[REAL ATC] Aircraft INTERCEPTED by a DHS Citation at SUPER BOWL 50!
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"Get a pencil ready, I have some information for you to copy!" YIKES! Not something you wanted to hear. I hope he got off easy.
Probably was not going to give an address to send a Christmas card to him?
Serious question. What exactly is the information being copied down?
@@hello_im_kt this was two years ago that I posted to this, so I had to go back and listen to it again. The RV-6 penetrated a TFR, or Temporary Flight Restriction area. The TFR ran from the surface to 17,999'. I'm not sure what altitude he was at, but I doubt he was at 18,000' or above, since he would have had to been on an IFR flight plan and in contact with an ATC facility.
So, when the controller told him to get a pencil ready, he was in trouble. For one, he busted a TFR, not a good thing to do. So, he's going to have a talk with the FAA, probably at a local FSDO, or Flight Standards District Office. At the least, he probably will be referred back to a flight instructor to get some instruction and maybe a check ride. If he went into the FSDO and said something like 'I forgot there was a game (the Super Bowl, really?) he might have gotten away with a slap on the wrist. With this infraction, though, not monitoring 121.5 and not responding quickly, he's probably going to get more than a slap on the wrist. He might have lost his privileges for a period of time, unlikely he'd lose them permanently, unless something else was going on.
But, pencil and advise ready to copy means a visit with the Feds.
@@GaryMCurran Hi Gary, thank you so much for the informative response. I'm still intrigued why the controller told RV-6 to get a pencil ready. Would't it be more efficient for the controller to directly contact FAA to report the incident? If the controller told RV-6 to write down some information to self report the incident, there is a chance the RV-6 would never report the incident.
@@hello_im_kt Oh, you can believe me when I say the FAA already had all the information at hand. The reason the controller told the pilot was to make sure that the pilot contacted them, and the FAA didn't have to come searching for the pilot. Since the FAA was flying the Citation, they probably had video of the aircraft registration number, and had already looked up the pilot and plane. Anyone can do that by going to the FAA Registry and looking up the 'N-Number' of the aircraft.
No, the reason they told the pilot to get a pencil ready (pilots hate using pens because things change) was so that he could contact the FAA as soon as he got on the ground. Be assured, the FAA was awaiting his call, and if they hadn't heard from him within 24 hours, they would have started enforcement action against him, with might have included pulling his license permanently.
NO PILOT ANYWHERE wants to hear those words, because they know what it means to them.
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The gentleman on the Van's RV-6 at 1:50, what's up with this guy up my left.....too close for comfort.
this citation jet must have a flashing strobe light like a police car.
Maybe a horn? LMAO
Samuel Sann head butt maneuver
Well, now in 2020, ADS-B. Maybe the Feds have something that comes up on your screen Saying 'PULL OVER, this is the FAA!' LOL
Or a siren!
It's really obvious when it's a fighter intercepting, I wonder if they could find a way to slap a couple of missiles onto that Citation lol
I believe a couple of the smaller air forces have done so....@@efeyzee
As a former pilot who flew almost entirely in the flat and mostly laid back Carolinas/Georgia and FLA, I cannot imagine operating along the West coast or the upper east coast/NY area.
"don't fly so close to me" "I would of lost it haha"
I know right? If I was DHS the next words out of my mouth would be "Arming missiles"
I'm such a wiseass. If I'd been in that Citation working the radios and that guy bitches about getting so close to him, I'd be like "And if you would read the NOTAMs, we wouldn't have this problem."
call in a mach 5 ship to Air missle strike from many of the cruiser in the Bay within seconds, or possible classified satellite laser or other technology to take him out ? that citation I packed with front line electronics and WAROPS comp's, don't mess with homeland, its the first and last line of defense ! the RV pilot is an idiot, probably flustered, but his audio responses should have much more clear ! hes lucky HLS did not call in an missle strike.
I agree there was no missile strike. I am sure US Defense had that whole bay area covered top to bottom. It wont take long for a Mach 5 rated ground to air attack and where that plane was at that moment I think we would have seen a nice comet west of San Lorenzo and Union City. Boom.
he reallllly should not of said he knew there was a superbowl going on
no if he knew of the game he should have checked as he was taking off where the flight restrictions were. I don't want to ask what else was around there to observe than Omaha 51.
