That's Evelyn Guerrero. Many remember her from playing Donna on several Cheech and Chong movies. She married Pat Morita of the Karate Kid and more. She did at least one spread for Playboy and it was awesome.
Anybody else cry when in the end when data was destroyed riker was explaining this moment how the first time he met data he was whistling some tune but he just couldn't get it right? I sobbed damn that was sad
When I got into the car... and shut the door. The death of Data reminded me of the story of Optimus Prime. Both died on the big screen. Kids were comming out of the theater in tripple tears. Animators concerned about this eventually patched the end of the Transformers movie - eventually promising that he would return. And he did. In much the same way, the download to B4 was completed before he died. It opened quite a few doors - suggesting that with enough time, it could "evolve" back into Data. Two great characters with great legacies... Sadness... Story Arch... And all.
To be fair, "Datalore" hadn't been written yet, and Data was very early in development. They tried distancing both characters later on, and cover themselves with the episode "Brothers", where Soong says the main difference is "a bit of programming". Lore was already malfunctioning, working with the Crystalline Entity...but his theft of Data's emotion chip turned him fully insane. In the end, Lore was dismantled permanently...and probably destroyed when the Enterprise-D crashed on Veridian III in "Generations".
My theory is Data spoke and interacted rather candidly early on in the seasons and later became reprogrammed slightly after the incident with lore. Data always reminded me of Bishop from Aliens
@Robb Dark Riker didn't actually meet data then , he was just giving him orders, As Riker had to do a manual saucer docking procedure ordered by picard when riker first came aboard the enterprise . this was the actual first meeting and conversation
Is that a half smile on Data's face when he's marvelling at how easily humans whistle, he sounds a little envious. Where they still working on the character in the first season?
Roddenberry envisioned Data as a blank slate from the very start, eager to become more human but not knowing how. By the end, he wanted Data to be as close to human as possible, while still not. For the most part, that's exactly what Berman and the rest did after Gene's death.
Yea the computer on the Enterprise is pretty much Siri. Siri, tell me where Commander Data is. Siri, what time is it? Siri, do these pants make my butt look to big?
love how sassy data is all the time, in season 2 with 'one is my name. the other is not.' and here with 'prejudice is very human.' i just love how he does that all the time
He doesn't have feelings and is very truth-based, so he says things as he sees them, rather than trying to protect feelings or save face. It's how more people should be: honest.
@@O1OO1O1 Of course it's good not to lie in most cases especially when it's about saving your own face. But the problem is, unlike Data, humans do have feelings and sometimes it is necessary to protect the feelings of your counterpart, also by not telling (parts of) the truth.
When I think about the time I first met a good friend of mine who passed away, I think of this scene too with riker and data and how riker recalled this moment after data died. I met my friend Mike on a little wooden bridge over a small stream of water, in a small wooded area. Very similar to this scene. Mike was a good and interesting companion for the next three years.
First, I love this story. I hope you are still strong, and understand that your friend is in a better place. Second, Just a heads up, it might be a good idea to give a spoiler warning. I kinda got spoiled. Anyway, thank you for sharing. And again, I hope you're alright my good man.
That's Evelyn Guerrero. Many remember her from playing Donna on several Cheech and Chong movies She did at least one spread for Playboy and it was awesome.
People have said that Data seems more emotional in season 1. I think he's using a sub-routine to approximate emotions. Sometime between season 1 and 2, he realised that he comes across as a bit smug and creepy so he deleted the sub-routine and became the data we know and love.
It's really interesting to see the growth of Data, all the characters actually throughout the series. I can't wait for the new Star Trek series to start.
Alone in the holodeck, simulating a nice forest and mindlessly whistling... Is it just me or Data's first appearance is not exactly what you would expect after knowing the character and rewatching his first scene again?
Absolutely! He was gorgeous and a fox!! You should see him in pictures of him when he's younger and himself out of his Data makeup, he's Absolutely gorgeous sexy as far as I'm concerned!! Just a beautiful creature!!❤💋 WE LOVE YOU BRENT SPINER!!
