@@HardinRacingHPS iron block, 2011+ come with aluminum blocks and need to be sleeved for big power and are super expensive! 2010 has the interior and exterior refresh that the 07-09 don't, and 2010 was last year of a direct linked rack and pinion, 2011+ use electric assist...those are some of the major reasons.
@Twobarpsi good bc I'm never selling my 2010, I used to hate the fact that I didn't have an aluminum block, but I absolutely love this car. I have a 2010 with a 2.3 tvs and 92k miles. Just blew the tranny but I'm putting a RPM built one in it (:
@@justicedavenport6388 5.8 is also way more expensive and really doesnt make that much more power compared to the 5.4 which is a beast in its own right. I think if you wanna throw rods and pistons at it and make 1000 iron block 5.4 is the way to go, its a much cheaper way to get there reliably and costs alot less to replace if you ever need to. The 5.8 block is stupid expensive and you really dont get alot of extra performance from it to justify the extra cost imo. Youre better off building a higher compression iron 5.4 for way less money and make 1000 wheel no problem. I think the 5.8 is great but for the money 5.4>5.8
Wow i have an 07 Shelby with a gen 2r and once i get e85 i'm thinking i'll be pushing the limits ill be comfortable with on a stock bottom end. i'm curious to see how long this lasts at that power level. Amazing results either way.
Got a lightning clone engine I built. Ported heads 230/200 mmr stage 2.5 cams beehive springs factory chains mmr tensioners factory guides. Melling high flow 4v oil pump with mmr forged gear. Mmr 900 rods 7/16 arp bolts with weisco 16cc dished coated skirt pistons thick wall pins cnc plasma rings arp 2000 mains and studs factory forged crank 115lb e85 holly injectors. Soon topped off with a vmp gen 3r going to run 27lbs of boost. Hope I can hit 825 rwhp. That's enough for me. Going in my 65 mustang coupe with a 6r80 power by the hour trans controller
Nah 5.4s suck 5.8 is like so much better...like really....lol JK I own an 07 myself the 5.4 is one of my favorite engines ever and its obviously capable of alot of power lol. The TVS gt500 record was set by a 5.4 also dude made over 1300 whp blower only with this same blower but on a built 11:1 compression 5.4 with ported heads and cams etc. The 5.4 is a beast.
@@michaelharris748 13 HUNDRED HP LOL IT HAD TO BE A BUILT 5.4.LOL I HAVE A 08 GT 500 THAT MAKES 850 HP AND A 07 427 EDITION CONVERTIBLE SUPER SNAKE AND THAT CAR MADE STOCK 650HP AND MY 10 GRABBER BLUE SUPER SNAKE MADE 900 HP AND NO ISSUES NOW GRANTED THAT BOTH SUPER SNAKES HAVE LOW MILES ON THEM AND MY GT 500 HAS ONLY 3 THOUSAND ORIGINAL MILES ALSO I WILL SAY IS I DON'T REALLY BEAT ON THEM OR REALLY PUSH THEM SO IN MY OPINION THE 5.4 IS A GREAT MOTOR.
@@Twobarpsi correct but they do have the same cylinder heads so as far as power capabilities I would say they're pretty much the same. The earlier gt500 07-10 had an iron block while the gt had aluminum like 11-12 gt500 had. The oiling system was different on the gt also.
14 psi on a coyote would be close to 25-28 on these engines they have way less compression its like 8.4:1 stock coyotes are 11:1 and 12:1 depending what year you own. Thats a pretty big difference in compression thats why coyotes make power with alot less boost by comparison its not because the coyote is superior like everyone acts like it is (both are great both make their power different ways)
07-12 gt500s make basically identical power when running the same blower and same supporting mods etc. The 13-14 even makes similar power to the earlier cars once they're all running the same blower. The 5.8 has a tad more torque usually (not like the 5.4 is hurting for torque though lol) and when everything is equal pulley wise the 5.8 will make about 2 psi less than the 5.4 because of the displacement. Itll make the same power at 18 psi as the 5.4 does at 20 psi if everything is equal (blower and supporting mods). Basically all gt500s are close to the same (07-12 is the same, the later cars just started out higher due to better intake and tune stock. Once modded 07-12 is essentially the same thing power making wise (07-10 has iron block 11-12 is aluminum))
So for all those haters of the 5.4 in both of my super snakes that claim the rods can't take a lot of power.Lol THEY CAN.MY 10 900hp Grabber blue super snake put down a touch over 800hp too the tire says I have a lot more.As with my convertible super snake with a TVS Shelby rates them roughly at 635 hp that car has a ton of power in that 5.4 to go.
