Should Elves Rule ALL Tamriel? - Are They Better Rulers? - Elder Scrolls Lore
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2020
- In our latest Elder Scrolls video we discuss whether or not the elves are actually fit to rule all of Tamriel?
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series and was released worldwide on November 11, 2011. The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim.
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You're sheltering Elves under your floorboards, aren't you?
Ah, the Shezarrine
Good to see you
Yes, I am currently sheltering dead elf bodies under my floorboards to make sure no one steals my food
Glorious shezzarine may i please enter sovengarde to drink feast and fight with skyrims greatest heroes
Or possibly in....... Ze Attic!
Elfs wanted to steal my moon sugar. Khajiit killed them for it. All the good moon sugar.
"They're Trying to Destroy the Towers!" *Gets grabbed by guards* ""I'm not crazy! They wish to destroy us all! ALL OF NIRN!"
"Mind your tongue! In time my tongue will wiggle waggle up your Emperor's ass"
-A epic Gaymer
*Meanwhile, Cult of Pelinal in the distance shrieking about judgement and vengeance
I may have role-played that character a little too hard...
Is it really "destruction" if it results in all Mer and Men becoming divine and joining their ancestors in Aetherius?
@@arcanefelinethis is a fan theory that’s been spread so much it’s basically accepted as canon, but there is NO evidence that undoing Mundus is actually possible in this way or that the majority Thalmor see this as the end goal.
And Men do NOT ascend to Aetherius and become divine according to Altmer. Men are inherently different to Mer, not descended from the divine Aedra but instead they are children of traitor Lorkhan, the mortal god the missing god, trickster, etc. And so the only way to ascend from the mortal realm and return to their divine ancestors is to destroy Mankind which is necessarily bound to the mortal plane
^^^ again ALL of this plan is a fan theory extrapolated from very little in-game evidence and taken as scripture by way too many well-meaning fans. And of course I oversimplified everything as well, we could go back to Anu and Padomay and I’d argue that just like in our real universe the forces of Padomay, those of change and chaos, are inherent all existence and fighting those forces in favor of some primordial stasis is delusional at best.
Elves fear change and work to undo it or keep it at bay while yearning for some likely imaginary past where they existed as divines.
Humans fear change too but more often embrace it and use it to their advantage given their shorter lives which results in a more padomaic outlook on the world.
As someone who lives in a real universe (as real as we can know) that is consistently observed to tend towards chaos rather than order or stasis, the Elves are trying to achieve something that was never meant to be, in every Kalpa chaos begins creation and without this chaos there is no new Kalpa there is no reality but there is also likely no Aetherius since all of these realms are tied to the Aurbis which is reset every Kalpa as far as we know
Ok that was the deepest TES metaphysics rabbit hole I’ve sunk myself into in a while, but I hope it kinda makes sense what I’m trying to say.
@@lukasp5892 fair enough.
One of the multitude of reasons I love TES is this abundance of lore and fan theories.
But sometimes people take things too far, lol.
Find it interesting that the elves think humans are the ones who bring disaster but an elf caused the oblivion crisis and a man stopped it
Mankar Camoran is just a consequence of the evil the empire did to the land
Actually akatosh did but okay
@@borrburison648 man who used the power of akatosh, wasn’t actually the god since the divines can’t do shit
@@Wolfsbane101 uh if thats true merunes dagon wouldnt have invaded tamriel and dragonborns wouldnt exist
@@borrburison648 literally just said it was Martin who used the power, if Martin hadn’t shattered the amulet then the realm would have fallen to him
“Pelinal Whitestrake would like to know your location”
Captain Donkeyballs “I just wanna talk to them.”
Just make sure your location isn’t in Elsweyr
I like your username Captain
@@obijuanquenobi1911 unless you have a god with you 👀
Slim Retro i’m saying because remember what happened when whitestrake mistakenly thought the khajiit for elves?
If they're gonna rule all of Tamriel they need better embassy security.....hehe.
You know i hear a werewolf got into there embassy and what was left behind was not good for them you got to becareful not to let werewolves in or vampires!
@@supernova582 I also heard a certain red dragon flew over their embassy and then the spirit of a frost giant was summoned in the blizzard. There were no survivors in the embassy except for one drunken business man. No one knows what was behind this savage summoning. But the business man swears he vaguely heard someone yelling odahviing before that nightmare began.
@@rezamehraein1583 oh skyrim is a crazy place lol such epic tales it is indeed to be a good place to be a bard
@@supernova582 indeed 😂
"Don't you see!? Elven Supremacy is the only tru-HUAAAHH!!!"
High Elves: Berates other races for waging war.
also High Elves: Declares war
They start the best wars. Fantastic even. No one starts wars like the Thalmer. Extremists Talos warshipers are nothing but liars and theives.
Ha! like id beleive a deadra!
They think like Sid Meier's Civilizations games AI, denounce other nations for being at war, even if it's a defensive war that they never wanted to be in, then declare war on the nation they just denounced. Next thing you know they'll be claiming that they're pacifists while building a nuclear arsenal that could wipe out the planet...
@@NODnuke45 you know what they say, keep one hand for negotiating and another on the pistol.
@Patrick .C By exiling their own extremist groups on said mainland. They are def NOT sending their best here.
Obviously GIANTS should be ruling all of Tamriel.