He's dead: in the final episode from TNG, Picard alterate the timeline making that this possible future (Deanna dead, Riker and Worf hating each other and Bervely as his ex-wife) never going to happen.
Data dying was the point of Nemesis. The four TNG movies are really about his character arc - getting his emotion chip is Generations, seduced in first Contact, rebelling Insurrection, and then finally, in one last, culminating, human act, giving his life to save his friends.
Who after watching that wants a "holodeck" of their own. I would be on the ship for the sole purpose of eating in Paris, surfing, ect. Without EVER leaving the ship!!!🚀🚀🚀👍🏻😜😝📈
I'd probably use a holodeck much like Worf did: A place to vent and exercise without fear of breaking anything AND with built in sparring partners. That'd be SWEET.
Great... really great, esp now knowing where all this went. The stories, the writing, yhe morality plays all just great. Those of us who were taken in by this are oh so fortunate. I for one am grateful for TNG
You know how everyone uses the meme of Chuck Norris being bitten by snake and 3 days later the snake died it Is from star trek season 2 or 3 riker says it to dr poloski that his father was bitten by a rattle snake and after 3 days of pain and agony the snake died
***** Not really. It's just one of those curious details that they changed quite a bit after the pilot (or season 1) - more often than not for the better. :)
Sorry, I wrote that a bit ambiguously. I was referring to the fact that the computer was much less talkative later on... colder and more computer-like.
Yeah... Science Fiction often shows mankind living either in a utopia or dystopia. Star Trek (TNG mostly) to me is the best example for the first. Seeing how far away we are from that is pretty disheartening.
This is in the part 2 episode, of Encounter at Farpoint.There is a scene prior to this in the part 1 episode where they are together, when the saucer section of the ship is manually docked with the rest of the ship, so this is not their first meeting: ruclips.net/video/OmaKXpI3204/видео.html
Watching on a datapad a datapad-recorded transmission of a man pretending to be a robot in a spaceship that has a special place on it that pretends to be like the real place outside of my actual front door is intriguing.
I know the relationship between Picard and Data is well noted. This was also a great one through the years. And those two weren't even his best friend (Geordi).
Having never seen the pilot (became a casual Trek fan mid-series) Nemesis made me think Data whistled Blue Skies when Riker met him, BUT IT WAS REALLY “POP GOES THE WEASEL!”
I remember the scene where Wesley Crusher falls in the water and Data picks him up effortlessly....and smiles.
That ensign totally checking Riker out.
That's Evelyn Guerrero. Many remember her from playing Donna on several Cheech and Chong movies. She married Pat Morita of the Karate Kid and more. She did at least one spread for Playboy and it was awesome.
lol damn she was not at all subtle
Clearly a descendant of James Tiberius Kirk.
Well, duh. Kirk's like the Genghis Khan of the Galaxy, Everyone's related to him by next gen.
Subtlety was not her strong suit...
A post-feminist era.
Betotrono
Wish they were that subtle here where I live, Thailand. Nice people, lousy capital.
Riker without his beard is so weird to me. It's like smooth baby face.
Ensign Babyface, to be exact.
Reason he grew a beard is at a certain position, he looked like James T. Kirk.
Smooth as an android's bottom.
@@lexmcmillan8033 Data would disagree with you lol.
@@NyuuMikuru1 Wow haven't heard this before interesting.I always wondered why he wasn't that future "Next generation Kurt.
Anybody else cry when in the end when data was destroyed riker was explaining this moment how the first time he met data he was whistling some tune but he just couldn't get it right? I sobbed damn that was sad
If you have feels for Data, don't watch ST Picard unless you want to cry more.
When I got into the car... and shut the door.
The death of Data reminded me of the story of Optimus Prime. Both died on the big screen. Kids were comming out of the theater in tripple tears.
