My major gripe about what I've seen of Bridge Commander is that phasers and other beam weapons are far too weak overall. In TNG we see the Enterprise-D's phasers absolutely pulverize things except when plot armor demands it, and the polaron beams were equally savage in DS9.
I was wondering if you could multi-target but you answered my question on that. Absolute carnage with the Defiant's. Not surprised the F took them out as quickly as they did. I love how it can fire as many of its phasers as that. That was a close call with you being in the Defiant. I agree the victor goes to the F for sure.
I love the stance and size and look of the Ent F.. too bad.. Seven wasn't the Captain of that ship and to make a series with it.. would be PROPER.. just saying.. as you said gonna cloak, I could see Dylan's face grinning lol. 😨gosh Admiral. wow. took out the Ent F. gosh.. and nice job with the cloak.. You said you would try anything to succeed with the cloak and you did nicely done!!!😊🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming Yes.. I would say so too. leave it at Ent F and start the new show.. lol yes.. eeh when even I hear '' Cloak'' I know Dylan with jump on that lol. 😂🖖
From the first time I saw the enterprise F I always thought about how I'd refit it. My ideal refit would be simple adding 2 defiant ships into the gap next to the deflector. I'd have the defiant integrated into the F's systems so they could be controlled while mounted. However they could detach to provide extra support. This would make the F incredibly powerful in my opinion because it could pull power from 3 different warp cores in addition to having 2 extra ships that are far stronger than regular shuttles or runabouts
That would be incredible! I think that would be doable. The Enterprise F does have a small craft at the back of the ship. Why not two upfront. The shared warp core idea is neat. 🖖
Dont forget the DS9 episode "Defiant" where a near miss from two quantums and a direct hit by another two was enough to cripple a Keldon class cruiser.
An Odyssey class should have a pair of pulse phaser cannons in the leading edge of the saucer. And if an option, launch the Aquarius to draw some fire and harass.
Greetings. Love the starship battles. I don't have this programs but love watching someone that does and knows how to use them. I don't know if this is the platform for requests, but thought I'd try. Maybe you have done this and I missed it. What about two ships exactly the same going at it. Enterprise A against Enterprise A, or D against D, or E or H? The two ships are perfectly evenly matched. Nobody has the advantage of having a Kirk, a Scotty or a LaForge because both would have them. Would the two ships pound each other to a stalemate? Would it come down to tactics? Or sneakiness? If you wanted to add some spice, two E's against two E's or some of the others. Would two gang up on one? Would there even be a winner? Keep up the great work.
Is there a mod where the Defiant can use the "nose"-weapon? 2:01 Well, you'd need to build a ship out of neutronium based on what they say about how quantum torpedoes might not be able to destroy it. (DS9: To The Death)
The difference between photon and quantum torpedoes is photon torpedoes is a detonation of antimatter while quantum torpedoes is detonation of the 0 point energy vacuum in theory there's no upper limit to how powerful a quantum torpedo can be.
Why are the Defiants moving about as fast as a wounded freighter? They're just sitting there as if stuck in pudding. Just one Defiant took out that Klingon dreadnaught in the mirror universe.
Hi I have just started playing Warhammer 40k and been reading the books and I think there ships are very tough and I would like to see how the hell against like the Borg I do not know if you can get Warhammer ships on here would like to see it if you can
I have yet to see any treatment of the Defiant class that actually showcases the maneuverability and actual punchiness on demand of the cannons. All these mods have the ship move about like cows in molasses and sit around unable to fire because of empty capacitators. The as seen Defiant loops around the Lakota, winds effortlessly around Negh'Vars, and fires dozens of pulses non-stop.
I wonder if anyone collects all of the missed torpedoes, after a space battle? I mean, think about how many there are, out there just flying through space, an antimatter weapon cruising at a speed of 0.86c...😮
Why wouldn't they have anti-torpedo phasers/lasers? Just powerful enough to destroy incoming projectiles? Seems like that'd be pretty standard I dunno.
why didn't you launch the escort vehicle in the back of the Odysey??? Its there for ship defense and offense. Major aspect of its combat abilities was ignored. Its a mini defiant basically.