"Be good to each other, or you get the club!"
Problem solved.
"Do not touch my pet, and social distance please" are pretty good policies
They’d singlehandedly create the Imperial Space Force. Launching young promising scholars to space to investigate the unknown
They also have robust policies on space travel.
😆 yeah
Shame they all look the same and there's no females... Always wondered what they do with those mammoths.. lol
the irony is of all is if you play the three different faction story lines in ESO Queen Ayrenn feels like the best pick for the throne. and Shares a more Colovian lime Cosmopolitan view. For starters she went out and traveled the different lands and got to know the people some of the more "fun storries about her include that she sailed as first mate with a pirate captain from Anvil, disguised herself as a Dunmer in order to read the Indigo Scrolls in the vaults of Necrom, bested the Dervishes of Rihad at their own sword-dance, and outdrank Queen Mabjaarn Flame-Hair of Windhelm in a mead-slamming contest. she never says discouraging things about the other races and shows and genuinely respects the traditions of the people in the First Dominion. with the exception of some choice words she has about her own people's attitudes
Queen Aryenn the only good apple in a whole barrel of bad apples
Yeah, but she’s an elf
Pact fanboy. But yeah. King Jorunns son immediately makes me cringe.
Don't remember much of the daggerfall covenant aside from lots of Breton infighting and Darien
Altmer - “We’re the best to rule Tamriel! We should conquer all of it!”
Bosmer - “Oh gods, you’re not dragging us into this again.”
Dunmer - “That’s dumb! You’re dumb! Fighting the humans always fails! Be like us and chill instead.”
Dunmer- here drink this.
@@FallenRingbearer Khajiit- Here, this one asks that you smoke this.
Didn't they enslave humans in Morrrowind?
@@asteroidalassassin6949 Yes. They also enslaved orcs, khajiit, argonians, and elves, including other dark elves. The Dunmer were equal opportunity employers of prisoners with jobs.
Of course, so weren’t the Altmer, and at least with the Dunmer they didn’t tend to torture their slaves like the Ayleid high elves did. Also, despite some houses’ tendency to use slaves, the dark elves were never imperialists like high elves often tend to be.
Dunmer are nowhere near the powerhouse the Altmer are and have their own shit to deal with, they're not "chill"
If we are talking about the Thalmor here... their distant cousins, the Ayleids, had that chance and look at where it got them.
How dare you compare Ayleids to mighty Altmer
To be fair, they got deus ex machina'd by a damn terminator blessed by the gods themselves.
Men are better than mer, but the Dark Elves are the best mers
@Wirr Ling because their lifespans are shorter
that wasn't REAL Ayleid Superiority.
FudgeMuppet: Should Elves rule ALL Tamriel?
My current High Elf Character: Is that even a question?
Yes.
Redguard chatacter: _Loads crossbow with malicious intent_
Argonian character: proceeds to not give a sh*t
Dunmer character:Filthy N'Wahs will pay...
@@good_good_host3991
Nord characters: Brenna alla álfa og ungbörn þeirra!
Oh wait, no, that's just me...
Here before Rolff Stone-Fist copy-strikes this video
Theory: Rolff is actually a Wandering Ehlnofey who's still p*ssed off about how the Old Ehlnofey treated him.
I really wish I could legit sacrifice him to Boethiah
Video Title: Should Elves rul...
Pelinel: *Kill Bill sirens*
PRAISE REMAN!!!!
Shor: BFG Division starts playing…
Generic fantasy elves: lives in the woods and is slaughtered by humans.
Tamriel elves: "Bow down to your elven lord, you inferior human filth."
Nah all elves are like that
The generic fantasy elves were like the tamriel elves at one point in their own history but the humans wiped them out and pushed them to being tree lovers
What about warhammer and lotr elves, both are considered fsr more powerful than humans. Warhammer elves are more like tameriel elves where as lotr elves are lawful good.
@@obijuanquenobi1911 im talking about the ones that live in the woods cut off from the rest of the world.
the peace lover tree hugger elves
I honestly think the Thalmor corrupted the Aldmeri Dominion and turned it away from what it was intended to be. I get a feeling Ayrenn intended the Aldmeri Dominion to be akin to what the vulcan are to humans in Star Trek: Enterprise (the only Star Trek show I watched willingly with my mom and I am not a Star Trek fan by any means), which was guides, advisors, and counselors who helped humanity as if humanity were like a little brother. The Thalmor seem to me to be the ones who are keen on keeping wounds open and seek to punish humans that were not around (and thus not responsible for what happened) for the Warp of the West and Tiber Septim's conquest and becoming Talos.
By that logic you can almost say that Thalmor are like the Romulans of The Elder Scrolls.
Iirc you're generally right. The third Aldmeri Dominion is a reboot of a reboot and was distilled down to an extremist group. It's why the Psijics separated during the first or second iterations and why The Mythic Dawn became a thing I think. The Third Dominion is supposedly generally disliked by Altmer society (remember they call themselves *Aldmeri* to distinguish themselves from the latter generations of Altmer to justify including Khajiit and Bosmer who remain relatively unchanged) and they've essentially supplanted the throne in Alinor with the supposition that they're doing their race a service by patrolling Tamriel and essentially being "peacekeepers".