Animators concerned about this eventually patched the end of the Transformers movie - eventually promising that he would return. And he did.
In much the same way, the download to B4 was completed before he died. It opened quite a few doors - suggesting that with enough time, it could "evolve" back into Data.
Two great characters with great legacies... Sadness... Story Arch... And all.
0:30 DID SHE JUST
No doubt about it lol!
Yes she did, those costumes left little to the imagination.
yep
Back in a time when showing normal human interaction was cool.
Yes she did! hahahahahaha.
Data was kind of creepy in that first scene he sounded like lore
To be fair, "Datalore" hadn't been written yet, and Data was very early in development. They tried distancing both characters later on, and cover themselves with the episode "Brothers", where Soong says the main difference is "a bit of programming". Lore was already malfunctioning, working with the Crystalline Entity...but his theft of Data's emotion chip turned him fully insane. In the end, Lore was dismantled permanently...and probably destroyed when the Enterprise-D crashed on Veridian III in "Generations".
The whole first season he was still refining the character, you can notice the differences between Data season 1 and later seasons easily
My theory is Data spoke and interacted rather candidly early on in the seasons and later became reprogrammed slightly after the incident with lore. Data always reminded me of Bishop from Aliens
JadenDesveaux@
A season one SNAFU, Data smiling pre emotion chip. Very un-cannon when compared to S2 > S7.
Data doesn't sound like Lore.
Lore sounds like Data.
I love how they referenced this scene at the end of "Nemesis", Riker sadly recalling he couldn't remember the song Data tried to mimic.
Lol, that's what pushed me to upload this. Thanks for commenting!
I NEVER WANT TO WATCH NEMESIS NOW THANKS FOR THE SPOILER DAMN
To be fair, Nemesis has been out over 12yrs...
+Melody Mueller Lol!
Never saw the Sun.... Shining so Bright....
Damn the ending of Nemesis always draws a tear to my eye.
Riker mentioned this scene in Star Trek: Nemesis.
Too bad Riker actually met Data several scenes before this.
Gudder Games when🤔
@Robb Dark Riker didn't actually meet data then , he was just giving him orders, As Riker had to do a manual saucer docking procedure ordered by picard when riker first came aboard the enterprise . this was the actual first meeting and conversation
That’s what brought me here. He mentioned it at Data wake after sacrificing himself
But he couldn't remember the tune Data was trying to whistle.
Is that a half smile on Data's face when he's marvelling at how easily humans whistle, he sounds a little envious. Where they still working on the character in the first season?
David Murphy Absolutely! personally I believe Data was a work in progress untill season 5. By far my favorite character!
Roddenberry envisioned Data as a blank slate from the very start, eager to become more human but not knowing how. By the end, he wanted Data to be as close to human as possible, while still not. For the most part, that's exactly what Berman and the rest did after Gene's death.
and the face he given at his death...Bravery! ruclips.net/video/9K9PxI4KU7k/видео.html
yeah they hadn't nailed down how they were gonna do data. I got that same impression.
He reminded me a bit of lore in this scene. I actually really like it.
Really now, Riker? You looked up his record, and completely missed the part where it would have listed Data as an Academy graduate?
He skimmed it, he has ladies to woo.
He might consider it an honorary gesture even to allow a robot to go through the Academy.
The writing in season 1 wasn't one of Star Trek's best moments. Too many comical tones and loose ends.
My holodeck would require a "Do Not Disturb" sign.
Thomas Moore Someone would scribble underneath that writing, "Disturbed enough already".
That is true. What is the point of the Holodeck if someone can just walk in.
Bryan Herber Riker does outrank Data.
I wonder how many simulations are basically virtual fanfiction with a 100% chance of sexual activity occurring
I'd need a personal holodeck in my quarters.
We had this in 1987...Incredible, Star Trek really was ahead of its time.
Yea the computer on the Enterprise is pretty much Siri. Siri, tell me where Commander Data is. Siri, what time is it? Siri, do these pants make my butt look to big?
