That moment when CJ is walking away after she says she doesn't work there always awes me. You can actually see the stress and pressure leaving her shoulders as she gets out just in time to keep it from destroying her. You just understand that she doesn’t regret the time she spent there, but isn't looking back either. The final episode is so good for visual storytelling without exposition to explain.
I’m not sure about that. During the transition, President-Elect Santos tries to get a campaign finance bill together which would have eliminated bribery and lobbying. That doesn’t seem Centrist, it seems Progressive.
This always makes me cry. This is how it should be. This is America at her ideological best: issues at the forefront, a tight but fair election, a peaceful transition of power, and a country where any kid like Donna from Wisconsin or Charlie from DC or Toby from New York or CJ from Ohio can mix with Josh from Connecticut and Sam from California and make it all happen. The promise of tomorrow is what we're all about. When tomorrow is uncertain, we are uncertain.
Not to be contentious but...although I appreciated very much the way the series showed the personal side of the story, I thought politically it was appalling. Here you had an entire nationwide election to choose a new administration. And who are all the people around the president and the first lady, those closest to them? The SAME PEOPLE. The same people who had been surrounding the previous president for eight years. To me, this is not the way it should be. A change of administration should bring a thorough house cleaning in the White House, with entirely new staff taking over. Even if the same party which already held the White House for eight years continues in power. Otherwise, what's the point? To me, this episode culminates in showing that there was no real transition of power. It was one side holding on to power, and reinstalling its top people in the White House once again. The whole point of democracy is to provide a way to NOT do that, to provide a peaceful means for changing who is in power, not to provide a means for peacefully keeping the same party in power because, oh, that party are "the good guys"...and the other side is what? Oh yeah, I remember, "deplorables".
I know... I've read the qualifications of the appointments and wonder what if she had won... Nominate qualified people cabinet positions for christ sake! Wondering if the Republican Senastors will push back too.
The hesitant walk for Santos as he enters the Oval Office is nice directing. He's been there before as a Congressman, but now the reality that he'll be sitting behind the desk as POTUS sinks in. Very well done.
There is a really good spy drama mini series set in Australia about the joint US/AUS SigInt station at Pine Gap. In one episode, they reference more than once the US carrier USS Bartlet. Made me smile. Had to be him as they are currently named after presidents. Fitz would have approved.
This serie was my life defining moment, my Shangri-La. Whenever I feel down in the dumps I switch on episodes or scenes of this serie and I am okay again. How I wish it was like this in real life!
CJ has so earned the satisfaction of saying that she doesn't work there. Being Press Secretary was pure stress, and she got to see the Chief of Staff job killing Leo by inches, and finally completely, only to pick it up and carry that burden herself. I think she had to realize that if she had taken Santos offer, it would have wrecked her.
I wish that she had said she used to work there, and it was the most amazing time of her life. She had the chance to inspire a child, and she (the writers) blew it.
Sometimes a series leaves with a whimper. Sometimes there was no conclusion at all. The West Wing left with a feeling that you wished there was a continuation.
That moment when "Donatella" realized the office was actually hers....I always think she went back in time in her Rolodex of Memories and remembered that one night she stood in The Oval Office and told her English Teacher Mrs. Marella that it was because of her that She was standing in there! ❤ And now, Donatella was standing in her own Office in The White House too!
I get Teri Polo being wowed, but Donna did work in the White House for 8 years... even if she never had occasion to go to the First Lady's Chief of Staff's offoce she should have a reasonable idea based on Leo's and other offices to set expectations
@@patrickcarey2715West Wing offices are much smaller than East Wing offices, because that part of the building is older. Also, in the storyline, the suite being used was just renovated and not the one Abbey Bartlet used.
Watching this on my train ride home; maybe I should just rewatch this for the next 4 years. Harris would have created a new tomorrow not perfect with hope for the future. Now we just have to relive another 4 year nightmare.
@@stevena.2306Man do y'all ever stop exaggerating? Wahhh orange man bad. Everything was fine last time, in fact it was way better than the last 4 years.