Note, I'm secretly in love with the Altmer, but I sure af couldn't say in good conscience that deserve anything less than total humiliation, defeat and dissolution.
Just saying.
@@poochyenajones1362 Possibly, but like I said, I am not a Star Trek fan. Despite willingly watching Star Trek: Enterprise, I have only watched a handful of episodes with my mom. I have not seen many of the episodes dealing with the Romulans to make that comparison.
@@NOHTenma I have heard a little about that. I think it was during the second iteration of the Aldmeri Dominion that the Psijic Order separated because in ESO their region is still technically part of the Summerset Isles. As for the Mythic Dawn, I have limited knowledge of them as I have not played Oblivion yet. I only know that they are responsible for the Oblivion Crisis and got Uriel Septim killed.
I like playing as an Altmer myself in the Elder Scrolls series. My character in Skyrim thinks that the Thalmor are rotten apples that have spoiled the bunch and have given Altmer a very bad name, especially in the region of Skyrim where she was born. I will admit Altmer are easy to write as butt monkeys due to the stereotype that they are usually seen as being (haughty and in need of some lessons in humility and humbleness).
@Nii Lantei Bright-Davies Which is unfortunate.
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Please contact the Night Mother for customer relations and we will solve all of your issues.
Last emperor Killed Recommended our services : I told him you can't stop the Dark Brotherhood. Never could.
Titus Mede II died like a champ. No begging, no screaming, no crying, no running... took it like a real man. I press F for him.
There is no 'Night Mother', as Daedra are both sexes, Sithis never broke that rule (that rebel Gods broke and continued to do so to drive their own tales of petty lusts and guilt) and never took a mortal female and no Mortal female ever took to shim as a partner - he she it destroyed he she its own children. He She It is of the Void and thus Null and made/unmade shimself. There is nothing but Sithis and Sithis for itself, oneself, evil, whole and complete, a masterstroke of an entire masterpiece. The Dark Elves are all liars and have incorporated and indoctrinated what is Daedric to try to protect Nirn from the Daedra's true, brutal, extreme and total existence!!
@@mjag2834 The Night Mother, is the bride of Sithis, the Dread Father of the Dark Brotherhood. Those who wish to have someone assassinated pray to the Night Mother by performing the Black Sacrament, and she extends their requests to her Listener, who in turn passes the task on to the Speakers. It is debatable whether she was a single person, a title passed down through the eras, or an immortal spirit.
Sithis is neither an Aedra nor a Daedra. Although usually referred to as male by the Dark Brotherhood, Sithis, like most deities, has no gender
@@im_a_simulation433 The Night Mother was a Dark Elf - and once again - a likely story...the Dark Elves have been deterring mortalkind from Daedra for aeons. I believe the Night Mother never existed, and perhaps Astrid and those at the Falkreath Sanctuary believed that too...who knows...
I agree, those are the facts. But then again so are flying dragons, and giant spiders...does it really matter???
I definitely feel a lot for Ayrenn. I feel like she genuinely looked at her her own people and saw their potential in being effective, powerful, and benevolent rulers of Tamriel. She was just very lonely when it came to getting support from her own race, which was supposed to be the forefront of the Dominion. It mostly feels like she had the potential to be one of the greatest rulers in Tamriel, but her dreams of her Dominion just kinda fell through because her own people did not share her dream.
I may be biased because I like the Aldmeri questline more than the Pact's or Covenant's (and is the only one that I've finished), but I still feel like she was the better of the alternatives at the time.
Last time I was this early Talos wasn't outlawed.
I thought you would say ruled the empire.
By Azura, why can't you N'wah just get your gods straight.
@@CyberController- Your gods abandoned you
@@obijuanquenobi1911 And I guess you'd know a lot about abandoning people, especially near lava pits.
@@CyberController- What can I say? I’m the master of that art
The title has me wanting a return of Pelinal Whitestrake.
Concept: Pelinal is the protagonist from ES3-5 traveled back in time.
Maybe if they do take over the new player will be pelinals reincarnation or some equivalent being born to break them.
I like this!
Ikr
Kinda weird, just heard some guy bellowed "REMAN" around the same time this video was uploaded....
Imperials hated that
Redguards hated that
Stormcloaks hated that
Pelinal Whitestrake wants to know your location
Ysgramor hated that
Imperials made a peace treaty with them
Redguards betrayed that peace for war
Stormcloaks betrayed that peace for war
Whitestake is no better than the thalmor
Ysgramor is no better than the thalmor
Bow down to your elven overlords
@@gabrielarchangel2658 Hmm... *Installs Inpa Sekiro Combat with Souls-like combat mods and Witchhunter Spells and Prayers Pack from the Nexus to have an extra edge against said elven overlords* Come at me, bro!
Okey in that case
Than it seems good
@@gabrielarchangel2658the Aldmeri Dominion is probably going to get destroyed at some point in the future lore. Humans are always going to come out on top because the entire fictional universe is developed and designed by humans and marketed to humans for the sake of playing a game.
So bow to your human overlords, fellow human! Elves are but a cruel illusion of the Godhead ;)
Wellp, since we can't expect Akatosh to do all the work.. My time has come... Again😈
A good elf is a dead elf
_Laughs in genocide as retribution for genocide_
@@mattaffenit9898 Not retribution. _Innoculation._
Lead on Shezarrine
@Goblock Chieftain
Yes, that's my point.
i find it amazing you guys can still produce relevant elder scrolls topics in 2020. Very well done Fudgemuppet
It has great World Building.
