I think is pretty ironic that "life is simply unfair" is one of the most important (if not the most) premises of ZTD, but beyond the storyline, I felt it like a constant reminder that the ideas and bases for this game were incredibly amazing but yet they didn't succeed as they should have, leaving very small budget for Uchikochi and the studio for working on it. Life is simply unfair, isn't it?
3DS was incredibly expensive to develop for, same reason why there are throes of fantastic hidden gems on the ds, and on the 3ds, most of the 1st party releases are fairly lackluster.
Now announcing current casualties C team : Carlos, Akane, Junpei Q team : Q, Mira, Eric D team : Diana, Phi, Sigma B team : Brat These 10 are now decreased.. 10 x passes will be revealed.. (10 peeps dislike right now)
Honestly, this theme makes me feel bad about Junpei. Think about it, the man's been in the three Zero Escape games, and we don't see him getting much of a happy ending on screen. There's the Epilogue Files and all, but... I dunno, those feel kinda half-assed. He's also gone through _so_ much shit, god damn. To count: Stopped seeing his (at the time) best friend/love interest after she was kidnapped and thrown into an incinerator. Was kidnapped by a paradoxical version of said best friend nine years later, to save the child version of her through the morphogenetic field. Then, after Akane disappeared _again,_ the two wound up at DCom. This time, he's not even the protagonist - therefore, not bound by plot armor. ...Not like he ever really was. In about half the timelines, Junpei winds up dying one way or another, usually without knowing. In one of the timelines (D-End 1, C-End 1), Akane disappears _yet again,_ and Junpei's left to wander alone after the Radical-6 outbreak. Oh, did I mention that in this timeline, Junpei actually proposed to her? Adding salt to the wound, at this point. Sure, he eventually found Quark, but that by itself was... an ordeal. This is the timeline I'll be following from now, given it's where Virtue's Last Reward takes place. Then, 45 years after the DCom event, both Junpei and his infant son are kidnapped and taken to _another_ Nonary Game. In just about all the timelines, Quark winds up either incapacitated, dead, or _both._ Then, it turns out the entire thing, the whole Ambidex Game, was to prevent the Radical-6 outbreak from happening in the first place. Who reveals this, very important piece of information? None other than Akane, of course! It's implied that, at this point, the love they had between each other had long died out, at least on Akane's part. Junpei just can't catch a break, can he?
I don’t think I’d say the love really necessary died out, it’s more that they changed so much as people (again Akane in particular) to where the love that they did still have for each other wouldn’t have panned out. Junpei says as much in Another Time End (technically non-canon but doesn’t conflict with canonical information). For her part, Akane does seem to still care about Junpei, after all she wears the ring he gave her and even mentions to K as a kid that she’s (in her mind) doing this all for Junpei. But her mind is so warped from everything she’s done that she’s really just not the same person anymore, and it took Junpei finally meeting her again for him to realize that and fully move on. That said, as awful and sad as Junpei’s life was in the VLR timeline, I think that same conversation with him and ? in Another Time End presents it in a better light. Junpei himself says wouldn’t want his life to change at all, that all of his experiences and hardships led him to become who he was and his life with Quark, and that made it all worth it; and furthermore that that’s what it means to be human. I personally really love that scene and I think it shows a lot of hope despite such a bleak situation, and that after all of that, in a way, that Junpei did get his own happy ending. Ironically, you could say that the AB game and by extension, Akane, did end up helping him grow into a better and happier person despite everything, in a messed up twist. That’s all just how I see it though, it’s very much open to interpretation and that’s one of the beautiful things about the series
I really wanted to see Junpei give a proper proposal to Akane... or at least confront her about the shit she put him through in the first game... cus it seemed like he was gunna do both
Year of the Rabbit it was stupid recursive shit.But even there they fucked up.Diana is alive😆So it means that they have changed past.So why they couldn't reunite Akane and Junpei if story has changed?Stupid logic
@@SpikeSpiegel96 No, they didn't changed the future in this timeline. Diana's survival was necessary for the transmission and she also had to live with Sigma for a few years in order for him to build Luna. the game had many plot holes, but that was not one of them
*Spoilers* If you beat the game fully and you go back, then check the archives, you can read the aftermath of some characters. Junpei and Akane end up together and are hanging out in the crash keys place (wherever that is) then it's revealed that they are both getting married but the marriage will happen after they find this guy who would kill 8 billion people.
