I don't disagree on their attempt to be more "luxurious", but again - we don't have much to choose from in AU. If we had, say, Geely, the competition between Chinese brands would look more interesting....
Please, i would appreciate the review from the cars you said slready had 100000 km on so that we can learn if it has long term problems or not since in South Africa we havent had it for a long time...
Looks like the topic is gaining momentum on my channel, so yes I'll likely translate some extra insights into Tiggo 7 from overseas. Unfortunately, I foresee that the sales on it here in AU won't be amazing due to the higher pricing than one would reasonably see value at with Chinese vehicles these days.
@ValueCarsAU thank you so much. I know a lot of people would really appreciate this as well. In South Africa, the prices are really, really good, to a point where people are starting to question whether or not there's a catch with these prices or not. In my opinion, I don't believe that there's a catch. Our country is part of a joint venture type of deal with China since they are key members of BRICS. That is why the taxes aren't as bad when having to bring and make these cars here rather than maybe in Europe. That's what I think.
I've had my Ultimate model in the Mecurial Grey for just over a week. Very smooth drive and every drive gets better and better. Amazing tech and very luxurious interior for the money. The DMS "Driver Monitoring System" can be disabled as it says in the Manual but the option is missing on mine. I am going to bring it up at my 1000km inspection. Hopefully it's just a simple software upgrade.
Let us know how you go with the software upgrade. I don't think you can disable it *permanently*. You can only turn it off every time after restarting the car. But I'd be happy to be wrong on this point.
@@ValueCarsAUwell on mine the option isn't even there to toggle on or off but in the Manual it states the option should be there. I'll post an update soon.
Chery have sold over 20K vehicles since returning to South Africa. Now 5th highest sellers in the country. The lane assist is a mandatory requirement for manufacturers and you switch it off at your own risk. In an accident your insurance, in some countries may not cover you if it is switched off. So blame legislation and not the car companies.
I don't really care who makes this decision, but simply comment from a driver's perspective - those systems are annoying, especially if they are poorly/cheaply tuned. I have one in my new Subaru. So far it feels great. Insurance won't cover you if you switched those systems off? Barbaric.
i saw one of these recently, my impression was it is made nice and shiny but in a few months maybe years the quality of the interior is just going to disintegrate. I'm not into electric vs analog but you explained this well in the video and you can live with it i suppose. Ergonomics for controls were ok. Being tall i felt the car pretty uncomfortable, no tilt or adjustment for the steering wheel, thats a first in a long time... it did feel pretty good spacewise in the back but so do many brands these days. i did like its "compact-ish" feel, from the outside. I think you are correct with the brand's pricing strategy but i think its a bad decision, i see that pricetag and i just think it is waaaay overpriced or what you get or i dont have any special particular reason to go for this vs others (you say they are nice people what about after sales services???) - if the brand wasnt novel and the styling so unusual i wouldnt have bothered to even look
Completely agree with your summary (and that's what more or less the Russian channels are saying too... shiny at first, higher quality of life, etc, not made to last - especially under severe weather conditions).
They have a very different market and expected longevity of the car - we have a very different car usage and exchange/trade-in pattern... Wait for my next video.
Hard to believe Chery axed telescoping steering wheel from the right hand drive 7 pro. Like my 8 pro max has tilt and telescoping steering wheel. And lhd 7 pro does as well.
Yeah it's weird. Lots of weird cost-saving cuts, even though the car was headed to a much more generally prosperous market. It's a case of them saving $100 on construction of the vehicle and losing the whole sale as a lot of people would have picked a different car entirely.
I disagree with your "price represents buyer perception of Chinese vehicles". The Chinese proposition is one of value and the past few years had lolled the Chinese manufacturers into falsely thinking otherwise. The Tiggo is coming close to Honda pricing which is nuts. The value proposition is gone so why would you buy one? Resale value tells you that these vehicles are now overpriced in this post Covid world and unless the Chinese realise this they are doomed to be overrun by the rest of the market as sanity is gradually restored with regards to supply. You can see that the Chinese manufacturers are taking a different approach with their EVs in the sense they are working hard to maintain that value proposition and are dominating the market as a result. Perhaps they no longer care about the ICE market and are just offering cars to fill gaps in their range whilst their main focus is on pushing EVs as hard as they can. Really the last 2 paragraphs can be condensed into the simple statement of," Nope, too expensive"
Lol we don't disagree mate - you misunderstood what I was saying (or I said it badly). I'm saying that this pricing represents their attempt to employ this aggressive tactic to swing for the fences and tell others "we're expensive = we're just as good!" I applaud them for being bold in a market where you kinda have to either be "cheap", or you have to swing for the fences and then MAYBE win (somewhere). I absolutely agree with you (and said it in many other videos) that Chinese are getting dangerously close to Japanese etc underestimating "legacy" perception and behavioural economics of an average Aussie Oi-Oi consumer. Tiggo 7 sales are going to tank.
