I'm telling you. But let me share that even the name "Carrib" is African. There was one group called the Karriba people which also has a group by Zambia borders called lake Karribi near the Tongas. They have a dirty called "Nyame Nyame" which Ganja is smoked through for an offering. Nyame is used in the Caribbean.
@@Melanin_Move Which part of the Caribbean are you from, I am Dominican Carib/Karib/Qarib (Of God) Kalinago. We originally came from East Africa to the Caribbean, not the lies European historians are peddling that we came down the Orinocco River of South America, that's fake!..
You will find that this type of diversity is also common in other countries; All of the language families of Africa are spoken in Sudan, Nigeria includes Niger-Congo, Chadic(Afroasiatic), Arabic & Nilosaharan languages similar story for Cameroon.
@@DWThe77Percent first we need to decolonise our minds then we will able to see value in ourselves and things we do. Secondly we need a universal language which will allow us to communicate, long list, am from Gambia seeing this confirms believe of our hunger for each other as young Africans.
@@chernobadrammeh881 Agree "Separate free from them" The oppressors, colonisers Europeans,be completely free Away from Them Question is,is DW Africa a african Production? it's difficult bcus they come to Africa in packs n droves and spend. What are they really Comng to do? They are the same pple from yesterday the slave masters their mind set, i have seen a white woman directing giving directions In the background in other videos
That train idea should definitely be considered. Europe has a system where you can get through all the countries. Africa should be connected so the continent can continue to grow, develop, trade and build commerce. As a Black American I can't say what should happen but I can say that I know it'll elevate the financial opportunities when Africa works more within. But that's just my opinion.
Just seeing this today. The questions, interviews, interviewees is so refreshing to listen to. As a black American, this conversation resonates so deeply. I hope to finally visit the continent early next year. Regardless of where we got dropped off on the slave trade route, at our core, we are African.
Great discussion. Africa is in good hands with this generation! I just want to add that as an American African (to most an African American, but it’s all in one’s mindset and values) we share many of these same concerns voiced in this conversation. Just because my great, great, great got snatched away from Yorubaland and my wife’s ancestors from the Mende, Fula, Temne and Kpelle peoples ended up here and experienced countless horrors and, made amazing and sometimes detrimental adaptations to survive, doesn’t mean we don’t experience devaluation of our personhood and cultural contributions, as well as appropriation and commodification of our African culture. And although we number many diverse groups in the diaspora we are still working out and developing our collective African identity as well. Even with hundreds of years and thousands of miles separating us, we still have more in common than we do separating us concerning both our story and our collective interests. WE are the future and the future is NOW. Ashe’!
One things i admire about East African is there Women love their natural hair and embracing their authentic beauty. Take a look how many women there with Lock, compare to West African, women who always like wear fake Wig, and sweating in that hot African sun. To define our truth African identity. we must embrace everything African. From our Hair, Cloth, Food, Music. We must stand define our self, never allowed other to define our African for us.
I wonder how long it will take for the foreign cultures to co-opt the African hair industry and earn the millions $$ that Black women should be earning in the business (i.e. Koreans in U.S. are example)....
Eniola Apata I understand what you are saying but just because they wear extensions, weaves, wigs, you can’t ASSUME that they don’t embrace their natural hair, well, natural beauty overall. Most women just like how versatile it is to wear these things, allowing them to try different styles. Please don’t make it seem like West African women lack confidence. I’m a West African woman myself (Ghanaian) and I felt slightly offended. Pleas do not make that generalization.
@@DivineCreationsbyDorleneLLC I am must have use some, for not generalizing, all West African Women. I am sorry, if you feel offended. I am writing base on experience in my travelling to East Africa, Tanzania in particular, I was amazed with their love of their natural hair, and the same in Ruwanda, Burundi, Ugandan and Kenya.
Everybody in the world is sensitive about their nationhood and their identity, not just Africans. I agree with Tetu Shani. African identity is tied in with our unique race and our history, so yes, it is exclusive. We have all noticed that most Africans welcome people from other backgrounds into Africa more than other people welcome Africans into their societies. They know not to be too emotional at accepting people. They are more cautious because they like their societies the way that they are. Africans on the other hand, can be over-generous, especially to people from other racial backgrounds and they are almost grateful that people want to come and live in Africa. The reason is - we haven't quite overcome our inferiority complex.
I think the young are waking up. I think Africans can be generally naive about how evil, exploitative and racist. The moment they travel their eyes are opened. Thanks to the internet even those without travel are starting to realize that they need to protect, build the continent and be proud of their identity.
Again, when I listen to Africans speak, there is a sense of feet on the ground and a strong foundation of things. These folks get it. These voices need places of influence. Because, all the ingredients are there except for perhaps fighting off the foot that is stepping on their/our culture.
Music is a huge capital. As an African American, I heard of Nigeria music since the early 90s. But, when South Africa dropped House Music in the mid 2000s, BLACK COFFEE!!! WHEW!!! I'm from Chicago. House Music is considered heritage music since the 1980s. The music of South Africa makes me want to travel there.
@@amaradumbuya2099 stop with the disinformation South Africa host millions of African migrants than any country in Africa, and gues what we didn't put them in refugee camps like many countries do, but we incorporated them into communities. Illegal immigrants is however the problem as we have influx, of Indians, Pakistanis, polish, malays, chechslovakians, etc
There is a unified aspect of African culture, it is the DRUM and DANCE!... No matter what language you speak in Africa and in the African Diaspora, the DRUM and DANCE is King and Queen, so much so that other cultures have appropriated it. It is connected to the heart!..
'We are more woke in our mindsets than in our actions'. Very true. The reason why our actions are substandard is because a huge percentage of Africans are still within level 1 0r 2 of Maslows hierarchy of needs. We need to satisfy the basic needs first because we can move on to other things. No community can prosper in the midst of hunger, insecurity and illness.
It begins in the mind before it manifests in reality. Give it some time. We are beginning to rise to the occasion. I agree with the maslows hierarchy comment but this is why we must rely upon one another for our needs because we are currently subjected to other nations and if they decide we should eat. Some of us eat well... those of us who do must help those of us who do not.