+MrFrankcap I beat the game so this doesn't phase me as much but even with the spoilers tag you should avoid putting spoilers. My issue with them is even when I scroll down I end up reading some of it by accident since people like you are posting spoilers all over the place. Just wait for a while for everyone to finish the game
+Spanish Thunder It's not my fault that the phone app doesn't force you to click on "view more" on pc it is required for you to click on it to see what I write. I want to add to the conversation so I say it is a spoiler, that's the best I can do.
@@dlib89 There's a correlation between the snail and the events of the game unfolding, but correlation isn't causation. The true cause of everything is Mira - specifically, Mira's choice to murder Eric's mother.
This piece is right up there in the list of Soundtrack songs that are guaranteed to give me the feels the moment I hear them. Beautiful. Haunting. Mesmerising. God I love these games.
Every single time I hear this song, A tear is shed...most of it cuz im thinking about that damn Sudoku...but in Zero time dilemma...everything is so good as the end of the series...im only at 1/2 of the game and everytime I tell myself to take a small brake, I cant...Damn you perfect game!
It is... but then how that timeline ends just confirms how unforgivably cruel Akane can be sometimes. I really thought she'd changed when I saw that, but....
+Bioshock Channel I did hear the track, but was never able to put two and two together while I was playing. I guess the instrumentation threw me for a loop as well as its been years since I played 999.
The game had amazing soundtrack, a great story concept, amazing dialogue writing, good development... *_BUT GOOD GOD THOSE ANIMATIONS DIDN'T LET ME FINISH IT WITH MY EYES OPEN_*
@@starlightbard well, the game was never supposed to happen in the first place, the only reason uchikoshi did make zero time dilemma is because people wanted another zero escape game and even helped fund it by donating.
Plot twist was garbage compared to its predecessor though. Also left a lot of questions unanswered, not for the brilliant ending, but for all the plot points introduced in VLR that never got a chance to be devoleped or receive closure...
@@DeepSolid43 You're right, and VLR was absolutely superior in every way, but I like to enjoy ZTD for what it is, and for how much dumber the plot twists were in this story, I still enjoyed them and had fun watching the story unfold.
This series had the biggest impact on me and my mind from all media products in the entire world. No other game, no other movie, anime, book or song impacted me more than those 3 games.
The real tragedy of this game is not having Junpei have his leather jacket on in the game. Jokes aside, yes, the animations and the 3D models leave a lot to be desired. Kind of wished they went back to 999 route with just 2D animations of them.
@@UncannyAura not sure about the feel. They both look determined even tho we can't see her eyes. Anyways, not too bad of a scene to use for a thumbnail IMO :)
@@artempalkin4070 Determined? More like uncertain and afraid. She did not want either Sigma or Phi to die and the pressure was too much on her. The cover art doesn't have that. The art is more ominous!
it's funny to me, seeing so many people talk about how much they don't like this game, when vlr had that same reception when it arrived. the only reason we got time dilemma is because fans in europe and north america begged for it; and honestly, i found this to be a lot more entertaining than 999. perhaps it was the darker themes with soft edges, or how they wrapped everything up, or even the wide variety of music and ties to the other games, (or the fact that you don't have to replay the entire game to get each ending) but i really prefer this over 999. vlr will always be my top favourite, but this one was easily better than 999 imo, and i'm so thankful we got it.
9 dislikes right now. Only time I've ever been remotely happy to see a video I like get any dislikes. Wonder how long it will take for someone to ruin it.
I agree that it was in this game specifically. It's a shame, because I really loved their star-crossed lovers arch across 999 and VLR. A bit corny I know, but I always used to think of them as the "Romeo and Juliet of the spacetime continuum". I thought it was a pretty perfect resolution how Junpei ultimately moved on, and found purpose in someone else (aka, Quark) during his search for Akane. ZTD feels like it forced a happily ever after ending to their relationship. Don't get me wrong, it was sort of nice seeing them having the chance to be together in the end, but they just work better as two people always forced to be star-crossed, and never happy together. Without that, they're just a stereotypical couple.
