I grew up like this on my dad's farm in Tennessee. It's like living Amish...very Spartan, very homely. We raised our own food in a family community. Everyone worked and we shared money and responsibility. My father was our bank and we all loved and respected each other. May God bless Israel and watch over humanity.
You've fallen into their trap. They want you to believe there are only 2 sides and that you must choose to support one. It's all a set up, from all this Jewish propaganda you're suddenly seeing to the fact the spread Muslims across the globe to start a war without borders
I volunteered on two kibbutzim when I was 18, and traveled to Egypt and it was an amazing experience. Highly recommend it to anyone eligible for birthright, or even as a cheap way to do some traveling. It becomes a second family among the volunteers, and it’s truly a wonderful experience. I’m a Christian now, and would love to get back to Jerusalem and see all of the holy sights again.
@@mld4852 You can’t just stay in a foreign country indefinitely, genius. Why don’t people choose to live in any of the places they travel to? Please utilize some common sense and logic. Have you done any traveling? Where? Did you like it? Why don’t you live there? 😂
Though not Jewish myself, i as a South African, experienced my time of 12 months on Kibbutz Hulata in 1985 as a wonderful absolute highlight of my life. It remains that until today, 37 years later. I lost my heart 💓 in this wonderful country and nation of Israel, and have visited it at least 20 times since then as a tourist, discovering more and more of its ancient to modern history, and loving the Israeli way and the Hebrew language that binds it's people together
I lived on Kibbutz Kfar Giladi in 1982 and in 1988. Wonderful experience! I like the Kibbutz lifestyle - I felt I belonged within a strong, closely knit community. If i were young again, I would definitely go back and work and live there longer! I very highly recommend it to anyone looking for adventure and a broader perspective of the world and the people of the world, as volunteers from many countries often congregate on kibbutzim. It was truly fantastic!
Interesting that all the people mentioned at the beginning are all wealthy celebrities and/or politicians. I’m not sure they still live by the socialist “share the wealth” ideals today. Bernie Sanders talks a good game, but he’s a wealthy man, living a privileged life. It seems any group starting out as socialist inevitably leads to a capitalist lifestyle. It’s human nature to want to keep what you earn, especially if you feel someone else is not putting in the same level of work.
@@Danielst15lm I think a better endorsement for the socialist-group living format would be for them to name famous residents who _stayed_ in communal living _after_ becoming rich and famous.
Thank you for this video about the kibbutz. Recently young people from Israel came to our church to talk about their lives in the Kibbutz. They all have fond memories and how much they loved their kibbutz. I woke up my curiosity and I found your video which brought so much more interesting information.
I (not a Jew) was a volunteer at Kibbutz Ginosar on the Sea of Galilee in the early 70s. I loved my time there. It was one of the best experiences in my life. Unfortunately, I knew very little about Jewish history. The main thing I knew about Israel, and it was the same for all my friends, was the Six Day War. I worked in the banana groves. Ginosar and the Sea of Galilee were 209 meters under sea level, which is why bananas grew so well there.
Watched this with great interest. Perhaps if more Countries had a similiar thing. Where people work together for the betterment of the land. Living off their land and truly being a close knit community. Then the world in my view would benefit and be a much better place. 💪🏼🙏🏻💪🏼🙏🏻
I know some history of a kibbutz. So simple, so powerful; when people unite, knowing they can only gain, never loose. Basis of a strong, healthy nation ❤️
I am from India and here Hindus Muslims Christians and a lot of other religions co exist as one nation for centuries. There are certain problems but we live just fine as people elsewhere in the world. They don't need separate nations for Israel or Palastine. Only One Like Ours......
There is a reason why the USSR was, at least during its early existence and before the revisionist era, pro-Israel. Stalin himself made his support for Zionism and a Jewish homeland well-known. The Kibbutz lifestyle is one that champions progress, hard work, and hands-on learning. We should all be striving in one way or another to live like that.
I heard kibbutz during my time as community organizer in a world bank project in resource management of upland communities. it was in 1993 in the Philippines.
After the "Abitur" a friend of mine and myself went to Israel. We lived and worked for five weeks in the kibbutz Reshafim. We there met Menachem Rosner, who did studies on the 2nd generation of the kibbutz people. It was very interesting. Later then we hitchhiked for a month through Israel. It hurts my heart to hear and read about the past and present wars and I hope so much that some day there will be peace in the Middle East.
Good video , , one of our tutors a long time back in 77 told us that the theoey of kibbutzim were to intoduce a communist ideal by the method of cells that would grow to their own limit wirhin a society whereas the Russian method was to have a huge social upheaval . Looks like it was the Chinese method too. Over the years I've mentioned on odd occasion that the israeli kibbutzim are examples of successful communism and it's the first time they've heard such a reference always. It was a teacher's college as they were then . I think the subject was social studies cum history. That endless debating and brainstorming is something which i know exactly what you're saying . Looks like there was plenty of debating and brainstorming for that raid on Entebbe too .
