FINAL MOST RECENT EDIT: This build was updated again with elemental resist for colossi only. See build after fight around 9:30 m.ruclips.net/video/KYkeBU2w3Z4/видео.html ----------------- I’ve considered one more change to this build. Agony is great due to a defense and mp buff further assisting barriers, but both buffs are small. Elemental resist is still garbage in general missions as any enemy except a colossus does not inflict enough of it to matter (possible exception is toxic especially the Bio Lab boss). So I’ll probably keep Agony for general missions (if I decide to punish myself using him instead of Bunny of course). However, I think one more change is to add elemental resist module in place of agony with the new update affecting your barrier. Elemental resist is still trash compared to HP and defense (as any guide out there will tell you that’s run the numbers) which is why I still don’t think it’s worth any investment on your components beyond toxic you see on my processor. That’s only because the processor doesn’t offer any other combat related substats relevant to this build. But mp recovery out of combat with another HP buff on auxiliary power is non negotiable. No one will convince me fire resist is better for replacing EITHER of those (especially when HP affects barrier strength TOO) so already that means you’re out on elemental resist component wise. But the toughest boss in game is Gluttony who is frost then a toxic one later. Gluttony usually almost one taps Ajax’s barriers. So I’m going to test this and see if, for example, having chill resist over mo recovery in combat on the sensor and then cold antibody over agony on my modules would be enough for my hyper cube to tank Gluttony’s attacks. I think…probably not…I still very much doubt elemental resist is worth ANY investment because right now my barriers are already strong enough to last their full duration up to Molten Fortress and I’ve never seen any mob swam in any kind of mission take it out either even when the entire focus is on me. So imo elemental module would only make sense for colossus battles alone as a replacement for Agony and even then only against the STRONGEST colossus. Now it was already possible to create a 200k defense Ajax for maximum barrier protection prior to the update but that’s ONLY if you cut your HP down tremdously basically making you a barrier build ONLY. I don’t want that…I want to be a barrier support yes AND a tank which Body Enhancement with its void energy buff seems to the best balanced transcendent mod for that. But we’ll see…I’m wondering if maxing frost resistance and going Life Barrier over Body Enhancement would be sufficient for Ajax’s barriers to face tank Gluttony’s attacks while still maintaining over 30k HP on Ajax (as it would permit I’ve seen). THAT may be the new meta tank build for Ajax but ONLY…ONLY…if his barriers are finally durable enough to not get popped in seconds by Gluttony and then also the NEXT colossus coming…. EDIT UPDATE: So I slapped on 8k chill resist through both component sensor and cold antibody module and it made ZERO DIFFERENCE with Gluttony lol. Both ME AND my barriers appeared to take same damage. That’s only a change that resulted in 60k defense vs 65k too….so if you wanted proof elemental resist is garbage in this game…anyway My hyper sphere can finally take a FEW hits from Gluttony but only in the beginning at his weakest damage. Once his damage increases it gets one tapped. And chill resistance made no apparent difference, at least one not to care about. Conclusion: don’t bother with elemental resist on Ajax still. Going for mana related bonuses on components and anything else module wise is better.
Youre building for barriers wrong. You need 30k HP with Life Barrier. This will let you tank gluttonies shots. Also, can still hit 42k HP with body enhancement
@@Bignuke87 Only way you hit 42 is returning yo overwhelming hp and stacking shield which for only a 10% increase at best is not remotely worth all those module changes. You can’t stack resistance and keep that and I showed on my updated videos in this comment As for Life Barrier, already considered but frankly my barriers still feel durable enough for Gluttony and prefer keeping my character tankier with BE since you’ll inevitably take hits and can’t solely rely on barriers. Better balance imo.
@@foxnfire6388 Im glad its working for you, I just would rather use either max skill preset for dungeons or life barrier for bossing. I dont need body enhancement setup for any hard mode content, the max mob setup works fine. My main issue is that the key new feature of body enhancement is that with 1 second skill cooldowns and low skill cost, you can take literally 2 secinds or less and have your full void energy each time without the drawbacks from body enhancement (and for what gain, a bit of hp shield and def?) I did just put together that shield recharge build with body enhancement, instead of overwhelming shield went with conditional recharge and walk a tight rope, in addition to the seasonal mod that restores shield on grapple hook usage (using mid air manuever). Its a pretty awesome build for the hard mode dungeons and invasions, because you can spam your skills to keep your shield up, and body enhancement in this case makes it real easy to keep the extra shield bonus from void walk up 100%. So you end up with like 14-15k shield, and around 10k HP but can constsntly regen the shield through skill usage and grappling hook. This might also work on Kyle, not sure.
@@Bignuke87 That’s cool but I would never make a build that relies on the seasonal buffs. I hate the idea of it just being taken away anyway in a couple months so wouldn’t even want to get used to it only to see it go. I mean that happens with builds sometimes when they nerf crap I know but difference is they may not and you may have a similar build rest of game life. Seasonal buffs just tells you to your face “You won’t keep this!” It’s why I don’t plan to use ANY of them beyond the ones that help your seasonal progression alone that’s it. But I made a void walker build for his “missions” loadout I really like now. Haven’t tried it in invasions yet but based on what I’ve seen I’m sure it’s tanky enough with barrier spamming on command too and will be fine while being able to enjoy skill usage more just for the heck of it really. m.ruclips.net/video/0VHIQWxuPnk/видео.html
@@foxnfire6388 I saw that, gave you a view and a like on it already actually. The seasonal buff part isnt really the key to the build, just a little extra regen. Im trying Kyle now and let me say, at least Ajax isnt Kyle 😂
@@kingcrimson7014 😂 very true. Ajax will still always be my personal fav just because I’ve always preferred playing as a tank. But speaking of my “tank build” for Bunny (not even dps remotely) STILL clears dungeons infinitely faster. m.ruclips.net/video/8xXjce4XaLo/видео.html Ajax definitely needs love. For 90% of content just use Bunny. For 10% of colossus content, use Lepic dps build or now the new Hailey
Thank you. I've made several posts on this in different places in the hopes that someone with a platform would speak on it. You're the first RUclipsr I've seen speak on it. This nerf was entirely uncalled for. Ajax was lagging behind other descendants anyways and was only keeping up by being the best tank out there. And tanking isn't the meta anyways. It's DPS. I'm not calling for a nerf to any character or weapon, but it's not right that of everyone that could potentially be nerfed in the meta, the guy who tanks and doesn't shine is the one they choose to target. Gley: infinite rocket spam can DPS bosses to the ground. Lepic: Cruel sun spam can DPS bosses to the ground. Bunny: Can DPS bosses and is bar none the best aoe farmer, can sprint ahead and in a wide range, simply delete the enemies. Sharen: Can be a high boss killer. Viessa: can delete bosses and has delete mobs with millions of damage. Hailey: Can 2 shot the hard mode Pyromancer without even being fully catalyzed, or even modded with over 14 million damage in a shot Heck, people have put out boss killing videos for Freyna, Esiemo and Blair. Valby and Enzo are great at increasing firearm damage. Some Yujin's claim to be tankier than some Ajax are and they have a boss killing build. Ajax only kept up by way of his tankiness and ability to endure long past the point where other descendants would have fallen. That was his whole thing and how he survived the void as long as he did. So to nerf the character that wasn't even shining, wasn't meta breaking. Wasn't even physically keeping up in a dungeon and who has support skills that his teammates usually ignore.... And to say everyone else is fine as is...(except Jayber who was also nerfed) Is crazy. Of everything that could be nerfed, how game breaking was Ajax? His damage came from holding a gun and his enhanced orbit barrier only gives 10% more firearm damage and 30% more explosive damage....and he's likely not using explosives. People were already posting about being frustrated just seeing an Ajax in the squad for damage and how he was useless and the only counter was his survivability which gave DPS time to do their jobs when and IF the boss DECIDED to focus on Ajax and he could revive DPS in critical situations...and he's the nerfed character.... 30 percent less health. 30 percent less health recovery 30 percent longer cooldowns 20 percent more mana drain. To let us use skills that our teammates don't care about, that we already sacrificed just to be more tanky.... That's the guy and the mod that needed a nerf.... Ajax.... The hated one.
Yeah, I enjoy the careful methodical gunplay of Ajax when I do solo, but it falls apart in public when everyone is running ahead with fragile builds since it doesn't matter if you melt enemies before they fire.