James G Romeo and Juliet were Sigma and Diana.One of them even has killed himself after killing another one.And Junpei was almost full game a douchebag who began emotionless for people like he was in VLR(except Quark)
This track must've undergone a few changes. They used a different remix for the second trailer, or perhaps it was just done for the trailer specifically.
Don't die!! Folder with pdf, midi, and mus/x files (I might end up editing it later on): www.dropbox.com/sh/1dv1b5pm3umz38g/AAC8gSyxxM0eBuiynq72NZ7fa?dl=0 Cheers!
+Zeila Damn, I didn't see your comment! I've been working on this for nothing... I guess the positive of it is that our transcriptions match up (with a few discrepancies on doubling) for as far as I've transcribed...
No worries! It must've gotten flagged as spam or something. I guess you could think of that as experience then, or if you don't think mine is accurate enough then you can continue it
@@zeila150 and if you DO die, access the morphogenetic field, see if I should buy this lottery ticket, die in that timeline, come back here and TELL me dammit! D:
This reminds me a lot when I played 999. I was crying when this song was playing. I want to see what happens at the end of ZE. I've buyed ZTD but I can't stand its animations. I liked when it was like a visual novel ;-;
I tried to play this game as a big fan of 999 (didn't like VLR that much) but quit within the first hour. The dialogue, especially between Phi and Sigma, was incredibly painful.
I think is pretty ironic that "life is simply unfair" is one of the most important (if not the most) premises of ZTD, but beyond the storyline, I felt it like a constant reminder that the ideas and bases for this game were incredibly amazing but yet they didn't succeed as they should have, leaving very small budget for Uchikochi and the studio for working on it. Life is simply unfair, isn't it?
on point
But hey? At least we got the game still! ^_^
A guess you could say that Zero Escape was simply delta poor hand.
@@ntfreeman Alright, get your throne
3DS was incredibly expensive to develop for, same reason why there are throes of fantastic hidden gems on the ds, and on the 3ds, most of the 1st party releases are fairly lackluster.
6 persons have disliked, Now 6 x-passes will be revealed
Seven now. Guess we better use those transporters.
@@tylerhylton4927 Now announcing the current casualties:
Q-Team: Q, Mira, Eric
D-Team: Diana, Sigma
C-Team: Carlos, Junpei
it's 9
@@tdevyt I couldn't help but pressed the dislike button
coz together with me, we are ten
Now announcing current casualties
C team : Carlos, Akane, Junpei
Q team : Q, Mira, Eric
D team : Diana, Phi, Sigma
B team : Brat
These 10 are now decreased..
10 x passes will be revealed..
(10 peeps dislike right now)
Honestly, this theme makes me feel bad about Junpei. Think about it, the man's been in the three Zero Escape games, and we don't see him getting much of a happy ending on screen. There's the Epilogue Files and all, but... I dunno, those feel kinda half-assed. He's also gone through _so_ much shit, god damn.
To count:
Stopped seeing his (at the time) best friend/love interest after she was kidnapped and thrown into an incinerator.
Was kidnapped by a paradoxical version of said best friend nine years later, to save the child version of her through the morphogenetic field.
Then, after Akane disappeared _again,_ the two wound up at DCom. This time, he's not even the protagonist - therefore, not bound by plot armor. ...Not like he ever really was. In about half the timelines, Junpei winds up dying one way or another, usually without knowing. In one of the timelines (D-End 1, C-End 1), Akane disappears _yet again,_ and Junpei's left to wander alone after the Radical-6 outbreak. Oh, did I mention that in this timeline, Junpei actually proposed to her? Adding salt to the wound, at this point. Sure, he eventually found Quark, but that by itself was... an ordeal. This is the timeline I'll be following from now, given it's where Virtue's Last Reward takes place. Then, 45 years after the DCom event, both Junpei and his infant son are kidnapped and taken to _another_ Nonary Game. In just about all the timelines, Quark winds up either incapacitated, dead, or _both._ Then, it turns out the entire thing, the whole Ambidex Game, was to prevent the Radical-6 outbreak from happening in the first place. Who reveals this, very important piece of information? None other than Akane, of course! It's implied that, at this point, the love they had between each other had long died out, at least on Akane's part.
Junpei just can't catch a break, can he?