Summary: everyone on Tamriel, with power, is a bastard.
See the real question is should m'aiq be ruling tamriel answer yes just imagine:
Council member: Emperor we have a problem that needs your involvement
M'aiq: M'aiq is bored go bother somebody else now
Council: But...
M'aiq: Nords are so serious about beards.So many beards.M'aiq thinks they wish they had glorious manes like khajiit.
I just misread the title of this video as "Should Elvis Rule All Tamriel".
Well Elvis is the King
Elvis to go from King of Freeside to Tamriel
yes.
*YES*
Ahh uh huh !
You can color me impressed that I was on my phone as soon as the notification that this video was uploaded showed up, yet there were already 10 comments and 24 likes by the time it pulled up. Keep up the solid content that inspires such dedication lads
Damn elves. I bet they had something to do with this.
This is Helgen, I used to be sweet on a girl from here.
Hey, what village are you from WfxRS?
I think it was a small group from among the snow elves that actually were responsible for the night of tears. Sadly, the whole race suffered for the crimes of the few.
Yeah I feel like that’s a theme with the elves, with all of the chimer becoming dunmer for the actions of the tribunal and the Dwemer disappearing with the actions of just kagrenac
No way it's a small group. Saarthal was the largest human settlement in Skyrim where even the Falmers were wary of their growing numbers. The slaughter would've taken an army, instead of an extremist group.
No. We've already seen a Tamriel under the rule of elves:
Fractured and squabbling, more often than not driven apart by their own religious prejudices and physical differences, and their unwillingness to mingle. Despite the elves' deeper wisdom and capacity for magical warfare, it was their disharmony and deeply ingrained superiority complex that did them in time and again:
The Snow Elves, despite living in relative peace with the Nords for some time, ultimately decided to place their desires over the lives of those living in Sarthaal and paid a terrible price for it.
The Ayleids represent the other extreme: They allowed their worship of the daedra to justify the sadistic torture, sacrifice and slavery of those they saw as lesser than themselves. And like the Snow Elves, they paid the price.
The Chimer and their Dark Elf descendants, under the guidance of daedra and demigods, enslaved generation upon generation of beastfolk. And when Dunmer society was rocked by a string of natural and unnatural disasters, when they needed mercy and compassion the most, there was little goodwill to be found from their neighbors to the west, and certainly NONE from the south.
And then of course there's the Dwemer: Perhaps the zenith of elfkind's capacity for arrogance and cruelty. They may not have had the same impact as the Ayleids, but they are a textbook example of those undone by their own hubris and delusions of godhood.
Men and beastfolk aren't perfect by any means, and are guilty of many of the same sins as elves, but at the end of the day, they've simply proven themselves more willing to coexist and build up what they have, as opposed to claiming by force what others do, be it land, freedom or lives.
Anyone else wanna see Summerset burn as vengeance for Saarthal?
@@mattaffenit9898
No. The Snow Elves paid in full for Sarthaal and then some. And Summerset isn't just one big Thalmor moshpit: There are those living there that despise the Dominion.
@@Scotttjt
You assume I care.
@@Scotttjtno thier all stuck up and arrogant listen to 95 percent of high elves in skyrim and eso.
@@Scotttjt given the various references to purges and camps in the domion id say all altmer in summerset all very enthusiastically and openly suport the thalmor those that dont are dead or left. Any opposition to the current leaders is likely very quite
22:29 This is literally the point, each race has the capability to only rule over their own. Any and all attempts at assimiliation of the other races through intricate peace treaties or outright conquest through martial superiority ALWAYS leads to bloodshed and war. The one and only inevitable truth is that eventually all the races of Nirn will experience some sort of Ragnarok at the end of all times, and the souls of everyone residing upon the Mundus will seperate into their respective Anuic and Padomaic origins, leading to both Mundus and Aetherius collapsing and rejoing the primordial, cosmic amoebas of pure power that are Anu and Padomay.
The Mer are pretty ruthless to others and even their own but maybe the High Elves (non-Thalmor) are able to rule Tamriel as peacefully as it can be. Still, the Septim Empire did a fine job uniting all of Tamriel. Violent conquests but mostly peaceful government.
The War of the Red Diamond, the Invasion of the Continent of Akavir, etc all happened under the Septim Empire.
It wasn't a peaceful, totally great time...
there were MANY rebellions throughout the centuries of imperial rule, not peaceful at all
The High Elves seem more likely to oppress than gently govern. I would hope that one day an ecumenical and peaceful government could emerge without the xenophobia that plagued Nirn for so long. The Cyrodillic Empires are as close as we've come thus far.... And I often play as Elves. Usually as a cosmopolitan Bosmer who doesn't follow the green pact.
Well, at least they didn't conquer they provinces by force like septim empire did. AD history less oppressive in general and not built on genocide and betrayals. It d be highly interesting how d they rule without 4E thalmor.
Really?
How about everyone governs themselves.
Short answer: Hell no!
Long answer: Oh HAAAAAAAAAAAAAYLL NO!
I concur.
I believe the correct Ebonics translation of no is "naw".
