I love your streams man, I look forward to a similar format to the Bloodborne playthrough. The shorter time was more manageable, but it felt awesome to have one every week. Thank for all your work, LP!
I think you're right on item descriptions. They are the 'narrator' except when there are quotations or caveats etc. as you mention. I'm not sold on the Placudisax thing. If Godfrey is the first Elden Lord, why wouldn't it just be written as I have written it above? But it isn't. It's capitalised. So it's part of his title and has more of the ring of, say, First Captain in a Space Marine legion. This doesn't mean that there were no other Captains before them. Also Radogan is not called Second Elden Lord, capitalised. I think that they usurped Placudisax and want to memory hole him and the removal of all but two of his heads is an act of iconoclasm in keeping with the idea that everything was in opposition to the Erdtree until being either destroyed, converted, replaced or enslaved. Bob the Hollow's 3rd episode of Elden Ring lore does a pretty good job in tracing Marika and Godfrey's conquest (although the style is quite esoteric). When you think about it, Marika's authority seems to be held aloft by a lot of propaganda, illusions and lies. Again, more like a usurping conquest that destroys everything in its wake akin to the Turks defacing religious iconography or Communists burning churches. I'm not certain, of course, but the efforts to maintain control of the current order seem to get increasingly desperate, like Chemical Ali trying to maintain that the regime in Iraq was still in control as it fell apart at the seams. I digress, but I think it's worth considering whether 'it is said' does denote hearsay in this case or whether it can be taken to mean that its veracity can't be confirmed.
I would also add that Those Who Live in Death carrying the same shields as the beast men in Farum Azula explains the animosity towards TWLID, if you take this view. The purge continues!
Interesting detail about the divine towers is that, when you reach the top, there are usually these massive stone blocks that circle around the two fingers. These blocks have holes in them, which look like yellow meteorite left overs, of which is surrounded by a design that looks just like the the symbol of the fell god. + the crucible like mess architecture along the interior. It really seems that the divine towers are a hybrid of cultures. Nox, Fire Giant, and Beastmen.
Godfrey is called Hora Loux in the opening cinematic but he's dead, like all of the Tarnished mentioned. Marika said they can't return until they die in a distant land. So he was called Hora Loux during the 'interval' when they were all banished. Also, who drives Godfrey and his invincible army out of the Lands Between? He's the hardest man in the entire world and has vanquished every opponent that could possibly be a threat to him.
The crucible era could have been during the war with the giants. It would represent the erdtree in an early form. That could have been why Marika said to brandish the Elden Ring for the age of the Erdtree. To allow the tree to continue to develop. My thinking was that the crucible knights served Godfrey during the war with the giants. They helped secure victory and then once Godfrey defeated the Storm Lord and was exiled, they were pushed out of society as well.
As far as I can tell, commanders standard (2:47:35) depicts the winds emanating from the stormlord. It looks like a scorpion (Placidusax?) sitting atop a pillar? with twin tombstones in front. The tombstones are the clearest part. The wall banners in Stormveil seem to depict something like wind emanating downward from the Erdtree. Given the colours used, there may be a tree-and-beast dichotomy at play here.
There is a scorpion in the lore. It's connected to the god of rot and the Scorpion Stinger dagger is made from the barb of its tail. I didn't know there was a scorpion on the Commanders Standard. Interesting connection.
@@thevo4100 I don't think it's actually a scorpion but it kind of looks like one. There just seems to be a curved tail like that. As I said the most distinct detail is the twin tombstones.
@@Xandros999 It would make sense, though. You find it at the epicentre of the rot in Caelid. I just had a close look, myself, and it isn't very clear, however, I agree. The jury is out on this one.
@@thevo4100 I see your point, but wouldn't Commander O'Neill be aligned with Radahn's forces though? I don't know why he's there in the first place. Did he get pierced by Malenia's Needle and just stay there fighting forever? (Would have been cool to have a cutscene where he fights off some Cleanrot Knights before he turns to you).
@@Xandros999 He certainly is. But he inflicts rot damage, also. Perhaps this is a by-product of being infected but Radahn, himself, doesn't inflict rot damage. This is probably a red herring.
Not sure that I agree that a fully petrified dragon means that it has been there a long time, because Gransax is simply too big to have been posed like that for long enough to petrify through natural processes. Do we see any dead dragons (modern or ancient) that aren't completely petrified?
Thought Maliketh was a wolf lol. It said wolves (or at least half-wolven warrior constructs) are Shadows to the Empyreans. And yeah, Beast Clergymen seems more akin to an order, as we can actually see beastmen statues dressed in clergy attire flanking some of the larger dragon statues while in Farum Azula. And tbh, I had thought Maliketh was left in Farum Azula after Marika was done using him. After the Night of the Black Knives, he became a clergyman.
Well it doesn't exactly help that Blaidd is a wolf and vargram is the "raging wolf", and we have blood"hound" Knights which mimic shadows lol, I did too at first.
Here's a mind fuck. It took me a while but I think I got the shadows of the Empyrean down. Malaketh is Marika's shadow or as himself puts it, blade of Marika. Then you have blaith who is Rani's shadow or shall I say blade of Rani. See where I'm going with this? Since Michella has no beast his shadow is malenia or as herself likes to kall it, blade of Michella.
Who burned the Erdtree in the Mountaintops? If the Giants did it, then the Erdtree would have to have predated the War with the Giants. If the Fire Monks did it, how the hell did no-one ever freaking notice that they did?!?!!
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5:39 zoom in to timeline, disclaimers, beginning of timeline explanation
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I love your streams man, I look forward to a similar format to the Bloodborne playthrough. The shorter time was more manageable, but it felt awesome to have one every week. Thank for all your work, LP!
