When Martin was announcing his feelings for her in front of the ENTIRE SCHOOL I literally shrunk into my seat. The second-hand embarrassment was _excruciating._
him expecting it to be the waffle house guy is the most RELATABLE thing ever, who doesn't immediately fantasize about having a relationship with a random person after they make eye contact with you for 0.3 seconds
Don't you think it's actually kinda realistic given the fact that he knew that Blue was out there? He probably interpreted every little thing as exagerated because he was trying to find Blue so bad
@@idk-vz1fq me having a crush on a guy for 2 years because we always made eye contact in the hallway and when i wasnt looking he would be staring at me 😊 wasted two years by not doing anything about it ugh
his friends literally tried to equalize having their feelings hurt over a crush with the horror of being blackmailed into coming out as gay. I can never process it either.
See, in the book it was portrayed *a lot* better. As someone who was outed (not blackmailed, ofc, thank god) I have to say it was one of the worst experiences. Especially since it was done to hurt me, not accidentally, or to “help” me. Anyway, in the book Simon using Abbey to hide his sexuality & sort of pin her off on his blackmailer was shown way more emotionally. Although I 100% understand Simon & don’t think he’s a bad person, what he did was wrong & Abbey had every right to distance herself from him why she was still processing. The key difference in the book was that Simon had been outed & she had supported him 100%. It was only after he was outed that she found out about him using her & sort of cut him off for a short while. The only character I hate in the book but understand a lot better in the movie is Leah. Fucking hate her. She’s annoying.
My two favorite moments in CINEMATIC HISTORY are when Simon says "coming out is supposed to be MINE" and when his mom says "you can exhale now. Makes up for every bad coming out moment I ever have
@1 1 I feel that! My mom was super accepting of me coming out so that moment was special to me. But I disowned my father for how he treated me when I came out so this moment will be the moment I hold in my heart instead
"that's supposed to be my thing" is one of the most powerful lines in film to me. i know what it's like to be outed and the devastation that comes with having such an important moment taken away from you so quickly, and seeing simon stand up to martin and deliver those lines gives me literal chills.
Same. I only trusted my sister with my sexuality and she outed me to my family. At least we talked it out but I can't imagine how painful it must be for someone who has a homophobic family.
That's kind of happened to me and I used that exact line knowing where it was from.It's a horrible thing and the people who do it think they are helping but they really aren't at all.
I cane out to my mom and specifically told her that I wanted to be the one to come out to my family. I got so many phone calls and texts at work it was driving me mad...I was furious
almost everyone ive come out to has outed me to someome else and when i was tslking to my school counselour she said my ep told jer i came out to her and i told my counselour that i had thought my ep already knew/school counseliur told my ep and my school counselour said that thats not her place and its not something you can say for someone and it made me feel safer that someone i know realises that
The part where Simon says something like “coming out is supposed to be MINE, not yours” to Martin made be BAWL when I first saw it. My straight friends in the theatres were so confused
Even in Perks of being a Wallflower Charlie defended Patrick and threw hands at the homophobes despite the fact that they were on bad terms. Charlie was a better friend than Simon's entire friend group.
for those who didn’t read the book: at the end there’s no one there, no 100+ students watching them kiss. it’s super intimate and probably my favorite part, especially how it’s revealed...
I was literally holding back from yelling in the theater when I saw that scene. I would’ve preferred the intimacy Bram and Simon shared by in private in the book.
I read the book but i never watched the movie as much as i wanted to because i heard the movie sucked but in the book his friends are so much better and those scenes where they got mad at him never existed. They were actually a lot nicer in the book.
I read the book after I'd seen the movie and I was DREADING the scene where they would gang up on him and guilt trip him after he'd been blackmailed and THEN ALSO NOT HELP HIM WHEN HE WAS BEING PUBLICLY BULLIED IN THE CAFETERIA?! But then the scene never came and I was like????? Oh so they were just extra douchy in the movie alright
John-Christopher Wolf You really should read it. It is SO good and much better than the movie. I don't normally like romance but as a gay guy, I wanted to see what the book was like. His friends are not pieces of shit in the book.
Martin is 100% the kind of guy who’d raise his hand in history class to say, “Let me play devil’s advocate for a moment. Slavery was GOOD for the economy.”
C H There’s always some asshat out there that either believes it, or is trying to stir up shit to be a troll. Any video about the Civil War has hundreds of comments like that.
I've never seen them as bad until now. I think I always thought if I could have friends that were even close to like they were during the end I was lucky. I'm in a position where all of my family and friends are homophobic and since I'm still closeted i thought if someone did find out some way they would hate me and leave, so with simons case i always thought at least they were supportive.
KiwiMaya _ Good. Martin should count himself lucky he didn’t get shoved off the table during that play. If it was me he would’ve ‘accidentally’ gotten tossed off the stage.
His friends are literally the worst people in this movie because they don’t support him after he was outed and made it feel like it was his fault. Literally the equivalent of the worst friends ever.
@@charliethefrog5319 exactly, literally everyone is getting mad at the friends when i feel like this is a really realistic portrayal of how actual friends would have reacted. yes, being outed is probably the worst feeling ever and i have no right to undermine another person's pain after being outed, but those friends were hurt, as well. do people really expect them to just, forget about themselves and give all their love to a person who basically used their emotions to save himself? and it's not like his outing was their fault, either.
I swear I’m not a violent person but if I was on bad terms with my best friend, and someone was humiliating and bullying them in the way those guys were bullying Simon, I’d throw a punch. No one gets away with that shit
We are actually getting a lesbian rom com movie from Netflix May 1st, its called The Half Of It and it is written by a lesbian so I have hope it will be good
okay this is going to be off topic but can we talk about her beauty cause i can't get over the fact that she gets prettier every time she uploads a new video 🥺
His friends being as upset as they were didn’t really make sense. Realistically, I don’t think they understand how difficult it can be to come out on their own let alone being outed by someone else. For some people, it can literally put their lives in danger.
I agree, I was actually so sad and mad at his friends, while I understand that they shouldn't be happy about being manipulated, Simon was being blackmailed with something that is so personal and something that can be so hard for someone to tell others. His friends could have been more understanding and try to sympathise with what Simon was going through, especially consider what they would do in his situation as well.
Not only that but to be gay and to go through that shit alone, after being outed by someone else and to have ur friends disregard how you're feeling about the situation can cause really low mood and can cause suicide. It's honestly awful
Honestly tho. When my best friend came out to me I WAS SO FREAKING PROUD OF HIM. We then had a long ass conversation about this cute guy he met when he went off for a college thingy. 😊
There's a deleted scene where after Simon gets outed, Nick takes him to a gay club to cheer him up, so it seems his friends are still on his side, and when Simon returns home drunk, his parents aren't sure how to handle his behavior this time because they feel he might be going through something and not talking about it. Afterward is when Simon's friends gang up on him, and I believe it's interpreted to be weeks later, after their school break, when they've not seen him but have had time to figure out that he'd been "scheming" them (so they think). I'm actually disappointed the gay club scene didn't make the final cut because it gives us a chance to see how his friends and family are trying to react to the situation, while just immediately jumping to all his friends turning on him seems really forced.
the book was sooo much better i hope everyone here reads it, his friends are so much nicer especially abby and nick, and his sisters alice and nora are awesome too.