Came for Edith Kimani's exceptional intelligence and beauty (my heart!), and stayed for the conversation. For me, the importance of African Identity is to evolve "Africaness" from geographic to spiritual, mental, and emotional. the past of Africa continues to taint africa's present. Modern African is to begin a new evolution away from the trapping of the white mind. It is to think afrocentric, to forward one's capacity in new ways that take the best of the modern (technology) and the best of the past (ancestral connections, humility and respect for the land) to create a new modern african mind.
it's interesting subject and as far as i know there has been a lot written about. i had some conversations about that over the years (and i'm an european white guy so i don't even know much about about afro-american "africanism"(?) but i think the general opinion is, that this is some sort of naive romanticism... i mean africans are also more aware about idi amin, mubutu, papa doc.. very distructive forms of radical traditionalism .. and also they think that "traditional african medicin"... is just quakery
It is skin colour. For too long we have suffered because of our skin colour. So now that African are rising, we want to keep our identity, you need the colour.
More than skin color. It's hair texture and features too. Indians have the same range of skin color but some believe due to their hair texture and features they are a bit above us. White racists divide Horner Africans from other black Africans based on their hair texture. Belgians divided Tutsi and Hutu based on their nose and head shapes. It is a very toxic mind that does things like that. And one we must recognize as toxic and love ourselves in our diverse forms.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Being African is not just about skin color. Here in East Africa (Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Rwanda, Tanzania, Burundi, Sudan) we have so many people who are not black. Many of them are Asians originally from India and Sri Lanka, many of them are Arabs originally from Oman, Yemen and North Africa and their families have been in Africa for hundreds of years and in Kenya Indians are even now officially recognized as the 44th tribe of Kenya. These people still respect their ethnic heritage (as all ethnic groups in Africa do), but they also call Africa home. They sound like Africans, dance like Africans and they invest in Africa and hold leadership roles. Africans have never always been black, and will never always be black. Being African is about culture and spirit, not outward appearance.
@RODDY RICH WIFE At a certain point immigrants become native even if they aren't indigenous. Speaking only of my country, Kenya, in Mombasa there are people who are clearly of Arab descent but who have been there since the Middle Ages and don't know anything about Yemen or Oman where their ancestors came from. They're fully accepted as Kenyans, just of a different ethnic group than the majority of the country. If them being in Africa for over 1000 years is not enough to make them African then what is? You can see that even one guy in the street debate mentioned Indians and people from the coast being considered African because of how long they've been there. Trust me on this one, learn from the problems in the West, that trying to decide who is and isn't African based PURELY on race is going to create significant problems for our descendants when Africa attracts more and more immigrants in this century.
As a total outsider I love that there are more and more of these voices from young intelligent Africans to be heard. It changes the percetpion of these places so much!
African identity will be upgraded when african governments jointly form a global media of their own to propagate african ideaologies(fashion, culture, music, language, food and tourist destinations)to the world
I am an African first I was born in the United States. My for Father's were brought here through slavery. My Homeland will forever be Africa. And I plan to return to my homeland, the place where my for Father's longed to be.
@@dcwashingtonpresident5938 African American is a newly made up identity.find out who your people are you are American stop begging for acceptance from Another landmass because fake history told you so.This individual obviously don't respect us always is a derogatory word along side the N word
The human tends to tend towards what he perceives an end. In this persepctive, African identity becomes so important to many young Africans, probably because it is where they find an end in forms of sense, since they feel that they environments they are in do not give them keys of belonging. Thus, as a reaction the phenomenon of identity withdrawal, with Africa as a receptacle. As regards, young Africans of African diaspora. As regards young Africans on Africa continent and especially the so-called Sub-Saharan Africa, the identity withdrawal is a manifestation against colonial heritages, perceived as a denial African identity.
It should not matter where you were born or whether or not you live in Africa. You can be African elsewhere. The rest of the world will tell you very quickly who you are no matter where you are especially when it comes to how you are treated by non-African or non-African diaspora descendants. We are ALL Africans and we need to come together because across the world we are all treated badly no matter where we live and have many false narratives put out about us. We have many of the same struggles such as people stealing our ideas and taking credit for things they did not come up with first. Come together as one!
Ur soo brainwashed it’s hilarious people get treated Bad everywhere where ever they are from. White people are treated bad here in the us. Ur living in a victimhood complex that doesn’t exists If u guys were soo United. I say Uganda. Kenya. Drc should all unite as one let’s see how that plays out. Hint. It will fail. Just like if Germany and uk were to unite
I HAVE NEVER HEARD A SO CALLED LAWYER SO SHALLOW. THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO BIND US TOGETHER AS AFRICANS IS OUR COLOUR. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. LIKE PETER TOSH (THE LATE GREAT) SAID "DON'T REALLY CARE WHERE YOU COME FROM AS FAR AS YOU ARE A BLACK MAN/WOMAN YOU'RE AN AFRICAN" .
Afro American, Afro Caribbean people needs to unite and visit the continent. The media portrayed Africa as the worse place to visit or take holidays. Then if we build our own aeroplanes to take us from America to Africa to the Caribbean. Then we need to pray against the adversaries who will try to shoot down our aeroplanes. Africans would need to have our own aeroplanes circle in the sky route. Africans needs our own identity and we do have our own identity as long as we refused to copy the western world. Afro American, Afro Caribbean and Africans must unite and stamped out corruptions. UNITED CONTINENTS OF AFRICA and AFRICANS using ONE CURRENCY exchange rate. ONE LOVE. One common language and common sense.
Edith,pls it would do us Africans more good to discuss African related discussions in native languages,and subtitled or translated for others who can't understand to really join the conversation. Discussions of our identity MUST be done in our native languages
" If you are a black man, you are an African " Song by a Jamaican singer and songwriter. Black people are Africans. Africans are black people. Afro Americans, Afro Caribbean people are Africans.
Bravo, bravo, bravo! This video should have millions of views. Such an enlightening, deep, and thoughtful conversation. I have great hopes for the rise of the young intelligentsia in Africa to take over and build a vision for a modern African identity in their respective countries and regions.
Deuteronomy 28:1-2 [1]And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: [2]And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.
