The damage difference is neglegible ngl. The main problem is the farming efficiency. Now that the Golden Troupe is paired with one of the best set for DPS, Marechausse Hunter, it is more resin-efficiency than the Husk set with Ocean Hued Clam which is utterly niche and underwhelming.
i mean i guess golden does slightly pull back in terms of damage but considering you dont need to wait for all the husk stacks it has pretty decent uptime
Husk stacks is easy if the character off field actually, if character off-field or not active the stack will go up and not go down.. if the character active you need to give geo DMG to keep the stack, and albedo is the type off-field, so the stack always maximum.. thats why in mono geo i always use john-lee for main active character if not in combat, so my albedo and itto stack always at maximum when battle...
actually husk is more better in all situation then GT, like in coop mode husk is better, but for domain efficiency GT is better if u dont have kokomi and have alot fontain character
I'd actually like to see you showcase MH with Burgeon teams or just teams that feature a good healer (especially Hutao). I dont have Kokomi, but if I did i would run Nahida, Xingqiu, Kokomi and HuTao with the new Maéchaussé Hunter set. Ideally i can meet the sweet spot of crit damage and elemental reactions!
@christopherflores5405 I specifically thought of Hutao because she gets two stacks from her Skill and Burst. With healing and burgeon damage, it'll be the easiest for someone like her to keep up all 3 stacks. Of course, it's not optimal for generating the most burgeons, but boosting her crit rate instead is very useful, especially for a character who up until this point, hasn't had the best F2P weapon options. I also made a viable burgeon team with Hutao Double Hydro with YaoYao. Though her dendro app isn't as amazing healing is key.
Video is pretty interesting! Now, something that should be considered is whether it still remains the same ratio with good artifacts. Your current Troupe had close to no Def% (only 6% I think), which is a huge downside for Albedo. Husk giving 54% DEF (and around +15% with your current set), it gives him high benefits. I have the feeling that with higher DEF, final DMG would be even closer, if not the same. Hope you can update it once you get better artifacts.
Imma pretend I understood that for a second, so let's say you can get Golden Troupe with lots of DEF, will that work better with Albedo or the Husk set is still top pick?
@@sharon5965 oh. Okay. So in the end it comes down to how you would prefer to build him instead? For off-field or burst damage right? Or something like that
@@pelawallis I think its more..if ur c2 then stay with husk..if c0 then husk and troupe sets are the same so which ever set gives better overall stats is what will win
A benefit to golden troupe is that you can farm for a marechaussee set at the same time, while the husk domain gets you clam lol, luckily the dmg difference is not significant
there were some nuances missing from this comparison. For example, when using gorou and for those who don't have cinnabar (harbinger for example) would troupe be better? If you use harbinger so Def goblet is better geo goblet?
I have a decent husk set on him right now, but considering, that I'm farming for both sets from Denouement of Sin, I might swap his artifacts to Golden Troupe, if I get a 4pc with better stats.
I got mainly def% substats upgrades on my artifacts: 3190 def, 66%c/82%cdmg with full Husk stacks--can get to 25k with just zhongli shred. Q_Q too tired trying to get new husk artifacts with more cdmg lol
can you also try putting/experimenting the golden troupe set on Yelan? I'm just curious on how much 45% skill boost can do compare to 4pc emblem/2x2hydrohp sets 😭🙏🏻
After looking with an artifact calculator with both sets with the same stats, Golden Troupe is better for non C2 Albedo for his elemental skill, but once he hit C2 Husk boost his burst damage way more.
@@MMOJACKX57Channel at C0 Albedo you mostly will have him off field not doing his burst much anyway but otherwise Husk really shine more at C2+ where you want to use the burst more.
@@TatsuMaChannelI mean, if you're playing him off-field then you'll have max stacks anyways. And since you have plenty of time in the abyss before each chamber to wait for the stacks, there shouldn't really be a situation where you wouldn't have max stacks. The only thing is if you're running around the overworld with him out then he'll lose those stacks, while with Golden Troupe it's easier to keep the perk active even if he's on field for an extended period of time. But overworld mobs are easy enough without max stacking Husk beforehand, and you're probably doing it because you like him as a character anyway (I know I do lmao)
Could you try Golden Troupe on Dehya vs Vourukasha's Glow? If you were to use her as an E-bot, like especially with C1+, I wonder how much damage Golden Troupe does for her or if the damage between sets are super similar.
Instead of mona i use yelan. She increases his dmg over time plus adds those extra hits and provides shields from crystallize, I have C0 albedo and im almost doing 50k. I really should farm for better artifacts.
