Little correction on the Eggabelle and Lizbert section: it isn't actually a case of Bury Your Gays because the ending picture of the two on the beach is post-game, just like all the other pics. They DID make it out.
@@ThinkBoxChris In the ending, Filbo mentions the Snakification effects wears off. Which explains why all the Grumpuses are back to normal (except Floofty’s leg is replaced with a robot leg). It could mean Lizbert and Eggabell “Queen of Bugsnax” effect wore off when the Bugsnax were subdued.
Fun thing is this; Shelda, Floofty, Triffany, and Chandlo, all characters who needed more development because besides their own character quests , they either didnt get much dedication or were overshadowed in writing by their partners(Wambus to Triffany and Snorpy to Floofty respectively) are the characters we get to accompany on the journey to the new Island in the expansion! Its so great!
I think Shelda gets a bad rep. She does "consume the toxins", going against her own teachings, but she also acknowledges her own failings and genuinely wants the other Grumps to be better than her.
I can definitely see that. To me it's her weird phrasing more than anything. Speaking in metaphors doesn't really help either. Some players just seem to zone out while talking to her.
honestly isle of bigsnax is def good at developing her, i 100%ed the game first time around and i lowkey hated shelda but now shes pretty chill. i vibe with shelda
Snorpy and chandlo are so cute especially in the new dlc where they have to be apart for once. It’s really nice seeing chandlo working without snorpy by his side all the time
The best thing i really like about Bugsnax is how they made the characters represent the LGBT. Normal. People. Not an exaggerated personality of "hey, my whole sexuality is my whole personality!" It's nice to see the grumpuses act on their own without visibly showing off their sexuality.
I mean they do, thats kinda the point of the video. Snorpy and chandlo are obnoxiously into one another eggable and liz never have a bad thing to say about one another and floofty is just straight up non binary. I think what you mean is that they're not stereotypes they dont scream im gay and thats all, healthy representation as it should be.
Ehh, I've learned to take "they made it their whole personality" as a criticism with a massive grain of salt because 9 times out of ten when someone's complaining about that's standard for 'making it their whole personality' is "acknowledging we exist in ways that can't be easily dismissed or ignored"
When I started this game I absolutely loved seeing the queer representation, I'll be honest I cried a little and I absolutely adore the character central side quest and character arc in a game where you catch food pokemon, personally I prefer the animation to the Pokemon games- I fell in love with Gramble as a character specifically because I identified with him a lot, especially as an awkward trans person that takes refuge with animals and feels weird with other people. I genuinely love the characters and the story lines this game has, which leaves me so excited about the DLC because there's new content with some characters I feel like we didn't get to vibe with much. Chandlo, Triffany, Floofty, and Shelda, likely a few other characters too later on
Yeah i can understand that, i didnt really resonate that strongly with one character i more saw aspects of myself in all of them which was rather refreshing in a game. I cant wait yo see what the team has in store its gonns be great
I think it’s also worth noting that Wambus seems somewhat Right-wing coded, yet is still given his own arc and still comes off as likable, even if a little abrasive. He also is just as accepting of the gay couples as everyone else, even though he butts heads with Gramble, who seems to be left-wing coded. I just thought was interesting to see.
as someone who is nonbinary and in a not straight realtionship this game and how the chacters are represented makes me really happy along with this video it's just goes down straight into detail about how relatable some (if not most) of these chacters are and that's just amazing.
This is such a good analysis! I agree with the point that Filbo is kinda just...there, at times. Which is a shame cause I feel like his whole "feeling inadequate" deal is pretty relatable. Glad I found this vid ^^
i think it's a toriel situation. she has a good character, and she's a good part of the lore, but she's not actually really..there in the game because she's just a tutorial character.
I only watched RTGames' comp video for the game....so I had no clue Wiggle and Gramble were a thing, I thought she was just trying to get close to him for his bugsnax cause of how much was still left out of that video.
Haha yeah i can see that ive seen his compilation too so yeah it glosses over a lot. Thats why i didnt watch his dlc one till id played it because i wanted context. Wiggles and gramble are really sweet actually and they have a super good dynamic that is really nice to see
The amount of people that say "at least they didn't make being gay their entire personality" are just prrof that we need more good representation like this. The stereotypes have been used for so long it's the default that is thought of when mentioning queer people in media. Luckily games like Bugsnax and shows like the owl house and our flag means death are doing an amazing job at fixing these issues.
Yeah being just gay is a product of bad writing not gay people our selves. Not to mention that when people say that they just mean someone they can tell is gay, okay i can tell you're straight based on your 3 in 1 soap kyle stop making it your whole personality
As a lesbian , seeing eggabell and Liz made me SO HAPPY. Like they made me jump for joy. They chose to be together, they chose to go together. They chose to stay even if it meant transforming their bodies. They chose EACHOTHER!! It’s so hard to find non toxic lesbian rep it’s like finding a needle in a haystack. They made me feel so seen.
Yeah that is true. I talk a lot about how sapphic parings are shown more in games/animation but it hadn't really struck me they're almost all toxic. Akilic parings are rarer but they almost always are background dads, dead, or uwu soft bois and i think we need to get more to comfortable intween where they're just good more than not
Chandlo trying to get smart & Snorpy is trying to get strong! These two are what I call relationship goals and literally caring about your partners interest to the point where you will put yourself into them so you know more and can be like your partner! I love these two to a tea!
I was strongly considering making my own representation video for Bugsnax, but after watching this, I don't think I need to! You've covered everything more eloquently than I would have, and that's amazing. You've even got the official video voice. Excellent work. The only unmentioned tidbit that I can think of is that they got a non-binary voice actor to play the non-binary character, and that's a fantastic touch.
Oh wow thank you that means a lot, i did work hard on this but i dodnt think i did that amazing of a job. Thank you again, and espically for my viice ive tried to fone tune it a lot for this job im glad its working. And thats super cool i dodnt know that, i typically dont go into voices unless its a very particular reason and it just never occurred to me to look into the games imdb. Still an awseome factoid.
their gender dimorphism confuses me but i think it's a teeth/tusk thing if you look at most of them the men have upward facing tucks( i think the exceptions and also if the muzzle is more dog-like both genders have tusks ) taking that into account i put a bet on Gramble being trans he has down facing teeth
Thats a very fair possibility, come to think of it now that youve brought that up I'd say yeah hes definitely like a lot of the trabs men i know. Anxious, small, irrationally afraid people are going to fuck them over, hunched over, has to be force fed (not literally but like you have to remind them to eat) and in general yeah he adds up
fun fact in the dlc there is a bug that specificaly hates eggabelle and eggs in general the tikada masala it hates eggler deviled eggler and eggabelle it honestly is funny how many egg puns they make with eggabelle like eggloo but yeah I love all grumpuses with my fave being floofty I love their personality and dialogue also the bosses in chandlo and snorpy’s share naming system with mama mewon and daddy cakelegs with the bosses being the mother of the wee mewons and the father of the baby cakelegs even their bosses are connected to eachother
I love the game for making their characters so lively and relatable. The LGBTQ+ references fit in perfectly too and make it all more real in some way. Though sadly I've seen a lot of people complain about it in the weirdest of ways. They all fall back on the 'Ew this is a game for children' argument.
Ive never got that i think more kids aimed at children and familes should have this stuff because its important. What else do they complain about? Like have they just been ew gay or is there something else they try to complain about?
Honestly i dont see how they're anymore forced or unnatural than the hetero ones. Their relationships in a game based on collecting food creatures theyre not meeded but they're nice. Animal crossing is a game about building a town and is made by nintendo they dont ruffel feathers these days they just make money. Here the games about the town these people live and and theyre dynamics be they paltonic or romantic, and thats why its great
@@ThinkBoxChris Oh same. Some teenage girl hit on me unprompted a few months ago and started freaking out when I mentioned A) I'm not comfortable dating anyone younger than 20 at my current age, and B) I'm gay.
Honestly Shelda's probably my favorite character other than Triffany. So glad her character was expanded upon in the DLC; hopefully if there's a sequel she'll show up. Then again Shelda IS canonically around 70, so who knows. I just have a tendency to be biased towards older characters because most of the people I know around my age aren't relatable at all. Eggabell and Lizbert really didn't have much impact on...anything until nearly the end of the game, it's a shame. But they were interesting while they were there.
Im starting to find more people my age that i can relate to, so its kinda nice to see people in their 20s that i can actually like. I was the kid who hung out with the teachers though so shelda was a nice nastaolgia hit. Yeah they were plot divices at the end of the day, which i mean i get but im not super trilled with. I really wanted to spend time with them before they went missing
@@ThinkBoxChris I hope I can find friends as well. I seem to have a tendency to attract horrible "Wow, you should be on an FBI watchlist" types of individuals; at least a few people have stayed in my life. And yeah, I was definitely the kid who hung out with the teachers as well. Ultimately I'm just glad Liz and Egg were in the game at all, one of the main writers said his/their[? not sure of pronoun] original plan was to have at least Eggabell die.