I think sometimes straight ( cishet -just learnt that )people don’t understand the pressure of being closeted. Anytime any conversation goes serious it’s like: should i come out? Or when your parents say: we need to talk about something, its like they found you out. Its TERRIFYINGG.
I was really concerned about telling my parents I was bisexual but when I did they just said “no you’re not hahaha” and the more I said “but I am” the more they laughed and idk how to even approach this lmao
It feel likes your walking on eggshells around everyone until you come out and I don't think straight people understand how terrifying it is to announce something about yourself to the world.
When I came out as trans I had multiple god damn panic attacks in 2 hours. And every support system I had my parents tore down and threatened to take me away from if my support systems didn’t dead name me and call me the wrong pro nouns. It’s not a fucking game it’s not funny. It can be deadly. And any cishets who think they can out a person, wether they’re trans or gay or whatever, I hope you feel the same isolation I felt, and then tell me it’s a game.
In the movie when Simon was sitting alone and those random dudes started making fun of him and abby,leah, and nick didn't even say anything. DISGUSTING
One of my Favorite things about this film was that Simon is gay, but they didn’t just make that his ‘personality’. So many times in TV shows and movies when they’res a gay character, that’s all they are. Studios write them as being gay is their personality.
YES its like they have to wave around how woke they are, its not diversity or representation to shove a walking stereotype in and make their entire storyline and personality be about that
scrolling through the comments trying to find someone talking about whether his friends got that mad in the book because despite reading it twice, i can’t remember if they did
Trin Lovell right so i just figured it out! leah gets upset because simon came out to abby before her, abby gets upset that he mad a choice about her love life BUT two pages later days she’ll give him a free pass bc he was blackmailed, and nick wasn’t mad at all
The actress who played Abby actually said in a behind the scenes video that when Simon was getting bullied in the cafeteria she felt like they should've stood up for him. I agree the way they wrote those three in the film version was a little weird.
I read the book that Love Simon was based on, and his friend's reactions were so much better in the book. Abby was a little upset, but unlike the movie, she's not a complete jerk about it. She basically says that she understands why he did it, but that she needs space from him for a while. Leah's not in love with him, but she does get mad at him for a completely different reason; I think it was because Nick, Abby, and Simon hang out and intentionally don't invite her and she finds out about it. I don't remember Nick's reaction, but if there was one, it probably wasn't bad since I remember they hang out at the carnival like nothing's wrong. I had mixed feelings about the casting. I thought Simon, Blue, and Abby were perfectly cast, but I'm kind of bitter that they cast a beautiful thin girl as Leah when she's fat in the books. There's already limited roles for plus-size actresses and it would have been nice to see a different body type on screen. There were a lot of things I liked better in the book to be honest, but the intended audience for Love Simon was a lot more broad than the intended audience for Simon vs the Homo Sapien Agenda. Other than the Leah casting, my only complaint is that Bram's personality was completely different. I loved how sweet and dorky he was in the books, and in the movie he's a popular party guy. I love the movie, though, Like you said, it really captured the spirit of the book and the moment with Simon's mom was such a lovely addition. Side note: I really enjoyed Leah on the Offbeat, but there's a part where Leah is really awful when someone comes out to her as "a little bit bi" and she gets mad at them because she says that they're either bi or not. Basically, they try to express some really vulnerable feelings to her, and Leah's angry that they're still figuring out their sexuality instead of being certain of it like her. Other than that, I thought it was great, but Leah is a very different character than Simon.
I agree with everything you said! Also I was really disappointed to see that the actress that they chose for Leah was skinny, one of the things that I really loved about her was how relatable she was in the parts about body image.
Yeah I don’t like the crowd at the end either. Makes it seem like being gay is such a spectacle to behold which kinda goes back on the idea of making being gay normalcy.
Andrea Sandoval it’s would have made more sense for it to be just his ‘friends’ and them supporting him just his friends, not the public like it’s a miracle and a stabile or courage, idk just a thought
I mean, that kind of thing happens a lot in romantic teen movies, when the guy finally get to kiss the girl after a big gesture of love and everyone cheer and everything. Idk seems like a ok scene to me
The book was so much better because it had the whole thing where the carnival was closing and he went to the tilt a whirl cuz he knew blue had motion sickness and bram joined him on it anyway and it was really sweet
What about Katy Perry for I Kissed a Girl, Heathers: The Musical for Dead Gay Son, Brendon Urie for everything lol, Queen the singer bc he was gay, Let It Snow on Netflix, etc.
Sorry, but I just can’t agree. Yeah I like how scenarists develop lesbian characters because actually it’s usually deep in the feeling development too. How ever, I feel like instead of seeing characters with different sexualities in all movies, I’d prefer to see diverse characters. Like real characters with a deep personality, no matter their gender, their sexuality or skin. I mean, as a spectator I would like to appreciate a person for who he/she is, and not for the community he/she belongs to. And there begins real equality. (Sorry for my bad English)
The part when they all gang up on him makes me so mad like y’all are supposed to be comforting him when he just got forced out of the closet at that point I was just like drop them you deserve better they’re terrible friends
yes, it made me big time mad. Leah and Nick were just being idk, entitled? Simon was outed after being blackmailed, they could've been 100% way more supportive.
Trin crying at the scene where Simon’s mom is having an emotional talk with him is literally me. His mom is so supportive and understanding. I actually cried at that scene (and many other scenes)when I went with my brother to see it when it came out in movie theaters. I tried hiding it though since I didn’t want to make it obvious. I haven’t came out as bi to anyone and I honestly wish everyone was accepting, but it’s scary to think that not everyone is. My family always makes homophobic remarks and Idk how they’d feel if they found out
I am so sorry you have to kinda hide who you are and how you feel! Just know that you're allowed to decide if and how and when and to who you come out. You don't know me, but if you ever need to talk - I'd love to listen. Don't bottle things up :) Don't know if it makes any difference, me saying these things, but I mean it! xx
Yes, I relate to this. I decided to rent the movie at home and my whole family made homophobic remarks the whole time. I have known I’m bi for 3 years, but I will never come out to them in my life.
When I saw this film in theaters the "you get to exhale now" had me crying. This whole movie was my life, I also got forced out of the closet so this hit home. Things did work out in the end and I still rewatch this movie to get in my feels again.
I thought it was pretty clear that she was upset that he set her up with a guy he knew had feelings for someone else and didn't really like her. (Him thinking she actually liked Nick actually kind of makes the set up worse but obviously I believe Simon thought they might have actually hit it off but Leah doesn't know that)
everyone's crying at the mom's speech scene but I cry when he talks to his dad about it. And that's on severe mommy issues and a good relationship with my dad.