It's Friday October 20, 2023. I had lived on Kibbutz Givat Brenner as a Ulpan student and worker in 1995. .....Plus I have visited several every time I was in Israel. .... This video is a very good summary about Kibbutz.. I have wanted to start one in the U.S as a Co-op for living in a city and each persons either works in the city or at the Co-op.
I've spent time on several kibbutzim and they really had such an idyllic feeling, very peaceful and bucolic. Sadly, although as mentioned in the video they've learned to adapt, they've become somewhat of a romantic anachronism. Also, at least in times past or at their height, although they've made up 2-3% of Israel's population, the members are highly respected in Israeli society and they've made up about 25% of the members of the elite military units, officer corps and Knesset members.
There’s something I admire about the movement - living off the land, hard work and pragmatism. But Kibbutzim aren’t “socialist” they’re flat-out communist! I know a guy who literally wasn’t allowed to own a certain kind of frying pan because not everyone in the kibbutz had one. 🤦♂️ They’re just too communistic!
There is a broad range of kibbutzim and kibbutz movements in Israel. Most are secular, dome very religious. Some are wealthy (their farms and industries became successful), others not so well off. Increasingly there is ownership of private property and personal luxuries, but some have remained true their roots where everything is shared. I lived on two - when I was a young man and up to the challenge.
I'm not necessarily pro or anti Israel, but I remember (IF the video doesn't say so, I probably won't watch) Chomsky had a very negative experience in Israel in the early 50's. Thought the Jews in Israel were very racist.
@@eehkoh7935 with a short view on history that may seem as so......if you open Torah......or look at ancient history up until today it would make me think otherwise..... Israelites , Hebrew s , to the Jews of today..... were not the ones with the bigger guns etc but always managed to not only survive but thrive amidst their enemies......I would think there is something else happening and going on..... what do you think ?
Sorry it took me so long to get back with you I have been in the hospital for a little over two months now I’m slowly getting better now but I still watch all your stuff that comes out new thank you so much
I’m Catholic, but I spent one summer on what was then the last Jewish settlement on the Gaza Strip. We had a childrens house. The kids lived separately from their parents.
The Kibbutz are a fascinating. In the 70s and 80s is was even a place where European leftist with sympathy for the Palestinian cause could stay. Remember we had one tell us about her experiences in one when I was in 7th grade.
The amazing transformation of the land, to me, proves who the real landowners are. Few of the Palestinians did much with that hidden treasure for the hundreds of yeasts they had control of it. ** haters, do not reply ** this is my opinion
Your words remind me of King Solomon. Two woman appeared before him, both claiming a baby belonged to them. Alright, he said, we'll cut the baby in two, then you each get a half. The woman who was not the baby's mother agreed. The real mother did not, saying no, give her the baby. King Solomon knew from their responses who the real mother was. Those who know the history of the transformation of the land of Israel know who the real owners are.
That could be an excellent argument to erradicate a whole people, adults and children, at gunpoint from their houses. A great argument it would be, if mass expulsion were legal and moral.
Curious. Why can't you have a private Kibbutz? I.E. you buy in or you can charge a fee. Communal areas are rented. But, if you so choose, you can pay for the space of others. You can certainly be an individualist AND a capitalist and still wish to live in a tight knit community.
Thank you for this video. I did not know what they were. When the attack from Hamas happened, the kabbutz gates looked like a gated community for the fancy shmantsy, lol. I was a hippy in early 70s. Not the sex and drugs type but more the visionary. Simple living type. So many of us would have loved Kibbutz life. It also sounds like the early Christian church. Simple living is good for the soul, in my opinion. Homestead life is close and that is popular here, but not with community. Community is best part! I believe if we in America want to have a good future we will create real communities to help each other and work together because the structure is going downhill fast. I hope healing is happening in Israel and rebuilding will be possible with no terrorist predators. Prayers.
I'm not Jewish either, but the idea of a Kibbutz seems like a wonderful idea. It's almost like a fantasy. Everyone working toward one goal. I wish I could experience this life for one year! It seems like a peaceful.and fair way to live. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know..the whole idea is enticing to me!
We have similar communities like this where I live. Hutterites, Amish, Brethren, Mennonites, A Jewish Amish group led by a Rabbi who moved here from New York and various communal groups with varying degrees of communal living. The group I belong to are made up mostly of Crypto Swiss Jews, Swiss Mennonites, Socialist Mennonites from Bern area Switzerland or Zimmerwald Switzerland, Greens. My family clan lives in one house to several houses on one estate practicing Judaism at home and Mennonite in public. Currently we have 42 living and combining resources under one household. Here we don't call it socialism we call it religious duty to change or improve the world.
Misusing the term socialism, it is communalism. People are free to belong or not. Socialism is centralized government power and does not co-exist well with democracy.
you basically glossed over the Stalin aspect. That is the key to everything. we still have these sickos in Israel, ruining our beautiful country. I say this as a former Soviet citizen.
It’s not a luxurious life, but they are well cared for. I remember thinking it was a good life for children, safe and secure for the elderly and disabled. Kibbutzniks and volunteers in their prime work hard to sustain a decent life for all.