He had to go through death in an infinite amount of timelines, although I suppose so did everyone else
I don’t think I’d say the love really necessary died out, it’s more that they changed so much as people (again Akane in particular) to where the love that they did still have for each other wouldn’t have panned out. Junpei says as much in Another Time End (technically non-canon but doesn’t conflict with canonical information). For her part, Akane does seem to still care about Junpei, after all she wears the ring he gave her and even mentions to K as a kid that she’s (in her mind) doing this all for Junpei. But her mind is so warped from everything she’s done that she’s really just not the same person anymore, and it took Junpei finally meeting her again for him to realize that and fully move on.
That said, as awful and sad as Junpei’s life was in the VLR timeline, I think that same conversation with him and ? in Another Time End presents it in a better light. Junpei himself says wouldn’t want his life to change at all, that all of his experiences and hardships led him to become who he was and his life with Quark, and that made it all worth it; and furthermore that that’s what it means to be human. I personally really love that scene and I think it shows a lot of hope despite such a bleak situation, and that after all of that, in a way, that Junpei did get his own happy ending. Ironically, you could say that the AB game and by extension, Akane, did end up helping him grow into a better and happier person despite everything, in a messed up twist. That’s all just how I see it though, it’s very much open to interpretation and that’s one of the beautiful things about the series
Life is simply unfair.
the life of a simp
@@LampreyKissesLife is simp-ly unfair
It's funny that I relate this melody to...
Sudoku-solving.
Inducing amnesia to your boyfriend.
Heck hahaha
Talking about people who that one blonde guy doesn't know
yeah
Best sudoku ever.
Akane and Junpei... Two souls connected by fate. May they live happily ever after.
Akane got so burned by that joke.
+Mannequin Victoria Chase Its hard to play Sudoku. But its even harder to play Sudoku with tears in your eyes.
Not even manly tears, Akane and Sigma da bes.
+Mannequin Victoria Chase that joke was ...
... lit.
Sry m8, but Junpei and clover are otp.
I really wanted to see Junpei give a proper proposal to Akane... or at least confront her about the shit she put him through in the first game... cus it seemed like he was gunna do both
But he did?
Year of the Rabbit it was stupid recursive shit.But even there they fucked up.Diana is alive😆So it means that they have changed past.So why they couldn't reunite Akane and Junpei if story has changed?Stupid logic
Life's not fair, isn't it?
@@SpikeSpiegel96 No, they didn't changed the future in this timeline. Diana's survival was necessary for the transmission and she also had to live with Sigma for a few years in order for him to build Luna. the game had many plot holes, but that was not one of them
@@SpikeSpiegel96 What are you saying? Diana survived the Decision Games in the VLR timeline.
SADNESS TRANSMITTED FROM THE MORPHEGENETIC FEELS
I still want Akane and Junpei to have a happy ending.
They need to destroy "free the soul" first .
At least , akane should have junpei ring this time, since both remember the proposal
*Spoilers*
If you beat the game fully and you go back, then check the archives, you can read the aftermath of some characters.
Junpei and Akane end up together and are hanging out in the crash keys place (wherever that is) then it's revealed that they are both getting married but the marriage will happen after they find this guy who would kill 8 billion people.
As MrFrankcap has already said, they are engaged in the True End, since Akane wears the ring in her left hand now.
+MrFrankcap I beat the game so this doesn't phase me as much but even with the spoilers tag you should avoid putting spoilers. My issue with them is even when I scroll down I end up reading some of it by accident since people like you are posting spoilers all over the place. Just wait for a while for everyone to finish the game
+Spanish Thunder It's not my fault that the phone app doesn't force you to click on "view more" on pc it is required for you to click on it to see what I write. I want to add to the conversation so I say it is a spoiler, that's the best I can do.
1 solitary snail disliked this video.
Syuraten That same snail from a different timelime also disliked.
Life is simply unfair
WhatIsMushlev Don't you think?
The whole game story happened due a freaking snail.... The world changed due a freaking snail on a path!
@@dlib89 There's a correlation between the snail and the events of the game unfolding, but correlation isn't causation. The true cause of everything is Mira - specifically, Mira's choice to murder Eric's mother.
This piece is right up there in the list of Soundtrack songs that are guaranteed to give me the feels the moment I hear them. Beautiful. Haunting. Mesmerising. God I love these games.