I just can't watch much of it. Not because it follows an administration that apparently cares, has a clue, makes mistakes, corrects some fails on others and generally does the best they can. Nope, I can't watch because that means somewhere out there, sight unseen is a large population of voters who actually care, who actually pay attention, that votes for a candidate not on sound bites and hatred. Makes me wish I lived in a country like that. I don't.
Great ending, but every time I watch, I can't help but feel like Jed would/should have answered "...what's next". That was literally his catchphrase for the entire series and what he said when he was ready to move on. I think it would have been the perfect final words.
I think this is a good storytelling impulse but it's clear they had decided to use that phrase to signal the passing of the torch. Giving it to Santos in the oval. And using that moment to both look to the past (and recognize Spencer) while also ending on the hopeful note of looking to the future is really fitting. Ending with optimism for, tomorrow.
President Santos saying “what’s next” Is the changing of the guard and Jed saying “tomorrow” means for me “I do hope to see many many many tomorrows” Long live TWW
Some were brilliantly written and made back then. Some are brilliantly written and made today. Most aren't, either today or back then. But we forget about those very quickly.
Not just that they were well written, but they did over 20 episodes in a season. Now you're lucky to get 10 and even then you wonder why. (I had been trying to binge watch The Flash but on season 7 it seems really pointless. It's like the story keeps repeating and repeating. Not the same with the West Wing. And like this last episodes, we learned what it is like to experience a transition.
Some things are better left to fiction, because then we can escape to it whenever we want, as many times as we like. If The West Wing were the reality, we’d only have the experience once.
As a Brit, I was entranced by the whole programme, all of it. I've got the whole shebang on CDs or maybe Blu-ray, I can't remember. I haven't even got anything to play them on at present. Happy days. How things should be in America, except... Oh well, better days may come after the next 4 years have passed.
When I see CJ tell the dad and son she doesn’t work at The White House, my mind goes back to Oliver Babish telling her to only answer the question she’s asked when he prepares her to be deposed in the aftermath of the MS revelation!
In the first episode, the vast majority of it was spent talking about the president, but not seeing them until the final scene. It ir revealed he injures himself and his health becomes the underlying regular theme to the show. Here in the final scene of the final episode it concludes with the president, but closure is found for tomorrow for him.
There were two napkins, according to the props team on the show. Aaron Sorkin was given one, and Tommy Schlamme the other. (Source: the West Wing Weekly podcast)
It's odd how C.J., as the just former WH Chief of Staff and who probably knew more things than the former Vice-President, could just walk out unescorted. I would think that would be a security risk. After all, Harry Truman didn't even know about the Manhattan Project until after FDR had died, but FDR's CoS certainly would have been aware of it.
Nah, the line "What's next?" signalled his life of ultimate, constant professional *readiness*. Problem-solving. Decision-making. Now, now, now. Being "a human starting gun". Saying "tomorrow", with its implication of no-hurry, of having time, means he's finally a civilian. So having it as Bartlett's last line would have been a bit of tricksey TV writing. False.
Just wondering how will President Biden go home to Delaware? It’s not really that far that he would fly in Airforce One! Speaking of AF1, it’s now very likely that President DTrump will be the first to use one of the new AF1 B747-8i, who would have thought it!
Just a random thought, but Jimmy Smits was also in the prequels. That's interesting timing. Being a president in one universe and a senator in the other.
I think Bartlett would always see that napkin as embodying everything about his Presidency, good and bad. I think, though, he'd always remember that it cost Leo his marriage and ultimately his life.
It was larger. Some of the offices in other parts of the White House were not divided up over the years, and are quite large. Even Bartlet complained that Babbish's office was larger than the oval.
I can only imagine the note Drumpf left for Biden - although it would not surprise me if he didn't leave a note - and then imagining the note Biden will leave for stupid Drumpf.
I wish I had the power to sit the current president-elect down and make him watch this entire series so he would know, for once, how it's supposed to be done.