You have a full liter more displacement with your supercharger too. It would prob take that 3.6 at least 23-24 psi to make the same power so all in all I think the little TVS does pretty good.
I know 30k is pretty low and i think its funny how he said "30k so hes not afraid to drive his shelby" i was thinking whhhaatt?? Lol....30k on a 12 year old car is averaging 2500 miles a year which isnt very much imo lol. Im gonna get one in a year and a half and it isnt gonnna be my daily but when its nice weather im gonna be out in it all the time..id say ill put 5-6k a year in it easily maybe more just depends.
@@09gt500 price, making hp theyre as good (actually a little better) than the aluminum blocks. Iron block can make 1000 wheel reliably with just upgraded rods and pistons 0 mods to the block itself. Theyre just as good or better power potential wise and cost way less if you need to replace one. These reasons are why i think im gonna get an 08-09...ive seen nice ones with low miles in the mid 20s thats a bargain.
Yea with a built motor and a blower that is almost twice the displacement of this one lol. Guys have made 1300+ rwhp on a built 5.4 with this same tvs which is 2.65 liters. Pretty damn impressive to get that kind of power blower only from a blower that can fit under the stock hood and have way less stress on the crank etc.
We are excited to see what time Cody can run at at the track with the Gen3R in his GT500! What ET do you think this car will run with the new setup?!
Easily better then 9.50s or someone needs a auto
Should be in a the high 9’s if it hooks lol
What do I need to to put the vmp3r on a 03 navigator?
It should go low 9's I would think. As long as it hooks and he shifts quick.
Is that stock bottom end
The Condor motors have never stopped being relevant. And now, just bananas! That torque! Gotta find me a ‘10. Black or Kona.
Got me a Triple Black Condor! Love it!!!
My 2010 has a gen2 @ 16lbs of boost and is about to cross 100K miles. It may live forever in its current configuration. :)
Yes! 2010, best year!!
@@Twobarpsi why the best year?
@@HardinRacingHPS iron block, 2011+ come with aluminum blocks and need to be sleeved for big power and are super expensive! 2010 has the interior and exterior refresh that the 07-09 don't, and 2010 was last year of a direct linked rack and pinion, 2011+ use electric assist...those are some of the major reasons.
@Twobarpsi good bc I'm never selling my 2010, I used to hate the fact that I didn't have an aluminum block, but I absolutely love this car. I have a 2010 with a 2.3 tvs and 92k miles. Just blew the tranny but I'm putting a RPM built one in it (:
@@Twobarpsi do you have a 2010?
This is so epic!! This car is goals for my 07GT500! Can’t wait to see some track footage!
925/888
We have been waiting for the 5.4 he he 😍
5.8 better
@@justicedavenport6388 5.8 is also way more expensive and really doesnt make that much more power compared to the 5.4 which is a beast in its own right. I think if you wanna throw rods and pistons at it and make 1000 iron block 5.4 is the way to go, its a much cheaper way to get there reliably and costs alot less to replace if you ever need to. The 5.8 block is stupid expensive and you really dont get alot of extra performance from it to justify the extra cost imo. Youre better off building a higher compression iron 5.4 for way less money and make 1000 wheel no problem. I think the 5.8 is great but for the money 5.4>5.8
WOW!!! great job VMP
Make sure he has 1320 filming it when he blows it up at the track!😂
Wow i have an 07 Shelby with a gen 2r and once i get e85 i'm thinking i'll be pushing the limits ill be comfortable with on a stock bottom end. i'm curious to see how long this lasts at that power level. Amazing results either way.