The 'priests' in the Old Testament are priests of Moloch. (Preferred of Yaldabaoth the Blind Fool god) The vocalization Molek occurs eight times in the Masoretic Text, predominantly (five times) in Leviticus: Leviticus 18:21 "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD." * I am the Yahweh * "thy" seed (🤨) Leviticus 20:2: "Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones." * "his" seed (🤔) Leviticus 20:3: "And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name." * "his" seed (😕) Leviticus 20:4: "And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not" * "his" seed (😬) Leviticus 20:5: "Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people." Two further occurrences connect the practice with Tophet, a place of sacrifice in the Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna, which later acquired the connotation of "Hell"): 2 Kings 23:10: "And he (King Josiah of Judah) defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech." * "his" son or "his" daughter (🤢) Jeremiah 32:35: "And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin." * "their" sons/"their" daughters (🤮) * neither came it into my mind (🥸) The practice of "passing through fire" (`abar ba-'esh עָבַר בָּאֵשׁ) associated with the name Moloch in the citations above also occurs without reference to Moloch in Deuteronomy 18:10-13, 2 Kings 16:3 and 21:6 and Ezekiel 20:26,31 and 23:37. Isaiah 30:33 has the vocalization melek ("king"), but this is widely accepted as an omission of the Masoretic correctors: "For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it." *(LORD = YHWH = Yahweh; see Yahwism) On the other hand, while 1 Kings 11:7 has the vocalization Molek, in "Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon", this is widely accepted as an error for Malkam (Milcom), the specifically Ammonite idol.
@@roeyel331 there's a good YHWH from Samaria/Bethel (Yehowah). Then there's the YHWH of Teman/Beer-sheba who's Yaldabaoth the Blind Fool god of the Old Testament. He has multiple personality disorder, is a liar and a murderer and deciever. Fathered Cain with Eve (non-consensual). Nag Hammadi Library tells all about him. Lotta people died for saying so 🔥 🔥.
@@roeyel331 somehow over the years "craftsman" and "artisan" became "creator" and "maker". This is a contingent universe (as opposed to necessary) and yes Yaldabaoth/Samael/Saklas is the Craftsman. Doesn't make him God.
بنيتم ما بنيتم على جماجم الاطفال والنساء مجازركم ( دير ياسين ) واخواتها وصمة عار في جبين الانسانية الغرب الذي زرعكم في أرضنا العربية يعتبركم اداة لتحقيق مصالحه الاستعمارية لا أكثر والغرب الذي كان يظطهدكم طوال التاريخ لم يساعدكم حينها الا نحن العرب وادخلناكم بلداننا ومنازلنا وتقاسمنا معكم كل شي فكان ردكم الجحود للوفاء هل هذا رد المعروف منكم !! وفي النهاية اقول قوة الحق اقوى من كل شي وحتماً سيعود صاحب الارض ولو بعد حين
Who do you have to ask permission from to have sex with your wife own something for yourself or does your neighbor come in and have sex with your wife and you get to go over there and own the TV
I had a meal at a kibbutz. They def try to make money off tourism. Don't get me wrong, I am not putting them down. Whatever you have to do to make a living
People should in this generation demand vital services be extended to NEW LOTS into the desert so people and youth can start out NOT IN LARGE CITIES where it only drives up prices of rents and makes all but rich unable to afford it . There needs to be ways for the young to get a lot build a small place to start out and to have basic services in place without bankrupting them as it is impossible to on their own so kibbutz are not healthiest so the proper counties and districts with NEW LOTS to let all young or old start out tax free for first 5 years when they are trying to build a home nd business then they can pay after that. Would be best if government made it priority to do this soon all cant go to Tel aviv it is not life in over crowded cities where they cant start new businesses.
That Israelis were so lucky to find all that land completely unoccupied to raise their Kibbutz, didn't they? Why did they need self-defense with assault rifles? Wasn't that an absolutely peaceful land?
Yeah, glossed over the big brown elephant in the room there. You described Israel as "plucky"? Coming from neither a Muslim nor jewish background, your "pluckiness" seems inappropriate compared to the Palestinian disposition
The Kibbutz is like the American Peace Corps adventure but with a strong cultural element. Way back then it was out of necessity, everyone was very poor and many newly arrived, so it was good to automatically live and work in a group of like-minded people. But this lady is not honest. It didn't fit when Israelis began to prosper. Socialism in all it's forms kills free thought, individuality and initiative, and mediocrity sets in. She seems to be glorifying communism, which is a form of socialism. I'll keep freedom and liberty over socialism, thank you.
This is why the kibbutz is very different today from what it was. It's totally capitalist and individual now. I have relatives in 2 different kibbutz and they are very conservative capitalists.
Does it really have to be so severely binary? You can have aspects of both while maintaining the lifestyle. Obviously they do not want freeloaders who are physically capable but they also do not want workaholics to claim dominance over others opportunity to simply exist.
And we saw what socialism gun policies did to innocent civilians that were unarmed. Socialism had failed everywhere it's tried. This video is proof whether that's what you meant or not.