We thank the DW Africa for bringing this African identity program to light for an individual contributions..my simple opinion about this is that Africans as already carrying there identity with them since when they were born to this world and wherever they were born our chocolate and black colour is unique.. At the same time.. more than enough for our identification wherever we are in this world.. What we needed to do more is to unite and strengthen our Bond it in the eyes of the world.
exactly 💯 my DNA PROVES THAT..IM GOING TO INVEST IN MY HOMELAND..I DON'T CARE WHAT OR WHO ACCEPTS ME. IM AFRICAN JUST HAPPENED TO BE BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL
DW IS A PROPAGANDA AND A WESTERN BS USDING A BLACK WOMAN TO DESTROY AFRICAN CULTURE PUSHING THE RAINBOW FEMINIST AND LESBIAN GAY AGENDA, SHE IS FULL OF BS AND PUSHING GLOBALISM, WE DONT NEED COLONIZATION NOR WESTERNAZATION,
R&B and Hip Hop is African music. It's music created by the children of Africa. It is the African spirit that's in action within the music that makes it great. African-American accomplishments and contributions ARE African contributions because we too are the CHILDREN OF MOTHER AFRICA. We ARE African, we have her in our spirit (if we all recognize it or not), we have in our skin, we still speak her language (within the English) and we share in her experience of oppression and exploitation.
First time i have heard any African talk with knowledge. Brother Kamal the sister who hosts this show works with white German people our enemy she cant even set up her own channel without white mas help disgusting
@@DWThe77Percent YOUR RACE jesus christ whats wrong with people! Are you a NEGROID? Are you black race? Yes? Then you african. What the hell is so complicated?
@@babyhousewifee what the hell are you talking about? You wouldnt have accomplished anything without africa because its where your physical bodies come from! Africans need to become more race conscious and less tribal. Pan africanism has it RIGHT ideologically speaking. Stop fronting like we dont have the answers
African identity is important to me as a way to assert the presence of African ideas into international debate. Our opinions and narratives have been excluded for a long time but now, more than ever, particularly with the youth, we are asserting our place in the world.
Language is not an excuse for lack of integration in Africa. The European Union is a mosaic of languages (i.e. French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, etc.,) but has managed to integrate. In fact, our diverse languages is our strength and what defines us as people. Integration has the potential to bring us together to appreciate each other, share ideas, and improve socio-economic outcomes.
Being yourself is a 'birthright' and wherever you are it will always be YOU.Embrace all what you have been given then your developement as a Person will Open your Full Potential.
Before we talk about our continent we should accept each other. I am from Eritrean proud to be an African. We should accept our personality. Our origin,geography location, culture, history , morality.... that diversity makes us pleasing the senses (mind aesthetically).
Africans and African Americans are the same people and that's the problem with this conversation. To say that Africans wait on African Americans is an oxymoron
Loving the dialogue from California, USA.. a thought is continued colonization and neo-colonialism there will be an ongoing need for embracing the identity of Africanization in reflection of white supremacy and racism that are protested by that colonialism.
Jemimah, blessings flow. The young AFRICAN only knows the Colonial teachings and the Colonials themselves, and the young AFRICAN feels it is okay, so much so that, they are placing themselves as johnny come lately. ""Education is the key for betterment, in this modern time, this modern time, education is the key for betterment, don't waste your time"" (Warrior King)
@@charlesgrant7300 Sorry, Africa is not a new name either. The name Africa has been existence a long time ago, such that no one is exactly sure when the name came into existence. A school of thought think the name Africa was coined by the Romans. The name Africa was certainly in existence before Europe. Europe was named as a continent in 1824.
After listening to the program I am shocked that Africans on this program do not feel the pride of being Africans. The white man has done a job not just on Africans in the west but those from Africa to distance themselves from Africa.
This is uplifting conversation and too encouraging, as Africans we need to have the sharping sense of reason that will not move as in the order of created beings.
R&B, Rap, and Rock were all started by African-Americans and not by European Americans. So, at the 10 minute mark, the African lady says Africans are culture vulture because they have been influenced by R&B from the West. So, is she saying African-Americans are not African? or do Africans just not know that African-Americans created all of the American musical styles except may be country although even country is heavily influenced by African-American musical forms such as blues, R&B, etc.
Love the street vibes, am watching from the Caribbean islands St. Kitts and Nevis. I reach out to lots of youths in Nigeria, Ghana, Uganda to name a few on social media about the late President John Mugafuli & they don't even knew of him sadly.
Im shocked some Kenyans can speak of embracing African identity, when mostly they are the ones who are quick to deny their African heritage in favour of western lifestyle.
As a Kenyan that's very true! Some Kenyans pride so much in not being able to speak their mother tongues. We think it's classy!We measure intelligence on how well one can speak English. In fact you will find the current generation of parents talk to their kids in English and some even choose not to give them Kenyan tribal names. A sad trend I have noted.Tribalism has also made it worse since most Kenyans believe that if we dnt speak mother tongues its a way of ending tribalism. Yes we have Swahili as our national language but we have neglected our mother tongues. We lack tolerance and are ashamed when it comes to speaking our mother tongues. I remember we used to be punished in high school if one spoke in mother tongue. The whole school would know that you spoke mother tongue by wearing a MOTTO on your neck. It was until I left high school I realised how brainwashed we are as a people and more as Africans. We have no pride in our culture at all. Sometimes I would talk to someone who comes from my own ethnic group in mother tongue and they refuse to respond in it because they are either ashamed or think its backwards. I am glad I learnt my mother tongue in school in the 90s and my parents have always spoken to me in my mother tongue which I can proudly speak and write. I will make sure I teach my kids my language. Swahili and other languages they will learn in school.
@@soupgod1448 You know there are those who are but most of us are not. Even patrotism we hardly have that. Look at our local tvs. I have lived in South Africa and I cant tell you there are very few times I saw anything from Kenya on tv or from other countries. South Africans may have their cons but they are proud of their country and culture.
@@LolaBugzy85 well that's true also I've realized that I agree with you in everything but you have to realize some people don't know how to communicate in their native languages because they grew up in urban areas Me for instance I dunno how to speak my native language because I was raised allover the world we kept moving so dont confuse no knowledge of mother tongue with being a sell out I've met so many people who are stunt pan africanists but dunno their native languages
@@soupgod1448 Sweetheart did I mention anything to do with being a sell out. I simply said SOME Kenyans find it so cool and very unclassy to speak their mother tongue and are perpetuating the narrative by encouraging the same with their kids.