More room in the East wing! But I agree it's a nice contrast especially given the relationship between Josh and Donna in the last few episode and how he offers her Deputy PressSec
That was so common during the show (I remember how shocked I was when I saw what they did for the Democratic Convention in Season 5 - all the tricks they had to use.)
They had to do the doey-eyed wonder moment, but are we really expected to believe that Donna never had to visit the First Lady's Chief of Staff's office in all of her 8 years working there?
@@wonder528 That was Dr Bartlet's Chief of Staff's office all throughout the show. The fact that it would now be Donna's wouldn't be a surprise if she had visited her predecessor even once.
The staffer says this is a completely different suite of offices than those used by Mrs. Bartlet, so Donna would not know whom any of the offices belonged to. This clip starts after he mentions it, when he's showing Annabeth her office as the First Lady's press secretary.
@Gredddfe It's the office Santos was using as president-elect. Could it be the actual office set they used for Mrs. Bartlet way back? Maybe, they often reused stuff, I'd have to watch the episode.
It's nice to see how a mere senator from a relatively small planet managed to work his way up to becoming the president of the united states. Jokes aside, I really wish that last line from Bartlett was different. Tomorrow is nicely compelling, sure, but "What's next" would have been far better. It suits his character, it fits the same thing, but it's also a callback to how he was at the very beginning of his campaign, and with a forlorn delivery, could have been read as him thinking about what's next because for the first time in eight years.... there's really nothing to Know about in terms of what's next. No one's giving him a schedule, he doesn't have to spend all day in meetings, you could really nail home the fact that he really just... doesn't know what's next.
Always thought it a bit unrealistic that that Dad wouldn't recognise CJ, given it was frequently emphasised how she was the visible face of the administration.
The shot at 2:07 is the first time I think they showed the real West Wing in The West Wing. Lots of shots of the Residence, of course, but rarely if ever of the West Wing.
@@catrionacolville2192 1:36 shows the North entrance of the West Wing. and yes, could be true they never shot on location, i dont know. scenes at the gates occured a lot though, but those were probably not shot on location either
Can someone tell me how Donna didn't know which office was the First Lady's and which was the FL's Chief of Staff? I mean did she never visit Amy's office?
I am disturbed by the incumbent's characterization of the Executive Mansion as a pig-pen. That wasn't Trump, that was JFK. Elitists have been historically ruinous.
I'm just going to say it. I kind of wish Vinnick would have won. How the writers would have handled that transition would have been fascinating and I know it would have been quality.
I'm sure you know this, but that is how it was originally written. When John Spencer died, they changed the outcome. I guess it just seemed too sad the other way.
This was supposed to be Biden and Kamala, too bad we have a country of idiots. Or as I’ve now chosen to call them Consenting Low Information People, or CLIPs for short
She probably never thought about it. The guy did say the First Lady's office was being restored so Donna thought it belonged to Mrs Santos. Easy mistake.
I love this episode so much, I mean I love them all. But I also think its a bit of a dick move for her not to answer a tourists question especially with his little girl there with him.
I would be fine with Vinick as president. He was a man of integrity and he loved his country, unlike those with zero integrity who love only themselves.
That moment when CJ is walking away after she says she doesn't work there always awes me. You can actually see the stress and pressure leaving her shoulders as she gets out just in time to keep it from destroying her. You just understand that she doesn’t regret the time she spent there, but isn't looking back either. The final episode is so good for visual storytelling without exposition to explain.
Honestly I could’ve EASILY watched another 7 seasons of this show with the staff assembled for the Santos administration.
The President we all wish we had.
He's a Centrist, that's the last thing we need.
@@carlousmagus5387and a convicted sex offender is?
I’m not sure about that. During the transition, President-Elect Santos tries to get a campaign finance bill together which would have eliminated bribery and lobbying. That doesn’t seem Centrist, it seems Progressive.
@@carlousmagus5387 Why is that a bad thing. I would certainly like to have a president in office that will compromise and work across the isle.
