turbulation1 even tough the sonic xtreme unity remake is more faithful than project z treme, project z treme could run on a real Saturn which is very impressive.
I suggest that for the full experience to check out both.
Axsx is another project
@@anonheart it only has a demo now but I've heard that It's still in development. I wonder how it will turn out.
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Pencilmation?
@@KickyBuddy, no?
@@KickyBuddy nah.
@@thecannedslap bruh 2 people had said nah to me
@@KickyBuddycause you're wrong
My friend's father was an artist who worked on Sonic Extreme. In the fourth grade I was lucky enough to be invited to visit Sega of America's "Take your kid to work day." My friend's father showed us two enemies he was working on for the game. The first was a short, one wheeled robot that tossed a spiked ball into the air. The second was a bowling pin shaped mummy. My friend's dad let his son and I vote on which version of the mummy he would put into the game. The first skinned version had its eyes peeking out of the top of the bowling pin where a typical head would be. The second skin had bigger eyes on the mid section of the bowling pin shaped body where the stomach would be. The best part was the animation. The sarcophagus would open revealing the mummy. inside the door was a roll of toilet paper. The bowling pin shaped mummy would then waddle out of the sarcophagus. Of course, being 10 year old boys, My friend and I picked the mummy with the toilet paper roll on the inside of its sarcophagus door.
I also got to go on a tour of Sega. A highlight of the tour was when we were led to room that had a ton of swanky wood panels and nice seating. On the wall was a large screen (projector?) they dimmed the lights and they showed us a game for the sega saturn called "Nights."
The other memory that sticks out was that Sega was housed in two buildings. The Second building held the game testers. The testers showed us a tank game of some sort (it was first person. I can't remember the name). The second building had a sega gift shop with t-shirts and swag for sale and an Arcade. All the arcades were on free-to-play mode so I got to play virtual cop with two guns (my parents would never give me two bucks to play an arcade game. Basically it was 10 year old Sega fan boy heaven for me).
If any one else worked at sega or was a kid who got to go to sega back in the 90's please post your story!
If there was drama at Sega during the time I took my tour, I never would have known. Thank you to the staff at Sega for putting together such a wonderful tour and experience for the kids in the 90's - That tour was the Highlight of my youth.
Woah thats real fucking neat!
@@flamewind6558 So glad I got to share my experience with you! I didn't realize at the time that my friends father was none other that Andrew Probert - creator of back to the futures time traveling Delorean and Star trek next generation's Star Ship enterprise. I knew he could draw, but damn! I wanted to be an artist when I was in the fourth grade and when I went to my friends house I would just stare at his father drawing museums in isometric perspective. I just couldn't believe there was an artist better than me at the time ( I was 10 years old, lol) I'm incredibly fortunate I got to hang out with David and his father, Andrew, in the 1990's. Thanks for listening to my story :D
@@davidwickman6272 its way past cool to hear such awesome stories! Your friend's father is a great artist for sure! I bet your drawings were very cool too!
Cool!
yeah, that didn’t happen
I couldn't afford a superchat during the stream, but you earned a cool exile point for being epic. It was fun tetra!
Appreciate it!
Project Sonic Xtreme Unity is actually trying to recreate the game accurately and it looks great!
Hopefully they don't make the same mistake of badly placed deadlines, and bad decisions.
I usually find scrapped or unreleased games really interesting and want to play them but this one looked like such a headache to play. Simple jumps are clearly hard to pull off if you don't eye ball it correctly. I'm not in love with modern sonic but they clearly went in a better direction as far a game play physics
That was a very douchy move by Yuji Naka and it proved that he was more ego than willing to help out.
These are all very neat, but it seems that there’s no mention of POV, which was a third party company that was supposed to help with the development of Sonic X-Treme by porting the PC version to the Saturn. They even made an entire prototype that tried to save the project, but I think this was very late in development and didn’t survive for long.
He also didn't even mention the saturn version of sonic 3d blast which was supposed to be the replacement for sonic x treme in the holiday of 1996, when it was gonna be cancelled in 1997.