Kathleen Kooper definitely not the only one. My father has made it abundantly clear that this is a choice to feel these things. Which is why I haven’t came out to him or my mother yet. So when I say I sobbed during the scenes with his parents I literally ugly cried. However, I can say that I have much better friends than Simon does. Hope everything in life is going well (: stay safe!
when i talk about the scene with his friends with my straight friends they always defend his friends and say that simon was in the wrong and it really makes me realise that straight people really won’t ever understand at all what it’s like to be closeted and get outed
cat x yeah we won’t ever understand how that feels but like hey I’m straight and I HATE his friends with a BURNING PASSION cause they are just so blind to what Simon was going through and so SELFISH
Simon’s friends reacted so badly in this movie. Abby was the only one who had any right to be mad at him, because he honestly thought he was helping Leah. The reactions were so much better in the books.
I think a lot more straight/cis people are inclined to sympathize with Simon's friends and justify their actions. Not everyone (obviously), but I just think it's harder for them to relate to the true gravity of Simon's situation. I remember seeing this movie in theaters with a very large group of friends, all of whom are straight (I wasn't out at the time) and remember just SEETHING and crying on the inside when they were all like "wow that was really shitty of Simon." They like literally defended his friends and one person was surprised that they made up at the end. And I do get that maybe since this is a more lighthearted movie and Simon comes from a well-off, loving family, it may be a little difficult for some people to understand why he would be so scared. But there is another character in the movie that is actually harassed and publically ridiculed for being LGBTQ and -- in all honesty -- I think we all know that stories like these can quickly escalate into physical violence, death threats, sexual harassment, etc. So the fact that his friends weren't even in the least bit concerned with his mental/physical health and more upset about a tiny inconvenience in their own lives TRULY pissed me off, especially since the real world and real people expect this as a normal, justified response. Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk. I'm still bitter. I totally still love the movie and book, though.
For me, how I see it is, is what Simon kinda shitty? Yeah; did he have a reason for it? Yeah he was getting blackmailed. We all do things in service of ourselves (maybe at the cost of people close to us) and we are all quick to accuse and lick our wounds (his friends getting maybe irrationally upset for feeling messed with but realizing in the end)
@Booper Dooper The fact that they just glossed over the fact that he didn't do it out of his own free will makes them shitty friends. I hate how they all just acted like he did it just to mess with them, ugh.
Joseph G.1.1 Straight individuals will never understand the struggle and pain it is to come out. You’re here trying to say that “oh straights have the problem too” no, they don’t.
Don’t try and blame gender/sexuality for this, irregardless of those two, and whiel it’s super shitty he got outed, he still used his friends for his personal gain
Tea tea tea absolute tea. The book is literally one of my favourite books of all time and the movie just ruined all the characters cut all the great scenes and watered everything down
@@elha1562 the movie is like just bullet points compared to the book- like one of those “setting, rising action, etc” charts i used to do in english class
Her comment on Daniel Radcliffe turning her gay just reminded me of that one tumblr post, where a girl tells a male celebrity, that he's the reason she is a lesbian, although she actually wamted to say that he's the reason she came out as a lesbian. And it just sounds so much like 'you're such a horrible man that I realised I love women'
it doesn’t matter how many times I watch this, the scene where his mom is telling him she accepts him will always make me cry. I can only hope that my parents react half as well when i come out. I just love it so much
I mean I agree they were WAYYYY too over dramatic, and should have been more concerned with Simon's feelings, but I also see why she was mad about being sorta manipulated to go on a date with a guy he KNEW she couldn't stand. I mean he was being blackmailed so I wouldn't have been mad, but I can see why it's a crappy thing to do. I have no sympathy what so ever for the rest of them though
My mom outet me to a lot of people when I wasn’t ready and it was awful... thankfully, no one really took it too harshly, but I still wasn’t ready and I kind of struggled after that. Also, all of the passive aggressive comments were just too much sometimes. My mom didn’t even understand what she did...
I wasn't exactly outed since I've always been comfortable with my sexuality but one time one of her friends was talking about her daughter being a lesbian and my mom goes "this one (aka me) doesn't know what she is yet" ....b i s h I know you're not into the whole bisexual thing but you don't get to say that??? Who do you think???you a r e ???? Lmaoo. It's lowkey totally fucked up but w h a t e v e r
This is the reason why I haven't told my mom yet. She will tell everyone and it will make things worse in my mind. I'm not ashamed of being gay but I would feel bad if she did that to me. I'm sorry you had to experience that. And the saddest part is that she didn't understand the gravity of what she had done.
@@alexj5937 Hey, this is me, about a year or so later. I am on HRT and my mother has finally come around and accepted me. In fact she’s one of my biggest supporters of all time. So yeah, things might not work out at first but they might work out later.
I feel bad for comparing my situation to yours, since being gay is a lot different than being just asexual. But, I also had an experience similar to your's with my sister. I'm not ashamed of being asexual, because really it's so similar to being abstinent or just never finding the right person. But it was more like I get embarrassed whenever someone mentions it, or I just get awkward. My sister, for some reason, thought it was funny. She would tell jokes about it and start pointing it out whenever we're talking about love and sex and whatnot. I have never mentioned it to my family and I don't plan to, but she just sort of connected the dots. And then when I never confirmed it, she instead told me what I was because apparently she reads minds. And she jumped at every opportunity to point out that I'm asexual. Like her friends or my cousin would be in the car with us and someone would mention sex and my sister would cut in and say, "oh it's okay, she's asexual." Or, "she doesn't want to because she's asexual." And she just kept saying it to the point where I got pissed at her. Like why does it even matter? And why does she feel the need to tell random people that I'm asexual? It's not your thing to tell, as Simon says. So why does she think she's entitled to point that out? But I'm sorry about what happened with your mother. Hey, at least everything worked out alright.
“You deserve everything you want” made me start balling too, honey. I watched it in theaters and I couldn’t stop tearing up. Also you’re not an ugly cryer! 😅
i dont understand why his friends were so mad. they understood that he was being blackmailed and why he did what he did yet they still leave him to deal with everything alone.
rules of karaoke:
- dont say the n word
- dont sing well
the 2 laws Queen Trin put into effect after she invented karaoke ❤️
us filipinos who always try to out sing each other reading this: 🤥
amen
Unless you're black and a good singer.
cP lmaoo not filipino but whenever i see filipinos sing karaoke they literally always have a rivalry lol
“My aesthetic... straight-baiting” and “there needs to be more lesbians in movie”
iconic lines by trin Lovell
When Martin was announcing his feelings for her in front of the ENTIRE SCHOOL I literally shrunk into my seat. The second-hand embarrassment was _excruciating._
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@@monimoo5777 I read that the feeling of second hand embarrassment comes from having a lot of empathy
@@tas7606 what you sayin 👀
I was embarrased and it wasn't me on her shoes
Thousandth like
him expecting it to be the waffle house guy is the most RELATABLE thing ever, who doesn't immediately fantasize about having a relationship with a random person after they make eye contact with you for 0.3 seconds
Don't you think it's actually kinda realistic given the fact that he knew that Blue was out there? He probably interpreted every little thing as exagerated because he was trying to find Blue so bad
Dude I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but i do that all the time😭
@@idk-vz1fq me having a crush on a guy for 2 years because we always made eye contact in the hallway and when i wasnt looking he would be staring at me 😊 wasted two years by not doing anything about it ugh
righttt i noticed that😭
Dang well they ruined it with waffle house 🤣🤣🤣
his friends literally tried to equalize having their feelings hurt over a crush with the horror of being blackmailed into coming out as gay. I can never process it either.