Husk stacks is easy if the character off field actually, if character off-field or not active the stack will go up and not go down.. if the character active you need to give geo DMG to keep the stack, and albedo is the type off-field, so the stack always maximum.. thats why in mono geo i always use john-lee for main active character if not in combat, so my albedo and itto stack always at maximum when battle...
@@MMOJACKX57Channel and mor fore GEO because 6% def and 6% geo DMG per stacks.. too bad is spesific for geo element, if they just say 6% elemental DMG so other than geo can use it at maximal too.. well, not much character scale by def, mostly geo anyway...
@@MMOJACKX57Channel imo if they ask what good for albedo then i go with HoOD, especially C2 albedo.... but for effiency then go golden.. because golden can be used by fischl, yae, and nahida too... the different mybe on sands, which is albedo using def sands, fischl using attack, nahida EM, well its based on their scale
there were some nuances missing from this comparison. For example, when using gorou and for those who don't have cinnabar (harbinger for example) would troupe be better?
not pretty equal comparison looking at substats(as fast as I can cuz u speed up there), also 2200 def compared to 2700, i ve seen other videos where golden troupe is better with a bit + yea the bonus that u don't need to stack it up
One thing I noticed now is that you can't stay in the field too long with albedo and fischl as you lose all the potential of the new set because of your snapshot. It must be bad for their ult (unless I'm wrong).
im just a casual player and im terrible with math 😔😔 all these posts i keep seeing on the comparisons dont seem very straight forward and i cant wrap my head around it 😅 my Husk artifacts for albedo arent the greatest (in terms of substats) and his def is currently at 1500ish. i just gave him the wolf-fang over harbinger, so im wondering if i should get a crit dmg circlet for him instead of a def circlet. but overall i still cant figure out if i should try using the artifact box to pull for better Husk artifacts or if i should start farming for golden troupe 😫
@@MMOJACKX57Channel Most of Geo Traveler's dmg comes from skill and in a quick swap team he doesn’t need that much field time. So he can at least get 45% skill dmg bonus.
If albedo didnt have cinnabar, probably golden would be better, but cinnabar is so amazingly strong that allows a worst set to be slightly ahead, not counting having a better sinergy with c2
Everytime I see his signature weapon I cry inside
Yeah not fair hoyo move. He needs a 5 star weapon then.
Real
FR man!!
me with a r5 that i dont use 🧍🏻
how tp obtain that weapon ?
@@hasawe
The damage difference is neglegible ngl.
The main problem is the farming efficiency. Now that the Golden Troupe is paired with one of the best set for DPS, Marechausse Hunter, it is more resin-efficiency than the Husk set with Ocean Hued Clam which is utterly niche and underwhelming.
this set maybe ez to use than husk :)
You can now craft husk set so you farm golden troupe and then feed the bad pieces to get husk.
Plus you can now strongbox Husk.
Yep. And I have Neuvillette and Wriothesley, and I'm very close to 300% crit dmg on Neuvillette, I don't wanna back down now
For someone like you, who has Albedo's C2 husk definitely pulls ahead especially if you use his burst.
yeah , more DEF + geo dmg bonus still better
i mean i guess golden does slightly pull back in terms of damage but considering you dont need to wait for all the husk stacks it has pretty decent uptime
Husk stacks is easy if the character off field actually, if character off-field or not active the stack will go up and not go down.. if the character active you need to give geo DMG to keep the stack, and albedo is the type off-field, so the stack always maximum.. thats why in mono geo i always use john-lee for main active character if not in combat, so my albedo and itto stack always at maximum when battle...
actually husk is more better in all situation then GT, like in coop mode husk is better, but for domain efficiency GT is better if u dont have kokomi and have alot fontain character
Just building him for the first time now, so I think I'll go for Golden Troupe. It's also aesthetically pleasing on him.
yeah , not bad set for ALbedo :)
I'd actually like to see you showcase MH with Burgeon teams or just teams that feature a good healer (especially Hutao). I dont have Kokomi, but if I did i would run Nahida, Xingqiu, Kokomi and HuTao with the new Maéchaussé Hunter set. Ideally i can meet the sweet spot of crit damage and elemental reactions!
OR you could just put it on a bloom driver since bloom does dmg on players too.
@christopherflores5405 I specifically thought of Hutao because she gets two stacks from her Skill and Burst. With healing and burgeon damage, it'll be the easiest for someone like her to keep up all 3 stacks. Of course, it's not optimal for generating the most burgeons, but boosting her crit rate instead is very useful, especially for a character who up until this point, hasn't had the best F2P weapon options. I also made a viable burgeon team with Hutao Double Hydro with YaoYao. Though her dendro app isn't as amazing healing is key.
I tried it with kokomi for shits and giggles but it’s actually good.
Video is pretty interesting!
