Indonesia’s $33B Capital Relocation Plan Is Imploding | WSJ Breaking Ground

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  • @wsj
    @wsj  5 месяцев назад +228

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    • @IPad-hv2nl
      @IPad-hv2nl 5 месяцев назад +11

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    • @kzugert
      @kzugert 5 месяцев назад

      HI, I'M INDONESIAN AND THIS PROJECT IS ONGOING AND THE PALACE, THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE IN THE SHAPED OF THE GARUDA BIRD, MINISTERS' HOUSES, STATE STAFF APARTMENTS, CEREMONIAL GROUND, PARK, RESERVOIR, ARTIFICIAL LAKE, HOSPITAL, HOTEL, EXHIBITION CENTER ARE ALL COMPLETED AND ENTERING THE FINISHING STAGE AND WILL BE USED ON AUGUST 17 TO COMMEMORATE INDONESIA'S INDEPENDENCE DAY CEREMONY. SO IN MY OPINION THIS VIDEO IS VERY BIASED AND CREATES A BAD NARRATIVE ABOUT THE NUSANTARA. SEVERAL LOCATIONS SUCH AS A FOOTBALL TRAINING CENTER, PLACE OF WORSHIP, MEMORIAL PARK, AIRPORT WILL ALSO BE TARGETTED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO THIS VIDEO IS FOOTAGE TAKEN 2 YEARS AGO.

    • @danielrusev1685
      @danielrusev1685 5 месяцев назад +10

      Seeing buzzerp (indonesian 50cent army) trying to deny that new capital city is failure in foreign media is such a comedy gold 😂😂. For outsider i like to tell you all that indonesian goverment is desperate to search for foreign investment and internal preasure
      is getting worse for the current goverment for this failure

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@IPad-hv2nl FREE SABAH SARAWAK

    • @TimurSajaa23
      @TimurSajaa23 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@IPad-hv2nl Haters 😂😂

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek 5 месяцев назад +4355

    33 billion for a city of 2.5 million is insanely cheap by some measures. For context - the World Cup stadium in Qatar costed 50+ billion and was basically only used for a week.

    • @agnostikisbetter1893
      @agnostikisbetter1893 5 месяцев назад +355

      @@Yusef-uh4wl forest city is private chinese project, so it’s different to ikn

    • @kaimargonar1000
      @kaimargonar1000 5 месяцев назад +534

      Thing is Qatar has lots of money. Indonesia on the other hand...

    • @Yusef-uh4wl
      @Yusef-uh4wl 5 месяцев назад +59

      @@agnostikisbetter1893 i know. Im talking about cost

    • @seanrafabagass
      @seanrafabagass 5 месяцев назад +256

      ​@@kaimargonar1000 well we don't use underpayed migrant workers so we don't have many choice

    • @kaimargonar1000
      @kaimargonar1000 5 месяцев назад +89

      @@seanrafabagass we have the choice not to build it anyway since they never asked the people for it. Only when deciding the name they did a contest. Looking at the developer invested on it, Im incline to think this just gonna be another BSD, PIK, Meikarta thing

  • @ianhomerpura8937
    @ianhomerpura8937 5 месяцев назад +2059

    0:48 Nusantara isn't in the middle of nowhere though. It's right smack in the middle of two major cities - Balikpapan and Samarinda. Basically they're building the start of a huge metropolitan area.

    • @MMM-hn2ul
      @MMM-hn2ul 5 месяцев назад +52

      @@ianhomerpura8937 so nusantara do have a small city from the start? Most people thought it’s just a village/ forest turn into a city lol

    • @ironmanjakarta8601
      @ironmanjakarta8601 5 месяцев назад +100

      Without population controls, it will suffer the same fate as Jakarta. Overpopulation with massive unemployment.and crime along with environmental disasters.

    • @_martian101
      @_martian101 5 месяцев назад +75

      @@MMM-hn2ul everyone knows that it's industrial forest from the start

    • @zeroyuki92
      @zeroyuki92 5 месяцев назад +58

      To add: Both Balikpapan and Samarinda has similar or even more population than San Fransisco. US has some state capital cities that has 1/10 population of one of them.

    • @MMM-hn2ul
      @MMM-hn2ul 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@_martian101 genuine question, what is the general public people opinion about this peoject? Are they willing to move to nusantara? Or they rather stay at jakarta? as for the rich and poor which are more likely to move there?

  • @fajarsetiawan8665
    @fajarsetiawan8665 5 месяцев назад +780

    Egypt's new capital costs 100 billion plus USD and it looks like a sparse, poorly designed city. The budget for Nusantara actually kinda pale in comparison

    • @sagabml
      @sagabml 4 месяца назад +108

      Correct,but Egypt's new capital is funded by the UAE, IKN is fully funded by Indonesian tax payers, so far no investor is interested in investing this stupid and wasted jokowi ambition..

    • @POLARTTYRTM
      @POLARTTYRTM 4 месяца назад +25

      Egypt's new capital is the closest thing to a 1984 city we will ever witness.

    • @avcomth
      @avcomth 4 месяца назад +23

      Instead of spending the $33 billion into flood mitigation of Jakarta, they did this how stupid. With the amount of money they could've turned Jakarta into the next Amsterdam and continue to inhabit there for hundreds more years.

    • @bretert
      @bretert 4 месяца назад +88

      @@avcomth your simply not aware of just how many people live in Jakarta, it's not really imaginable to European standards.

    • @lonesomefencesitter3186
      @lonesomefencesitter3186 4 месяца назад +64

      Jakarta is a disaster waiting to happen.
      People kept comparing Jakarta with Amsterdam, but they forgot one thing, Island of Java is susceptible to Quake.

  • @jackred2362
    @jackred2362 5 месяцев назад +2518

    Naming a city Nusantara, is like naming a city America. Nusantara is the historical name for the entire Maritime South East Asia region.

    • @sharxM16
      @sharxM16 5 месяцев назад +298

      that way they can claim nusantra only indonesia😂

    • @robbi2380
      @robbi2380 5 месяцев назад +180

      That's right, Jokowi choose it only because want grandiose name, he doesn't realize it will devaluing that name

    • @kennethkho7165
      @kennethkho7165 5 месяцев назад +25

      Rome

    • @faiq026
      @faiq026 5 месяцев назад +61

      ​@@robbi2380not really, he chooses that name simply because it's easier to remember by commoners.

    • @IPad-hv2nl
      @IPad-hv2nl 5 месяцев назад +61

      Free west Papúa!

  • @MMM-hn2ul
    @MMM-hn2ul 5 месяцев назад +1010

    Im from the same Island Borneo, Malaysia. On our side we kinda hope Indonesia do able to make this project happen. it definitely can help both country to grow. Brunei aswell.

    • @agnostikisbetter1893
      @agnostikisbetter1893 5 месяцев назад +61

      Don’t worry, this project will be successful..

    • @babehnya69
      @babehnya69 5 месяцев назад +16

      Amen

    • @dant1310
      @dant1310 5 месяцев назад +29

      Yup will be succesful. And haters which is so small but loud will be ashamed 😂

    • @cahndeso-5758
      @cahndeso-5758 5 месяцев назад +16

      Aamin, Even though many people want this project to fail, I am sure that many other Indonesian people also pray that this project will be successful.

    • @hafizilmi7255
      @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад +24

      I'm native from Kalimantan Indonesia, let's hope for the best🇮🇩🇲🇾

  • @editorizal
    @editorizal 4 месяца назад +194

    The thumbnail is Wonderful but I regret watching this video. Almost everything is outdated, even the narration is outdated. I follow the development of this city and now they decide to build new houses for the people including those who do not have legal documents.
    Building a new city is a logical way for a developing country. 30 billion is not an expensive number at all. Fixing Jakarta's problems in the same time will cost 10 times more.

    • @mrj774
      @mrj774 4 месяца назад +33

      Agree, WSJ typically produce some of the most poorly researched youtube infotainment

    • @littleadventurer5091
      @littleadventurer5091 4 месяца назад

      true, they just trying to make indonesia looks bad with that outdated info

    • @cahyospn723
      @cahyospn723 4 месяца назад

      Agree!

    • @USER06584B
      @USER06584B 4 месяца назад +4

      they even had the audacity to say indonesia isn't a rich country, as if it isnt one of the richest countries in the world. but i guess it shows the disastrous state of the global economy, and this world bank, imf, wto model of development and trade, where a country has to try to sell itself to people that want to take out more than they put in (foreign investors), aka a world ran by greed is a world we are building, and also we hope it wont burn the planet simultaneously.

    • @MeretriciousLynn
      @MeretriciousLynn 4 месяца назад

      Indonesia is poor country prove me wrong

  • @RSriMahawirya
    @RSriMahawirya 5 месяцев назад +758

    It's disappointing to see the Wall Street Journal's video on Nusantara presenting outdated footage and misleading information. Contrary to the claim that Nusantara threatens the rainforest, it is being built in an industrial forest area, which already poses a risk to the rainforest regardless of the new capital's construction. The development of Nusantara includes significant efforts toward sustainability and environmental protection. Accurate reporting is crucial for an informed discussion on this important project.
    Also the claim that Nusantara is being built "in the middle of nowhere" is inaccurate. Nusantara is strategically located near Balikpapan and Samarinda, both well-connected by toll roads, with plans to link these to Nusantara. These cities will support the new capital. While it's true that local communities face displacement issues, this is a recurring problem due to government incompetence. Instead of halting the project, we should focus on finding solutions to support local communities. Discussions on forums like Skyscrapercity offer more updated and credible information compared to major media outlets like the Wall Street Journal.

    • @AsriWardhy
      @AsriWardhy 5 месяцев назад +44

      WSJ seejak kena woke media partner dah ga relevan dan dangkal

    • @aswiran
      @aswiran 5 месяцев назад +53

      Don't expect too much, the bias on this kind of channel is quite obvious so missing information is quite normal. You can say that to most USA base news channel. While they have some relatively interesting fact but just put on mind most of times they just see it from one side be it negative or overly positive.
      It been like that since long time ago.