You!
Song!...
Yes, you!
Get in my Favourite Soundtracks playlist!
Gets better every time I watch it
the revolver scene was dope
Every single time I hear this song, A tear is shed...most of it cuz im thinking about that damn Sudoku...but in Zero time dilemma...everything is so good as the end of the series...im only at 1/2 of the game and everytime I tell myself to take a small brake, I cant...Damn you perfect game!
Hey pal, it's ok.. I actually suck at sudoku and did it ;-:
Normal sudoku is easy, sudoku when your eyes are full of tears, though...
LOL
Yeah, let's end the finale on a cliffhanger, 10/10 best ending
Jumpy doll
the entirety of the final part of the game, when things start coming together, was pretty bad.
The Boy and the Ring scene is so sweet ;w;
It is... but then how that timeline ends just confirms how unforgivably cruel Akane can be sometimes. I really thought she'd changed when I saw that, but....
+TheEnigmaticKasai at least she keeps the ring +45 years through VLR :3
Ralexand That's true
Welp, at least Junepei is finally CANON AND REAL xD ahem
dat left hand
This is such a wonderful melody. Thanks.
I want this to be played at my funeral.
Me too. I want the old ladies crying over this, not knowing where it came from.
Why not Blue Bird Lamentation
Me too and all the other sad Zero escape songs
THIS WAS MORPHOGENETIC SORROW?
Mind blown.
yup it first started from square 1 to remixes to your heart
+Bioshock Channel I did hear the track, but was never able to put two and two together while I was playing.
I guess the instrumentation threw me for a loop as well as its been years since I played 999.
The game had amazing soundtrack, a great story concept, amazing dialogue writing, good development...
*_BUT GOOD GOD THOSE ANIMATIONS DIDN'T LET ME FINISH IT WITH MY EYES OPEN_*
What if someone animated the story in better detail? :O Now that would be groundbreaking
@@prispalos Hell yeah, if that happened I would play it again, PROPERLY XD
@@starlightbard well, the game was never supposed to happen in the first place, the only reason uchikoshi did make zero time dilemma is because people wanted another zero escape game and even helped fund it by donating.
Plot twist was garbage compared to its predecessor though. Also left a lot of questions unanswered, not for the brilliant ending, but for all the plot points introduced in VLR that never got a chance to be devoleped or receive closure...
@@DeepSolid43 You're right, and VLR was absolutely superior in every way, but I like to enjoy ZTD for what it is, and for how much dumber the plot twists were in this story, I still enjoyed them and had fun watching the story unfold.
This series had the biggest impact on me and my mind from all media products in the entire world. No other game, no other movie, anime, book or song impacted me more than those 3 games.
A piano version! How beautiful
1 person has complex motives
The real tragedy of this game is not having Junpei have his leather jacket on in the game.
Jokes aside, yes, the animations and the 3D models leave a lot to be desired. Kind of wished they went back to 999 route with just 2D animations of them.
this hits me too hard. the perfect music for a deceased person who you love soo much and is also perfect for doing some sacrifices
I'll never forget you, Junpei.
But please... forget me.
This will always be one of my favorite songs from a soundtrack
When it's time for them...
COMPLEX MOTIVES
It had its flaws, but at the end after finishing the game, I was sad, that it was over.
Even a small Snail can change the destiny
Wish they had a remix of Recollection as well
An extended version of this song (and some of the other ZTD songs would be wonderful!) :)
Damn. Can't help but look at the cover art and think to myself "This is false advertising! Diana was not behind Sigma when this shit went down!" Lol
You mean coz there was no place behind coz of the wall?
@@artempalkin4070 Yup. Plus, the cover art gives the scene a creepy feel to it. The actual situation doesn't have that same feel.
@@UncannyAura not sure about the feel. They both look determined even tho we can't see her eyes. Anyways, not too bad of a scene to use for a thumbnail IMO :)
@@artempalkin4070 Determined? More like uncertain and afraid. She did not want either Sigma or Phi to die and the pressure was too much on her. The cover art doesn't have that. The art is more ominous!
@@UncannyAura yeah I mean the art. The emotion doesn't seem right. It should be more like you explained. But I wouldnt say creepy ;)
Dunno what it is about this song in particular that makes me crack up every time it starts playing maybe its the overwhelming sadness and drama of it?