@@hawktalon7890 Yeah, the original game was suppose to be like a proper horror game but I’m glad the team went a different way with the game because I feel like if Bugsnax was just full on horror game, it would just have a different feeling on a person, a feeling of fascination but an also terrible shameful feeling which would probably give the game a really off-putting similarity to other games. The game we were given gives a lot more heart-warming moments which makes the game feel like you’re actually dealing with real life problems and strategies. The ending gives the player a much more suitable chance for them to think about the game and the opportunities that have been opened for possible continuations, game or not. Also, on a few Bugsnax gameplay stream videos, I said that the game was basically a My First Evangelion which kind of makes you realise that not only is it quite unique for a psychological horror but also quite excellent as a family game. So I stand on that mountain of Bugsnax=My First Evangelion and I will personally wait for any agreers of that idea. Also also, I haven’t actually played the game. For some reason, I always find a RUclips video of something and sometimes that becomes one of my hyper-fixations which means I watch more and more videos, but I always never seem to actually experience the actual thing which means I’ve now basically spoiled myself so congratulations me. Also also also (I apologise if I drag on a bit too much), I’ve been kinda been making my own AU, not only adding in my own journalist OC but also continuing the events of Bugsnax after the very end of the game so I’ve kind of made my own sequel to the game. I would love to share the ideas I have but it is unfinished, I can’t think of many ideas, I don’t have the time or energy to write these stories fully and I have no idea if I want to post them and if so, where to post them. If I get ideas then someday I could shine my creations onto the internet for the Snakmoots (don’t ask) to see. And to end this comment, yes I can’t decide on a favourite grump. Well, good night folks!
I really enjoy this analysis! I think you cover all the characters really well. And as a person who is very much in the LGBTQ+ I loved the representation, and how the game didn't shove it in your face like "look how progressive we are!!! Give us money!" This game in general is such a comfort, oddly. But yeah great video, hope it gets more attention because it's been 4 months and only has like 658 something views
I hope we get more characterization for Floofty and Shelda with the new DLC. I think we will because they're two of the four characters we'll get to interact with on the Isle of Bigsnax, and I think they were especially chosen because they were last and have the least interaction with the player as a result, so fingers crossed!
This is a great analysis of the character-dynamics! Thank you! I would like to push back against one point you mage though: I do NOT think Eggabel and Lizbert's story fits the bury your gays stereotype. With half of the cast being canonically explicitly queer and most of them surviving (plus the hint from the endcredits Liz and Egg might still be alive) their story arc is not a cheap trick to appease the gay-phobic audience, but rather the dramatic conclusion to the main story whose central couple happens to be one of the queer ones. The problem with bury your gays is that it's a cheap copout of delivering real representation in a lot of media while still being able to include a token gay character/couple. Bugsnax handles representation and inclusion in general and th Egg-Liz-storyline way too well to deserve the bury your gays label.
I guess thats fair, im just so used to seeing it that anytime people even get hinted at dying im just like for fuck sake. So it might have been an over reaction on my end
@@ThinkBoxChris honestly id absolutely agree if they were the only lgbt characters and their entire arc was about being lgbt, but alongside snorpy/chandlo/floofty and the fact that their arc is mostly about self growth as a duo (if that makes any sense lol), i personally wouldnt see as bury your gays. i absolutely respect ur opinion tho, and tbh i also get scared when i see gay characters start to have a tragic storyline lol
No im with you and i can understand why the girls being dead wouldnt count to most people since the boys and scientist are just fine i just didnt realize they were alive at the end so thought theyd be thst trope. Im glad they're not though
@@ThinkBoxChris oh yeah i totally get that ! im hoping another dlc/sequel shows them after the events of the main game but at the very least they arent dead lol
The DLC helps this I think because Eggabell and Lizbert get full confirmation they're both alive and living on the island, and both Floofty & Shelda get much more development. Chandlo also gets fleshed out more alongside his relationship with Snorpy and just... it's so glorious.
How are they conformed to be alive im working my way through and i dont really see it yet. And yeah everyone getting more time togeather and in general is amazing
@@ThinkBoxChris spoiler but completing the whole game and getting the true ending, the credits show Egg and Liz living on the island together the best they can as the snax slowly wear off. (Also if ya want lore, find the secret area and get the true ending) I adored the entire dlc so much, and I kinda really hope you do a sequel to this video for the DLC cause yea watching your stuff and is very fun
You mean the triangle stuff right? Or do i need to do the whole mail side quest thing too? Cause that might be to much effort for me to work on the video with 😅. The dlc is great and i love the new stuff im just not 100% if i know what you mean. Cause i dod all the side quests in the base game and hot the picture of them together but i legot thought that was of them BEFORE everything because... well the island imploaded with them in the center
@@ThinkBoxChris the mail you don't hafta do, you just need the triangle key and to get to the area. Also yea Liz & Egg got more credit art showing them living on the island in the true ending. And fair but considering you can sew the place is intact and Buddy & Filbo ask Clumby to tell everyone to not go to Snaktooth, it's still up and running.
omg yes, this video is so good. I was waiting for someone to do an analysis on the characters rather than the game itself. The grumps are so well written it literally makes my heart melt whenever the couples are on screen. ❤️
I think thats because of the nature of the game seems very kid friendly so they talk about that rather than the emotional core of the game. Plus its really gay and most people either don't care, dont want upset the conservatives in their audiance, or don't want youtuber algorithm to deem them advertiser unfriendly. Thank you though im so happy people are liking this i thought it was a niche topic no one would want to hear about it
very happy i found this video! there's been a lot of shitpost-y type videos that praise the game as a joke, and while those are funny, it is nice to see some actual analysis of the characters. do you have any plans to go back to the game when the update/dlc drops?
Oh yeah totally i literally forgot i saw the trailer for that when does it drop again? I might stream it. And thank you ive never seen anyone talk about the game besidez like girlfriend review so i thought id give my hot take.
@@ThinkBoxChris Sorry for necroposting, butttttt... The Completionist also did a real review which got me personally into this fever dream of a masterpiece.
Ok, cool im glad you got into it, im a little lost as to the point of you bringing it up in this comment thread. Saying in general is fine just curious as to why you picked here to verbalize it
I don't know how many times I've watched this it's just so good. You made a lot of the points I had about the game and it's a very well structured video. I really wish there were more videos like this on Bugsnax.It's a great game for that sort of thing. Other than that,great video!
Aww thank you, i never actually see people talk about the game besides like the base review style so i thought I'd do something unique. Thank you so much i really appreciate comments like this
I kind of love all these LGBT stealth releases, like this, Celeste, and Timespinner, particularly when I buy them for the game and then discover the representation.
As someone who just recently platinumed this game, as well as had the DLC content from the go, I think Floofty and Shelda got some nice development from the dlc missions - especially having the two interact and have to rely on the other to learn new information and a new perspective!
This is. An amazing video. Bugsnax has some of the best representation and characters I've ever seen and you really put it all into words in the most perfect way possible. I'm going to watch this a million times over now thanks
"Its not a big deal" *makes it a big deal* Lmao, I loved this game, and this video really highlights why. Great job on this! Loved the puns especially.
I might have missed that detail i was trying to speed run the game for this video so some details are hazy but my point is still that she stopped and respected him enough to do so
@@ThinkBoxChris they should make it where you could have a dialogue option "Let's have a nice walk" Snorpy catches on and takes them somewhere they can't be heard and you can tell him what happened
20:14 I do agree with that during the game when I play it, I just feel like the journalist is doing all these tasks so they can get the information that they need out of everybody and they can finally go home. At least in the beginning in my head canon, the journalist starts to care more about the grumpeses around them instead of just the information that they have, and they do end up making friends.
It's rare to see character analysis about this game and, I totally agree Chandlo and Snorpy legit have to be the best relationship, though Wambus and Triffany also nudge in close. It really do be surprising to just... See a casual relationship. Where the focus is not "Look at how gay we are" but rather show a relationship and character and they just so happen to be homosexual. Add in the whole 'dependence on Snax as a coping mechanism' plot line and you really do gotta wonder how Indie Games can blow stuff out of the water like this. *And it was made by the guys who made a game about an octopus acting like a human.*
Oh thanks, yeah i just saw people talk about the games mechanics but never really the characters. And if they did it was always wiggles and her thing, never our boys. The whole game just deals with so many themes that its hard not to be impressed. And i did not know they made octo dad, then again i never really checked, but still cool
Yeah, it's kinda crazy really, but definitely goes to show ya they put some good effort into making a compelling argument to help these folk out. One video I came across touched on the crux of bugsnax and detailed Crondo who viewed it as a way to get out of his dead end job, where as Beffica in contrast viewed it as a means of escapism - the only thing she could trust to remain consistent. Bugsnax is really dark and I love it - and it isn't needlessly dark, either, it's just a pretty all too real situation.
I wouldnt call it dark, id say its more grounded. It takes the concept of food that changes your body and turn it into a persona esk story where the characters you meet have lives beyond the game. Some hard heavey but not like dark its not like crondo is destitute hes just having a mid life crisis. I said in the video that these two are very similar but opposed and i stand by that, befica just wanted to further her career but needed a big scoop abd is a gossip, crondo wants to restart his but is to brash for his own good. I like that it's real
Aye, though definitely can point at Bugsnax being a sort of drug addiction. I mean everyone literally isolates themselves and try to gleam meaning or inspiration from the things. Wiggle literally is trying to get the same high she got when she made a hit when she was on a three day bender as you said. You know that actually begs the question - and one of the cool things is that Gramble is nothing but show don't tell. Definitely seems like something horrid occurred and made him care more for animals than trust people who'd probably desert or leave him.
Oh yeah they're applicable to drugs, literally transforming your body and doing irreversible things to it, its kinda scary in a way. But the way its used is clever and is done in a way you can get it but not think of how people actually do drugs irl. That makes me natious just thinking about it. I assume gramble is just a hippy not doing the thing out of principle, he grew up on a farm but unlike wambus took to the live stock as pets not products. Wambus clearly saw the business end and thus thinks of these things as a resource not friends. Maybe there's some daddy issues but otherwise i just think its two sides of the coin
I'd love to see a ind of "update" video about the relationships that are shown in Bugsnax with the new DLC that came out. It gave a huge insight about Snorpy's Mindset with Chandlo asking questions with Floofy, and how that Chandlo is just as worried as Snorpy is, but in a different way.