Now, something that should be considered is whether it still remains the same ratio with good artifacts.
Your current Troupe had close to no Def% (only 6% I think), which is a huge downside for Albedo. Husk giving 54% DEF (and around +15% with your current set), it gives him high benefits.
I have the feeling that with higher DEF, final DMG would be even closer, if not the same.
Hope you can update it once you get better artifacts.
with good stats i think new set same with husk set :)
Imma pretend I understood that for a second, so let's say you can get Golden Troupe with lots of DEF, will that work better with Albedo or the Husk set is still top pick?
@@pelawallis i think what they mean is that if the substats were equal, the sets would be equal in strength.
@@sharon5965 oh. Okay. So in the end it comes down to how you would prefer to build him instead? For off-field or burst damage right? Or something like that
@@pelawallis I think its more..if ur c2 then stay with husk..if c0 then husk and troupe sets are the same so which ever set gives better overall stats is what will win
A benefit to golden troupe is that you can farm for a marechaussee set at the same time, while the husk domain gets you clam lol, luckily the dmg difference is not significant
there were some nuances missing from this comparison. For example, when using gorou and for those who don't have cinnabar (harbinger for example) would troupe be better? If you use harbinger so Def goblet is better geo goblet?
new artifact domain so good for farming 4.0 character :)
I have a decent husk set on him right now, but considering, that I'm farming for both sets from Denouement of Sin, I might swap his artifacts to Golden Troupe, if I get a 4pc with better stats.
yeah , new domain maybe good for farming :)
I got mainly def% substats upgrades on my artifacts: 3190 def, 66%c/82%cdmg with full Husk stacks--can get to 25k with just zhongli shred. Q_Q too tired trying to get new husk artifacts with more cdmg lol
Husk still good bro :)
Weapon : harbringer of dawn
Golden troupe
Sands : def%
Goblet : geo dmg bonus
Circlet : crit
Or
Sands : def%
Goblet : def%
Circlet : Crit
Which one better?
i think same , just choose best stats
can you also try putting/experimenting the golden troupe set on Yelan? I'm just curious on how much 45% skill boost can do compare to 4pc emblem/2x2hydrohp sets 😭🙏🏻
don't use this set on Yelan bro :)
Her main dmg comes from her burst so idk why you would want to buff her skill
maybe he likes to use her e the most and is using her as a main dps or something@@kirkperez2014
Not bad , just +/- ~ 3% DMG with Husk set :) !
Husk in this case have more crit rate than Golden Troupe, and not a negligible amount. So Golden Troupe may be better.
After looking with an artifact calculator with both sets with the same stats, Golden Troupe is better for non C2 Albedo for his elemental skill, but once he hit C2 Husk boost his burst damage way more.
maybe just good for elemental skill DMG
@@MMOJACKX57Channel at C0 Albedo you mostly will have him off field not doing his burst much anyway but otherwise Husk really shine more at C2+ where you want to use the burst more.
It's not to bad...passive is more stable than husk
yeah , just E then off field :)
Husk is more stable man
@@rocko1721what he meant is, husk needed 4 stacks of its passive
@@TatsuMaChannelI mean, if you're playing him off-field then you'll have max stacks anyways. And since you have plenty of time in the abyss before each chamber to wait for the stacks, there shouldn't really be a situation where you wouldn't have max stacks.
The only thing is if you're running around the overworld with him out then he'll lose those stacks, while with Golden Troupe it's easier to keep the perk active even if he's on field for an extended period of time. But overworld mobs are easy enough without max stacking Husk beforehand, and you're probably doing it because you like him as a character anyway (I know I do lmao)
@@SunSun-sk4si the problem is when the flower is not placed well
we need a rerun for his weapon and put it in the standard banner as well so we can get it in the future
hope so :) !
no the old players need to have this for themselves, its so satisfying for some reason lmao
*Show a chart recap of both results at the end.*
Thanks a lot for making this video
enjoy bro :3 !
Could you try Golden Troupe on Dehya vs Vourukasha's Glow? If you were to use her as an E-bot, like especially with C1+, I wonder how much damage Golden Troupe does for her or if the damage between sets are super similar.
Golden Troupe < Vourukasha's Glow for Dehya bro :)
@@MMOJACKX57Channel for skill damage?
Instead of mona i use yelan. She increases his dmg over time plus adds those extra hits and provides shields from crystallize, I have C0 albedo and im almost doing 50k.
I really should farm for better artifacts.
yeah , mona for nuke ~ 5s , yelan ~ 15s
Husk stacks is easy if the character off field actually, if character off-field or not active the stack will go up and not go down.. if the character active you need to give geo DMG to keep the stack, and albedo is the type off-field, so the stack always maximum.. thats why in mono geo i always use john-lee for main active character if not in combat, so my albedo and itto stack always at maximum when battle...