@@fuyukashimoishi2424 Good evening. Just to be sure, are you referring to me? If so, then it's just because I was making comparisons to support my position that Ajax's need wasn't warranted and wasn't trying to make the post longer than it already was I also left out Kyle and Jayber. Luna has excellent team support and can enhance her overall team.
I was, and thank you! Sorry for the slow response, was trying to farm for HP collector, was only succeeding in getting Transcendent mods instead. That's understandable though, concerning the post length, and knowing someone who uses Ajax (on the side, they're a Blair main), I fully agree. Here's to hoping they fix Ajax/revert the nerf and that whatever you farm for results in a positive net gain! o/ @@Swordmaster757
yea thats it im out just another helldivers good for a plat run by tools i only just got ultimate ajax cpla days ago was still doing him up but i was sure something wasnt right after the update, im not spending hundreds of hours doing up characters with time and resources for these knobheads to turn around and trash em in seconds . . same as helldivers
@@808nemec yeah, maybe this game isnt for you. this is the problem with one trick pony builds. once something gets reworked, youre build is useless. this game is like a lovechild of destiny and warframe where things get reworked or change every season. thats why you have to take it to account ang build something dynamic. so you can adjust when things change. this isnt a single player game where you can just take one single build until you beat it. its a live service game where thinga always change.
@@YubuuCH yea i stopped playing destiny after 6000 hours (it wasnt always like that . . member)for exactly that , and a bunch of other asshole dev choices, and no ur one of the few thats ok with it people DONT enjoy having there time wasted and games such as destiny , helldivers ect that make a habit of it DO suffer for it
@@YubuuCH also u dont have one character ur meant to play with the others thats were the other builds are, lol it seems to me you dont play these games much lol
for anyone wondering about a list of the nerfs -they increased the skill cost and skill cooldown by 20% and 30% -overwhelming hp no longer works like it did -Ajax doesnt get the cooldown buff from enhancement skills anymore (which was huge when full was 20%) -They didn't increase his damage at all which can kill trash mobs to an extent but doesnt even hit as hard as someone like bunny who can spam her abilities -Void Charge that scales off defense does less damage then removing it by almost 35% even with over 100k armor - also Body Enhancement also increases the cooldown in general of your abilities now idk what you're on but that isnt a buff in my opinion
My BE Ajax went from 56k HP pre patch to 42k post patch, and lost a good chunk of defense as well. Oh well, at least now I can get rid of Overwhelming HP and all the shield mods to open up for some new build options...
@@jasonbourne4865 sounds about right. My 57k hp 50k defense dropped to 43k 40k plus skills cost more and the higher cooldown meant I couldn’t keep barriers up indefinitely on same build. But I did some rebuilding here and more fine tuning in this video now you may want to check out. The result is still a nerfed Ajax imo sadly. I would still take the hp over all of this with how much the hp buff was. BUT I think I’ve successfully mitigated as much as can still justifying body enhancement to retain a super tank who now just helps his teams in boss fights more, instead. The change basically means I also just cast orbit barrier and hyper sphere in quick succession to always gain the enhancement on hyper sphere for a firearm increase constantly for everyone in it. I think that buff should be BUFFED but hey it’s something right? m.ruclips.net/video/_XpQwwhARlQ/видео.html
Does anyone know if both orbit barrier and hyper cube elemental resistance are scaled on the character elemental resistance or it's fixed at 100% value and cannot be influenced ?
@@unmecnormal9945 They now scale off how much elemental resist your character has too. If you read the stats on the skill in the descendant menu it’ll make it clear. So my hyper cube, for instance says it scales off 100% of my hp, 200% defense, and 100% resistance. So it basically has my same stats but with 120k defense instead of 60k. That’s probably also why they appear to go down at the same speed as you would. So in this Gluttony fight his super canon ability can still 2 or 3 shot me and seems to be same on my barriers, whereas they appear fine during their durations against any of his other attacks. And speaking of yes I updated the build again to now stack a ton of resistance too. IMO, hp and defense are superior to resist and if you have to choose between them always go with hp/defense. It’s why I still won’t use much resist on any other descendant. But solely on a colossus tank build Ajax, I now see a use for it and found out how to truly max his stats here. m.ruclips.net/video/KYkeBU2w3Z4/видео.html
Have you tried the Void Explosion build where you can spam your 3? I feel like people are sleeping on it a bit. Everyone doing moxys stupid hulk slam meme build. It really allows you to fly thru dungeons without the ridiculous lack of control that the expulsion build has
And that’s the problem. In Lore Ajax survived the Void and had to swap hands with Colossi on the daily. Why isn’t he allowed to ability DPS a boss to death when the HEALER can do it 😂 That’s crazy. All through the game and even in Hard I am blasting chunks off of bosses with Void Walk and Expulsion but get into an Intercept and it feels blowing on paper and throwing twigs. Bring back the Beta Void Walk that made him casually hit millions of damage. Everybody else is doing it. And up his firearm buff too. Then the one niche he Does completely dominate you nerf into the absolute ground. I don’t even want to use Body Enhancement at this point…
Just wanted to make a mention to kyle which furthers our point that Ajax needed a bud not a nerf. Kyle can renew his shields and the teams every 6 seconds on his 2 ability. That's without searching the ground constantly for supplies. Unfortunately that makes him the actual tank for most content. Check zookos you tube build to see what im referring to. I personally would rather build into ajax since he is ultimate vs making kyle only to have an ultimate version come available in the future lol
@@nccrpatrol Kyle is only a “tank” for mission farming. I’d never use that build for any of the hardest colossi and even normal colossi half of what he does on it becomes useless in the fight since he can’t one tap the boss anymore. And you can build bunny with hp collector and 26k hp to feel just as tanky as Kyle too while still wiping everything. You can make every descendant feel “tanky” but Ajax is the only real tank in game with stats able to scale substantially higher even post nerf and his barriers offer much more consistent protection obviously for both himself and teammates. But yes Ajax need more love. So does Kyle actually because his jet pack damage now feels like nothing even with max shield build
I'm glad the enhancement skills is back on it, but the skill cost screwed it pretty bad, but the only thing that can beat this mod is that if they was to give him a firearm enhance proportionate to his Defense
@@dredgen0268 I show it at end of video just pause as I go through it. You can read my pinned comment too. However I’ve updated it again. Swapped Agony for Psychological Victory. Agony just doesn’t give hardly any extra defense so the 10.5 mitigation offers more tankiness overall and the mp recovery makes up the mana loss. Finally, I’ve determined while elemental resist is inferior to hp and defense and you definitely shouldn’t trade any of that for resist, I realized focus on non attribute is mostly useless in colossus fights. Also 5k resist is all you need to gain max efficiency similar to 25k defense. So I will make new load outs where I remove the focus mod for a different elemental resist mod depending on the colossus you fight. That would add another 15-20% less damage from most of their attacks just with the blue resist mods maxed out. And the trade off is worth it as your cooldown will still be enough to maintain barriers nigh infinitely and skill power does not benefit his barrier skills only his character’s stats. That mod is solely for his AoE skills to do more damage which is virtually useless in colossus fights. But basically, if you ever use him outside colossi you’d equip focus on non attribute for more skill damage and cooldown and because elemental resistances are truly next to useless and unneeded anywhere else in game. But then when you fight colossi you’ll swap it out for an elemental resist buffing both you and your barriers further against more damage. The annoying part is it means you’ll have to resocket him multiple times lol. But I believe that together with a skill cost and CDR reactor and a maxed Enduring Legacy for damage would finally complete him as the tankiest version of Ajax still capable of great team support too.