Which one, Bartlett, the preachy out of touch professor or the nut from California?
This always makes me cry. This is how it should be. This is America at her ideological best: issues at the forefront, a tight but fair election, a peaceful transition of power, and a country where any kid like Donna from Wisconsin or Charlie from DC or Toby from New York or CJ from Ohio can mix with Josh from Connecticut and Sam from California and make it all happen. The promise of tomorrow is what we're all about. When tomorrow is uncertain, we are uncertain.
...and with the beginning of yet another US involved forever war.
I prefer the REAL President you will soon have..who wants NO MORE WARS.
and now you have the complete opposite
Not to be contentious but...although I appreciated very much the way the series showed the personal side of the story, I thought politically it was appalling. Here you had an entire nationwide election to choose a new administration. And who are all the people around the president and the first lady, those closest to them? The SAME PEOPLE. The same people who had been surrounding the previous president for eight years. To me, this is not the way it should be. A change of administration should bring a thorough house cleaning in the White House, with entirely new staff taking over. Even if the same party which already held the White House for eight years continues in power. Otherwise, what's the point? To me, this episode culminates in showing that there was no real transition of power. It was one side holding on to power, and reinstalling its top people in the White House once again. The whole point of democracy is to provide a way to NOT do that, to provide a peaceful means for changing who is in power, not to provide a means for peacefully keeping the same party in power because, oh, that party are "the good guys"...and the other side is what? Oh yeah, I remember, "deplorables".
I'll be re-watching this series multiple times for therapy over the next 4 years...
I may resubscribe to HBO for the same reason.
It kind of helped the first time.
I know... I've read the qualifications of the appointments and wonder what if she had won... Nominate qualified people cabinet positions for christ sake! Wondering if the Republican Senastors will push back too.
Well you made your bed now you have to live with it
As a former Democrat I rewatched this before voting for Trump. So sad to see what the party has become
If only we could live on this planet😢
Agree
You do
100
It's the Democrat arrogance like in this show is why Trump won
Well you made you bed America now you have to live with it
The hesitant walk for Santos as he enters the Oval Office is nice directing. He's been there before as a Congressman, but now the reality that he'll be sitting behind the desk as POTUS sinks in. Very well done.
This series is THE best TV ever made!!
The tears in my eyes as I realise I was going to re-hear Martin Sheen as Jed Bartlet say "Tomorrow"
Yes a great closing scene!
For me it’s seeing the “Bartlett for America” napkin.
There is a really good spy drama mini series set in Australia about the joint US/AUS SigInt station at Pine Gap. In one episode, they reference more than once the US carrier USS Bartlet. Made me smile. Had to be him as they are currently named after presidents. Fitz would have approved.
If my memory serves me, the representative from New Hampshire who signed the Declaration of Independence was Josiah Bartlett
Aren't the ships named after dead presidents? That means in their TL, MS finally won and Jed Bartlett was honored by his nation for his service.
@@AndyVillegas-fk3kgThank you for sharing this.
@@arthurbriand2175 the USS Reagan was commissioned before President Reagan died, same goes for the George H.W. Bush and the Carl Vinson.
This serie was my life defining moment, my Shangri-La. Whenever I feel down in the dumps I switch on episodes or scenes of this serie and I am okay again. How I wish it was like this in real life!
Used to be for me too. Lately it just feels depressing. Too far removed from reality to be enjoyable
CJ has so earned the satisfaction of saying that she doesn't work there. Being Press Secretary was pure stress, and she got to see the Chief of Staff job killing Leo by inches, and finally completely, only to pick it up and carry that burden herself. I think she had to realize that if she had taken Santos offer, it would have wrecked her.
I wish that she had said she used to work there, and it was the most amazing time of her life. She had the chance to inspire a child, and she (the writers) blew it.
@@99beowulf99 I think 7 seasons of CJ would inspire anyone, she deserves closure on her terms.
How did he not recognize her
Sometimes a series leaves with a whimper. Sometimes there was no conclusion at all. The West Wing left with a feeling that you wished there was a continuation.