    • @BruhMoment-cs6tj
      @BruhMoment-cs6tj 5 месяцев назад +26

      you Indonesian can say anything about your new babylon city. bcoz most of the foreigners, including our investor think like how the video is presented. and there's nothing u can do about it

    • @rayh.9130
      @rayh.9130 5 месяцев назад +72

      ​@BruhMoment-cs6tj any investers who took this video seeiously is not a good investor

    • @rdablock
      @rdablock 5 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@rayh.9130I think they're just stating what investors are already thinking

  • @MrRoyal1177
    @MrRoyal1177 5 месяцев назад +912

    It’s a first phase of construction folks, you gotta build the basic infrastructures before foreign investments will come in and the government is also giving priority to local investors otherwise Nusantara is owned by foreigners.

    • @Yusef-uh4wl
      @Yusef-uh4wl 5 месяцев назад +104

      Exactly. But the mistake of indonesia is not communicating it clearly. Everyone be like: no investors at this stage therefore no investors forever. Its not like you have anything to invest at this point

    • @tntrtswrsmurf
      @tntrtswrsmurf 5 месяцев назад +16

      also got filter by the city urban planning rule... you can't just invest without what neededs there.. to avoid become like jakarta no planning at all

    • @kudajingkrak4919
      @kudajingkrak4919 5 месяцев назад +28

      Yup.. and government buildings must use governent money, Not investors money. especially presidential palace and military headquarters.

    • @hafizilmi7255
      @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад +22

      ​@@Yusef-uh4wlIndonesia never said that, it's all Western Media reports. They don't want Indonesia to become a succesful country, they want this project to fail so Indonesia have a bad reputation.

    • @我爱猪肉
      @我爱猪肉 5 месяцев назад

      No this is just another brown people vanity project #3294, it will fail. Like Brasilia, Naypyidaw, Egypt's New Administrative Capital, now this.

  • @organizedchaos4559
    @organizedchaos4559 5 месяцев назад +519

    They don't mention that Java accounts for 50% of the population so java centric makes sense

    • @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123
      @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 4 месяца назад +49

      Statistically, it does makes sense, but in practice this promote more inequality to the already diverse ethnic groups and their separated regions, especially the eastern side of Indonesia that still underdeveloped from all sectors. Not to mentions, the rice farming culture of the Javanese that lead to unsustainable food policies that replaced the original diets of the eastern Indonesia region that increased a demand for rice more than it should be, while local farmer break their bone in the the rice field without ever gain more income or even cheaper fertilizers. Instead of addressing the root problem, the government tend to choose short term fix by importing rice from Vietnam and others. Also, I lived in West Java which are the most populated province of Indonesia, but when we travel to Southern West Java, it's still underdeveloped since the Soeharto's regime compared to the northern Java, perhaps it's neglected due to mountainous terrains even though it had fertile soils for tea, coffee, rice, and vegetable farming.

    • @rizfam2000
      @rizfam2000 4 месяца назад +18

      Java centric gak masalah asalkan pembangunannya bukan dari menyedot kekayaan daerah lain utk bangun jawa. Kekayaan tambang2 mibyak, batubara, dll di sumatra dan derah lainnya hanya dinikmati jawa. Daerah yg punya aset malah tetap miskin. Listrik byar pet, jalan aspal cuma area utama, sisanya kubangan sapi. Ih..jadi emosi gw kl ngebahas ke tidak adilan ini. Sebal bal

    • @Abraham-uk4xy
      @Abraham-uk4xy 4 месяца назад +5

      Population is there because capital.is on the island. People can move.

    • @cappuccinogoodfinger
      @cappuccinogoodfinger 4 месяца назад +4

      Nope, it has already sowed negative sentiment from other regions and ethnicities. There were already people whispering of separation.

    • @tmack11
      @tmack11 4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah they did. The map clearly stated that. Way to watch the video lol.

  • @briantarigan7685
    @briantarigan7685 5 месяцев назад +984

    That bald guy is wrong, Nusantara are located between Balikpapan and Samarinda, both cities are literally the two largest cities in entire island of Borneo by the population and Economy, East Kalimantan is also the province rich with resources and Industry

    • @jhrdailies
      @jhrdailies 5 месяцев назад +92

      Yeah.. Quite a doubt if he is even doing his research in detail in the first place anyway😅😂
      Besides, they are taking old footages of the progress.. Not the new one tho :D

    • @babehnya69
      @babehnya69 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yuh

    • @usersfxjee35ft4
      @usersfxjee35ft4 5 месяцев назад +42

      ​@jhrdailies talking about developments in the Eastern world, don't believe what the Western media says of course.

    • @Sebastian-cu2zq
      @Sebastian-cu2zq 5 месяцев назад +14

      both are hours drive away

    • @abcddef2112
      @abcddef2112 5 месяцев назад +7

      @Booz2020What does that have to do with anything if anything they hate overtourism in Bali. Bogans.

  • @esashaik1372
    @esashaik1372 5 месяцев назад +666

    You show old pictures to give the impression Indonesia's new capital city is far from finished.The palace is already complete and so is the other buildings.

    • @alfianmuhammad1335
      @alfianmuhammad1335 5 месяцев назад

      It is FAR from finished. Building the new capital is not about building the palace, and other governmental buildings. Look at the airport and the highway, how far from finished are they? Also, how are they going to supply the 100% renewable energy they once promised? The presidential palace is just a cosmetique to cover the bad reality of the situation.

    • @kenlek869
      @kenlek869 5 месяцев назад +125

      It's called editing. The reporter has a story, the editor find pictures to complement. Truth is secondary to the narrative you want to promote.

    • @esashaik1372
      @esashaik1372 5 месяцев назад +64

      @@alfianmuhammad1335 The airport will be finished by the end of this month and the independence celebration in the new capital is going ahead as planned.

    • @westhypocrisy
      @westhypocrisy 5 месяцев назад

      @@kenlek869 absolutely right! WSJ is typical Anglo Saxon media trash when writing about rising Asia

    • @rizkywirawan2285
      @rizkywirawan2285 5 месяцев назад +29

      @@esashaik1372 Baca lagi beritanya Pak Basuki aja minta maaf bandara IKN belum jadi untuk upacara 17 Agustus

  • @ibadurrohmanmusthofa7619
    @ibadurrohmanmusthofa7619 4 месяца назад +26

    You get a fair point. Moving to a new capital does NOT remove the old problems on Jakarta

  • @JackRoopers
    @JackRoopers 5 месяцев назад +256

    0:56 The bald guy is wrong, Nusantara are located between Balikpapan and Samarinda, both cities are literally the two largest cities in entire island of Borneo by the population and Economy, East Kalimantan is also the province rich with resources and Industry.

    • @luqmanalatas8418
      @luqmanalatas8418 5 месяцев назад +5

      No it's not, the main part is in penajam.
      Im fron balikpapan.

    • @rafitohornero3850
      @rafitohornero3850 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@luqmanalatas8418proses pembangunan sampai berapa % mas. Kalo di youtube kurang percaya saya

    • @rafitohornero3850
      @rafitohornero3850 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@KAK_PAN siap babang ramah

    • @Mr371312
      @Mr371312 5 месяцев назад +8

      Large means jack. They are connected only by a single rural road, and samarinda lacks airport altogether making a 3 hour drive from BPP mandatory

    • @AdityaPangestu-vv3oo
      @AdityaPangestu-vv3oo 5 месяцев назад +2

      Kota hantu

  • @DRGIZMO29
    @DRGIZMO29 5 месяцев назад +53

    This project was already a risk when the president annouced it back in 2019. The initial deadline was 2024 for phase one. But then covid happened and all progress must stop for a while, but the president insisted on the 2024 deadline. Resulting a very rushed progress and poor planning. Combined with investors that cancelled their investments and indonesia's own economy were in a progress to bounce back after covid, so they're running out of money as well.
    So now the government's move is they are planning to increase tax percentage, and tax something that wasn't taxed before. + jokowi put his son as vice president after him so things like this would likely only the beginning of a 5 year journey of economic downfall

  • @mashilmi23
    @mashilmi23 5 месяцев назад +127

    All the best Indonesia Maju! Salam Harmoni dari Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾

    • @djumilahzain3556
      @djumilahzain3556 4 месяца назад +4

      Terimakasih apresiasinya.

    • @ariperasetya8241
      @ariperasetya8241 4 месяца назад +1

      Terimakasih doanya, tapi di indo sekarang sedang tidak baik" saja kawan.....akan ada kerusuhan tgl 23 sampai 24 😢

    • @Bayuadyyp
      @Bayuadyyp 4 месяца назад

      Kerusuhan itu akan menjadi motifasi untuk kemajuan, pemimpin juga harus mendengarkan suara rakyat nya​@@ariperasetya8241

  • @mistergunso
    @mistergunso 5 месяцев назад +283

    The narration and footage were outdated

    • @VienPeaaace
      @VienPeaaace 4 месяца назад +14

      It is meant to harm Jokowi's image, since Jokowi hurt Europe and USA by taking Freeport and other resources from them.

    • @diditpermadi2465
      @diditpermadi2465 4 месяца назад +1

      @@VienPeaaace exacly
      exactly

  • @zumabbar
    @zumabbar 5 месяцев назад +80

    6:08 When discussing about Prabowo's possible decisions in terms of Jokowi's policies, you should take into account that his running partner/vice president is Jokowi's oldest child.

    • @alexlong3714
      @alexlong3714 5 месяцев назад +7

      Jokowi's son will be the future President, after Prabowo's 2 terms finishes. in 2034.

    • @DasboardTVDE
      @DasboardTVDE 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@alexlong3714 to be honest, it's not really big of a deal, what matters is stability, as long they can keep the country in one piece and stable, stability brings foreign investors and more job opportunities.

    • @hafizilmi7255
      @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@alexlong3714lol I voted for Prabowo in 2024, not bcs of Jokowi or Gibran tho. If Gibran decided to run in 2034 I don't think he'd win.

    • @abcddef2112
      @abcddef2112 5 месяцев назад +2

      And he and ganjar ran on the platform of continuing it vs Anies who ran against continuing. Which candidates won?

    • @zumabbar
      @zumabbar 5 месяцев назад

      @@abcddef2112 ??????????

  • @chrysllerryu4171
    @chrysllerryu4171 5 месяцев назад +177

    6:34 . not a wealthy country? they are 16th largest economy duh. We support INDONESIA from Philippines 🇵🇭🤝🇮🇩. There are lot could happen before 2050, and indonesia could overcome it

    • @0N3ternal
      @0N3ternal 5 месяцев назад +7

      Tbf this is a very huge project and they might be comparing it relatively.

    • @georgkantherman4125
      @georgkantherman4125 4 месяца назад +51

      But with a large population. If you consider the average wealth of Indonesians, we are very poor.