@@Larrymh07Some say to break the hearts of the Palestinians. Some of those olive trees were 100s of years old. And the planned the raze right before harvest. No olive oil. No money. No more olive trees. This is why, in part, Palestinians dislike the Israelis. The were fig and date groves too.
In the back of the “Jews” mind is that. “We have to secure a land for our own because we don’t want to happen AGain of what happen in Germany? I get it but don’t expect it’ll be peaceful it’s because your powerful(nato)
Yes, somehow they have blended socialism (in a good way) with democracy! There are many many committees on a Kibbutz and everyone has something to say and it is encouraged! They are great places! I wish I could create one here on Ontario, Canada but everyone is "too for themselves". What i mean is people here lice more on an indivudual basis rather than group. However, I strongly believe in free will so I'm don't mean that as a criticism. Only that Kibbutz life is a chosen mindset but it is not for everyone. And that's ok.
Kind of. Picture it without suppression of human opinions or thought. And a high degree of personal autonomy as long as it doesn't impact the kibbutz negatively.
@@virginiagreene3610 well if you are serious, about wishing to join or start one, my wife and i are looking to buy some land, and doing exactly that, near Orlando, fl united states
The Roman Empire wanted to erase from the history the juddea so called the Holy Land Palestine - but they couldn't wipe the people.. so did the Ottoman Empire - by naming the Land Palestine doesn't mean Jews were not there.. they were there way before Christians and Muslims.. so stop calling them occupiers.. Jews were on that land for the last 5000 years..
I grew up like this on my dad's farm in Tennessee. It's like living Amish...very Spartan, very homely. We raised our own food in a family community. Everyone worked and we shared money and responsibility. My father was our bank and we all loved and respected each other. May God bless Israel and watch over humanity.
You've fallen into their trap. They want you to believe there are only 2 sides and that you must choose to support one. It's all a set up, from all this Jewish propaganda you're suddenly seeing to the fact the spread Muslims across the globe to start a war without borders
Sir do you understand how Spartans were like?
I volunteered on two kibbutzim when I was 18, and traveled to Egypt and it was an amazing experience. Highly recommend it to anyone eligible for birthright, or even as a cheap way to do some traveling. It becomes a second family among the volunteers, and it’s truly a wonderful experience. I’m a Christian now, and would love to get back to Jerusalem and see all of the holy sights again.
Sorry for you.
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I’m blessed in more ways than I can count. Please find someone who needs your sympathy/pity. Thank you 🙏
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If it was so great, why don’t you live there there’s a reason why it’s cheap
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You can’t just stay in a foreign country indefinitely, genius. Why don’t people choose to live in any of the places they travel to? Please utilize some common sense and logic. Have you done any traveling? Where? Did you like it? Why don’t you live there? 😂
Though not Jewish myself, i as a South African, experienced my time of 12 months on Kibbutz Hulata in 1985 as a wonderful absolute highlight of my life. It remains that until today, 37 years later. I lost my heart 💓 in this wonderful country and nation of Israel, and have visited it at least 20 times since then as a tourist, discovering more and more of its ancient to modern history, and loving the Israeli way and the Hebrew language that binds it's people together
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You go wherever settler colonialism goes don’t you? I can tell you’re a boer from your last name, and you seem to love Israel too.
We love apartheid ❤.
I lived on Kibbutz Kfar Giladi in 1982 and in 1988. Wonderful experience! I like the Kibbutz lifestyle - I felt I belonged within a strong, closely knit community. If i were young again, I would definitely go back and work and live there longer! I very highly recommend it to anyone looking for adventure and a broader perspective of the world and the people of the world, as volunteers from many countries often congregate on kibbutzim. It was truly fantastic!
Why would you have to be young?
Interesting that all the people mentioned at the beginning are all wealthy celebrities and/or politicians. I’m not sure they still live by the socialist “share the wealth” ideals today.
Bernie Sanders talks a good game, but he’s a wealthy man, living a privileged life.
It seems any group starting out as socialist inevitably leads to a capitalist lifestyle.
It’s human nature to want to keep what you earn, especially if you feel someone else is not putting in the same level of work.
Bernie and Noam are both utter drek.
It's easy to volunteer somewhere temporarily, but living that way permanently is an entirely different matter.
what would be the point of naming the none famous volunteers?
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I think a better endorsement for the socialist-group living format would be for them to name famous residents who _stayed_ in communal living _after_ becoming rich and famous.
“Some call it Communism, I call it Judaism.” - Rabbi Stephen Wise
-Genrikh Yagoda
Very interesting! The narrator is beautiful and speaks in a way that makes it fun to listen and watch. Good job!
I really wanted to volunteer in a kibbutz while young, I regret not taking the chance and doing it.
Wow, interesting. Me as a Turk, i always dreamed of forming this kind of life style movement in my country.
How can Turks be so pathetic to Europe and Israel just like Indians inferiority complex
And Islamist terrorists are intent on tearing it down.
