Have seen brass cups & allen head screw kits for years and wondered what the back story was. Now I know😁 Cool how you make your own bits and tools. That R10 turned out really nice👍
It's also called pillar bedding in some circles ;-) Lots of different ways of doing it. I just came up with this because you can't go out and buy what you need. That and barrel cocking rifles in general have the breech rubbing the stock problem. What's the saying? Necessity is the mother of invention.... Thanks for watching Ron!
@@PaulWattsSpringGunning Holy smokes, I totally missed it then 🤦🏻♂️. Sort of a two-fer-one deal: Stabilize the breech area and you get the custom brass cups look. Pretty clever.
Hi Mr. Paul Watts, I would like to thank you for this video, as you know I have some carbines, very old, this is a problem that I never managed to solve in the best way, now I will show your video to my mechanic, and try to do the same, thanks my friend for sharing, Cheers.
You can do the same thing without the cutters if he has a lathe. Just measure the the holes in the stock and make cups to fit. They have to be tight in the hole. Grooves and glue will keep them from moving. Make sure everything is like you want it before gluing them in ;-) If you need to remove them afterwards use a soldering iron on the cups. I didn't mention it in the video but it will also keep the stock from rubbing on the side of the breech. Wood compresses on both sides of the the stock were the screw goes through. When it does the stock will rub on the breech. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
@@PaulWattsSpringGunning I'm getting a new Weihrauch next week. I wish It had a stock like that!! That's art! I also create stuff and I know how it feels, when people admire your work and show you there enthousiasm. That's my motivation and what keeps me trying for even better results. I hate money, when I see a person happy, because of my creations, that's for me the best payment! Keep it up my friend!
LOL! I Don't hate money ;-) It's one of the few ways I can show someone how much I appreciate their work. Also I've found if you don't charge or charge very little for your work you wind up devaluing yourself and your customers investment if they were supportive of you. With that said, getting money doesn't motivate me to do anything for anyone. All it does for me is show how much someone values my time and work but if someone offers me a lot of money for something but they are a complete jerk about it :-) I routinely walk away from the deal. It's something I have been criticized for for years. LOL!!!
I'd have to build the pattern first. That would make the cost be unreasonable for a one off job. I have a pattern similar to what is pictured in this video but I don't think it's quite that high.
Yes the Beeman R10 is the same as a HW85. Not sure about the MK1 designation. Some of the early rebranded HW rifles with screw on rails had a different trigger with a side lever safety slide. The R10 has the trigger unit like current production rifles.
FWIW: The HWs with bolt on rails never shared any parts or designs with anything BSF ever made. The only thing they had in common is the fact that they both had a 26mm ID tube and a bolt on scope rail. The rails didn't even interchange. I know this info has been passed around for years but it just isn't true. I think it is a case of someone repeating something they didn't understand and it then found it's way into print. There's never been a good way to address it in the past without it looking like you were making fun of the person saying it, so it never got said. People in the service side of things have always known and kept their mouth shut. Less drama that way.
@@PaulWattsSpringGunning hey thanks paul, sometimes it's better to hear the truth you can only learn from it. As you say some one got a story and ran with it till everyone believed it now I know the real facts cheers again paul.
HW did buy out BSF when it closed. They bought all the tooling and machines. They just never used leftover parts to make new rifles. That is where the story becomes urban legend ;-) I have several old BSF rifles. I even have a prototype rifle that was sent to ARH back in the day but my favorite is a long barrel BSF60 in 22cal.
Many don't appreciate the skills, experience, equipment and tools it takes to be able to do what Paul can do.
Thanks Tom! Much appreciated.
Have seen brass cups & allen head screw kits for years and wondered what the back story was. Now I know😁
Cool how you make your own bits and tools. That R10 turned out really nice👍
It's also called pillar bedding in some circles ;-) Lots of different ways of doing it. I just came up with this because you can't go out and buy what you need. That and barrel cocking rifles in general have the breech rubbing the stock problem. What's the saying? Necessity is the mother of invention.... Thanks for watching Ron!