Great debate, very proud of these africans, i am coming back from The Netherlands to rebuild the continent. I am going to bring everything I have! After 20 years The west made me sick!
As long as you're a black man you're an African, so because we were sold by African into slavery we are no more African here in the diaspora? As a Jamaican I'm so disappointed hearing this madness. Only if African seen me as an African I'm not, sad.
@@Joejourney.5073 As an African myself we do consider African diaspora as Africans ,the problems comes when the African diaspora dont consider themselves Africans or see themselves as less African that is something I've seen in the US and Europe, the Caribbeans generally have a stronger African identity. I hope we do get together as black people of African descent and improve our situation
I’m sorry, but thinking we Africans should consider you Africans is entitlement. To the point where African Americans wanting to live in Africa are demanding citizenship. What have you guys contribute to the country? Have you ever felt compassion when you see the mistreatment of any African? The truth is Caribbeans and African Americans have discriminated against us Africans for years. Even till this day. I believe you should educate yourselves and stop demanding we recognise you as one of us because the mentality, and resentment you all still have is not one we Africans care for or tolerate.
@@elehoaku7541 I see no problem with African Americans wanting to live in Africa and citizenship, as long as their ❤️ is in Africa, that's all that matters. Personally I haven't been discriminated against by either the Carribeans nor African Americans, so I can't speak on that matter. Most folks of those background that I met have been very nice and welcoming, felt like I was talking to an African of another country.
There seems to be confusion here. There's a difference between being an African Citizen & African Culture. Some of their responses were speaking towards being an African Citizen. Yet most seemed to be referencing embodying African cultures and traditions.
We have so much division with in each African countries As whole African to be identified as one we have along way to go. As i say internal division with in each countries need to be solved first.
One African Passeport and one ID number shared is tangible representation of our identity. African identity is important because we have to know who we are , where we are from, what are our interest and what are our threats and that help us to be and last in the world. Within our 6 mains regions of Africa we have to build cultural, social, ecomonic and political bridges to make us strong enough to don't dilute in the universal civilization and disappear. Diversity is the fertilizer for humanity.
Why is African identity so important to you? Tell us your thought.
How can one participate in future debates, DW?
Africa z black that's our identity
It's like giving me, as an African, an Authentication and Closure.
Is your show based in Kenya 🇰🇪?
Apart from Bien, Tetu and a few, this crowd seem clueless about this topic especially the human rights lawyer
I am african first before Caribbean 🙌🏿🇭🇹 long live mama Africa. Great interview
Yes my brother
I'm telling you.
But let me share that even the name "Carrib" is African. There was one group called the Karriba people which also has a group by Zambia borders called lake Karribi near the Tongas. They have a dirty called "Nyame Nyame" which Ganja is smoked through for an offering. Nyame is used in the Caribbean.
Bless our Bro and sis from Carribiean all black people to me all over the world are African
@@Melanin_Move Which part of the Caribbean are you from, I am Dominican Carib/Karib/Qarib (Of God) Kalinago. We originally came from East Africa to the Caribbean, not the lies European historians are peddling that we came down the Orinocco River of South America, that's fake!..
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What I like about Kenya is that they have Bantus, Nilotes, Kushitic and Afro-Semitic Africans (and obviously a mix of all that) all in one country.
To me African is Black.
You will find that this type of diversity is also common in other countries; All of the language families of Africa are spoken in Sudan, Nigeria includes Niger-Congo, Chadic(Afroasiatic), Arabic & Nilosaharan languages similar story for Cameroon.
such an intelligent conversation should get a larger viewership than what is now.
are we north africans invaders or indigenous?
@@valistrutu of you are arab ancestry you are invader
Am proud African, all we need is unity
Great to hear that @Chernoba Drammeh. Let's put our hands and heads together and unite. Do you have a suggestion on how?
@@DWThe77Percent first we need to decolonise our minds then we will able to see value in ourselves and things we do. Secondly we need a universal language which will allow us to communicate, long list, am from Gambia seeing this confirms believe of our hunger for each other as young Africans.
@ChernobaDrammeh #truth
@@chernobadrammeh881
Agree "Separate free from them"
The oppressors, colonisers Europeans,be completely free
Away from Them
Question is,is DW Africa a african
Production? it's difficult bcus they come to Africa in packs n droves and spend. What are they really Comng to do? They are the same pple from yesterday the slave masters their mind set, i have seen a white woman directing giving directions
In the background in other videos
@@DWThe77Percent yes visit Africa and get citizenship and invest in Africa our homeland
That train idea should definitely be considered. Europe has a system where you can get through all the countries. Africa should be connected so the continent can continue to grow, develop, trade and build commerce. As a Black American I can't say what should happen but I can say that I know it'll elevate the financial opportunities when Africa works more within. But that's just my opinion.
Just seeing this today. The questions, interviews, interviewees is so refreshing to listen to. As a black American, this conversation resonates so deeply. I hope to finally visit the continent early next year. Regardless of where we got dropped off on the slave trade route, at our core, we are African.
Wow, this is such a powerful subject, loved hearing all the different perspectives. Please do more videos on this subject. Greetings from Rwanda 🖤🇷🇼🇰🇪
Best curvy nation
@@joehouston2833 go to burundi, liberia and Uganda you will know what is curvy
Great discussion. Africa is in good hands with this generation! I just want to add that as an American African (to most an African American, but it’s all in one’s mindset and values) we share many of these same concerns voiced in this conversation. Just because my great, great, great got snatched away from Yorubaland and my wife’s ancestors from the Mende, Fula, Temne and Kpelle peoples ended up here and experienced countless horrors and, made amazing and sometimes detrimental adaptations to survive, doesn’t mean we don’t experience devaluation of our personhood and cultural contributions, as well as appropriation and commodification of our African culture. And although we number many diverse groups in the diaspora we are still working out and developing our collective African identity as well. Even with hundreds of years and thousands of miles separating us, we still have more in common than we do separating us concerning both our story and our collective interests. WE are the future and the future is NOW. Ashe’!
One things i admire about East African is there Women love their natural hair and embracing their authentic beauty. Take a look how many women there with Lock, compare to West African, women who always like wear fake Wig, and sweating in that hot African sun. To define our truth African identity. we must embrace everything African. From our Hair, Cloth, Food, Music. We must stand define our self, never allowed other to define our African for us.