Chandle, the steriotype jock who isnt a steriotype because he is dating the steriotype nerd, chandlo is so freakin awsome, he is the coolest character and the way he acts when he first meets you is great, he isnt reluctant like the other, he would gladdly go back to snaxburg, but he wants to stay with snorpy, his relation ship and how he acts and his personality makes him the most lovable charqcter in the game
I thought I was gonna hate him because jock characters always annoy me. Now he's one of my favorites. He's just so nice to everyone, and I always feel happy when I have a quest with him!
*OMG LOOK AT CHANDLO AND SNORPYS PICTURESS IT MIGHT NOT BE A LOT BUT IM SURE SNORPY AND CHANDLO ARE PROUD OF EACHOTHER, I LOVE THEM SO MUCHHH THEIR SO WHOLESOME AHHHHH-* 💖 *dies of wholesomeness*
I honestly love every character. Even the ones I didn't like initially are solid. Floofty is just fun in that they're not just insufferable, they're passionate about science and will dive head first into dangerous experiments on themselves. Icon. Snorpy is absolutely adorable in his obliviousness. Every time he gets flustered gets me. And Chandlo just being like "bro, we've been a thing for ages", aaaaaaahhhh, so wholesome. I love this game so much
Yeah thats the thing i really dont think theres a bad character and the one who was deemed bad was fixed in the dlc. This games just got steller writing
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@@ThinkBoxChris i think that when the game released,(i think) other people said that It's ugly and boring or other horrible things and i don't understand why? But yeah the game is not THAT bad
Its not even bad its just not trying to be something like red dead redemption or even mario its an indy team working on a unique idea with a budget and actual voice acting. God i miss that in ganes every indy game either has grunts or no voices and its just not my thing. i don't get people sometimes
Crazy how a pokemon inspired game with wacky ass muppet characters you can absolutely ruin the bodies of with weird food creatures has more natural inclusion and diversity than most pieces of media
its a reason why i love this game! the relationships are so sweet, and it shows actual healthy gay relationships too. many things are represented in this game that many people dont see, and its why its so fun to play! legit completed it about 9 times.
Thank you i honrstly made this on a whim i wasnt trying to make a big statement or anything i just liked how the game did things and wanted to talk about it. People like you guys commenting is honestly the biggest highlight of my day. Thank you
No joke, I have a Goblin warlock with this exact name, so imagine my surprise when I see a video in my recommendations calling my DnD character homosexual!
This is an amazing watch!!! I love Bugsnax for a multitude of reasons, but the themes of relationships is definitely my favorite. You’ve earned a new subscriber! (PS: sorry you’re getting all these weird new hate comments by people who have obviously not played the game)
Haha its fine im used to homophobes theyre just salty people exsit. Thank you though it means the world, i wanna stream the dlc here soon i havent played it yet because of all the positive feed back yall have given me on this video, i cant wait to see how that turns out whenever my new monitor arrives
A really Awesome video! I’m low key shocked you don’t have more subscribers lol. I was half watching a streamer play this game so I didn’t pick up on most of the relationships until the lizbert and eggabell scene and I was FLOORED. As much as I try to find it, I rarely see lgbtq+ relationships in games, especially ones that aren’t treated as a selling point. Seeing not only multiple, but said relationships being seen as normal as the other ones was so cool. That’s not even mentioning all the other relationships you mentioned in the video. It just makes me so happy to see (imo) well done relationships of all kinds lmao Have a pleasant day all!^_^
Honestly; I talked about it when I first played, and played through it again just recently. But I'm a small channel; where few people watch, or read my tweets. My game save got lost as well; when I went back to play the new DLC, I just finished the game a second time.
Oh my god really? Thats amazing I'm glad I could be what got you into this lovely little community. Thank you for saying that because it really genuinely made my day.
Are you looking forward to the new content coming soon? It looks like we're gonna get more of Chandlo, Floofty, Shelda, and Triffany ineracting together
Chandlo and Snorpy are so codependent on each other while also so emotionally isolated. They care for each other deeply, but they never talk about what it is that's really bothering them. Chandlo didn't tell Snorpy why it was important to him to be able to lift that stump. Snorpy didn't tell him why he climbed a mountain. In fact, I don't think they share their fears/insecurities with each other most of the time, except for when it was implied after the bigsnax island adventure and the end of the game. (I wish we got to see more of their intimate conversations, but I understand why it wasn't included.) And despite that, almost everything they do is for the other person. They are so enmeshed with each other that they freak out when the other isn't where they are expected to be, or when they're not easily reachable. They are each other's safety net that they are terrified of using. And I really appreciate seeing that dynamic in a game aimed at children, because that can happen in relationships sometimes and it's important to teach people early in life that mutual loyalty doesn't automatically equal a healthy relationship. There needs to be communication and trust; and though that wasn't their intentions, Snorpy and Chandlo still didn't trust each other to handle themselves, and that was the biggest thing they had to let go of. Extra: It was hilarious listening to Chandlo as they tried to keep calm in the dlc: "It's okay, Chandlo, you'll be fine. Time apart is healthy." Boy was on the verge of imploding.
Yeah i agree its important to show how even healthy couples can be co dependent, but its also kinda their arch to become more open and independent i like it
Extra info for those who don't have the Field Guide that came with the physical release, and for those who didn't play the DLC; Spoilers Ahead for the DLC Snorpy is paranoid because he tried to blow the whistle that the government was using he and Floofty's research into prosthetics for nefarious purposes (most likely military), and the government immediately lead a smear campaign against him and Floofty. The two argued about whether or not to pull the plug and reveal what the government was doing, Floofty knowing they could help people with the prosthetics even at the cost, and Snorpy believing the cost of life was to great. Also in the DLC, its revealed a secret organisation descent from Grumpbeards crew began research into Bugsnax and Snaxtooth Island, even spring on Beronica Lottablog (Tiffany's Granny) when she led an expedition to Snaktooth It's even implied they tried to make her the Third Queen of Bugsnak (oh yeah, they confirm there was at least *two* before Eggabel and Lizbert) In the field guide, its explained where Gramble gets his issues from. To quote the book, "His parents disappeared when he was a kid, and he wound up raising himself." "He recently got fired from a pet store after refusing to sell even one of them." Back to the DLC, its also explained who the mysterious voice is at the end of the True Ending, and gives bonus info on Clumby On Beffica and Cromdo, since the field guide gives info the game only hints at; Cromdo became a snake oil salesman after his divorce cost him everything, and has a long history of crime. Beffica is also interesting. She used to work for the enemy companion our character works for. We work for GNN, she used to work for GMZ, and her methods of obtaining information were illegal. She actually caused the company she worked for to crumble after she blew the whistle on *something* her boss did (we're not told what)
@@ThinkBoxChris I didn't either, thankfully the DLC was free and gave more content and info on side characters (Tiffany, Chandlo, Shelda, and Floofty), and someone I knew had a link to a Google drive with the entire field guide scanned
@@ThinkBoxChris Also, to point out, the DLC develops further the relatipn between shelda and floofty, where at the start they don't want to collaborate in their researches, but they then realize how each other helps, and even, shows how triffany shows concern between the conflict and such, rather doing the things alone, than create more conflict, but in the end of the DLC, they all collaborate
Idk about the bury your gays part. Beyond the "they may be alive!!" part, for me bury your gays isn't just about a queer character dying, it has so much more to do with killing off the only queer character, exploiting gay suffering or punishing a character for being gay. Eggabell and Lizbert, to me, are characters who happen to be in a lesbian relationship, as in being lesbians isn't the reason why they "die". As a lesbian, is it weird to me that this happens to the only lesbian couple? Yes, but it feels much more like a conclusion of their arc than a bury your gays moment. Still, great video! I really like this game and it's so nice to see someone so passionate even if I found this video some years later.
Yeah i definitely misused that phrase when i made this and thsts my bad, but still thanks for the comment. I loved this game so much i really need to replay it
interesting vid but i feel it was a little heavy on the insults of the artstyle idk but relationship analysis was solid so I'm not too upset glad this game is still getting discussion
I wasnt really insulting the art style. I actually like how the game looks. Calling them muppet rejects was really the only thing i could think of to make a jab at the games design.
i always bring this game up when talking about good lgbtq representation. not only are there two gay couples that show the ups and downs of real relationships, but also a non binary character who gets effortlessly gendered by everyone! it's almost funny that a kids game with characters called "grumpuses" has better queer rep than some adult games
Most adult games tbh, and yeah i agree. Although the term kids anything rubs me the wrong way because this game has a pretty substantial adult audience and i dont think that should be discounted. I hear to therm kids *blank* thrown around as a way to shoot a thing down so idk maybe its a me thing but you're completely right
@@ThinkBoxChris I should call it a game for general audiences. The tone is mostly light and the colours are bright, but that doesn't undermine the subtle horror in the game. Anyone can enjoy Bugsnax and that's beautiful
I like to shove pride stuff under the rug and bat an eye, since although I am pretty stubborn with my stance on lgbtq, I genuinely LOVE this game and can’t wait for the sequel. I like to think the reason floofty is referred to as they is because floofty is kinda crazy and on one knows what they are exactly. They are their leg after it turned to strabby, had us throw acid in their face, and even tried to cut off their own head to see if bugsnax would make it grow back, and spoilers, it would probably not.