Given the Mer cultures'track records, they have no business whining about the viciousness or barbarity of Men. Let's face it, Tamriel is marred by the primal discord between Anu and Padomay-it's not a peaceful world. Conflict is inherent in its cosmic source code.
That's perhaps the biggest detriment to the elven capability of ruling tamriel
They wish to inflict anu's perfect unchaging order unto the house of sithis itself, they see themselves as superiors for not bending to the ever changing nature of mundus, and yet they are the most changed by it. They wage wars, enslave, and genocide no more and no less than men but they are blinded by righteousness to their own contradictions
The Speaker And even if they do take Tamriel, they will be fighting each other like those “barbaric” humans
@@obijuanquenobi1911 elves are no different to men, they just see themselves as dofferent
The Speaker that’s my point
When you think about it, the ones with the true claim to Tamriel are the beast folk.
honestly the first Aldmeri Dominion could have worked out to en extent. Ayrenn actually lived among the other races she she understood them more.
Man I love the comment section on these videos
ESO is so close to my heart- thank you for representing the visuals from the game so heavily in your newer videos.
I like to point out that the Aldmeri Dominion in Skyrim is the third incarnation of such an organization. The third Dominion.... Well that explains the Gestapo Squads rounding up all the Talos worshippers.
As humans, let's kick some Thalmor ass with steel plate boots. There is no better material than steel. I love it. Thou i like the silver-sword design the most
you know what's funny the all mighty Dominion who it seemed had the Empire Finished ready to be vanquished yet some reason they offered a peace treaty right after Mankind made a push back and regained the capital.
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"Ysgramor would like to know your location."
Ahh so I was driving home from work and put this on my blue tooth to listen while I drive, and a lady pulled out infront of me. Everyone is ok, and both cars are drivable, it just sucks.
After the dust settled I was able to have Drews calm, relaxing voice to help me relax, and help me forget about my problems for at least twenty minutes
Thank you Drew, sometimes all I need is a reprieve from the stress of life.
Video suggestion: What kind of life is waiting for the Dragonborn after death? We know what kind of afterlives exist, but after swearing your soul to all kinds of stuff and going through all the questlines, which aedra and daedra would have the strongest claims, and work the hardest to get you?
Seems like hermeous mora
I think that already exists.
They've already made a video based on that idea
A lot of bad sh*t is what awaits them.
@@mattaffenit9898 I just watched through their video on what happens when you die, and they don't say. They list a lot of options, but don't say what happens specifically to the Dragonborn, who is qualified for many of them.
Over my cold, dead Imperial corpse.
My Altmer frost mage: "very poor choice of words..."
Did it suddenly get cold in here?
The Empire’s shit now. If only Martin Septim hadn’t chosen to be a fucking priest and gotten laid at some point in his life. He saved Tamriel only to potentially doom his family’s legacy.
@@zeche8477 that is indeed unfortunate
From Stormcloak to imperial, let us set our differences asside and let us kick Thalmor asses together as one. They deserve it. They are the true enemy. And a reason why We( i am mostly Khajiit thou) want to go away from the empire. Plus the ban of Talos worshipping.
Lets put it that way. There is a reason I have an All Altmeri wear SS uniforms mod.
@Rost Mandzak Yes
I love playing as a high elf and seeming like the only chill one willing to get their hands dirty and help people and astonishing people getting them to consider their stereotypes.
Battlemage with summon blades.
sharpens Wuuthrad
"Never should have come here"
WEARS DIVINE CRUSADER ARMOR
*We can’t expect Shezzar to do all the work*
Hate elves all you want, but at least they don't have a legendary weapon named and used specifically for slaughtering humans.
@@Aethuviel thats a game mechanic bro
Thalmor: Nooo mer are the most civilized and must rule Tamriel!
Ayleids: Haha flesh sculptures go brrrrr
True. Yes the Elves have had their wrongdoings and their BS problems, but for all their worth, they rarely ever actually start wars themselves (perhaps the Direnni may have, after a while, but only amongst themselves, and the Bretons haven't exactly stopped it)
Think about it; what major contributions did Humans make in the early Era's of Tamriel? Most all Governments and Provinces can trace their systems and foundations upon Elven sophistication.
The Empire now? It was built upon what the Aylieds had established. High Rock? Elven dominance built it up to what it is today. Morrowind? Always has been Elves.
Only case where civilization has flourished without Mer are the Beast Races. They have their own things going on, but Humans? Bottom of the pile.
Other than the Nords, who slaughtered every Snow Elf they came across, they built up their own stuff, but even then, they only ever got the chance to settle Skyrim since the Snow Elves let them into their province in the first place.
Technically, the humans were the ones who kept on coming to Tamriel since they screwed up their own Continents, if you look at history.
The elves as a whole? No. Ayrenn as empress though? That I might be okay with. She's a good egg.
Though only if she rules not as an enforcer of elven supremacy but as a protector of all races.
She would be, if she had been put on the throne. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if it was eventually made canon the Thalmor prevented her from obtaining the throne
@@brendanclark1058 yeah, the current Thalmor in Skyrim definitely share qualities with the Veiled Inheritance.
Great video, youve done such a great job on your channel i always enjpy seeing one of your videos in my feed.
I'd like to see it ruled by the mighty Skeever, the humble mammoth, and the royal deer.
