Pir and Toothy Battlebond Partners Commander Deck Tech
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Pir, Imaginative Rascal & Toothy, Imaginary Friend are new partners from Battlebond. They can also pair up in your command zone for to be a flexible and powerful team. They are playing around with simic mechanics that we are used to but that just means that they will go in a lot of decks.
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Dang @JumboCommander, you don't miss a second.... and we LOVE IT!!!!
Holy moly!!!
Saw the spoiler and began thinking about a deck...
Meanwhile you not only came up with a super sweet deck but also made the video!!!
Jumbo,you son of a gun ;-)
Great work!
Please keep it up!
PS: need to put them into my Ezuri deck nevertheless
Totally. In the 99 they are great because they have "draw a relevant card' tacked on. So amazing.
Jumbo Commander totally agree!Besides that, Toothy's "leaves the battlefield"-clause seems super busted :)
Wizards surely share my love for ridiculous Simic shenanigans!
Pir and toothy with simic asendency
These two are going to be so good in atraxa counter shenanigans!
I actually just made an Ezuri deck because with the new doubling season reprint and these two cards being so good in the 99 it felt like a great time to do so.
Battlebond looks like a whole treasure Trove of Commander-worthy cards. Might be getting myself a box...
Made this deck right after battlebond prerelease. And most fun outta all of my decks. The look on my buddies face as smack for 31 commander damage is to fun.
Honestly this set seems really really good. Can't wait for more!!!
I was not excited for Pir and Toothy but now I am. Thanks Jumbo for this great deck tech.
This deck looks amazing! Nothing like mega value Simic commanders. Keep up the good content!
I'd like to bring up Helm of the Host for Toothy, every turn you get another Toothy that builds up it's own counters, then when one pops all the other Toothys get bigger! also, the Contagion weapons, Clasp is cheaper, but Engine would put 4 of any type of counter on Permanents you control with Pir out. That's a lot of counters!
Works pretty well with doubling season.
This sounds really disgusting.
I love it :D
Like 17 Badgers cloning Toothy is just generally good. Playing a literal clone and keeping it to the legend rule gets a new Toothy with the same p/t and draws the cards.
Helm on Pir is pretty sweet too
then someone board wipe and you die by drawing your deck because it's not a you may ability.
Once again, Jumbo Commander is reading my mind. Simic value engine for life!
Just built these guys' deck the other day after getting them at prerelease. Super sweet and fun to play and I'm definitely going to get some inspiritaion for brewing with them from this video! :D
Currently upgrading my Atraxa deck and so many of these cards have showed up in my research! Love the deck tech and love your videos!
some of the most fun and imaginative commanders and deck
This is certainly a nice +1/+1 counter Simic deck - getting a Winding Constrictor as your commander is a strong ability for sure.
Up until the end I thought "hm, this looks fun, but is it really better than other commanders for this theme?" ... then you suggested Darksteel Reactor and I was sold.
There is something special about a little kid with his imaginary pet monster bringing a nuclear bomb to the party because he thinks it's hillarious.
Something to clarify that wasn't mentioned in the video is that effects like pir and doubling season do not impact the amount of counters that are added when a pw ability is activated. It only impacts the amount they enter with and effects that manipulate the counters like proliferate
True! Thanks for the clarification. For people interested it's because adding loyalty counters is part of the cost of activating the ability NOT an effect.
Hey guys, an important distinction here that Jumbo didn't make with regards to Planeswalkers & _Doubling Season_ effects ( no offence Jumbo, LYLT) -
_Doubling Season_ and similar cards specify that if a counter would be added to a permanent you control as an *effect* of a spell or ability you control, instead you add double that amount. Activating a Planeswalker ability has a *cost* of +X or -X, which isn't an effect. The amount you add or subtract from a Planeswalker's loyalty as a result of paying these costs would be entirely unaffected by static effects from _Doubling Season_ and the like. However, proliferating abilities, and a couple of Planeswalker abilities such as _Gideon, Champion of Justice_ would double the number of counters put onto the permanent, and _Doubling Season_ does in fact double the number of counters with which the Planeswalker would enter the battlefield.
Thank you. I should have clarified that point. It's nice that you explained the cost and effect difference. It helps people better understand the game. It gets so tricky because all of these things that manipulate counters all do it slightly differently. Cheers.