I always feel like the defiant is not used properly? And it's not and criticism on you. If I remember correctly, it was designed Overwhelm opponent at close range and then haul ass Out of the opponent's weapons range. The 3 should be acting like a Wolf pack shooting in getting away while the other 2 wait for their runs or attack from all sides Doing zoom and boom
The Defiant is also an escort vessel trying to outgun a capital ship. It just doesn't work that way. It's like 1000 mosquitos constantly biting you until the Malaria or blood loss finally does you in.
Would it be possible for you to take the Defiant that Sci Fi King made, and just halve its shield power? The weapons are far more accurate on that version and it just generally feels more like the Defiant. The issue with this version is that the pulse phasers move slowly in a weird arc that tracks the target, and once you’ve fired a volley, you’re then stuck firing one pulse every 3 seconds, which the Defiant has never done on screen. That version is definitely too strong, but its weapons are good, it’s just got about double the shielding it should have
Isn't this scenario the forward torpedo sled was designed for? This last-ditch weapon would target an opponent with superior defensive capabilities who can't be dispatched with typical tactics and weapons.
This video is just the standard game with Star Trek Bridge Commander Legacy Installed. I also have Kobayshimaru on another install and Bridge Commander Remastered on another. They are the 3 main ones. 🖖
Before I watch... the F is like an upgraded Sovereign. However, 3 Defiants?! If they use the proper tactics, they would rip it apart. Edit: I also need to give it to the F. That thing is a flying battleship.
The Defiant is much too strong, either in-universe or in game. It could be super quick, maneuverable and pack a lot of armor and weapon power for its small size, perfect for fast hit and run tactics. but the sheer mass and volume difference to a big cruiser like the galaxy class (and even more the odyssey of course) should mean the bigger ship has as least ten or more times the power reserves from a much bigger warp core, and with that absolutely insane amounts of phaser power available against the limited shield strength of a much smaller ship. there should be no comparision once the initial few salvos of quantum torpedoes (again, small size, not much space to store) of the defiant have run dry and pulse phasers need to recharge. i mean look at the size of the phaser arrays on the primary hull of the odyssey and galaxy class, this weapon system as a complete package probably has a comparable mass and volume to a whole defiant class. in a prolonged combat it would rip through that small ship like a hot knife through butter.
voyager was not a galaxy class ship. he's making up stuff as he go's? the last KNOWN she named enterprise was the 1701E.. with the three engine's and spinal beam thing
My major gripe about what I've seen of Bridge Commander is that phasers and other beam weapons are far too weak overall. In TNG we see the Enterprise-D's phasers absolutely pulverize things except when plot armor demands it, and the polaron beams were equally savage in DS9.
Right? That's my issue as well.
Was thinking the same. It ends up in torpedoes being way too important to the fight.
Generally I got the impression from the shows that phasers were equally important in a fight
Yeah, four phaser beams from a giant ship should rip through a defiant’s shields
the polarons were only savage in the beginning because shields couldn't stop them.
Ive always wanted to see the defiant work using wolf pack tactics.
5:09 Enterprise F firing 6 phasers at the same time, that's insane.
It's literally a melt beam
I was wondering if you could multi-target but you answered my question on that.
Absolute carnage with the Defiant's. Not surprised the F took them out as quickly as they did. I love how it can fire as many of its phasers as that.
That was a close call with you being in the Defiant.
I agree the victor goes to the F for sure.