I think you're right on item descriptions. They are the 'narrator' except when there are quotations or caveats etc. as you mention.
I'm not sold on the Placudisax thing. If Godfrey is the first Elden Lord, why wouldn't it just be written as I have written it above? But it isn't. It's capitalised. So it's part of his title and has more of the ring of, say, First Captain in a Space Marine legion. This doesn't mean that there were no other Captains before them. Also Radogan is not called Second Elden Lord, capitalised.
I think that they usurped Placudisax and want to memory hole him and the removal of all but two of his heads is an act of iconoclasm in keeping with the idea that everything was in opposition to the Erdtree until being either destroyed, converted, replaced or enslaved.
Bob the Hollow's 3rd episode of Elden Ring lore does a pretty good job in tracing Marika and Godfrey's conquest (although the style is quite esoteric). When you think about it, Marika's authority seems to be held aloft by a lot of propaganda, illusions and lies. Again, more like a usurping conquest that destroys everything in its wake akin to the Turks defacing religious iconography or Communists burning churches.
I'm not certain, of course, but the efforts to maintain control of the current order seem to get increasingly desperate, like Chemical Ali trying to maintain that the regime in Iraq was still in control as it fell apart at the seams.
I digress, but I think it's worth considering whether 'it is said' does denote hearsay in this case or whether it can be taken to mean that its veracity can't be confirmed.
I would also add that Those Who Live in Death carrying the same shields as the beast men in Farum Azula explains the animosity towards TWLID, if you take this view. The purge continues!
Wasn’t able to attend, but I enjoy this style of stream
Interesting detail about the divine towers is that, when you reach the top, there are usually these massive stone blocks that circle around the two fingers. These blocks have holes in them, which look like yellow meteorite left overs, of which is surrounded by a design that looks just like the the symbol of the fell god. + the crucible like mess architecture along the interior.
It really seems that the divine towers are a hybrid of cultures. Nox, Fire Giant, and Beastmen.
The same yellow meteorite can be found in the boss rooms at the bottom of some mines.
Godfrey is called Hora Loux in the opening cinematic but he's dead, like all of the Tarnished mentioned. Marika said they can't return until they die in a distant land. So he was called Hora Loux during the 'interval' when they were all banished.
Also, who drives Godfrey and his invincible army out of the Lands Between? He's the hardest man in the entire world and has vanquished every opponent that could possibly be a threat to him.
"but he's dead like all of the Tarnished mentioned."
I think Fia is an exception. She stays alive as a deathbed companion
The crucible era could have been during the war with the giants. It would represent the erdtree in an early form. That could have been why Marika said to brandish the Elden Ring for the age of the Erdtree. To allow the tree to continue to develop. My thinking was that the crucible knights served Godfrey during the war with the giants. They helped secure victory and then once Godfrey defeated the Storm Lord and was exiled, they were pushed out of society as well.
Nononono hoarah loux was the name after he was tarnished and went to the badlands. Nefeli became her daughter from the badlands. Not before.
As far as I can tell, commanders standard (2:47:35) depicts the winds emanating from the stormlord. It looks like a scorpion (Placidusax?) sitting atop a pillar? with twin tombstones in front. The tombstones are the clearest part.
The wall banners in Stormveil seem to depict something like wind emanating downward from the Erdtree.
Given the colours used, there may be a tree-and-beast dichotomy at play here.
There is a scorpion in the lore. It's connected to the god of rot and the Scorpion Stinger dagger is made from the barb of its tail. I didn't know there was a scorpion on the Commanders Standard. Interesting connection.
@@thevo4100 I don't think it's actually a scorpion but it kind of looks like one. There just seems to be a curved tail like that. As I said the most distinct detail is the twin tombstones.
@@Xandros999 It would make sense, though. You find it at the epicentre of the rot in Caelid. I just had a close look, myself, and it isn't very clear, however, I agree. The jury is out on this one.
@@thevo4100 I see your point, but wouldn't Commander O'Neill be aligned with Radahn's forces though? I don't know why he's there in the first place. Did he get pierced by Malenia's Needle and just stay there fighting forever? (Would have been cool to have a cutscene where he fights off some Cleanrot Knights before he turns to you).
@@Xandros999 He certainly is. But he inflicts rot damage, also. Perhaps this is a by-product of being infected but Radahn, himself, doesn't inflict rot damage. This is probably a red herring.
Not sure that I agree that a fully petrified dragon means that it has been there a long time, because Gransax is simply too big to have been posed like that for long enough to petrify through natural processes. Do we see any dead dragons (modern or ancient) that aren't completely petrified?
The Divine Tower in 04:50 is the tower in Lirunia. Look how small the bridge is
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Thought Maliketh was a wolf lol. It said wolves (or at least half-wolven warrior constructs) are Shadows to the Empyreans. And yeah, Beast Clergymen seems more akin to an order, as we can actually see beastmen statues dressed in clergy attire flanking some of the larger dragon statues while in Farum Azula.
And tbh, I had thought Maliketh was left in Farum Azula after Marika was done using him. After the Night of the Black Knives, he became a clergyman.
Well it doesn't exactly help that Blaidd is a wolf and vargram is the "raging wolf", and we have blood"hound" Knights which mimic shadows lol, I did too at first.
Here's a mind fuck. It took me a while but I think I got the shadows of the Empyrean down. Malaketh is Marika's shadow or as himself puts it, blade of Marika. Then you have blaith who is Rani's shadow or shall I say blade of Rani. See where I'm going with this? Since Michella has no beast his shadow is malenia or as herself likes to kall it, blade of Michella.
Who burned the Erdtree in the Mountaintops? If the Giants did it, then the Erdtree would have to have predated the War with the Giants. If the Fire Monks did it, how the hell did no-one ever freaking notice that they did?!?!!