Wow, I’m over here just wanting longtubes installed on my 19 gt :(. Great car! Love these videos.
I can do it for you for about 1800 bucks
im so excited for more on this car very intrigued on how long it lasts
Got a lightning clone engine I built. Ported heads 230/200 mmr stage 2.5 cams beehive springs factory chains mmr tensioners factory guides. Melling high flow 4v oil pump with mmr forged gear. Mmr 900 rods 7/16 arp bolts with weisco 16cc dished coated skirt pistons thick wall pins cnc plasma rings arp 2000 mains and studs factory forged crank 115lb e85 holly injectors. Soon topped off with a vmp gen 3r going to run 27lbs of boost. Hope I can hit 825 rwhp. That's enough for me. Going in my 65 mustang coupe with a 6r80 power by the hour trans controller
lucian kristov that’s an awesome build it sounds like and should run forever. Good luck to you!
😂😂😂 this makes want a 5.4 GT500 even more.
Nah 5.4s suck 5.8 is like so much better...like really....lol JK I own an 07 myself the 5.4 is one of my favorite engines ever and its obviously capable of alot of power lol. The TVS gt500 record was set by a 5.4 also dude made over 1300 whp blower only with this same blower but on a built 11:1 compression 5.4 with ported heads and cams etc. The 5.4 is a beast.
@@michaelharris748 13 HUNDRED HP LOL IT HAD TO BE A BUILT 5.4.LOL I HAVE A 08 GT 500 THAT MAKES 850 HP AND A 07 427 EDITION CONVERTIBLE SUPER SNAKE AND THAT CAR MADE STOCK 650HP AND MY 10 GRABBER BLUE SUPER SNAKE MADE 900 HP AND NO ISSUES NOW GRANTED THAT BOTH SUPER SNAKES HAVE LOW MILES ON THEM AND MY GT 500 HAS ONLY 3 THOUSAND ORIGINAL MILES ALSO I WILL SAY IS I DON'T REALLY BEAT ON THEM OR REALLY PUSH THEM SO IN MY OPINION THE 5.4 IS A GREAT MOTOR.
But I hope it doesn't blow, good luck with that run
Damn man !! not bad on stock bottom. Gives me some hope.
That is unreal
That is fkn AMAZING!
Insane! I make 700whp on a gen1 with boostane and 93. I need me a gen3r!
Youre out here acting like 700 is a little amount 😂😂
That’s because on a Shelby it is lol!
Steve Brumm what size upper and lower pulley do you run ?
I run a 2.6 upper (2.5/2.4 caused belt slip) and a 10% lower. Been this way for over 40k miles now almost!
Steve Brumm I’m looking to do the same setup as you, how much hp are you making?
5.4 also holds the MILE RUN WORLD RECORD SPEED ... With the Ford GT 5.4 LITER
Not the same engine as the GT500, but I'd call them cousins 👍
@@Twobarpsi correct but they do have the same cylinder heads so as far as power capabilities I would say they're pretty much the same. The earlier gt500 07-10 had an iron block while the gt had aluminum like 11-12 gt500 had. The oiling system was different on the gt also.
I BELIEVE THE RODS ARE DIFFERENT THAT THE FORD GT
Where is the total list of mods on this car?
VMP 🏁🏁🏁💪!!
Justin looks like a dude I knew that had a 3.5 swapped Nissan Sentra lol
Legendary
Is this a challenge? Now i have to beat this record.
Badass
5.4!
Seems like the older iron block cars can handle a little bit more for some reason
Yikes! How long can it last? Hum?
Holy crap, I'm scared running 14psi on my GT...what was that 28 psi lol!!!
jason wieber compression makes it incomparable
14 psi on a coyote would be close to 25-28 on these engines they have way less compression its like 8.4:1 stock coyotes are 11:1 and 12:1 depending what year you own. Thats a pretty big difference in compression thats why coyotes make power with alot less boost by comparison its not because the coyote is superior like everyone acts like it is (both are great both make their power different ways)
what throttle body??? any failsafes? thanks!