I really like this version of the F. It feels more realistic. 🖖
I love the stance and size and look of the Ent F.. too bad.. Seven wasn't the Captain of that ship and to make a series with it.. would be PROPER.. just saying.. as you said gonna cloak, I could see Dylan's face grinning lol. 😨gosh Admiral. wow. took out the Ent F. gosh.. and nice job with the cloak.. You said you would try anything to succeed with the cloak and you did nicely done!!!😊🖖
That would have been neat if they'd just left it at the Enterprise F. HAHA, the cloak Is a double edged sword! Thanks Steve 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming Yes.. I would say so too. leave it at Ent F and start the new show.. lol yes.. eeh when even I hear '' Cloak'' I know Dylan with jump on that lol. 😂🖖
From the first time I saw the enterprise F I always thought about how I'd refit it. My ideal refit would be simple adding 2 defiant ships into the gap next to the deflector. I'd have the defiant integrated into the F's systems so they could be controlled while mounted. However they could detach to provide extra support. This would make the F incredibly powerful in my opinion because it could pull power from 3 different warp cores in addition to having 2 extra ships that are far stronger than regular shuttles or runabouts
That would be incredible! I think that would be doable. The Enterprise F does have a small craft at the back of the ship. Why not two upfront. The shared warp core idea is neat. 🖖
Oooof Captain's Prerogative! Ty for the video and LLAP!
Dont forget the DS9 episode "Defiant" where a near miss from two quantums and a direct hit by another two was enough to cripple a Keldon class cruiser.
Phasers are a big yes! Single Quants are a no though. Great vid!
An Odyssey class should have a pair of pulse phaser cannons in the leading edge of the saucer. And if an option, launch the Aquarius to draw some fire and harass.
It would be fun if the Odyssey class could deploy the Aquarius.
that little ship can still hold it's own with a heavy cruiser of a couple generations ahead of its time.... that says a lot...
Greetings. Love the starship battles. I don't have this programs but love watching someone that does and knows how to use them. I don't know if this is the platform for requests, but thought I'd try. Maybe you have done this and I missed it. What about two ships exactly the same going at it. Enterprise A against Enterprise A, or D against D, or E or H? The two ships are perfectly evenly matched. Nobody has the advantage of having a Kirk, a Scotty or a LaForge because both would have them. Would the two ships pound each other to a stalemate? Would it come down to tactics? Or sneakiness? If you wanted to add some spice, two E's against two E's or some of the others. Would two gang up on one? Would there even be a winner? Keep up the great work.
Is there a mod where the Defiant can use the "nose"-weapon?
2:01 Well, you'd need to build a ship out of neutronium based on what they say about how quantum torpedoes might not be able to destroy it. (DS9: To The Death)
Not that I know of. That would be so neat to see 🖖
The Defiant is criminally underrated
The difference between photon and quantum torpedoes is photon torpedoes is a detonation of antimatter while quantum torpedoes is detonation of the 0 point energy vacuum in theory there's no upper limit to how powerful a quantum torpedo can be.
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Why are the Defiants moving about as fast as a wounded freighter? They're just sitting there as if stuck in pudding.
Just one Defiant took out that Klingon dreadnaught in the mirror universe.
1:58 that's right. Just ask Mr Worf!
Hi I have just started playing Warhammer 40k and been reading the books and I think there ships are very tough and I would like to see how the hell against like the Borg I do not know if you can get Warhammer ships on here would like to see it if you can
Where’s the early 25th century Defiant class ship, why has no one updated it ?
I have yet to see any treatment of the Defiant class that actually showcases the maneuverability and actual punchiness on demand of the cannons. All these mods have the ship move about like cows in molasses and sit around unable to fire because of empty capacitators. The as seen Defiant loops around the Lakota, winds effortlessly around Negh'Vars, and fires dozens of pulses non-stop.
I wonder if anyone collects all of the missed torpedoes, after a space battle? I mean, think about how many there are, out there just flying through space, an antimatter weapon cruising at a speed of 0.86c...😮
Why wouldn't they have anti-torpedo phasers/lasers? Just powerful enough to destroy incoming projectiles? Seems like that'd be pretty standard I dunno.
RBG: I'm struggling to do significant damage.