If you can get 20k shields without actual doing anything related to shield. The i can see why they changed it. I get hes ment as a tank sort of. But thats still t brutal in comparison to everyone else
Max shields for ajax now is 11,500 or so. And thats with overwhelming shield. With body enhance, overwhelming shield, walk a tight rope, and shot focus, you can run a low HP ajax with 11500 shield that can be constantly boosted and have shield self regenned due to the body enhancement changes, with constant +50% firearm damage. Also with overwhelming shield, you dont take damage from boss intercept toxic floors. These youtubers need to think outside the box. I run the newly buffed life bsrrier with range and cooldown with 30k HP and it can tank multiple gluttony hits
Max shields for ajax now is 11,500 or so. And thats with overwhelming shield. With body enhance, overwhelming shield, walk a tight rope, and shot focus, you can run a low HP ajax with 11500 shield that can be constantly boosted and have shield self regenned due to the body enhancement changes, with constant +50% firearm damage. Also with overwhelming shield, you dont take damage from boss intercept toxic floors. These youtubers need to think outside the box. I run the newly buffed life bsrrier with range and cooldown with 30k HP and it can tank multiple gluttony hits
@@Bignuke87 I was about to say there’s no way you can take that shield build into hardest colossi when your barriers aren’t getting buffed hardly at all. As for Life Barrier, I already considered that but it doesn’t really buff orbit barrier much more compared to just keeping body enhancement only hyper cube. I considered it in my pinned comment to the updated version of this build stacking resist now. It’s a good alternative but I think the extra hp, hp recovery, and defense BE provides trumps imo since you will always still take hits to your character not just your barriers. Also, I feel my barriers were still strong though in this test fight. m.ruclips.net/video/KYkeBU2w3Z4/видео.html
@@foxnfire6388 i saw this after and I strongly believe you should swap to life barrier regardless with max range and good cooldown (or at least get orbit to 10-15 second cooldown) You can still get 29-30k HP, and the barriers can be instantly recast while being super tanky. I was using gluttony to level up the MK2 armor (before i saw the laser room cheese) my life barriers were absorbing 750k-1million damage per gluttony fight, not to be confused with reflected damage. The body enhancement change outside of the shield build i just mentioned is definitely trash, because its basically now a jack of all trades master of none mod...before, it made you into pure tank ajax, barriers or not., Now its not the best tanky build (thats life barrier now imo) nor the best mobbing build-i did try body enhance with HP and skill build but id rather just pop 2 skills on 1 sec cooldown and get enhanced that way (void charge mod with max cooldown and multitalented). But ya know whats the worst of all? The fact void barrier looks so cool to use, and it literally useless. At least let me fire a hand cannon with it lol
@@Bignuke87 Yeah that would the biggest positive to me…losing the stupid CDR and skill cost nerf they added to be. You can literally take my build and just replace be with lb. But my issue again is be still boasts strong barriers but keeps you alive outside them even better. And as long as you don’t duel cast orbit barrier and hyper cube often it’s still easy to maintain them. You see the fight I never struggled to keep a barrier out. NOW..if they would just add an aggro ability to Ajax so you can keep Gluttony focused on you, THEN Life Barrier would make the most sense to me finally.
kinda sad since up to this day tank isn't needed. i know some players like to build tank but reality this game is about dps with survivability. so tbh other descendants will likely outshine him on every mode.
Very true. Honestly Ajax was USELESS even before this. You don’t need a tank to one tap every colossus up to gluttony and even on him you don’t need Ajax plus they made his damage so high he kills even Ajax tanks quickly. And you sure don’t need tanks or barriers in every single other mission of game. Maybe his ONLY shining moment is farming the new invasion dungeons when you are forced to stand in one place absorbing all the damage. Even then you can get through on a “tank builds” for all other descendants. I just prefer playing as a true pure tank but this game denies that style clearly especially when also every final colossus has instant kill mechanics too
others descendant do actually outshine Ajax, but we all know when u on colossus fight and u meet an Ajax, u know he always cover ur back and because it's his role to absorb damage protecting u with his shield. Now Nexon just troll all Ajax main
@@booker949 no.. i think, i less damage dealer, who just casting shield and makes the battle longer.. i'd rather have 3 lepics / 3 gleys than meeting 3 ajax.
Relax lol. They're very receptive with feedback. Give them some time to address it. If people want to quit then go for it. I was devastated to see my shield drop down by 29k, but it didn't destroy my build as a whole. Be patient.
@@TheDarklord517 The problem with shields is that they are too little compared to health, which the old mod fixed by giving a lot of shields. Defense applies to shields just the same, so they were basically extra health.
They’re “receptive” because it’s all planned to profit them. Why do you think the invasion dungeon grind for Hailey was and still is insane? And why is Hailey insanely broken for damage? Because players will understandably screw the grind and buy her, then after the season is up they’ll nerf her next probably. That’s the intent. I’m only cautiously optimistic because I doubt they’ll nerf Ajax again, at least, but we’ll see.
@@janrespicio7394 Not an upgrade but gives him like 5x health, def, and shield of anyone else. It still makes you the hardest to kill, just now its not the ONLY mod you would take on him.
@@Leonhart_93 5x health in comparison to everyone else. Did you think i meant in general for him? He's a tank that scales abilities off being tanky. wow, what a concept.
The biggest problem when i play ajax (or any other character) is that I have to run behind a bunny that has already killed everything and I DONT GET TO PLAY THE GAME. every infiltration I play there is at least one bunny ruining the entire mission until the boss
1. The old body enhancement literally disables your unique resources (void energy or smth) while the new one gives you 100% resources upon casting skill, which enables you to use enhanced skill that gives you reflect AND increased firearm atk 2. You don't need that much HP and defenses. 40 k is plenty enough. Feels like you're all complaining cause the numbers got lowered but you forgot how he now can buff all his teammates inside the bubble and reflect boss damage which significantly increases his contribution in DPS number rather than wasting 57k HP for no reason.
@@Asegard reflect damage is trash in colossi when you can one tap most of them with just straight dps builds. Meanwhile EVEN with the buffs his barriers STILL get destroyed by Gluttony, the ONLY colossus where Ajax could be needed but only if he can still tank hits both on barriers and character which nope he can’t. And 10% firearm atk for the sphere buff is PATHETIC!!!!!! In any event, I very clearly stated the void energy buffs were something, at the very least, but players like you who hype those garbage tiny buffs up like it’s OP to defend Nexon now are laughable. If it were up to me, I’d change the buffs so orbit barrier no longer does reflect at all but becomes invincible to all damage finally being a true tanky counter to Gluttony (and not being OP here since it’s not the giant sphere and doesn’t reflect) and then add a 50% hp and defense buff for allies inside the enhanced sphere finally mitigating the NERF they have to Ajax AND making the buff inside finally worth it for teammates to stay in, as it would allow the true dps members to survive longer to become more efficient in their focused damage rather than dying and running for their lives. But of course they won’t do that. At best they’ll change the pitiful 10% weapon buff inside the sphere to 15% AND slap on another 5% CDR penalty to hyper cube (cause NOTHING in this game can’t have penalties) and call it a day. Then you’ll return again whining “What you whining about?! Ajax is awesome!”
Please use time-stamp. Non time-stamped video just gives me the urge to hit the walls... Anyway, thx for updates but here's the thing : I wonder how you get these HP... Cause I have even better stuff than you, I even use Overwhelming HP over HP collector and yet I only reach 32k hp. I also use you Battle stamina that grants more hp than HP Amplification, and yet you have more 7k more hp than me, I don't get the math in this game... We all agree, Ajax now suxx so hard...
@@valos696 Battle of Stamina doesn’t give more HP that’s why it is a double buff while HP Amplification nerfs shield (which we don’t need anymore). I do agree though I feel the game doesn’t always give every player the same stats for builds which is bs. And I updated the build again go to 6:00 in this video to see my start showing everything and pause as needed to screenshot. m.ruclips.net/video/_XpQwwhARlQ/видео.html
@@foxnfire6388 I've seen the whole video, thus my post. You have 498,1% HP bonus where I have 508,4% HP bonus + 14,2% hp of my max shield. Yet you have 7k HP more than me. 7k is too huge difference while I have more bonus than you. So indeed, there's something messed up in the game.