Best start to a series, Best end to a series....and everything in the middle was fantastic as well.
That moment when "Donatella" realized the office was actually hers....I always think she went back in time in her Rolodex of Memories and remembered that one night she stood in The Oval Office and told her English Teacher Mrs. Marella that it was because of her that She was standing in there! ❤ And now, Donatella was standing in her own Office in The White House too!
Every time I see that scene I find myself thinking 'Good for you, Donna'
@@ldkellandshaw Exactly! 👋
You just triggered a memory that brought a tear to this old mans eye.
I get Teri Polo being wowed, but Donna did work in the White House for 8 years... even if she never had occasion to go to the First Lady's Chief of Staff's offoce she should have a reasonable idea based on Leo's and other offices to set expectations
@@patrickcarey2715West Wing offices are much smaller than East Wing offices, because that part of the building is older. Also, in the storyline, the suite being used was just renovated and not the one Abbey Bartlet used.
When President Santos said "What's next?", brilliant! When President Bartlett said "Tomorrow!", brilliant!
I don't think I can watch this show the same way, ever again.
- a heartbroken American
Watching this on my train ride home; maybe I should just rewatch this for the next 4 years. Harris would have created a new tomorrow not perfect with hope for the future. Now we just have to relive another 4 year nightmare.
its dystopian
It was a fantasy - beautiful, but still that.
@@stevena.2306Man do y'all ever stop exaggerating? Wahhh orange man bad. Everything was fine last time, in fact it was way better than the last 4 years.
Even as a non-American these last couple of scenes do make an impression. Maybe distance makes it harder to understand the results of Nov5.
"Tomorrow." Still gives me chills. Best line in the entire series. Maybe one of the best in all of television.
*Decent people at the White House, what a dream.*
I'm rewatching the whole series again. It's my emotional support TV Show.
Same
Mine too!
I just can't watch much of it. Not because it follows an administration that apparently cares, has a clue, makes mistakes, corrects some fails on others and generally does the best they can. Nope, I can't watch because that means somewhere out there, sight unseen is a large population of voters who actually care, who actually pay attention, that votes for a candidate not on sound bites and hatred. Makes me wish I lived in a country like that. I don't.
Great ending, but every time I watch, I can't help but feel like Jed would/should have answered "...what's next". That was literally his catchphrase for the entire series and what he said when he was ready to move on. I think it would have been the perfect final words.
I think this is a good storytelling impulse but it's clear they had decided to use that phrase to signal the passing of the torch. Giving it to Santos in the oval.
And using that moment to both look to the past (and recognize Spencer) while also ending on the hopeful note of looking to the future is really fitting. Ending with optimism for, tomorrow.
President Santos saying “what’s next”
Is the changing of the guard and Jed saying “tomorrow” means for me “I do hope to see many many many tomorrows”
Long live TWW
A time when America was founded on hope, not hate.
You’re the haters. I know it’s a shock, but it’s true.
True. The last four years have fostered hate and celebrated hate.
You did it admin! You got the end of the series - thank you for sharing such awesome West Wing moments with us!
I wish this series could go on forever!
Back when TV series were brilliantly written and made.
Some were brilliantly written and made back then. Some are brilliantly written and made today. Most aren't, either today or back then. But we forget about those very quickly.
Not just that they were well written, but they did over 20 episodes in a season. Now you're lucky to get 10 and even then you wonder why. (I had been trying to binge watch The Flash but on season 7 it seems really pointless. It's like the story keeps repeating and repeating. Not the same with the West Wing. And like this last episodes, we learned what it is like to experience a transition.
Ever feel…. Wish…. Want this to be the reality?
Feel a binge watch coming on on a regular prescription!
Some things are better left to fiction, because then we can escape to it whenever we want, as many times as we like. If The West Wing were the reality, we’d only have the experience once.
@@SamaritanPrimeGood point.
As a Brit, I was entranced by the whole programme, all of it. I've got the whole shebang on CDs or maybe Blu-ray, I can't remember. I haven't even got anything to play them on at present.
