join us in Camden Town where we discuss our thoughts on integrated Vs GU10 light fittings and why you might consider no longer installing integrated downlighters
I completely agree. The only time I install integrated is where a GU10 can cannot fit and I need something low-profile. The likes of JCC screwed a lot of us right over in the earlier days of LED with their FGLED product that was disastrous. Not only did they start popping, JCCs warranty demanded you had proof of purchase which most end client's didn't, and their builder or previous electrical contractor didn't want to know. Of course, JCC weren't the only ones whose lifespan didn't meet the claims on the box, but they were a very visible and common one to come across. I'd rather fit a GU10 lamp, warranty it for two-years, then after that it's down to the client to screw in a replacement when the thing finally dies.
Im star stuck David you’re the first you tuber I watched, JCC got allot of people into trouble, in the comments below is an Australian spark who gets a 7 year warranty and a manufacturer labour cover if he gets a call back… what a dream manufacturer
The way you do your downlight measurement calcs is exactly how I do mine. really enjoying your content. Id say they Dade or its starret version is a game changer in downlight worth every penny!!!!
The downlight spacing is actually wrong Should divide the space by number of lights to be fitted. Which achieves a better spread of light, as the light nearest the wall allows the wall to spread the light output as well I would have gone with 3500mm / 4 lights = 875mm 875mm /2 = 437mm Lights spacing 437 💡- 875 💡875 💡 875 💡 437 Great video as always, And the DADE is a game changer. 👍👍
Good to see someone else using plastic sheeting to protect customers finishes. The DADE is a great piece of kit, even if you only do downlights occasionally, saves all that dust going into the air, in your eyes, and clogging up your drill chuck. I can remember making a couple of dades before the commercial one became available, out of a round plastic ice cream tub, and the other was just a cardboard box with a hole for the chuck and taped to the drill to catch the dust (this was in an older house with lathe and plaster ceilings, very messy otherwise) Great well presented videos. All the best with your new channel. Pete 👍
This is my first time on your channel, following a YT suggestion as I watch Davo Savo, Bundy, Artisan and too many to list. lol. Great work on your video quality and editing. Regards from Sydney, Australia
For the basement bar, LED tape inside an aluminium corner profile with diffuser, for your downlight get yourself a stud budy and find the studs before you drill your pilot holes, then when you do, bend a cutting of stripped wire into an L shape with the bit you insert into the hole the radius of the downlight, give it a spin to make sure no obstacles before you cut the hole. Good content, keep it different
Hey Mate, I'm an Irish electrician in Perth Australia, I use integrated downlights a lot, it depends on the manufacturer really. I use Voltex here which has a 7 yr manufacturer warranty and if it fails before that Voltex will pay you to go back and replace it. Great content mate, keep it up.👍
I wonder if you can put a soft LED strip shooting up on that rail that's around 6-8" from the ceiling? Looks around 6' high may be...if you are? Or may be the that bench seat at kickboard level if only a bit extra light is needed? Those rubbish catch things are great and simple, just bought one me self last week. Nice channel mate 👍
I completely agree. The only time I install integrated is where a GU10 can cannot fit and I need something low-profile. The likes of JCC screwed a lot of us right over in the earlier days of LED with their FGLED product that was disastrous. Not only did they start popping, JCCs warranty demanded you had proof of purchase which most end client's didn't, and their builder or previous electrical contractor didn't want to know. Of course, JCC weren't the only ones whose lifespan didn't meet the claims on the box, but they were a very visible and common one to come across. I'd rather fit a GU10 lamp, warranty it for two-years, then after that it's down to the client to screw in a replacement when the thing finally dies.
Im star stuck David you’re the first you tuber I watched, JCC got allot of people into trouble, in the comments below is an Australian spark who gets a 7 year warranty and a manufacturer labour cover if he gets a call back… what a dream manufacturer
Good job Mayday.
The way you do your downlight measurement calcs is exactly how I do mine. really enjoying your content. Id say they Dade or its starret version is a game changer in downlight worth every penny!!!!
A game changer indeed, sparky minds think alike
The downlight spacing is actually wrong
Should divide the space by number of lights to be fitted. Which achieves a better spread of light, as the light nearest the wall allows the wall to spread the light output as well
I would have gone with
3500mm / 4 lights = 875mm
875mm /2 = 437mm
Lights spacing
437 💡- 875 💡875 💡 875 💡 437
Great video as always, And the DADE is a game changer.
👍👍
Good to see someone else using plastic sheeting to protect customers finishes. The DADE is a great piece of kit, even if you only do downlights occasionally, saves all that dust going into the air, in your eyes, and clogging up your drill chuck. I can remember making a couple of dades before the commercial one became available, out of a round plastic ice cream tub, and the other was just a cardboard box with a hole for the chuck and taped to the drill to catch the dust (this was in an older house with lathe and plaster ceilings, very messy otherwise) Great well presented videos. All the best with your new channel. Pete 👍
Thank you Pete I really appreciate your feedback, I remember the plastic bowel when it it’s the lathe 😬 very messy
This is my first time on your channel, following a YT suggestion as I watch Davo Savo, Bundy, Artisan and too many to list. lol. Great work on your video quality and editing. Regards from Sydney, Australia
Thank you Jim your comments make it all the more worthwhile
Don't forget JW, aka 'The Boffin'.
For the basement bar, LED tape inside an aluminium corner profile with diffuser, for your downlight get yourself a stud budy and find the studs before you drill your pilot holes, then when you do, bend a cutting of stripped wire into an L shape with the bit you insert into the hole the radius of the downlight, give it a spin to make sure no obstacles before you cut the hole. Good content, keep it different
I like this idea very much
Great minds think alike! Wish you all the success... Your content is really great!
Thank you luke I try to be a bit different from the other you tubers by just keeping it real
Hey Mate, I'm an Irish electrician in Perth Australia, I use integrated downlights a lot, it depends on the manufacturer really. I use Voltex here which has a 7 yr manufacturer warranty and if it fails before that Voltex will pay you to go back and replace it. Great content mate, keep it up.👍
Hello Alan that’s a very good manufacturer unfortunately we have nothing like that in the UK
I also envy you for being in Australia where electricians are better regulated, paid and generally viewed as a high standing profession
Great video mate👍
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I wonder if you can put a soft LED strip shooting up on that rail that's around 6-8" from the ceiling? Looks around 6' high may be...if you are? Or may be the that bench seat at kickboard level if only a bit extra light is needed? Those rubbish catch things are great and simple, just bought one me self last week. Nice channel mate 👍
Possibly the best solution so far chris
Hey nice video again. Would you consider govee phantom rgbic along the edge of the ceiling. ? Ref lighting in bar.
Quite possibly Hinesh I’ll check the link out for them
You should get Durex to sponsor you after the latex comment 😂👏
Haha I’m glad someone got the joke 🥰
Doesn't the UK require metal clips or equal, to prevent premature collapse and entangling fire fighters?
Not above 3 layers of plasterboard
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Is the wooden surround around the ceiling hollow? Perhaps decking lights in there?
That’s a good option as it is hollow Gareth
I have a house full of Collingwood Halers integrated downlights. Not one failure. No, I don't work for them...
the collingwoods are the best and they are not super expensive either
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