@@martintheiss7666 Pretty sure the TFR would have been on the current notams. You're supposed to check them.
@@currentbatches6205 This. It always is. Pilot negligence.
@@martintheiss7666 Phat 3, most likely a fighter. Maybe a Navy F18, Air Force F-16 or F-15.
OK, just throwing this out there. But for those that aren't familiar, TFRs are not common for sports games. This is the SuperBowl, and there is a ridiculous amount of added security. Knowing there is a game going on, and putting two and two together that there are flight restrictions in the area, are separate thought processes. But pilots need to always check for TFRs on their flight plan before take off. What is much more likely here, is that the pilot had a different intended course, and accidentally flew into the TFR. At least that is what I would be saying at that point, lol.
He told homeland security to back tf up hahahahahah
I always love seeing these interception videos great work!!!
well someone didnt check the notams haha
Sounded like he intended to overfly the game, but didn't know he couldn't do that? Thought the TFR was much smaller? Who knows.
This entire title sounds like an Airforceproud95 video
so question. how do the commercial flights coming and going out of SFO OAK and SJC deal with the TFR? the outer 32m circle encompasses all 3 major airports. are all these flights precleared? or do the airports put them on different departure and approach patterns. I could see that possibly working for SFO and OAK but SJC is literally about 7ms from Levi's stadium..
Most TFRs are accompanied with some language such as "unless otherwise authorized by ATC"
Most commercial flights would be filing IFR flight plans, have a specific transponder code, and be authorized by ATC to fly a specific route.
Very good question. But the other guy answered it if you’re a pilot and do any kind of preflight weather briefing you’re gonna be told about VF hours and now with the advent of the Internet and smart phones, you can get all the stuff pop right up on your cell phone there’s no reason not to know about this unless you’re just a lazy pilot that doesn’t do a proper preflight.
Just curious if there was a specific reason this tial number got blocked while others get displayed without problems.
80 IQ with a license to fly. What could go wrong.
What the hell would a citation do if he didn't respond?
Might just keep an eye on the traffic, unless he is actually hostile by diving into the Superbowl or making some aggressive maneuvers, then that Phat 3 to take him down. I guess, I have no idea what the procedures are.
Pretty much just watch him. If he's acting aggressive or refusing to comply, there's usually AF fighters on standby for these events, they'd make sure he listened 😆
They have a pair or more of F16's circling over head on call. If he had not responded shortly, he would have had fighter jets making fast passes off his nose.
Fly infront and give him turbulance lol
It's the US. We have the death penalty for violating TFRs, apparently.
Is this the same video, or is it the same plane from the other video?
Can somebody respond this to me... I've always had this question regarding this types of TFRs.
If an aircraft like the R6 is violating that particular airspace and the DHS ir whoever is there escroting decides to shoot them out of the sky.... wouldn't the debris from the falling aircraft put in danger the very same people they're trying to protect?...
Ideally, they'd be shot down over the least populated area, miles away from the stadium. Some debris raining down over houses is better than an entire aircraft ramming full speed into a stadium densely packed with people. With the former, there's a chance that some unlucky pedestrian will be struck by a piece of debris, but with the latter, multiple casualties and injuries are guaranteed. It's all about damage control, and also not letting the terrorist do what they want.
If it was something like and airbus, though... There'd definitely be no happy ending.
Charlie_33 ... the DHS (& FBI / CIA / NSA etc) is not about protection... its about control... Americans can't take a piss without having to get a permit / permission from the government...
"They hate us for our freedoms"
😅😅😅😅
Yeah we should just let planes fly directly into super bowl stadiums, right?
All government is force. A larger government equals more force.
@@weblure Yes, but no. Government approval for killing someone who hasn't broken a law (not a statue or guideline or code but an actual law) is far more dangerous than risking a cesna run into a building.
Lamer is two times biven a bearing but he's all _"Gee you're so close to me"_ and _"Should I follow you out?"_
Doesn't understand "bearing", can't tune radio ... get him on the ground!
I'm interested sir, if there is any penalty for the PIC of an aircraft that penetrates a TFR zone? Also great vid.
It depends. Usually you'll get a 60-90 day suspension or something similar, but they can take away your license if they want. It's all a bunch of nonsense.
+sugershakify I know right...its total bullshit that pilots can receive such hefty punishment for complying with the confrontational military aircraft...