@@PaulWattsSpringGunning Holy smokes, I totally missed it then 🤦🏻♂️. Sort of a two-fer-one deal: Stabilize the breech area and you get the custom brass cups look. Pretty clever.
Thanks!
Your an artist Sir.
Thank you!!!
Great video ,the attention to detail with your years of experience is brilliant to watch 👍🏻
Thank you. Very much appreciated!
Yes he sure has great skills with the guns.
Hi Mr. Paul Watts, I would like to thank you for this video, as you know I have some carbines, very old, this is a problem that I never managed to solve in the best way, now I will show your video to my mechanic, and try to do the same, thanks my friend for sharing, Cheers.
You can do the same thing without the cutters if he has a lathe. Just measure the the holes in the stock and make cups to fit. They have to be tight in the hole. Grooves and glue will keep them from moving. Make sure everything is like you want it before gluing them in ;-) If you need to remove them afterwards use a soldering iron on the cups.
I didn't mention it in the video but it will also keep the stock from rubbing on the side of the breech. Wood compresses on both sides of the the stock were the screw goes through. When it does the stock will rub on the breech. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
@@PaulWattsSpringGunningthank you very much.
Man great acoustic Intro
Wow that stock is simply perfect!!!
Thank you! I'd like to fit this pattern to most of the rifles HW makes. It's very comfortable to shoot.
@@PaulWattsSpringGunning I'm getting a new Weihrauch next week. I wish It had a stock like that!! That's art! I also create stuff and I know how it feels, when people admire your work and show you there enthousiasm. That's my motivation and what keeps me trying for even better results. I hate money, when I see a person happy, because of my creations, that's for me the best payment! Keep it up my friend!
LOL! I Don't hate money ;-) It's one of the few ways I can show someone how much I appreciate their work. Also I've found if you don't charge or charge very little for your work you wind up devaluing yourself and your customers investment if they were supportive of you. With that said, getting money doesn't motivate me to do anything for anyone. All it does for me is show how much someone values my time and work but if someone offers me a lot of money for something but they are a complete jerk about it :-) I routinely walk away from the deal. It's something I have been criticized for for years. LOL!!!
You're the man Paul! Thanks for the great videos.
Glad you like them!
Thanks for sharing 😊
Would love to see some of your guns actually shoot 👍👍
Perhaps shooting before & after …
Thanks again
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Mm I think I just might take a look at my hw80 ..in 22 cal . I will start with making some new screws .
Hi Paul, can you make an HW80 stock with a 3/4 inch higher comb? If so how much $.?
I'd have to build the pattern first. That would make the cost be unreasonable for a one off job. I have a pattern similar to what is pictured in this video but I don't think it's quite that high.
So that would be the same as the mk1 hw85 with the screw on back block and raised scope rail paul.
Yes the Beeman R10 is the same as a HW85. Not sure about the MK1 designation. Some of the early rebranded HW rifles with screw on rails had a different trigger with a side lever safety slide. The R10 has the trigger unit like current production rifles.
@@PaulWattsSpringGunning doing a bit of research it seems the hw85 was weihrauch perfection of the bsf55 which the weihrauch took over at some stage.
FWIW: The HWs with bolt on rails never shared any parts or designs with anything BSF ever made. The only thing they had in common is the fact that they both had a 26mm ID tube and a bolt on scope rail. The rails didn't even interchange. I know this info has been passed around for years but it just isn't true. I think it is a case of someone repeating something they didn't understand and it then found it's way into print. There's never been a good way to address it in the past without it looking like you were making fun of the person saying it, so it never got said. People in the service side of things have always known and kept their mouth shut. Less drama that way.
@@PaulWattsSpringGunning hey thanks paul, sometimes it's better to hear the truth you can only learn from it. As you say some one got a story and ran with it till everyone believed it now I know the real facts cheers again paul.
HW did buy out BSF when it closed. They bought all the tooling and machines. They just never used leftover parts to make new rifles. That is where the story becomes urban legend ;-) I have several old BSF rifles. I even have a prototype rifle that was sent to ARH back in the day but my favorite is a long barrel BSF60 in 22cal.