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Freedom Ordnance FX-9 4.5" Tabletop Review
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I got a new one yesterday and am impressed with the build quality. I wanted the shorter barrel for HD and close up work. Thank you for the review.
Finally! I've been waiting for this.
Why?
If you have this in your hands......it just builds up the confidence to do the work when you have good tools.!
Damn right it does!!! Very cool piece.
bought one 9-1-20. great gun, love it
Just got my 8 inch barrel fx9 a few days ago . I couldn't be happier with it .
Lucky. I'm looking into a 8-10.5 barrel AR 9.
The 8" barrel will give optimal ballistics with 9mm ammo.
I like the SP9A1 a lot for its features like the front charging handle and ability to shoot folded, but the FX9 has the smallest overall length (if you put a folding adaptor on it) than any other complete AR9 I can find.
Another option to my list. I was looking at the CMMG Banshee series 300, Angstadt UDP-9, FX-9 and now this with the shorter barrel.
I’m looking at a few of the same guns. What did you end up getting?
This looks awesome. Can’t wait to see how it shoots. Any idea when these are available?
Can the flashcan be removed and if it is, how far does the barrel protrude from the handguard …
Looked at one Saturday. Nice little weapon.
Would a binary trigger like the Fostech Echo AR or the Franklin Armory BFS work in this firearm ...
In case anyone is interested, I've experimented with various triggers in my FX-9, and the only one that functioned properly is the Timney Trigger Impact AR Trigger. None of the Rise Armament Triggers worked right, and the Mimtac Drastic AR-9 9mm PCC Drop-in Touch Trigger instantly transformed the FX-9 into an unstoppable, out-of-control, ONE-PULL-ONE-MAG, full-auto, machine gun, with no way to stop the firing, except to keep it pointed downrange til the mag is empty, as removing your finger from the trigger doesn't work! Just an FYI...
Is the upgraded changing handle worth the $60?
Is the stiffer spring because you run a silencer on that one?
Couple quick questions:
1) If they say the factory trigger is tuned for the gun why are you switching it out? Is the factory trigger not as good as you had hoped it would be?
2) Does this new FX-9 come with the upgraded charging handle or do you still have to spend the $70 like you did to upgrade it?
3) Have they said if it will run surpassed?
4) I'm trying to decide between this and the new Ruger PC Charger. I loved handling this FX-9 at a fun show but everyone us raving about the new PC Charger
Thanks for making this video!
1) They say it's tuned because not all AR triggers work with PCCs. I changed it because I wanted to.
2) I'm not a manufacturer representative, you should ask them.
3) They haven't said, but performance surpasses many other similar guns.
4) Forget about Ruger, that's just marketing hype. The FX-9 is unique in all the right ways and common in all the right ways.
Great content. Very informative. Were you able to change the trigger group for this - CMC is it?
I didn't on this gun but have put CMCs on other FX-9s. Thank you for the feedback!
I was curious as to 2 things: Any reason they switched the bolt carriers from nickel boron to nitride? & Why did you switch your recoil spring on your older FX-9? I was curious because I have the same model and wondered if there were any benefits or less recoil? Thanks, I am looking forward to the review as to you are the only one I have seen get ahold of the 4.5” model.
nickel boron started flaking off on mine. thank goodness for warranty.
Was looking at the Brigade BM 9 but read several comments about people having issues with them. Now considering this gun instead.
We've got all three variants of the FX-9. They're great guns and actually scaled for 9mm which makes them about 1.5" shorter than any other AR-styled PCC. Great guns, but with that size comes some restriction. They won't accept AR charging handles or common bolt changes, but if you're one who learns the gun instead of trying to buy your way to better shooting the FX-9 is an excellent gun.
What's the difference between the
"8 inch faux suppress"?
I just ordered this one. Haven’t received it yet though. I know it has limited mlok for light options. Anyone got any suggestions for a light mount with such little real estate
This is the second video I'v seen were the front "Anti Walking Pin" on the trigger, well moves, or "walks" when testing the trigger. See 11:05 - 11:11 - Has anyone had problems with this causing problems?
Neat little piece. I'd prefer it in 45acp just due to the short barrel and limited range.
Can you provide a link to the brace with the magazine storage?
Can you buy these already built and ready to go ?
The enhanced charging handle alone comes out to $71 a bit on the expensive side, But it does look nicer.
It's also a lot nicer to use.
These are awesome guns
Have the carbine and pistol both with CMC triggers installed and they have run perfect with no issues Only problem is that you will use up a lot of ammo since they are such fun to shoot. Mine have ran perfect with steel case ammo and cheap Korean mags also.
LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU TRY THE NEW TRIGGER AND WHICH ONE. THANKS NICK
Check the Shooting Impressions video
Did I miss the price?