And then Pir throws that off because he doesn't care why the counter goes on at all. A +1planeswalker ability becomes a +2 with Pir out.
I saw pir and was like atraxa all the way
I have an ezuri claw of progress deck already, I'm sticking these 2 in there as an alternate commander option :P as part of the 99, as long as you have 1, you'll get the second one. That's pretty good :P now I can't believe you forgot Jumbo Commander, (or maybe I missed it) but by far, the best win con in this deck is Sage of Hours. My playgroup got so annoyed at how easily and consistently I got the sage at 3 counters. So good :)
Great video Jumbo! Holy crud! These cards were spoiled just a few days ago and you already made this?!
I gotta say Toothy is the cutest name I've ever seen on a Mtg card! After seeing all the valuable needed reprints spoiled the past two days and some of these new fun commanders, I'm very excited for this set! This feels like a Commander set like Dominaria!
I hope Wizards keeps the valuable reprints coming! I might actually buy a box of this!
Jumbo, I hope you make a deck for the angel and demon lovers. Make sure to include some "tragic love" theme cards ;)
I love their mechanics ... what would tragic love themed cards be? I'm good at mechanics and strategy; I'm not good at themes. Serra's Embrace?
No idea to be honest, i hoped for some Jumbo surprises. ;)
But whether or not - the mechanics alone are worth a video.
Start // finish seems fitting
I can't wait to see what other partner commanders there will be!
Affinity For Commander some are non legendary and some are planes walkers
Great analysis. I like that you mentioned "flickering Toothy," but I'm not sure you spent enough time on just how powerful this is. I used to play a Simic "flicker deck" with Prime Speaker Zegana as commander with a bunch of blue and green ETB creatures, and the Maro creatures (P/T=cards in hand), which are all (except Psychosis Crawler) blue and or green. Anyway, a "flicker" spell like Ghostly Flicker could flicker Zegana and double my hand size if I had a Maro creature in play. I'd end up holding my entire deck and my creatures were easily 30/30+. I'd play a bunch of counter spells to protect my board once I had a huge hand. The two side-effects of the deck is that you need five or more cards in the 99 that give you no max hand size, and Zegana is seen as a threatening commander due to her potential size and card draw. So at one point I switched Zegana to the 99 and put Kruphix in as commander. This allowed me to rely on him and his indestructibility to give me no-max hand size, but required me to play tutors or "draw cards = to your largest power creature" cards to replace the accessibility of Zegana as commander. It played nearly the same but slightly better flying under the radar until too late for my opponents. Then Toothy and Pir dropped. I've just rebuilt the deck with the two of them as commanders. I no longer need the Maro creatures since Toothy doesn't care what my hand size is, and I need fewer "draw cards = to your largest creature's power" cards. I just need to flicker Toothy, and he draws me a bunch of cards and nearly doubles in size if Pir is in play. Play Conjurer's Closet and Deadeye Navigator of course. The early game is to set up with land ramp and getting the two commanders in play. They are not threatening at this stage, especially if your opponents have not played against the deck before. Once Toothy and Pir are in play, you just sit back and play defense. If a board wipe is played, counter it unless it is going to take out another problem. If Toothy is targeted with single target removal, you flicker him, draw more cards and double his size. You can put just a few win enablers in the deck to make sure you can seal the game. I play Laboratory Maniac, Thassa, Rogue's Passage, Time Warp, and Overwhelming Stampede (which turns Pir commander damage lethal too) cause you'll draw them after Toothy flickers a time or two. I still play a bunch of other ETB creatures, and Panharmonicon to take advantage of the flicker spells. Elvish Rejuvenator is my new favorite land ramper. I'm playing counter spells so Mystic Snake, Draining Whelk, and Torrential Gearhulk are no-brainers. I really love to Ghostly Flicker (or Displace or Illusionist’s Stratagem) Torrential Gearhulk and Toothy, to recast the flicker spell and do it a second time, maybe flickering another ETB creature the second time with Toothy again. I have the potential to Eternal Witness/Time Warp infinite turns combo too. I've also considered adding some Palinchron/Cloud of Faeries/Peregrine Drake infinite mana combos too (Thrasios), but I'm not sure this is needed. I play a few mana boosters like Zendikar Resurgent and Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant (which is super dumb) to lower the one limiting factor (mana). The deck is super fun to play, though not fun to play against (counter spells).