So true even us african diaspora descended from west Africa behave the same
Bantze Hotep it’s an epidemic 400 years of abuse has really did a number on us there is a lot of work to do
I wonder how long it will take for the foreign cultures to co-opt the African hair industry and earn the millions $$ that Black women should be earning in the business (i.e. Koreans in U.S. are example)....
Eniola Apata I understand what you are saying but just because they wear extensions, weaves, wigs, you can’t ASSUME that they don’t embrace their natural hair, well, natural beauty overall. Most women just like how versatile it is to wear these things, allowing them to try different styles. Please don’t make it seem like West African women lack confidence. I’m a West African woman myself (Ghanaian) and I felt slightly offended. Pleas do not make that generalization.
@@DivineCreationsbyDorleneLLC I am must have use some, for not generalizing, all West African Women. I am sorry, if you feel offended. I am writing base on experience in my travelling to East Africa, Tanzania in particular, I was amazed with their love of their natural hair, and the same in Ruwanda, Burundi, Ugandan and Kenya.
This is my second time watching DW Africa THE 77 PERCENT and am loving it. Thank you DW.
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How are you doing
Everybody in the world is sensitive about their nationhood and their identity, not just Africans. I agree with Tetu Shani. African identity is tied in with our unique race and our history, so yes, it is exclusive. We have all noticed that most Africans welcome people from other backgrounds into Africa more than other people welcome Africans into their societies. They know not to be too emotional at accepting people. They are more cautious because they like their societies the way that they are. Africans on the other hand, can be over-generous, especially to people from other racial backgrounds and they are almost grateful that people want to come and live in Africa. The reason is - we haven't quite overcome our inferiority complex.
I think the young are waking up. I think Africans can be generally naive about how evil, exploitative and racist. The moment they travel their eyes are opened. Thanks to the internet even those without travel are starting to realize that they need to protect, build the continent and be proud of their identity.
Very insightful conversation. Very important one to have. Left me with a few questions to ask myself.
*We are more woke in our *Minds* than we do in our *Actions.* 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Again, when I listen to Africans speak, there is a sense of feet on the ground and a strong foundation of things. These folks get it. These voices need places of influence. Because, all the ingredients are there except for perhaps fighting off the foot that is stepping on their/our culture.
I am proud to be African we all know we are the root of Human being. God bless Africa 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🖤🖤🖤🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🥰🥰🥰
True let them teach that in schools!
@@Moneyman077 they'll say england is lol
😊🥰🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷👍💐yes
Music is a huge capital. As an African American, I heard of Nigeria music since the early 90s. But, when South Africa dropped House Music in the mid 2000s, BLACK COFFEE!!! WHEW!!! I'm from Chicago. House Music is considered heritage music since the 1980s. The music of South Africa makes me want to travel there.
@@amaradumbuya2099 stop with the disinformation
South Africa host millions of African migrants than any country in Africa, and gues what we didn't put them in refugee camps like many countries do, but we incorporated them into communities.
Illegal immigrants is however the problem as we have influx, of Indians, Pakistanis, polish, malays, chechslovakians, etc
Da Fam Immediate you haven't heard anything yet, like there's a new house genre coming out every year or two
Come I promise you won't regret
There is a unified aspect of African culture, it is the DRUM and DANCE!... No matter what language you speak in Africa and in the African Diaspora, the DRUM and DANCE is King and Queen, so much so that other cultures have appropriated it. It is connected to the heart!..
I agree. I don't speak any Angolan languages or Portuguese but I love their music...!!!
As Somalis We Dont Have Drum And Dance Thing
@@buthlezi3405 Me too, I love my Kizomba and Semba.
@@beanladen5726 Is that since Somalis had to embrace Islam like the Sudanese? Before Islam, what were your ancestors doing?
@@thelinkagency1 Somalis Are Way Older Than Your Own Arab Masters . you Dimwit Ashole .
'We are more woke in our mindsets than in our actions'. Very true. The reason why our actions are substandard is because a huge percentage of Africans are still within level 1 0r 2 of Maslows hierarchy of needs. We need to satisfy the basic needs first because we can move on to other things. No community can prosper in the midst of hunger, insecurity and illness.
It begins in the mind before it manifests in reality. Give it some time. We are beginning to rise to the occasion. I agree with the maslows hierarchy comment but this is why we must rely upon one another for our needs because we are currently subjected to other nations and if they decide we should eat. Some of us eat well... those of us who do must help those of us who do not.
Thats right join our group on facebook called AFRISEM and lets discuss aout african socio-economic issues.
"I am African not because i am born in Africa,but because Africa is born in me" Kwame Nkrumah
It is important to learn about where my family originated, and be proud of who I am. That's why African identity is important!
I am African first living in Jamaica 🇯🇲..
Came for Edith Kimani's exceptional intelligence and beauty (my heart!), and stayed for the conversation. For me, the importance of African Identity is to evolve "Africaness" from geographic to spiritual, mental, and emotional. the past of Africa continues to taint africa's present. Modern African is to begin a new evolution away from the trapping of the white mind. It is to think afrocentric, to forward one's capacity in new ways that take the best of the modern (technology) and the best of the past (ancestral connections, humility and respect for the land) to create a new modern african mind.
el scientifico please watch 8 videos of Jim Nduruchi
I would have loved too hear the group's opinions on the diaspora and our African-ness but this was a great conversation.
it's interesting subject and as far as i know there has been a lot written about.
i had some conversations about that over the years (and i'm an european white guy so i don't even know much about about afro-american "africanism"(?) but i think the general opinion is, that this is some sort of naive romanticism... i mean africans are also more aware about idi amin, mubutu, papa doc.. very distructive forms of radical traditionalism .. and also they think that "traditional african medicin"... is just quakery
That Lady is a really good mediator... jesus, probably one of the best i've seen... she needs a promotion asap
kimathi kaumbutho yeah she is indeed a really good host
kimathi kaumbutho I totally agree. Very fluent. Kept the panelists on point but still aloud for free expression. Thank you.
I agree... I was so impressed with her.
She is superb. I agree. I'm impressed by her skills.