Thank you for this video about the kibbutz. Recently young people from Israel came to our church to talk about their lives in the Kibbutz. They all have fond memories and how much they loved their kibbutz. I woke up my curiosity and I found your video which brought so much more interesting information.
6:43 socialism doesn't mean " no property". You can have a society of equals and at the same time private property of goods that came from your work.
I (not a Jew) was a volunteer at Kibbutz Ginosar on the Sea of Galilee in the early 70s. I loved my time there. It was one of the best experiences in my life. Unfortunately, I knew very little about Jewish history. The main thing I knew about Israel, and it was the same for all my friends, was the Six Day War. I worked in the banana groves. Ginosar and the Sea of Galilee were 209 meters under sea level, which is why bananas grew so well there.
Thank you for the history lesson. I never knew any of this. You are a good teacher. And you made it interesting
She is lying 🤥
Watched this with great interest. Perhaps if more Countries had a similiar thing. Where people work together for the betterment of the land. Living off their land and truly being a close knit community. Then the world in my view would benefit and be a much better place. 💪🏼🙏🏻💪🏼🙏🏻
Yes def the only place on the world so far...
I know some history of a kibbutz. So simple, so powerful; when people unite, knowing they can only gain, never loose. Basis of a strong, healthy nation ❤️
I love the ending to this - the kibbutz ideals can still apply over the whole country, even if the original kibbutzim have largely vanished
You forgot Simon leBon of Duran Duran. Volunteered in kibbutz Gvuloth
I am from India and here Hindus Muslims Christians and a lot of other religions co exist as one nation for centuries. There are certain problems but we live just fine as people elsewhere in the world. They don't need separate nations for Israel or Palastine. Only One Like Ours......
There is a reason why the USSR was, at least during its early existence and before the revisionist era, pro-Israel. Stalin himself made his support for Zionism and a Jewish homeland well-known. The Kibbutz lifestyle is one that champions progress, hard work, and hands-on learning. We should all be striving in one way or another to live like that.
I heard kibbutz during my time as community organizer in a world bank project in resource management of upland communities. it was in 1993 in the Philippines.
After the "Abitur" a friend of mine and myself went to Israel. We lived and worked for five weeks in the kibbutz Reshafim. We there met Menachem Rosner, who did studies on the 2nd generation of the kibbutz people. It was very interesting.
Later then we hitchhiked for a month through Israel.
It hurts my heart to hear and read about the past and present wars and I hope so much that some day there will be peace in the Middle East.
Wow, very very informative!! Thanks for sharing.
Good video , , one of our tutors a long time back in 77 told us that the theoey of kibbutzim were to intoduce a communist ideal by the method of cells that would grow to their own limit wirhin a society whereas the Russian method was to have a huge social upheaval . Looks like it was the Chinese method too.
Over the years I've mentioned on odd occasion that the israeli kibbutzim are examples of successful communism and it's the first time they've heard such a reference always. It was a teacher's college as they were then . I think the subject was social studies cum history.
That endless debating and brainstorming is something which i know exactly what you're saying . Looks like there was plenty of debating and brainstorming for that raid on Entebbe too .
4:06 Choamsky was disgusted by the fact Stalinists were allowed to Kibbutz
I don't blame him. Stalin was an antisemitic idiot.
It's Friday October 20, 2023. I had lived on Kibbutz Givat Brenner as a Ulpan student and worker in 1995. .....Plus I have visited several every time I was in Israel. .... This video is a very good summary about Kibbutz.. I have wanted to start one in the U.S as a Co-op for living in a city and each persons either works in the city or at the Co-op.
I've spent time on several kibbutzim and they really had such an idyllic feeling, very peaceful and bucolic.
Sadly, although as mentioned in the video they've learned to adapt, they've become somewhat of a romantic anachronism.
Also, at least in times past or at their height, although they've made up 2-3% of Israel's population, the members are highly respected in Israeli society and they've made up about 25% of the members of the elite military units, officer corps and Knesset members.
There’s something I admire about the movement - living off the land, hard work and pragmatism. But Kibbutzim aren’t “socialist” they’re flat-out communist! I know a guy who literally wasn’t allowed to own a certain kind of frying pan because not everyone in the kibbutz had one. 🤦♂️ They’re just too communistic!
There is a broad range of kibbutzim and kibbutz movements in Israel. Most are secular, dome very religious. Some are wealthy (their farms and industries became successful), others not so well off. Increasingly there is ownership of private property and personal luxuries, but some have remained true their roots where everything is shared. I lived on two - when I was a young man and up to the challenge.
I'm not necessarily pro or anti Israel, but I remember (IF the video doesn't say so, I probably won't watch) Chomsky had a very negative experience in Israel in the early 50's. Thought the Jews in Israel were very racist.
Yep. I read that too Re Chomsky.
Great video, i'd love to visit one some day.
Kibbutz was certainly a romantic, arguably admirable idea. I am not sure if building them on other people's land is.
@@eehkoh7935 who are you to say who's land is who's ?
@@heavenbound1536 who has the right then? The ones with bigger guns, missiles, and planes? Seems like that to me.
