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you don’t need to upgrade. What you do is you buy a Ruger LCR in 357 magnum and you take that to the range and shoot about three cylinders worth a full pressure 357 magnum. Then when you go back to your snappy, micro compact, you won’t complain. 😉
I’m actually not trolling. when you learn to deal with a snubby revolver shooting full pressure 357 magnum your reference point for recoil is completely different.
Wives? You got more than one?? 😂🤣😂🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Haha fair enough… respect!
He said "wife", singular 🤔
@@foundationchicago6908 Nah that was a clear Wives
I was gonna comment the same thing 😂🤣😭
What’s up guys SPN firearms here
“It is what it is”
Whatever the case may be. Respect.
Today, we're gonna talk about the Glock 26
@@michaelsweaney3890 haha the glock 26 is goated tho tbh cant blame him for evangelating it
New S&W Comps are 🔥
Have you shot or your just speculating.? I ask cause i was considering one, even tho i just bought another 😅😅
@@Seffry365 Just watched all available videos. Also, I have the XMacro and it shoots very well. I think that S&W makes 1 of the best striker fired pistols out there so their comp’d guns should and will be 🔥. My EDC is a M&P 2.0 compact with all the Floyd goodies and an EPS Carry red dot. Considering getting the full sized metal version. Can’t wait.
@GabrielCarterEGA i feel you! I carry the 3.6, didnt do mothign to mine other then add an sro, 🔥🔥🔥 imma wait a bit amd see if smith will sell just the uppers to save me some money 😅😅
@@Seffry365 yea, mine is the new 3.6” compact with their new “flat faced” triggers. I love it
@@GabrielCarterEGA None of the new models are 3.6"
Glad you answered the question I had. Didn't think it was worth upgrading if you already had the original. Thanks.
Very well put on everything! I don't own a Glock 26 and unfortunately no longer own a Glock or Glock mags due to my house burning down the Sunday before last... At least I grabbed my 12 gauge and P365 before it got bad, but I lost a lot of gun parts for the P365 as well as AR parts and 14k rounds of ammo
Generally speaking, good practice to carry the biggest (and highest round count) you can comfortably conceal 😎
Most if the people that dislike the Hellcat just hate it due to it being a Springfield. A lot of the people that hate on it and call it snappy have heard that online and never even shot one themselves. A few years ago before Hellcat came out people used to shame the hell out of the XD and XDm lines of firearms even though they’re great shooting guns. Were they the best?? No, but they weren’t near as bad as they were made out to be. Again most of the people that hated on the XD line, never actually shot one. The Hellcat and then the Echelon coming out and being great really improved Springfields name in the industry.
@jamiedees8223 I've noticed that too. I also feel like any gun that size is ultimately going to feel the same unless it has a heavier frame. Every place I called about the Hellcat Pro shot it down immediately and recommended I get a 43x (which is smaller). I ended up going with the Hellcat Pro Comp.
I love my hellcat , it shoots better than my buddys sig p365 in my opinion and with the hougue grip on it I enjoy shooting it and I shoot it very well. If you really look at it it’s a very well made pistol too I definitely trust my life to it
I absolutely love my Hellcat Pro. I agree it is not even snappy. That being said I shot a Glock 43x the other day and I absolutely would love one but the Hellcat out of the box is phenomenal.
@@dangerstohlman yeah they do feel good in the hand but for concealed carry purposes the grip is so much longer compared to the hellcat and still holds one less. I know they have the shield 15 mags but I generally don’t feel good about using after market mags for my carry gun
I actually have shot the Hellcat and hellcat pro and.... they're snappy as hell. So now what? I've shot other micros that have better recoil. Even with the MC9 barrel being as short as it is, still isn't as snappy and it's more accurate
Youre totally right about having a rotation SPN, as i carry, the more i realize the differences among carry situations, and my wife needing to carry, i just am stepping up my game. Got a glock 31 for open carry and working on trying to get a cz 75 or p01
Yes exactly. Awesome setups! Respect
“Rotations” are for people who just play at self defense. There’s no reason to change carry guns due to seasons, weather, clothing, etc. Learn to use one gun well, not several mediocre, and carry it all the time.