Husk set maybe still a best set for DEF build character :)
@@MMOJACKX57Channel and mor fore GEO because 6% def and 6% geo DMG per stacks.. too bad is spesific for geo element, if they just say 6% elemental DMG so other than geo can use it at maximal too.. well, not much character scale by def, mostly geo anyway...
@@MMOJACKX57Channel imo if they ask what good for albedo then i go with HoOD, especially C2 albedo....
but for effiency then go golden.. because golden can be used by fischl, yae, and nahida too... the different mybe on sands, which is albedo using def sands, fischl using attack, nahida EM, well its based on their scale
there were some nuances missing from this comparison. For example, when using gorou and for those who don't have cinnabar (harbinger for example) would troupe be better?
not bro , with harbinger more DEF + geo bonus better than E DMG bonus
troupe will still do more dmg if the def is similar, considering his troupe build have way less def than husk build,
not pretty equal comparison looking at substats(as fast as I can cuz u speed up there), also 2200 def compared to 2700, i ve seen other videos where golden troupe is better with a bit + yea the bonus that u don't need to stack it up
Wow the difference is actually really small. I thought husk would win by a long shot
pls do nahida !! deepwood vs golden troupe vs glided vs golden troupe (with deepwood debuff) vs glided (with deepwood debuff) thank you!
maybe on next day :)
If you have Cinnabar spindle, I suggest you go full DEFENSE golden troupe to maximize weapons passive.
One thing I noticed now is that you can't stay in the field too long with albedo and fischl as you lose all the potential of the new set because of your snapshot. It must be bad for their ult (unless I'm wrong).
it cant snapshot the artifacts' passive
the golden troupe is better to farm, this is a important point
yeah , farming for new 4.0 character
Still waiting for better Albedo artifact that can support/boost stat like Tenacity.
maybe Husk set is best now
im just a casual player and im terrible with math 😔😔 all these posts i keep seeing on the comparisons dont seem very straight forward and i cant wrap my head around it 😅 my Husk artifacts for albedo arent the greatest (in terms of substats) and his def is currently at 1500ish. i just gave him the wolf-fang over harbinger, so im wondering if i should get a crit dmg circlet for him instead of a def circlet. but overall i still cant figure out if i should try using the artifact box to pull for better Husk artifacts or if i should start farming for golden troupe 😫
Husk maybe still better ~ 5-10%
@@MMOJACKX57Channel ty!
The difference of stats between 2 sets is too huge. For example, the feather of GT is so bad, compare to Husk's
maybe Golden set better DMG with Good stats or Same with Hust Set
Can you do a video on 4pc Golden troupe vs 2pc Atk 2pc Geo on Geo Traveler?
geo traveler don't use this set bro :) , geo traveler need on field + burst DMG
@@MMOJACKX57Channel Most of Geo Traveler's dmg comes from skill and in a quick swap team he doesn’t need that much field time. So he can at least get 45% skill dmg bonus.
if u use triple defense or double defense, it should be better
no idea :)
I want that event sword
It's gone for forever bud
Would this set works on childe?
not bro , childe need on field normal atk + bonus burst dmg , this set only E dmg
@@MMOJACKX57Channelisn't childe C4 elemental skill?
@@teucerceoofgenshincreative8019not too good :D
What the heck... Your Albedo's passive is god tier, while mine's damage is shit 😂
new set stats not good :)
Albedo wolf fang sword is good for him?
not bad but i not get this weapons !
Waiting 4.1 maybe
was hoping for this artifact pass the old set :(
with good stats i think same :)
Bro thats just 3% lmao its literally nothing ahhahaha
Can someone just tell me which is better? Jm so confused 😢😂
same but i think husk still better ~ 5-10%
is the artefact good for zhongli afk build?
just buff for E dmg bro
@@MMOJACKX57Channel could you post a video of how effective is it for zhongli?
@@MMOJACKX57Channel You know bro. He asking for zhongli + geo traveler ( zhongli E dmg build )
Yo amo a Alberto la verdad.
:3 !
With Fischl pls
Pls wait for next day :3
Fischl pls ? Great video
pls wait bro :)
If albedo didnt have cinnabar, probably golden would be better, but cinnabar is so amazingly strong that allows a worst set to be slightly ahead, not counting having a better sinergy with c2
just a 4 star event weapon but so broken :)
Ur not playing with Albedo !!! Just put the flower and the rest for zonghli
off field dmg
c6 xiao pls
this set maybe not good for xiao :D
Nice. This is worthless.
Time to delve into spreadsheets....
:)