Thanks for reminding me that instead of watching Star Wars Death Star explosions clips I can just rewind with tetra bit gaming
Does anyone remember back in the day when YuriOfWind made a Gaming Mysteries on this game? For real though, it's so bizarre to think of how much lost media has grown in interest over the past couple of years. Unreleased games and other such media have always been a passion of mine, and it's heartwarming to see more people sharing that passion. Also, I would love to see the sort of fish-eye style gameplay reinvented in another game, especially a Sonic one. I doubt Sega would bless us with a Star Fox 2 scenario since this game literally does not exist, but hey, I'm all for something that plays like this!!
Fun fact: A build close enough to what you see in those trailers where the game looks somewhat complete and playable has been shown off in a way.
It's the level editor and it has a built in test mode, it's almost like the trailers but the downside is that it only runs on Windows 95.
The guy that owns it apparently wanted to try and port it to modern Windows but that would be hard to do since he doesn't have the source code.
The Game Was Too X-treme for this world
You have to do a video talking about the stuff this game was going to have like stories, characters, enemies, levels. I can already see the video name. “ Lost Lost Bits of Sonic X-tream “
I like how some people have tried recreating the prototype levels of X-Treme in Sonic Robo Blast 2, given their similar aesthetics
This game looked like it had alot of potential
it did
How about the most obscure sonic game we never got, the one based on sonic SATAM.
It had running and stealth sections as well as most of the SATAM character returning? :D
Please make a lost bits about the prototypes.
I agree
We never knew what the game would actually have. Your comment makes no sense, joke or not.
@@nd_4726 it’s not that hard
Just explore the files of the prototype and see what we haven’t seen
@@slotnonaquayt By that, I mean the full game never came out, so we can't compare anything because we never know if that's the final design or not.
@@nd_4726 We can compare between the different prototypes by the engine type and what we can see
As you said, there were hardware limitations and that's essentially the major reason why they couldn't achieve the potential they wanted at the time. I could talk about the failure of the Saturn all day but my point is that Sonic Xtreme is a concept they could've still made when the Dreamcast existed. Some ideas just require more creativity and horsepower to get the job done but SEGA unfortunately didn't take enough time to realize that. They literally wasted more money and time pushing out consoles that became obsolete, while competing with others, and assuring they're still releasing games to a growing market. What they should do is reproduce it or conjoin it with another game so it's not totally lost in history forever.
1:04 Bubsy: What Could Pawssibly go wrong.
Another excellent video! I've heard about this before, but I love another fresh spin in things.
Man, I really had high hopes for this game as a child. One of the reasons I never bought a Sega Saturn new.
At some point I briefly owned what was an affordable used Saturn from Funcoland, but the system was in serious need of some blue spinning love.
You heard it by the first comment, it's approved by a turle
Turtle approved
And he's got pretty high standards, too.
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imagine this christmas or next year sega have a livestream to introduce new games and it was sonic X-treme
Fun fact: there was a canceled sonic movie around sonic x-treme in development before being canceled
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I was just about to comment that!
I believe it was called Sonic: Wonders of the World. I don’t remember much about it, but I do remember something about eggman making an amusement park.
@@StupidlyStupid you’re CORRECT! Congratulations
We know
I'm glad that SXU exists . We can finally play this game when it is finished.
You know what would have been good? A classic Sonic came on the Saturn which was a fantastic machine for 2D sprite games. Could have had some awesome sprite scaling special stages between the most colourful and beautifully animated zones we’ve even seen. Oh well.
It's kinda odd that since Sonic 3D blast had a great visual appearance, that another Sonic game couldn't have been made on the x32 or Saturn. But in some ways maybe it was for the best, because Sonic Adventure on the Dreamcast was a great experience that prolly wouldn't have been the same on earlier hardware.
Seems like this is a new Mystery Bit right now.
20 hours a day? Living in the office? That's not dedication, that's paid slavery.
Epic video bro :D!!!
The game had so much potential! They could have not shown it to the public and then took another 1 year to make it, and then in the mean while to keep fans waiting, they just port 3D blast to the Saturn and keep development going. If you want to play some of the game on unity, there is a fan game that’s called “Sonic X-treme Unity” and its a good rebuild of the game using unity! It was even in this years Sage so if you want to “play” this game, I recommend going to download that game!
man, this game looks so fucking cool, like, i mean the blurry videos of it, the vids that show when youre talking looks just unfinished and sad and really buggy, i wanna live in the alternate universe where sonic x-treme was a complete success
Oh my god I asked you to cover this game during one of your streams
I have crapped myself because I never expected you to actually do it
This video is like some form of dream come true in a literal sense, and it makes me happy that you actually covered it because nobody's actually been paying that much attention to the game in recent years, and this is one of my most favorite unreleased Sonic games, since it was supposed to be the rival to Super Mario 64, being Sonic's first fully fledged 3D game.