    • @sayfolman7752
      @sayfolman7752 4 месяца назад +15

      The Country Are Wealthy,But Not The People Average Income Per Capita/Person Is $ 4+K Per Year
      Indonesia And Philippines Are Wealthy With Population Indonesia GDP Is $ 1 Trillion/217 Million Populations
      Singapore GDP Is $470 Billion/5 Million Populations
      Let Assume That Singapore Have 15 Million Populations
      $ 470 billion x15=1,4 Trillion

    • @Youmemha
      @Youmemha 4 месяца назад +12

      to be fair, indonesia is one of the most populated country with middle to low income of GDP, comparing with other most populated country like China and USA, Indonesia left far behind them

    • @0N3ternal
      @0N3ternal 4 месяца назад

      @@Youmemha Yes we have a lot to improve, but it's improving. USA has said themselves that we are developing fast so all we can do is hope they are right

  • @alichahin
    @alichahin 5 месяцев назад +105

    It is hilarious to see Westerners thinking they know what is better for Indonesians than the Indonesians themselves. The condescending tone is grating.

    • @an.hs.n
      @an.hs.n 4 месяца назад +9

      They need to create a content that attracts viewers.

    • @fachrezaa1764
      @fachrezaa1764 4 месяца назад +10

      they just do the reports, nothing to deep,
      what they deliver are actually what many indonesian media has already provided to public...

    • @untimateds
      @untimateds 4 месяца назад +9

      Probably they are. Sometimes a better solution comes from an outsider... Better to keep eyes open for critiques, and to keep neutral bias towards ideas.

    • @kennyc2281
      @kennyc2281 4 месяца назад +1

      Well, even some indonesian doesnt know better for themselves.

    • @arrielradja5522
      @arrielradja5522 4 месяца назад

      ​@@kennyc2281 oh shut up no country population know what better for themselves even the advance ones. What looks like a good decision 1 or 5 years before could be disastrous for them today.

  • @ahmadbakrizubir
    @ahmadbakrizubir 5 месяцев назад +162

    Critics scoffed when Kuala Lumpur’s administrative center was moved to the undeveloped Putrajaya. Yet, this ambitious project has transformed into one of Malaysia’s iconic landmarks. Builders will build. Commentators will comment. Just do it and don't back down. You got this Indonesia! :)

    • @garrydimasa1964
      @garrydimasa1964 5 месяцев назад +8

      Like that old proverb, "anjing menggonggong, kafilah berlalu"
      Dogs will keeps barking while the train moves on

    • @MesutOjil78
      @MesutOjil78 5 месяцев назад +39

      putrajaya is merely 20km south of KL. It can easily enjoys all the economic and geographical advantages of kuala lumpur. nusantara is something else. good luck attracting even your own people to move from jakarta to kalimantan.

    • @syaz8922
      @syaz8922 4 месяца назад +13

      @@MesutOjil78 tbh its weird why they didn't just move the capital to Sumatera because its literally the nearest to Straits of Malacca (ease of capital city development) also the advantages of the route but Malaysians know why 🤣

    • @mapk1516
      @mapk1516 4 месяца назад +15

      Its both heartwarming and sad to know that Malaysians are overwhelmingly supportive of this project whereas a vocal minority of Indonesians with significant media backing and coverage have been duped into false narratives that this will fail.

    • @aligustavo7611
      @aligustavo7611 4 месяца назад +12

      putrajaya oso known as KL for common folks bruh. same as the nearby cities , means that only a stone throw away from the real KL

  • @kusumayadimartadinata7496
    @kusumayadimartadinata7496 4 месяца назад +53

    WSJ (media amerika) penggiring opini atas keresahan amerika dan eropa terkait energi terbaharukan yang sampai dengan saat ini indonesia tidak mau mengimport barang mentah ke negara koloni mereka...

    • @AssyriacUnitarian
      @AssyriacUnitarian 4 месяца назад +11

      Ya mungkin, hanya mungkin.... Indonesian needs to focus on corruption and social adhesion first before anything
      I mean look at what's happening

    • @itsdenada
      @itsdenada 4 месяца назад +4

      Dan anda sama aja, digiring opininya oleh parpol dalam negeri

    • @icbm5389
      @icbm5389 4 месяца назад +2

      Biarin aj yg pnting kerja krja krja....

    • @dendiepie1547
      @dendiepie1547 4 месяца назад

      Omke gas omke gas

    • @OilyMachine
      @OilyMachine 4 месяца назад

      ​@@AssyriacUnitariancorruption cannot resolve in years. remember many corrupt people are very powerful, they have connections, money and laws suited to them. It takes decades to dismantle their empire by filling the government with clean politician that comes from good and determined citizen which are maybe next generation. so destroy the root and stem from the source which are the ministry of education. make children avoid the danger of cheating, be resolute and firm against cheating. These generation already done for, people like to overtaking others without consequences even from the lower levels

  • @agnostikisbetter1893
    @agnostikisbetter1893 5 месяцев назад +191

    Indonesia has $1.5 trillion gdp, with economy growth 5% . Their annual budget is $200+ billion per year, also this city is long term planning.. currently the phase 1 (government area) will soon be completed. there is $ 3.7 billion investment from local companies and will likely to increase since the letter of interest. Ikn also located in between two big cities..

    • @kaptenhiu5623
      @kaptenhiu5623 5 месяцев назад +1

      Dude... indonesia could have 100 trillion GDP but can its government collect some of it to fund its expenses? Indonesian people don't like paying taxes. They don't trust their government. All businesses, big and small, cheat to reduce the taxes they pay, even though Indonesia has a fairly low tax rate. Increasing the tax rate even slightly will increase people's dissatisfaction

    • @WarzoneOfficial22789
      @WarzoneOfficial22789 5 месяцев назад +28

      Indonesia akan selalu buruk dimata media barat karena ini negara mayoritas islam. Mereka akan lebih senang mengangkat nama Singapura karena ini seperti negara boneka yang dijadikan anjing peliharaan barat di ASEAN. Lihatlah masalah lingkungan yang ditimbulkan oleh pembangunan Singapura tidak pernah diangkat oleh media2 barat ini.. yang diangkat hanya kemajuan negara kota ini. So.. jangan salahkan Indonesia jika dia lebih dekat ke China secara ekonomi. Lucunya media barat tidak suka melihat kedekatan Indonesia dengan China dan selalu memberitakan negatif proyek2 yang mereka kerjakan bersama seperti proyek HSR, proyek smelter Nikel, dan lain sebagainya. Dari sini kelihatan betapa munafiknya orang2 barat.

    • @TheEvilBombastic
      @TheEvilBombastic 5 месяцев назад

      @@WarzoneOfficial22789 sangat sangat benar , mereka hanya mau menang sendiri

    • @abcddef2112
      @abcddef2112 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@WarzoneOfficial22789Indonesia tidak boleh berkembang harus jadi cuma sumber sda dari jaman VOC sampai skrg. Tidak boleh proses sendiri. Itulah pemikiran bule.

    • @MI-wy8pr
      @MI-wy8pr 5 месяцев назад +16

      Sebelum melihat Negara lain, lihatlah pejabat Negeri yg sedang membangun dinasti dan oligarki untuk keluarga dan kerabatnya.

  • @loveky1855
    @loveky1855 5 месяцев назад +80

    I can’t wait to go back home! Im leaving indonesia since i was 19 .. its been 13 years now. Can’t wait to bring my kids & visit indonesia back soon:))

    • @DestiFitri
      @DestiFitri 4 месяца назад +10

      don't even think about it lol. many of us have planned to move to other country, even some people already moved and changed their nationality. there's nothing good here anymore.

    • @anthonymc8361
      @anthonymc8361 4 месяца назад +8

      You can visit but just don't live here. Stay wherever you are with your green card or residency. Many Indonesian are trying the hardest to move out, so believe me you don't want to live here for good.

    • @mi_v_ny
      @mi_v_ny 4 месяца назад

      Dont bother lol

    • @cashewnuttel9054
      @cashewnuttel9054 4 месяца назад +2

      @@DestiFitri "There's nothing good here anymore" - countries won't improve with that attitude. And you can't keep running to rich countries when things don't work.

    • @Nelson__Mandela
      @Nelson__Mandela 4 месяца назад

      Indonesia is only good for visiting for several days or weeks, thank me later

  • @kristinaneo27
    @kristinaneo27 4 месяца назад +20

    can't comment much but i personally believe that this Nusantara is going to make Indonesia better.

  • @adityasuwignyo7365
    @adityasuwignyo7365 5 месяцев назад +43

    The palace is already complete and so is the other buildings, You show old pictures to give the impression Indonesia's new capital city is far from finished

    • @rizkysetiadi4191
      @rizkysetiadi4191 5 месяцев назад +16

      What other building you say? The airport is even far from finish 😂😂. What is already completed is just ceremonial Infrastructure to be use in independence day ceremony

    • @CrimsonHermitt
      @CrimsonHermitt 4 месяца назад +2

      @@rizkysetiadi4191 owo aja gk mau ke situ hahaha

    • @abumahput5408
      @abumahput5408 4 месяца назад +5

      But honestly,IKN is a badly designed city. What the heck is the Garuda ( it seems more like bat) structured built behind the palace. Spooky as a symbol !

    • @Bonsingu
      @Bonsingu 4 месяца назад

      @@rizkysetiadi4191hotel bintang 5 udah jadi, kamp pssi hampir jadi tuh... coba deh cek video-video baru, itu pekerja kalau vakum baru kita khawatir, lah itu msh terus membangun kok, santuy bro tinggal masalah wktu aja smua jd tu. Positif ajalah

  • @marselinusnugraha2207
    @marselinusnugraha2207 5 месяцев назад +152

    Imploding, Said someone who's country of origin is building High speed rail and spends tens of bilions of dollars somehow delayed for almost 2 decades and got nowhere .

    • @passerby4507
      @passerby4507 5 месяцев назад +24

      Why don't you try rebutting the points made instead of making lame ad hominem attacks?

    • @zee9709
      @zee9709 5 месяцев назад +45

      ​@@passerby4507 lol, bro triggered😂

    • @passerby4507
      @passerby4507 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@zee9709 Get a brain cell, it helps

    • @zee9709
      @zee9709 5 месяцев назад +29

      @@passerby4507 bahahahahaha🤣

    • @zeroyuki92
      @zeroyuki92 5 месяцев назад +47

      ​@@passerby4507 Their 'expert' is already wrong even in the first minute of the video. It's not located out of nowhere, it's smacked right between two biggest ID cities in Kalimantan, each one has the population of San Francisco. People should not waste their energy to refute all of it.