Nah man, I wanna see a world ruled by the mudcrab
@@jimothyjimmz8372 ah my bad. Forgotten about the waters. What about the air? Dragons had their own. The hawks?
@@LuoSon312_G8 isn't this just the original Nord Pantheon?
@@jimothyjimmz8372 sorta.
Just say'n. Let's try going by nature's rules for once. No race superiority, stop being petty (revenge plotting), one can have borders or territory.
Kou Her nature has no rules
ah, this was a great one! I play AD in ESO... but sometimes I'm not so sure about Queen Ayrenn becoming empress. Then I look at the center of the Planemeld above the White-Gold tower, and I am reminded... the Three-Banners War is not a war that strives for lasting peace. It is a war of endless domination.
The mer are wise, the men are strong.
The leadership of Tanriel should lay in the balance of the two, just as the Aurbis exists in the balance of Anu's stasis and Padomay's change.
But you forgot the reason for that inability. Intrinsic Pride and racism
@@kevind3974 from both sides, yes. The Alessian empire attempted that same but the humans slaughtered their Ayleid allies from the rebellion.
This video actually intrigued me for as soon as I saw it I started thinking about all the possibilities that would happen like the court system and new laws that the elves would bring to the land of Tamriel I find this topic interesting for I saw the court system is based on the elves own biases and how unfair it would be for the other none elf races but that's where the imagination begins because we don't know the answer and it's up only to the interpretation of the topic
@michel durant Microsoft might 😬
Even then it would be cool to have some interim game that would be another Warp in the... World. Elven Rule; a la The Hidden City mod play. The player has to keep repeating the same time frame to figure out how it happened and how to stop it, just with more budget money and engine thrust.
It's a pointless "wtf" game to tide us over until TESVI
@michel durant I know you most likely don’t actually think like this- elder scrolls fans just have this weird complex where they act like they believe these things- but it’s obvious and proven that your statement is false.
Bruh, u killed thiz vid! The tone, dialect & ambiance that the music & in game shotz set a perfect setting for the recounting of thiz epic. My only critique would be to add more high quality fan art 2 break up the monotony of game shotz. Still, stellar job. I still come back 2 these vidz 2day, usually while playing ESO.
Unironically yes elven emperors with their long lifespans would rarely have succession crises and live long enough to see huge projects completed
True. Yes the Elves have had their wrongdoings and their BS problems, but for all their worth, they rarely ever actually start wars themselves (perhaps the Direnni may have, after a while, but only amongst themselves, and the Bretons haven't exactly stopped it)
Think about it; what major contributions did Humans make in the early Era's of Tamriel? Most all Governments and Provinces can trace their systems and foundations upon Elven sophistication.
The Empire now? It was built upon what the Aylieds had established. High Rock? Elven dominance built it up to what it is today. Morrowind? Always has been Elves.
Only case where civilization has flourished without Mer are the Beast Races. They have their own things going on, but Humans? Bottom of the pile.
Other than the Nords, who slaughtered every Snow Elf they came across, they built up their own stuff, but even then, they only ever got the chance to settle Skyrim since the Snow Elves let them into their province in the first place.
Technically, the humans were the ones who kept on coming to Tamriel since they screwed up their own Continents, if you look at history.
"a good elf is a dead elf" Pelinal Whitestrake, probably :)
unless you're dark elf, you're fine enough for me. Nerevar guide us :D
this is a real good one my dude
Where is pelinal when we need him😔
ESO's Summerset is GOD DAMN amazing.
I asked 4 chan, they kept going on about securing a place for their people and something about Bretons being impure
Based
@Goblock Chieftain rude...
1990what but true
@@obijuanquenobi1911 depending on people's opinions. Theres no right answer...
@brmbly cleansing? Do you mean genocide? If yes then I agree its wrong. Otherwise people can have their opinions. And you must remember that whats your right doesnt mean its their right. There is no one universal right belief.
Wow man you're gonna be at 1 mill subs soon!!
Is there of a video of this caliber about the Daggerfall covenant or the Ebonheart Pact? thatd be sick
I’m creating a word to describe the high elves “over civilized”
Well, I'd rather over civilized than under civilized, like the Nords are
@@thalmoragent9344 ah yes this Thalmor is made of Thalmor
@@hambikv8005
*"It most certainly is. Praise be to Queen Ayrenn, long may her reign be remembered!"*
I love how their videos are done almost like a real world documentary (with the occasional comment like they’re a tour guid)😂
"Kept slovenly hands from desecrating our glorious glassen cities."
Me who installed the Invasion of the Summerset Isles Mod: _Not for long._
With the mention of the Direnni could they be a subject of a new video later?
I dunno if they have enough to fill a video.
"Buncha Aldmer went to Highrock, saw Nedic women and said DEM THICC YO. The End"
Of course not, Tamriel belongs to the bretons.
@wolf bane Wasn't Talos a breton? They kind of already do rule Tamriel from that perspective
@wolf bane Talos was a Kahjiit
@wolf bane it was worth a shot...
Jimothy Jimmz Maiq the Liar is Talos.
@@macdhomhnaill7721 Nah, M’aiq is the Godhead.
Well considering the Thalmor plan to destroy Nirn to ascend to their “rightful” place in Aetherius I wouldn’t say so
@@yesiamawatermelon4126 By that logic, opposimg Mehrunes Dagon was a mistake. Afterall, he also wanted to destroy the Towers.