By the way, I'd definitely love with all my heart to see you look at the prototype (and even possibly the level editor or even the website you mentioned here) in full depth, kind of like what you did with those Nintendo 64 Tech Demos you showed. It would make me even happier than the word itself could ever even describe to see you do it.
and one more thing - In one edition of Nights Into Dreams, specifically the Christmas Version, had an actual Sonic level where you played as the blue blur himself, and even fought Robotnik at the end. it was sorta like what Sonic X-Treme was considered to be, a 2.5D level. the level might have been a reused idea (or even the leftovers) from when they were using the NIGHTS tools to make Sonic X-Treme.
A lost bit on "Night in the Woods" would be awesome, probably will never happen tho...
No, Sonic Xtreme was actually a 3D port of the Sonic Tiger Game all along, it was just canceled because they realized how shitty Tiger was and their games
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can you cover more lost bits about console prototype like newer ones like wii or nintendo switch lost bits 😉😉 even wii u or 3ds last time you did was a gamecube and n64
i always felt like had sonic xtreme came out it would be remembered as that mediocre attempt at 3d on a console no one owned.
so pretty much top ten fodder and a footnote in a sonic retrospective.
"What can go wrong?"
Oh you know, only the everything
The nights into dreams bit made me think of the story of duke nukem forever
Wow, imagine not letting people in your own company use your work. So much for team spirit...
I think it would have been cool to see this game actually come out, its a cool idea and I think sonic is a good fit for it too.
Aww, for a moment I thought you would talk about Sonic 3's original 3D rendition. I guess information on that is relatively scarce compared to the wealth of straight up development documentation dumped out by Senn years back.
You know, there is a fan game called Sonic Robo Blast 2 that used the Sonic’s sprites from Sonic Xtreme for some of their beta builds.
Kinda wish he mentioned that the saturn version of sonic 3d blast because it was pretty much the replacement for sonic x treme when it got cancelled in the holiday season of 1996, the special stages of that version where also used by the nights engine and were gonna be used to make another cancelled sonic game, called sonic pool.
I feel awful for Chris Senn. Sonic X-Treme, Project S... Technically speaking, that's two projects that ended up being cancelled.
The one time a Sonic game he worked on got released, and it ended up being Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. Another game that got heavilly meddled with by executives, counting the disastrous decision to make a game that was meant to run on a next-gen console (and made with CryEngine 3), and not for a (more or less) beefed up Wii, which IMO sounds like it would've been close to a repeat of the earlier development nightmare.
I kid you not, right after you said "what could go wrong" my RUclips app crashed
Got to love how sega cancels this but still decides elise kissing sonic was a good idea.
At least they care about their fans
"Care" is a strong word
@@zachatck64 i mean boom show was ok
It cause sonix devintart community to exist
@@jytvreal uh, no. The blame for that rests solely on the shoulders of the creators of Sally Acorn.
I'm a former game tester and you bet I'd love to see more of the prototypes
Please talk about the leaked prototypes!
This game is already one big lost bit
The missed opportunity to have made a stunning 2D Sonic on 32X or Saturn. I just think a Sonic as damn beautiful as say Astal. As a kid then tho even I was swept up in the 3D craze. That craze cost us a lot of what could have been 2D masterpieces. Damn mid 90s.
8:05 Oh you thought you could slip GRAND DAD past me?
Would love to see more of this.
I honestly wish we would’ve have got this game I mean I wasn’t alive but from what I’ve seen it looked good
"the sonic game that never came out " you have no idea how little that narrows it down
The background music on this entire video is a case for sonic music dominance
Just imagine that the team had the more polished build on hand when the older one was deemed insufficient. I wonder if the specific people responsible for not having it lost a ton of sleep over that day alone... That's the kind of thing that brings you nightmares of Sonic running down a pitch-black, glitchy corridor with a fish-eye lens, only for you to look away from the screen and realize the corridor is all around you.