Two minutes later: Enterprise F explodes😂🖖
#Retro-Badger-Gaming. What about a Hive ship Vs a Borg Cube
I wiished some how the enterprise f could haf been in a movie just once more than a cameo on pivard
why didn't you launch the escort vehicle in the back of the Odysey??? Its there for ship defense and offense. Major aspect of its combat abilities was ignored. Its a mini defiant basically.
It's not modded into the game sadly 🖖
I always feel like the defiant is not used properly? And it's not and criticism on you. If I remember correctly, it was designed Overwhelm opponent at close range and then haul ass Out of the opponent's weapons range. The 3 should be acting like a Wolf pack shooting in getting away while the other 2 wait for their runs or attack from all sides Doing zoom and boom
The Defiant is also an escort vessel trying to outgun a capital ship. It just doesn't work that way. It's like 1000 mosquitos constantly biting you until the Malaria or blood loss finally does you in.
So where does one get the Legacy mod?
Ah, found your older video...Nexus Mods
Glad you found it. Sorry I can't post links, RUclips won't allow it. 🖖
That was technically unfair of ya.. lmao.. I do want to see the Enterprise D Vs. The Enterprise F
Would it be possible for you to take the Defiant that Sci Fi King made, and just halve its shield power?
The weapons are far more accurate on that version and it just generally feels more like the Defiant. The issue with this version is that the pulse phasers move slowly in a weird arc that tracks the target, and once you’ve fired a volley, you’re then stuck firing one pulse every 3 seconds, which the Defiant has never done on screen.
That version is definitely too strong, but its weapons are good, it’s just got about double the shielding it should have
remember that time the enterprise e destroyed a borg sphere with only 4 quantum torpedoes ... ... ...
Isn't this scenario the forward torpedo sled was designed for? This last-ditch weapon would target an opponent with superior defensive capabilities who can't be dispatched with typical tactics and weapons.
Totally! A last ditch attempt. It's not modelled into the game though. 🖖
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I've just downloaded bridge commander, but only see 5 federation ships🤷
Where all the rest??
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What are the names of the mods you have installed?
This video is just the standard game with Star Trek Bridge Commander Legacy Installed. I also have Kobayshimaru on another install and Bridge Commander Remastered on another. They are the 3 main ones. 🖖
Before I watch... the F is like an upgraded Sovereign. However, 3 Defiants?! If they use the proper tactics, they would rip it apart.
Edit: I also need to give it to the F. That thing is a flying battleship.
The Advanced Quantum's really helped!
Wouldn't have stood a chance against three Dominion Bugs. 😉
Boom
The Defiant is much too strong, either in-universe or in game. It could be super quick, maneuverable and pack a lot of armor and weapon power for its small size, perfect for fast hit and run tactics. but the sheer mass and volume difference to a big cruiser like the galaxy class (and even more the odyssey of course) should mean the bigger ship has as least ten or more times the power reserves from a much bigger warp core, and with that absolutely insane amounts of phaser power available against the limited shield strength of a much smaller ship. there should be no comparision once the initial few salvos of quantum torpedoes (again, small size, not much space to store) of the defiant have run dry and pulse phasers need to recharge. i mean look at the size of the phaser arrays on the primary hull of the odyssey and galaxy class, this weapon system as a complete package probably has a comparable mass and volume to a whole defiant class. in a prolonged combat it would rip through that small ship like a hot knife through butter.
Problem is that AI in this game just cannot use the ships weapons properly and most of the time just flies around.
Agree. They act as just projectiles versus self guided weapons.
there is no Enterprise F until Berman says so
voyager was not a galaxy class ship. he's making up stuff as he go's? the last KNOWN she named enterprise was the 1701E.. with the three engine's and spinal beam thing
I know there's the human factor, but I still find it somewhat underwhelming that the F could be taken out by 3 ships much smaller and older than it
This is the F I mean RBG 😉🙃
Try spinning. That's a good trick. ...sorry, wrong franchise. Perhaps try Ludacris speed? Lol
Music during a space battle? That's for watching, not participating. That's crap.
Once again AI sucks ass.