Huh maybe it was her body was orange so i just didnt notice but those srent native to the beach so at leach she went out of her way to not bother his snaxs
Im planning on finishing the dlc this week on stream then do a straught gameplay recording to really focus on things im definitely planning on taking a closer look at the dynamics there
Thanks to the DLC as well Chandlo and Snorpy get 3 bosses out of the 5. Snorpy gets the Daddy Cake Legs while Chandlo gets both Mama Mewon and Chedderbordle Rex (ik Shelda, Floofty and Triffany where there 2 but Chandlo was the one to eat the boss)
this game is a masterpiece at the start its a fun cute game but you get to see the ppl evolve and become friends and over time its wonderful game and the horror aspects are wonderful if you have not played this game you should
Hey why you gotta do the grumeses like that! 😂 I love them all so much their characters are so well thought out! And I think their designs are cute! Edit: You roasted them good lol.
@@ThinkBoxChris I know I thought it was funny! You see me and my friends like to roast each other but when one of our roasts are really good, we like to say damn why do you do him like that? lol I guess you might not get it because you don’t know the context sorry about that. And I’m just saying how much I love the characters. I guess just never mind me I’m dumb. But overall I was just trying to come off as funny and positive.
Ah, I thought that friends with benefits were something like my mother, people befriended her because of the fact that at 3pm her fam has snack time, so they could have snacks, turns out I’m wrong
Thats fair, but ive met people who live on farms and have good family ties who act like he does about pets. Some people just react differently to similar situations. Plus wambus is just more used to the sales aside of thibg where as gramble was more of a sensative indoor soul helpin mawmaw with dinner
I saw this video a while ago but didn’t watch it feeling like it was going to insult it, but when I watched it I realized it was the opposite Also In my opinion, Snorpy and Chandlo is the best relationship.
Aww im sorry i did make the title thats way on pourpose so people would notice it. Im sorry if it cane off like 2012 teenage boy vibe haha. And yes the boys are the best
im not sure if wiggles and gramble are confirmed to actually be dating but wiggles does have a side quest (or more accurately beffica does) that shows wiggle actually attempting to eat some of grambles bugsnax as a midnight snack
They're pretty much a couple, and theyre adorable so it works in my mind. I cant remeber that sude quest though beffica sends you to spy on people a lot so they blend togeather but while i was wrong in that sje never tries she still never succeeds. Its a moment if weakness we help her through and i like that
@@ThinkBoxChris fair enough, they are adorable I agree :D and yeah if she ever did succeed i dont doubt she would feel horrible if she could even bring herself to eat any I honestly loved your vid you explained everything so well and it was such a fun watch so have a lovely day! :))
Hahaha and i found that way to funny. I just called them that because people keep saying we get forced into everything so I was like "well ok how does it make you feel" and went from there
Haha their brash nature and fact people hate them makes it so they don't get much attention by the player and the story. So i completely understandable how that happens
A sorta counterpoint to Eggablle n Lizbert section: I rlly don't think they count as "bury ur gays". The bury your gays trope comes from writers wanting to get brownie points for putting queer rep, but not wanting to continue w it so they kill them off. It's bad bc they make characters just to make "representation", don't flesh out the characters at all, then kill them off. But Eggebelle and Lizbert aren't that, they're fleshed out characters, sure it's mostly in flashbacks but we still actually see their characters. And honestly, I don't see anything wrong w them being flawed. I think we should get flawed queer characters, ofc I'm fine w heroic or nice queer characters but giving them flaws and showing they're not 100% perfect ppl makes them more realistic. Ofc I'd wish we got to see more of them, and agree with getting extra screentime for Eggabelle, but I don't ar all find them having flaws and probably dying at the end that bad. If we can get flawed straight couples where one or both die at the end, I think we should get more of that with queer characters too
Im not saying theyre perfect or that their flaws are bad in fact i love their story i wish we saw more of it. The reason i called it bury your gays was because they're just the lesbians who are important and then die. Ik that soubds harsh and it is to a degree but my point is that i just dont wany queer people to die in general for a hot minute just like no. If theres a protag cant die rule in most sorites i want that too
@@ThinkBoxChris they're not dead? (tho i get it can be confusing. more photos were added 2 the end credits when the dlc dropped so that it's more clear they're alive)
@@ThinkBoxChris RUclips in general since this was the first time I even saw you, but it was a really good video! I honestly had no idea about some of the information like Floofty being non-binary and Chandlo and Snorpy already dating lol
Oh well thank you im glad im what you came for. And its super intresting stuff if you do all the sude quests. Floofty being NB is never said but how they're talked about and refered to is what tips it off. Like snorpy calls them sibling not sister or brother
Little correction on the Eggabelle and Lizbert section: it isn't actually a case of Bury Your Gays because the ending picture of the two on the beach is post-game, just like all the other pics. They DID make it out.
I always assumed that was taken when they got there, idk how they would have survived though
@@ThinkBoxChris In the ending, Filbo mentions the Snakification effects wears off. Which explains why all the Grumpuses are back to normal (except Floofty’s leg is replaced with a robot leg). It could mean Lizbert and Eggabell “Queen of Bugsnax” effect wore off when the Bugsnax were subdued.
I suppose but idk it just feels like they were meant to die, not that i want them to its just how i initally saw it
@@ThinkBoxChris I mean they did say “ we both survived so much on our own imagine us together!” So I guess it would make sense
I suppose but im gonna guess thats sequel or dlc fodder if anything
Honestly when we return from broken tooth and Snorpy almost called Chandlo "my love" it honestly made me happy and made me laugh so much
Yes! It was so tender and cute i want a sequel that advances this stuff
Me too 😆 they are so dang cute.
Why that scene specifically? There's lots of scenes of him crushing on beef boi lol
@@shiverfan4867 I loved all the scenes! But the fact that he actually cut himself off from saying "MY LOVE" made me laugh so much!
Fun thing is this; Shelda, Floofty, Triffany, and Chandlo, all characters who needed more development because besides their own character quests , they either didnt get much dedication or were overshadowed in writing by their partners(Wambus to Triffany and Snorpy to Floofty respectively) are the characters we get to accompany on the journey to the new Island in the expansion! Its so great!
Yeah i noticed that, and the dlc was great it worked out
"I'M LIFTIN' YOUR CRIB DAWG"
i played bugnsax with the dlc already in it. I couldnt imagine seeing them just with base game development, im glad they got more down the line
I think Shelda gets a bad rep. She does "consume the toxins", going against her own teachings, but she also acknowledges her own failings and genuinely wants the other Grumps to be better than her.
Yeah she's written really well, her bit just drags for me
I can definitely see that.
To me it's her weird phrasing more than anything. Speaking in metaphors doesn't really help either. Some players just seem to zone out while talking to her.
I try not to but shes not exsactly the most intresting
Shelda definitely grew on me in the Isle of Bigsnax. i like seeing her regular side more without the metaphors and wise talk
honestly isle of bigsnax is def good at developing her, i 100%ed the game first time around and i lowkey hated shelda but now shes pretty chill. i vibe with shelda
Snorpy and chandlo are so cute especially in the new dlc where they have to be apart for once. It’s really nice seeing chandlo working without snorpy by his side all the time
Yeah i found that super interesting because it makes things so much more fun. Chandlo has real growth and it makes the ending much more satisfying
The best thing i really like about Bugsnax is how they made the characters represent the LGBT.
Normal. People.
Not an exaggerated personality of "hey, my whole sexuality is my whole personality!" It's nice to see the grumpuses act on their own without visibly showing off their sexuality.
I mean they do, thats kinda the point of the video. Snorpy and chandlo are obnoxiously into one another eggable and liz never have a bad thing to say about one another and floofty is just straight up non binary.
I think what you mean is that they're not stereotypes they dont scream im gay and thats all, healthy representation as it should be.
@@ThinkBoxChris i agree. Should've worded that better lol.
It’s refreshing honestly, too many games and people are like that and it’s just kind of overwhelming
I understood you and I usually don't understand things so I think you did very well
Ehh, I've learned to take "they made it their whole personality" as a criticism with a massive grain of salt because 9 times out of ten when someone's complaining about that's standard for 'making it their whole personality' is "acknowledging we exist in ways that can't be easily dismissed or ignored"
When I started this game I absolutely loved seeing the queer representation, I'll be honest I cried a little and I absolutely adore the character central side quest and character arc in a game where you catch food pokemon, personally I prefer the animation to the Pokemon games-
I fell in love with Gramble as a character specifically because I identified with him a lot, especially as an awkward trans person that takes refuge with animals and feels weird with other people. I genuinely love the characters and the story lines this game has, which leaves me so excited about the DLC because there's new content with some characters I feel like we didn't get to vibe with much.
Chandlo, Triffany, Floofty, and Shelda, likely a few other characters too later on
Yeah i can understand that, i didnt really resonate that strongly with one character i more saw aspects of myself in all of them which was rather refreshing in a game. I cant wait yo see what the team has in store its gonns be great
Pretty sure he just a vegan with trust issues and who also loves parasites
I think it’s also worth noting that Wambus seems somewhat Right-wing coded, yet is still given his own arc and still comes off as likable, even if a little abrasive. He also is just as accepting of the gay couples as everyone else, even though he butts heads with Gramble, who seems to be left-wing coded. I just thought was interesting to see.
I absolutely love that too its so good that everyone is likeable even shelda gets better in the dlc
how can you squeeze so much from fucking bugsnax
Its good that is all
@@thegnarledpirate9198 because bugsnax gives a hell of a lot to squeeze from
as someone who is nonbinary and in a not straight realtionship this game and how the chacters are represented makes me really happy along with this video it's just goes down straight into detail about how relatable some (if not most) of these chacters are and that's just amazing.