I feel like Australian based reviewers don't actually review Chinese manufactured cars but rather critic them and highlight any flaw they can find.. it's expensive for a Chinese manufacturer.. wait what?
Maybe take a look at the content on my channel - rather than a single video that you chose to defend because you sell Chery, or own one - and then comment? Just a thought.
yes much too expensive - I decided against the 7 Pro as I was upset that they bought in the model with the cheap fake looking plastic (in front of the passenger seat) instead of the model they get in (right hand drive) South Africa that has beautiful (fake) leather right across the dashboard
Glad someone else agrees with me as I caught a lot of flak (from Chery dealers, no doubt) honestly translating a Russian owner's review where he slammed the quality of it overall too.
As an Iranian who saw clearly what happened to my country thanks to Chinese leveraging and their industry getting in, I would like to ask you guys to think twice before purchasing a product which is basically a Chinese government product.
Do you stop to leave your politically infused messages on reviews of ANY Chinese product? You must spend a lot of time doing this, wow... Good luck on your crusade. This is your only warning on my channel, next message is going to get you banned as you violated community guidelines.
Find this brand more luxurious than other Chinese cars
I don't disagree on their attempt to be more "luxurious", but again - we don't have much to choose from in AU. If we had, say, Geely, the competition between Chinese brands would look more interesting....
picking my one up on Wednesday. Red with black roof. Mid range model. Appreciate your review.
Hope it works out well for you mate, do share your longer term experience once you've had a chance to own it for a bit!
@@ValueCarsAU Will do mate. 🙏🙏
Picked up Tiggo 7 then steering wheel does pull forwards and backwards in addition to up down. so far so good.
@@Anonymous_Shadow911How you finding it after a week? I've had mine for 3 weeks and love it.
Please, i would appreciate the review from the cars you said slready had 100000 km on so that we can learn if it has long term problems or not since in South Africa we havent had it for a long time...
Looks like the topic is gaining momentum on my channel, so yes I'll likely translate some extra insights into Tiggo 7 from overseas. Unfortunately, I foresee that the sales on it here in AU won't be amazing due to the higher pricing than one would reasonably see value at with Chinese vehicles these days.
@ValueCarsAU thank you so much. I know a lot of people would really appreciate this as well. In South Africa, the prices are really, really good, to a point where people are starting to question whether or not there's a catch with these prices or not. In my opinion, I don't believe that there's a catch. Our country is part of a joint venture type of deal with China since they are key members of BRICS. That is why the taxes aren't as bad when having to bring and make these cars here rather than maybe in Europe. That's what I think.
Nice review Demitri, I would like to see a Russian translation from you on 1000 klms and a strip down.
Most likely coming. Thanks mate
I've had my Ultimate model in the Mecurial Grey for just over a week. Very smooth drive and every drive gets better and better. Amazing tech and very luxurious interior for the money.
The DMS "Driver Monitoring System" can be disabled as it says in the Manual but the option is missing on mine. I am going to bring it up at my 1000km inspection. Hopefully it's just a simple software upgrade.
Let us know how you go with the software upgrade. I don't think you can disable it *permanently*. You can only turn it off every time after restarting the car. But I'd be happy to be wrong on this point.
@@ValueCarsAUwell on mine the option isn't even there to toggle on or off but in the Manual it states the option should be there. I'll post an update soon.
Yes, would love to see the disassembly video - thanks mate! Thanks for keeping things real.
Thanks mate, appreciate your interest
Chery have sold over 20K vehicles since returning to South Africa. Now 5th highest sellers in the country. The lane assist is a mandatory requirement for manufacturers and you switch it off at your own risk. In an accident your insurance, in some countries may not cover you if it is switched off. So blame legislation and not the car companies.
I don't really care who makes this decision, but simply comment from a driver's perspective - those systems are annoying, especially if they are poorly/cheaply tuned. I have one in my new Subaru. So far it feels great. Insurance won't cover you if you switched those systems off? Barbaric.
i saw one of these recently, my impression was it is made nice and shiny but in a few months maybe years the quality of the interior is just going to disintegrate. I'm not into electric vs analog but you explained this well in the video and you can live with it i suppose. Ergonomics for controls were ok. Being tall i felt the car pretty uncomfortable, no tilt or adjustment for the steering wheel, thats a first in a long time... it did feel pretty good spacewise in the back but so do many brands these days. i did like its "compact-ish" feel, from the outside. I think you are correct with the brand's pricing strategy but i think its a bad decision, i see that pricetag and i just think it is waaaay overpriced or what you get or i dont have any special particular reason to go for this vs others (you say they are nice people what about after sales services???) - if the brand wasnt novel and the styling so unusual i wouldnt have bothered to even look
Completely agree with your summary (and that's what more or less the Russian channels are saying too... shiny at first, higher quality of life, etc, not made to last - especially under severe weather conditions).