Happy days. How things should be in America, except...
Oh well, better days may come after the next 4 years have passed.
I don't think America will ever recover from the next 4 years. There won't be a "fair" election ever again.
At least we aren't jailing people for twitter posts.
Look to your own house first.
A fine ending to a great, great show.
I think it's about time we got to see "what's next."
Donna finally has an office, and it's bigger than what Josh has.
Well they didn’t stick him back in his office from the rest of the series lol he’s probably in Leo’s office.
@@Joseph-lj4sp Exactly he’s got Leo’s office
I wish they had gone on.. without question some of the best TV ever
When I see CJ tell the dad and son she doesn’t work at The White House, my mind goes back to Oliver Babish telling her to only answer the question she’s asked when he prepares her to be deposed in the aftermath of the MS revelation!
I, too, will be watching this wonderful hopeful series over and over during the coming assault on our democracy by the lunatics about to take over
😢😢😢😢😢 now you know how we felt for the past 4 years, get over it you pathetic little troll.
The lunatics are leaving office.
😢😢😢😢😢😥
That has to be the most well crafted ending in the history of television.
There are two: this, and M*A*S*H.
0:20 "TED! TEEED! Come check out the First Lady's Chief of Staff's Office!"
Im sorry i have to quit again
In the first episode, the vast majority of it was spent talking about the president, but not seeing them until the final scene. It ir revealed he injures himself and his health becomes the underlying regular theme to the show. Here in the final scene of the final episode it concludes with the president, but closure is found for tomorrow for him.
I miss TV shows that made me feel something. Regardless of party if this clip doesn't make you feel something you aren't paying attention.
Always will be my President.
This show always gave me hope. Going to rally need a lot of that over the next 47 months, 20 days 8 hours and some odd seconds...
My God! The look on his face when he sits down in THAT chair for the first time. 🥹 The Power. The responsibility.
How spoiled I was to think that this was the America I lived in.. not.. whatever this is now.
Yep
Tomorrow is going to be better.
1:51 lmao CJ is *done* no more question answering for her
Just ordered the Bluray series.
"You work at The White House?"
"No. No, I'm sorry, I don't."
Donna's office is larger than the Oval Office, not to mention that of Leo/Josh.. Being located outside of the west Wing has its perks.
That seems larger than Leo’s office!
This last line should have been 'What's next' as a statement rather than a question.
I can hear it; that would have been ...interesting.
I wonder if someone from the show kept the "Bartlet for America" napkin.
There were two napkins, according to the props team on the show. Aaron Sorkin was given one, and Tommy Schlamme the other. (Source: the West Wing Weekly podcast)
@@PlasticAstronaut They should have given one to Martin Sheen.
And that White House real estate agent then became the greatest fanboy accountant in Pawnee, Indiana!
if you have a lump in your throat , you're not alone
It's odd how C.J., as the just former WH Chief of Staff and who probably knew more things than the former Vice-President, could just walk out unescorted. I would think that would be a security risk.
After all, Harry Truman didn't even know about the Manhattan Project until after FDR had died, but FDR's CoS certainly would have been aware of it.
I still thought that instead of “tomorrow” it should have been “what’s next?” Santos said it in the oval. But it would have been a great last line.
Nah, the line "What's next?" signalled his life of ultimate, constant professional *readiness*. Problem-solving. Decision-making. Now, now, now. Being "a human starting gun". Saying "tomorrow", with its implication of no-hurry, of having time, means he's finally a civilian.
So having it as Bartlett's last line would have been a bit of tricksey TV writing. False.
“Human starting gun.” Nice reference.
Just wondering how will President Biden go home to Delaware? It’s not really that far that he would fly in Airforce One! Speaking of AF1, it’s now very likely that President DTrump will be the first to use one of the new AF1 B747-8i, who would have thought it!
2:27 I wonder if that was an extra that waved at the bottom of the screen or a random. 😂 If it was an extra he probably won't get hired again.