The earliest season is so awkward and funny. This was the beginning of my fascination with Data. Thanks for sharing :)
I remember when Data died, Riker mentioned that meeting they showed in this video.
love how sassy data is all the time, in season 2 with 'one is my name. the other is not.' and here with 'prejudice is very human.' i just love how he does that all the time
He doesn't have feelings and is very truth-based, so he says things as he sees them, rather than trying to protect feelings or save face. It's how more people should be: honest.
@@O1OO1O1 Of course it's good not to lie in most cases especially when it's about saving your own face. But the problem is, unlike Data, humans do have feelings and sometimes it is necessary to protect the feelings of your counterpart, also by not telling (parts of) the truth.
@@O1OO1O1 Yeah, but too much honesty isn't always good. Data's straightforwardness often comes across as awkward or shocking to others.
When I think about the time I first met a good friend of mine who passed away, I think of this scene too with riker and data and how riker recalled this moment after data died. I met my friend Mike on a little wooden bridge over a small stream of water, in a small wooded area. Very similar to this scene. Mike was a good and interesting companion for the next three years.
First, I love this story. I hope you are still strong, and understand that your friend is in a better place.
Second, Just a heads up, it might be a good idea to give a spoiler warning. I kinda got spoiled.
Anyway, thank you for sharing. And again, I hope you're alright my good man.
I always liked data he is one of my favorite characters in the show
Nick Shannon FAVORITE CHARACTER OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..............DATA's TOO AWESOME😜😝😘🤓🤓
Thank you Mr Shannon!
Nick Shannon yes because in many ways he was more human than many people.
“Nice to meet you Pinocchio”
Same here.
0:31 oh no girlfriend, you didn't.
Just watched Nemesis and now this makes me cry my fucking eyes out again.
The woman who played the Ensign was the wife of Pat Morita (Mr Miyagi from Karate Kid)
Intriguing...
That's Evelyn Guerrero. Many remember her from playing Donna on several Cheech and Chong movies She did at least one spread for Playboy and it was awesome.
Season 1 and 2 of TNG were so futuristic in some ways. Almost alienating to watch.
Jeroen D Stout I know what you mean. I feel the same way. :-)
Cus the rest aint futuristic at all, right?
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0:30 She's like "Yeah, I'd hit dat." Lol.
I noticed that too just now! Not as much back in the day, though.
Definitely could tell Brent was trying to polish his Data....seemed like Lore in how he talked more relaxed and facial expressions.
He even smiles kinda.
Who went here after Data died in Nemesis.
I was 4 when this came out. I only remember this scene when I put myself back then watching it.
And from there the fanfics begun
Lol, Riker was such a baby face before he grew his beard.
Riker references this scene in Nemesis after Data died. :'(
People have said that Data seems more emotional in season 1. I think he's using a sub-routine to approximate emotions. Sometime between season 1 and 2, he realised that he comes across as a bit smug and creepy so he deleted the sub-routine and became the data we know and love.
Lore likely had the same subroutine, but didn't care or didn't understand about the downsides.
@@RaynmanPlays Typical, brothers, amiright?
Still remember seeing this scene for the first time. Set the stage nicely for both characters. :-)
Random unnamed ensign eyeing Riker 😂. Not to mention that Data's very first line to Riker sounds like Lore.
It's really interesting to see the growth of Data, all the characters actually throughout the series. I can't wait for the new Star Trek series to start.
I agree. Wish Rick Berman was part of it.
TNG is the only one worth watching. Can't stand DS9, Voyager & whatever other bullshit after that
Bryan Herber Nah
CCJJ160Channels this comment did not age well... discovery is a mess
@@GenuflectingRotation Some 'Star Trek fans' hate everything after TNG, some of them like Discovery.
Data is like a hermit living in the forest in the scene.
