5 Things Honkai: Star Rail Does Better Than Genshin Impact
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- With how similar Honkai: Star Rail's game systems and mechanics are to Genshin Impact, I wanted to make a video listing 5 things Star Rail does better than Genshin! (And then I'll release a video in a couple of days I'll release a video on the inverse)
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Hoyo took the critism from Genshin and instead of improving it,
Implemented it in Honkai 😂😂
I get that starting fresh with a new game is easier but come on Hoyoverse. Your cash cow is barely changed over 3 years. You can't be bothered to improve the menuing and grind 3 years in?
@@shadycat8898 it is what it is :')
@@shadycat8898 It's their cashcow, that's why it won't be improved, there is no need to because it has a default audience that will play it no matter what.
@@asdion They have improved on Genshin's systems multiple times already though (e.g. resin cap, weapon banner path, strongbox). It's just a lot slower with the implementation of changes. Still, saying that it won't be improved is just disingenuous.
@@user-qn4qu4ow8p saying they do it EXTREMLY SLOWLY is an understatement
Honestly what I love about star rail is the fact that characters ACTUALLY feel like people in the world you build a connection with instead of only seeing them in quests then they go full M.I.A. until the next event they are needed in, and imma admit I love the random daily messages from characters since it feels like they stay connected to the main gang, I love the fact we can see em pop in the express every now and then. I’m a huge sucker for stories and interactions between characters so I’m a very happy trailblazer rn :D
SAME I love the texts! I'm always excited to see who's messaged me when I log in and the interactions you have just help to flesh out their personalities so much better
Pela: Hey, do you know how to deal with a hangover?
One of the best ones I had have 😂
For me the best text I’ve gotten is with Sampo starting his text with “Fam”
@Direktor-en1ik my current fav I've gotten was Arlan mistaking the message app as the memo app. Very relatable
Nice pfp
One thing to add in terms of HSR having better QoL, the fact we can easily switch the Trailblazer's element/path just by going into their menu rather than having to travel somewhere and go through a tedious process is so SO good
Also that you can do it (almost) anywhere, including in the simulated universe.
Imagine being able to change the traveler's element in between abyss chambers (even if right now that's kinda pointless cause they all suck except for dendro).
there's no statues in hsr to begin with
For one, I think it's just due to differenting genre of the games. Genshin is supposed to be an adventure game so mihoyo made it so that most interactions would feel like an adventure.
@@kish4corheunbl and tedious too
Also the fact that the energy gets recorded when you switch instead of going to 0 is a huge qol too
Trailblazer's personality is 100% one of the main attractions of HSR.
One of my favorites was:
Trash Panda "Dan Heng, March 7th, it was a pleasure trailblazing with you"
March 7th "I DON'T WANT TO HEAR HEARTFELT GOODBYES RIGHT NOW!"
As we're surrounded by soldiers.
Sameeee 😢😢 I love how the trailblazer can have humor and mess around.
Not only can Trailblazer say some wild stuff the other characters actually respond to the dialogue you pick yet another improvement from Genshin
Dialogues from other characters actually changes depending on what u say. It’s the main reason why I’m not bored so much through this game story yet. Because in genshin whatever response u pick the answer arrived the same
@@lynndylan4674 Yes and no.
That does happen but there have also been times I've picked an option and the response I got I'm pretty damn sure was meant for the other option that I didn't pick. Because the context just didn't make sense otherwise.
It seem to be like Persona where the very next line or 2 acknowledges what you said. Then the conversation moves on and arrives at the pre decided conclusion.
@@ink4852 of course. Its not like theyre going to make infinite paths and endings for each interaction on the whole game lol. However there ARE many world quests and even companion quests that allow you to make decisions that totally change the outcome, unlike Genshin's. And you can reject some quests or interactions aswell, its interesting
@@ink4852 i mean they aren't gonna make infinite routes and endings for everything. at least hsr managed to make me feel my choices seem to matter to a degree even if it doesn't change the actual outcome ingame. u can get different flavor of texts from many quests. unlike genshin where barely any choice has any different response
Yeah even if the outcome doesn't change at least it allows for some light roleplaying with the answers which is very welcomed.
Easy: Star Rail has a Character named March 7th
March 7th > Paimon any day lmao
a silly name and character which, i swear, hoyoverse will find a way to make it the most traumatizing shit when they reveal more info
Genshin naming: *ars goetia*
Star rail naming: looks around room, spots the calendar
I bet march 7th was created on march 7th
@@Static-EN- Just needs to get her memories back and realize that everyone she knows died centuries ago since she was frozen in space ice for an indeterminate amount of time
About the no Paimon thing, I do agree lol
With no Paimon to do all the decisions and dialogues for you, you do feel that you are your own character and are in full control of whatever it is you're doing, which makes for a better player experience
As someone who loves Paimon, this is a negative for me lol
@@CaptainPikeachu I felt like Im the ONLY one who likes her lol
@@kaeyasl1t y'all are definitely a minority
@@accannam1681 it’s sad we are
that would be too cruel, but at least give more interaction, option and chance for MC to talk, paimon can do her own things but the MC can have that too after her. if paimon do most of the talk then she take the role-playing completely
12:01 one note: Memory Hall is the equivalent to Genshins Spyral Abyss while Simulated Universe is based on Honkai Impact 3rd's Elysian Realm.
So they took both endgame modes of their preexisting games and combined them :D
Just like the ER the SU is fun as hell
The issue now is overtime after you play a lot and hit that "suffer from success" effect after achiving a lot of stuff is that the thing we praise start becoming a chore.
I all with more thing to do, but a lot of people don't ever consider the long term effect of the thing they want.
I played a few Game and Gacha as day 1 and stay for about a year+ and the amount of things the dev add into the game add up to the point the majority don't want to do even if there are reward mainly because it a chore.
@@JC14minecraft yeah ER is fun but also alot more complex tbh i like the simplicity of SU you can practicly win with every Blessing while in Honkai Impact you have the hardest time of your life in 2.25 2.5 when you dont pick the best Signet(s) for the character. I can easily clear W3 Difficulty 2 with abundance or freeze with HoFi i need to pick Helix first else the run will take ages.