This is such a good analysis! I agree with the point that Filbo is kinda just...there, at times. Which is a shame cause I feel like his whole "feeling inadequate" deal is pretty relatable. Glad I found this vid ^^
Thank you, i thought it was intresting how this game kinda got overlooked when its really good.
i think it's a toriel situation. she has a good character, and she's a good part of the lore, but she's not actually really..there in the game because she's just a tutorial character.
I only watched RTGames' comp video for the game....so I had no clue Wiggle and Gramble were a thing, I thought she was just trying to get close to him for his bugsnax cause of how much was still left out of that video.
Haha yeah i can see that ive seen his compilation too so yeah it glosses over a lot. Thats why i didnt watch his dlc one till id played it because i wanted context. Wiggles and gramble are really sweet actually and they have a super good dynamic that is really nice to see
The amount of people that say "at least they didn't make being gay their entire personality" are just prrof that we need more good representation like this.
The stereotypes have been used for so long it's the default that is thought of when mentioning queer people in media. Luckily games like Bugsnax and shows like the owl house and our flag means death are doing an amazing job at fixing these issues.
Yeah being just gay is a product of bad writing not gay people our selves. Not to mention that when people say that they just mean someone they can tell is gay, okay i can tell you're straight based on your 3 in 1 soap kyle stop making it your whole personality
As a lesbian , seeing eggabell and Liz made me SO HAPPY. Like they made me jump for joy. They chose to be together, they chose to go together. They chose to stay even if it meant transforming their bodies. They chose EACHOTHER!! It’s so hard to find non toxic lesbian rep it’s like finding a needle in a haystack. They made me feel so seen.
Yeah that is true. I talk a lot about how sapphic parings are shown more in games/animation but it hadn't really struck me they're almost all toxic. Akilic parings are rarer but they almost always are background dads, dead, or uwu soft bois and i think we need to get more to comfortable intween where they're just good more than not
I agree, it's nice not being misgendered
Yes it is
Chandlo trying to get smart & Snorpy is trying to get strong! These two are what I call relationship goals and literally caring about your partners interest to the point where you will put yourself into them so you know more and can be like your partner! I love these two to a tea!
I was strongly considering making my own representation video for Bugsnax, but after watching this, I don't think I need to! You've covered everything more eloquently than I would have, and that's amazing. You've even got the official video voice. Excellent work.
The only unmentioned tidbit that I can think of is that they got a non-binary voice actor to play the non-binary character, and that's a fantastic touch.
Oh wow thank you that means a lot, i did work hard on this but i dodnt think i did that amazing of a job. Thank you again, and espically for my viice ive tried to fone tune it a lot for this job im glad its working.
And thats super cool i dodnt know that, i typically dont go into voices unless its a very particular reason and it just never occurred to me to look into the games imdb. Still an awseome factoid.
their gender dimorphism confuses me but i think it's a teeth/tusk thing if you look at most of them the men have upward facing tucks( i think the exceptions and also if the muzzle is more dog-like both genders have tusks ) taking that into account i put a bet on Gramble being trans he has down facing teeth
Thats a very fair possibility, come to think of it now that youve brought that up I'd say yeah hes definitely like a lot of the trabs men i know. Anxious, small, irrationally afraid people are going to fuck them over, hunched over, has to be force fed (not literally but like you have to remind them to eat) and in general yeah he adds up
But going by that is means Chandlo is also trans which I don't believe he is.
You could be right! But I think it's a little more complicated 😭
@@pareesgillard Chandlo has a different face type both genders have down facing tusks so he's not trans
If so that really puts the potential abandonment issues in a new light
fun fact in the dlc there is a bug that specificaly hates eggabelle and eggs in general
the tikada masala
it hates
eggler
deviled eggler
and eggabelle
it honestly is funny how many egg puns they make with eggabelle like eggloo
but yeah I love all grumpuses with my fave being floofty I love their personality and dialogue
also the bosses in chandlo and snorpy’s share naming system with mama mewon and daddy cakelegs
with the bosses being the mother of the wee mewons and the father of the baby cakelegs
even their bosses are connected to eachother
Chandlo and Snorpy are the most amazing gays I've seen in fictional media. Full stop. Period. I love them! And they're just so cute!!
I love the game for making their characters so lively and relatable. The LGBTQ+ references fit in perfectly too and make it all more real in some way. Though sadly I've seen a lot of people complain about it in the weirdest of ways. They all fall back on the 'Ew this is a game for children' argument.
Ive never got that i think more kids aimed at children and familes should have this stuff because its important. What else do they complain about? Like have they just been ew gay or is there something else they try to complain about?
Honestly i dont see how they're anymore forced or unnatural than the hetero ones. Their relationships in a game based on collecting food creatures theyre not meeded but they're nice. Animal crossing is a game about building a town and is made by nintendo they dont ruffel feathers these days they just make money. Here the games about the town these people live and and theyre dynamics be they paltonic or romantic, and thats why its great
@@ThinkBoxChris It genuinely just seems like it's an "eww gay" thing.
No i get that, i just like hearing the legths homophobes go to to make us the bad guys. It can get pretty funny after a while
@@ThinkBoxChris Oh same. Some teenage girl hit on me unprompted a few months ago and started freaking out when I mentioned A) I'm not comfortable dating anyone younger than 20 at my current age, and B) I'm gay.
Honestly Shelda's probably my favorite character other than Triffany. So glad her character was expanded upon in the DLC; hopefully if there's a sequel she'll show up. Then again Shelda IS canonically around 70, so who knows. I just have a tendency to be biased towards older characters because most of the people I know around my age aren't relatable at all.
Eggabell and Lizbert really didn't have much impact on...anything until nearly the end of the game, it's a shame. But they were interesting while they were there.
Im starting to find more people my age that i can relate to, so its kinda nice to see people in their 20s that i can actually like. I was the kid who hung out with the teachers though so shelda was a nice nastaolgia hit.
Yeah they were plot divices at the end of the day, which i mean i get but im not super trilled with. I really wanted to spend time with them before they went missing
@@ThinkBoxChris I hope I can find friends as well. I seem to have a tendency to attract horrible "Wow, you should be on an FBI watchlist" types of individuals; at least a few people have stayed in my life. And yeah, I was definitely the kid who hung out with the teachers as well.
Ultimately I'm just glad Liz and Egg were in the game at all, one of the main writers said his/their[? not sure of pronoun] original plan was to have at least Eggabell die.
@@hawktalon7890 Yeah, the original game was suppose to be like a proper horror game but I’m glad the team went a different way with the game because I feel like if Bugsnax was just full on horror game, it would just have a different feeling on a person, a feeling of fascination but an also terrible shameful feeling which would probably give the game a really off-putting similarity to other games. The game we were given gives a lot more heart-warming moments which makes the game feel like you’re actually dealing with real life problems and strategies. The ending gives the player a much more suitable chance for them to think about the game and the opportunities that have been opened for possible continuations, game or not.
Also, on a few Bugsnax gameplay stream videos, I said that the game was basically a My First Evangelion which kind of makes you realise that not only is it quite unique for a psychological horror but also quite excellent as a family game. So I stand on that mountain of Bugsnax=My First Evangelion and I will personally wait for any agreers of that idea.
Also also, I haven’t actually played the game. For some reason, I always find a RUclips video of something and sometimes that becomes one of my hyper-fixations which means I watch more and more videos, but I always never seem to actually experience the actual thing which means I’ve now basically spoiled myself so congratulations me.
Also also also (I apologise if I drag on a bit too much), I’ve been kinda been making my own AU, not only adding in my own journalist OC but also continuing the events of Bugsnax after the very end of the game so I’ve kind of made my own sequel to the game. I would love to share the ideas I have but it is unfinished, I can’t think of many ideas, I don’t have the time or energy to write these stories fully and I have no idea if I want to post them and if so, where to post them. If I get ideas then someday I could shine my creations onto the internet for the Snakmoots (don’t ask) to see. And to end this comment, yes I can’t decide on a favourite grump.
Well, good night folks!
I really enjoy this analysis! I think you cover all the characters really well. And as a person who is very much in the LGBTQ+ I loved the representation, and how the game didn't shove it in your face like "look how progressive we are!!! Give us money!" This game in general is such a comfort, oddly. But yeah great video, hope it gets more attention because it's been 4 months and only has like 658 something views
I hope we get more characterization for Floofty and Shelda with the new DLC. I think we will because they're two of the four characters we'll get to interact with on the Isle of Bigsnax, and I think they were especially chosen because they were last and have the least interaction with the player as a result, so fingers crossed!
I think so too, i think theyve both got great characterization but the screen timen is lacking so im with you on that one
Well I've got great news!
Your wish has come true
Finally nice to see floofty not being misgendered lmao
This is a great analysis of the character-dynamics! Thank you!
I would like to push back against one point you mage though: I do NOT think Eggabel and Lizbert's story fits the bury your gays stereotype. With half of the cast being canonically explicitly queer and most of them surviving (plus the hint from the endcredits Liz and Egg might still be alive) their story arc is not a cheap trick to appease the gay-phobic audience, but rather the dramatic conclusion to the main story whose central couple happens to be one of the queer ones.
The problem with bury your gays is that it's a cheap copout of delivering real representation in a lot of media while still being able to include a token gay character/couple.
Bugsnax handles representation and inclusion in general and th Egg-Liz-storyline way too well to deserve the bury your gays label.