@garytucholl7699 I agree 100%. Some have thumb safeties, some have grip safeties. Some have DA/SA triggers, some are striker fired, they have different sights, the list goes on and on. In a high stress situation, you may not remember to switch off the safety, or may not remember this gun has a double action,long gritty trigger. I'll stick to 1 gun that I have trained with many, many times over and am 100% confident with.
It is also possible to use a longer holster to utilize the keel principle. For example, a glock 26 in a 19 holster.
Why not just carry the bigger gun at that point ?
@@HondaRiderX17 Grip length.
@oklahomahank2378 I've never understood that. The difference in concealability between, say , a 26 and a 17 grip is so minute it's basically a non-issue. But then again, maybe it's a holster / body type thing.
@@HondaRiderX17 Body type matters. People with a narrower side to side body struggle with longer grips, as do people who are not fat but have a belly.
I got the Hellcat Pro Comp as my first EDC. I'm happy with it. I love how it feels in my hand. Considering I'm only 130-137 lbs, it's practically invisible on me. 😂
As long as you're happy with it, it doesn't matter what anyone else has to say about it! I would like to shoot one myself, but I'm somewhat partial to my P365 that I've customized with the integrated comped slide, FDEZ ported barrel, MCARBO spring kit and flat adjustable trigger, Align Tactical mag release, Tyrant extended takedown lever and slide catch on the Icarus Air grip module.
I honestly love how honest SPN is about his personal opinions because he's definitely not pushing just one product onto anyone! This is what the 2A community needs to be. I've heard good things about most everything on the table and wouldn't mind the IWI Masada, a GX4 Carry, or the MC9 as a backup.
You can’t go wrong with any of these. I wanted a 43x, but then I found out about the Hellcat Pro. I got lucky; I was set on the hellcat pro, but a week before I went to buy the Hellcat Pro, they ended up releasing the Comp version.
@oddballgunman5288 the mc9 was another option I was considering lol
New Shield Plus comp performance center among others dropped today!🔫
I knows it’s going to be crazy! They look unreal!!!!
Is it still considered a “micro”?
@@Cinyon08 def not. id consider anything under 4" barrel micro
The Galloway Precision trigger is a really good upgrade for the Max-9. I did a complete 180 on that gun after installing that trigger.
“He would be fine with any of his wives picking any of these”. That’s cool. , you clearly have more options than most. 😂. Good review.
A compact gun that accurately puts bullets down range is never obsolete. We live in the golden Age of affordable reliable guns.
Please review the M & P 9 Shield Plus Comp. This would be my choice. Thanks for your great reviews.
Thank you for identifying the Pro (or Pro comp) as the only “complete” option right now. I strongly recommend to Pro owners to shell out the extra 85 bones for an Apex trigger and spring set. It sets the Hellcat Pro apart even more.
Great video , seems like companies are slowly approaching the size of a Glock 19 again ?
I tried your advice on a hogue sleeve, for my shield plus, love it. But I've also had it milled for a holosun 407k. And added a silencer co 3.6" threaded barrel and a Samson pocket comp. Great combination. And it doesn't need a wedge on the holster
I like your longer form videos but the G26 is a pudgy little beyotch.
I have the hellcat pro and I love that gun. That will always stay with me. But to conceal carry, I go with the shield plus. That gun is wonderful.
Love Hellcat. Thinking about having an LCP max for summer Carry, Also, im still learning, so something that is manageable on recoil or just a little bit more manageable, to be realistic is nice. I love the design of the hellcat, so I’m going to stick with it, as it is a nearly perfect combination of trade-offs. The grip, capacity can be expended like a Lego set, pick your Lego grip for the day, 11 pinky extension, 13 round or 15 round, all while seamlessly, extending the grip of the gun with no hotspot and it feels like you have a larger gun Grip wise. The textures almost perfect.
The Title is exactly what I was just thinking in my head 😂🔥
Haha respect!
It looks like the microcompact meme is already losing steam.
Every company that makes a micro9 is coming out with increasingly large versions of them with extended grips, longer barrels, and of course the optics cut. Now slide porting seems to be the new fad.