@@damonhalgasch6674 I feel that's a progress issue. I just now unlocked world 6, and EVERY world past 2 has up to 6 difficulty measures, so...
All in good time. (Though, pros I don't see any specific reason to up the difficulty if you don't want to, unless you want the specific Planar Relics that difficulty drops. so enjoy at your path)
What I was thinking however was that Simulated Universe is just Hoyoverse making Genshin's Labyrinth Warriors event into an endgame content
nothing shocked me more than seeing seele at the camp while i was doing a quest deep in the underground. I had no idea the characters could be out in the wild like this.
Same reaction I had to seeing Pela in Bronya's office and Gepard at the silvermane guard camp
me when I was farming materials for Sampo Bosski and then JUMPSCARE, Sampo was right there
no fr i thought it was an another quest I had to do but no she's just chilling and same with Gepard if you go to the restricted zone
@@hey7492 SAMPO BOSSKI LMAOO
(it's also funny because in my language "boski" means "godly" so it's godly Sampo)
@@nathho it's intended, 100%.
Sampo is supposed to be Slavic and he even calls himself bosski sampo, which literally translates into godly sampo in finnish😂
The dialogue options are gold in this game, i remember one of the robots praised the trailblazers fighting skills and one of the options was “i only have 2 skills” like😭😭😭
And when you refuse to help Seele in the mines (When March 7th gives the hilarious expression)
And then it continues to "and after that I gacha-ed lots" or something 😭 😭
HSR shows how many chests there are in a map (not including chests from solving puzzles and elite mobs) and the area is typically narrow, so it is much easier to get 100% of what is the equivalence of the exploration percentage in Genshin.
i always found it funny that genshin is lying to you when it says a region is 100% explored. like i get the logic behind it but its still not true lmao
@@eminala7380 it's so annoying, u can never really tell if it's actually 100% or not
One of the best things about grinding is the weekly boss is guaranteed to drop what you need since you only need one thing from them (for the talents) and an added bonus is just the relic drops
That's their downside. Because the area was totally landlocked and you just hunt chest for a minute then the area is complete 😢
and those common chests gives you 10 jades meanwhile in genshin you get 2 primo 💀✌
Design-wise, Star Rail MCs are definitely more cookie cutter and more self-insert-able than Lumine or Aether, BUT oh my, I wholeheartedly agree with the statement about the interactions. They are such GEMS. The sassy option. The "hero" option. The WTF option. Oh, so heckin' great.
somehow overall star rail characters' design im way comfortable with than genshin that is somewhat more lustful and sexual inducing for me.
genshin characters have big heads compared to their body
@@kison7715dk about you, but phantilia sexually induces me alot😂
/s
Stelle looking like a stereotypical delinquent girl, down to the baseball bat is pretty fantastic tho
imo one of the best things HSR did was the daily messages you get from random characters, not only you get to see these characters in--game you also get to know them more from these messages, they range very much and shows how colorful the personality of the characters are, be it Pela geeking out or Hook asking you books to read. the response you can give as MC also paints more colors for both characters
Sad we never got a message from Tingyun
I like how having a crew on the astral express also makes for interesting character interactions and character developments that don’t necessarily involve the MC.
Like at the start of the game March and Dan Hung have their own thing going. Just because they found you they don’t suddenly stop talking to each other and their entire world only revolves around you. I like how both march and dan hung have their own baggage they carry.
I also loved that cutscene where Himeko convinces dan to go down to the Lofu to help out and face his past. It’s moments like those that really make a game great.
As oppose to Genshin where everyone just fonds over the traveler, the MC never speaks a single word (the trailblazer has talked more in 2 story quest than Aether has in 2 years), and your only main source of interaction is a flying nag with a voice i can only compare to nails clawing down on a chalkboard.
And ppl get mad when others call out Paimon for ruining the story because she literally does
@@softjytsu not only is she annoying she takes up ALL of the interactions. She never shuts up.
am I the only one here who just doesn't mind paimon at all?(Also I don't really get how "everyone" fonds over the traveler when most are just neutral until we like help them)
@@rolo9115 me actually! I love paimon and to me the problem is we don’t vocal hear the Mc since paimon and traveler banter is actually pretty cool
@@rolo9115 to be fair I don’t hate paimon, in fact a lot of her interactions with other characters (like itto) have the funniest dialogue, but when her voice is all you hear all the time it tends to get irritating. I remembered her voice at the start of the game. It wasn’t squeaky or so high pitched it felt natural. I don’t understand why they had to make it what it is today.
small but interesting detail: when you try to take a photo of your character in genshin, you need to wait for the idle animation that you want to film. but in hsr you easily can change idle animation right away to take a photo a lot easier. you just can choose a pose for a photo! its a small detail but for me it really shows how hsr shows a lot more dedication for such small things that makes your experience a lot nicer.
and it’s really sad for me that genshin aint gonna improve bevause honkai just the favorite child and if you like genshin more, hoyoverse doesn’t really care about you and you can really FEEL it when you play genshin
Therss that but at the same time you cant really idle anywhere you want so the pictures arent so nice imo
I think the camera option is slightly worse though, it's very slippery and less free.
Just wish they'd add the stances from Genshin's photo mode though. Most pictures of characters are just their idle animations now. Why can't we have both?
13:21
This has always made me so sad that the Traveler's personality is something you need to find instead of something they give you
I love the traveler so much and their voice lines with Paimon can be so gold, I don't understand why they don't give us some of those voicelines and just put them as little cutscenes in the middle of the Archon quests or something like that
It's as if you ask your friend for a book and they tell you they have it, but instead of them just handing the book to you, they instead tell you where the book is located at in the library
I think both can work, in Genshin the traveler is clearly hiding massive lore spoilers from everyone (players included), which does detract from the gameplay but is necessary for suspense and mystery. Star rail's amnesia is a good solution for it as it allows more options, but less theory-crafting.