Oh. Vedalkin Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation, Alchemist's Refuge, Teferi (creature) and the like that gives Toothy Flash are stupid good too. If Toothy is killed and returns to the Command Zone, you can immediately flash him back in play before his leave the battlefield trigger resolves and he is just as big as he was before he died. It is great when opponents don't realize this interaction. The look on their faces.
Cant say I enjoy the art but the mechanics look fun. Keep the videos coming man! I cant get enough of your videos!
7:06 mind is blown. for years I always thought that brian david marshall was talking
It is BDM. I just hired this schmuck to pretend to be Jumbo Commander so I can throw more people off of my trial.
Pir and toothy are going stright into my Ezuri
I think clone effects like spitting image are an auto include too. You clone Toothy once he gets massive, let the original die from the legend rule, then the new copy gets all the 1/1 counters off of you drawing all those cards similar to how the flicker effects would work. Plus you can recast spitting image over and over by discarding a land card and repaying the cost, which is stupid easy if you keep drawing cards. And if you have Pir or one of those cards out that give it extra counters each time it enters the battlefield, it just gets bigger and bigger each time.
Maybe even altared ego, which lets you pump mana into it to get more 1/1 counters and then gets all the 1/1 counters from the original Toothy copy.
God, I'm gonna love building this deck!
I was just thinking of using them as my commanders as you posted this!
holy crap! I swear this is the first time I've ever seen jumbo's face....but he looks exactly like a mentally pictured he would!
In my experience, I fit the stereotypical magic player pretty well.
Woo!! More partners!! Keep it up Dj.
That was quick!
Love the vids. Be careful not to burn yourself out!
I won't always do the 10 videos in a month schedule but I'll always bring you consistent weekly content. And then Battlebond comes out and I NEED TO MAKE 10 MORE VIDEOS CAUSE HYPE
Pir and Toothy basically means you have Calvin and Hobbes in your command zone. Seems like a good enough reason to play them in my book.
I just got the secret lair because of the art and it giving me that feel. Excited to build this deck, checking out a 4 yr old video tho, probably been dozens of new cards since then.
Training Grounds, Gilder Bairn, Cryptolith Rite, Toothy, Laboratory Maniac and a flicker or sac outlet. GG guys
One time an 101/102 Gyre Sage with flying swung at me in a Commander Game once... I still have flashbacks to that crazy Vorel deck
I bet everyone at the table was just glaring at the top of their decks with an internal scream of "REMOVAL! It's just a stupid elf that's killing me!!!"
I'm sure this goes without saying, but Atraxa will love this.
These two are definitely going in my Ezuri deck
This Commander set is awesome!
Is it just me, or is it weird that Pir is just a "Human" creature type? Like, not a "Human Rogue" or "Human Warrior"? I dunno, just seems odd.
Aleks Mcallister Because 'Human Child' only exists in Un-sets.
Cloistered Youth is also just a human. So I guess the logic is that if you are too young you don't have a true class yet?
I'm sure we will see him as a grown up shaman or warrior in a few years, but for now he has nothing but some natural talent that keeps him in the arena.
No formal education, still kicking ass. Kid is going wild.
They haven't printed a new human legend with no other subtype ever in modern magic.
Jumbo Commander I guess that makes sense. I think it's just more of an optics thing that bothers me.
Great deck! Kudos on being that fast and making a deck already!
The "downside" is that you gave me card ideas for my 'no-free-slot-availabe' Ezuri UG deck... Heh
I have a Ezuri CoP deck, but this video make me want to try that partners XD
Nice Video Jumbo! Hope we get to see a deck tech on Virtus the Veiled and Gorm the Great next. Have been tinkering with it, but I'm not quite satisfied. Would love to see your perspective on them.
Huh, I never noticed that Pir said counters on permanents, not just creatures. He definitely seems a lot better than I initially thought. I love the deck tech here with counters. I plan on brewing with these two in more of a voltron way with Toothy.
Toothy card draw voltron? Sounds pretty epic. I love it.
I think Pir and lots of arcbound creatures with modular could be cool. Durable Handicraft, Lifecrafter's Gift, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Verdurous Gearhulk, Song of Freyalise, and Darksteel Forge and some other stuff to really make the arcbounds worth it. Free counter moving is fun.