@@valos696 Battle of Stamina yields way less hp than HP Amplification. You can look online and confirm the true numbers so maybe your game is giving you visual bugs if it’s telling you that mod gives more hp
@@foxnfire6388 My bad, I was mistaking, it's not Battle of Stamina which gives 122% but Stim Accelerant that I use, which gives 234% HP bonus where your HP Amplification only gives 227%
@@valos696 oh. Well the other possible explanation is the visual Albion bug. You don’t see your true stats until you enter a combat area or the laboratory. Go the lab and see if your stats say the same
They said they buffed void shards in Special Operation missions. Yes it is true instead of getting one Single Shard about halfway through the rounds or waves it turns into two shards per drop. The only problem is they are dropping significantly less than they were. I was getting more voice shards before this so-called buff in Special Operation missions than I am now. I don't know I want to love the game but I am not impressed with this update. Other than a few quality of life updates I'm kind of disappointed. This is not going to bring players to the game. They will show up this weekend and see and then they will leave again
why tf would you farm void shards in special operations lmaoo. where you can run the actual void shard farm and get like 50 for 5mins of your time. are you high? sonetimes its not even 5mins. its even less
yea thats it im out just another helldivers good for a plat run by tools i only just got ultimate ajax cpla days ago was still doing him up but i was sure something wasnt right after the update, im not spending hundreds of hours doing up characters with time and resources for these knobheads to turn around and trash em in seconds . . same as helldivers
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 lol yea i didnt stik around long enuff to find out thought it was lil lite on myself pluus they nerfrd a bunch o crap i was using, but it was great for a mnth or so, this bugs me most i think as i put actual money into leveling up and i do agree that they have been very quick with trying to keep us happy , which sort of makes the s1 update a little baffling i think they thought wed actually like these inversion thingimys lol , but its cool il look back on this as just as much fun as the divers but now i can fully enjoy warhammer nxt weelk and not feel conflicted that i actually wana play this lolz
Devs have stated they want build diversity. Is killing certain builds for no reason conducive to build diversity? Can we trust anything Nexon says if their idea of incentivizing build diversity is giving us less viable builds to choose from?
They haven’t made the updates to deal with ONE character being the only character that matters in the game. It’s a problem I don’t think they can fix without a straight nerf to her
@kingcurmudgeon8685 They will either nerf Bunny or wait around long enough to see that people don't want to play other characters for world activities. Or weapons. There is really no point when everything else is slower in comparison.
only thing keeping me playing are the funny ass players that I enjoy. Like when you're chilling at an outpost waiting on Sharon to do her thing and out of nowhere you hear that annoying giggle and ruins the mission. Most of the time you see her coming. The electricity and grappling. It's damn near slow motion while you're screaming nooooooooo. Then there's Valby with the bong bong bong all day if you're farming with her. The list goes on.
Ok so everyone wants these super builds I get it but if everyone can clear to endgame so quick what then you want more but most will not want to pay for it........ So I think to many complain about changes do they suck hell yeah as a veteran gamer coming atw from the 80's people want to complete things so quick and get the best stuff so quick it kills the game so if you can have anything unlimited that's not a proper game mechanic you always need to be at risk it's what makes a game fun only TRUE gamers know exactly what I'm saying sorry to all those that will not understand the true meaning of gaming THIS IS NOT A RANT ON THE CREATOR OF THIS VIDEO!!
This is what I hate about games like this. I don't have tons of time to play so when I finally get the stuff to make a cool build it gets nerfed. It's just so maddening to me.
@@DelbertStinkfester yup then you gotta change the build and they don’t compensate you ever. If you keep playing, though, I’ve updated and perfected this build now I think. Requires multiple loadouts, though, for different elemental resists and a lot of resocking for that reason. But end result is another Ajax able to face tank every boss in game except Gluttony BUT finally feels like he can survive better than others against him too and have barriers that can finally take hits from him. m.ruclips.net/video/KYkeBU2w3Z4/видео.html
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 This is a damage oriented game right now. A full dps descendant can carry bad players or players with sub par builds. If you want an unkillable Ajax to stand there and revive players until the timer runs out, go ahead.
It's really good for soloing stuff, as it NEVER goes down, don't need anyone to revive you. Carried me through really hard content without dying even once.
So? Body enhancement was useless anyway. U dont build him tanky, if you do youre clueless and useless to the game. Ajax can be insane farmer but you wont know it because "ugh i NeEd mOrE Hp and deF" 💩
@@spriestplayer2329 oh yeah that’s smart….build the only Descendant described as a “tank” in entire game into a wannabe Bunny that’s still inferior to her farming speed at the end of the day. Brilliant logic!
Oof ajax nerf, I can't tank. My 57k hp is now 40k. Shows his build and you don't even have elemental resistances. 😂 Do you even know how much def is optimal before the damage resist is negligible? Did you know def doesn't work on shields? Do you even know that def doesn't reduce elemental damage? You wonder why you don't feel tanky but you don't bother to learn these things. 😂 All you want is high numbers without knowing how much effective hp you actually have. The Body Enhance mod was straight up buffed cause now you can have that atk buff that the bubble gives. You can actually help with the dps now WHILE having a tankier bubble. You're all so fixated on having such high def and hp numbers when in fact your overall ehp is jackshit. 😂 The MP costs doesn't even matter cause you won't be casting more due to the fact that you can have an enhanced skill every other cast. Cooldown isn't that bad either, you won't need to cast the bubble that frequently cause it's not supposed to break if you have the right "tank" build. The overall ehp of the bubble will be so much higher than what it used to be because of the changes plus again the fact that you don't lose the atk buff when it's enhanced makes you more useful than being portable defibrillator. 😂
That works now but prior to the rework his abilities only scaled off of def and hp to be fair. Now there is no reason to not to use attribute resistances.
@@helpami7913 Elementsl resists are TRASH for YOURSELF and always have been. Research any video going through the actual math of hp, defense, resists. Also, wrong…defense DOES MITIGATE elemental attacks. Now the question no one has tested yet is whether elemental resists matter a jot for your BARRIERS NOW with the new update. But saying they have always been OP is laughable and uh…I’m NOT DYING…you clearly didn’t watch anything
@@foxnfire6388 wdym "trash for yourself" isnt the point of a tanky build to not die and to actually tank damage? youre wondering why toxic fux you over? cus you have no resistance to it. you dont need math for it. its common sense. hes saying you dont need to sacrifice a fuckton of utility and dps jsut to have hp and def maxed. you plan on just standing there and take damage? the point is. you can just build your hp, def, resists just enuf so you can take a beating without sacrificing your personal damage. which the new changes to body enhancement gives. ajax has more to him than just a walking defib.
FINAL MOST RECENT EDIT:
This build was updated again with elemental resist for colossi only. See build after fight around 9:30
m.ruclips.net/video/KYkeBU2w3Z4/видео.html
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I’ve considered one more change to this build. Agony is great due to a defense and mp buff further assisting barriers, but both buffs are small.
Elemental resist is still garbage in general missions as any enemy except a colossus does not inflict enough of it to matter (possible exception is toxic especially the Bio Lab boss).
So I’ll probably keep Agony for general missions (if I decide to punish myself using him instead of Bunny of course).
However, I think one more change is to add elemental resist module in place of agony with the new update affecting your barrier. Elemental resist is still trash compared to HP and defense (as any guide out there will tell you that’s run the numbers) which is why I still don’t think it’s worth any investment on your components beyond toxic you see on my processor. That’s only because the processor doesn’t offer any other combat related substats relevant to this build.
But mp recovery out of combat with another HP buff on auxiliary power is non negotiable. No one will convince me fire resist is better for replacing EITHER of those (especially when HP affects barrier strength TOO) so already that means you’re out on elemental resist component wise.
But the toughest boss in game is Gluttony who is frost then a toxic one later. Gluttony usually almost one taps Ajax’s barriers.
So I’m going to test this and see if, for example, having chill resist over mo recovery in combat on the sensor and then cold antibody over agony on my modules would be enough for my hyper cube to tank Gluttony’s attacks.
I think…probably not…I still very much doubt elemental resist is worth ANY investment because right now my barriers are already strong enough to last their full duration up to Molten Fortress and I’ve never seen any mob swam in any kind of mission take it out either even when the entire focus is on me.
So imo elemental module would only make sense for colossus battles alone as a replacement for Agony and even then only against the STRONGEST colossus.
Now it was already possible to create a 200k defense Ajax for maximum barrier protection prior to the update but that’s ONLY if you cut your HP down tremdously basically making you a barrier build ONLY.
I don’t want that…I want to be a barrier support yes AND a tank which Body Enhancement with its void energy buff seems to the best balanced transcendent mod for that.
But we’ll see…I’m wondering if maxing frost resistance and going Life Barrier over Body Enhancement would be sufficient for Ajax’s barriers to face tank Gluttony’s attacks while still maintaining over 30k HP on Ajax (as it would permit I’ve seen). THAT may be the new meta tank build for Ajax but ONLY…ONLY…if his barriers are finally durable enough to not get popped in seconds by Gluttony and then also the NEXT colossus coming….
EDIT UPDATE: So I slapped on 8k chill resist through both component sensor and cold antibody module and it made ZERO DIFFERENCE with Gluttony lol. Both ME AND my barriers appeared to take same damage.