Just a random thought, but Jimmy Smits was also in the prequels. That's interesting timing. Being a president in one universe and a senator in the other.
It wasn't another universe. It was another galaxy far, far away.
And a presidential candidate in 24
@@hazmat7949 For a second, I thought you meant 2024, the year not the tv show.
Imagine having to choose between Democrat Bail Organa or Republican Franklin Hawkeye Pierce for President. Not a bad way to end it.
A long way from getting blown up in the pilot of Miami Vice.
I think Bartlett would always see that napkin as embodying everything about his Presidency, good and bad. I think, though, he'd always remember that it cost Leo his marriage and ultimately his life.
Is it just me or did Donna's office look bigger than the Oval Office?
It was larger. Some of the offices in other parts of the White House were not divided up over the years, and are quite large. Even Bartlet complained that Babbish's office was larger than the oval.
2:28 gotta love the tourists ruining the shot by waving 😂
Look closer he isn't waving. I only see 1 finger up.
I can only imagine the note Drumpf left for Biden - although it would not surprise me if he didn't leave a note - and then imagining the note Biden will leave for stupid Drumpf.
What did the note say….. “ don’t allow the interns to smoke your cigar “
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I wish I had the power to sit the current president-elect down and make him watch this entire series so he would know, for once, how it's supposed to be done.
FLOTUS's CoS's office is so much nicer (and bigger) than POTUS's one. (At least in this White House)
More room in the East wing! But I agree it's a nice contrast especially given the relationship between Josh and Donna in the last few episode and how he offers her Deputy PressSec
I think pretty much every room on TWW was bigger than the actual counterpart in the White House.
@@AlexTurpin I think Donna working for the First Lady helped her relationship with Josh because they needed to keep things separate
@@aph1976Yeah, because Josh had no trouble with that the last time he was dating the FLOTUS CoS
Where has America gone?
What did the note say?
We don't know, that's what makes it special.
i wonder if they writers argued about Bartlett saying "what comes next" as his final line.
I like how they recycled the president elect's office to Donna Moss's office hahaha
That was so common during the show (I remember how shocked I was when I saw what they did for the Democratic Convention in Season 5 - all the tricks they had to use.)
The one criticism of this finale, and it’s small, is President Bartlet’s last words should have been “what’s next.”
Donna has a bigger office than Leo, Sam, Josh, CJ and Toby ever had lol
Her office isn’t in the White House.
"Awfully nice thing he did."
They had to do the doey-eyed wonder moment, but are we really expected to believe that Donna never had to visit the First Lady's Chief of Staff's office in all of her 8 years working there?
But it wasn't “her office” then. Her office had been a cubicle. Now she has her office.
@@wonder528 That was Dr Bartlet's Chief of Staff's office all throughout the show. The fact that it would now be Donna's wouldn't be a surprise if she had visited her predecessor even once.
The staffer says this is a completely different suite of offices than those used by Mrs. Bartlet, so Donna would not know whom any of the offices belonged to. This clip starts after he mentions it, when he's showing Annabeth her office as the First Lady's press secretary.
@@flyboy152 It's the same set though isn't it? The one where the frames fell off the wall when Amy slammed the door?
@Gredddfe It's the office Santos was using as president-elect. Could it be the actual office set they used for Mrs. Bartlet way back? Maybe, they often reused stuff, I'd have to watch the episode.
It's nice to see how a mere senator from a relatively small planet managed to work his way up to becoming the president of the united states.
Jokes aside, I really wish that last line from Bartlett was different. Tomorrow is nicely compelling, sure, but "What's next" would have been far better. It suits his character, it fits the same thing, but it's also a callback to how he was at the very beginning of his campaign, and with a forlorn delivery, could have been read as him thinking about what's next because for the first time in eight years.... there's really nothing to Know about in terms of what's next. No one's giving him a schedule, he doesn't have to spend all day in meetings, you could really nail home the fact that he really just... doesn't know what's next.