@@thunderspark1536 Oh 100% since we basically know nothing about the traveler before they were in Teyvat, heck before the game starts actually cause we don't know what happened when the traveler woke up and what the heck they were doing with Paimon before the game starts (Paimon and the Traveler met 2 months before the game starts)
However, even with all the secret lore the traveler is keeping that doesn't mean we can't like know what the travelers basic personality is like, most people find the Abyss sibling more interesting cause 1. Suspense and 2. They actually have some what of a personality but the traveler? We know nothing about how they're like on screen, in voice lines we get an idea on how the traveler is like while also getting lil crums of the Traveler's relationship with their sibling (Ex: in a voice line the traveler mentions how 2 characters (I forgot who they were) reminded him of a sibling like relationship where the older sibling tells the younger sibling to do something since they're older they're incharge, which is where we learn that since the traveler and their sibling are twins, the Traveler and their sibling used to play Rock, paper, scissors to figure out who would do stuff none of them wanted to do) It's very little but we learn something about the travelers past and their relationship with their sibling (which keep in mind, the whole reason the plot of the game exist is cause we wanna find out what happened with our sibling)
@@nairobicataluna Indeed. I wouldn't call either worse, Genshin is clearly more of a grand fantansy story while star rail is a fun galaxy romp. Not to say star rail isn't horrifically dark at times (like all mihoyo properties are), but the oppressive rule of the sustainer always being able to murder everyone you know isn't present as much.
In star rail, sure you got the antimatter legion but you have those who can stand up to them, and the stellarons are more forces of nature than deadly threats to the larger societies.
Both travelers fit their stories best, a mysterious being with godlike powers in genshin and a far more normal person for star rail that was thrust into this situation (with a bomb in their chest).
i think the class system makes team building a LOT more engaging. HSR presents situations where you will indeed need a healer, tank, or utility focused support!! the way each class feels unique and useful is a stark contrast to genshin where no class really matters besides DPS and supports that improve your DPS! HSR wont have the problem genshin has where tank based characters like dehya and noelle wont be useless if they cant provide big damage.
Yep. Dehya is in the wrong game because genshin combat NEVER focused on utility but rather damage damage damage...
@@anyaaa2801 Yeah. The moment I saw her kit, it screams being in a class based RPG with multiple characters out instead of Genshin's one on-field character at a time.
But it also means you NEED to build more and if you want the same powerlevel pay more
@@imo098765 HSR is without doubt, more brutal when it comes to grinding. The challenge it offers are way harder than genshin, and theres no such thing as "national team" like in genshin that you can just use them anywhere and it will wipe out everything. But, they got auto farm, so yeah, you can start the run while doing something else. So despite you need to grind more, you dont really need to stare at the game repeated grind as much as genshin.
@@anyaaa2801 Dehya's the prime example of HSR roles being far superior than genshin's case by case basis; cuz she's an awkward mix of support and DPS and thus does neither role good; it's kinda the same thing with Yae Miko as well with her being a clunkier version of Fischl, but there's evidence to suggest she was at one point in development meant to be a main DPS as like a mix between Fischl and Lisa doing NAs and stuff whilst having her turrets being supplementary DMG alongside
probably just Star rail being in the early phase but Genshin's main problem for me is how damage is literally the only important thing where shielders and healers value is lower if they can't support your damage output
and the fact that how Genshin makes "harder" content is just making enemies damage sponges especially in abyss
at least how shielders and healers in star rail have more utility during the paced gameplay
With a turn based game where the enemies will hit you back, there is no way around healers/shielders. In Genshin, you can or dodge your way through
@nhaan4178 exactly but they could have designed the game system to allow more gameplay expression other than just damage oriented,
Eg: make damage more balanced for characters and make enemies deal damage to us where we have to counter it through actual shielding and healing rather than just bursting the enemy before it can do anythihg
*abyss heralds waves their hand menacingly*
@theysaidimasian9766 i guess that's a valid counter point but man, icd is a weird gameplay mechanic
Rip hydro herald though, Ayaka just dancing around them
@@Xephyranth dendro characters also shred their hydro shields like paper. My Tighnari enjoys the hydro chambers so much
As someone who has played a lot of Genshin Impact and Honkai Impact 3rd before HSR was released (AR60 and Lvl88 respectively), it’s super interesting to see what elements from Genshin and HI3 were brought over to Star Rail. Playing the Simulated Universe was like Elysian Realm from HI3, but without the flamechasers haha. Interested to see what HYV does with their games going forward.
Technically the aeons and herta are the flamechasers of SU
This is to be expected.
Games are at their easiest to change while they are still unreleased and in their development phase. This is because even if Design has improved ideas, the Technical department will greatly struggle to implement these changes because there's a high chance a code change can create unintentional bugs elsewhere. Some of Star Rail's improvements may make their way back into Genshin, but these will require more time and effort to implement due to Genshin already being in live service.
Star Rail's development starting after Genshin means Star Rail's design team can see everything Genshin does well and does poorly, and plan around them accordingly. And since the game is in development, the tech side can afford to scrap and reprogram things without any fear of screwing up player accounts, letting them better implement and create systems which the Genshin design team just never thought they'd need.
An example of such was lip syncing to multiple languages. Genshin had this in early content, but was dropped later, implying that it was manually "hard coded" painstakingly, and the game was not initially designed with a system to automate this during its development phase. This is too painstaking and time consuming to do manually, so it was ditched afterward. Star Rail's development team, seeing Genshin team's issue, was able to design and implement an automated system for itself as a result.
This also reflects in the UI. Genshin completely ditched Honkai Impact 3rd's UI, which was an absolute visual clusterf-, and created a cleaner and more presentable one. Star Rail, seeing this success, subsequently kept Genshin's UI as a base and improved upon it for itself.
This will happen again in future. Just as Genshin's systems was a huge step up over Honkai Impact's, Star Rail's systems are a step up over Genshin's, and ZZZ's systems will eventually be a step up over Star Rail's.