That’s only a change that resulted in 60k defense vs 65k too….so if you wanted proof elemental resist is garbage in this game…anyway My hyper sphere can finally take a FEW hits from Gluttony but only in the beginning at his weakest damage. Once his damage increases it gets one tapped.
And chill resistance made no apparent difference, at least one not to care about.
Conclusion: don’t bother with elemental resist on Ajax still. Going for mana related bonuses on components and anything else module wise is better.
Youre building for barriers wrong. You need 30k HP with Life Barrier. This will let you tank gluttonies shots. Also, can still hit 42k HP with body enhancement
@@Bignuke87 Only way you hit 42 is returning yo overwhelming hp and stacking shield which for only a 10% increase at best is not remotely worth all those module changes. You can’t stack resistance and keep that and I showed on my updated videos in this comment
As for Life Barrier, already considered but frankly my barriers still feel durable enough for Gluttony and prefer keeping my character tankier with BE since you’ll inevitably take hits and can’t solely rely on barriers. Better balance imo.
@@foxnfire6388 Im glad its working for you, I just would rather use either max skill preset for dungeons or life barrier for bossing. I dont need body enhancement setup for any hard mode content, the max mob setup works fine. My main issue is that the key new feature of body enhancement is that with 1 second skill cooldowns and low skill cost, you can take literally 2 secinds or less and have your full void energy each time without the drawbacks from body enhancement (and for what gain, a bit of hp shield and def?) I did just put together that shield recharge build with body enhancement, instead of overwhelming shield went with conditional recharge and walk a tight rope, in addition to the seasonal mod that restores shield on grapple hook usage (using mid air manuever). Its a pretty awesome build for the hard mode dungeons and invasions, because you can spam your skills to keep your shield up, and body enhancement in this case makes it real easy to keep the extra shield bonus from void walk up 100%. So you end up with like 14-15k shield, and around 10k HP but can constsntly regen the shield through skill usage and grappling hook. This might also work on Kyle, not sure.
@@Bignuke87 That’s cool but I would never make a build that relies on the seasonal buffs. I hate the idea of it just being taken away anyway in a couple months so wouldn’t even want to get used to it only to see it go. I mean that happens with builds sometimes when they nerf crap I know but difference is they may not and you may have a similar build rest of game life. Seasonal buffs just tells you to your face “You won’t keep this!”
It’s why I don’t plan to use ANY of them beyond the ones that help your seasonal progression alone that’s it.
But I made a void walker build for his “missions” loadout I really like now. Haven’t tried it in invasions yet but based on what I’ve seen I’m sure it’s tanky enough with barrier spamming on command too and will be fine while being able to enjoy skill usage more just for the heck of it really.
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@@foxnfire6388 I saw that, gave you a view and a like on it already actually. The seasonal buff part isnt really the key to the build, just a little extra regen. Im trying Kyle now and let me say, at least Ajax isnt Kyle 😂
Players: Damn, bunny is so strong!
Nexon: Ajax nerf it is.
@@kingcrimson7014 😂 very true. Ajax will still always be my personal fav just because I’ve always preferred playing as a tank. But speaking of my “tank build” for Bunny (not even dps remotely) STILL clears dungeons infinitely faster.
m.ruclips.net/video/8xXjce4XaLo/видео.html
Ajax definitely needs love. For 90% of content just use Bunny. For 10% of colossus content, use Lepic dps build or now the new Hailey
Thank you. I've made several posts on this in different places in the hopes that someone with a platform would speak on it. You're the first RUclipsr I've seen speak on it. This nerf was entirely uncalled for. Ajax was lagging behind other descendants anyways and was only keeping up by being the best tank out there. And tanking isn't the meta anyways. It's DPS. I'm not calling for a nerf to any character or weapon, but it's not right that of everyone that could potentially be nerfed in the meta, the guy who tanks and doesn't shine is the one they choose to target.
Gley: infinite rocket spam can DPS bosses to the ground.
Lepic: Cruel sun spam can DPS bosses to the ground.
Bunny: Can DPS bosses and is bar none the best aoe farmer, can sprint ahead and in a wide range, simply delete the enemies.
Sharen: Can be a high boss killer.
Viessa: can delete bosses and has delete mobs with millions of damage.
Hailey: Can 2 shot the hard mode Pyromancer without even being fully catalyzed, or even modded with over 14 million damage in a shot
Heck, people have put out boss killing videos for Freyna, Esiemo and Blair.
Valby and Enzo are great at increasing firearm damage.
Some Yujin's claim to be tankier than some Ajax are and they have a boss killing build.
Ajax only kept up by way of his tankiness and ability to endure long past the point where other descendants would have fallen. That was his whole thing and how he survived the void as long as he did.
So to nerf the character that wasn't even shining, wasn't meta breaking. Wasn't even physically keeping up in a dungeon and who has support skills that his teammates usually ignore.... And to say everyone else is fine as is...(except Jayber who was also nerfed) Is crazy.
Of everything that could be nerfed, how game breaking was Ajax? His damage came from holding a gun and his enhanced orbit barrier only gives 10% more firearm damage and 30% more explosive damage....and he's likely not using explosives.
People were already posting about being frustrated just seeing an Ajax in the squad for damage and how he was useless and the only counter was his survivability which gave DPS time to do their jobs when and IF the boss DECIDED to focus on Ajax and he could revive DPS in critical situations...and he's the nerfed character....
30 percent less health.
30 percent less health recovery
30 percent longer cooldowns
20 percent more mana drain.
To let us use skills that our teammates don't care about, that we already sacrificed just to be more tanky....
That's the guy and the mod that needed a nerf....
Ajax.... The hated one.
All very true. I only use Ajax for my void explosion build to fly thru dungeons now .essentially making him an AoE character? That makes sense huh??!
Yeah, I enjoy the careful methodical gunplay of Ajax when I do solo, but it falls apart in public when everyone is running ahead with fragile builds since it doesn't matter if you melt enemies before they fire.
If I may ask, as you didn't mention her, what about Luna? Just genuinely curious.
@@fuyukashimoishi2424 Good evening. Just to be sure, are you referring to me?
If so, then it's just because I was making comparisons to support my position that Ajax's need wasn't warranted and wasn't trying to make the post longer than it already was I also left out Kyle and Jayber. Luna has excellent team support and can enhance her overall team.
I was, and thank you! Sorry for the slow response, was trying to farm for HP collector, was only succeeding in getting Transcendent mods instead. That's understandable though, concerning the post length, and knowing someone who uses Ajax (on the side, they're a Blair main), I fully agree. Here's to hoping they fix Ajax/revert the nerf and that whatever you farm for results in a positive net gain! o/ @@Swordmaster757
I'm so glad someone made a video about this nerf. I am pissed!
yea thats it im out just another helldivers good for a plat run by tools i only just got ultimate ajax cpla days ago was still doing him up but i was sure something wasnt right after the update, im not spending hundreds of hours doing up characters with time and resources for these knobheads to turn around and trash em in seconds . . same as helldivers
@@808nemec yeah, maybe this game isnt for you. this is the problem with one trick pony builds. once something gets reworked, youre build is useless. this game is like a lovechild of destiny and warframe where things get reworked or change every season. thats why you have to take it to account ang build something dynamic. so you can adjust when things change. this isnt a single player game where you can just take one single build until you beat it. its a live service game where thinga always change.
@@YubuuCH yea i stopped playing destiny after 6000 hours (it wasnt always like that . . member)for exactly that , and a bunch of other asshole dev choices, and no ur one of the few thats ok with it people DONT enjoy having there time wasted and games such as destiny , helldivers ect that make a habit of it DO suffer for it
@@YubuuCH also u dont have one character ur meant to play with the others thats were the other builds are, lol it seems to me you dont play these games much lol
@@YubuuCH and speaking of destiny howd that fatebringer nerf work out for em oh thats right they reverted it cause u know BACKLASH lol
for anyone wondering about a list of the nerfs
-they increased the skill cost and skill cooldown by 20% and 30%
-overwhelming hp no longer works like it did
-Ajax doesnt get the cooldown buff from enhancement skills anymore (which was huge when full was 20%)
-They didn't increase his damage at all which can kill trash mobs to an extent but doesnt even hit as hard as someone like bunny who can spam her abilities
-Void Charge that scales off defense does less damage then removing it by almost 35% even with over 100k armor
- also Body Enhancement also increases the cooldown in general of your abilities now idk what you're on but that isnt a buff in my opinion
NEXON, your rework on Ajax is suck. Give back our old Ajax
Get Good, learn How to play him...😂
for those wanting to know the actual build, he stops his ranting 6:50 into the 10 minute video and shows the mods lol
You'll want to go to the 5:55 time stamp he gives in the title because he shows components, reactor, and (if you care) weapon mods too.