Straight people don't even try to understand all the hardships of being gay most of the time
agreed
as someone who was outed at my university, I agree. It was literally the worst 3 weeks of my life.
@@nightlythoughts4701 i'm so sorry that happened to you and i hope you are doing better
See, in the book it was portrayed *a lot* better. As someone who was outed (not blackmailed, ofc, thank god) I have to say it was one of the worst experiences. Especially since it was done to hurt me, not accidentally, or to “help” me.
Anyway, in the book Simon using Abbey to hide his sexuality & sort of pin her off on his blackmailer was shown way more emotionally. Although I 100% understand Simon & don’t think he’s a bad person, what he did was wrong & Abbey had every right to distance herself from him why she was still processing.
The key difference in the book was that Simon had been outed & she had supported him 100%. It was only after he was outed that she found out about him using her & sort of cut him off for a short while.
The only character I hate in the book but understand a lot better in the movie is Leah. Fucking hate her. She’s annoying.
My two favorite moments in CINEMATIC HISTORY are when Simon says "coming out is supposed to be MINE" and when his mom says "you can exhale now. Makes up for every bad coming out moment I ever have
Yep, those two scenes are super well done
@1 1 I feel that! My mom was super accepting of me coming out so that moment was special to me. But I disowned my father for how he treated me when I came out so this moment will be the moment I hold in my heart instead
@1 1 It's all good. He's an asshole so better that he's not in my life :D
You probably haven’t seen any other movie den...
@@amaury12v89 or you don’t understand what these scenes mean to someone who had a hard coming out situation 🙃
Trin: "Don't sing well in karaoke ever"
*High School Musical has left the chat*
KICK THEM OUT
Trin Lovell TRIN NO DON'T DO THIS
And did glee..
Simons friends were literally the "funny youre the broken one" audio from tiktok
ths is so true LOL
LMFAO YOURE RIGHT HAHAHA
@@michelle-hu9qf this made me laugh
😭😭
Omg YESSSSSS
"that's supposed to be my thing" is one of the most powerful lines in film to me. i know what it's like to be outed and the devastation that comes with having such an important moment taken away from you so quickly, and seeing simon stand up to martin and deliver those lines gives me literal chills.
Same. I only trusted my sister with my sexuality and she outed me to my family. At least we talked it out but I can't imagine how painful it must be for someone who has a homophobic family.
That's kind of happened to me and I used that exact line knowing where it was from.It's a horrible thing and the people who do it think they are helping but they really aren't at all.
I cane out to my mom and specifically told her that I wanted to be the one to come out to my family. I got so many phone calls and texts at work it was driving me mad...I was furious
@@queer-ios3155 my sister outed me too, though it was to my friends. :/
almost everyone ive come out to has outed me to someome else and when i was tslking to my school counselour she said my ep told jer i came out to her and i told my counselour that i had thought my ep already knew/school counseliur told my ep and my school counselour said that thats not her place and its not something you can say for someone and it made me feel safer that someone i know realises that
top worst friend groups in movies:
1) simon’s friends
2) Andy’s friends in devil wears Prada
lee lee YAS
lee lee 3) dani’s friends in midsommar
OMG I WAS LITERALLY THINKING TO MYSELF THIS WEEK IF SIMON’S FRIENDS ARE WORSE OR ANDY’S BF sorry for yelling lol
Yes!
@@sloppybitch490 YES?????? hate them
The part where Simon says something like “coming out is supposed to be MINE, not yours” to Martin made be BAWL when I first saw it. My straight friends in the theatres were so confused
That was literally the part where I cried the most
Same. I don’t want someone to take that away from me
Kali Johnston omg ikr I related to him so much that I cried
same i cried so hard
Same
Even in Perks of being a Wallflower Charlie defended Patrick and threw hands at the homophobes despite the fact that they were on bad terms. Charlie was a better friend than Simon's entire friend group.
read the book, abby and taylor almost fight a bunch of jocks, but they were held back by other people and a teacher.
I love thank book I have actually never watched the movie!💕
FACTS.
Didn't Sam also run to defend him even though he was her ex? I haven't seen it in a while but didn't she?
@@adeleaslan8182sam was already in the fight trying to defend patrick
can we talk about how simon getting a minor crush on the waffle house guy for just being a nice person is peak gay culture
distinguished disaster it really is and it’s great. Like I get a crush on every girl who smiles at me
pretty much yeah...
next time @ me 😔
distinguished disaster no literally though
You’re right ;-;
for those who didn’t read the book: at the end there’s no one there, no 100+ students watching them kiss. it’s super intimate and probably my favorite part, especially how it’s revealed...
yeah the movie scene was good, but rushed and with all the people there it was a bit disappointing tbh
yeah idk why but i was cringing at that scene so much. i prefer the book.
Noel Uchendu yeah
Casey Clark yeah. both are decent, but the book is so much better.
I was literally holding back from yelling in the theater when I saw that scene. I would’ve preferred the intimacy Bram and Simon shared by in private in the book.
I really wish his friends like got down on their knees apologized for being a-holes. They were so awful.
Worst friends in movie history.
Don’t call them leaches his “friends” that’s an insult to the meaning of FRIENDS🤦🏾♀️
right they had the nerve to just ask “do you want to go to the carnival” like girl shut up
I read the book but i never watched the movie as much as i wanted to because i heard the movie sucked but in the book his friends are so much better and those scenes where they got mad at him never existed. They were actually a lot nicer in the book.
@@maribug333 yeah. I read the books too and I wish they were like that in the movie
Trin really said gay rights and we have no choice but to stan
Yumi Tomoyo 143 Wait is she gay?
Gifted Wolf I wonder
Yumi Tomoyo 143 trin SCREAMS gay rights every Chance she gets
Gifted Wolf I’m almost positive she’s bisexual, I feel like she’s said that in a video but maybe I’m imagining it
Gifted Wolf I think she said she was queer in one of her Instagram posts
trin taking a selfie while crying is peak gen z behavior
Bro this is so true
i'm sorry but i think i cringed a little
Muhd. Aqiel same
Ngl tho
It made me laugh bc I’ve done that lmaooo
I read the book after I'd seen the movie and I was DREADING the scene where they would gang up on him and guilt trip him after he'd been blackmailed and THEN ALSO NOT HELP HIM WHEN HE WAS BEING PUBLICLY BULLIED IN THE CAFETERIA?! But then the scene never came and I was like????? Oh so they were just extra douchy in the movie alright
Okay I really need to read the book now. I never read it before
John-Christopher Wolf You really should read it. It is SO good and much better than the movie. I don't normally like romance but as a gay guy, I wanted to see what the book was like. His friends are not pieces of shit in the book.
John-Christopher Wolf yes read the book it’s so much better than the movie and simons friends are actually nice in the book 😌
John-Christopher Wolf yesss please read the book his friends are actually good friends in it
I just finished it and the move made them so much worse 😀 also half of the plot just changed ???