Pyruvate Personage forgive if I'm wrong becuase I'm not a pilot. But wouldn't there be like a NOTAM or something. Don't they check their flight plan or something. I would think that would not be hard to find out. Or am I just blowing smoke up your ass??? I dot know just curious.
+AADFWspotters2 They do have NOTAMS and there is a Map in FAA website with all TFR's he should've known.
The problem is the size of the TFR's change. You'll notice on the map this guy was 30 miles away. People are doing this a LOT. Every time there is any kind of sporting event on or large event or Presidential visit a TFR (temporary flight restriction) is automatically generated. Many people flying miles and miles away and have no idea the Yankees are playing that afternoon, ect, are getting busted. With the internet it is easy to check, but it's just not something most pilots think about as normal leisurely Sunday afternoon flight pre-planning. Check the weather, check the plane, lets go have some fun. Nope. now it's check the weather, check the plane, then check with the Orwellian named Department of Homeland on what areas they have deemed "temporarily un-free for your own good". The American Police State has gotten completely out control.
sounds like someone to old to drive let alone fly
is this a reup? i swear you have already posted this
He posted another video of an intercept that took place that day. It involved a Cessna 152 or 150.
question: if you are receiving vfr flight following do you still need to avoid the tfr area or are you cleared through it since you are talking to atc?
You CAN'T penetrate a TFR without prior permission.
VASAviation - even if you receiving flight following and in contact with ATC?
ahmad samadzai even commercial flights that are on IFR high flight plans still need special clearance to over fly the TFR. Some guy with flight following is definitely not going into a TFR and you're VFR so it's your job as PIC to know the area and avoid the TFR, not ATC. They may worm you but they won't vector you.
Bailey Davis got it. thank you for response.
If your on a VFR flight your basically on your own, and its your responsibility to keep clear. Same with Keeping clear of B airspace and so forth, you need clearance. Doesn't matter if your on Flight following or not. Flight following is in a nutshell for traffic advisories
uhhh scary, a citation
Uhhh scary, a citation with authority to call in two heavily armed F-16’s...
Yep. Look up. Those two small dots that are getting bigger rapidly are fully armed, no-nonsense fighters.
what was the consequence for the pilot? any criminal charge?
Most likely depends on what happened when the pilot called the FAA.
a Citation as an interceptor.. and if there are terrorists, they shoot with a water pistol or the do a loud fart?
The citation is there to make first contact. If the citation cant do it, they have a pair of F-16s near by.
As@@accidentalmeme5327 said, the Pair of F-16 is the callsign PHAT-3 (which I presume was the flight lead at the time) and probably PHAT-4
what kind of information would they give him? Phone number to call and report the incident?
Phone number to call rot discuss the incident. It's pretty much did you know what you did, why did you do it, if it was an accident what would you do to try and prevent it in the future, etc.
Do they get fined or suspended or somesuch like drivers?
A goofball in an RV6. Oblivious. No previous misbehavior? Then just a long lecture about NOTAMS and TFRs. A note in his file at the FAA.
No your license is probably history. We are penetrating the security restricted zone for a major dangerous event that would be of interest to terrorists and non-allied military operations. You might think its just fun and games to stage large scale events of interest but it becomes a police nightmare most of the time. This is one reason why. I feel proud as an American our national treasury is willing to pay a little cash to protect things like this to secure our national icons. You should look it up zero.
I don't know the particulars of this case but perhaps your license is history and one can feel thankful from the other posts on here a 3800 MPH missile was not fired from a standby military warship.
If you comply immediately do you still get in trouble
At the time you get inside the TFR, you're in troubles.
What punishment is there five, suspension, or revoked license?
Chris Kratchman Yes what would be the punishment?
@@chriskratchman6130 If it was accidental and the first incident then it's just some additional training. Multiple incidents and they send you up on a checkride to see if license action is needed. Pretty much the only thing that's an instant revocation is forging documents or other intentional egregious violations.
Is the plane called Omaha 51 because it from from the base just outside Omaha (where I live)?
Omaha is the callsign for CBP Customs aircraft. Nothing to do with Omaha, the place :)
:(...makes since though. If Offutt AFB (the one just outside Omaha in the town I live in was going to patrol an event it would be the college world series which has just happened. Any interesting audio dealing with that (I'm guessing no)?