My BE Ajax went from 56k HP pre patch to 42k post patch, and lost a good chunk of defense as well.
Oh well, at least now I can get rid of Overwhelming HP and all the shield mods to open up for some new build options...
@@jasonbourne4865 sounds about right. My 57k hp 50k defense dropped to 43k 40k plus skills cost more and the higher cooldown meant I couldn’t keep barriers up indefinitely on same build.
But I did some rebuilding here and more fine tuning in this video now you may want to check out.
The result is still a nerfed Ajax imo sadly. I would still take the hp over all of this with how much the hp buff was. BUT I think I’ve successfully mitigated as much as can still justifying body enhancement to retain a super tank who now just helps his teams in boss fights more, instead.
The change basically means I also just cast orbit barrier and hyper sphere in quick succession to always gain the enhancement on hyper sphere for a firearm increase constantly for everyone in it. I think that buff should be BUFFED but hey it’s something right?
m.ruclips.net/video/_XpQwwhARlQ/видео.html
Ok I’ve been raging all day cause I’ve been dropping all day dying non stop and I was confused thank you sir for the video
How did you get the conviction of steel armor?
Bro preach! I was so disappointed with this update!
Does anyone know if both orbit barrier and hyper cube elemental resistance are scaled on the character elemental resistance or it's fixed at 100% value and cannot be influenced ?
@@unmecnormal9945 They now scale off how much elemental resist your character has too. If you read the stats on the skill in the descendant menu it’ll make it clear. So my hyper cube, for instance says it scales off 100% of my hp, 200% defense, and 100% resistance.
So it basically has my same stats but with 120k defense instead of 60k. That’s probably also why they appear to go down at the same speed as you would. So in this Gluttony fight his super canon ability can still 2 or 3 shot me and seems to be same on my barriers, whereas they appear fine during their durations against any of his other attacks.
And speaking of yes I updated the build again to now stack a ton of resistance too. IMO, hp and defense are superior to resist and if you have to choose between them always go with hp/defense. It’s why I still won’t use much resist on any other descendant.
But solely on a colossus tank build Ajax, I now see a use for it and found out how to truly max his stats here.
m.ruclips.net/video/KYkeBU2w3Z4/видео.html
You need to use life barrier with gluttony @@foxnfire6388
Use life barrier and 30k HP, your barriers will be OP...dont even worry about drfense or resistances. Try it. I can tank gluttonies shots easily
My body enhancement doesn’t even work… literally no changes when equipped.
Sad to see Ajax got nerf, I hate nerfs in pve games
Have you tried the Void Explosion build where you can spam your 3? I feel like people are sleeping on it a bit. Everyone doing moxys stupid hulk slam meme build. It really allows you to fly thru dungeons without the ridiculous lack of control that the expulsion build has
i have that build but its only great for killing mobs and thats it.
And that’s the problem. In Lore Ajax survived the Void and had to swap hands with Colossi on the daily.
Why isn’t he allowed to ability DPS a boss to death when the HEALER can do it 😂
That’s crazy. All through the game and even in Hard I am blasting chunks off of bosses with Void Walk and Expulsion but get into an Intercept and it feels blowing on paper and throwing twigs.
Bring back the Beta Void Walk that made him casually hit millions of damage. Everybody else is doing it.
And up his firearm buff too.
Then the one niche he Does completely dominate you nerf into the absolute ground. I don’t even want to use Body Enhancement at this point…
Just wanted to make a mention to kyle which furthers our point that Ajax needed a bud not a nerf. Kyle can renew his shields and the teams every 6 seconds on his 2 ability. That's without searching the ground constantly for supplies. Unfortunately that makes him the actual tank for most content. Check zookos you tube build to see what im referring to. I personally would rather build into ajax since he is ultimate vs making kyle only to have an ultimate version come available in the future lol
@@nccrpatrol Kyle is only a “tank” for mission farming. I’d never use that build for any of the hardest colossi and even normal colossi half of what he does on it becomes useless in the fight since he can’t one tap the boss anymore.
And you can build bunny with hp collector and 26k hp to feel just as tanky as Kyle too while still wiping everything. You can make every descendant feel “tanky” but Ajax is the only real tank in game with stats able to scale substantially higher even post nerf and his barriers offer much more consistent protection obviously for both himself and teammates.
But yes Ajax need more love. So does Kyle actually because his jet pack damage now feels like nothing even with max shield build
And yes you got my sub and like ✌️
I'm glad the enhancement skills is back on it, but the skill cost screwed it pretty bad, but the only thing that can beat this mod is that if they was to give him a firearm enhance proportionate to his Defense
I was considering grinding for Ajax next. I guess not LOL
Life Barrier is super OP now, and you xan still get over 43k HP with Body Enhancement
Even matrix recomputation been badly nerfed, lost about 6/8k shield 😢for tank.. Ajax doesn’t feel like it anymore lol
Having the matrix modd has been changed. The multiplier has changed when u stack the leap with expulsion.
I don't use body enhancement I didn't realize it was nerfed. Ajax needs only buffs and better mods
So..what’s the build for ult Ajax now? I just finished crafting him..
@@dredgen0268 I show it at end of video just pause as I go through it. You can read my pinned comment too.
However I’ve updated it again. Swapped Agony for Psychological Victory. Agony just doesn’t give hardly any extra defense so the 10.5 mitigation offers more tankiness overall and the mp recovery makes up the mana loss.
Finally, I’ve determined while elemental resist is inferior to hp and defense and you definitely shouldn’t trade any of that for resist, I realized focus on non attribute is mostly useless in colossus fights.
Also 5k resist is all you need to gain max efficiency similar to 25k defense. So I will make new load outs where I remove the focus mod for a different elemental resist mod depending on the colossus you fight. That would add another 15-20% less damage from most of their attacks just with the blue resist mods maxed out.
And the trade off is worth it as your cooldown will still be enough to maintain barriers nigh infinitely and skill power does not benefit his barrier skills only his character’s stats. That mod is solely for his AoE skills to do more damage which is virtually useless in colossus fights.
But basically, if you ever use him outside colossi you’d equip focus on non attribute for more skill damage and cooldown and because elemental resistances are truly next to useless and unneeded anywhere else in game. But then when you fight colossi you’ll swap it out for an elemental resist buffing both you and your barriers further against more damage.
The annoying part is it means you’ll have to resocket him multiple times lol.
But I believe that together with a skill cost and CDR reactor and a maxed Enduring Legacy for damage would finally complete him as the tankiest version of Ajax still capable of great team support too.
@@dredgen0268 I will make another updated video to the build soon and link it in my pinned comment
If you can get 20k shields without actual doing anything related to shield.
The i can see why they changed it.
I get hes ment as a tank sort of.
But thats still t brutal in comparison to everyone else
57k hp is in comparison to others, so so much more that it well again makes sense.
Max shields for ajax now is 11,500 or so. And thats with overwhelming shield. With body enhance, overwhelming shield, walk a tight rope, and shot focus, you can run a low HP ajax with 11500 shield that can be constantly boosted and have shield self regenned due to the body enhancement changes, with constant +50% firearm damage. Also with overwhelming shield, you dont take damage from boss intercept toxic floors. These youtubers need to think outside the box. I run the newly buffed life bsrrier with range and cooldown with 30k HP and it can tank multiple gluttony hits
@@Bignuke87 the biggest upside of body is that you now only need one ability cast to get the enhanced version instead of 3
@@RazzzorGaming right but with a max skill build you literally have 1 second cooldowns so getting to enhanced is nothing, know what I mean?
Max shields for ajax now is 11,500 or so. And thats with overwhelming shield. With body enhance, overwhelming shield, walk a tight rope, and shot focus, you can run a low HP ajax with 11500 shield that can be constantly boosted and have shield self regenned due to the body enhancement changes, with constant +50% firearm damage. Also with overwhelming shield, you dont take damage from boss intercept toxic floors. These youtubers need to think outside the box. I run the newly buffed life bsrrier with range and cooldown with 30k HP and it can tank multiple gluttony hits
@@Bignuke87 I was about to say there’s no way you can take that shield build into hardest colossi when your barriers aren’t getting buffed hardly at all.
