I think the substats are fine for the echoes… it kinda makes it more interesting in my opinion… but yes we should be able feed any echoes we want to feed to lvl them
For 3-cost echos, There’s 1/2 chances for the desire sonata effect and 1/10 for the desire main stats. With these probability, you have 1/20 chances to get your desire main stat and desire sonata. It’s about 5% chance. But just play the game and grind. This is a gacha game.
sure thats fair, I was just chattin shit off the top of my head. But I do think the amount of layers of RNG does make the system feel a little bad. Don’t get me wrong, I love grindy games, have been playing KMMOs and gacha for years. But between that 5%, substat rolls (flat #s and %), and the high lows vs low rolls, its a bit much no? Could possibly just get rid of the % spread on substats or even just the flat numbers and I would think that would make it feel more casual friendly, better, whatever word u wanna use
@@priqe true but there’s also the fact that echoes are pretty much infinitely farmable if you give it enough time and join enough worlds. In this game you can finish builds way faster than you do in any other gacha (that I’ve played at least).
I don't have a problem with 80/20 as I get mostly gold but now with databank lvl 21 it's not a problem anymore. One issue they could fix is let us tune echos without leveling them and maybe just maybe let us dismantle echos turning them to basic tuners since in the next patch they let us merge it turning into gold tuners. Even if they don't want to improve exp for echos , just by doing with the suggestion I have in mind. Eliminates the inefficiency but still requires players to grind keeping retention but its not as punishing as an MMO grind(KR MMO are grindy asf, played it since childhood many mmos before)
yeah there are definitely little tweeks that can be made that will make the system feel much better for sure!! And same, KR MMOs are the best MMOs imo 😂 pure suffering
Ey we get all 5stars next patch. So these guys don't have the space to complain:/. Its just dumb af Add : i dont mind the substat rng but i do mind the ridiculously low rate of dmg type on dmg set
@@arkabarma3286 also yea, maybe substat rng is fine, but something about it feels off or bad. i think its just the layer over layer over layer of RNG. Removing just one layer of RNG would definitely make it feel better
I don’t know if the quote applies but “If it’s not 100% accurate it’s 50% accurate” -Mandjtv. Because the two outcomes are purple and gold then 80/20 might not mean anything. You cannot get a 80% purple echo nor a 20% gold echo it is one or the other. Again I have no idea if the quote works for this scenario.
balancing financial books isn't even a class curriculum and you want statistics? they teach fractions and people are assuming fractions is the same as statistics because they miss the key word in the phrase, "of".
@@priqe Ty for the heart. Honestly the only thing I don't like about wuthering is how difficult is to get good echoes. I dropped genshin after years of playing for this same reason.
yeah I can def see it becoming a “chore” instead of a semi-enjoyable experience. I think theyre making some good changes with the data bank level and stuff. So I hope they continue this trend and listen to valid feedback!!!
excuse my yap thank u
what would you do to make the echo system feel better?
I think the substats are fine for the echoes… it kinda makes it more interesting in my opinion… but yes we should be able feed any echoes we want to feed to lvl them
dismantle lvl 0 echo into lvl up material and or tuner
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lmaoooo hell yea
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For 3-cost echos, There’s 1/2 chances for the desire sonata effect and 1/10 for the desire main stats. With these probability, you have 1/20 chances to get your desire main stat and desire sonata. It’s about 5% chance. But just play the game and grind. This is a gacha game.
sure thats fair, I was just chattin shit off the top of my head. But I do think the amount of layers of RNG does make the system feel a little bad. Don’t get me wrong, I love grindy games, have been playing KMMOs and gacha for years. But between that 5%, substat rolls (flat #s and %), and the high lows vs low rolls, its a bit much no? Could possibly just get rid of the % spread on substats or even just the flat numbers and I would think that would make it feel more casual friendly, better, whatever word u wanna use
@@priqe true but there’s also the fact that echoes are pretty much infinitely farmable if you give it enough time and join enough worlds. In this game you can finish builds way faster than you do in any other gacha (that I’ve played at least).
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this is playing as propaganda as they work the mines
I don't have a problem with 80/20 as I get mostly gold but now with databank lvl 21 it's not a problem anymore. One issue they could fix is let us tune echos without leveling them and maybe just maybe let us dismantle echos turning them to basic tuners since in the next patch they let us merge it turning into gold tuners. Even if they don't want to improve exp for echos , just by doing with the suggestion I have in mind. Eliminates the inefficiency but still requires players to grind keeping retention but its not as punishing as an MMO grind(KR MMO are grindy asf, played it since childhood many mmos before)
yeah there are definitely little tweeks that can be made that will make the system feel much better for sure!!
And same, KR MMOs are the best MMOs imo 😂 pure suffering
Ey we get all 5stars next patch. So these guys don't have the space to complain:/. Its just dumb af
Add : i dont mind the substat rng but i do mind the ridiculously low rate of dmg type on dmg set
the dev notes are a W imo, it at least addresses some of the problems i think!! i recorded this yesterday but still wanted to post lmao
@@priqe yea. It's good for the future. If they're listening and actively working, it's easier to stick to the game
@@arkabarma3286 also yea, maybe substat rng is fine, but something about it feels off or bad. i think its just the layer over layer over layer of RNG. Removing just one layer of RNG would definitely make it feel better
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I don’t know if the quote applies but “If it’s not 100% accurate it’s 50% accurate” -Mandjtv. Because the two outcomes are purple and gold then 80/20 might not mean anything. You cannot get a 80% purple echo nor a 20% gold echo it is one or the other. Again I have no idea if the quote works for this scenario.
balancing financial books isn't even a class curriculum and you want statistics? they teach fractions and people are assuming fractions is the same as statistics because they miss the key word in the phrase, "of".
It's a good thing for adding 100% gold rates for DB level 21 in 1.1
yeah thats sick for sure!!!
Variant is not a problem Cuz its easier to farm overworld and stuff XP YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS NEED MOREEEEEEEEE
I’m happy about this recent XP event for SUREEEE!!!!
just graduated and yeah we dont have statistics ☠️
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I think the problem is we got to gold echos way too fast making purple totally useless for most people
I would absolutely agree to that!
Agree
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@@priqe Ty for the heart. Honestly the only thing I don't like about wuthering is how difficult is to get good echoes. I dropped genshin after years of playing for this same reason.
yeah I can def see it becoming a “chore” instead of a semi-enjoyable experience. I think theyre making some good changes with the data bank level and stuff. So I hope they continue this trend and listen to valid feedback!!!