I guess thats fair, im just so used to seeing it that anytime people even get hinted at dying im just like for fuck sake. So it might have been an over reaction on my end
@@ThinkBoxChris honestly id absolutely agree if they were the only lgbt characters and their entire arc was about being lgbt, but alongside snorpy/chandlo/floofty and the fact that their arc is mostly about self growth as a duo (if that makes any sense lol), i personally wouldnt see as bury your gays. i absolutely respect ur opinion tho, and tbh i also get scared when i see gay characters start to have a tragic storyline lol
No im with you and i can understand why the girls being dead wouldnt count to most people since the boys and scientist are just fine i just didnt realize they were alive at the end so thought theyd be thst trope. Im glad they're not though
@@ThinkBoxChris oh yeah i totally get that ! im hoping another dlc/sequel shows them after the events of the main game but at the very least they arent dead lol
Yes i completely agrre
The DLC helps this I think because Eggabell and Lizbert get full confirmation they're both alive and living on the island, and both Floofty & Shelda get much more development. Chandlo also gets fleshed out more alongside his relationship with Snorpy and just... it's so glorious.
How are they conformed to be alive im working my way through and i dont really see it yet. And yeah everyone getting more time togeather and in general is amazing
@@ThinkBoxChris spoiler but completing the whole game and getting the true ending, the credits show Egg and Liz living on the island together the best they can as the snax slowly wear off. (Also if ya want lore, find the secret area and get the true ending) I adored the entire dlc so much, and I kinda really hope you do a sequel to this video for the DLC cause yea watching your stuff and is very fun
You mean the triangle stuff right? Or do i need to do the whole mail side quest thing too? Cause that might be to much effort for me to work on the video with 😅. The dlc is great and i love the new stuff im just not 100% if i know what you mean. Cause i dod all the side quests in the base game and hot the picture of them together but i legot thought that was of them BEFORE everything because... well the island imploaded with them in the center
@@ThinkBoxChris the mail you don't hafta do, you just need the triangle key and to get to the area. Also yea Liz & Egg got more credit art showing them living on the island in the true ending. And fair but considering you can sew the place is intact and Buddy & Filbo ask Clumby to tell everyone to not go to Snaktooth, it's still up and running.
omg yes, this video is so good. I was waiting for someone to do an analysis on the characters rather than the game itself. The grumps are so well written it literally makes my heart melt whenever the couples are on screen. ❤️
I think thats because of the nature of the game seems very kid friendly so they talk about that rather than the emotional core of the game. Plus its really gay and most people either don't care, dont want upset the conservatives in their audiance, or don't want youtuber algorithm to deem them advertiser unfriendly.
Thank you though im so happy people are liking this i thought it was a niche topic no one would want to hear about it
very happy i found this video! there's been a lot of shitpost-y type videos that praise the game as a joke, and while those are funny, it is nice to see some actual analysis of the characters. do you have any plans to go back to the game when the update/dlc drops?
Oh yeah totally i literally forgot i saw the trailer for that when does it drop again? I might stream it. And thank you ive never seen anyone talk about the game besidez like girlfriend review so i thought id give my hot take.
@@ThinkBoxChris i dont think theres a set date yet, the trailer just said early 2022!
Still im excited can't wait
@@ThinkBoxChris Sorry for necroposting, butttttt... The Completionist also did a real review which got me personally into this fever dream of a masterpiece.
Ok, cool im glad you got into it, im a little lost as to the point of you bringing it up in this comment thread. Saying in general is fine just curious as to why you picked here to verbalize it
I don't know how many times I've watched this it's just so good.
You made a lot of the points I had about the game and it's a very well structured video.
I really wish there were more videos like this on Bugsnax.It's a great game for that sort of thing.
Other than that,great video!
Aww thank you, i never actually see people talk about the game besides like the base review style so i thought I'd do something unique.
Thank you so much i really appreciate comments like this
I kind of love all these LGBT stealth releases, like this, Celeste, and Timespinner, particularly when I buy them for the game and then discover the representation.
Yeah thats always a plus. I did the same thing with haven but i also saw the couples update trailer so i kinda knew
As someone who just recently platinumed this game, as well as had the DLC content from the go, I think Floofty and Shelda got some nice development from the dlc missions - especially having the two interact and have to rely on the other to learn new information and a new perspective!
Yeah they really got fleshed out and im really glad they did
Shelda and Floofty get more screentime together in the DLC thankfully
This is. An amazing video. Bugsnax has some of the best representation and characters I've ever seen and you really put it all into words in the most perfect way possible. I'm going to watch this a million times over now thanks
Thank you i really appreciate this
gotta love that all this is from the same game where british sonic says "SO THAT I MAY TASTE MY OWN TEETH, YOU SEE"
Omg that is Roger Craig Smith isnt it
also gotta love that funny bunger game is also the same game where Gramble Gigglefunny tells Wambus Troubleham "thats why your wife left you"
Haha yeah this games fuckin great its so character rich
and rich with stupid names 🙏
@@flophawk i saw a comment on another video that said that line triggered their fight or flight response and honestly same
So glad that Isle of Bigsnax focused on characters that didn’t get as much time as others.
"Its not a big deal"
*makes it a big deal*
Lmao, I loved this game, and this video really highlights why. Great job on this! Loved the puns especially.
11:21 correction: wiggle has tried to eat gramble's bugsnax before you can see it in beffica's sidequest
I might have missed that detail i was trying to speed run the game for this video so some details are hazy but my point is still that she stopped and respected him enough to do so
Its hilarious how Snorpy turns out to kinda be right especially after the new DLC
Yeah that is kinda nice. Which is also smart since he didnt come with us cause hed be freaking out
@@ThinkBoxChris they should make it where you could have a dialogue option
"Let's have a nice walk"
Snorpy catches on and takes them somewhere they can't be heard and you can tell him what happened
Oooh that sounds nice
20:14 I do agree with that during the game when I play it, I just feel like the journalist is doing all these tasks so they can get the information that they need out of everybody and they can finally go home. At least in the beginning in my head canon, the journalist starts to care more about the grumpeses around them instead of just the information that they have, and they do end up making friends.
You should definitely play the DLC. They elaborate more on Floofty and Shelda's character there!
Haha so ive heard im gunning for tomorrow night to stream it 😁
It's rare to see character analysis about this game and, I totally agree
Chandlo and Snorpy legit have to be the best relationship, though Wambus and Triffany also nudge in close. It really do be surprising to just...
See a casual relationship. Where the focus is not "Look at how gay we are" but rather show a relationship and character and they just so happen to be homosexual.
Add in the whole 'dependence on Snax as a coping mechanism' plot line and you really do gotta wonder how Indie Games can blow stuff out of the water like this.
*And it was made by the guys who made a game about an octopus acting like a human.*
Oh thanks, yeah i just saw people talk about the games mechanics but never really the characters. And if they did it was always wiggles and her thing, never our boys. The whole game just deals with so many themes that its hard not to be impressed.
And i did not know they made octo dad, then again i never really checked, but still cool
Yeah, it's kinda crazy really, but definitely goes to show ya they put some good effort into making a compelling argument to help these folk out. One video I came across touched on the crux of bugsnax and detailed Crondo who viewed it as a way to get out of his dead end job, where as Beffica in contrast viewed it as a means of escapism - the only thing she could trust to remain consistent.
Bugsnax is really dark and I love it - and it isn't needlessly dark, either, it's just a pretty all too real situation.
I wouldnt call it dark, id say its more grounded. It takes the concept of food that changes your body and turn it into a persona esk story where the characters you meet have lives beyond the game. Some hard heavey but not like dark its not like crondo is destitute hes just having a mid life crisis.
I said in the video that these two are very similar but opposed and i stand by that, befica just wanted to further her career but needed a big scoop abd is a gossip, crondo wants to restart his but is to brash for his own good. I like that it's real
Aye, though definitely can point at Bugsnax being a sort of drug addiction. I mean everyone literally isolates themselves and try to gleam meaning or inspiration from the things. Wiggle literally is trying to get the same high she got when she made a hit when she was on a three day bender as you said.
You know that actually begs the question - and one of the cool things is that Gramble is nothing but show don't tell.
Definitely seems like something horrid occurred and made him care more for animals than trust people who'd probably desert or leave him.
Oh yeah they're applicable to drugs, literally transforming your body and doing irreversible things to it, its kinda scary in a way. But the way its used is clever and is done in a way you can get it but not think of how people actually do drugs irl. That makes me natious just thinking about it.
I assume gramble is just a hippy not doing the thing out of principle, he grew up on a farm but unlike wambus took to the live stock as pets not products. Wambus clearly saw the business end and thus thinks of these things as a resource not friends. Maybe there's some daddy issues but otherwise i just think its two sides of the coin
I'd love to see a ind of "update" video about the relationships that are shown in Bugsnax with the new DLC that came out. It gave a huge insight about Snorpy's Mindset with Chandlo asking questions with Floofy, and how that Chandlo is just as worried as Snorpy is, but in a different way.
Oh trust me once my computers back from the shop im gonna do that im already workshopping something
I’m excited with shelda and floofty since they are going to be part of isle of bigsnax and are gonna let us see them more
I liked the isle of bigsnax as it improves some relationships and adds more depth to some of the characters
Chandle, the steriotype jock who isnt a steriotype because he is dating the steriotype nerd, chandlo is so freakin awsome, he is the coolest character and the way he acts when he first meets you is great, he isnt reluctant like the other, he would gladdly go back to snaxburg, but he wants to stay with snorpy, his relation ship and how he acts and his personality makes him the most lovable charqcter in the game
Yes exsactly more love for this valid green bean is what we need
I thought I was gonna hate him because jock characters always annoy me. Now he's one of my favorites. He's just so nice to everyone, and I always feel happy when I have a quest with him!