Humanity, authenticity, community and dignity. That's a true African.
So happy young Africans having this kind of conversation with each other!! It's time for Africa !
I'm so Proud to be an African right now. Thanks for the interview.
It is skin colour. For too long we have suffered because of our skin colour. So now that African are rising, we want to keep our identity, you need the colour.
More than skin color. It's hair texture and features too. Indians have the same range of skin color but some believe due to their hair texture and features they are a bit above us. White racists divide Horner Africans from other black Africans based on their hair texture. Belgians divided Tutsi and Hutu based on their nose and head shapes. It is a very toxic mind that does things like that. And one we must recognize as toxic and love ourselves in our diverse forms.
Benjamin Smith
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@@benjaminsmith2287 Yesss!!!! 🙌🏾
@@benjaminsmith2287 Being African is not just about skin color. Here in East Africa (Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Rwanda, Tanzania, Burundi, Sudan) we have so many people who are not black. Many of them are Asians originally from India and Sri Lanka, many of them are Arabs originally from Oman, Yemen and North Africa and their families have been in Africa for hundreds of years and in Kenya Indians are even now officially recognized as the 44th tribe of Kenya. These people still respect their ethnic heritage (as all ethnic groups in Africa do), but they also call Africa home. They sound like Africans, dance like Africans and they invest in Africa and hold leadership roles.
Africans have never always been black, and will never always be black. Being African is about culture and spirit, not outward appearance.
@RODDY RICH WIFE At a certain point immigrants become native even if they aren't indigenous. Speaking only of my country, Kenya, in Mombasa there are people who are clearly of Arab descent but who have been there since the Middle Ages and don't know anything about Yemen or Oman where their ancestors came from. They're fully accepted as Kenyans, just of a different ethnic group than the majority of the country. If them being in Africa for over 1000 years is not enough to make them African then what is? You can see that even one guy in the street debate mentioned Indians and people from the coast being considered African because of how long they've been there.
Trust me on this one, learn from the problems in the West, that trying to decide who is and isn't African based PURELY on race is going to create significant problems for our descendants when Africa attracts more and more immigrants in this century.
As a total outsider I love that there are more and more of these voices from young intelligent Africans to be heard. It changes the percetpion of these places so much!
I like how you are doing your videos, and also the group of people that are involved. So unique
African identity will be upgraded when african governments jointly form a global media of their own to propagate african ideaologies(fashion, culture, music, language, food and tourist destinations)to the world
@Manie Tempah. Thanks for joing this debate. Why is it important to you?
@@DWThe77Percent because media is power of the brain , (brain washing)
@@jamaica5308 What about yourself, as an individual. Is there anything you can do to push our Africa identity forward?
@@DWThe77Percent nothing i can do about in action because everything needs money,may be as a politician someday
Ohh you are thinking of becoming a change maker as a politician?
the lady with the long locks and pink shirt is giving me whoopi vibes
I was about writing this!
She looks so much like her.
I was looking for this comment. She looks just like her!
18:04 This interview is good and such a young age. I look forward to hearing much more from her. Proud of this kenyan sister. 🇰🇪.🇳🇬 salutes
Great discussions. Keep the videos going. Africans connection is power.
I am an African first I was born in the United States. My for Father's were brought here through slavery. My Homeland will forever be Africa. And I plan to return to my homeland, the place where my for Father's longed to be.
U are akata
@@okonkwodavid644 I'm African American
So you love to refer to us as Akata? Why?
@@dcwashingtonpresident5938 because u aren't African🥺 and akata bully African kids including me and they disrespected the fufu NIGERIA food so f akata
@@dcwashingtonpresident5938 African American is a newly made up identity.find out who your people are you are American stop begging for acceptance from Another landmass because fake history told you so.This individual obviously don't respect us always is a derogatory word along side the N word
Ur not African u are American
Dont let urself be whitewashed.....melanin is good its healthy foo foo is fantastic food....dont become butter biscuits.
Noooo not the butter biscuits! you a fool! lol.
Don't become butter biscuits
@@TheGreatOne93 what’s wrong with butter biscuits? Very tasty actually
The human tends to tend towards what he perceives an end. In this persepctive, African identity becomes so important to many young Africans, probably because it is where they find an end in forms of sense, since they feel that they environments they are in do not give them keys of belonging. Thus, as a reaction the phenomenon of identity withdrawal, with Africa as a receptacle. As regards, young Africans of African diaspora. As regards young Africans on Africa continent and especially the so-called Sub-Saharan Africa, the identity withdrawal is a manifestation against colonial heritages, perceived as a denial African identity.
Beautiful dark skin girl with dreads
I know right😍
It should not matter where you were born or whether or not you live in Africa. You can be African elsewhere. The rest of the world will tell you very quickly who you are no matter where you are especially when it comes to how you are treated by non-African or non-African diaspora descendants. We are ALL Africans and we need to come together because across the world we are all treated badly no matter where we live and have many false narratives put out about us. We have many of the same struggles such as people stealing our ideas and taking credit for things they did not come up with first. Come together as one!
All black people are African
Yes matter Africa only black people not Indian not white
Ur soo brainwashed it’s hilarious people get treated Bad everywhere where ever they are from. White people are treated bad here in the us. Ur living in a victimhood complex that doesn’t exists If u guys were soo United. I say Uganda. Kenya. Drc should all unite as one let’s see how that plays out. Hint. It will fail. Just like if Germany and uk were to unite
I HAVE NEVER HEARD A SO CALLED LAWYER SO SHALLOW. THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO BIND US TOGETHER AS AFRICANS IS OUR COLOUR.
NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. LIKE PETER TOSH (THE LATE GREAT) SAID "DON'T REALLY CARE WHERE YOU COME FROM AS FAR AS YOU ARE A BLACK MAN/WOMAN YOU'RE AN AFRICAN" .
Afro American, Afro Caribbean people needs to unite and visit the continent.
The media portrayed Africa as the worse place to visit or take holidays.
Then if we build our own aeroplanes to take us from America to Africa to the Caribbean. Then we need to pray against the adversaries who will try to shoot down our aeroplanes.
Africans would need to have our own aeroplanes circle in the sky route.
Africans needs our own identity and we do have our own identity as long as we refused to copy the western world.