Always thought it a bit unrealistic that that Dad wouldn't recognise CJ, given it was frequently emphasised how she was the visible face of the administration.
So did i for a time… but the last few years have educated me that the majority of the American populace are woefully ignorant about their government…
Why, when in real life a majority of American voters can spot a felon on the ballot paper.
Writing is phenomenal, but when she closed the oval office door she should have said, Thank you Mr. President.
And now all we've got is sick, s and sour.
Tomorrow will be brighter.
The shot at 2:07 is the first time I think they showed the real West Wing in The West Wing. Lots of shots of the Residence, of course, but rarely if ever of the West Wing.
You want to try that time stamp again?
@@catrionacolville2192 1:36 shows the North entrance of the West Wing. and yes, could be true they never shot on location, i dont know. scenes at the gates occured a lot though, but those were probably not shot on location either
@@diablo888I believe gate shots *were* on location in DC.
IS that Barney from Parks and Rec?
Can someone tell me how Donna didn't know which office was the First Lady's and which was the FL's Chief of Staff? I mean did she never visit Amy's office?
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He specifically says that the suite that Mrs. Bartlet was using was being redone, this is a different set of offices.
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I don't recall that... It's not shown in this clip.
@@kencyr9285 The clip starts right after.
FLOTUS's chief of staff's office is about 5 times as large as the office of POTUS chief of staff. Leo/CJ's office is tiny!
I am disturbed by the incumbent's characterization of the Executive Mansion as a pig-pen. That wasn't Trump, that was JFK. Elitists have been historically ruinous.
When Jimmy Smits walks into the Oval and looks at the Desk, you have to wonder if maybe the expression on his face wasn't _entirely_ acting.
"What's next?"
I'm just going to say it. I kind of wish Vinnick would have won. How the writers would have handled that transition would have been fascinating and I know it would have been quality.
I'm sure you know this, but that is how it was originally written. When John Spencer died, they changed the outcome. I guess it just seemed too sad the other way.
They would land in Boston/Logan not New Hampshire.
I too wish Bail Organa was president
Biden had a short flight to Delaware and not sure if he was thinking about tomorrow.
I don't buy that the guy doesn't recognize who CJ is. Being the Press Secretary for two terms and having been on TV multiple, multiple times.
This was supposed to be Biden and Kamala, too bad we have a country of idiots. Or as I’ve now chosen to call them Consenting Low Information People, or CLIPs for short
Biden/Harris completely failed. The only solace is the dishonesty of the media has been exposed as partisan and not-objective.
Then they put the President's Chief of Staff in a broomcloset next to the Oval
ok really? Donna never went to the Chief of Staff of the First Lady's Office before? Even when it was Amy Gardner?
She probably never thought about it. The guy did say the First Lady's office was being restored so Donna thought it belonged to Mrs Santos. Easy mistake.
"Whats next ? " Such a Jewish Bartlett line❤
I’m pretty sure you meant to type either “Jed” or “Josiah” there.
America is so fucked.
Yes it is but, remember West Wing was fiction, not biographical of any US administration.
LOL
Not hardly
Was. Tomorrow is bright.
We rewatch the whole series once the clocks go back. Sadly reality is the complete opposite. Trump is the Anti-Bartlet.
Tomorrow is bright. Sad reality is the sad reality of the last four years.
The biden white house was more like house of cards
I love this episode so much, I mean I love them all. But I also think its a bit of a dick move for her not to answer a tourists question especially with his little girl there with him.
Remember TV show,not real world dems.
Copium in the comments is funny to read lol
And on Jan 22, 2025 Matt Santos was deported
Vinick would be the better president
Ironically he was gonna be but because of John Spencer’s death, it was changed.
@@Legba85that’s just a rumor
If Vinick was an accurate representation of real life Republicans these days, I might actually vote for them again.
I would be fine with Vinick as president. He was a man of integrity and he loved his country, unlike those with zero integrity who love only themselves.
@@joebrown3849 you think Santos is an accurate portrayal of a democrat? I understand it's a TV show and keep it that way.