Agreed. The thing that makes me sad is that my favorite fabricate maker - Marionette Master is out of the color pie. I am experimenting with a mardu list that uses some modular stuffs. Great idea!
Oh yeah, Triskellion, Helix Pinnacle and Ashnod's Altar, Kark Clan Iron Works and Scrap Trawler too for some non-combat ways to win.
Battlebond is Off the Hook (*-*)
Scrounging Bandsr can also help with distributing the counters if its loaded with them first
Amazing video as always my friend!
This set is a disgustingly gross & dirty set, this is really gonna shake up commander. These new decks are gonna be a PAIN to play against
You said that they are "a pain to play against" you mistyped. I think you meant to type "MAJESTIC TO PLAY WITH!!!" ;)
HOLY HECK! I've never seen your face before.Nice deck tech.
btw don't forget the cards like sage of hours or magistate's septor that let you take extra turns
This was a amazing video. Thank you
you forgot to mention that unlike doubling season the +abilities of walkers also make an extra counter with pir, which can be a big thing
I could be wrong because the Battlebond rules release has not occurred but my gut reaction is that Pir will not allow you to add additional loyalty. The reason why is because adding a counter is the COST of activating an ability not an EFFECT and paying costs would not be subject to Pir. I'm sure WOTC will clarify this stuff in a couple of days.
Jumbo Commander We'll see it in a few days then, but unlike cards like doubling season, Pir doesnt say it needs to be from ability, it just says that when counters would be placed you place 1 more, so i'm optimistic.
Vorel is just jumping for joy
Don't forget the proliferate subtheme here - a simple contagion clasp can put an extra counter on ANYTHING, then it gets another from Pir, then it gets another from all the enchantments you have, and this is repeatable for four mana. Four mana for EASILY four +1/+1 counters on toothy, probably more, yeah I'll take that deal any day of the week. Don't forget that proliferate is a Simic theme so you can throw in a thrummingbird, inexorable tide, core prowler, and basically any other proliferates you want except for atraxa. Also, the value of contagion engine is insane in this deck. Pump everything you have by bajillions of counters, then do it again? Yes, please. My thought is, if you have a contagion clasp and a contagion engine on the battlefield, drop a planeswalker then use all that sweet mana that green has let you ramp into to instantly give it, like, thirty counters, then use its ultimate on the turn that it's dropped. Oh, and as if that wasn't enough, proliferate doesn't just target your board. You can play politics. somebody else has a planeswalker? Make an alliance. Somebody you don't like has a single -1/-1 counter on a creature? Kill it with status-based effects. Proliferate, hands down, needs to be in this deck.
7:07 big surprise after these year! hahaha my was O.O! lmao. good Deck tech DJ!
I think I'll break up the videos a bit more now. I never liked that I sometimes had you staring at some art while I spoke for a while. We will see as I get better at editing.
Important miss here
Flickering toothy while pir is out DOUBLES the counters
Works great for clone wars
Clone toothy and sac original
Draw
Buff clone
Repeat
Love the new music! Much better!
These guys are perfect for me Ezuri, Claw of Progress deck :O
Kinda hoping the Angel and Demon Partners get a spotlight. They look super fun
That was quick, it's not even out yet. Wow
More to come!
Cool, I'm a huge fan.
Thank you so much for this!
Will and Rowan next?? I was thinking about a superfriends/spells matter deck with a slight imphasis on stealing opponents spells after seeing the newly spoiled "Stolen Strategy" but I'm curious about what your take would be! ☺
Yeah, I'm also not sure about those two. They are not SUPER impactful in our format but you cannot deny the value of 2 planeswalkers. I'm looking at them carefully, your version sounds sweet
I'm sure it would be great fun to play 2hg commander with those two at the helm of one deck each ... don't really see them do much in a non-team game though.
They simply cost too much to cast in the same turn and if you space them out, they lose much of their synergy and impact.
Next Deck-Tech about Will/Rowan Kenrith, pls. Let´s hear about the duo PW-Commanders and some spell slinging
it's funny i ordered the cards for a vorel commander deck so these guys will be a good include
Saw this pair and thought, yup they're going in vorel lol.
Hope to see you make a Najeela Blade-Blossom deck soon.
Also, RIP to my Samut and Zurgo warrior decks...
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I will be making a warriors video soon. I'm sure excited.