  • @chacmool2581
    @chacmool2581 5 месяцев назад +36

    Historically in Indonesia failed projects are often the most lucrative and financially successful. If you know what I mean. This capital relocation White Elephant boondoggle was predictable from day 0. There is nothing new or surprising about this story or Indonesia. It's the sad normal for the country.

    • @ims7175
      @ims7175 4 месяца назад

      If this capital city success, the citizens will pay a huge price for a 100 coming years. But, they have to pay for it when jakarta is sinking

  • @cupofjoen
    @cupofjoen 5 месяцев назад +53

    Non-regime-buzzer here. Nusantara is Jokowi's political move to have his legacy remembered like previous presidents. Ironically, Nusantara has never been declared in his campaign. This city is not for the people, it's for the government regime to have better quality of life. Lots of land disputes, native people were compensated without relocation plan. Even Jokowi ignored McKinsey's research recommendations on city's water source location. There's no urgency for this. People with common sense knows this. As a native borneo living in Java, you're all duped by Jokowi.

    • @paulsobu9084
      @paulsobu9084 4 месяца назад

      It should called :
      ASEMKA ? 😃

    • @riyanthonididi
      @riyanthonididi 4 месяца назад

      UP the best analytics!

    • @Labib613
      @Labib613 4 месяца назад

      It is great opinion bro

    • @pekonstop6008
      @pekonstop6008 4 месяца назад +2

      Kamu bukan orang Indonesia tapi lebih tau tentang proyek ikn😂
      Siapa kamu

    • @muhmarie
      @muhmarie 4 месяца назад +4

      Finally see a non-buzzer here. Thankyou

  • @hafizilmi7255
    @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад +84

    The main reason behind moving Indonesian capital from Jakarta to Nusantara is never because of Jakarta's sinking problem. While it's true that it's one of the reason, but it's not the key reason.
    The key reason is because economic development since our independence has always been only concentrated on Java island. So the moving of capital city will symbolize the moving from a Java-centrist development towards an Indonesian-centrist development.
    As a native Kalimantan, I really appreciate this move as it'll also bring more and more development to our neglected massive island (3rd largest in the world, as big as the country of Turkey).

    • @imamwiradhika2279
      @imamwiradhika2279 5 месяцев назад

      I feel that even without moving the capital, development would be fairly even. What is needed is not moving the capital but greater autonomy to local governments.
      Salam dari sulawesi
      (translated by google translate)

    • @emilyschwartz9536
      @emilyschwartz9536 5 месяцев назад

      They discussed the Java-centrism point in the video.

    • @hafizilmi7255
      @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@imamwiradhika2279 buktinya hampir 80 tahun kita merdeka baru Jawa terkhusus kota-kota seperti Jakarta saja yang maju, daerah jauh tertinggal. Mereka enak jalan tol dimana-mana kereta antarprovinsi mrt lrt krl, lah Kalimantan aja yang segeda gaban rel kereta belum ada sama sekali. Ini saatnya agar pembangunan lebih ke Indonesia sentris, kapan lagi kita bertindak. Jangan mau dikekang Barat.
      Otonomi yang ditambah juga berarti kesempatan buat pemprov pemkab dan pemkot untuk korup juga lebih besar, bayangkan ada berapa ratus pemerintahan daerah di Indonesia. Pengawasan dan wewenang dari pusat otomatis berkurang, artinya pengimplementasian UU di daerah semakin besar terjadi kemungkinan penyelewengan. Otonomi yang kita punya sudah cukup dan berimbang untuk kepentingan daerah dan pusat menurut saya. Kecuali Aceh di sana lebih besar kewenangan daerah.

    • @hafizilmi7255
      @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад

      @@emilyschwartz9536 yeah but in the beginning they make it sounds like it was Jakarta's sinking problem that is the main reason behind this.

    • @emilyschwartz9536
      @emilyschwartz9536 5 месяцев назад

      @@hafizilmi7255 Nusantara’s strategic location in the center of Indonesia is a major point in the ‘Why Nusantara?’ portion of the video. Most people who watched the entire video and not just the first 30 seconds will understand that.

  • @YantoSembiring-ub7qo
    @YantoSembiring-ub7qo 4 месяца назад +92

    as an INDONESIAN I can confirm that everything this video telling us is not true, this is one of the example of how western media always try to drag down asian countries image.

    • @K30A
      @K30A 4 месяца назад +1

      No wonder Lee Kuan Yew despised western media so much.

    • @Martha.fokker
      @Martha.fokker 4 месяца назад +1

      Corny propaganda to be more precise

    • @dhydhy852
      @dhydhy852 4 месяца назад +8

      Biasa bang media barat emang sukanya gitu.

    • @mohammaddzulfikar755
      @mohammaddzulfikar755 4 месяца назад +1

      Nice bro

    • @kadrunbotol9636
      @kadrunbotol9636 4 месяца назад +4

      Looks like they are not happy with our president decision😂😂😂😂😂

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp 5 месяцев назад +21

    The problem they have is that they're trying to relocate capital, not the CAPITOL.... 🤦

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 4 месяца назад +3

      they really need to though. Jakarta infrastructure, the water tables are sinking unevenly, and in 20 years it will only get worse.

    • @kalvon
      @kalvon 2 месяца назад

      ​@@davidanalyst671in 20 years, Jakarta will be swimming with the fishes.
      It's sad, thus the relocation.

  • @Nadhif_Altafy
    @Nadhif_Altafy 5 месяцев назад +30

    The whole point of the new capital was to separate Jakarta’s role as a Economy and political city and also Indonesia was criticized to be Java centric for development (which is one of the reasons why Jokowi is hated) and with Nusantara created it will be Indonesia’s Washington DC and like the video stated Borneo (Kalimantan) will be better connectivity islands

    • @wiry7428
      @wiry7428 4 месяца назад

      Which one is the correct? you wanted to say IKN is aimed to function separately as political city, while Jakarta as economic city? So why IKN has to struggle to attract investors to build another economic center in the IKN?

    • @Nadhif_Altafy
      @Nadhif_Altafy 4 месяца назад

      @@wiry7428 Why ask me? You should ask the Goverment face to face instead

  • @ColinAnderson-hy2oj
    @ColinAnderson-hy2oj 5 месяцев назад +16

    I have heard that NO geological surveys were done prior to the commencement of construction - and that area is not geolocally stable!

    • @WarzoneOfficial22789
      @WarzoneOfficial22789 5 месяцев назад +3

      Berarti anda melihat atau mendengar HOAX..😂😂.Faktanya jauh sebelum itu dibangun presiden membentuk tim secara diam2 melakukan survey beberapa daerah termasuk survey geologi dan akhirnya diputuskan dilokasi sekarang. So.. Jadi orang jangan bodoh.. Banyakin literasi.!!

    • @Mehwhatevr
      @Mehwhatevr 4 месяца назад +3

      @@WarzoneOfficial22789 If you want to believe that. The very likely explanation is that a survey was done and ignored. Choosing the current location doesn't mean the current location is suitable. It might just be the most suitable.

    • @WarzoneOfficial22789
      @WarzoneOfficial22789 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Mehwhatevr saya orang Indonesia dan kau bukan orang Indonesia.. anda tau apa tentang Indonesia..?? Bahkan itu disiarkan langsung oleh presiden dichannel resmi youtubenya.. dia membentuk tim kecil secara rahasia karena jika terekspose media mafia tanah akan berspekulasi dan harga tanah dengan sepihak akan melambung tinggi.

    • @editorizal
      @editorizal 4 месяца назад

      Hoax! 😂 This project lead by Badan Perencanaan Nasional.

    • @kalvon
      @kalvon 2 месяца назад

      So do the other places.
      Borneo is literally one of the safest options to go with.
      In terms of geologically and politically.

  • @Deriv44
    @Deriv44 5 месяцев назад +44

    I wonder wasnt there any options to save Jakarta from being submerged instead of build a 33 billions dollars city

    • @innocentpasserby9632
      @innocentpasserby9632 5 месяцев назад +16

      It's to move the government so it's harder for people to protest in front of the government building since half of Indonesia population is on Java. Now people will have to fly or take long journey ship to get there instead of just taking bus or train.

    • @Deriv44
      @Deriv44 5 месяцев назад +14

      @innocentpasserby9632 OK, so they are doing pretty much the same thing that the Egyptian government is doing build a new capital easier to stop revolted or protest from the peoples

    • @mkenobi6534
      @mkenobi6534 5 месяцев назад +5

      Jakarta beach land always getting lower from sea every year & surrounded by active mountain ring of fire, traffic road very crowded would take much time to work, lack of water ways will make flood every year

    • @kucingmasjid_3345
      @kucingmasjid_3345 5 месяцев назад +14

      Jakarta is overpopulated and overcrowded because people from other parts of Indonesia keep flocking there to get some of the economic crumbs. Why would they bother to do that? Because the economy in their hometown (especially in the rural areas) is not prospering.
      For example, the farmers in the rural areas are being neglected with lots of imported commodities that decrease the market price. Those farmers then stopped teaching their offspring how to farm and push them to work in other fields. This phenomenon forces them into urbanisation and Jakarta is the right place for that, economically.
      While this is the problem (of many other problems regarding economic inequality), the government instead chose to build a billion-dollars new capital city which many people see as a solution not solving the core of the problem, right? 🤷
      Would the farmers prosper after building a new capital? Would people stop flocking to big cities and making them overpopulated? No.
      I don't see a connection between this newly-built capital city and the prosperity of the people. Do you? 👀
      Although I see the prosperity of the big capital-owners after knowing the private companies investing would be given 100+ years of property right by the government 😂 What a joke!
      While I don't stand with Wall Street journalism, I also don't stand with my own government!
      -- an Indonesian POV

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@innocentpasserby9632 This is one of those comments from people who are upset because their preferred presidential candidate didn't win, which is why they're making such remarks. Really, which society are you referring to? Does your comment represent the entire population? While 60% of the people actually support the current government, including the new president who also supports the development of IKN (new capital city). Meanwhile, those who are protesting without clear cause are often low-skilled 'buzzers' working for a handful of rice, and also extremist Islamic groups that like to create chaos in DKI Jakarta.

