Worker Injured after VEHICLE - AIRCRAFT collision at Kahului Airport
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2023
- 30/NOV/2023
Hawaiian B717 performing flight to Honolulu had just pushed back from the gate when pilots began to taxi before the equipment and ground personnel were clear of the aircraft hitting a tug and injuring the ramp agent.
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Let's hope that ramp agent makes a speedy recovery and that things are done more carefully in the future. This could have been a complete disaster, and I think there is now lots of uncomfortable discussion to be had to prevent an incident like this from recurring. Thanks for the upload!
Indeed, exactly.
Accountability.
They are lucky it was a 717, of which there are fewer in operation each year, rather than a 737 or a 320. At least the 717 has rear mounted engines, so they only collided with the wing, rather than being sucked into a wing mounted engine
This was my first thought when I saw the collision photos. This had the potential to be very, very bad as opposed to merely very bad.
So the pilots started moving without receiving the hand signal.. Thats a big mistake.
Indeed.
The pilots need to see the pin with the remove before flight before moving. The captain is going to get into a lot of trouble for this.
Those pins are for the landing gear... they don't guarantee that their perimiter is clear. Could be the ground staff at fault too, we don't know yet.
@@aeternusdoleo4531 The Pin he is Referring to is the Steering Bypass Pin which is Held up to Indicate that it has been removed and that the Tug and Towbar has been Disconnected and out of the Way and the Aircraft is Clear to Taxi.
@@MADTASS The 717 keeps its bypass pin on the NLG rather than having a removeable one at the station. Although I do agree the flight crew should have waited for the salute.
doesn't matter if the pin is shown or not. they have to wait for the salute.
Every person’s input is needed to keep every person involved with the flight safe. It doesn’t take much of an error to result in an injury of another.
Get-there-itis happening before they even taxied out?
Probably.
@@NicolaW72 Yes.
Have you been alerted to a Piper Archer landing on a highway in Minnesota near Crystal Airport, KIMC, on Nov 28th? Plane impacted a car with minor injuries to car driver and none to the pilot.
Kahului may seem like an unsuspecting airport, but you can feel the tangible rush of everyone wanting to get to their next island or flight home. Get-there-itis is probably more tempting in Hawaii than almost anywhere else, even for pilots.
Especially for the interisland rote. I wonder if it was strictly Maui to Honolulu, or if it was a layover begfore going to Kauai. Weather could be a factor. Maui is getting the leading edge of a storm,. that has made things gloomy and a lot of rain for three days.
It's basically the LaGuardia of Hawaii with how busy it is.
Depends the time of day. During peak hours when you have neighbor island flights and mainland flights it gets busy, but dies down quickly where you can practice touch and gos.
Dang! Crazy....
Man, that could have been really bad. As in, worse than it already was.
glad the worker is ok ......I thought ground workers have to give the pilots ok before backing out ?
They had already pushed back
so its the ground workers fault then ? @@VASAviation
there is some time that is needed to clear the pushback stuf from around the aircraft
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@@JH-sf8tf No... the ground crew must give the pilots a hand signal to say ''all equipment and personnel is clear'' BEFORE the pilots can even start moving.. My guess is the pilots started moving before they got a hand signal.
the ground crew must give the pilots a hand signal to say ''all equipment and personnel is clear'' BEFORE the pilots can even start moving.. My guess is the pilots started moving before they got a hand signal.@@VASAviation
I wonder if Keoni was there with the ARFF...
Kimo took Keoni’s shift today.
Someone is in for a very bad afternoon.
Chief pilot will be chewing their asses for a week. I can see it though., those aircraft turn around fast. Not an excuse but there’s a reason why they unload out the back while loading in the front.
Get there itis?
There needs to be some sort of ability for aircraft to either be able to view the area directly in front of the aircraft or have better communication with ground personnel. I'm sure this is maybe a rare, but, not insolated incident.
Fuel spill, caught fire, couldve ended very differently.
Hmmm..........
What's the normal procedure before you can start moving? Do you need explicit clearance from the tower?
They received explicit clearance by Tower at 0:24
The better question is "What communication was there with the ground, and where did it break down?" After all, shouldn't ground personnel inform the plane they're clear before the pilots can taxi?
I think in addition to getting normal clearance from the tower to actually move, the pilots also communicate with the ground crew doing the pushback - both through radio (until the headset cable is disconnected) and then through hand signals to indicate the crew is clear of the aircraft and it's ready to move. I'm assuming in this case something was missed there...
@@tristanhuntington2473 some aircraft as the one I fly don't have the ability to plug in communications with marshallers so we only communicate with hand signals, though I'm sure the B717 has that option for the ground agent.
They need to see the pin from the nose gear held by one of the ground crew and acknowledge it via hand signal before they can move the aircraft regardless of what ATC says.
I would not be surprised if the rain contributed to a false signal being interpreted.
Released shortly after? I suppose they just bumped their head or something?
It's reported that he received serious injuries
Maui has one hospital and it’s pretty shit
A broken arm (for example) already counts as a serious injury but doesn't require a longer stay in a hospital.
Surprised he didn't get a "possible pilot deviation"! In all seriousness though, someone in the flight deck messed up here - I'm just really glad it didn't turn out to be a fatal mistake.
No point, FAA will be talking to them regardless as part of standard aviation incident procedure.
Is it not possible someone on the ground crew gave the pilots an incorrect or improper signal leading to the accident?
Looking at that wing damage, they are lucky that this incident happened on the ground, and not at cruising altitude.
I highly doubt there are ground workers and tugs up there.
@@VASAviationYou beat me to it! 🤣
@@VASAviation Maui Ground, Rescue 6 requesting altitude 5,000 to inspect possible birdstrike damage on the Hawaiian that just departed runway 2
@@VASAviationhard to say if it is a hedgehog ground worker, heard from Mentour Pilot that sometime ago there was a hedgehog-strike at 2,000🤣
Sounds like amateur hour
Why is it always America with these collisions or close collisions.
Because it's one of the only few places I can take audio from
@@VASAviationFair I didn't think of that
If we had Pakistan or South Africa coms it would be even crazier.
Often, in India, a ground worker gets sucked into a turbine. It may make international news, at other times it goes unreported. Lots of weird stuff goes on in the middle east and Asia that governments prevent the publication of.
Why didn't you show the blood in the graphics?
You searched for the wrong gore channel.
@@VASAviationThe hell is wrong with people?
@@logicplague IKR? That kind of thing is way too grisly, to begin with. We're lucky this did not end off tragically.
@@dukeofrodtown1705 IMHO it’s not that wanting to see what happened to the person is wrong, it’s the nerve of someone to expect to see the aftermath/complain on a YT channel that clearly doesn’t focus on that sort of stuff.
@@ifirekirby7498 Exactly
Pilots are unqualified to be flying any aircraft let alone a commercial aircraft!
How do you know that?
I’m sure your credentials checks out.
@@VASAviationHow dare you question some anonymous guy from the internet? He has spoken! 🤣😂