+VASAviation - is it OK if I use this video for personal use? I'm doing an aviation project.
Hakim Clark
Always mentioning the channel :)
Its just an ID for the plane involved. "Omaha" is just an indication as to the air group it is attached to or what business it has. In this case US Customs Service operates the plane meaning that it engages planes suspected of import taxation or other crimes committed such as drug transport. At this particular moment it was assigned the task to intercept planes that came into the restricted airspace around the Santa Clara stadium so you would not cheerfully fly in and cause damage to said event without being challenged by American terrorism law enforcement first.
What is TFR?
Temporary Flight Restriction.
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What's funny is they have TFRs for the super bowl, or some random ass baseball game at Chase field, But not for the Copa America final, where there were 80,000 people in the stands from all over central and South America and possibly other countries over seas. I could be wrong but I checked and didn't see a tfr.
It's a reactive, blind stab in the dark attempt at security.
But still. It's not a car, u can't just get in and go. Check the damn notams before you fly!!!!
I suspect that soccer is such an international sport that terrorists attacking it would find sympathy for their cause diminished, thus the lessened need for a special air security zone. Killing South and Central Americans is not a wise move.
I agree the incident would be seen as an assault on the American continent as a whole and personally there would be enough western minded defense units to make Desert Storm look like a picnic if the actor was found.
David Hoffman soccer inst football is
Americans don't give a shit about soccer.
+John2891 -- In the US, it's actually the law that there must be a TFR over any event which more than 65,000 people are expected to attend. I don't know where the Copa America final you're talking about was held, but if it was in the US and there wasn't a TFR for it, then someone messed up big time.
What kind of plane is the DHS flying?
Read the title again
@@sidewinderzero got it
Dude is lucky he didn't get a sidewinder up his tail pipe!
0:31 you hide for security (make no difference if we know exact aircraft plate) but in the preview there is the number n4614n on the pic.lol
The picture is the DHS citation bruh
The picture is N***N. Not N***A
Okay the game was on.. But why to divert a plane??? Are VIP where coming in??
This was considered a major event for the pride and honor of American culture. The plane was diverted just in case they were actually going to do something unkind.
+Martin Theiss do you mean like terrorist attack??
The presumption of violating the official TFR restricted zone is either a terroristic or assassination attempt say if a head of government is responsible for a flyover. In lay terms this pilot got close enough to the event facility to be deemed able to launch an attack of some kind with professional equipment on hand.
FAA regs prohibit pilots from operating aircraft within certain distances of stadiums during events. Unless given specific permission to operate within the area.
Yes there is a game going on that day. All pilots should be aware of DHS and FAA alerts and TFR instructions. You have no reason to be on course for San Jose anywhere south of Fairfield. I am half surprised the intercept was not USAF or USNAC fighter jets. I think the feds were nice about this. You will still lose your license for sure most likely?
Guy should have screamed "allahu akbar"
That would have scared the shit out of everyone
Scared them? You mean like raising a pistol to "scare" an officer who already has his sidearm pointed at you? That RV would have been a scorch mark on the ground if he had done that.
All over a stupid game. I mean honestly, who gives a shit about the super bowl? It's all so stupid. The video is certainly interesting though.
Edit: oh wait, this is SB50 that the Broncos won. That's okay then, I like the Broncos
Because there are so many people at the stadium.
All these enormous TFRs are ridiculous. They are a waste of resources and money!
What resources and money are you talking about? They publish a notice. Pilots read it. And they stay away.
hahaA!
This whole TFR crap is just bullshit...
um not really no its actually good
No they're quite bullshit. Cessna won't do crap to a crowded stadium.
Ergzay what? you could crash a cessna nito a crowded stadium and kill hundreds of people, terrorism is basically why we have TFR's
It's the only way to provide adequate security for a given event or location, as the radius allows for a predetermined response time and action by various agencies. It would be complete chaos and totally unsafe if there were no TFR's - I guarantee you something bad would have happened by now at the super bowl alone if it weren't for them.
Uh, 50 gallons of 100LL will do quite a bit of damage to a high density stadium with 90k people in it. Get some assholes to fill it up with some other kind of explosives, and you've got an entirely different ball game (no pun intended) - but yeah you're totally wrong, this is an ideal terrorist target, and TFR's are a great way to provide early warning and situational awareness to DHS and other agencies monitoring suberbowl security.