I handled one the other day and was quite impressed so much so its not on my shortlist.
Take a look at their mid-length barrel option. This 4.5" is cool, but doesn't give you the extra energy you could be getting from an 8"
@@GBGuns Yeah Thats the one I handled and thats the one I plan to buy the 8 inch. Make a good trunk gun and bedside gun.
8 in versus the 4.5 in is *15%* is it really that much? You won't get the super-duper increase until you get a 16 in bbl.
When will the update at the range on this be uploaded? Interested.
We're hoping to shoot it this weekend. We were away visiting a manufacturer last weekend.
Could you possibly show me how to remove and put back together the angled grip on front . I bought a pre owned one and the grip was loose so I ordered a new one and don’t know how to remove old one and add new one . Thanks !
That's unfortunately against RUclips's rules. They think that's "gunsmithing"
Is the stock adjustable?
Can i install on 4.5"barrel but a 8" barrel
Hey Graham, what do you think about the FX-9 vs The Brigade BM9 shorty? I have the BM9 and wonder if i should sell it and get the FX-9?
Which do you think is better?
I think the FX9 is better, but don't think the shorty is worth it, you're not getting any more muzzle energy than most pistols. If it's just for fun then sure, but go with a longer barrel
I'm new to all this and a bit confused about all the different choices.Would this be a good choice for home protection ?
Yes, but personally I would go for a longer barrel
Where did you get the buffer tube with mag holder? What is is called and by who?
It's called a Pistol Storage Device. I have a video on it
just gotta throw a law tac adaptor on it
Would it be possible to run the law tactical side folding stock on this firearm?
Yes, but it requires a special adapter
What is the brace you have with the extra mag holder
Doesn’t seem like person who made the video answers any questions ppl have asked
Have you checked out the CMMG Banshee, and how do you think they compare? (The FX is about half the price of the Banshee, I know . . . But that radial delay bolt . . . )
There's no question the RDB is a superior system, but it comes with a cost. I have an RDB upper I'll be building soon
@@GBGuns Have you done the build, and if so, how do they compare/ Is it worth the extra cost?
It's a little softer, I think I'll mess around with buffer weights before deciding.
While it sorta compares, there is the Extar EP-9 at $439.99 shipped from extarusa, the FX-9 looks to be a nicer package.
Not 250$ nicer though..I think the ep9 is slick. This is cool for its ar15 compatible parts though.
@@armadon161 I really like my EP9, but I think that if I could trade it and $250 for the FX9, I would.
Yep the extar is a polymer upper and lower, not billet like the Fox-9 .
The ep9 is now $499
I've debated between the two myself. I opted for the fx-9 because of the options it gives you. You can change the brace options, and the HG just off the top of my head. I also like that its all metal.
But I understand the cost thing. I looked seriously at the EP-9, it gets down to preference.
Graham, what magazine is that at 2:30 the clear one. Link if possible thanks.
Clear would be ETS. RUclips doesnt allow links to gun stuff
Graham Baates is it this one? ETS GLOCK 18 9MM 31 ROUND POLYMER MAGAZINE - 7782062
Is the brace adjustable for length?
lone akmoperator yes as witnessed in the video 🙂. I wondered that as well as when I looked online at it everybody had the brace inward and all scrunched up for some reason.
Edit: I was looking at the other model with a different brace; my mistake. I did contact FO not to long ago and they said it’s adjustable.
It is with a hex key. Go with an SBA3.
does the stock extend for the shorter version?
CODE 47 yes it does , there’s a screw to adjust it to the length you want
Will a omega 9k fit this model?
mike seman I think it will, contact Freedom Ordnance to be sure.
This isn't legal in California I'm assuming cause of shoulder stock and pistol grip?
It's a pistol, and it isn't on the state's approved roster.
I just bought the 8 inch barrel will I be able to use a Glock 19 magazine
I don't see why not
All the way down to the G26.
Can you use a binary trigger?
Alejandro Whitford I think they recommend against it.
Is the barrel switchable? From 4” to 8” or 8” to 4”? TIA
In the same way it would be on any AR. You'll need to remove hanf guard and barrel nut.
Graham Baates great! thanks for the reply!
Just sent for one!!!!
Ditto. Hopefully KY Gun co will send mine out!
Are you using the regular. cmc 3.5lb flat trigger???
Yup
@@GBGuns thanks
@@hopewilliams6705 No problem, I don't know what the "PCC trigger" deal is about, I've never had an issue with a regular AR trigger.
@@GBGuns I've heard 9mm was to hard on them and they break thank you will be going to get one if it's held up for this long in yours I can't wait
Small PCC can be manipulated with one hand as you open doors, clear obstacles or shepherd innocents, or assailants. The right optic is essential, having both eyes open is just tactically superior. As far as stopping power, double taps, or Nerve system shots ensure lights out.