Chandlo and Snorpy are so freaking cute! My heart is so happy when they're interacting together!
*OMG LOOK AT CHANDLO AND SNORPYS PICTURESS IT MIGHT NOT BE A LOT BUT IM SURE SNORPY AND CHANDLO ARE PROUD OF EACHOTHER, I LOVE THEM SO MUCHHH THEIR SO WHOLESOME AHHHHH-* 💖
*dies of wholesomeness*
I honestly love every character. Even the ones I didn't like initially are solid. Floofty is just fun in that they're not just insufferable, they're passionate about science and will dive head first into dangerous experiments on themselves. Icon.
Snorpy is absolutely adorable in his obliviousness. Every time he gets flustered gets me. And Chandlo just being like "bro, we've been a thing for ages", aaaaaaahhhh, so wholesome. I love this game so much
Yeah thats the thing i really dont think theres a bad character and the one who was deemed bad was fixed in the dlc. This games just got steller writing
I love BugSnax! It's so nice to see so many great nonbinary characters in a video game!!!
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"A snake in the grass" is about a person that will not be honest and will trick others.
Intresting set of phrases, can i ask why you said them here
@@ThinkBoxChris it’s giving npc
@JayJay-hz4cc I mean yeah but still confused
@@ThinkBoxChris I could answer but that would be a skill issue ⛷️
Finally somebody that doesn't say that this game is crap! Glad to hear your explanations about bug snacks relationships!
Thanks i tried to be as far as i could to everything. Also who says this games bad? Ive literally only heard good things about it its a great game tf
@@ThinkBoxChris i think that when the game released,(i think) other people said that It's ugly and boring or other horrible things and i don't understand why? But yeah the game is not THAT bad
Its not even bad its just not trying to be something like red dead redemption or even mario its an indy team working on a unique idea with a budget and actual voice acting. God i miss that in ganes every indy game either has grunts or no voices and its just not my thing. i don't get people sometimes
Crazy how a pokemon inspired game with wacky ass muppet characters you can absolutely ruin the bodies of with weird food creatures has more natural inclusion and diversity than most pieces of media
Yeah that is really weird, wonder why
How have you not have a million views?! This is a great video and is exactly what I was looking for, a video about the relationships in Bugsnax.
Haha uh thats a great question. Thank you though, i really worked hard this and im glad you guys are liking it.
its a reason why i love this game! the relationships are so sweet, and it shows actual healthy gay relationships too. many things are represented in this game that many people dont see, and its why its so fun to play! legit completed it about 9 times.
the muppet ppl were like "so, Sesame Street has dared reject us..........let's become better and run them into the ground"
Man I just love the rep and also thanks for making this video, It feels nice knowing other people noticed this as well :)
As a non-binary person myself it was great seeing the representation
Thank you i honrstly made this on a whim i wasnt trying to make a big statement or anything i just liked how the game did things and wanted to talk about it. People like you guys commenting is honestly the biggest highlight of my day. Thank you
@@ThinkBoxChris Your welcome! Bugsnax especially doesn't have that big of a following so it makes my day much better
No joke, I have a Goblin warlock with this exact name, so imagine my surprise when I see a video in my recommendations calling my DnD character homosexual!
Uhhh haha what the name bugsnax or a character in the game?
This is an amazing watch!!! I love Bugsnax for a multitude of reasons, but the themes of relationships is definitely my favorite. You’ve earned a new subscriber!
(PS: sorry you’re getting all these weird new hate comments by people who have obviously not played the game)
Haha its fine im used to homophobes theyre just salty people exsit.
Thank you though it means the world, i wanna stream the dlc here soon i havent played it yet because of all the positive feed back yall have given me on this video, i cant wait to see how that turns out whenever my new monitor arrives
@@ThinkBoxChris oh awesome!! :D
Yeah, i hope some people tune in im thinking this coming saturday or something around 6, i think thats give people enough notice and be lowkey enough
A really Awesome video! I’m low key shocked you don’t have more subscribers lol.
I was half watching a streamer play this game so I didn’t pick up on most of the relationships until the lizbert and eggabell scene and I was FLOORED. As much as I try to find it, I rarely see lgbtq+ relationships in games, especially ones that aren’t treated as a selling point. Seeing not only multiple, but said relationships being seen as normal as the other ones was so cool. That’s not even mentioning all the other relationships you mentioned in the video. It just makes me so happy to see (imo) well done relationships of all kinds lmao
Have a pleasant day all!^_^
Thank you that means the world to me, im so glad this video is helping people appreciate this game do much more
first vid I watched from you and it's very well made def subscribe
Aww thank you i really appreciate it
Chandlo and Snorpy make me SO happy.
Also, I always assumed Chandlo was a corruption of Chandler. His name anyway, not the character from Friends
That could be but im not to sure
Honestly; I talked about it when I first played, and played through it again just recently. But I'm a small channel; where few people watch, or read my tweets. My game save got lost as well; when I went back to play the new DLC, I just finished the game a second time.
Same here man, my video only recently blew up cause of the dlc youll get there its a struggle belive me
This was the video that introduced me to bugsnax
Oh my god really? Thats amazing I'm glad I could be what got you into this lovely little community. Thank you for saying that because it really genuinely made my day.
I hope bugsnax will get a sequel
Dude me too, it's such a good concept
I think that there is a chance, because of the post scene of the good ending.
There was an update
We know im working on it now 😁
Are you looking forward to the new content coming soon? It looks like we're gonna get more of Chandlo, Floofty, Shelda, and Triffany ineracting together
Yeah im really excited im probably gonna stream it after my finsls are over
Chandlo and Snorpy are so codependent on each other while also so emotionally isolated. They care for each other deeply, but they never talk about what it is that's really bothering them. Chandlo didn't tell Snorpy why it was important to him to be able to lift that stump. Snorpy didn't tell him why he climbed a mountain. In fact, I don't think they share their fears/insecurities with each other most of the time, except for when it was implied after the bigsnax island adventure and the end of the game. (I wish we got to see more of their intimate conversations, but I understand why it wasn't included.)
And despite that, almost everything they do is for the other person. They are so enmeshed with each other that they freak out when the other isn't where they are expected to be, or when they're not easily reachable. They are each other's safety net that they are terrified of using. And I really appreciate seeing that dynamic in a game aimed at children, because that can happen in relationships sometimes and it's important to teach people early in life that mutual loyalty doesn't automatically equal a healthy relationship. There needs to be communication and trust; and though that wasn't their intentions, Snorpy and Chandlo still didn't trust each other to handle themselves, and that was the biggest thing they had to let go of.
Extra: It was hilarious listening to Chandlo as they tried to keep calm in the dlc: "It's okay, Chandlo, you'll be fine. Time apart is healthy." Boy was on the verge of imploding.
Yeah i agree its important to show how even healthy couples can be co dependent, but its also kinda their arch to become more open and independent i like it
@@ThinkBoxChris Exactly! I love them so much.
Extra info for those who don't have the Field Guide that came with the physical release, and for those who didn't play the DLC; Spoilers Ahead for the DLC
Snorpy is paranoid because he tried to blow the whistle that the government was using he and Floofty's research into prosthetics for nefarious purposes (most likely military), and the government immediately lead a smear campaign against him and Floofty. The two argued about whether or not to pull the plug and reveal what the government was doing, Floofty knowing they could help people with the prosthetics even at the cost, and Snorpy believing the cost of life was to great.
Also in the DLC, its revealed a secret organisation descent from Grumpbeards crew began research into Bugsnax and Snaxtooth Island, even spring on Beronica Lottablog (Tiffany's Granny) when she led an expedition to Snaktooth
It's even implied they tried to make her the Third Queen of Bugsnak (oh yeah, they confirm there was at least *two* before Eggabel and Lizbert)
In the field guide, its explained where Gramble gets his issues from. To quote the book, "His parents disappeared when he was a kid, and he wound up raising himself." "He recently got fired from a pet store after refusing to sell even one of them."
Back to the DLC, its also explained who the mysterious voice is at the end of the True Ending, and gives bonus info on Clumby
On Beffica and Cromdo, since the field guide gives info the game only hints at; Cromdo became a snake oil salesman after his divorce cost him everything, and has a long history of crime.
Beffica is also interesting. She used to work for the enemy companion our character works for. We work for GNN, she used to work for GMZ, and her methods of obtaining information were illegal. She actually caused the company she worked for to crumble after she blew the whistle on *something* her boss did (we're not told what)
Mh intresting. I dodnt realize there was that muvh suplimemtary material to it all
@@ThinkBoxChris I didn't either, thankfully the DLC was free and gave more content and info on side characters (Tiffany, Chandlo, Shelda, and Floofty), and someone I knew had a link to a Google drive with the entire field guide scanned
I didn't even know there was a feild guide this is one of the few games i own digitally so im completly blind on this, its neat
@@ThinkBoxChris Also, to point out, the DLC develops further the relatipn between shelda and floofty, where at the start they don't want to collaborate in their researches, but they then realize how each other helps, and even, shows how triffany shows concern between the conflict and such, rather doing the things alone, than create more conflict, but in the end of the DLC, they all collaborate
Yeah that is a really good point the dlc did wonders for everyone, just in different ways you know
Idk about the bury your gays part. Beyond the "they may be alive!!" part, for me bury your gays isn't just about a queer character dying, it has so much more to do with killing off the only queer character, exploiting gay suffering or punishing a character for being gay.