It's just the same cycle as usually, when new game released people floundered the improvements from previous games but as time goes by they stopped playing it because of reasons. I heard that Honkai Impact will have a engine overhaul of sorts by getting a new updated code of the Unity engine for HI3, the game was released back in 2016 and the story will continue after Kiana's saga is completed not sure if Genshin Impact will last very long or have a sequel since it's their second new IP but we'll wait and see
I love this. Absolute best explanation for everything regarding development and coding, especially regarding lip syncs. Too bad this is not a higher-rated comment because there's definitely a lot to be learned from this.
Honkai Star Rail's visual UI wasn't bad at all. The game was intended for the same kind of people that plug away at rhythm games and league, namely, people very good at pushing lots of buttons in the correct sequences. It's not a casual pleb romp like Genshin is, and shouldn't be compared. Case in point, Honkai Impact actually has an endgame.
@@kagakai7729 All that and you didn't deny that it's ugly, just serviceable.
@@salceds beauty, especially in matters relating to design, is highly subjective. The most I could possibly say is that the majority of Honkai Impact's intended audience literally _want_ a UI that looks like that.
The thing i like the most about hsr compared to genshin is that i can actually use all my characters in combat instead of fast swapping everything, i really missed that.
Svarog is the only playable character with giant/gigachad model in all of Hoyoverse’s games. I’m cautiously optimistic how Varka/Capitano is going to look like ingame
theyve made it seem like varka is going to be a gigachad of a person, but i wouldnt be surprised they pulled an itto and made them buff noodle arm bois :')
@@theysaidimasian9766 this is exactly what I’m afraid of lol
If varka is another thin ass tall male i'll jump off a cliff
@@randomperson093 Hell I don’t even need Paimon to guide me jumping off the cliff. I would straight up not touching the game again unless they implemented QoL and big changes
Also another huge improvement is how Light Cone banner works. In Genshin getting desired 5* weapon can take up to 240 pulls while in HSR up to 160 pulls, so 80 pulls less which is huge.
Also there are just a LOT of good general use light cones to use for characters. Have seele but not her light cone? Use the free light cone you get from Simulated Universe. Seriously, it's just so good.
That’s only cause we don’t got double banners yet. When we do get double banners, it’ll go back to being 240 wishes
@@Avghistorian77 Maybe it won't, they could just make 2 Light Cone banners just like they make 2 character banners.
lets not forget the RATES
the rate for a upped light cone is so much better then genshins bullshit system
a light cone has a whopping ***75% chance*** up then the default one genshin has
@@mateuszkulis3535 I highly doubt it.
I wish genshin had a team that travelled with mc. Imagine if kazuha and Wander came with us on our journey
that would be cool but the genshin mc is a self-insert character so it wouldn't really work :(
@@toezie_wozies that technically isn’t the case seeing they have their own lore they aren’t taking us as a player and aren’t just gnederbends of each other but siblings
One overlooked thing that is super important.
In HSR, every character feels like they have a use. They are all good. And you need different ones for different situations. Unlike with genshin what you said, you could brute-force a lot of the combat.
This means that as for now, that you'll keep using your old characters, and not put old 5 stars and 4 stars on the pile of old and forgotten which happens a lot in Genshin and a little bit in HI3.
Investing in characters doesn't feel like a waste, it doesnt feel like in 6 weeks your built-character will be replaced and useless.
So we end up spending a lot more time with all characters, old ones too.
Imagine if Amber still had a use ^^
It helps with forming a bond with characters.
And that bond is something HYV is very good at.
Especially now Acheron is out, you can pretty much speed-run through SU due to her technique insta-killing any enemy which isn't a boss (Pity you only have 5 Technique Points, but... meh)
@@fierytigergaming8112 can always use food to replenish her TP.
I love that if you finish the character quest in hsr they can visit the train also if you talk to them they give you free star jade
I let my resin capped for 2 days now and I just realised it. That's how burned out I am from Genshin. Even though I wasn't interested in HSR combat system initially, it is now the main reason I play it. I love how it emphasises team building much more than Genshin. Also I can't wait to get Dan Heng E6 purely for the art
🤨📸
@@anshnanavati I'm an art enthusiast you see
2 days? I've been letting my resin cap for like 3 weeks😭
@@migueltorosalinas5815 3 weeks? Ive been letting it capped since february last year
Since last February? I've been letting my resin cap since release
Personally I really appreciated how HSR had way less requirements in graphics. That's mostly down to it being less open world but it also means my laptop doesnt burn up as fast because of graphics load. Ultimates also all look really cool, even the 4* ones. The autobattle though is pretty nice especially for farming material in calyces is pretty helpful since it means you can kick back and relax. Then you can pick which battles you think you need yourself to strategize on especially for bosses. Outside of what was mentioned I also like that you can spend some materials to get completely different ones, and that applies for alot of boss drops. If only we can get specter materials in exchange for hillichurl masks...
Simulated Universe is also pretty fun to do with the different buffs you can get. It's makes it so that every fight can feel different and strategies can vary depending on the buffs you are presented. Man it just feels like there's so many quality of life and convenience improvements people wish to be in Genshin but instead get put in HSR. The MC also has more personality, finally we can actually materialize our thoughts on disliking on certain NPCs' acts and ideas.
I've probably been more hooked to HSR now than Genshin when looking at how enjoyed I am in my first few weeks of playing both games, and abusing Seele's extra turn buffs to do up to 6 continuous turns with her in calyces is icing on the cake.
Auto Battle: “This enemy with 1 HP needs an Ult slapped on it. Gotta make sure it dies.”
The main character and dialogues is what i grown to love a lot. Reminds me in that way of persona. If only genshin was the same, without paimon
It's the little things. I love when a game requires strategy but it's not so overbearing. With the buffs in Simulated universe, you could use the same team 7 times but if you choose a different path each time, each 7 experiences will all be unique and different, and you'll rarely have to change your team dynamic as long as they can survive and deal damage.