As for Life Barrier, I already considered that but it doesn’t really buff orbit barrier much more compared to just keeping body enhancement only hyper cube.
I considered it in my pinned comment to the updated version of this build stacking resist now. It’s a good alternative but I think the extra hp, hp recovery, and defense BE provides trumps imo since you will always still take hits to your character not just your barriers. Also, I feel my barriers were still strong though in this test fight.
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@@Bignuke87 The shield version may be good for mobbing though.
@@foxnfire6388 i saw this after and I strongly believe you should swap to life barrier regardless with max range and good cooldown (or at least get orbit to 10-15 second cooldown) You can still get 29-30k HP, and the barriers can be instantly recast while being super tanky. I was using gluttony to level up the MK2 armor (before i saw the laser room cheese) my life barriers were absorbing 750k-1million damage per gluttony fight, not to be confused with reflected damage. The body enhancement change outside of the shield build i just mentioned is definitely trash, because its basically now a jack of all trades master of none mod...before, it made you into pure tank ajax, barriers or not., Now its not the best tanky build (thats life barrier now imo) nor the best mobbing build-i did try body enhance with HP and skill build but id rather just pop 2 skills on 1 sec cooldown and get enhanced that way (void charge mod with max cooldown and multitalented). But ya know whats the worst of all? The fact void barrier looks so cool to use, and it literally useless. At least let me fire a hand cannon with it lol
@@Bignuke87 Yeah that would the biggest positive to me…losing the stupid CDR and skill cost nerf they added to be.
You can literally take my build and just replace be with lb.
But my issue again is be still boasts strong barriers but keeps you alive outside them even better. And as long as you don’t duel cast orbit barrier and hyper cube often it’s still easy to maintain them. You see the fight I never struggled to keep a barrier out.
NOW..if they would just add an aggro ability to Ajax so you can keep Gluttony focused on you, THEN Life Barrier would make the most sense to me finally.
kinda sad since up to this day tank isn't needed. i know some players like to build tank but reality this game is about dps with survivability. so tbh other descendants will likely outshine him on every mode.
Very true. Honestly Ajax was USELESS even before this. You don’t need a tank to one tap every colossus up to gluttony and even on him you don’t need Ajax plus they made his damage so high he kills even Ajax tanks quickly.
And you sure don’t need tanks or barriers in every single other mission of game. Maybe his ONLY shining moment is farming the new invasion dungeons when you are forced to stand in one place absorbing all the damage. Even then you can get through on a “tank builds” for all other descendants.
I just prefer playing as a true pure tank but this game denies that style clearly especially when also every final colossus has instant kill mechanics too
It’s funny whenever I pop a wall or a bubble Hailey comes running right beside me so she can pop her 2 which has like a 3 second animation
Do you'll think the next colossal fight will need an Ajax from what was shown in the trailer??
others descendant do actually outshine Ajax, but we all know when u on colossus fight and u meet an Ajax, u know he always cover ur back and because it's his role to absorb damage protecting u with his shield. Now Nexon just troll all Ajax main
@@booker949 no.. i think, i less damage dealer, who just casting shield and makes the battle longer.. i'd rather have 3 lepics / 3 gleys than meeting 3 ajax.
Relax lol. They're very receptive with feedback. Give them some time to address it. If people want to quit then go for it. I was devastated to see my shield drop down by 29k, but it didn't destroy my build as a whole. Be patient.
clearly built him wrong if you were focusing on shields then lol... if you did the body enhancement build you'd know why people are pissed
@@TheDarklord517 The problem with shields is that they are too little compared to health, which the old mod fixed by giving a lot of shields. Defense applies to shields just the same, so they were basically extra health.
They’re “receptive” because it’s all planned to profit them. Why do you think the invasion dungeon grind for Hailey was and still is insane? And why is Hailey insanely broken for damage?
Because players will understandably screw the grind and buy her, then after the season is up they’ll nerf her next probably. That’s the intent.
I’m only cautiously optimistic because I doubt they’ll nerf Ajax again, at least, but we’ll see.
So now is Ajax useless? I'm about 6hrs into thos game..just got Bunny yesterday. How do you understand the mechanics? Is the a guide you made?
Body enhancement does not feel enhancing your ajax anymore
yes it does. it enhances your damage actually. and your bubble.
@@YubuCH2 Yup those are true but what I meant is that this is not even an upgrade for him
@@janrespicio7394 Not an upgrade but gives him like 5x health, def, and shield of anyone else. It still makes you the hardest to kill, just now its not the ONLY mod you would take on him.
@mordecaigalidonus2863 What 5x heath? I have 25k without the mod. It definitely doesn't give me 125k health with it 😂
@@Leonhart_93 5x health in comparison to everyone else. Did you think i meant in general for him? He's a tank that scales abilities off being tanky. wow, what a concept.
im so pissed they nerf Ajax once again when i wanted to build him with proper tank support build.
I didn't realize cooldowns went up either. So pissed!
Cooldowns AND skill cost…they really hate tanks in game lol
Not gonna lie I really felt like quitting game
The biggest problem when i play ajax (or any other character) is that I have to run behind a bunny that has already killed everything and I DONT GET TO PLAY THE GAME. every infiltration I play there is at least one bunny ruining the entire mission until the boss
Then don't public que, or even better .. just leave the mission, smh. Why y'all always blaming it on bunnies
Better nerf Aja then.
1. The old body enhancement literally disables your unique resources (void energy or smth) while the new one gives you 100% resources upon casting skill, which enables you to use enhanced skill that gives you reflect AND increased firearm atk
2. You don't need that much HP and defenses. 40 k is plenty enough.
Feels like you're all complaining cause the numbers got lowered but you forgot how he now can buff all his teammates inside the bubble and reflect boss damage which significantly increases his contribution in DPS number rather than wasting 57k HP for no reason.
@@Asegard reflect damage is trash in colossi when you can one tap most of them with just straight dps builds.
Meanwhile EVEN with the buffs his barriers STILL get destroyed by Gluttony, the ONLY colossus where Ajax could be needed but only if he can still tank hits both on barriers and character which nope he can’t.
And 10% firearm atk for the sphere buff is PATHETIC!!!!!!
In any event, I very clearly stated the void energy buffs were something, at the very least, but players like you who hype those garbage tiny buffs up like it’s OP to defend Nexon now are laughable.
If it were up to me, I’d change the buffs so orbit barrier no longer does reflect at all but becomes invincible to all damage finally being a true tanky counter to Gluttony (and not being OP here since it’s not the giant sphere and doesn’t reflect) and then add a 50% hp and defense buff for allies inside the enhanced sphere finally mitigating the NERF they have to Ajax AND making the buff inside finally worth it for teammates to stay in, as it would allow the true dps members to survive longer to become more efficient in their focused damage rather than dying and running for their lives.
But of course they won’t do that. At best they’ll change the pitiful 10% weapon buff inside the sphere to 15% AND slap on another 5% CDR penalty to hyper cube (cause NOTHING in this game can’t have penalties) and call it a day.
Then you’ll return again whining “What you whining about?! Ajax is awesome!”
Im so pissed about this update they need to give me my Ajax back ...$100 for an Ultimate POS
This update killed the game. There are way too many problems to list.
you wont say it, but i will. DPS AJAX IS DUMB AND BAD, pretty much everyone else does it better.
Nah bro I want my 54k hp Ajax back
Please use time-stamp.
Non time-stamped video just gives me the urge to hit the walls...
Anyway, thx for updates but here's the thing :
I wonder how you get these HP...
Cause I have even better stuff than you, I even use Overwhelming HP over HP collector and yet I only reach 32k hp.
I also use you Battle stamina that grants more hp than HP Amplification, and yet you have more 7k more hp than me, I don't get the math in this game...
We all agree, Ajax now suxx so hard...
@@valos696 Battle of Stamina doesn’t give more HP that’s why it is a double buff while HP Amplification nerfs shield (which we don’t need anymore).
I do agree though I feel the game doesn’t always give every player the same stats for builds which is bs.
And I updated the build again go to 6:00 in this video to see my start showing everything and pause as needed to screenshot.
m.ruclips.net/video/_XpQwwhARlQ/видео.html
@@foxnfire6388 I've seen the whole video, thus my post.