"I just want more lesbians in movies"
me, a lesbian: oh word
me also a lesbian: 👀oo say less👀
Me another lesbian: 👀👀🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈👀👀 sure my dude where's my contract???
inuyashhaaa
Me a pansexual.💕💛💙 Love u lesbians.
Y'all should see Jenny's Wedding.
Simon, Bram, and Simon’s parents are the only characters in this movie with rights. i don’t make the rules
Dani Colleen And Nora
Also the drama teacher tbh she was a badass
and ethan
and the little sister
also nora
simon thinking its the waffle house employee is really a gay mood. we really like anyone who pays attention to us
right😭😭
Lmaooo ohh so maybe that's why I fall in love with every friend I have ever had-
…why are you calling me out?
Yeah that happens to me alot
Uhm okay chill no need to get political😭
Honestly his friends were the worst. They knew he was being blackmailed but they left him at the worse time
Kk dragon fr. He was just outed and they treated him like crap
I get Abby maybe being mad, but the other two had no reason to be cruel. They just had to go really formulaic with that part
Kk dragon like it’s okay for Abby to be hurt but the others being awful were uncalled for
FACTS
@@pixieinx i see your point
Martin is 100% the kind of guy who’d raise his hand in history class to say, “Let me play devil’s advocate for a moment. Slavery was GOOD for the economy.”
To continue he would also be the one to say that the main and only cause of the civil war was states rights and had nothing to do with slavery
Kiki in CowTown As an APUSH kid in the middle of Missouri, this is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a while.
literally someone said that in my class so is that a meme or
Andrea Sandoval Lol, exactly!
C H There’s always some asshat out there that either believes it, or is trying to stir up shit to be a troll. Any video about the Civil War has hundreds of comments like that.
i hate how martin romanticizes his interactions with abby. like, he doesn't even know her that well.
Simons “friends” were literally some of the worst people in this movie.
ChildOfDestiny this is why i hated the movie
Exactly they were all selfish
@@karleedegener98 He lied to and manipulated them.
@@DIEGOSHAY because he was being blackmailed.
I've never seen them as bad until now. I think I always thought if I could have friends that were even close to like they were during the end I was lucky. I'm in a position where all of my family and friends are homophobic and since I'm still closeted i thought if someone did find out some way they would hate me and leave, so with simons case i always thought at least they were supportive.
Martin’s gay brother would be very disappointed in him.
Good news! He was canonically disappointed in him in the book :)
unless he didn't have one! duh duh dunananauhhhhhhh?!
KiwiMaya _ Good. Martin should count himself lucky he didn’t get shoved off the table during that play. If it was me he would’ve ‘accidentally’ gotten tossed off the stage.
"Stop crying."
"I can't."
*mood this whole movie*
His friends are literally the worst people in this movie because they don’t support him after he was outed and made it feel like it was his fault. Literally the equivalent of the worst friends ever.
Ebusch 05 they definitely the worst friends ever, the thing that annoyed me the most is that they never apologized to him
He played with their love lives. For his own benefit. They had every right to be angry
@@charliethefrog5319 exactly, literally everyone is getting mad at the friends when i feel like this is a really realistic portrayal of how actual friends would have reacted. yes, being outed is probably the worst feeling ever and i have no right to undermine another person's pain after being outed, but those friends were hurt, as well. do people really expect them to just, forget about themselves and give all their love to a person who basically used their emotions to save himself? and it's not like his outing was their fault, either.
Anime rocks your world: I totally agree, but that doesn’t give them an excuse to not support their friend after something as horrible as that happens.
The Watson true but if they were good friends, they would support him and been there for him during such a difficult time
but the scene where he’s bullied in the lunchroom and none of his “BEST FRIENDS” defend him.....
this always drove me CRAZY!! I don't care how mad I am at someone; If you're being bullied or freaking hate crimed I'm going to say something
Because obviously what they went through was worse than what Simon went through. *(sarcasm if you didn’t get it)*
omg yes. the friends in this movie are almost more dislikable than martin (because martin is actually the antagonist)
kylie yeah that could be how it was... him getting outed may have just been as bad as what they went through
I swear I’m not a violent person but if I was on bad terms with my best friend, and someone was humiliating and bullying them in the way those guys were bullying Simon, I’d throw a punch. No one gets away with that shit
“I’m not a pretty crier.”
That’s a lie, you are gorgeous even when sobbing I can’t-
for real,she looked soo cute
"I just... want more lesbians in movies"
Me too. Me too😪
this is y she loves glee
Literally!!!
🏳🌈
We are actually getting a lesbian rom com movie from Netflix May 1st, its called The Half Of It and it is written by a lesbian so I have hope it will be good
UGH SAME
okay this is going to be off topic but can we talk about her beauty cause i can't get over the fact that she gets prettier every time she uploads a new video 🥺
we really need a skincare and makeup routine🥺🥺
Ik🥺👉🏼👈🏼
Yes. Also that username same
ily
@@LovellTrin Hi Trin love you💖💖
I cried at the talk with his mom and with his dad because I’m scared that my mom wouldn’t love me anymore if she finds out that I’m bi
BellaBella05 YT I don’t know you, but if you ever want someone to support you I can be there. No one should have to deal with a fear like that.
same honey but we'll be okay, me and all of our community are here for you
💙🤍
I hope it works out for you, sending my love and support
Same
His friends being as upset as they were didn’t really make sense. Realistically, I don’t think they understand how difficult it can be to come out on their own let alone being outed by someone else. For some people, it can literally put their lives in danger.
honestly in the context that his friends are stupid high school kids, it kinda makes sense. i’ve dealt with shitty friends like that in high school
Right, I understand a little anger since he was a little manipulative with their emotions, but to completely abandon him is a little messed up.
I agree, I was actually so sad and mad at his friends, while I understand that they shouldn't be happy about being manipulated, Simon was being blackmailed with something that is so personal and something that can be so hard for someone to tell others. His friends could have been more understanding and try to sympathise with what Simon was going through, especially consider what they would do in his situation as well.
Not only that but to be gay and to go through that shit alone, after being outed by someone else and to have ur friends disregard how you're feeling about the situation can cause really low mood and can cause suicide. It's honestly awful
Honestly tho. When my best friend came out to me I WAS SO FREAKING PROUD OF HIM. We then had a long ass conversation about this cute guy he met when he went off for a college thingy. 😊
abby in the wonder woman costume: he-
leah: *nervous bisexual sweating*
There's a deleted scene where after Simon gets outed, Nick takes him to a gay club to cheer him up, so it seems his friends are still on his side, and when Simon returns home drunk, his parents aren't sure how to handle his behavior this time because they feel he might be going through something and not talking about it. Afterward is when Simon's friends gang up on him, and I believe it's interpreted to be weeks later, after their school break, when they've not seen him but have had time to figure out that he'd been "scheming" them (so they think). I'm actually disappointed the gay club scene didn't make the final cut because it gives us a chance to see how his friends and family are trying to react to the situation, while just immediately jumping to all his friends turning on him seems really forced.