When your "maximum concealment" gun has a compact size grip and barrel, and an optic, the only thing you've got ahead of an actual compact is half an inch of thickness, which does matter in concealment but also makes the gun less shootable. That's what the choice has boiled down to.
I think maybe people were too quick to jump on industry bandwagons because 5 years on we're just back to the subcompact/compact again.
You are not wrong- but remember we like new stuff. That’s all I have 😂
Everyone starts with a Glock 19. Tries a dozen other options and ends up back on the G19.
I was thinking about getting a high capacity micro 9 last year. Then I saw Canik Rival on RUclips, the gun looks amazing for the price, so I bought it instead since I don’t have a full size anyway. So now the Canik Rival becomes my home defense, my previous home defense M&P compact 2.0 3.6in becomes my edc whenever I need more rounds. I usually pocket carry shield 9 2.0 or LCP MAX for maximum comfort. P.S if I had got a micro 9 last year, my shield 2.0 will become no use, and I would not have a better home defense gun.
@@ryanusa860I start with M&P compact 2.0, now mainly carry LCP MAX or Shield 2.0
The firearms world is subject to fashion shifts, as embarrassing as it is
"It just runs"
i live in california and I dont get to have all these things. But I have handled the Hellcat, Sig, and Ruger. Honestly I think the Sig had the best Trigger, the Hellcat pro had the best ergos, and the Ruger had the best overall fit and finish for the price point. I would love a Hellcat pro but with the 365 trigger. That would be amazing. I would buy the Max 9 and Hellcat but the Max 9 CA compliant is too damn safe so I wouldnt ever carry it, thus defeating the point of buying it. Still a better trigger than my gen 3 glocks though.
Imo yes but not necessarily a comp. I got the hellcat pro because it shoots almost like a Glock 19 and less snappy than the average micros. I’ve thought about upgrading to the new comp but haven’t decided if it’s worth it yet. Appreciate it spn!
The brand new Carry Comp Series M&P 2.0 Full Size / Compact and Shield Plus look like the pinnacle of carry guns no matter the size you choose. The only thing about Shield Plus is still no light rail and still RMSc cut instead of Holosun modified K footprint to take both.
Micro 9 for summer, compact for winter
Plenty of us get it, it’s truly individual preference. Everyone’s different. Our carry styles and preferences are different, but I still enjoy the content!
I also have the same setup on my hellcat lol. The hex wasp dot sucks in my opinion. Ran jt forever.
Been carrying a s&w shield plus for over 3 years, but I want something a little bigger like Glock 19 gen5.
shot the hellcat pro and to me it was way snappier than any of the micro 9s..it depends on the size of your hands. I have medium hands but long fingers and I could not find any room for my support hand. I also had trigger bruise and it felt like a grenade in my hand..no other handgun have I not enjoyed shooting more than the hellcat pro. I even tried the small regular hellcat and the hellcat rdp and those still felt better than the pro for recoil management..
Hellcat pro is literally perfect, the only thing i wish was different is they had higher magazine options like a 30 round. Then again that defeats the point of it.
It seems Micro 9’s are growing up
HS Produkt makes great pistols!!
Love the hellcat pro! And my reflex has been flawless!!
I have long fingers and hate shooting thin guns, give me my fat little 2075 rami and I land 10x more hits.
Tried a shield, its a decent gun, just not for me, too thin.
My p01 was my first love, and i only shoot it better every time i take it out. Give me the double stack, the metal frame, the excellent cz 75 ergonomi lc design, and ill shoot well. Give me a straight grip, a polymer frame, and a thin grip, and the gun turns in my hand throwing my shots wide.
Find what's right for your hand, make sure its reliable and safe, all other factors come second.
I would carry my Glock 17 every day and every where if I could but my job requires a lot bending and stooping so I usually pocket carry a small semi auto or snubbie revolver.
Mc9 here ! Loving it so far
Always finding creative new ways to talk about the Glock26.