You should make a new +1/+1 counter deck with all the new simic cards.
For a deck tech idea, would you be willing to look at the new Cyclops and homunculus partner commanders with a heavy chaos/coin-flip theme?
Very nice my friend
damn this whole time i thought wedge was voicing this channel
I'm interested in the wording they have for "Partner with" because it doesn't say SEARCH. I'm curious if there is a way to abuse the fact that you're not actually searching. Was that intentional by wizards?
I noticed that too ... I heard that it was just a language shortcut for the same old search and shuffle. It's the same action just a way to fit things on the card better.
But errata-wise does this get around Strangehold? Will we have to wait till these cards are released to find out or is this a judge kinda question?
The official mechanics article specifies that this is still a traditional search. So Stranglehold, Ob Nixilis, and Aven Mindcensor still affect it. It's really dumb that they left out the word search from the reminder text, because I've seen a lot of people sharing this confusion.
Really good questions. I think we'll have to wait.
Thanks for the info Corey........I really don't get how/why Wizards made that choice. I hope they get vocal about that. I can envision a time in a Commander game where someone uses the "partner with" ability and someone else tries to use a "trap" card and an argument over if the player truly searched or not.
Don't forget Master Biomancer, that'll mean Toothy will enter with at least 2 +1/+1 counters on it every time it flickers back into the board. gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=420827
So fun ... so much card draw! This is all I have ever wanted.
yes that's exactly what we need is another card that makes planeswalkers even more busted. like atraxa superfriends wasn't annoying enough.
I have noticed that Atraxa superfriends pulls a lot of hate where I play. It can be difficult to win if you are the archenemy but Pir and Toothy are so good in that 99. And with more doubling seasons in the world we need to really focus those Superfriends players or else they will dominate the late game.
every game i play vs atraxa superfiends becomes a game of archenemy, and they still usually win. it's a shame too, since atraxa can be used to do some many cool things and everybody just plays superfriends.
I wish that atraxa super friends was the most annoying deck in my stores meta. Atraxa is defiantly not the nearly the best deck in my meta.
Have a chasm skulker, make your toothy leave the battlefield, and double the counter with Pir. Oh yeah !
my pir and thooty deck is voltron and it's very good
Cool vid! Will you be making another video featuring Regna and Krav? I'm so in love with this odd pairing!
I like the look and power level of them as well.
Given the presence of Doubling Season, Pir, as well as the proliferate spells/abilities: would there be any value in including As Foretold into the deck?
Are we sure that "Partner" and "Partner with" are the same thing? They have different reminder text. I wont be surprised if the Oracle text specifies that these "Partner with" cards do not allow you to have two commanders but instead specifically reference a teammate-player.
oh, never-mind. I got the article on the wizards site talking about the intention for the keyword.
This is exactly what I was going to post, the "Partner with" mechanic is intended for use with Two-Headed-Giant, not Commander, in fact the Battlebond set is a Two-Headed-Giant set, NOT a commander set. (thus some of the effects say "team" in them, like Pir)
Does pir's effect mean you get more -1 counters when you play against hipatra?
Please do Gorm and Virtus next, pleeeeaaaaseee
Is it actually possible to play the second ability of the Zameck Guildmage, so that a creature enters with several counters?
Oh yeah! Cool huh.
Can you have Toothy, Imaginary Friend by itself separate from Pir in another commander deck? I would like to make him my lieutenant in my Locust God deck.
Woah Jumbo’s eyes are so blue. Like foil Talrand blue
That's what I want people to feel when they look at me. The cold stare of a tuned and foiled Talrand deck just waiting to counter your fun.
I haven't watched the video yet, but don't you think you should have waited till the rest of Battlebond has been spoiled to make this video? There might be some really good cards in the set that are like windmill slam-auto includes in this deck.
You are correct. But this is the curse of content creation. I assume I'll have 4 videos on battlebond so I need to get one out so I can get the other ones done. This is mostly cause I do this in my spare time after work. Hopefully, the comments section can point out really awesome things I miss (cause I'm sure I'll miss things).
AWESOME I HAVE THE SAME SHELF IN MY ROOM LOL
I really hate the company that sold me the shelf .... but the shelf itself is quite nice
Pir and toothy in atraxa
Can you do a deck tech on Will and Rowan Kenrith?
I'll try. They are interesting and I have more "good stuff" ideas than a real strategy built around them right now.