AHA!
Had a tough time breaking it down and putting back together. I seemed like the handstop interfered. Not yearly as easy for me as the video shows.
Try pulling the upper off by first popping both pins, then pulling the upper forward.
why is everything 9mm what about 45 or 40 ?
9mm is the most common handgun caliber in the world and is cheaper to shoot, that's why gun makers go for 9mm first.
I'd be sold if it took CZ mags. I'm from the camp that likes to see tapered cases stacked in a curved magazine not a straight magazine.
There's not a whole lot of taper on a 9mm, but if you experience a lot of nosedive the taper is probably why.
I picked it because of mag commonality with my glocks.
Just received mine yesterday. Love it took only 10 days. Company is KENTUCKY GUN COMPANY
I've bought a lot through KyGunCo and never had any issues with them.
3 years ahead of the ATF
I've got the 8" barrel and it is loud. That 4.5 has to be Loud AF! 🤣
As opposed to 5.56 I'll take a 9mm any day. Bes I des the 4.5 inch bbl would be like a handgun.
Good point. I would think 5.56 was too much for every day home defense though. I can absolutely see the 4.5in suppressed. For me that's the way to go with just about any short bbl config...
I have a 5.56 pistol and the booger is loud! I think the reason this seems loud is relative to the shooter since it is held closer to the ears I'm going to do a blast can. Testing has shown it to reduce decibel level reduction as much as 8 decibels.
Makes a nice truck gun
I think this is the 1 I want. For home and on the range...
How much are they?
Frankie Gunnz I think he said $699
Wait so you think you get better performance out of a shorter Barrel. I don't think you understand how physics works, also outside of Hi Point pretty much all handguns are delayed blowback of some kind which changes the ballistics compared to a straight blowback
Better put of a short PCC than most Handguns. PCCs tend to run 5" and longer. Most handguns are under 5". I'm sorry that wasn't clear to you.
SWEEET iI just LOOOOOOOVE proprietary bullshit
Maybe you can zoom in even closer so none of the gun is in the picture
I'm sorry this free content isn't up to your standards
@@GBGuns eh, I still gave it thumbs up which cancels out the unsolicited criticism... Mainly I'm just jealous of your gun.
@@GBGuns and your table. Its pretty decent.
The tabletop videos are meant to be an up close of the features. If you want to see full size and in action check the Shootin Impressions videos
@@GBGuns yeah I found those afterward.. I'm just being a smart alec, you crank out good stuff.
I just don’t see how there’s a market for a PCC with a 4.5 inch barrel when they are 4-5 inch pistols that do the exact same thing but hey whatever floats your boat now if this was like a rifle caliber that was K style they may be on something
This is a non-NFA not-an-SBR in a very compact package at a pistol price... Get 'em while you can!
Gary Lankford I said now if it was in rifle caliber that was built such as a k style sbr
@@brandonmatthews7930 But they DON'T do the same thing. A pistol gives you fewer points of contact, so will be less controllable, and less accurate. This remains highly maneuverable, because it's compact. Perfect for home defense, or personal defense, especially in tight quarters. Plus, ammo is much cheaper than rifle ammo, it's quieter, and has less likelihood of your rounds over penetrating.
michael silver more points of contact is a cop out for lesser training this is a more shootable platform not a better platform the same capabilities will apply if this was a 4.5 pistol you gain nothing but a different manual of arms and comfort due to lack of Confidence with a handgun 9mm doesn’t get +5 damage and accuracy cause it’s loaded through a lower receiver instead of a pistol Frame and lastly high speed fragmentation is real and rifles a lot of the time are safer than slower heavier projectiles at times I mean pcc that aren’t sub guns need to die yeah they are cool but I think that we should advance as a community and use SBRs or rifle caliber pistols
@@brandonmatthews7930 A cop out for lesser training? You obviously know less about guns and shooting than you think you know. . . More points of contact means a more stable platform. Simple. But sure, you go on thinking otherwise. (You'll just be wrong.)
Cost brand new
Yes it does.
You are not supposed to change triggers and would need modification
Not always true, see our other FX-9 videos.
The finishing looks cheap
That's a junk Saturday night special.
How do you figure?
Look good, but I live in communist state
A 4inch barrel is a big & bulky handgun.... if you're going to make it a "rifle"-type stick to the 7-12" barrel.
Make it look like a rifle or make a handgun. This thing looks goofy.
This makes no sense whatsoever🤦🏻♂️
Actually, it does, just maybe not for you . . . There's a list of reasons why this makes sense, and they're covered in the various FX-9 videos.
Would you be able to switch the charging handles?
It's proprietary, can only switch it to another FX9 charging handle. Won't work with a regular AR charging handle.