  • @kucingmasjid_3345
    @kucingmasjid_3345 5 месяцев назад +42

    Jakarta is overpopulated and overcrowded because people from other parts of Indonesia keep flocking there to get some of the economic crumbs. Why would they bother to do that? Because the economy in their hometown (especially in the rural areas) is not prospering.
    For example, the farmers in the rural areas are being neglected with lots of imported commodities that decrease the market price. Those farmers then stopped teaching their offspring how to farm and push them to work in other fields. This phenomenon forces them into urbanisation and Jakarta is the right place for that, economically.
    While this is the problem (of many other problems regarding economic inequality), the government instead chose to build a billion-dollars new capital city which many people see as a solution not solving the core of the problem, right? 🤷
    Would the farmers prosper after building a new capital? Would people stop flocking to big cities and making them overpopulated? No.
    I don't see a connection between this newly-built capital city and the prosperity of the people. Do you? 👀
    Although I see the prosperity of the big capital-owners after knowing the private companies investing would be given 100+ years of property right by the government 😂 What a joke!
    While I don't stand with Wall Street journalism, I also don't stand with my own government!
    -- an Indonesian POV

    • @krollpeter
      @krollpeter 4 месяца назад

      I understand that Jakarta is doomed, at least some parts of it.
      But ... I suspect that the rulers and super-rich just want to get out of that moloch.

    • @arrielradja5522
      @arrielradja5522 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@krollpeterThat and it make sense, in a economic and political wise, the country is too centralized in Java so them moving to kalimantan is a symbolic move saying that its not just Java that will get attention

    • @krollpeter
      @krollpeter 4 месяца назад

      @@arrielradja5522 Do you think it has to be a completely new location, brand new build? Or could they have chosen a city that's existing and expand on it's existing infrastructure?

    • @yosuaanthony8065
      @yosuaanthony8065 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@krollpeterbuilding in already existing cities is far harder cos most indonesian cities have very small roads that can't cope with public transport. Mine is 2nd biggest in east java and the traffic is hopeless cos the only public transport we can build at this point is subway. Most roads outside artery roads are way too small to even accomodate bus

    • @krollpeter
      @krollpeter 4 месяца назад

      @@yosuaanthony8065 ok thanks!
      I do think that Kalimantan is a good decision. It also feels closer to most of Asia, Jakarta always feels sort of on the fringe.

  • @wahtusy3519
    @wahtusy3519 Месяц назад

    Let's go Indonesia! You can do it. Support from the Philippines. 🇵🇭🇮🇩🇵🇭🇮🇩🇵🇭🇮🇩

  • @tigeruppercut2000
    @tigeruppercut2000 4 месяца назад +5

    You can't imagine how frucking hot and humid it is for the poor construction workers working there

  • @yaceta3512
    @yaceta3512 Месяц назад +3

    Step by steo guide for new cities:
    1. Anounce your new city
    2. Give it a cool name like Neom, Nusantara or New admitstrstive Capitol
    3. Implement SiFi concept art and throw around words like: smart city, AI, green, sustainable, economic groth
    4. Gather money from naive investors
    5. Start building without a real plan
    6. Watch how corrupt officials steak significant portions of the budget
    7. Run out of money
    8. Put the projekt on hold
    Congratiulations. In just 8 simple steps you have bankruptet you country, humiliated yourself and your people and wasted more money than you would have needed to solve your initial problem.
    Imagine the kind of damm you could built around Jakarta for 33 bn Dollars
    Imagine the metro system you could build in Kairo for 54 bn Dollars.
    Imagine what you could do with neoms budget of 1,5 Trilion Dollars.
    But nah, a new city or a realy tall building sounds better + you can name it after yourself.

  • @hmakash8489
    @hmakash8489 4 месяца назад +1

    May All'ah Bless Indonesia 🔥

  • @an.hs.n
    @an.hs.n 4 месяца назад +50

    Logika video ini, negara yang "miskin" tidak boleh membangun. Alasannya dibuat-buat lah: mahal, dana tidak ada, tidak ada investor, deforestasi, displacement penduduk lokal, hujan, jauh dari kota lain, lokasi terpencil, dll. Tidak ada analisis ttg faktor upaya dan pemecahan masalah.

    • @kelvincostner7775
      @kelvincostner7775 4 месяца назад +8

      Bnr. Untuk sekarang, IKN hanya jadi pusat pemerintahan. Kalo organ2 penting negara, semuanya masih berada di Jakarta. Pusat bisnis, hiburan, kantor2 dll, gmn mau pindahnya? Itulah hal yang belum dilihat oleh orang luar khususnya investor asing sebab ga ada plan transmigrasi untuk semua yang ada di Jakarta.🙁
      Satu PR yang besar untuk Indonesia.

    • @itsdenada
      @itsdenada 4 месяца назад

      ​@@kelvincostner7775Apalagi salah satu "nilai jual" IKN kepada rakyat Indonesia adalah katanya sebagian biaya akan ditanggung investasi asing, tapi sampai sekarang gak ada investor asing yang mau masuk sini

    • @imanmanimanman7667
      @imanmanimanman7667 4 месяца назад +1

      Dia kata Indonesia negara miskin bukanya negara kaya😢😢😢

    • @fachrezaa1764
      @fachrezaa1764 4 месяца назад +1

      Ya, atau memang kita yang tutup telinga untuk diingatkan..
      menjadi negara maju itu tidak cukup meninggikan proudness, tapi juga perlu instropeksi yang dalam.

    • @ANGGUN217
      @ANGGUN217 4 месяца назад +1

      barat ga mau indo mulai bergerak cepat, pak jokowi pernah berkata negara cepat mengalahkan negara lambat,.
      btw gue ge kejebak macet, didepan gue skrg da emak2 motoran, lampu seinnya kekanan, gue nunggu nih mo kemana dia.

  • @SinnohStarly
    @SinnohStarly 4 месяца назад +4

    This was released 6 days ago, but it looks significantly more constructed today. This footage is outdated

  • @CosmopolitanXMan
    @CosmopolitanXMan 2 месяца назад +1

    It's not entirely accurate to say that it's in the middle of nowhere. It's located a bit left of and between the capital city of East Kalimantan province, Samarinda and the currently second largest city in East Kalimantan, Balikpapan. These two existing cities will become supporting cities to the new capital city.

  • @kedawolfch.
    @kedawolfch. 4 месяца назад +4

    79 year Fredom from 🇳🇱
    Happy independence for our country!🇮🇩
    Praise of indonesia, praise of nusantara!

  • @Karthagast
    @Karthagast 4 месяца назад +4

    This video by WSJ looks like a pre-emptive strike by the Anglo-Saxon elite on Indonesia, amidst fears of Indonesia going fully independent in terms of international policy and shifting towards BRICS block.

  • @DarthVaderAsip
    @DarthVaderAsip 4 месяца назад +2

    every country have finite budget. is there any country with unlimited budget?

  • @nalzazlan
    @nalzazlan 5 месяцев назад +26

    How did Malaysia did it tho? I don't think they needed foreign investors when they built putrajaya but then again it is not far from the capital city so they don't really need to invite investors they just naturally pour in.

    • @ahmadimran5262
      @ahmadimran5262 5 месяцев назад

      Tun M used Petronas money to bail out the project, just like what he usually does

    • @agnostikisbetter1893
      @agnostikisbetter1893 5 месяцев назад +7

      Putrajaya is small compared to nusantara. It’s 2 times bigger than New York city. If you consider only government area like putrajaya, nusantara do it the same. no need investment for that.

    • @hafizilmi7255
      @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад +1

      Putrajaya is small and supplying logistic is very very easy compared to supplying massive Nusantara

    • @thankuslay6766
      @thankuslay6766 5 месяцев назад +7

      IKN doesn't need foreign investors for the governmental buildings which is the same case w/ Putrajaya. But IKN will built the next phases (commercial and residents)

    • @agnostikisbetter1893
      @agnostikisbetter1893 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@thankuslay6766yeah, ikn way bigger and not only government place like putrajaya

  • @Willys-Wagon
    @Willys-Wagon 5 месяцев назад +15

    DC, Brazilia, Canberra, exists. Whether Nusantara succeeds is going to depend on consistency of policy support.

  • @MaGioZal
    @MaGioZal 5 месяцев назад +5

    Borneo is one of the last sanctuaries of big fauna of Indonesia, like the orangutan. What will happen when thousands of people move to the new city right in the middle of the rainforest?

  • @silantoro
    @silantoro 5 месяцев назад +5

    We need this for our future.. not instantly.. need patient and hardwork from the government

  • @Nadhif_Altafy
    @Nadhif_Altafy 5 месяцев назад +4

    I would disagree for Jakarta called as LA since Movie Producing is not as big as economy investment in Jakarta

  • @imadedugdugarcana2210
    @imadedugdugarcana2210 2 месяца назад +1

    Indonesia will great forever

  • @AnaaMaysa
    @AnaaMaysa 4 месяца назад +3

    The leaders in Indonesia from the past until now, they lead countries from different tribes, nations, languages, religions and regions, I think they are all fckin awesome!

    • @royanjunior9782
      @royanjunior9782 3 месяца назад

      wow you know that Indonesia is so diverse, many people don't know that

  • @uncledan2u
    @uncledan2u 4 месяца назад +7

    Assalamualaikum and hello. I'm Malaysian. Wishing all the best for Indonesia 🤲.

    • @royanjunior9782
      @royanjunior9782 3 месяца назад

      waalaikumsalam, terimakasih saudara, wishing all the best for malaysia too❤

  • @therichtershow
    @therichtershow Час назад

    Is this really a thing?
    Spending time in Indonesia has been epic! The culture is amazing, there is so much history everywhere and the people are fun! I can't stop taking pictures and making videos here.

  • @fadhil_m3
    @fadhil_m3 5 месяцев назад +37

    At best, it's another Naypyidaw, an empty city for the government to distance itself from the dissent of common people

    • @hafizilmi7255
      @hafizilmi7255 5 месяцев назад +10

      More like at its worst, I can't imagine anything worst than that scenario.
      And don't forget it's not completely far away from population. And design is very sensible unlike Naypyidaw weird design because Naypyidaw is design to be a military fortress

    • @darkmatter3112
      @darkmatter3112 4 месяца назад +1

      The city will be connected to Samarina and Balikpapan which are major cities in Kalimantan. While it is true that majority are on Java, the new capital is not immune from dissent.