@@eehkoh7935 with a short view on history that may seem as so......if you open Torah......or look at ancient history up until today it would make me think otherwise..... Israelites , Hebrew s , to the Jews of today..... were not the ones with the bigger guns etc but always managed to not only survive but thrive amidst their enemies......I would think there is something else happening and going on..... what do you think ?
@@heavenbound1536 Romans, Babylonians, Assyrians were the ones with the bigger guns, weren't they?
Sorry it took me so long to get back with you I have been in the hospital for a little over two months now I’m slowly getting better now but I still watch all your stuff that comes out new thank you so much
Glad to hear you’re on the mend.
I’m Catholic, but I spent one summer on what was then the last Jewish settlement on the Gaza Strip. We had a childrens house. The kids lived separately from their parents.
The Kibbutz are a fascinating. In the 70s and 80s is was even a place where European leftist with sympathy for the Palestinian cause could stay. Remember we had one tell us about her experiences in one when I was in 7th grade.
Its like a summer camp on stolen land.
I dont remember so much killing of civilians at my summer camps though.
Jackanory Jackanory..... what an unbelievably sanitised version of events. And where are the Palestinians in all of this? Sanitised out of your story
Love this!
The amazing transformation of the land, to me, proves who the real landowners are.
Few of the Palestinians did much with that hidden treasure for the hundreds of yeasts they had control of it.
** haters, do not reply **
this is my opinion
well said.
Your words remind me of King Solomon. Two woman appeared before him, both claiming a baby belonged to them. Alright, he said, we'll cut the baby in two, then you each get a half. The woman who was not the baby's mother agreed. The real mother did not, saying no, give her the baby. King Solomon knew from their responses who the real mother was. Those who know the history of the transformation of the land of Israel know who the real owners are.
Figures that you would support the removal of the Palestinians. Something like that happened before in the 20th century.
That could be an excellent argument to erradicate a whole people, adults and children, at gunpoint from their houses. A great argument it would be, if mass expulsion were legal and moral.
That is flat out false, in fact many of the zionist settlers ate the start of the 20th century were instructed by Palestinian farmers.
Curious.
Why can't you have a private Kibbutz? I.E. you buy in or you can charge a fee. Communal areas are rented. But, if you so choose, you can pay for the space of others. You can certainly be an individualist AND a capitalist and still wish to live in a tight knit community.
So did I in 1968.. a wonderful experience
And BTW I can’t listen to this girl because she speaks in vocal fry and croak
I guess that's something similar to the American Peace Corps. Good idea, it should still be running strong in these times.
My girlfriend who is Israeli was raised in a kibbutz.
What was her experience growing up there as a child. How did it shape her to whom she is now, if I may know?
Thank you for this video. I did not know what they were. When the attack from Hamas happened, the kabbutz gates looked like a gated community for the fancy shmantsy, lol.
I was a hippy in early 70s. Not the sex and drugs type but more the visionary. Simple living type. So many of us would have loved Kibbutz life. It also sounds like the early Christian church. Simple living is good for the soul, in my opinion.
Homestead life is close and that is popular here, but not with community. Community is best part! I believe if we in America want to have a good future we will create real communities to help each other and work together because the structure is going downhill fast.
I hope healing is happening in Israel and rebuilding will be possible with no terrorist predators. Prayers.
Best time in my life I am not Jewish but felt part of the community and part of the country. I’ll always be loyal to 🇮🇱
It's because you're an NPC
I'm not Jewish either, but the idea of a Kibbutz seems like a wonderful idea. It's almost like a fantasy. Everyone working toward one goal. I wish I could experience this life for one year! It seems like a peaceful.and fair way to live. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know..the whole idea is enticing to me!
Kibbutz for life❤️
I support Israel and Zionism! Victory for Israel!
My grandfathers grandfather was a founding member of degania and it’s 1 of the most beautiful places in Israel
I know. Under the Arabs Israel became swampland. Israelites tried to change that by growing trees.
We have similar communities like this where I live. Hutterites, Amish, Brethren, Mennonites, A Jewish Amish group led by a Rabbi who moved here from New York and various communal groups with varying degrees of communal living. The group I belong to are made up mostly of Crypto Swiss Jews, Swiss Mennonites, Socialist Mennonites from Bern area Switzerland or Zimmerwald Switzerland, Greens. My family clan lives in one house to several houses on one estate practicing Judaism at home and Mennonite in public. Currently we have 42 living and combining resources under one household. Here we don't call it socialism we call it religious duty to change or improve the world.
Brilliant!!!
Perhaps Chomsky and Sanders should have gone to work in private enterprise .
Dr. Ruth Westheimer too!
Misusing the term socialism, it is communalism. People are free to belong or not. Socialism is centralized government power and does not co-exist well with democracy.
Why is this sponsored ?
Does anybody know the backing song during the "Growth and popularity..." section?
you basically glossed over the Stalin aspect.
That is the key to everything. we still have these sickos in Israel, ruining our beautiful country. I say this as a former Soviet citizen.