Afro American, Afro Caribbean and Africans must unite and stamped out corruptions.
UNITED CONTINENTS OF AFRICA and AFRICANS using ONE CURRENCY exchange rate. ONE LOVE. One common language and common sense.
Edith,pls it would do us Africans more good to discuss African related discussions in native languages,and subtitled or translated for others who can't understand to really join the conversation. Discussions of our identity MUST be done in our native languages
This is so so good and enlightening .Love it
I appreciate such discussions. It's good to enlighten people around us. We learn while sharing thoughts and ideas.
The presenter is very very good. Smart, articulate & not afraid to ask difficult questions. She has a big future
Can we have more or these conversations. These people are so positive
" If you are a black man, you are an African " Song by a Jamaican singer and songwriter.
Black people are Africans.
Africans are black people.
Afro Americans, Afro Caribbean people are Africans.
exactly 💯
I am A proud AFRICAN!!!
Bravo, bravo, bravo! This video should have millions of views. Such an enlightening, deep, and thoughtful conversation. I have great hopes for the rise of the young intelligentsia in Africa to take over and build a vision for a modern African identity in their respective countries and regions.
Deuteronomy 28:1-2
[1]And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:
[2]And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.
We thank the DW Africa for bringing this African identity program to light for an individual contributions..my simple opinion about this is that Africans as already carrying there identity with them since when they were born to this world and wherever they were born our chocolate and black colour is unique.. At the same time.. more than enough for our identification wherever we are in this world.. What we needed to do more is to unite and strengthen our Bond it in the eyes of the world.
exactly 💯 my DNA PROVES THAT..IM GOING TO INVEST IN MY HOMELAND..I DON'T CARE WHAT OR WHO ACCEPTS ME. IM AFRICAN JUST HAPPENED TO BE BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL
DW IS A PROPAGANDA AND A WESTERN BS USDING A BLACK WOMAN TO DESTROY AFRICAN CULTURE PUSHING THE RAINBOW FEMINIST AND LESBIAN GAY AGENDA, SHE IS FULL OF BS AND PUSHING GLOBALISM, WE DONT NEED COLONIZATION NOR WESTERNAZATION,
This was a such a stimulating and well moderated discussion .Well done !
R&B and Hip Hop is African music. It's music created by the children of Africa. It is the African spirit that's in action within the music that makes it great. African-American accomplishments and contributions ARE African contributions because we too are the CHILDREN OF MOTHER AFRICA. We ARE African, we have her in our spirit (if we all recognize it or not), we have in our skin, we still speak her language (within the English) and we share in her experience of oppression and exploitation.
Still my question will remain. What makes an African, African?
First time i have heard any African talk with knowledge. Brother Kamal the sister who hosts this show works with white German people our enemy she cant even set up her own channel without white mas help disgusting
we are different. Black Americans and Africans are not the same. Our accomplishment don’t have anything to do with Africa.
@@DWThe77Percent YOUR RACE jesus christ whats wrong with people! Are you a NEGROID? Are you black race? Yes? Then you african. What the hell is so complicated?
@@babyhousewifee what the hell are you talking about? You wouldnt have accomplished anything without africa because its where your physical bodies come from! Africans need to become more race conscious and less tribal. Pan africanism has it RIGHT ideologically speaking. Stop fronting like we dont have the answers
African identity is important to me as a way to assert the presence of African ideas into international debate. Our opinions and narratives have been excluded for a long time but now, more than ever, particularly with the youth, we are asserting our place in the world.
From 7 minutes and 25 seconds into the video to 8 minutes and 53 seconds into the video that man was 100 percent right on point.
African identity should be come much stronger and more pronounced as time moves onwards....
Language is not an excuse for lack of integration in Africa. The European Union is a mosaic of languages (i.e. French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, etc.,) but has managed to integrate. In fact, our diverse languages is our strength and what defines us as people. Integration has the potential to bring us together to appreciate each other, share ideas, and improve socio-economic outcomes.
I'm a little late to the party...I know this video is a year old but I thoroughly enjoyed it! The DW host is excellent!😘
I stand with the sister in pink tshirt and dreadlocks all day every day!
Man, was she wise.
Me too👏👏
African American and great interview!
Being yourself is a 'birthright' and wherever you are it will always be YOU.Embrace all what you have been given then your developement as a Person will Open your Full Potential.
Exactly 100%.
Before we talk about our continent we should accept each other. I am from Eritrean proud to be an African. We should accept our personality. Our origin,geography location, culture, history , morality.... that diversity makes us pleasing the senses (mind aesthetically).
I think what you're describing is a black identity vs an African one. Indeed there is a Black identity that we should be proud of and hold to.
Africans and African Americans are the same people and that's the problem with this conversation. To say that Africans wait on African Americans is an oxymoron
Loving the dialogue from California, USA.. a thought is continued colonization and neo-colonialism there will be an ongoing need for embracing the identity of Africanization in reflection of white supremacy and racism that are protested by that colonialism.
Love seeing Tuku in the background 🔥🇿🇼🇿🇼
Really, Africa is the youngest continent? How? That's a gaffe. Africa is the motherland of mankind; it's not the youngest continent.
Africa is the continent with the youngest population in respect to age demographics NOT historically
It is because Africa is a new name not the ancient name if the original people of land
Jemimah, blessings flow. The young AFRICAN only knows the Colonial teachings and the Colonials themselves, and the young AFRICAN feels it is okay, so much so that, they are placing themselves as johnny come lately. ""Education is the key for betterment, in this modern time, this modern time, education is the key for betterment, don't waste your time"" (Warrior King)
@@charlesgrant7300 Sorry, Africa is not a new name either. The name Africa has been existence a long time ago, such that no one is exactly sure when the name came into existence. A school of thought think the name Africa was coined by the Romans.
The name Africa was certainly in existence before Europe. Europe was named as a continent in 1824.
Jemimah Shekinah-Shalom interesting thanks for that.
After listening to the program I am shocked that Africans on this program do not feel the pride of being Africans. The white man has done a job not just on Africans in the west but those from Africa to distance themselves from Africa.
Racist towards white people? So obvious…
But you get annoyed when others do the same to you right? Hypocrisy
This is uplifting conversation and too encouraging, as Africans we need to have the sharping sense of reason that will not move as in the order of created beings.