    • @jordan-ho7gt
      @jordan-ho7gt 4 месяца назад +2

      Brazil did this by moving the capital from Rio de Janeiro to Brasilia

    • @Villagerwarrior
      @Villagerwarrior 4 месяца назад

      Dude... IKN is placed between Samarinda and Balikpapan. You got to be dumb to think people from those huge city not gonna flock to IKN. As for if Indonesian government can finish it close to the deadline or if it gonna have an impact to the economy due to it's cost... That's another story though..

  • @dlsbd4111
    @dlsbd4111 5 месяцев назад +16

    You people know that investors need basic infrastructure to start investing, right?

    • @wiry7428
      @wiry7428 5 месяцев назад +3

      Investors need CONSUMERS so they can expect people buying their merchandise. How that would be possible when nusantara is only inhabited by civil servants? Even jokowi and his brat refused to move to nusantara

    • @FauziNew-kj7xq
      @FauziNew-kj7xq 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@wiry7428isnt because IKN is still in building phase?
      Do u want to live in half Made home lol

    • @agnostikisbetter1893
      @agnostikisbetter1893 5 месяцев назад

      @@wiry7428educate yourself

    • @wiry7428
      @wiry7428 4 месяца назад +2

      @@FauziNew-kj7xq So far the progress made only for phase 1, for the housings and offices for the PNS and its officials. While phase 2 (for investors) is struggling to attract investors. Why should investors take any interest to invest their money into a city only inhabited by roughly 2 millions civil servants?

    • @kelvincostner7775
      @kelvincostner7775 4 месяца назад

      Basic infrastructures and thrust.

  • @liewchengyeh
    @liewchengyeh 4 месяца назад +2

    As a Malaysian (living in East Malaysia, Sabah)....
    I hope this mega project can be successful.....
    ** this will force Peninsular Malaysia to quickly develop Sabah/Sarawak.....
    ** Sabah/Sarawak is some what behind in development; compare to Peninsular Malaysia

    • @persada5913
      @persada5913 4 месяца назад +2

      If you develop Sabah/Sarawak it will take a lot of deforestation and that is not good for the environment and nature. Every year the federal government gives out to state governments grants for development. Ask your ministers what did they do with the money?! The grant you got ain't small! The responsibility to develop the states rest with the state government NOT Federal government!

  • @menjivarTv
    @menjivarTv 5 месяцев назад +11

    I think in the long term this new city is a good solution, having the economy of a country depend only on one metropolitan area is a risk, considering climate change can hurt Jakarta in the future

  • @AltianoGerung
    @AltianoGerung 5 месяцев назад +13

    I don't necessarily pick a side here but it says a lot how you guys don't know indonesian's politics when you say prabowo (the elected president) is uncertain to weigh in on jokowi's plan.
    they're like best friends now, even jokowi's child is the vice president-elect.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's not certain thst he will continue even with that

    • @AltianoGerung
      @AltianoGerung 5 месяцев назад

      @@Cecilia-ky3uw and what would be your argument saying that?

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@AltianoGerung nothing makes it certain he will put much focus onto the project, I mean hear what he's talking about, it's mostly school lunches

    • @kingsimba9513
      @kingsimba9513 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@AltianoGerungthe VP holds very little (if any) power in Indonesia. The president calls the shots. Now that Prabowo's in, he doesn't have to suck up to Jokowi, especially since it's unlikely he'll run for a 2nd term (due to his age).
      Prabowo is also quite a prideful individual. No one's able to predict how he'll end up running his presidency lol.

    • @AltianoGerung
      @AltianoGerung 5 месяцев назад

      Well i guess all of us including me can only speculate, time will tell after all

  • @kentstructures4388
    @kentstructures4388 5 месяцев назад +12

    2045 finish date is still a long way to go... A lot can be done still..

  • @sidi5eyess
    @sidi5eyess 4 месяца назад +43

    I feel like this is Western propaganda trying to paint Indonesia and SEA in a bad light. We are not poor like the West thinks we are. We are not traditional, we are just full of cultures and natural beauty. This video is misleading in so many ways. I'm not Indonesian, I'm Singaporean. We are neighbours, and together with Malaysia, we look forward to the success of Nusantara, which benefits the entire region. Please get your facts right, Wall Street. 😁

    • @bruh-ni1fy
      @bruh-ni1fy 4 месяца назад +14

      Lol... Someone from SEA's richest country with almost 10x our GDP per capita talking about our economic conditions.... You have never been to Indonesia or if you have then the furthest you have been is Jakarta/Bali and you are talking about economic conditions? 🤣

    • @SPECIALmouTH
      @SPECIALmouTH 4 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @irjakharad
      @irjakharad 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@bruh-ni1fyoh yeah great indonesia great economic with more middle class being targeted more tax , more people become jobless ,

    • @bruh-ni1fy
      @bruh-ni1fy 4 месяца назад +2

      @@irjakharad I love being forced to pay tapera while not being allowed to use the program's facilities 🥰🥰🥰

    • @minariv8300
      @minariv8300 4 месяца назад

      ​@@bruh-ni1fyhow is Indonesian life there?

  • @wmd3477
    @wmd3477 4 месяца назад

    Way to go Indonesia! May this new capital will be successful as Jakarta and more.

  • @roblox737mbll5
    @roblox737mbll5 5 месяцев назад +13

    Imagine Myanmar and North Korea is jus 2% of Indonesia's economy yet they are able to built cities out of nowhere. This is a 1.7 trillion dollar economy for God's sake not developing.

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +6

      Yes, that’s the problem. Western media always skews information about Asia, even though the reality on the ground can be contradicted if the bald man in the video were to visit the project and meet the head of the IKN authority in our country.

  • @MrTVintro
    @MrTVintro 4 месяца назад +5

    Historically, packing up the capital and moving it generally doesn't work out.

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 4 месяца назад

      yes it does.

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 4 месяца назад

      Brazil, USA did it, Egypt, Korea is considering it, Russia has done it 100 times, but thats not necessarily a good thing,

    • @MrTVintro
      @MrTVintro 4 месяца назад +1

      @@davidanalyst671 Egypt is attempting it. Brazil failed.

    • @pekonstop6008
      @pekonstop6008 4 месяца назад

      😂😂😂The capital city of the archipelago is the center of government. Meanwhile, there are dozens of administrative and economic support cities in Indonesia as well as small towns. Meanwhile, other countries have failed to move their capital because they are pursuing metropolitan and economic centers.😂

  • @blacksterangel
    @blacksterangel 5 месяцев назад +7

    Yeap, here comes another tax increase. Indonesia's value-added tax and income tax is already among the highest in the world, the currency exchange rate is laughable, and the purchasing power is rock bottom. But hey, at least there's a new gleaming city for the lucky 1% am i right?

  • @ShalahudinShalahudin
    @ShalahudinShalahudin 5 месяцев назад +63

    Anda menampilkan gambar gambar lama supaya terkesan nusantara akan mangkrak dan gagal,sungguh berita hoax yang menyesatkan

    • @AgusSetiawan-vx3zy
      @AgusSetiawan-vx3zy 5 месяцев назад +12

      Biasa bro propaganda barat biar investor takut masuk itumah

    • @apanyakau2776
      @apanyakau2776 5 месяцев назад +10

      HAHA EMANG YANG ASLI NYA UDAH SELESAI? DASAR KAUM ALERGI FAKTA 😂

    • @arifprasetyo2906
      @arifprasetyo2906 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@apanyakau2776 dsar kadrun sekutu barat

    • @Samsung8805-iz1hg
      @Samsung8805-iz1hg 5 месяцев назад +1

      tentunya video ini udah dibuat lama..

    • @ridwanpangaribuan3163
      @ridwanpangaribuan3163 5 месяцев назад

      Sekarang lihat lah..gedung tinggi udah banyak di bangun,satu lagi istana presiden udah hampir rampung,di video ini kayak masih hutan​@@apanyakau2776

  • @haripurwantoui
    @haripurwantoui 4 месяца назад +9

    I am Indonesian, I believe our new capital city Nusantara is a phenomenal success and we will be a Developed Country by 2045 😊

    • @xianyingx
      @xianyingx 4 месяца назад +1

      Semoga aja.. 😂

    • @No_Picture9o9
      @No_Picture9o9 4 месяца назад

      Golden Indonesian twenty forty-five 😮😮

    • @IIjz
      @IIjz 4 месяца назад +3

      In your funniest dream 😂

  • @Dokemsy
    @Dokemsy 4 месяца назад

    most of the footage in the video was taken 2 years ago. WSJ has to spend more on using updated footage or they dud this intentionally?

  • @valentinorossi7771
    @valentinorossi7771 5 месяцев назад +12

    Who and how many want to invest in that very corrupt country? Corruption Perception Index (CPI) figure shows where Indonesia stands.

    • @FirstNameLastName-wd8gn
      @FirstNameLastName-wd8gn 4 месяца назад

      We're actually honest here and see corruption as corruption instead of calling it "lobbying".

    • @IIjz
      @IIjz 4 месяца назад

      Absolutely there will be no investors to invest in this project. Good luck to indonesian citizens to pay more taxes

  • @SitiAisyahUmrah
    @SitiAisyahUmrah 4 месяца назад +9

    I'm so proud to be Indonesian 🥰🥰🥰

  • @TheRustyLM
    @TheRustyLM 5 месяцев назад +1

    3:25 20 men to lay a partch of concrete goes a ways to explain cost overruns.

  • @azimmaksum7290
    @azimmaksum7290 4 месяца назад +3

    Im from Sabah, Malaysia. Building a new capital for Indonesia is a great moves. Hope they will be road connected to the Borneo part of Malaysia, like Sabah and Sarawak.

    • @Onion_Knights
      @Onion_Knights 4 месяца назад

      it will be bad, if something happen there, they will cross our border like what is happening in few countries. just hope all goes well for them.if not, its going to be bad.

    • @Nelson__Mandela
      @Nelson__Mandela 4 месяца назад

      Thanks to Indonesia's corrupt government, that mega road project will be completed in 2145

  • @shaqisumari304
    @shaqisumari304 5 месяцев назад +4

    It takes time and long period of time, Putrajaya takes more than 20 years to start picking up

  • @mikir.lagideh
    @mikir.lagideh 4 месяца назад +1

    Do you consider the situation when Jakarta's sink and all government buildings have to be removed promptly after the raised sea level? It will be more costly than USD 33 Bn.