Seek a way out.
Seek a door,that carries a nine...
Fuck me, it's impossible not to cry while listening to this
it's funny to me, seeing so many people talk about how much they don't like this game, when vlr had that same reception when it arrived. the only reason we got time dilemma is because fans in europe and north america begged for it; and honestly, i found this to be a lot more entertaining than 999.
perhaps it was the darker themes with soft edges, or how they wrapped everything up, or even the wide variety of music and ties to the other games, (or the fact that you don't have to replay the entire game to get each ending) but i really prefer this over 999. vlr will always be my top favourite, but this one was easily better than 999 imo, and i'm so thankful we got it.
9 dislikes right now. Only time I've ever been remotely happy to see a video I like get any dislikes. Wonder how long it will take for someone to ruin it.
10 dislikes now. I guess it truly is the decision game.
Akane and Junpei's relationship was handled terribly.
I agree that it was in this game specifically. It's a shame, because I really loved their star-crossed lovers arch across 999 and VLR. A bit corny I know, but I always used to think of them as the "Romeo and Juliet of the spacetime continuum". I thought it was a pretty perfect resolution how Junpei ultimately moved on, and found purpose in someone else (aka, Quark) during his search for Akane. ZTD feels like it forced a happily ever after ending to their relationship. Don't get me wrong, it was sort of nice seeing them having the chance to be together in the end, but they just work better as two people always forced to be star-crossed, and never happy together. Without that, they're just a stereotypical couple.
James G Romeo and Juliet were Sigma and Diana.One of them even has killed himself after killing another one.And Junpei was almost full game a douchebag who began emotionless for people like he was in VLR(except Quark)
This track must've undergone a few changes. They used a different remix for the second trailer, or perhaps it was just done for the trailer specifically.
necklace is blue bird in cage
so this is the song everybody said that was going to riot if it wasnt on the game
the part starting from 30 sec reminds me of steins gate
999 feels
good game
This is my right hand
Wait what ?
I neeeeeeeeeed this game.
Please someone I need the sheet music or I might die pls pls pls pls pls
Don't die!!
Folder with pdf, midi, and mus/x files (I might end up editing it later on): www.dropbox.com/sh/1dv1b5pm3umz38g/AAC8gSyxxM0eBuiynq72NZ7fa?dl=0
Cheers!
I'm working on it. I'll try and remember to message you when it's done.
+Zeila Damn, I didn't see your comment! I've been working on this for nothing... I guess the positive of it is that our transcriptions match up (with a few discrepancies on doubling) for as far as I've transcribed...
No worries! It must've gotten flagged as spam or something. I guess you could think of that as experience then, or if you don't think mine is accurate enough then you can continue it
@@zeila150 and if you DO die, access the morphogenetic field, see if I should buy this lottery ticket, die in that timeline, come back here and TELL me dammit! D:
This reminds me a lot when I played 999. I was crying when this song was playing. I want to see what happens at the end of ZE. I've buyed ZTD but I can't stand its animations. I liked when it was like a visual novel ;-;
I'm the other way around. After I played the entire ZE series, I played Steins;Gate and I could not stand the static novel style.
Devilman vibes
does anybody have the sheet music?
This morphogenetic sorrow don’t start as the other 2 from VLR and 999 >:((
es verdad que es medio corto pero sí consigue cerra de forma satisfactoria, a pesar de que carezca un poco de información
I tried to play this game as a big fan of 999 (didn't like VLR that much) but quit within the first hour. The dialogue, especially between Phi and Sigma, was incredibly painful.
rip Carlos has nothing important to do
akane after all of her teammates die to carbon dioxide
WHY THE HELL IS THE ONLY C END THE ONE THAT TIES INTO VLR?!?!?!!?!?!!!??
complex motives
This version isn't as good as the original, but it's still pretty damn good!
Abdiel Spring
Rosalee Court
It's a shame the revolver scene depicted here was grossly oversized in the 3D scene.
11415 Sanford Drive
58442 Crystel Groves
WEIIIII NOOOOOO!!!!!!
Hintz Drives
652 Bernice Land
I do not know how they managed to remove every single emotion from this song but they did do that
16505 Ashlynn Square
Sudoku bgm
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