Traveler: [ muteness, emergency food, master chef ]
Trailblazer: TRAAAAAAASH KIIIIIIIIIING
Fun fact: This game can Rickroll you. I wish I was joking but I'm not
The first thing I noticed in HSR is I have a voice?! I have a personality?! I make dad jokes?! And i truly loved it, I wish they noticed how awesome in every way is the party banter, like in Dragon Age series when you can walk from one point to another listening to your party members interact with you and between eachother and it's the most marvelous thing, specially when the MC freaking talks back actually talks!! And I totally agree paimon should be yeeted once and for all, that crappy floating baby should not be a thing ever again. Also one can get to cherish mascots more when they don't speak for you, and when they don't follow you forever interjecting in every way shape or form in dialogues or events. Pompom is perfect because if you like him just go visit hom and talk for a while, done, perfect, awesome also his personality doesn't suck like paiblehmon
Yep, or have party conversation in the Astral Express - would be funny seeing Himeko trying not to murder Kafka, or Asta talking with Arlan
my favourite improvement is that characters msg you everyday. it makes it feel like we're actually friends
One more fun thing, aside from having more interaction and facial expressions from the main character, we see them interact with trash cans :))
i feel more motivated to build characters in star rail since the bosses dont have a respawn timer, i never realized how much that bothered me in genshin until i played a game that doesnt have something like that.
As someone who plays games pretty much exclusively on mobile (and use the touch screen vs a backbone/attached controller) I can confidently say it just takes practice to get good at using touchscreen controls. In GI I never have any issues with rotations or even facing and have cleared the hardest level of the Abyss since a couple of months after I started playing. I also play PGR (also using the touchscreen) and have cleared all of its high end/end game bosses as well (and I think everyone can agree that in terms of difficulty PGR is one of, if not THE, hardest action combat games on mobile).
I originally started GI at launch but stopped playing due to the touch controls so to those unfamiliar with them it can be daunting. But, like I said, once you get used to them and after some practice touch screen controls are perfectly fine imo
definitely agree, mobile might be a bit clunkier at some points but its not unworkable, dragonstriking on mobile was one of the most entertaining experiences ive ever had
It's probably harder for those of us used to controller. Star Rail is fine on mobile aside from a few accidental button presses when trying to rotate the camera. In Genshin I can barely do my daily commissions on mobile and it takes 10x longer than on PS5. Serious props if you can 36* abyss like that.
One thing I like about Star Rail is the unique weapons. Genshin's static weapon classes kind of limits what they can do there, and while that is getting better (e.g. Heizou and Wriothesley being fist fighters in the Catalyst class) I doubt we'll ever see, for example, a scythe wielder in Genshin since you can't really fit that into any of the current classes.
To me HSR fixed the biggest genshin issue : characters. Better dialogues, better presence in the universe, better connection with them etc... Globally it's simply better when it's about character from a story perspective, and good god it's such a pleasure to have presence from the main character (in the same time, it would have been a waste to have Yui Ishikawa not having a single line)
Vars starting a war against all keqing mains rn 💀 with that thumbnail
Keqing is good compared to other c0 5 stars now but as soon as they get a few constellations then Keqing falls off like a brick no matter what her constellation is. c0 Raiden vs c0 Keqing is pretty close but c2 Raiden vs c6 Keqing is not even close.
@@AzureDrag0n1 i mean ye she is the best starter rn and my fav starter but she can't compete with new dps, baal is more of a support support character. It's absurd that a support does more damage than a DPS. Comparing her to new a dps like alhaitham she falls off. But she still the best fake cat girl for me.
Yea against all 3 of them
Adding to the mobile friendly aspect, my phone seems to be less prone to heating up playing HSR. It might be due to Genshin being open world, since being open world means the game has to sacrifice precious resources just to load background objects. I think this is something Hoyoverse learned from both Genshin and Honkai Impact 3rd, since the open world mechanics probably came from HI3's Open World, which also has optimization issues (especially noticeable in Schicksal and APHO2) and HSR's map system probably took inspiration from HI3's story quests.
Another thing to note of with HSR being friendly to mobile users is that HSR doesn’t microwave your phone from the inside out like Genshin Impact. Even with a relatively new phone, Genshin is simply too taxing to play on mobile. Not to mention that HSR takes up half the amount of storage that Genshin Impact does.
Oddly my iPhone SE 2 heats up more with Star Rail than Genshin (using the low graphics preset for both).
People who play both daily are actually insane. I think I'd go crazy with _TWO_ daily games. I'd never get to fully enjoy amazing side games like Bloodborne, Judgment, BOTW, Monster Hunter, and so on. You'd have to be super casual (AKA: you skip resin, daily coms, events, etc) to enjoy both for the long term.
Yeah I play both HSR and Genshin, and I’ll admit that is my whole home screen entertainment time budget (as in I don’t even watch 22+ minute TV / anime episodes and haven’t watched a movie in 6 months).
@@studiesinflux1304 I'd hate that, I need to feel like I'm completing something... current it's Ashita no Joe (1970's boxing anime) + Judgment (Yakuza spin-off) + Genshin.
One of the things I like that they put into Star Rail is that they tell you how many treasure chests there are on the map. I know that this would be against the point of Genshin (being that it is an exploration game) but I still like knowing that I've collected everything.
and they show you the location to all of the puzzles
My favorites part is the dailies, In genshin it takes way too long for some of them, hsr actually feels like dailies and only takes a couple of minutes, I also heard the exp increases with level at every equilibrium.
they need to just drop the commissions where you have to talk to someone.
There is also another QOL update about HSR is the relic system strong box where you can select the piece you want not some random piece although it takes more exp, it much better than doing over and over again until you get the right piece with the right sub stats. This only gets better as you reach higher EQ level in HSR. One downside to all this is that the game it incredibly resource hungry. You burn through your resources really fast like credits, ascension mats, exp, etc.
In genshin the traveler is a quiet personality-less character so they get shipped with everyone while the trailblazer has a fun degen personality and gets shipped with trash cans
One thing that makes hsr better is the fact that you hear the trailblazer's actual voice quite often in companion/trailblazer missions, genshin couldve easily had that instead of giving us 2 voicelines in the ENTIRE story of the game
While I do still enjoy Genshin a lot, I always have prefered turn based RPG's so Star Rail is right up my alley, the pure chaotic energy of all the characters and the quality of life things like actually being able to choose the piece I want to make just make it even better
Star Rail has MC who actually bonks the enemies hard.