    • @COMPLAINS_NOT_CHANGE_ANYTHING
      @COMPLAINS_NOT_CHANGE_ANYTHING 4 месяца назад

      And not forgotten Jakarta sitting very close to earthquake fault
      It's like if USA capital was either San Francisco or Los Angeles which very close to San Andreas fault which definitely bad idea for capital city located on near earthquake fault

  • @dannyben0
    @dannyben0 5 месяцев назад +4

    They should have modernised the other big cities in Java instead of spending gigantic budget to a new capital. Jakarta compared to other hub cities have a huge gap in many aspects.

    • @bruh-ni1fy
      @bruh-ni1fy 4 месяца назад

      Java again Java again.... Did you know there is an entire rest of the country outside Java?

    • @flafiijelii
      @flafiijelii 4 месяца назад

      Said by javanese ppl who never went across the land

  • @BuIna-u2f
    @BuIna-u2f 5 месяцев назад +11

    Mereka bilang deforestasi, singapura aja dulu nya hutan, dan Jakarta juga dulu nya hutan sebelum menjadi kota, kalimat pembodohan menjelekan pembangunan infrastruktur Indonesia supaya negara Indonesia buruk ini nanti di mata dunia, semua kota di dunia ini juga dulu nya hutan yang di deforestasi menjadi kota tiap tiap negara di dunia

    • @DiazConnell
      @DiazConnell 5 месяцев назад +1

      Agak kecewa dengan narasinua seolah olah IKN jelek

  • @babangmuara.9161
    @babangmuara.9161 4 месяца назад +1

    Karena jakarta udah padat, wajib Indonesia mindah ibukota nya ke lahan yg msih luas untuk dibngun..😍🇮🇩

  • @imajulianuel
    @imajulianuel 4 месяца назад +5

    Indonesia human development index is below Silverback Gorila.
    Im sick of Indonesian government.

    • @alexandre_wijaya
      @alexandre_wijaya 4 месяца назад

      No, that's your human development index. Indonesia's HDI is actually above average.

    • @IIjz
      @IIjz 4 месяца назад

      ​@@alexandre_wijayait's below

  • @jengoh3826
    @jengoh3826 5 месяцев назад +2

    Are there actually jobs in the new capital city to sustain the population?

    • @Fraiture15
      @Fraiture15 4 месяца назад

      Who knows, investors are pulling out.

  • @bodoslama3567
    @bodoslama3567 4 месяца назад +1

    6:29 This is Istanbul, not Indonesia. By the way, I support Indonesia, western media always tries to denigrate projects in the Middle East, Africa and Asia..

  • @its_not_the_Ishu
    @its_not_the_Ishu 4 месяца назад +6

    Indonesia can do it ..Here in India too alll of newer outskirts of delhi are super modern ..Love from India🇮🇳.....

    • @marnomarno543
      @marnomarno543 4 месяца назад +1

      can not compare indonesian to indian... much different hehehe...

    • @abumahput5408
      @abumahput5408 4 месяца назад

      11 12 ❤

  • @RedStone576
    @RedStone576 4 месяца назад +4

    nusantara be thinking they could replace jakarta 💀, once a capital will always be a capital

  • @apdrie
    @apdrie 2 месяца назад +1

    I read somewhere on the internet that the purpose of the new capital city is "not to free Jakarta from the capital's problem, but to free the capital from Jakarta's problems (bukan untuk membebaskan Jakarta dari permasalahan ibukota, namun membebaskan ibu kota dari permasalahan Jakarta)."
    While it definitely makes sense, Jakarta will still have all of its problems.

  • @antonycarles1499
    @antonycarles1499 5 месяцев назад +4

    Cutting down forests and having spent so much money but there is still no clarity on the fate of this new capital. This shows the absence of a thorough plan. The center of government could actually be moved to PIK 2 island where the costs would definitely be cheaper and there would be no need to destroy forests in Borneo

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s better to expand your literacy and understanding before making inaccurate comments. Not all of Kalimantan is forested; it’s a stereotype when you don’t delve into the details. The island of Borneo is divided among three countries: Indonesia, Malaysia, and Brunei Darussalam. Specifically, Indonesian Kalimantan has quite advanced and developing industrial areas, as well as rapidly growing cities. Our new capital city is situated between two major cities, Balikpapan and Samarinda. On the other hand, the forested areas are protected and will not be destroyed, as our capital city is built on industrial eucalyptus plantations, not natural forests.

    • @wiry7428
      @wiry7428 4 месяца назад +1

      @@zzeroemissions3364 What a naive thoughts. With the new capital, soon the forested area of Kalimantan and its indigenous people will be perished. The capital will grow, and with habits of mismanagement like in Jakarta, soon the corruption and devastation will engulf Kalimantan. Haven't you heard that floods are getting more and more frequent in East Kalimantan since the development of the New Capital? Probably you have heard, but chose to cherrypick the facts

  • @ahmadindra2108
    @ahmadindra2108 5 месяцев назад +19

    we dont support this Capital City PRROJECT. It makes us suffer. All that money should be used in another project that gives direct benefit to us Indonesian citizen

    • @narutokhun
      @narutokhun 5 месяцев назад +7

      we?????????
      how are you?🤣

    • @ahmadindra2108
      @ahmadindra2108 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@narutokhun ya kami yg akal dan logikanya masih sehat dan waras. Tidak seperti mereka

    • @narutokhun
      @narutokhun 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@ahmadindra2108
      kalau mau sepurna dan adil di akherat,semua ada +-nya,kalau cuman mbacot dan nyari kesalah mah mudah
      ntar aja kalau udah jadi,dan merasakan manfaatnya baru pada kicep,kayak jalan tol dulu,sekarang mana ada yang mbacot jalan tol

    • @ahmadindra2108
      @ahmadindra2108 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@narutokhun mengisi perut rakyat lapar lebih penting daripada membangun gedung2 yg megah yg bahkan terlalu berlebihan hanya utk mencatatkan nama di sejarah. Bangunan yg dibangun diatas penderitaan rakyat namanya. Harga2 barang yg terjangkau lebih berfaedah terhaap rakyat, pendidikan dan lapangan pekerjaan yg mudah lebih diharapkan masyarakat. Keuntungan terhadap masyarakat luas lebih utama daripada keuntungan yg besar bagi segelintir pihak.

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@ahmadindra2108 oioioi, ente mikirrr, ekonomi negara ini 60% nya hanya berasal dari Jawa ditambah dgn populasi 57% jumlah penduduk indonesia tinggal dipulau Jawa! enta tau? pulau provinsi diluar jawa menempati pdb terendah dan termiskin dibanding jawa..? Pulau Jawa dengan luas yang taksebanding dgn jumlah penduduk, dan masuk kateogri Pulau terpadat didunia. kalau cuma mikir dri segi masih luas bro berarti literasi & wawasan perlu diupdate, pokoknya inti masalah pulau jawa tidak aman dari segi keamanan & lingkngan alam, dgn Pulau Jawa memiliki banyak gunung berapi aktif sebagai zona "Cincin Api Pasifik" , itu membuat tektonik yang mengelilingi Samudra Pasifik, di mana banyak gempa bumi dan aktivitas vulkanik paling membahayakan dibanding pulau lain diluar pulau jawa/zona ring of fire seperti Kalimantan, ini baru yg paling cocok untuk permukiman manusia,, apalagi yg namanya ibukota negara.

  • @Abyss-Will
    @Abyss-Will 4 месяца назад +1

    Will Brazil managed to move its capital although I have no idea how well it's worked.

  • @SaretGnasoh
    @SaretGnasoh 4 месяца назад +3

    You western think for short term, we eastern think for long term.

  • @alexlong3714
    @alexlong3714 5 месяцев назад +8

    Nusantara was a geographical name for a place that mostly comprised of most of Indonesia's territory today. The name was used by ancient kingdoms in Java island, including the Majapahit Empire which is the largest empire in Southeast Asia's history. The name was later adopted for the new capital city of Indonesia.3 Mar 2024

    • @mapk1516
      @mapk1516 4 месяца назад

      But there's also a case that the name 'Nusantara' did not originate from Java, but rather from East Kalimantan itself. Nusantara was the original name of Kutai before the area was named Kutai, which later developed into the Kutai Kertanegara Kingdom, established in the 14th century. This view was put forward by Samarinda historian Muhammad Sarip. He explained that the name 'Nusantara' itself is influenced by Sanskrit (a language from India). However, the word 'nusantara' has become a place name (toponym) for the area in eastern Kalimantan which was later named Kutai, namely before the Kutai Kertanegara Kingdom was established in 1300 AD and lasted for centuries after (compare with the existence of Majapahit 1293-1527 AD).

  • @pepengsemarang7666
    @pepengsemarang7666 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lets Go Nusantara ❤, Lets Go Indonesia 🇲🇨

  • @MithunOnTheNet
    @MithunOnTheNet 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'm from Kerala, India. When I see the landscape at 4:43, I am reminded of the biggest news story out of Kerala right now. A entire hillside village was wiped out after a massive landslide (due to incessant rains) killing over 300 (so far). People go into forest hills, build homes, and over time due to rains and floods, the soil begins to loosen causing landslides.

    • @WarzoneOfficial22789
      @WarzoneOfficial22789 5 месяцев назад +5

      Bukit tertinggi di IKN NUSANTARA tidak lebih dari 30 meter dan setiap bangunan yang ada dibangun dengan menggunakan pondasi bor dalam dengan kedalaman 20-30 meter. So.. Bayanganmu tentang tragedi dinegaramu tidak akan pernah terjadi di NUSANTARA. Lagian kualitas konstruksi di Indonesia jauh lebih bagus dibanding di India. 😂 😂

    • @Roboto-chan_1402
      @Roboto-chan_1402 5 месяцев назад

      I am working with a team at the moment based in India; two of them based in Kerala. They told me they had been to the very spot of where the catastrophe happened and that it used to be a beautiful place. It was heartbreaking to hear about the tea growing communities being impacted so badly. I hope you and your family are okay.

    • @schawalmalique2264
      @schawalmalique2264 5 месяцев назад

      @@WarzoneOfficial22789 Berita pada Maret 2024 banjir bro, dampak padanya pada warga, apa-apa pun ianya terlalu baru bro. Jangan pernah ngomong tidak akan pernah terjadi di NUSANTARA atau meremeh kualitas konstruksi. Sekitanya belaku, akan tetap belaku..pray for Good IKN...