What about explore? You get a 1/1 on toothy or the exploring creature no matter the outcome. Also how does the partner casting from the command zone work? Do I have to cast both at once? Where does the commander tax get applied if not?
Explore sounds fun, good idea. You can cast either from the command zone if you want to and Commander tax is applied separately.
Could you do a Kazarov deck tech please?
I think i will trade my simic commander deck... zegana is going to 99 and put that guys as my +1 counters commander
Or you can just have a laboratory maniac out while you have toothy and generous sponsor 😱😱😱
damn it, never mind, the counters have to go on a creature I don't control
I can still see Lab Man in this. The card draw can be insane if you get an engine going.
I FOUND IT!!! Leech Bonder attached with Paradise Mantle, while having Lab Man, Fathom Mage, and Toothy. Tap Leech Bonder to add blue mana with Paradise Mantle, untap and spend the blue to activate Leech Bonder's ability of moving a counter from one creature to another. Move a counter from Toothy to Fathom Mage Triggering card draw giving Toothy another counter. Just Rinse and repeat until your library's empty and you win the game!!!
So with the partners from Battlebond as Commanders, do they both go in the command zone or how does that work if only one can and the identity is restrictive to the other partner?
They both go in the command zone(because of this main deck is 98) and you choose which commander is affected by anything that refers to a singular commander, unless it refers to multiple commanders
As well as each being treated seperatly in terms of commander tax and commander damage
Is it just me or does the link to the decklist not work? Also I’ve played a few games with pir and toothy proxied and I love them already, toothy can get ridiculously large very quickly
It works for me but I have had trouble with TappedOut links in the past. I'm glad you've tried them out. I think that they have the ability to be really fun together.
swap out Atraxa for the commander grab corpsjack menace, Gavue, some Ajanis, winding constrictor and a few other little utility cards/ removal that you get in Black and White and this also works as a simic focused 4 color deck LMAO
These two are amazing as part of the 99 because THEY DRAW THE OTHER! I just can't imagine. And if I could imagine, I'd imagine Toothy
If you had two forgotten ancients and an effect that would give you x2 counters or +1 counters could you essentially move them back and forth from one to the other and gain infinite counters? Or am I thinking of this wrong....
You can get A LOT of counters ... but you can only "redistribute" them once a turn. It's a trigger that although very complicated and has a lot of actions is still just a single trigger.
Jumbo Commander ahh that's what I was thinking but it was worded so funny I wasn't quite sure.
You're right. It's a trigger that makes sense when you just do it but if you had to break it down into rules speak it gets complicated. Does it target? (It doesn't) Can people kill the creatures in response to counters being added? (they can't because you chose as the ability resolves). A lot of problematic things that I don't think WOTC would have if they printed this type of card again.
No Inexorable Tide?
What no divinity counters? I'd rather have them in atraxa.
eiruvjnafdkvjnsdgfibhn sending an orzhov commander to the graveyard isn't a disadvantage!
As someone who plays elenda a lot i both hate and love how everyone is like "pfft it has to go to the graveyard, nice commander ha" i hate it because elenda is so good, and i love it because elenda is so good and people just ignore me and then woah, having a 4 mana aristocrats commander that dies and gives you a ton of tokens and if it doesn't it threatens commander damage all the time, elenda is crazy good, elenda is crazy good and if it was a leaves play effect elenda would be straight up broken with super easy with flicker effects and such
I totally agree with you. I think I made that clear in my Elenda video ... BUT it would be a much easier combo and more broken commander if it had "leaves the battlefield" instead ... maybe too broken.
it would be crazy insane if it said leaves the battle field, that opens it up for using flicker effects which could go off with blood artist or annointed possession, while still giving you all those advantages, also if you just play elenda with repeatable or cheap recurrsion you still get the same benefits without needing to pay a commander tax
Yeah, way too broken. I'm glad there is a minimal hoop we have to jump through to get all that value. I think a lot of people fixate on the downside. Not just in magic ... but in life ... I just got deep
Tawnos's Coffin dude. it's so often overlooked but it's sooooo good
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Oh trust me, I'm a huge fan of the coffin, I'm just so sad so many people have been priced out of playing it. I think they have finally gone over $100.
- grab a prime speaker zergana deck
-replace her with this two
-profit
same can be done with vorel