Not all things about the characters you get is good, they only give you 1 healer, but you need two (or a strong party shielder like Gepard) to progress in Memory of Chaos, so either you roll Bailu or Gepard, or you simply can't progress beyond a certain point. Not to mention that since this is a game of match the characters, if you don't have certain elements or characters of that element built, you will struggle a lot. In Genshin, you can use 1 team for 99% of the content, not so in SR where you need to spread out investments a lot more.
Also the relic system is actually worse than Genshin's artifact system. No off-set pieces, 6 pieces instead of 5, 4 pieces with random main stat instead of 3. No, being able to craft 1 single relic with the desired main stat per patch is not going to provide QoL since you can't select the sub stats it will get.
Yeah, I can get from a "I want to try different things and feel like every character matters" perspective, Genshin's character system can be underwhelming, but there's currently some parts of the game where I'm just struggling because I don't have certain characters. Just feels like I'm being punished for not having good enough luck for 4 stars / not pulling as much rn due to wanting to save. And it's not like the really challenging end game content - it's literally stuff like the Crimson Calyxes where I could be on death's door or dead mid-run because I don't have a preferred element to the Stagnant Shadows being a whole Avengers Level Threat for the same reason. I have a lot of Ice characters right now, but zero Imaginary, one Quantum, and one Lightning; and even then Qingque and Serval are more tailored to waves of smaller enemies and not big bosses like Stagnant Shadows, so even with elemental advantage I'm struggling. Meanwhile, in Genshin, the "endless solutions to the same problem" approach means I can typically get past an obstacle regardless of who I have and don't have.
Part of the problem is that HSR just started and its system will get better as the rooster is fleshed out, but I can totally see this going sour as some Limited characters become "Must Haves" just to progress certain sections of the game and the struggle to get gacha-locked 4 stars gets worse. Which, yeah some Genshin characters are seen as more viable gameplay wise than others, but it still feels like the gameplay gives wriggle room for player's character preference (character here as in "non-gameplay aspects"). I don't care how easier some of the grind would be with a Quantum-The Hunt character or *any* sort of Imaginary character, I *don't* want Seele and I *won't* be using my 300 standard pity on Welts, and yet it feels like the game is trying to punish me for those choices.
*EDIT:* Actually, coming back to add that there's still a little bit more about HSR's character system. Currently we have no 4 star Imaginary characters, so either you'll have to pull for Luofu or Yukong when they come, get lucky enough to get Welts (which, luck would still be involved for 4 star Imaginary, but at least you get 4 stars more often than 5 stars), or use the 300 standard pity for him. Then, there's the fact that Jing Yuan is already going to be overlapping with Serval's combination - Lightning-Erudition. Now, I think having both a 4 star and a 5 star for every possible combination is a good goal for HSR to eventually have, so that even if you're not going to go for certain 5 stars, there's still a chance you'll get a 4 star that'll work just as well. But to have the second limited 5 star already overlap with a 4 star (and especially one we get for free) is I think too soon, especially since there's already enough combinations we need rn, like a Lightning-The Hunt for instance (which I think would've suited Jing Yuan better personally). Still would have the issue of some limiteds feeling like "Must Haves", but it at least alleviates the limited roster until we start seeing more overlapping new characters later down the line.
While having only one free healer is indeed odd, you can alternatively run Fire MC and March together. If necessary, March can perma-shield the whole team with her A4 trace while MC fuels her skill points.
Another possible downside to the relics would be, that you have to spend 40 stamina for just one 5* piece instead of getting two like in Genshin. At least that's on Equilibrium Level 3, dunno if that can change later on...
Yet, I think it's a bit too early to judge... As far as I can see, you don't need good substats to clear stuff.
Heck, there are people, who just completed Memories of Chaos. That should actually be nigh impossible, because no one has reached max Equilibrium level yet. Everything more than 10 levels above you gets artificially harder to kill, but some people have somehow managed to do it, super underleveled and with shit relics. 😂
As far as I'm experiencing most of the population hasn't even reached memory of chaos yet.
The people who are already trying Memory of chaos are very lucky Day 1 players or whales
The current team comps do not use 2 healers, they only use 1 and a support that provides utility such as bronya, asta, etc.
It seems to me too early to use the conditions of memory of chaos, a content that only the most dedicated players or whales are trying. Some aren't even trying because it seems to be content for the next few months, not the first month, we still on need of a lot of the minmax expected for such content
@@JanTGTX March and FMC are not enough to deal with the damage at higher floors of MoC.
@@koroxo1152 Every MoC team generally has a tank and a healer. If you don't have Bailu or Gepard you aren't getting past MoC5, let alone get to 10.
The beginner banner, while it goes up to 50 pulls instead of 20 in genshin, you are guaranteed to get 1 5* from it
No Paimon
Our main Character is just...precious ^^
and we're also taller than genshin
5 Reasons why Star Rail is better than Genshin:
1. Serval
2. see above.
3. see above.
4. see above.
5. see above.
You can tell the lessons Hoyo have learnt from HI3 and Genshin. Trailblazer feels so bad ass, both types, even with a bat 😂 I love the humour in the game so far and I didn't think I'd use autoplay, but for material grinding it's helpful. Genshin became such a choir in that aspect
great content! I love to see the comparison between my two favorite games
The fact that they did it in star rail means they know what is lacking in genshin, but I still get the feeling that we are never going to get an improvement on this stuff for genshin. Mihoyo doesnt like to change things, only add new stuff.
FFXV menu music in the background is a blessing
I really like that in HSR the enemies from the simulated universe drop their materials, I wish it would work like that in Spiral Abyss
I think the biggest self-own is the fact that although HYV has 'explicitly' said no to end-game focused on combat, and gear more towards casual game play / world building / characters that players love, HSR simply fleshes out their respective characters way better and more frequently (ie. text system) vs. Genshin's characters; for crying out loud only a handful of characters have 2 quests allocated towards them (Yoimiya being the latest 1 which is an improvement.
something i love about hsr is the wepon system making it just like the normal banner but better was a briliant idea its should not take my close to double the wishes that i spent in a character just to get their wepon sig weapons are no longer a luxury only obtained if you have money but something considering if you truly like that character and want to give them whats best for them
Dan Heng somewhat becomes Seele at E4 meanwhile Kaeya dreams he could be a budget Ayaka at c4. And March 7 has an actual spot on a team with Clara and is useful with Yanqing and Fire TB while Amber has no team synergy at all.