    • @WarzoneOfficial22789
      @WarzoneOfficial22789 5 месяцев назад

      @@schawalmalique2264 banjir yg kena cuma satu kelurahan.. Itupun jauh dari pusat IKN.. Lagian curah hujan memang tinggi. Para enjiner yg bangun IKN sudah pasti lebih pandai daripada elu.. 😂 😂

    • @schawalmalique2264
      @schawalmalique2264 5 месяцев назад

      @@WarzoneOfficial22789 dude di singapore aja bisa bnjir, enjiner cuma prediksi aja tapi di lapangan beda... makanya pemerentah harus peka, agar dampak tidak ke masyarat/ lurahan...

  • @Blublu25
    @Blublu25 5 месяцев назад +33

    Ayo beritakan yang buruk buruk, dan cari celah biar gagal proyeknya itu kan biasanya keinginan bangsa barat??😂😂 terus bahas kekurangan dan dampak negatif nya😂😂 dan untuk kemajuan indonesia negeri kami tercinta dan ga ada pihak manapun yang bisa menggagalkannya.

    • @Blublu25
      @Blublu25 5 месяцев назад +9

      Tolong ramaikan ini biar semua orng indo yg dateng ke sini melek terutama si botak di vidio dia orang luar tapi bisa berbicara banyak😂😂 ga ada negara maju yg mau melihat negara berkembang maju juga😂😂

    • @ChristianYoga
      @ChristianYoga 5 месяцев назад +10

      Pembahasan di sini masih berimbang. Justru tidak masalah, agar kita sebagai warga negara Indonesia bisa menjadi kontrol agar pemerintah bisa dalam jalur yang benar.
      Tidak perlu dijadikan narasi anti-negara.
      Lagipula, banyak concern di sini yang juga disampaikan media lokal juga.

    • @l.light_9
      @l.light_9 5 месяцев назад

      ❤​@@ChristianYoga

  • @hrettbollis2464
    @hrettbollis2464 4 месяца назад +2

    I live in jkt and let me tell you there’s a ton in this video that’s off base. For one, Prabowo has already said he will continue the plan full stop and was even elected with Jokowi’s son as his running mate.
    While it’s true that there’s rumors of the government leaving jkt to escape grass roots movements, the movements in question are Islamist conservative. They are a very destabilizing and have made concerted efforts to exert pressure which far outweighs their popularity. The election of Prabowo was actually a referendum on this movement since their candidate (Anies) far underperformed and got low single digit % votes from non Muslims.

  • @pinkgangsta6157
    @pinkgangsta6157 4 месяца назад +3

    Please pray for Indonesian people. We have to work hard to pay tax, everything become expensive, to make our government greedy ambition dream become true. 😢

    • @TasMan-r2g
      @TasMan-r2g 4 месяца назад

      Dih lebay

    • @pinkgangsta6157
      @pinkgangsta6157 4 месяца назад

      @@TasMan-r2g harus lebay lah pajak semua naik 🥴

    • @iftea7
      @iftea7 4 месяца назад

      Praying doesn't work. Go lobby.

    • @auron7361
      @auron7361 3 месяца назад

      Babuu

  • @hvglaser
    @hvglaser 5 месяцев назад +21

    This kind of top-down planning always end up hurting the poorest.

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 4 месяца назад +2

      no it doesn't you believe too much propaganda. Thats what they say about highways, oh they always hurt the poorest the most. Because the poorest don't want to go anywhere fast.

    • @에티카-z5r
      @에티카-z5r 4 месяца назад +2

      @@davidanalyst671 it' a different opinion, not a propaganda...

    • @chawza8402
      @chawza8402 4 месяца назад

      to be fair, no cares about the forest anyway,
      if we care, that forest should still be a jungle, not a monoplant farm

  • @Danji_Coppersmoke
    @Danji_Coppersmoke 2 месяца назад

    I could not find any city plan (transit route/station,etc.) anywhere on the internet. Does anyone know if there is any drawing for the city plan?

  • @tonyng1600
    @tonyng1600 5 месяцев назад +4

    why do people continue to build a "great city" in the middle of no where, it never works. even if you build the greatest city, but there is no population, if there is no population base how do you grow from that? like they just expect the first wave of people will just move to a empty city without any supporting infustructure, where they get job? where to get food? if they are the first wave that means there is no existing job market, no existing food market, transportation. they should find a mid size city in a great spot and improve from that or build it next to a mid size city

    • @esashaik1372
      @esashaik1372 5 месяцев назад +2

      Every city was built in the middle of nowhere .

    • @indrapratama7668
      @indrapratama7668 4 месяца назад +1

      @@esashaik1372
      "Every city was built in the middle of nowhere ."
      Yes, every city was built in the middle of nowhere, but from the bottom up, not top down like IKN. Every city is usually initially built as a temporary personal settlement, then developed into a permanent settlement, then into a neighborhood, then into a municipality, then into a village, then into a city. Every city started small in an organic fashion, while IKN started big in a very very _very_ artificial fashion. Top down planning almost always fail. In the long run, organic systems are more robust and usually beats artificial ones.

  • @fansdesyno1
    @fansdesyno1 5 месяцев назад +6

    Jokowi's ego project, when with the same amount of money we can develop more cities throughout Indonesia. The strangest thing about this project is that the EIA came out first, and the research was done later. And for your information, the authorities arbitrarily shifted the zero point of the capital that had been researched by McKinsey because they were influenced by the words of a shaman. The failure of this project is the best thing I can hope for.

    • @indrapratama7668
      @indrapratama7668 4 месяца назад

      The whole project is the worst example of a top-down planning. Failure is inherent in a top-down planning like this. At the core, IKN is an artificial city, not an organic one like Jakarta and virtually all cities in Indonesia. It has many things in common with Arab Saudi's The Line. The failure to understand what makes an organic system more robust than an artificial system is the biggest failure in mega projects like this.

  • @AsepSupriyanto-f4u
    @AsepSupriyanto-f4u 4 месяца назад

    Amazing Project, Smart City & Green Citi, So Beautyfull City😍

  • @unitedstatesoffugu
    @unitedstatesoffugu 5 месяцев назад +8

    Can someone please explain to me how it is environmentally friendly to build a huge city on top of thousands of hills, so that it's residents will pretty much depend on motorised means of transportation, levelling out some of those hill resulting in tons of fuel to be used for landscaping alone, deforesting vast areas and choosing a location which predestines air traffic as the sole method for the rest of the country to get there quickly.
    It's good that Indonesia starts to de-centralise with this project but stop the greenwashing please.

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +5

      It’s better to expand your literacy and understanding before making inaccurate comments. Not all of Kalimantan is forested; it’s a stereotype when you don’t delve into the details. The island of Borneo is divided among three countries: Indonesia, Malaysia, and Brunei Darussalam. Specifically, Indonesian Kalimantan has quite advanced and developing industrial areas, as well as rapidly growing cities. Our new capital city is situated between two major cities, Balikpapan and Samarinda. On the other hand, the forested areas are protected and will not be destroyed, as our capital city is built on industrial eucalyptus plantations, not natural forests.

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +1

      Once again, our new capital city is designed with the concept of a 'green city,' and not all hills will be flattened, as hills are an integral part of our city’s design. Additionally, it's important to clarify that motor vehicles or subsidized vehicles will not be allowed to pass through the IKN capital city. This is in line with the city’s concept and the presidential regulation prohibiting subsidized vehicles starting from 2030 (or sooner).

    • @unitedstatesoffugu
      @unitedstatesoffugu 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@zzeroemissions3364 Sweetie, why so pressed? You just have to look once at the satellite images to see: Those plantations are also full of palm trees and sometimes, construction did reach into natural forests as well.
      "Not all of Kalimantan is forested; it’s a stereotype when you don’t delve into the details. The island of Borneo is divided among three countries: Indonesia, Malaysia, and Brunei Darussalam. Specifically, Indonesian Kalimantan has quite advanced and developing industrial areas, as well as rapidly growing cities."
      First of all, I know of the three countries on Borneo Island. Why do you think I wouldn't know that? Stop that foolishness. It's embarrassing. You've never met me. And would you bring that up anyway? Malaysia or Brunei Darussalam have literally nothing to do with this project, because it is the new Indonesian capital. That's right, Indonesian capital, not theirs.
      The hills and mountains of Kalimantan were in fact very much forested - until humans decided to cut or burn the natural forests down to make room for plantations or other economic projects. That's a fact. The decrease of natural forested areas on Kalimantan in the recent past are well documented, google it.
      Good bye. Live your life with your one-sided views :)
      "and not all hills will be flattened" oh and congratulations for repeating exactly what I said. If you know one thing about constructions, you'd know that moving around soil is an extremely energy consuming division of it. That's also one of the reason why battery-run vehicles aren't necessarily better for our environment as they are depended on components sourced from mining. If you want to have clean means of transportation in cities, you have to implement just three things: pedestrian friendly, cyclists friendly, very good network of public transport. It's actually a very easy recipe. But I doubt that the hills of Nusantara will be inviting to walk or cycle for a few km while communiting to work. But we will see about that.

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@unitedstatesoffugu I apologize if there were any words in my comment that were incorrect or possibly offensive, as I am using translation tools to comment. Your comments are also automatically translated into Indonesian, so I am trying to comment in Indonesian which will then be auto-translated into English on RUclips

    • @zzeroemissions3364
      @zzeroemissions3364 5 месяцев назад +1

      And please understand that while there are indeed forested areas affected by the construction, these areas are primarily focused on the development of highways, main roads, and other access routes to IKN. Afterward, these areas will be reforested. Any development will have some environmental impact, but that does not mean this project is indifferent to the damage caused. In fact, it is a positive aspect, as the city's concept includes green spaces and reforestation programs mandated by the President. Moreover, any human-made development will inevitably have an impact. If we only look at Kalimantan without considering its own damaged areas due to development, it would be hypocritical. The reality is that human populations are growing, and land is becoming more expensive. Therefore, relocating the capital is the right step to balance the economy across our country with its hundreds of islands separated by oceans. Additionally, Kalimantan, specifically East Kalimantan, is the most suitable central location for the capital, as Java houses 60% of our population and is poorly integrated due to its location across islands. Furthermore, Java is dangerous as it is in the red zone of the Pacific Ring of Fire, making it unsuitable for future human habitation due to rising sea levels, active volcanoes, and declining land surface.