You have 498,1% HP bonus where I have 508,4% HP bonus + 14,2% hp of my max shield.
Yet you have 7k HP more than me.
7k is too huge difference while I have more bonus than you.
So indeed, there's something messed up in the game.
@@valos696 Battle of Stamina yields way less hp than HP Amplification. You can look online and confirm the true numbers so maybe your game is giving you visual bugs if it’s telling you that mod gives more hp
@@foxnfire6388 My bad, I was mistaking, it's not Battle of Stamina which gives 122% but Stim Accelerant that I use, which gives 234% HP bonus where your HP Amplification only gives 227%
@@valos696 oh. Well the other possible explanation is the visual Albion bug. You don’t see your true stats until you enter a combat area or the laboratory. Go the lab and see if your stats say the same
Wait, I thought they would buff Ajax. They ended up nerfing it?. LOL, I'm out.
Lets complain about ajax and force them to fix him. Our complaints should be able to get through.
They said they buffed void shards in Special Operation missions. Yes it is true instead of getting one Single Shard about halfway through the rounds or waves it turns into two shards per drop. The only problem is they are dropping significantly less than they were. I was getting more voice shards before this so-called buff in Special Operation missions than I am now. I don't know I want to love the game but I am not impressed with this update. Other than a few quality of life updates I'm kind of disappointed. This is not going to bring players to the game. They will show up this weekend and see and then they will leave again
why tf would you farm void shards in special operations lmaoo. where you can run the actual void shard farm and get like 50 for 5mins of your time. are you high? sonetimes its not even 5mins. its even less
@@YubuuCHsometimes its more efficient if you are also farming gold and xp as well.
yea thats it im out just another helldivers good for a plat run by tools i only just got ultimate ajax cpla days ago was still doing him up but i was sure something wasnt right after the update, im not spending hundreds of hours doing up characters with time and resources for these knobheads to turn around and trash em in seconds . . same as helldivers
These devs have been more responsive and respectable than Helldivers. I am willing to stick it out with them. Helldivers devs are stubborn assholes
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 lol yea i didnt stik around long enuff to find out thought it was lil lite on myself pluus they nerfrd a bunch o crap i was using, but it was great for a mnth or so, this bugs me most i think as i put actual money into leveling up and i do agree that they have been very quick with trying to keep us happy , which sort of makes the s1 update a little baffling i think they thought wed actually like these inversion thingimys lol , but its cool il look back on this as just as much fun as the divers but now i can fully enjoy warhammer nxt weelk and not feel conflicted that i actually wana play this lolz
So basically, don't put on body enhancement, then...and you'll be fine.
Gotta love build diversity
Your problem is that you’re trying to run tank in a game where damage only really matters😂
I’m well aware of that believe me. I just LIKE being a tank in games. Probably won’t be playing this one much longer though
Devs have stated they want build diversity. Is killing certain builds for no reason conducive to build diversity? Can we trust anything Nexon says if their idea of incentivizing build diversity is giving us less viable builds to choose from?
They haven’t made the updates to deal with ONE character being the only character that matters in the game. It’s a problem I don’t think they can fix without a straight nerf to her
@@iwitnessi-qx2qb I mean they listen to the community a lot actually so, yeah
@kingcurmudgeon8685 They will either nerf Bunny or wait around long enough to see that people don't want to play other characters for world activities. Or weapons.
There is really no point when everything else is slower in comparison.
Uninstalled. Will not come back.
nooo dont. im sure nexon will go bankrupt if you leave TT. just kidding. no one knows you or actually cares about you leaving. good riddance.
Vote with you're wallet people.
only thing keeping me playing are the funny ass players that I enjoy. Like when you're chilling at an outpost waiting on Sharon to do her thing and out of nowhere you hear that annoying giggle and ruins the mission. Most of the time you see her coming. The electricity and grappling. It's damn near slow motion while you're screaming nooooooooo. Then there's Valby with the bong bong bong all day if you're farming with her. The list goes on.
Every time....they even had to do her that annoying taunt while running, like it's laughing at you for using something else that is always slower.
This is sad.
Ok so everyone wants these super builds I get it but if everyone can clear to endgame so quick what then you want more but most will not want to pay for it........ So I think to many complain about changes do they suck hell yeah as a veteran gamer coming atw from the 80's people want to complete things so quick and get the best stuff so quick it kills the game so if you can have anything unlimited that's not a proper game mechanic you always need to be at risk it's what makes a game fun only TRUE gamers know exactly what I'm saying sorry to all those that will not understand the true meaning of gaming
THIS IS NOT A RANT ON THE CREATOR OF THIS VIDEO!!
My dude, put a period your sentence structure 😂. Almost had aa stroke reading through that slog
This is what I hate about games like this. I don't have tons of time to play so when I finally get the stuff to make a cool build it gets nerfed. It's just so maddening to me.
@@DelbertStinkfester yup then you gotta change the build and they don’t compensate you ever.
If you keep playing, though, I’ve updated and perfected this build now I think. Requires multiple loadouts, though, for different elemental resists and a lot of resocking for that reason. But end result is another Ajax able to face tank every boss in game except Gluttony BUT finally feels like he can survive better than others against him too and have barriers that can finally take hits from him.
m.ruclips.net/video/KYkeBU2w3Z4/видео.html
A full tank Ajax build is useless anyway
It has its place in intercepts. Also helps carry bad players or players with sub par builds
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 This is a damage oriented game right now. A full dps descendant can carry bad players or players with sub par builds. If you want an unkillable Ajax to stand there and revive players until the timer runs out, go ahead.
It's really good for soloing stuff, as it NEVER goes down, don't need anyone to revive you. Carried me through really hard content without dying even once.
So? Body enhancement was useless anyway. U dont build him tanky, if you do youre clueless and useless to the game.
Ajax can be insane farmer but you wont know it because "ugh i NeEd mOrE Hp and deF" 💩
@@spriestplayer2329 oh yeah that’s smart….build the only Descendant described as a “tank” in entire game into a wannabe Bunny that’s still inferior to her farming speed at the end of the day.
Brilliant logic!
@@foxnfire6388 ye, like I said. Clueless 🤣🤣🤣
Oof ajax nerf, I can't tank. My 57k hp is now 40k. Shows his build and you don't even have elemental resistances. 😂 Do you even know how much def is optimal before the damage resist is negligible? Did you know def doesn't work on shields? Do you even know that def doesn't reduce elemental damage? You wonder why you don't feel tanky but you don't bother to learn these things. 😂 All you want is high numbers without knowing how much effective hp you actually have. The Body Enhance mod was straight up buffed cause now you can have that atk buff that the bubble gives. You can actually help with the dps now WHILE having a tankier bubble. You're all so fixated on having such high def and hp numbers when in fact your overall ehp is jackshit. 😂 The MP costs doesn't even matter cause you won't be casting more due to the fact that you can have an enhanced skill every other cast. Cooldown isn't that bad either, you won't need to cast the bubble that frequently cause it's not supposed to break if you have the right "tank" build. The overall ehp of the bubble will be so much higher than what it used to be because of the changes plus again the fact that you don't lose the atk buff when it's enhanced makes you more useful than being portable defibrillator. 😂
holy shit. finally. an actual ajax main. get schoold fkers. im not being sarcastic btw. for those smoothbrains at the back.
That works now but prior to the rework his abilities only scaled off of def and hp to be fair. Now there is no reason to not to use attribute resistances.
@@themadtagger6450 Yes there is. They only affect your barriers and no one has tested yet how well
@@helpami7913 Elementsl resists are TRASH for YOURSELF and always have been. Research any video going through the actual math of hp, defense, resists. Also, wrong…defense DOES MITIGATE elemental attacks.
Now the question no one has tested yet is whether elemental resists matter a jot for your BARRIERS NOW with the new update.
But saying they have always been OP is laughable and uh…I’m NOT DYING…you clearly didn’t watch anything
@@foxnfire6388 wdym "trash for yourself" isnt the point of a tanky build to not die and to actually tank damage? youre wondering why toxic fux you over? cus you have no resistance to it. you dont need math for it. its common sense. hes saying you dont need to sacrifice a fuckton of utility and dps jsut to have hp and def maxed. you plan on just standing there and take damage? the point is. you can just build your hp, def, resists just enuf so you can take a beating without sacrificing your personal damage. which the new changes to body enhancement gives. ajax has more to him than just a walking defib.