It would be nice if you tried out Honkai Impact 3rd. As someone who’s playing all three games, it’s very interesting how Hoyoverse has evolved their games overtime. Hi3rd feels like a typical gacha game, not in a bad way but it’s incredibly different compared to Hoyoverse’s newer installments. I’m not a game design nerd so I don’t really know what else to say but it would be interesting to dive in for a video :D
The biggest difference between Hi3 and genshin/hsr is that hi3's main experience is completely separated from the gacha. Because the story is focused on, well, the actual story, you're given story characters instead of having to roll to get the same experience.
I went into HSR not expecting much (not a huge fan of sci-fi) but I ended up absolutely loving the game because of all the goofy flavour text. The silly dialogue options, those extremely random events that give you the praise of high morals, it's all sooo funny and gives the game so much heart. Absolutely love that characters continue to interact with the trailblazer via the daily texts too. It's also nice for a change not to feel so alone when travelling in HSR.
Bruh they rlly making adding all the things that would help genshin into star rail 💀
I feel that most of the things that Star Rail are taken directly from Genshin and changed slightly. The artifact/relic system is pretty much a carbon copy except there are six pieces you need to worry about and there are substats that are different because the games have different combat mechanics.
From the top of my head, the things HSR does better is its resin system, getting a guaranteed 5 star from the beginning with just 40 wishes, and being able to use a friend's character.
*Video Starts and Music Plays* -> That's Crystalline Chill from ff15. What a masterpiece of an OST
you background music is the music when you select the menu on FFXV?
Of all the permanent 5* in Star rail, I feel like Gepard, Welt and bronya are going to be immortal
You forgot something IMPORTANT: we have multiple camera options for our characters. Eight faces from the get go. While genshin still has SIX and it's been TWO YEARS ALREADY.
Honestly, it feels like they took the feedback from genshin and implemented them in Star Rail. Smh.
Coming from Dissidia Opera Omnia, i wonder how different HSR would be if you bring friend units to any stage and they can replace any character in your team for 5 turns. That or call actions where each of your teammates can get one "rental action" from a unit not on your. i.e. Fire TB can rent Natasha's heal once per battle or Dan Heng can rent an instance Pela's def down/debuff.
I'm love open world games a lot, which is what drew me to Genshin in the first place, so I was super dubious about Star Rail as I thought the closed world would be really limiting. Although I definitely would prefer it if it had a massive open world, not only do I not think that actually fits the structure of the game, I also think it makes up for it in so many other ways that I don't really care about the limited movement. Plus, there are so many weird little things hyv have hidden to interact with. Like I spent too long going around Belobog and interacting with every single bin and dumpster possible because it was so weird, whoever writes the dialogue needs a raise
having a rouge-like game mode is actually huge and I still don't understand why genshin is stuborn in only having abyss as endgame. Once you get characters that are good enough to 3 star abyss you just don't have any push back anymore. I'm afraid that it might turn out like that for star rail's endgame aswell, but having content centered around long battles with a lot of variables and a mode centered around clearing stuff fast is sure to be more secure for a decent endgame
I love the MC, they’re SO FUNNY sometimes. Tbh all the characters are super endearing
11:56 could someone explain how to see the characters at any time ? I thought you had to wait for them to visit
On the point of how fantastic the Star rail MC is: apparently theirs a little interaction you can do with the moles, where you play hide and seek, while your hiding, they say their going to leave, and you have an option to keep hiding in your spot in case their trying to trick you into showing yourself. If you pick this option, you wake up in Natasha’s clinic because MC kept hiding there for 3 days straight and almost starved to death
We need an event in Genshin where MC shows a level in interest in trash cans
hsr devs have a sense of humour that genshin devs don't
the interactions are soo good
I love the little easter eggs and I love how mean we can be!
No idea if it is just me, but it is the most satisfying thing ever getting the respective cards (lightcones) of my characters. It is like completing a collection
I play only on mobile for genshin and tbh I cant imagine trying to remember all those buttons/keys on a controller or keyboard after playing for like 2 years using only my thumbs. 😂 Too many buttons for my simple self.
The one thing I'll give you is the fact I can't use 2 inputs at a time, so I unfortunately havent figured out a way to dragonstrike yet. Hopefully someone will find a way.
Honestly I agree with everything besides 1 things : phone player experience being worse for genshin. Even if I will agree with the fact it can be hard to target with a bow character, it isn’t something you have to do often. + most bow characters don’t really use their targeting option (venti tartaglia yoimiya fischl diona Yelan etc etc). You just have to be used to it as myself that struggle to play genshin on pc. Your point would have been better if you were talking about phone storage that is a real big problem but… 10GO for hsr too x)
Even if genshin is my first true love between the two, I have to admit that hsr surpass it from very far away with the quality of life adjustments and dialogs. Genshin has a very high quality in term of story (the lore is insane) but man…. The dialogues ruin it all. Pretty sure if they were using more simple and dynamic dialogues no one would complain as much as the fandom does rn. But yeah, even if a story is godly, if you have to dig into artifacts or watch videos that explains you to understand it, then it is bad writing…
Good video
13:30 i can't believe you left out the best part of the trailblazer: the unbelievable DRIP
After a few months, the one thing i enjoy the most about starrail is the fact that dailys dont take long.
In genshin it can take a while to do the 4 daily quests for the summon currency and using/converting resin.
In hsr you only have 1 daily mission and most of the time you dont need to do it to get all the points to get the daily summon currency. 'Condensing your resin' in hsr also does not cost any additonal item, and you can hold 8 of them instead of 5.
Combined with the auto battle function, hsr is just much more casual friendly.