We think you've left out a lot of information regarding Israel' pioneering and founding their home.....works for your narrative,,I guess
So, what happens to the sick, elderly, & disabled.
They are being taken care of.
I was wondering about that? Are they housed, fed, helped?
It’s not a luxurious life, but they are well cared for. I remember thinking it was a good life for children, safe and secure for the elderly and disabled. Kibbutzniks and volunteers in their prime work hard to sustain a decent life for all.
@The city of the King, Paslms 122:6.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, they
will prosper that love you. God bless!!!
The 'priests' in the Old Testament are priests of Moloch. (Preferred of Yaldabaoth the Blind Fool god)
The vocalization Molek occurs eight times in the Masoretic Text, predominantly (five times) in Leviticus:
Leviticus 18:21 "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD."
* I am the Yahweh
* "thy" seed (🤨)
Leviticus 20:2: "Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones."
* "his" seed (🤔)
Leviticus 20:3: "And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name."
* "his" seed (😕)
Leviticus 20:4: "And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not"
* "his" seed (😬)
Leviticus 20:5: "Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
Two further occurrences connect the practice with Tophet, a place of sacrifice in the Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna, which later acquired the connotation of "Hell"):
2 Kings 23:10: "And he (King Josiah of Judah) defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech."
* "his" son or "his" daughter (🤢)
Jeremiah 32:35: "And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
* "their" sons/"their" daughters (🤮)
* neither came it into my mind (🥸)
The practice of "passing through fire" (`abar ba-'esh עָבַר בָּאֵשׁ) associated with the name Moloch in the citations above also occurs without reference to Moloch in Deuteronomy 18:10-13, 2 Kings 16:3 and 21:6 and Ezekiel 20:26,31 and 23:37.
Isaiah 30:33 has the vocalization melek ("king"), but this is widely accepted as an omission of the Masoretic correctors: "For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it."
*(LORD = YHWH = Yahweh; see Yahwism)
On the other hand, while 1 Kings 11:7 has the vocalization Molek, in "Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon", this is widely accepted as an error for Malkam (Milcom), the specifically Ammonite idol.
...not making sense. The priests, you say.
The mistranslation from a verb to Cohan means to minister. YHWH NOT being a god
@@roeyel331 there's a good YHWH from Samaria/Bethel (Yehowah). Then there's the YHWH of Teman/Beer-sheba who's Yaldabaoth the Blind Fool god of the Old Testament.
He has multiple personality disorder, is a liar and a murderer and deciever. Fathered Cain with Eve (non-consensual). Nag Hammadi Library tells all about him. Lotta people died for saying so 🔥 🔥.
@@roeyel331 somehow over the years "craftsman" and "artisan" became "creator" and "maker".
This is a contingent universe (as opposed to necessary) and yes Yaldabaoth/Samael/Saklas is the Craftsman. Doesn't make him God.
Excellent educational documentary! Sound American but looks Israeli.
Thanks🌠
@ 8:30 who will kibbitz about the kibbutz
Idk of Bernie sanders will still do it after what the IDF has done all these years
Fascinating. I’m 61 and learned something new today.
بنيتم ما بنيتم على جماجم الاطفال والنساء
مجازركم ( دير ياسين ) واخواتها وصمة عار في جبين الانسانية
الغرب الذي زرعكم في أرضنا العربية يعتبركم اداة لتحقيق مصالحه الاستعمارية لا أكثر
والغرب الذي كان يظطهدكم طوال التاريخ
لم يساعدكم حينها الا نحن العرب وادخلناكم بلداننا ومنازلنا وتقاسمنا معكم كل شي
فكان ردكم الجحود للوفاء هل هذا رد المعروف منكم !!
وفي النهاية اقول
قوة الحق اقوى من كل شي وحتماً سيعود صاحب الارض ولو بعد حين
Beautifully said.
I wish I can join Kibbutz
do you?
You can I think
I am with you!
Who do you have to ask permission from to have sex with your wife own something for yourself or does your neighbor come in and have sex with your wife and you get to go over there and own the TV
It's absolutely horrible that these people were not armed. What is Israel thinking? So sad!
People are smart and educated these days is not anymore like 50’s then they don’t buy your BS
Winter is coming...
I had a meal at a kibbutz. They def try to make money off tourism. Don't get me wrong, I am not putting them down. Whatever you have to do to make a living
I like the values of Israeli Kibbutz
Honestly I like the concept ov this except the part where this is how land was and is still being illegally stolen from Palestinians
Very interesting.
Bapak Zionis ????!!!
People should in this generation demand vital services be extended to NEW LOTS into the desert so people and youth can start out NOT IN LARGE CITIES where it only drives up prices of rents and makes all but rich unable to afford it . There needs to be ways for the young to get a lot build a small place to start out and to have basic services in place without bankrupting them as it is impossible to on their own so kibbutz are not healthiest so the proper counties and districts with NEW LOTS to let all young or old start out tax free for first 5 years when they are trying to build a home nd business then they can pay after that. Would be best if government made it priority to do this soon all cant go to Tel aviv it is not life in over crowded cities where they cant start new businesses.