@@TheBayzent He did not want to acsnenfld nirn he wanted to conquer it
@@yesiamawatermelon4126
Since when have Altmer ever been that altruistic? Their priority is high elves first, other mer if there's time, and screw literally everyone else.
Made my day like always
Can you do a video on whether killing Amand Montiuerr (the guy who assign the assassination of Titus Mede) is a good idea? and possible lore consequences for both decisions.
Keep up the good work!
Wow. Big nord fan, never play high elf. Hearing Drew read that intro speech almost had me making an Altmer character. ALMOST
Imperial is the best...
Seems you nords somehow get along better with Altmer better than those dark elves
@@azadisoleil6319 how do you mean?
Jimothy Jimmz The Altmer not tied to the dominion or college in Skyrim seem to be not treated as poorly. That one In Windhelm of all places herself said she was able to get a place of respect. Those two in Solitude seem ok. Dunmer don’t seem as lucky.
Personally I prefer the dark elves. Been through more so much tougher. I don’t like stone-fist or the gnisis owner, take each person as an individual. But the dunmer are half like that, half let’s just work hard. I’d play a dunmer before Altmer. Too haughty
They already had their chance and failed
They should feel free to try again as long as they actually bring something new to the table and actually prove they’re better rulers than they once were.
@@Valencetheshireman927 considering their whole thing is not changing, probably not no
FudgeMuppet: * Uploads this video *
**Ulfric Stormcloak would like to know your location**
Can you have videos that go in depth with your builds stories? I love listen to the build stories as I'm playing and I think it would be cool if you guys had the story for say the arcane worrier or vampire temptress put in a lot more detail
Khajiit will make the entire world warm sands. Khajiit will crush dagger ears beneath their claws.
Want us to make the moons disappear again?
@@azadisoleil6319
Want us to make another elven race disappear beneath the earth? Because it can be aranged, elf-kin.
We remember Saarthal.
Matt Affenit I dare say Nord you have the wrong mer. You hate the empire, we hate the empire. It’s those dunmer you should be angry at, what have they done to support your cause?
@@azadisoleil6319
I don't hate the Empire, I hate what the Thalmor did to it. The Dunmer fought alongside us in the Second Era - and we stand by our allies. You, however, have been shown time and again to be cowards who would rather betray an ally than stand with them.
Matt Affenit not all Altmer are Thalmor. A lot really hate the uptight stuffy nazi like Altmer attitude.
No, Argonians are the ones who got so swole that they were able to pull a 'no u' during the Oblivion Crisis.
Sorta, Argonians are pretty much destine to never rule anything. They were so good against the daedra because the Hist gave them the powers to be so good. The Hist pulled the 'no u' using their creation the Argonians.
@@LadyLexyStarwatcher It being a symbiotic relationship I would debate that 'the hist' doing something isn't different from 'the argonians' doing it. One existing without the other probably dooms both at some point.
That said yeah the Hist isn't really that big into the whole conquest and conquer thing generally.
Argonians had a reverse uno card during the crisis.
Miriromi13 the hist have been around wayyyyy longer than argonians. The hist don’t need argonians at all.
@@davidpilger4136 Yes, and look at all they've accomplished being trees. They've been around way longer I ain't debating against that. What I am debating is that they are trees and that without argonians it'd just take a nord shouting 'timber'.
Way back at the dawn of the world before Mer and Men... yeah they don't need Argonians. Now? They for sure do. I don't think the Hist that was in the Fighter's Guild quests was going to escape on its own.
Beautiful shots of Alinor from Elder Scrolls Online!!
Sup guys was just wandering if ye will ever do a video on the conjunction of spheres from the witcher I know I'm not on a witcher video just a topic that interest me highly
I think we all know who needs to rule Tamriel and indeed the whole universe...
It's me
I disagree, Jyggles the Prince of Jaggle, high priest of Lagspikes. Trinimac should rule.
@@mattaffenit9898 IM SORRY WHAT!!!
I AM THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE ELDER SCROLLS.
@@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459
Mmmm... no. Trinimac turned into a daedric prince that exists solely to murder other daedra. Also he was pretty and shit.
Matt Affenit I disagree. Maiq the liar should rule all of tamriel
@@mattaffenit9898 HE IS NOTHING COMPARED TO MEE!!!
I have a soft spot for the altmer. I get their perspective. Long life spans, and a culture that emphasizes that they are descendents of something greater and divine. And a longing to return back to where they came from. Aliens on this false reality of nirn.
Their architecture is amazing, everyone is so pristine and clean and beautiful.
Also queen ayrenn. Aside from her being voiced by kate beckinsale who has an amazing voice, I liked her and Raz.
Sadly... Altmer hearts as a whole throughout the ages are clouded with evil. Hope to see good elves taking over.
Also want to see more psijic order in future games. They're so cool.
A well structured argument, of which I commend you, unfortunately it is about Altmer being good, so I must disagree.
They're also a bunch of salty assholes.
Plus, not all of them are like this. An Altmer Legate in the imperial legion hates the thalmor and saw other Altmers get massacred for opposing the thalmor. He’s stationed in skyrim to keep a watch on them
@@obijuanquenobi1911
Ah, but what you fail to realize is I have led you into a trap! What is this trap, you may ask?