Good topic my brother 👌🏽
Try the Lakeline barrel on a gx4 carry ..I got rid of my old barrel comp Hellcat ..haven't shot the new hellcat with slide comp but the landline barrel in the gx4 carry and I love it ..still hair under 4 inchs
I got various red dots , I like my Sig Romeo Elite red dot on my Macro it Works very well
just switched from hellcat to canik tp9 elite sc the extra heft and thickness really helps and it’s really not that much more heavy in feeling
Yeah im over the micros i have to big of hands so im using a Gen 4 19 now and I'm really happy with it.
This video should be called buy a hellcat
I don't have a micro 9, yet... My Glock G26 and Ruger LCR are my two smallest.
BUT; I want a Kahr PM9 in a Vedder for pocket carry ❤
Planning on switching from a P365XL to a P30SK
I have a Glock 26 brand new gen 3 jammed 8 times first shoot at the range. Thinking about getting a hellcat pro. Glock 26 or hellcat pro ? Concealed/printing? Shooting?
Spn brother I picked up my 26 today !!!!! Going to the range Friday
what happened to your CZ P-10S? You did a bunch of shorts about it not long ago. But I'd love to see it back to back/side to side held against the shield plus. On handgunhero theky don't have an actual picture from the back to see how much wider that P-10S is. And it's damn hard to find at ranges. If you could do that compare contrast in a vid or a short I'd be grateful.
Glock 26 and hellcat are the only guns I carry religiously
Don't by the rdx I sold mine , just buy a pro or comp pro ..and I think the gx4 carry is better believe it or not I have 5-6 carry guns still and I carry the gx4carry 90% now ..its bigger then most but it just shoots like A dream ..just bought a 2 nd one with comp barrel and dot and one stock with irons
New shield plus dropped 👀
I prefer Hellcat pro sized shooters.
I'm honestly wondering about buying a a couple different handguns to have for the reasons you stated at the end and to be honest with you my carry gun needs a backup in case I need it
Can I order a Hellcat pro holster from blacksmith to fit the pro comp?
Yes it’s the same holster as the regular pro
I have a hellcat and the pro love them both can you tell much of a difference between the original pro and the comp version? I'm not sure I want to upgrade
Just upgraded to a G45 from my micro 9.
Hope your feeling better 👍
I really appreciate that man. This is how we should be as a community. Respect sir
I own a Springfield hellcat osp with a hogue grip you get less recoil in my opinion im just speaking out of experience just get out there & practice with what you carry
Circling back to the G26, compare it to a Canik SC Elite.
I have a Sig 320 XCompact. Do they still go off by themselves? Might trade it for the new Hellcat.
I am not sure. That’s a very good question. I know for a fact they did in many models but I would pray that sig has fixed those issues before continuing to sell them which they probably didn’t lol. I’m sure yours is fine! But the hellcat pro comp is worth a look for sure!
I would brobro.
To me the sear in the 320 is still not retained strongly enough. I’d go with the 365xl or something similar or a glock 19 or 26. Sig just doesn’t have enough experience with striker fired handguns.
Yoooo. I got the sig optic coming for my hellcat, it’s snappy however I have gotten used to it. My other carry is a VP9 for winter.
Does anyone know how to get a Hellcat Pro or Pro Comp slide and barrel by themselves? Want to put it on my normal Hellcat.
The trigger is the only downside to the Hellcats.
What’s the name of the company that makes the holsters that you showed in this video. Having difficulty getting a proper IWB holster for my S&W Shield EZ 9 mm.
Blacksmith tactical. I have tried a lot of holsters and for my appendix carry I absolutely love their holster.
What catastrophic failure did you have with your p365?
Have you seen the new shield plus performance center that just came out looks insane
What going on with your relationship with the gx4
I live in houston, I had every one of them on the table.. every one of them and the only thing that mattered was the trigger pull, I went with the Gx4... I got a 10-round flush, got a 13 round sticks out a little bit and I run a 15 round mag and using a mag grip extension from bloody Wheels... The gx4 was the best trigger bar none... And if I want something bigger I'll use my G19c from Taran Tactical..... Quit playing with all those guns. get one and be done
This is a horrible take. You're saying a Taurus gx4 trigger is better then canik and cz and the glock PERFORMANCE trigger? Horrible Horrible take
Nope
You “had” all of those firearms and ended up with a GX4….. riiiiiiight…..