My mind is almost made up that this will be by Xmas present to me…
Oh mate, as long as you're happy, but.... Don't you think it's way too expensive for what it is?
great review mate.they can,t be a bad car, they produce millions of these each year in china,as an aussie there is a lot of brand bias. cheers
They have a very different market and expected longevity of the car - we have a very different car usage and exchange/trade-in pattern... Wait for my next video.
It's called Chirey in South America! Cool car! Cereza
In my opinion, still overpriced for what it is vs Japanese competitors. Needs to be cheaper to be seen as something of value in AU.
how is the fuel consumption for city drive?
No idea, I don't own one. Maybe someone else will comment
I prefer the BAIC Beijing X55
Unfortunately BAIC isn't in Australia (yet?), as I'd be very interested to take a look at it!
Its a sin not to have tilt and reach steering.
A tear down would be interesting ?
I'll see how much interest we get in a teardown, I try and prioritise my work on variety of content these days.
Hard to believe Chery axed telescoping steering wheel from the right hand drive 7 pro.
Like my 8 pro max has tilt and telescoping steering wheel. And lhd 7 pro does as well.
Yeah it's weird. Lots of weird cost-saving cuts, even though the car was headed to a much more generally prosperous market. It's a case of them saving $100 on construction of the vehicle and losing the whole sale as a lot of people would have picked a different car entirely.
I disagree with your "price represents buyer perception of Chinese vehicles". The Chinese proposition is one of value and the past few years had lolled the Chinese manufacturers into falsely thinking otherwise. The Tiggo is coming close to Honda pricing which is nuts. The value proposition is gone so why would you buy one? Resale value tells you that these vehicles are now overpriced in this post Covid world and unless the Chinese realise this they are doomed to be overrun by the rest of the market as sanity is gradually restored with regards to supply.
You can see that the Chinese manufacturers are taking a different approach with their EVs in the sense they are working hard to maintain that value proposition and are dominating the market as a result. Perhaps they no longer care about the ICE market and are just offering cars to fill gaps in their range whilst their main focus is on pushing EVs as hard as they can.
Really the last 2 paragraphs can be condensed into the simple statement of," Nope, too expensive"
Lol we don't disagree mate - you misunderstood what I was saying (or I said it badly). I'm saying that this pricing represents their attempt to employ this aggressive tactic to swing for the fences and tell others "we're expensive = we're just as good!" I applaud them for being bold in a market where you kinda have to either be "cheap", or you have to swing for the fences and then MAYBE win (somewhere). I absolutely agree with you (and said it in many other videos) that Chinese are getting dangerously close to Japanese etc underestimating "legacy" perception and behavioural economics of an average Aussie Oi-Oi consumer. Tiggo 7 sales are going to tank.
What car do you drive?
He's got a Subaru Outback..
Subaru Outback is the most recent purchase. Had a Haval H6 until recent time.
@@ValueCarsAUI see, how much did you buy it for
I feel like Australian based reviewers don't actually review Chinese manufactured cars but rather critic them and highlight any flaw they can find.. it's expensive for a Chinese manufacturer.. wait what?
Maybe take a look at the content on my channel - rather than a single video that you chose to defend because you sell Chery, or own one - and then comment? Just a thought.
When is the your Subaru's review coming?
Friday mate
looks much better omoda 5
Yes it does (but still, way too expensive)
personally thinking it's not a good strategy to open up a market with a price like this. Hope the Chery company could realize. :) @@ValueCarsAU
yes much too expensive - I decided against the 7 Pro as I was upset that they bought in the model with the cheap fake looking plastic (in front of the passenger seat) instead of the model they get in (right hand drive) South Africa that has beautiful (fake) leather right across the dashboard
Glad someone else agrees with me as I caught a lot of flak (from Chery dealers, no doubt) honestly translating a Russian owner's review where he slammed the quality of it overall too.
As an Iranian who saw clearly what happened to my country thanks to Chinese leveraging and their industry getting in, I would like to ask you guys to think twice before purchasing a product which is basically a Chinese government product.
Do you stop to leave your politically infused messages on reviews of ANY Chinese product? You must spend a lot of time doing this, wow... Good luck on your crusade. This is your only warning on my channel, next message is going to get you banned as you violated community guidelines.