VMP 163R is what we would recommend www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-163R-Super-Monoblade-Throttle-Body-for-05-14-GT500-Coyote
Did it mention how many degrees of timing? If it did, i'm sorry I missed it.
27psi and roughly 28 degrees of timing sound right
I think it was more like 22 degrees these motors like less timing to be happy for whatever reason.
Funny how both guys in the video went to a 3.8 whipple.
Funny how one sold their 3.8 and is now going to the vmp 3.1, your kennebell shelby is garbage
@@coastinthrupacks there is nothing wrong with a kenne bell GT500 stop hating bro
Crazy.. Interested to see if this car survived.
The car is out and about racing and running 9's
@@VMPPerformanceTV I am Interested to see what kind of numbers one will put on my truck once I get GT500 midplate adapter. Fully built motor.
Whats The size of pulley
Would an stock 2011 GT500 make same power with Gen 3R?
With the same exact supporting mods it has the potential to.
07-12 gt500s make basically identical power when running the same blower and same supporting mods etc. The 13-14 even makes similar power to the earlier cars once they're all running the same blower. The 5.8 has a tad more torque usually (not like the 5.4 is hurting for torque though lol) and when everything is equal pulley wise the 5.8 will make about 2 psi less than the 5.4 because of the displacement. Itll make the same power at 18 psi as the 5.4 does at 20 psi if everything is equal (blower and supporting mods). Basically all gt500s are close to the same (07-12 is the same, the later cars just started out higher due to better intake and tune stock. Once modded 07-12 is essentially the same thing power making wise (07-10 has iron block 11-12 is aluminum))
So for all those haters of the 5.4 in both of my super snakes that claim the rods can't take a lot of power.Lol THEY CAN.MY 10 900hp Grabber blue super snake put down a touch over 800hp too the tire says I have a lot more.As with my convertible super snake with a TVS Shelby rates them roughly at 635 hp that car has a ton of power in that 5.4 to go.
It’s the RPMs that our motors don’t like ... anything above 6300 maybe 6400 is asking for trouble
Nice
What is "World Horsepower"?
Dam I'm making 801whp and 792tq with my 2011 Gt500 3.6 at just barely 20psi. 27psi???
You have a full liter more displacement with your supercharger too. It would prob take that 3.6 at least 23-24 psi to make the same power so all in all I think the little TVS does pretty good.
That’s insane TQ for the 3.6 any changes in the motor ??
I'm hearing a lot of bad info....😂😂😂
Jesus there’s no miles on that car
I know 30k is pretty low and i think its funny how he said "30k so hes not afraid to drive his shelby" i was thinking whhhaatt?? Lol....30k on a 12 year old car is averaging 2500 miles a year which isnt very much imo lol. Im gonna get one in a year and a half and it isnt gonnna be my daily but when its nice weather im gonna be out in it all the time..id say ill put 5-6k a year in it easily maybe more just depends.
Iron blocks are cheap compared to aluminum lol
What u mean cheap? In price? Or in making horsepower?
Iron blocks are stronger
@@09gt500 price, making hp theyre as good (actually a little better) than the aluminum blocks. Iron block can make 1000 wheel reliably with just upgraded rods and pistons 0 mods to the block itself. Theyre just as good or better power potential wise and cost way less if you need to replace one. These reasons are why i think im gonna get an 08-09...ive seen nice ones with low miles in the mid 20s thats a bargain.
Michael Harris thank you!
Stick with iron!
Wow awesome! Now just put an Auto in it and get rid of that gay stick! 👍
DANTE BELGIAN MALINOIS power by the hours 4r200 auto
☝️
A kennebell makes 1600 hp
Yea with a built motor and a blower that is almost twice the displacement of this one lol. Guys have made 1300+ rwhp on a built 5.4 with this same tvs which is 2.65 liters. Pretty damn impressive to get that kind of power blower only from a blower that can fit under the stock hood and have way less stress on the crank etc.