That's a very beautiful side of the Jews' culture.
David Ben gurion was never on a kibbutz he had Jerusalem airport named after him
I like the premise of the Kibbutz! So sad what happened 7 Oct 2023.
That Israelis were so lucky to find all that land completely unoccupied to raise their Kibbutz, didn't they?
Why did they need self-defense with assault rifles? Wasn't that an absolutely peaceful land?
Praying for Israel's safety... 🙏
7:03 not only medical i hope. Legalize it!
Working or kibbutzim and highly democratic social activities and successful communism ON OTHERS' LANDS by force.SHAMe On YOU
Watching this 10/14/2023 they’re at war…so horrifying
Very impressive and interesting ❤❤❤❤
Yeah, glossed over the big brown elephant in the room there. You described Israel as "plucky"? Coming from neither a Muslim nor jewish background, your "pluckiness" seems inappropriate compared to the Palestinian disposition
The Kibbutz is like the American Peace Corps adventure but with a strong cultural element. Way back then it was out of necessity, everyone was very poor and many newly arrived, so it was good to automatically live and work in a group of like-minded people. But this lady is not honest. It didn't fit when Israelis began to prosper. Socialism in all it's forms kills free thought, individuality and initiative, and mediocrity sets in. She seems to be glorifying communism, which is a form of socialism. I'll keep freedom and liberty over socialism, thank you.
This is why the kibbutz is very different today from what it was. It's totally capitalist and individual now. I have relatives in 2 different kibbutz and they are very conservative capitalists.
Does it really have to be so severely binary? You can have aspects of both while maintaining the lifestyle. Obviously they do not want freeloaders who are physically capable but they also do not want workaholics to claim dominance over others opportunity to simply exist.
In -1909 the land used to be called Palestine 🇵🇸 😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And before that israel, and before than canaan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@satrioem6162 keep dreaming no one cares what your Harry Potter Bible said 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And now it’s called Israel and the scrapyard next door is called palestine
😅😅😅 no such thing as Palestinians
Arabs could have made the desert bloom ell, they chose not to.
And we saw what socialism gun policies did to innocent civilians that were unarmed.
Socialism had failed everywhere it's tried. This video is proof whether that's what you meant or not.
Hivemind drivel. Define socialism real quick
Feminism must always be explained and turns into a great procession procession
The Palestinians didn't farm the land?
Of course not.
@@thealternative9580 How about all of the olive trees that are there?
@@Larrymh07Were there. Israel cut them down and planted pine trees with money donated in the 1950s from South Africa.
@@Larrymh07Some say to break the hearts of the Palestinians. Some of those olive trees were 100s of years old. And the planned the raze right before harvest. No olive oil. No money. No more olive trees. This is why, in part, Palestinians dislike the Israelis. The were fig and date groves too.
@@lisasmith7066 What a disaster.
Excellent documentary
When I went, you couldn't get into Nazareth. It was communist. Israel truly is multi party.
In the back of the “Jews” mind is that. “We have to secure a land for our own because we don’t want to happen AGain of what happen in Germany? I get it but don’t expect it’ll be peaceful it’s because your powerful(nato)
Kibbutz is like a successful Communism
Yes, somehow they have blended socialism (in a good way) with democracy! There are many many committees on a Kibbutz and everyone has something to say and it is encouraged! They are great places! I wish I could create one here on Ontario, Canada but everyone is "too for themselves". What i mean is people here lice more on an indivudual basis rather than group. However, I strongly believe in free will so I'm don't mean that as a criticism. Only that Kibbutz life is a chosen mindset but it is not for everyone. And that's ok.
It can work i believe but only in smaller communities. Forcing others to go with this plan only crates death and destruction!!!!
Kind of. Picture it without suppression of human opinions or thought. And a high degree of personal autonomy as long as it doesn't impact the kibbutz negatively.
@@virginiagreene3610 well if you are serious, about wishing to join or start one, my wife and i are looking to buy some land, and doing exactly that, near Orlando, fl united states
Its democratic communism
**Came to Palestine....Israel wasnt created until 1948**
Isreal has existed since 3000 BC....
Maybe you need to read a bit about history
@@marovahauhulh7054 No it hasnt lol....Show me israel on a map made BEFORE 1948....My Dad is literally older than the nation of israel.
Your dad is not older than the Bible
@@RutherfordBeehayze-kw2mz Palestine isn't a place. The name means nothing.
The Roman Empire wanted to erase from the history the juddea so called the Holy Land Palestine - but they couldn't wipe the people.. so did the Ottoman Empire - by naming the Land Palestine doesn't mean Jews were not there.. they were there way before Christians and Muslims.. so stop calling them occupiers.. Jews were on that land for the last 5000 years..
Kibbutz > Homeowner Association
Are the kibbutz communities religious or are they athiest?
Kinda like a hippy commune.
But y do u have to steal plalistiniain land, netanyahu allowed this attack to happen to force Palestinians out of Gaza
Mennonites, Amish, convents, etc, have the same system.