Eggabell and Lizbert, to me, are characters who happen to be in a lesbian relationship, as in being lesbians isn't the reason why they "die". As a lesbian, is it weird to me that this happens to the only lesbian couple? Yes, but it feels much more like a conclusion of their arc than a bury your gays moment.
Still, great video! I really like this game and it's so nice to see someone so passionate even if I found this video some years later.
Yeah i definitely misused that phrase when i made this and thsts my bad, but still thanks for the comment. I loved this game so much i really need to replay it
me immediately after seeing eggabell give lizbert a kiss on the cheek: *GAYY!!!!!!!!* (I said that happily btw, not meant to be rude 😅)
Haha same honestly it was so pure
It was a bout time someone done a gay reading of the snax
interesting vid but i feel it was a little heavy on the insults of the artstyle idk but relationship analysis was solid so I'm not too upset glad this game is still getting discussion
I wasnt really insulting the art style. I actually like how the game looks. Calling them muppet rejects was really the only thing i could think of to make a jab at the games design.
hey man just happy to see your doing good sorry ive been away from the channel for a while miss talking to you man and keep making grate videos
You should make a part 2 since the isle of Bigsnax gave Floofty and Shelda more screen time.
Oh definitely im thinking of streaming the dlc here soon like tomorrow night or something. It looks so fun
@@ThinkBoxChris Also I realize you can interview Eggabell, and she explains more about her relationship with Lizbert.
I thought she did tbat in the base game too, i guess ill figure it out whenever my second monitor arrives
floofty and shelda did get fantastic characterization in the added content of broken tooth (isle of bugsnax?)
Isle of bigsnax and i did a video on that too
@@ThinkBoxChris oh yay, im gonna watch that
@imkuelllgremlin awseome, i hope you like it
i always bring this game up when talking about good lgbtq representation. not only are there two gay couples that show the ups and downs of real relationships, but also a non binary character who gets effortlessly gendered by everyone! it's almost funny that a kids game with characters called "grumpuses" has better queer rep than some adult games
Most adult games tbh, and yeah i agree. Although the term kids anything rubs me the wrong way because this game has a pretty substantial adult audience and i dont think that should be discounted. I hear to therm kids *blank* thrown around as a way to shoot a thing down so idk maybe its a me thing but you're completely right
@@ThinkBoxChris I should call it a game for general audiences. The tone is mostly light and the colours are bright, but that doesn't undermine the subtle horror in the game. Anyone can enjoy Bugsnax and that's beautiful
Yeah thats basically how i veiw it, and thats an amazing thing
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Scoopy banoopy is not a sundea, its a banana split
the only thing better than getting recommended a videoessay about a game I like, is a gay videoessay about a gay game I like
Aww yay that makes me happy
Chandlo and Snorpy gang they are precious good boi and we need more of them
14:30 Had to replay this part a few times to finally understand the pun 🤣
I like to shove pride stuff under the rug and bat an eye, since although I am pretty stubborn with my stance on lgbtq, I genuinely LOVE this game and can’t wait for the sequel. I like to think the reason floofty is referred to as they is because floofty is kinda crazy and on one knows what they are exactly. They are their leg after it turned to strabby, had us throw acid in their face, and even tried to cut off their own head to see if bugsnax would make it grow back, and spoilers, it would probably not.
wambus with the wee mewon nose got me effed up
Haha glad i could make ya laugh
"She never eats any of Gramble's bugsnax!"
Who's gonna tell him?
When we meet her she isnt transformed at all, and says she doesn't want to upset him it lead me to think she hadnt had any
@@ThinkBoxChris um, she is a bit transformed, but only from desert snax. Unsure if that means something, could just be for gameplay means
Which snax did she eat? I dont remember
@@ThinkBoxChris she ate a cheepoof I believe
Huh maybe it was her body was orange so i just didnt notice but those srent native to the beach so at leach she went out of her way to not bother his snaxs
oooh I loved this and I was hoping you could take another look at them with the dlc content
Im planning on finishing the dlc this week on stream then do a straught gameplay recording to really focus on things im definitely planning on taking a closer look at the dynamics there
Thanks to the DLC as well Chandlo and Snorpy get 3 bosses out of the 5. Snorpy gets the Daddy Cake Legs while Chandlo gets both Mama Mewon and Chedderbordle Rex (ik Shelda, Floofty and Triffany where there 2 but Chandlo was the one to eat the boss)
Yeah i noticed that, so again wholesome gays get shit done in this game
this game is a masterpiece at the start its a fun cute game but you get to see the ppl evolve and become friends and over time its wonderful game and the horror aspects are wonderful if you have not played this game you should
Yeah its really good
Hey why you gotta do the grumeses like that! 😂 I love them all so much their characters are so well thought out! And I think their designs are cute! Edit: You roasted them good lol.
Wdym? I called them muppet rejects but i do love all of them they're great characters
@@ThinkBoxChris I know I thought it was funny! You see me and my friends like to roast each other but when one of our roasts are really good, we like to say damn why do you do him like that? lol I guess you might not get it because you don’t know the context sorry about that. And I’m just saying how much I love the characters. I guess just never mind me I’m dumb. But overall I was just trying to come off as funny and positive.
@lilhedgehog8576 oh that makes sense, i appreciate that actually both the roast and the explanation. Your good man thanks
Ah, I thought that friends with benefits were something like my mother, people befriended her because of the fact that at 3pm her fam has snack time, so they could have snacks, turns out I’m wrong
Haha idk why that made me laugh more than it should
3:27 I burst into laughter at this clip idk why
Thanks i thought thst was rather apt
I guess Wambus and Gramble have different views on Bugsnax because Wambus probably grew up with a family but gramble did not
Thats fair, but ive met people who live on farms and have good family ties who act like he does about pets. Some people just react differently to similar situations. Plus wambus is just more used to the sales aside of thibg where as gramble was more of a sensative indoor soul helpin mawmaw with dinner
I saw this video a while ago but didn’t watch it feeling like it was going to insult it, but when I watched it I realized it was the opposite
Also In my opinion, Snorpy and Chandlo is the best relationship.
Aww im sorry i did make the title thats way on pourpose so people would notice it. Im sorry if it cane off like 2012 teenage boy vibe haha. And yes the boys are the best
im not sure if wiggles and gramble are confirmed to actually be dating but wiggles does have a side quest (or more accurately beffica does) that shows wiggle actually attempting to eat some of grambles bugsnax as a midnight snack
They're pretty much a couple, and theyre adorable so it works in my mind. I cant remeber that sude quest though beffica sends you to spy on people a lot so they blend togeather but while i was wrong in that sje never tries she still never succeeds. Its a moment if weakness we help her through and i like that
@@ThinkBoxChris fair enough, they are adorable I agree :D and yeah if she ever did succeed i dont doubt she would feel horrible if she could even bring herself to eat any
I honestly loved your vid you explained everything so well and it was such a fun watch so have a lovely day! :))
Yeah that woulda been an awseome really added to the characters.
And thank you so much that means so much to me 💗
I completed this game twice, I loved it that much
“Obligatory heterosexual’s”
I find that way to funny.
Hahaha and i found that way to funny. I just called them that because people keep saying we get forced into everything so I was like "well ok how does it make you feel" and went from there
Good video. I dont have much else to say, it was just a good video!
The best title of the year
Haha thank you, i was told to change it but i liked it way to much since its meant to get your attention
How did I not notice that Floofty was non-binary?!
Haha their brash nature and fact people hate them makes it so they don't get much attention by the player and the story. So i completely understandable how that happens
A sorta counterpoint to Eggablle n Lizbert section:
I rlly don't think they count as "bury ur gays". The bury your gays trope comes from writers wanting to get brownie points for putting queer rep, but not wanting to continue w it so they kill them off. It's bad bc they make characters just to make "representation", don't flesh out the characters at all, then kill them off.
But Eggebelle and Lizbert aren't that, they're fleshed out characters, sure it's mostly in flashbacks but we still actually see their characters. And honestly, I don't see anything wrong w them being flawed. I think we should get flawed queer characters, ofc I'm fine w heroic or nice queer characters but giving them flaws and showing they're not 100% perfect ppl makes them more realistic. Ofc I'd wish we got to see more of them, and agree with getting extra screentime for Eggabelle, but I don't ar all find them having flaws and probably dying at the end that bad. If we can get flawed straight couples where one or both die at the end, I think we should get more of that with queer characters too
Im not saying theyre perfect or that their flaws are bad in fact i love their story i wish we saw more of it. The reason i called it bury your gays was because they're just the lesbians who are important and then die. Ik that soubds harsh and it is to a degree but my point is that i just dont wany queer people to die in general for a hot minute just like no. If theres a protag cant die rule in most sorites i want that too
@@ThinkBoxChris they're not dead? (tho i get it can be confusing. more photos were added 2 the end credits when the dlc dropped so that it's more clear they're alive)
You can forgive how i thought that though right the island blew up and they looked normal i just thought that was a before picture
@@ThinkBoxChris lol ur good ur good
Fuck yeah these are the kind of videos I signed up for(haven’t watched the full thing yet but I already love the premise)
Haha signed up for with me or youtube in general? Im glad your having fun though
@@ThinkBoxChris RUclips in general since this was the first time I even saw you, but it was a really good video! I honestly had no idea about some of the information like Floofty being non-binary and Chandlo and Snorpy already dating lol
Oh well thank you im glad im what you came for. And its super intresting stuff if you do all the sude quests. Floofty being NB is never said but how they're talked about and refered to is what tips it off. Like snorpy calls them sibling not sister or brother
rewatching this because it’s pride month and i love games with decent lgbtq rep
I love your icon my guy. Its so intresting