I think i need ~ 20-30 minutes daily for genshin, while i need only 10-20 minutes in hsr, and most of that time is autobattling, during that time i can do other things like make my breakfast.
I often feel like i enjoy thinking about daily hsr stuff more than daily genshin stuff, which feels like a drag and i often just ignore on busy days.
What I personally like about Star Rail is that the combat system is less about a single character but rather the entire team and utility units like healers are valued.
I would like to believe that HSR is a beta test for quality of life improvements they made before actually putting it in for Genshin but all i can do is cope
praying that's true
Unironically, they made so much little silly secondary stuff that I spent more time doing secondary stuff than continuing the main story, my favorate reference is in the data bank in the elation aeon section, "masked fools" I think it's called, I suggest to read it
13:32 the third dialogue reminds me of smoky's death scene from high and low
That is one thing I like Honkai Star Rail so far over Genshin is that any and every character so far in Honkai Star Rail has been very useful in one way or another.
yeah at least physical is good in Star Rail compared to the crap than Genshin does to Eula
@@NeverClimbing Thats true.
As I've commented many times before, please try Honkai Impact 3. It'll be an eye-opener for you in terms of hoyo's game design. Also if you're wondering why Simulated Universe is so good in SR, it's because it's taken straight out of Honkai Impact 3.
"Hoyo game design" aka as "pull this new character to clear this boss efficiently, oh, you mean you don't have enough to pull for stigmata and weapon? Woops, me forgot to tell you that the character is actually useless without it"
But also, SU is good coz it's rogue like that actually feels like a rogue like instead of an absolute abomination that honkai had.
@@kiuhh1118 HI3 isn't without its issues, and signature weapons are definitely one of them. But in terms of QoL features and game mechanics, generosity of rewards and paid content, and endgame content, HI3 is literally years ahead of the other games. It's reasonable to expect lessons learnt during HI3's development to reflect in later projects. Unfortunately they don't even in the slightest.
@@davidnguyen3469 , since when is honkai generous, pgr shits on them and pgr has an endgame that is not 3 abyss modes with an idea that you need to kill something as fast as possible. Hi3 is a prime example on why people think mobile games suck, the only difficulty is the tamer, enemies can't kill you since you literally have infinite dodge and for some reason a time slow on perfect dodge, which is completely overdone considering you once again, have infinite stamina. It doesn't help that a lot of newer valks just straight up activite it without even a need to dodge perfectly. Hi3 killed itself a long time ago with consistent powercreep starting from hov and unfun mechanics. Imagine if the next boss in genshin will just fly all the time and you can only hit using ranged attacks and next character is a ranged character, that is what honkai is.
@@kiuhh1118 I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but once again I'm proven to be naive to think I'm talking to someone who's not an actual 12 year old or of equal mental age.
On a video comparing two hoyo games on a comment comparing how they do things in their third game, you want to argue against me by saying PGR, a game by an entirely different studio, is more generous? HI3 gives out every A rank character for free on release. All A rank characters are farmable. There's S rank characters and gear farmable too, and they occasionally give them out for free as well. Stamina (resin) is a non-issue. There's no BS 50/50 on gacha. An actually good battle pass content, spending events for ingame currency, and physical merch giveaways. Maybe PGR has it even better, but I don't know, I've never played it. Because that's besided the damn point.
Prime example why mobile game suck? Both HI3 and GI were revolutionary when they came out. There wouldn't be PGR if there was no HI3. Not saying there wouldn't be a different game down the line, but PGR was the first to attempt to come even close to HI3. Which good for them, they did.
There certainly is power creep, but it's pretty damn well managed. Better than I've seen elsewhere. Case an point, Herrscher of Thunder is still the meta pick for lightning PSY party right now, even after years of updates.
Next time you start arguing with someone by chatting our of your ass, try picking someone who doesn't know shit. Or better yet, stop chatting out of your ass and actually think before you try making an argument.
12:01 correction, simulated universe is based on the elysian realm from honkai impact 3rd
I’m definitely having I can finally multi clear a domain even if it’s another game, actually finding the characters to talk to them and no paimon are indeed strong attractive elements for this game, i personally don’t mind going to restaurants for cooking or shops for crafting cause that’s the point of open world games but for limited exploration game like Star Rail it’s indeed refreshing.
Finally, defensive units shine. It's so damn refreshing.
Also, Simulated Universe is such a blast. It's beyond me why they don't implement something similar into Genshin...
anything pertaining to the honkai series is normally going to feel like so much love was put into it, and this is coming towards from a player of honkai impact, star rail, and genshin. i’m glad genshin players can consume honkai content without being too confused about its parenting game.
10:18
HOLY SHIT YES YES
I'd love that !
Also, if you die in a dungeon and your team wins (without you) you should respawn at your place of death. Not the entrance.
Like ... Come on
T_T
I love how when we farm
We immediately open the “start” menu. Because opening those gates is so many loading games
One thing Star Rail did worse than Genshin though: not be ready for consoles at launch. The whole reason I managed to get into Genshin from day one was because it was available for PS4 immediately. With Star Rail, we're waiting until who knows how long for the PS4/5 version; and until then, I'm stuck using either my potato laptop or my phone. FeelsBadMan
Yep. Waiting for playstation release unfortunately 💔.
Another major point in Star Rail's favor is that there is actually some degree of challenge. I have not completely lost a party in Genshin once, hell I don't even know what happens if you do. It's just too easy to heal characters and the damage enemy can cause even as someone who doesn't grind very much for my characters is usually irrelevant. But in HSR I've actually had party wipes.
The only challenge I've experienced in Genshin is sometimes being under-leveled and failing a timed challenge, which is hardly compelling or particularly enjoyable. Star Rail by comparison has had tough fights that made me actually think about my moves and team comp. It's not the deepest or hardest turn-based game out there but unlike Genshin I don't automatically breeze through all the content.
I hope in fontains release the characters will be walkin in the wild and something like simulated universe and the more domain runs
11:46 - 11:58 Very Impressive 😊😊 I always wanted to see the characters in the Overworld.