A lot of the movie seemed forced ngl. There were too many gaps and we didn't learn much about many of the characters
the book was sooo much better i hope everyone here reads it, his friends are so much nicer especially abby and nick, and his sisters alice and nora are awesome too.
“I will literally cry right now”
*Literally cries, right now*
Trin is literely crying, and the eyeliner is still on fleek.
Drop the eyeliner brand sis
@@mariannorvicepaulagallo7278 Yasss
Please we all have nothing to do
"The only characters that have rights are Simon and Bram and his parents"
What about his sister
😗👉👈
Nah she was too scary in Annabelle Creation
Girl and the teacher too
I think sometimes straight ( cishet -just learnt that )people don’t understand the pressure of being closeted.
Anytime any conversation goes serious it’s like:
should i come out? Or when your parents say: we need to talk about something, its like they found you out. Its TERRIFYINGG.
I was really concerned about telling my parents I was bisexual but when I did they just said “no you’re not hahaha” and the more I said “but I am” the more they laughed and idk how to even approach this lmao
It feel likes your walking on eggshells around everyone until you come out and I don't think straight people understand how terrifying it is to announce something about yourself to the world.
Actually straight trans people exist please just say cishets
They also don’t understand how scary it is to be outed when you don’t want to be out
When I came out as trans I had multiple god damn panic attacks in 2 hours. And every support system I had my parents tore down and threatened to take me away from if my support systems didn’t dead name me and call me the wrong pro nouns. It’s not a fucking game it’s not funny. It can be deadly. And any cishets who think they can out a person, wether they’re trans or gay or whatever, I hope you feel the same isolation I felt, and then tell me it’s a game.
In the movie when Simon was sitting alone and those random dudes started making fun of him and abby,leah, and nick didn't even say anything. DISGUSTING
Aliyah Beth honestly if those are his best friends, boy needs to upgrade
When Simon's dad started crying I almost did too, his parents are just so good 😭😭
I wish I had that too :)
Gay culture is crying at the scene with Simon's mom. every. single. time
One of my Favorite things about this film was that Simon is gay, but they didn’t just make that his ‘personality’. So many times in TV shows and movies when they’res a gay character, that’s all they are. Studios write them as being gay is their personality.
yes like the campy effeminate gay. like some gay (and straight) people are like that, but not every single one.
yas, that's exactly why tall girl was a shit show
YES its like they have to wave around how woke they are, its not diversity or representation to shove a walking stereotype in and make their entire storyline and personality be about that
Yes!
We want a guy with a personality who happens to be gay, NOT a gay guy who happens to have a personality, if you get what I mean.
That's why I always hate the term "Gay Love Story". Can't it just be a "Love Story" between two people who happen to be gay?
scrolling through the comments trying to find someone talking about whether his friends got that mad in the book because despite reading it twice, i can’t remember if they did
SAME. i can only remember the individual talks he had with them.
Trin Lovell right so i just figured it out! leah gets upset because simon came out to abby before her, abby gets upset that he mad a choice about her love life BUT two pages later days she’ll give him a free pass bc he was blackmailed, and nick wasn’t mad at all
@@riversian1488 leah said that she doesn't have a right to be mad in the coming out scene BUT she was mad that they went out without her.
Yah they were mad
simon's 'friends' : *are horrible to simon"
me: *takes off my glasses* "i've seen enough"
I choked on my cereal reading this
The actress who played Abby actually said in a behind the scenes video that when Simon was getting bullied in the cafeteria she felt like they should've stood up for him. I agree the way they wrote those three in the film version was a little weird.
martin is the textbook definition of a guy who feels entitled to everything cause he's "a nice guy"
My Top 10 List of “Love, Simon” Characters That I Wouldn’t Hesitate to Push into Heavy Oncoming Traffic
1. Martin
2. Martin
Yes
2. Simons friends
The play where he’s on the prop. Yeah, I would’ve ‘accidentally’ shoved him off. Play be dammed.
3. martin
trin going “I’m so sowwy 🥺” while she was crying made ME cry shdhsgsgsgs
I read the book that Love Simon was based on, and his friend's reactions were so much better in the book. Abby was a little upset, but unlike the movie, she's not a complete jerk about it. She basically says that she understands why he did it, but that she needs space from him for a while. Leah's not in love with him, but she does get mad at him for a completely different reason; I think it was because Nick, Abby, and Simon hang out and intentionally don't invite her and she finds out about it. I don't remember Nick's reaction, but if there was one, it probably wasn't bad since I remember they hang out at the carnival like nothing's wrong.
I had mixed feelings about the casting. I thought Simon, Blue, and Abby were perfectly cast, but I'm kind of bitter that they cast a beautiful thin girl as Leah when she's fat in the books. There's already limited roles for plus-size actresses and it would have been nice to see a different body type on screen.
There were a lot of things I liked better in the book to be honest, but the intended audience for Love Simon was a lot more broad than the intended audience for Simon vs the Homo Sapien Agenda. Other than the Leah casting, my only complaint is that Bram's personality was completely different. I loved how sweet and dorky he was in the books, and in the movie he's a popular party guy. I love the movie, though, Like you said, it really captured the spirit of the book and the moment with Simon's mom was such a lovely addition.
Side note: I really enjoyed Leah on the Offbeat, but there's a part where Leah is really awful when someone comes out to her as "a little bit bi" and she gets mad at them because she says that they're either bi or not. Basically, they try to express some really vulnerable feelings to her, and Leah's angry that they're still figuring out their sexuality instead of being certain of it like her. Other than that, I thought it was great, but Leah is a very different character than Simon.
I agree with everything you said! Also I was really disappointed to see that the actress that they chose for Leah was skinny, one of the things that I really loved about her was how relatable she was in the parts about body image.
Yeah I don’t like the crowd at the end either. Makes it seem like being gay is such a spectacle to behold which kinda goes back on the idea of making being gay normalcy.
Andrea Sandoval it’s would have made more sense for it to be just his ‘friends’ and them supporting him just his friends, not the public like it’s a miracle and a stabile or courage, idk just a thought
The way the book handled it was so much better. But I did love the movie. It’s just the book was so good
I mean, that kind of thing happens a lot in romantic teen movies, when the guy finally get to kiss the girl after a big gesture of love and everyone cheer and everything. Idk seems like a ok scene to me
The book was so much better because it had the whole thing where the carnival was closing and he went to the tilt a whirl cuz he knew blue had motion sickness and bram joined him on it anyway and it was really sweet
A show that did THAT better is Atypical with Casey and Izzie.
Top 10 lesbian allies:
•Thor
•Hozier
•Trin
•Harry Styles
that’s it that’s the list.
@@carmelaalonsodelasierra6933 trin's bi
Add Penn Badgley and Chris Evans to that list. They're strong supporters of LGBTQ rights.
timothee chalamet
What about Katy Perry for I Kissed a Girl, Heathers: The Musical for Dead Gay Son, Brendon Urie for everything lol, Queen the singer bc he was gay, Let It Snow on Netflix, etc.
Cleome Ocean “queen the singer” LMAOOO you mean freddie mercury?