... Well, uh... th... there isn't one, I didn't have time to prepare it. But uh... yeah.
_Throws axe_
Matt Affenit too bad, i have the high ground
I love this video fudgemuppet
Can Drew start narrating lullabies please? Preferably set in the Elder Scrolls universe :D
I think that Elves should rule all of Tamriel, in particular the Aldmeri Dominion. personally.
I finished the DawnGuard DLC yesterday and this time I paid attention and I must say I felt sad at the Snow Elves story. I know they attacked the Nords at Saarthal but does that give the Nords the right to exterminate an entire race? I found myself asking the question, if I were in the Snow Elves position what would I do when an alien race rocked up and started taking over my homeland.
@michel durant ..I'm not saying the Thalmor are right in their thinking. I just think its a whole bundle of complication which has no right or wrong answer.
It was their land, they were very tolerant before the attack on Saarthal. And I don't know much about it (except that Tamriel has the "unreliable narrator"), but I bet the nords provoked them into it. Other than the Ayleids being obviously (mostly) evil to the core and the Dunmer having their slave trade, I can't see where "all elves evil" comes from. (I'm a Dunmer supremacist but I can see why others wouldn't want them ruling...)
@@Aethuviel It was the Snow Elves’ land first and they were tolerable of the Nords firstly. And the truth is, we don’t know what truly happened at Sarthal. Personally, I believe what we see in game is likely merely what was told by Ysgramor- Nord “propaganda.” History is written by the victors after all. In fact, I’ve seen videos Scott theories that the Snow Elves didn’t attack the Nords at all. And the fact we now know the Eye of Magnus was there during that time... We definitely don’t have the complete picture.
Everyone blames the Nords, but not the Dwemer. Wtf. You all do know that the Falmer survived well beyond Ysgramor's time, right? They warred countless times with the Nords over centuries, and kept losing, until finally, the Snow Prince fell at the Moesring. Even after that length of time, there were enough surviving Snow Elves to seek refuge with a far crueler neighbour. I honestly doubt Ysgramor even committed genocide. The kings after him? Maybe, but everyone seems to wrongly assume all the Falmer were gone by the time Ysgramor's own life and reign was over, which simply is not true.
@@356MONKEYMAN , it's called "genocide" when ur kind is killed because of ur ethnicity, especially if nords killed around 85% of them no matter kids or women. And going by this logic nords also deserve good old genocide because they did exactly the same "Saarthal" to the dunmer having no reason for it besides "why not?". Obviously they used it as excuse to conquer land and get rid of the locals.
Dwemer were real dickheads though.
*Becomes second Pelinal*
"Right. Gonna get me some new Elven ears to add to my necklace. Aw shit where's my blood drinking goblet? Oi! Dirty Elves!! You have plenty. I'm taking it. Oh no, I'm *not* asking."
Bro had a glass dagger at his throat during this.
Don't forget that an elven tyrant will live for much longer without a blade in their heart then a human will
- Morag Tong advertisement
n’wahs mad (x24)
bruh what music you playin shit sounds fire
where is that statue at 9:08? and what quest takes you there? i dont remember seeing it in skyrim, besides on loading screen.
The better question is "should the dragonborn (aka me) rule all of tamriel?" and the answer is yes. By the end of skyrim nobody alive can stop me, so why fight for the either empire or the stormcloaks when i could just take over the world by myself? And i mean *by myself*, i don't even need an army by that point.
u can just tame 1000 dragons and rule the whole world with peace and prosperity... or with dictatorship and suffering. Who the heck cares? You are unstoppable! (traitors can be FUS RO DAh from the Troat of the world) (Blades should be destroyed cause they are dumb) (nazeem should be sent to Cold Harbor)
True, Tiber septim did it, why can’t the last Dragonborn take the septim name and reform the empire?
Exactly
One thing is the game, and another the Lore.
Good idea
Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
@fudgemuppet_team thanks for your dedication.
Would you ever consider doing a video about what the elder scroll universe could look if it evolved? In terms of technology
Thanks in advance
They low key did with their what if the dwarves never vanished video
@@azadisoleil6319 Thanks but that is not quite I mean. I am talking about in terms of the game technology pretty much has stayed the same. Whilst the dwarven ruins have steam based machines I would like to hear @Fudgemuppet team address their thoughts on the progression of technology in the game and how it could be done right.
I'd give Nirn till round about 1E 2077 before nuclear Armageddon.
i still need to get a chance to play an elf because i like maged (i play bretons alot so thats close right?), but still, the thalmor as of now are zionist REALLY bordering with how they treat mortals and even other elves. The last time elves also has ruling power over multiple mortal races well...we had Ysgramor, Pelinal, and The Argonian Revolution in response (and probably more)
If Elven superiority were true, their own Gods wouldn't continually sack their kingdoms
@michel durant The Gods never try to wipe them out entirely, but they continually have to keep Elven pride in check and have succeeded every time they've tried
Only a human ever JOINED them
No the Khajiit should rule not just Tamriel, but all of Nirn
Yes, finally. Love Khajiits.
What if the dragon born ruled skyrim? Would be interesting. Also a good video idea
It is fascinating that their God of Justice is the same as their God of Wild Luck