Alone in the holodeck, simulating a nice forest and mindlessly whistling... Is it just me or Data's first appearance is not exactly what you would expect after knowing the character and rewatching his first scene again?
2:12 Data, your Lore is showing.
When Data 1st spoke he look like Lore
Computer was never that polite afterward.
DATA is bay far my favorite character in STTNG
By far*
not "bay far"
Kuken Balle Shut the fuck up.
Even the computer has the hots for Riker.
Thank you Siri.
A young Commander Riker!
That isn't Data. That's Lore.
Brent Spiner was so goddamn pretty when he was young.
Absolutely! He was gorgeous and a fox!! You should see him in pictures of him when he's younger and himself out of his Data makeup, he's Absolutely gorgeous sexy as far as I'm concerned!! Just a beautiful creature!!❤💋
WE LOVE YOU BRENT SPINER!!
That ensign was checking him out 😆
She stared a little bit to long ...
"Next hatchway on your right" -- it's on the left. =)
I remember the first time I saw this , I was told that they was one holodeck , i was ... Fascinated
I love how she checked out his butt as he walked away at the start of the vid. ^^
I get the feeling Data was hurt by the Pinocchio reference once her understood the reference...
It's like a first day at school, getting familiar with your surroundings
You can tell that Spiner didn't really have the role down yet. Data's way of speaking is very natural and human here.
I should probably watch all of these from the start...
I am superior sir in many ways! I just love the dialogue!
Isaac from the Orville: I am BETTER than everyone else!
Go figure who inspires him :-)
"You must be new to these Galaxy class starships, sir."
"Um, yeah, we all are. They're brand new."
Data is my fave TNG character!
Nemesis totally made a dumb move by killing him!
he's not dead as in season 7 picard was able to seek data's help after 25 years
sebashtun dakeng Also seen in the Star Trek Countdown comics and Star Trek Online.
He's dead: in the final episode from TNG, Picard alterate the timeline making that this possible future (Deanna dead, Riker and Worf hating each other and Bervely as his ex-wife) never going to happen.
I have only seen Nemesis once, because I hated it, I didn't remember him dying.
Data dying was the point of Nemesis. The four TNG movies are really about his character arc - getting his emotion chip is Generations, seduced in first Contact, rebelling Insurrection, and then finally, in one last, culminating, human act, giving his life to save his friends.
Who after watching that wants a "holodeck" of their own. I would be on the ship for the sole purpose of eating in Paris, surfing, ect. Without EVER leaving the ship!!!🚀🚀🚀👍🏻😜😝📈
You're both very sweet. The majority of people just make jokes about which celebrities they would have sex with when it comes to the holodecks! lol
I' d spend a year in the greatest library I could create..listen to ancient music..recreate ancient lands.
I'd probably use a holodeck much like Worf did: A place to vent and exercise without fear of breaking anything AND with built in sparring partners. That'd be SWEET.
I’d be on an endless loop of Picard in the shower
@@Sonnabend00 same, that sounds like absolute HEAVEN
Who went here after Data died (for second and final time) in 'Star Trek: Picard' ?
Didn't have to spam the question, guy.
I was. Quite the tearjerker.
Starfleet can seem superior and smug and arrogant at times but Data's humility is heartwarming and sweet.
Strange how riker was amazed by the holodeck yet 100 years earlier on the discovery no one bats an eye
this is actually a great scene
Great... really great, esp now knowing where all this went.
The stories, the writing, yhe morality plays all just great.
Those of us who were taken in by this are oh so fortunate. I for one am grateful for TNG
Riker without a beard and mostly Deanna Troi in a short dress, those were good times.
the short dress was an homage to the original series ...troi looked sexy in that short dress and boots combo
@@stevenshewfelt888 yes she did. Tasha was in one very briefly too. Wish we could have seen her without her behind the console.