"i want more lesbians in movies"
don't we all tho
We have plenty, do we not?
@@liampatrick3110 list a few that don’t just exist to be sexualized or viewed in a negative way
"I just prefer it when they're lesbians in the movies" - Yeah me too Trin, me too
petition to make all characters in all movies lesbians
Sorry, but I just can’t agree. Yeah I like how scenarists develop lesbian characters because actually it’s usually deep in the feeling development too. How ever, I feel like instead of seeing characters with different sexualities in all movies, I’d prefer to see diverse characters. Like real characters with a deep personality, no matter their gender, their sexuality or skin. I mean, as a spectator I would like to appreciate a person for who he/she is, and not for the community he/she belongs to. And there begins real equality. (Sorry for my bad English)
Her and Dylan would get along pretty well
Trin and I both crying at the scenes with his mom and dad except she cries like a goddess and I’m literally snotting looking like a literal troll
WHY IS THERE A CROWD WTF???? They should definitely NOT be there. The book ending was WAY better lol
Ikr!!! The book made me cry and gave me chills. This movie ruined a lot of the special moments that really represented the love between Simon and blue
@@elha1562 ф
The part when they all gang up on him makes me so mad like y’all are supposed to be comforting him when he just got forced out of the closet at that point I was just like drop them you deserve better they’re terrible friends
Yes, or how Leah was straight up acting like a fucking r/Nicegirl
He lied on them, they have ever right to be upset with what he did.
Lucifer Nova Sis, Simon did nothing wrong, he was being blackmailed. Coming out is a scary thing.
@@pixieinx The only people that should be rightfully upset is Abby. The other two were just being unusually unfair.
yes, it made me big time mad. Leah and Nick were just being idk, entitled? Simon was outed after being blackmailed, they could've been 100% way more supportive.
normal people: i’ve only watched it once
trin: i’ve ONLY watched it a COUPLE of times
Trin: you cant go to karaoke and sing good
Jade west:😐
Cat valentine: 😟❔
I don’t understand how none of Simon’s friends had a problem with Martin outing him to the whole school
They’re not even his friends at that point
Trin crying at the scene where Simon’s mom is having an emotional talk with him is literally me. His mom is so supportive and understanding. I actually cried at that scene (and many other scenes)when I went with my brother to see it when it came out in movie theaters. I tried hiding it though since I didn’t want to make it obvious. I haven’t came out as bi to anyone and I honestly wish everyone was accepting, but it’s scary to think that not everyone is. My family always makes homophobic remarks and Idk how they’d feel if they found out
I am so sorry you have to kinda hide who you are and how you feel! Just know that you're allowed to decide if and how and when and to who you come out.
You don't know me, but if you ever need to talk - I'd love to listen. Don't bottle things up :)
Don't know if it makes any difference, me saying these things, but I mean it!
xx
I experienced the exact thing that you did, and I still haven’t came out as bi to my family either...
@@joelbarrientes2831 Same goes for you! :)
Yes, I relate to this. I decided to rent the movie at home and my whole family made homophobic remarks the whole time. I have known I’m bi for 3 years, but I will never come out to them in my life.
I felt that
When I saw this film in theaters the "you get to exhale now" had me crying. This whole movie was my life, I also got forced out of the closet so this hit home. Things did work out in the end and I still rewatch this movie to get in my feels again.
His friends are genuinely THE WORST
Especially Martin😤
I think that Abby and Leah were good characters. They were flawed but I think that was what made them interesting.
Don’t call them his “friends” they’re leaches🤮
What, just for being dicks in one or two instances? For the most part they support him.
Right “FRIENDS”
“You set me up to get my heart broken When you thought I was in love with Nick”
HE THOUGHT YOU LIKED HIM!!!!!
jimmel Warrick still he knew nick didn’t like her like that. I think thats what he meant
I thought it was pretty clear that she was upset that he set her up with a guy he knew had feelings for someone else and didn't really like her. (Him thinking she actually liked Nick actually kind of makes the set up worse but obviously I believe Simon thought they might have actually hit it off but Leah doesn't know that)
I’m such a horrible person, I was wanting Simon to turn around and slap martin in the “coming out is supposed to be my thing” scene 😂
Nah that would’ve been iconic 😂
I wanted him to run him over
"Don't go to karaoke and sing good."
*Hayley and Tara from Victorious*
Maybe that's why her dad voted made for them, not because he was her dad but because he knew the rules.
Me: *How does trin look so perfect when she cries*
Trin: *I'm not a pretty cryer*
Me: *surprised pikachu face*
I'm surprised you saw that through your tears
everyone's crying at the mom's speech scene but I cry when he talks to his dad about it. And that's on severe mommy issues and a good relationship with my dad.
simon: *breathes*
trin: phenomenal, unique, exceptional, a true work of art
god i can’t be the only one closing their eyes pretending his parents were mine and accepting me cause DAMNN that hit
Kathleen Kooper definitely not the only one. My father has made it abundantly clear that this is a choice to feel these things. Which is why I haven’t came out to him or my mother yet. So when I say I sobbed during the scenes with his parents I literally ugly cried. However, I can say that I have much better friends than Simon does. Hope everything in life is going well (: stay safe!
So much love for you!!! It will get better 💕
oh my god that's so sweet yet so heartbreaking to me I am so sorry for the situation you are currently in and I promise it'll get better!!
SAME! Especially with the dad scene, that really hit hard.
that's exactly what i did and i SOBBED
the scene where simons mom was talking to him physically hurt my heart
Trin: Daniel Radcliffe turned me gay!
Daniel: AM I A JOKE TO YOU????!!!
Wingardium Lesbiosa
WinGAYdium Lesbiosa
@@Maria-ir1kb lol, that actually cracked me up
when i talk about the scene with his friends with my straight friends they always defend his friends and say that simon was in the wrong and it really makes me realise that straight people really won’t ever understand at all what it’s like to be closeted and get outed
Most of the straight people I know including me didn't agree with the friends.
I know the struggles bro.....all us gays can relate
cat x yeah we won’t ever understand how that feels but like hey I’m straight and I HATE his friends with a BURNING PASSION cause they are just so blind to what Simon was going through and so SELFISH
Simon’s friends reacted so badly in this movie. Abby was the only one who had any right to be mad at him, because he honestly thought he was helping Leah. The reactions were so much better in the books.
Dude these friends were so rude and the worst. Like being outed is the worst thing in the world. And they were worrying about themselves? Dude.
trin is top tier girlfriend material, ion make the rules.
When she watches glee, cmbyn, reads books, AND is funny 🥺🥵
I'm sure her next girlfriend will be very lucky.
Simon’s friends: You’re cruel Simon!
My Nick Wilde impersonation: For what, hurting your feewings?