@@-_-_-_-318 agreed, what a foolish falicy, promoting something entirely untrue lol
@@thePreparedFatherYou ever held a combat master from Taran tactical ?
Do you have a problem with the hellcat trigger not wanting to return when dry firing it? My buddy has one and sometimes it won’t reset if you let the trigger down slow, he sent it to Springfield and they said there’s nothing wrong with it.
Went from a hellcat to 43x mos might go back to this 😭
Why ?
@@angrychilimango630 bc it shoots flatter and has more capacity
@@freddyfingers3 fair enough, I had to get poormeto mags on my 43xmos , wish Glock would get with the times but love the reliability!
I have a shield plus and honestly looking for the most tame able recoil due to wrist issues. Are the hellcat pro comp or the X macro comp better in terms of recoil compared to shield plus ?
Given they are both comped options i would say yes. Between both the sig is likely a little bit flatter shooting. But also do your own research on both and see what you like
MC2c
I'll say this {best trigger}Gen 4 Glock 27, FN reflex ,hellcat Glock 43x {worst trigger}
I heard a ton of stories.. Here.
P365XL is the top of the pile on your table.
If that's a comp then what is a port?
The comp is a single larger port, basically. Most comps are threaded onto the barrel vs cut into it. SIG X-macro has the comp built into the slide at the end of the barrel, kind of proving that the comp doesn't necessarily need to be a part of the barrel.
Porting has been around for a very long time... I'm 54 and remember my dad and his friends talking about the benefits of ported barrels back in the 1970's. Typically ports are small vent holes "drilled" into the end of the barrel, or barrel and slide assembly on semi auto's. Both comps and ports vent gases up to reduce muzzle rise and redirect felt recoil, to some extent.
In my humble opinion, neither is truly superior to the other and both nave some risks for EDC, in that they potentially allow foreign debris to enter your slide and cause problems... Not a big risk, very small chance, but for my personal view, carrying is about reducing risks, avoiding potential problems, etc.
My view starts with winning... I win every conflict I avoid. If I have to fight, I don't telegraph, I don't threaten, I don't display... If my EDC comes out, it is for use, we've gone beyond talking it through, and reached a point that one of us is going to not walk away... Which means I probably tried and was attacked or threatened with attack, physically. And at my age, in my health, grappling isn't an option anymore.
Kimber R7 Mako is my choice. Very nice gun.
Thoughts on the new m&p shield plus carry comp?
You liked my comment then compared them. 👍
They make the micro 9s as small as possible, people complaint and demand they're bigger
SPN I am at least one of the people who dogged on the Masada for being Israeli made, not to attack you, but just to through out there some buyer's preference. A lot of people love Caniks, and many refuse to buy them because they're made in Turkey - a Muslim country. Let Bigons be Bigons
"Let Big'Uns be Big'uns." - Al Bundy
Turkish guns are cheaply made. I own a few. IWI is battle tested. It has nothing to do with religion. And I doubt you know people who refuse to buy Caniks because it’s a Muslim country. Remember, lying is a sin 👍
@@-_-_-_-318 ruclips.net/video/nizxUuI-1PQ/видео.htmlsi=kNr9_F8LRvKOkzka
So here's a Guntuber talking about a Canik, and he gives not Nato country as a reason to politically purchase that brand.
So there are all kinds of reasons people choose to buy or not buy products
2 or 3 years ago my family began boycotting all companies that are pushing trans rainbow stuff down our throats (Disney, Target, Levi's, Budweiser, etc) and now that Israel is committing a genocide in Palestine / Gaza we added all the Zionist supporting companies (McDonald's, Starbucks, HP, Amazon, Meta, Burger King, Walmart, etc)
And for my part Bul Armory and IWI from the firearms industry.
But for SPN I'll shut up now 😎
Any gun 6 months old is obsolite with todays manufacturing and technology
Smh
The glock itself is obsolete. Move on.
Ruger 9 mm compact sucks
Sig p365 Legion X Maxro
Or Xmacro with icarus grip
Period
All i see are budget guns 😂