We need a Rayman 2 lost bits
Please tetra, if you are reading this don’t leave my plumboi behind
I feel like this game would have helped the Saturn😔
somehow it could work. the levels just need to have similar level design like sonic 2 in terms of increasing speed through the levels. The fisheye lens is such an original concept. it truly is a shame sega let go of that concept and never used it for a cool explorational game after the game's cancelation.
In case of the Saturn, it would have meant delaying it's inevitable, early death.
The hell that the Sonic Xtreme developers went through sounds even WORSE than the hell that Sonic fans go through with Sonic games in general, I didn't even think that was possible
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What kind of Sonic Games? genesis and Adventure games aren’t that badly
@@jonahabenhaim1223 the newer ones
11:10 bro roasted Sega so hard
One month ago I was thinking to myself: "Someone should make an entire video about Sonic Xtreme in english", since the best one I knew was in portuguese (and not everyone can understand that).
I also thought: "Since Cybershell almost never uploads, TetraBitGaming would be a good fit for the video."
Anyways, thanks for fulfilling my thoughts, I guess? Kkkk
If you want to talk about the prototypes, I'd rather see you talk about fan efforts to restore/finish the game. I remember there being several over the years.
Fun fact, the movie that was going to go with extreme was called “sonic the hedgehog wonder of the worlds” basicly the plot was that this kid was struggling with his parents divorce and then sonic came out of the game so as eggman. Sonic then gets captured by eggman and this kid gets op powers. Then at the end they was gonna do some sonic x ending crap.
For those interested, someone called Miiyouandmii2 did a 3 part series on Sonic X-Treme that goes into much more detail. I seriously reccomend it.
To be fair having an institute named S.T.I probably wasn’t a good idea either.
This game supposed to have a movie
I’ll never understand why Yuji Naka was so perturbed about the NiGHTS engine being used. He played a role in what could have potentially been the biggest game yet for his own character failing.
Naka didn't make Sonic, oshima did. Naka was just a selfish coder working with oshima since sonic 1 thought 3
Sonic Xtreme wouldn’t have saved the Saturn ESPECIALLY WITH SUPER MARIO 64 RELEASING THAT YEAR but, I wish it did come out.
Another reason the Sonic Xtreme movie (Sonic the Hedgehog: wonders of the world) was cancelled was because some people started to suggest changes like swaping Robotnik for a new villain.
I also heard there was originally gonna be a movie that uses this game. The plot of the movie is is sonic comes out of the game and the boy playing the game seem sonic and they try to do things to bring sonic back inside the tv. This sounds like a imaginable movie.
This game is always fascinating to talk about. A pivotal loss at what could have been.
It’s a shame we never got this game. It would have been a great game. Luckily there are some fan-made projects out there that try to guess how it could have been, even though it would never be the same thing as how intended by the actual developers.
Just THINK how many things would have changed for SEGA if the game was actually released
'Sonic X-treme, back more 'X-TREME" than ever'
now in 3d
Sonic was not the only game sega wanted to make into a 3D title before they even could. they also wanted to make a 3D Streets Of Rage game in 1994 titled "Streets Of Rage 4" (not to be confused with the newer "Streets Of Rage 4" on the switch)
Hmmm the gravity seams USED!?! Oh, I get it. Sonic lost world
honestly, Sonic Xtreme looks like hell and i think the head of the sonic team at the time was right when he said "good luck"
Hats off to u and the devs of xtreme, hope they were ok.
Also hope we finde more protos of this game
Chris Senn was a nice guy to talk to back when he had his site up based all on X-Treme and it was a blast, i know somewhere i got all of the site on a usb somewhere still looking for it i know i have it as i always made sure it was on my hard drives i own
Sega is so weird to be literally fight each other to complete a product...and they wonder why Sony and Nintendo didn't see them as competition
I like how he skips in the description giving credit to the guys who worked very hard resting the code and levels and who leaked the builds he’s using in the video lol
sonic 3D (saturn/PC) was at least an endearing release. the music was amazing.
“the sonic game we never got”
is that supposed to nail it down?
We did get this game in the form of sonic adventure for the dream cast
With The news saying 32x no more and The Saturn not doing well they decided to bring it back to the Dreamcast