"The rat got what he deserved" Trin going in on Martin is the biggest mood
@Jarred Knoxthat's a mood
I think a lot more straight/cis people are inclined to sympathize with Simon's friends and justify their actions. Not everyone (obviously), but I just think it's harder for them to relate to the true gravity of Simon's situation. I remember seeing this movie in theaters with a very large group of friends, all of whom are straight (I wasn't out at the time) and remember just SEETHING and crying on the inside when they were all like "wow that was really shitty of Simon." They like literally defended his friends and one person was surprised that they made up at the end. And I do get that maybe since this is a more lighthearted movie and Simon comes from a well-off, loving family, it may be a little difficult for some people to understand why he would be so scared. But there is another character in the movie that is actually harassed and publically ridiculed for being LGBTQ and -- in all honesty -- I think we all know that stories like these can quickly escalate into physical violence, death threats, sexual harassment, etc. So the fact that his friends weren't even in the least bit concerned with his mental/physical health and more upset about a tiny inconvenience in their own lives TRULY pissed me off, especially since the real world and real people expect this as a normal, justified response. Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk. I'm still bitter. I totally still love the movie and book, though.
I dont think its a gay or straight thing bro, i think its a blackmail thing. Some people think you should just yeet blackmail threats out the window
For me, how I see it is, is what Simon kinda shitty? Yeah; did he have a reason for it? Yeah he was getting blackmailed. We all do things in service of ourselves (maybe at the cost of people close to us) and we are all quick to accuse and lick our wounds (his friends getting maybe irrationally upset for feeling messed with but realizing in the end)
@Booper Dooper The fact that they just glossed over the fact that he didn't do it out of his own free will makes them shitty friends. I hate how they all just acted like he did it just to mess with them, ugh.
Joseph G.1.1 Straight individuals will never understand the struggle and pain it is to come out. You’re here trying to say that “oh straights have the problem too” no, they don’t.
Don’t try and blame gender/sexuality for this, irregardless of those two, and whiel it’s super shitty he got outed, he still used his friends for his personal gain
I appreciate the movie for giving us some gay representation, but the book is SO MUCH BETTER
Tea tea tea absolute tea. The book is literally one of my favourite books of all time and the movie just ruined all the characters cut all the great scenes and watered everything down
yesssssssssssss
@@elha1562 the movie is like just bullet points compared to the book- like one of those “setting, rising action, etc” charts i used to do in english class
daniel radcliffe: LET’S GO LESBIANS
He made me bi I stg
OM- this comment SENT ME to MARS! I-
Her comment on Daniel Radcliffe turning her gay just reminded me of that one tumblr post, where a girl tells a male celebrity, that he's the reason she is a lesbian, although she actually wamted to say that he's the reason she came out as a lesbian. And it just sounds so much like 'you're such a horrible man that I realised I love women'
“I just want more lesbians in movies”
Trin istg u HAVE to watch portrait of a lady of fire. An absolute sapphic masterpiece
yes! such a beautiful film
I agree
Also the Korean 2016 movie "The Handmaiden"
Yes, that movie is everything
I also hated Simon's "friends" getting angry, it makes me unspeakably mad!!!!
"I want more lesbians in movies" - I want more lesbians in my life
Top ten most hated characters of movies
1. Martin
2. His friends
3... that’s it
4. Lol
I C E D T 3 A you forgot simon
Yanãja Anderson Wtf no we Stan Simon in this house
PassThe Butter yes we do
You forgot the principle
Umbridge. Idc she’s not in this movie but I still hate her
it doesn’t matter how many times I watch this, the scene where his mom is telling him she accepts him will always make me cry. I can only hope that my parents react half as well when i come out. I just love it so much
Simon needs to drop those "friends" ASAP and start hanging out with Trin. Actually we all need to hang out with Trin 😂😁
I mean I agree they were WAYYYY too over dramatic, and should have been more concerned with Simon's feelings, but I also see why she was mad about being sorta manipulated to go on a date with a guy he KNEW she couldn't stand. I mean he was being blackmailed so I wouldn't have been mad, but I can see why it's a crappy thing to do. I have no sympathy what so ever for the rest of them though
i truly wish that simon would’ve gone off on them when they all ganged up on him. it’s legit like “what not to do” when someone comes out to you
My mom outet me to a lot of people when I wasn’t ready and it was awful... thankfully, no one really took it too harshly, but I still wasn’t ready and I kind of struggled after that. Also, all of the passive aggressive comments were just too much sometimes.
My mom didn’t even understand what she did...
i'm so sorry 🥺
I wasn't exactly outed since I've always been comfortable with my sexuality but one time one of her friends was talking about her daughter being a lesbian and my mom goes "this one (aka me) doesn't know what she is yet"
....b i s h
I know you're not into the whole bisexual thing but you don't get to say that??? Who do you think???you a r e ???? Lmaoo. It's lowkey totally fucked up but w h a t e v e r
This is the reason why I haven't told my mom yet. She will tell everyone and it will make things worse in my mind. I'm not ashamed of being gay but I would feel bad if she did that to me. I'm sorry you had to experience that. And the saddest part is that she didn't understand the gravity of what she had done.
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Hey, this is me, about a year or so later. I am on HRT and my mother has finally come around and accepted me. In fact she’s one of my biggest supporters of all time.
So yeah, things might not work out at first but they might work out later.
I feel bad for comparing my situation to yours, since being gay is a lot different than being just asexual. But, I also had an experience similar to your's with my sister.
I'm not ashamed of being asexual, because really it's so similar to being abstinent or just never finding the right person. But it was more like I get embarrassed whenever someone mentions it, or I just get awkward.
My sister, for some reason, thought it was funny. She would tell jokes about it and start pointing it out whenever we're talking about love and sex and whatnot. I have never mentioned it to my family and I don't plan to, but she just sort of connected the dots. And then when I never confirmed it, she instead told me what I was because apparently she reads minds. And she jumped at every opportunity to point out that I'm asexual.
Like her friends or my cousin would be in the car with us and someone would mention sex and my sister would cut in and say, "oh it's okay, she's asexual." Or, "she doesn't want to because she's asexual." And she just kept saying it to the point where I got pissed at her.
Like why does it even matter? And why does she feel the need to tell random people that I'm asexual? It's not your thing to tell, as Simon says. So why does she think she's entitled to point that out?
But I'm sorry about what happened with your mother. Hey, at least everything worked out alright.
when she said "only simon, bram, and his family get to stay" ...I felt that
no one:
trin: **cries in subtle texan accent**
"you get to exhale now" is a GRUESOME line. it makes me cry even when i read it omg
Trin: I'm not a pretty crier
*proceeds to snap selfie*
i mean, same doe
this movie made me cry purely cause of the fact that i would never have parents as supportive as simon’s
Me too, I don't think I'll ever come out to my parents. But I'm happy that I can be myself around my friends hehe
@@livvyg5081 I can't come out to my parents too but my friends and sister are okay
Oh, I felt this so much
SaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaame
Same dude
“You deserve everything you want” made me start balling too, honey. I watched it in theaters and I couldn’t stop tearing up.
Also you’re not an ugly cryer! 😅
ah yes, the generic, but not disliked, a side character who catches feelings that aren't reciprocated
😭 deadass
make it stoppp
I get goosebumps every time she says "you can exhale Simon." That scene basically rips my heart out.
" you can exhale now simon." that was beautiful.
i dont understand why his friends were so mad. they understood that he was being blackmailed and why he did what he did yet they still leave him to deal with everything alone.