I saw you checking out Riker's cake lol
This scene was replayed in the season 2 finale but without the part where the ensign helps
Riker with the holodeck control panel
You know how everyone uses the meme of Chuck Norris being bitten by snake and 3 days later the snake died it Is from star trek season 2 or 3 riker says it to dr poloski that his father was bitten by a rattle snake and after 3 days of pain and agony the snake died
Do you consider yourself superior?
I am superior
Kinda like the moon landing or when 9/11 happened you might just remember where you were physically and in life when you first say this scene!
Dang. They both look so young here compared to now. Makes one feel old knowing you watched this as a kid.
That was Lore at 2:20. And if Data was soo awesome. How come his micro hearing couldn't hear Riker calling?
The computer use noise cancelling in the small space to make it appear more distant
The computer said the door was to his right but it was on his left. As far as the class of '78. That's a good 15 yrs after the beginning of TNG.
That is one talkative ship computer there...^^
*****
Not really. It's just one of those curious details that they changed quite a bit after the pilot (or season 1) - more often than not for the better. :)
Sorry, I wrote that a bit ambiguously. I was referring to the fact that the computer was much less talkative later on... colder and more computer-like.
Yeah... Science Fiction often shows mankind living either in a utopia or dystopia. Star Trek (TNG mostly) to me is the best example for the first. Seeing how far away we are from that is pretty disheartening.
+Geobacter Nostalgia at its finest!
am surprised the ships computer didn't try to hit on Riker in the first episode...lmao
Spock was the Penultimate Character and yet somehow they managed tot top him with Data
This is in the part 2 episode, of Encounter at Farpoint.There is a scene prior to this in the part 1 episode where they are together, when the saucer section of the ship is manually docked with the rest of the ship, so this is not their first meeting: ruclips.net/video/OmaKXpI3204/видео.html
Copyright InFiNgEmEt...©️
(Recorded from TV,& uploaded to RUclips)
Watching on a datapad a datapad-recorded transmission of a man pretending to be a robot in a spaceship that has a special place on it that pretends to be like the real place outside of my actual front door is intriguing.
You would think as a commander this kinda tech would not be new, its like an IT tech seeing a computer for the first time
I know the relationship between Picard and Data is well noted. This was also a great one through the years. And those two weren't even his best friend (Geordi).
"what was that song.."
At 0:59 has anybody ever noticed that Riker always walks with his right shoulder slightly lower than his left shoulder?
Am watching this from Bluray that I just bought! It's been a long time!
You're telling me the ship's computer can't locate officers on other star ships
"Next hatchway on your right." Riker turns left.
That moving sign on the passageway, directing Riker to Data, never appeared on later episodes.
James Henry haha you right it never did
That's some old school Next Generation.
The oldest school TNG... the raw begining
A video of a video
Very Astute! You've Won the Grand Prize. duh!!
Of a holoprojection
Inside a video
videoception
He's barley just got on the ship and an ensign's ALREADY trying to get in his pants!
0:30 Same, girl. Season 1 Riker is delicious.
Having never seen the pilot (became a casual Trek fan mid-series) Nemesis made me think Data whistled Blue Skies when Riker met him, BUT IT WAS REALLY “POP GOES THE WEASEL!”
It's so genius how Riker calls Data Pinocchio here and then in Measure of a Man Riker again calls him Pinocchio...
Plot twist: Riker was the android the entire time
Yes, lets aim our phone at an old TV to record a clip to post.
Had a blast doing it too! I'd be happy to lend you that old phone since you like it so much 😁
Notice the choice of words, Mr Data... A fresh grad, and to use those words. He humanized him from the outset.
If you fall in the water and get wet in the halo deck can you stop program and be dry immediately?
Riker is appointed 2nd in command of the Enterprise and does not understand basic functions of a starships' computer?
It's new tech.
He sounds like lore
Riker was always such a persnickety individual.
that ensign totally checked out Riker's butt when he walked off.
the computer says, "next hatchway on your right" he obviously turns to his left.
That’s because he’s stupid.
A time when privacy is nonexistent.
and the rest is history :)