Language is a primary marker of identity.
Brilliant Discussion, Facilitator : A1👏👏👏
Nani ameona whoopi goldberg look alike 😀?
Yes, but a better looking version of Whoopi.
I was thinking the same thing. She does.
Language is so important because a nation is not a nation without a language and culture. One nation needs one language and one culture.
R&B, Rap, and Rock were all started by African-Americans and not by European Americans. So, at the 10 minute mark, the African lady says Africans are culture vulture because they have been influenced by R&B from the West. So, is she saying African-Americans are not African? or do Africans just not know that African-Americans created all of the American musical styles except may be country although even country is heavily influenced by African-American musical forms such as blues, R&B, etc.
Love the street vibes, am watching from the Caribbean islands St. Kitts and Nevis. I reach out to lots of youths in Nigeria, Ghana, Uganda to name a few on social media about the late President John Mugafuli & they don't even knew of him sadly.
Yeah our love to you from Kenya
West africans do not know much about other countries
This group is amazing at speaking and delivering their message.
Im shocked some Kenyans can speak of embracing African identity, when mostly they are the ones who are quick to deny their African heritage in favour of western lifestyle.
A lot of kenyans are proud of their African heritage stop generalization.
As a Kenyan that's very true! Some Kenyans pride so much in not being able to speak their mother tongues. We think it's classy!We measure intelligence on how well one can speak English. In fact you will find the current generation of parents talk to their kids in English and some even choose not to give them Kenyan tribal names. A sad trend I have noted.Tribalism has also made it worse since most Kenyans believe that if we dnt speak mother tongues its a way of ending tribalism. Yes we have Swahili as our national language but we have neglected our mother tongues. We lack tolerance and are ashamed when it comes to speaking our mother tongues. I remember we used to be punished in high school if one spoke in mother tongue. The whole school would know that you spoke mother tongue by wearing a MOTTO on your neck. It was until I left high school I realised how brainwashed we are as a people and more as Africans. We have no pride in our culture at all. Sometimes I would talk to someone who comes from my own ethnic group in mother tongue and they refuse to respond in it because they are either ashamed or think its backwards. I am glad I learnt my mother tongue in school in the 90s and my parents have always spoken to me in my mother tongue which I can proudly speak and write. I will make sure I teach my kids my language. Swahili and other languages they will learn in school.
@@soupgod1448 You know there are those who are but most of us are not. Even patrotism we hardly have that. Look at our local tvs. I have lived in South Africa and I cant tell you there are very few times I saw anything from Kenya on tv or from other countries. South Africans may have their cons but they are proud of their country and culture.
@@LolaBugzy85 well that's true also I've realized that
I agree with you in everything but you have to realize some people don't know how to communicate in their native languages because they grew up in urban areas
Me for instance I dunno how to speak my native language because I was raised allover the world we kept moving so dont confuse no knowledge of mother tongue with being a sell out
I've met so many people who are stunt pan africanists but dunno their native languages
@@soupgod1448 Sweetheart did I mention anything to do with being a sell out. I simply said SOME Kenyans find it so cool and very unclassy to speak their mother tongue and are perpetuating the narrative by encouraging the same with their kids.
Great debate, very proud of these africans, i am coming back from The Netherlands to rebuild the continent. I am going to bring everything I have! After 20 years The west made me sick!
Are u Nigerian
Love it. Great stuff.
I am listening to the diversity of options and asking myself how can I as a Jamaican American citizen merge with my African heritage?
@Mark bROWN Yes indeed with citizenship for both. Great previledge for my children. And blessed with 84% West Àfrican.
I'M AFRICAN AND VERY PROUD
Am proud to be African. Wake up Africa
I love you so much my African family ❤️
As long as you're a black man you're an African, so because we were sold by African into slavery we are no more African here in the diaspora? As a Jamaican I'm so disappointed hearing this madness. Only if African seen me as an African I'm not, sad.
@faith umuk what? Construct your sentence so I can understand it.
@@Joejourney.5073 As an African myself we do consider African diaspora as Africans ,the problems comes when the African diaspora dont consider themselves Africans or see themselves as less African that is something I've seen in the US and Europe, the Caribbeans generally have a stronger African identity. I hope we do get together as black people of African descent and improve our situation
I’m sorry, but thinking we Africans should consider you Africans is entitlement. To the point where African Americans wanting to live in Africa are demanding citizenship. What have you guys contribute to the country? Have you ever felt compassion when you see the mistreatment of any African? The truth is Caribbeans and African Americans have discriminated against us Africans for years. Even till this day. I believe you should educate yourselves and stop demanding we recognise you as one of us because the mentality, and resentment you all still have is not one we Africans care for or tolerate.
@@elehoaku7541 I see no problem with African Americans wanting to live in Africa and citizenship, as long as their ❤️ is in Africa, that's all that matters. Personally I haven't been discriminated against by either the Carribeans nor African Americans, so I can't speak on that matter. Most folks of those background that I met have been very nice and welcoming, felt like I was talking to an African of another country.
@Sh Sh
Thank you your words are appreciated I have Caribbean roots.
There seems to be confusion here. There's a difference between being an African Citizen & African Culture.
Some of their responses were speaking towards being an African Citizen. Yet most seemed to be referencing embodying African cultures and traditions.
You guys all spoke well
No matter where you come from as long as you are a black man , you are an African
We have so much division with in each African countries As whole African to be identified as one we have along way to go. As i say internal division with in each countries need to be solved first.
Just discovered this.... Amazing stuff.
Proudly African...
There's a collective African sound, i love it.
Kwame Nkuruma - We are not born in Africa, Africa is born in us
Amazing discussion
One African Passeport and one ID number shared is tangible representation of our identity.
African identity is important because we have to know who we are , where we are from, what are our interest and what are our threats and that help us to be and last in the world.
Within our 6 mains regions of Africa we have to build cultural, social, ecomonic and political bridges to make us strong enough to don't dilute in the universal civilization and disappear. Diversity is the fertilizer for humanity.
Looking good, looking good, LOOKING GOD. We spoke alike also…I thought this conversation was happening here in SA , perfect a mix of us etc
@DWThe77Percent when are we going to see you in Ghana 🇬🇭, the Gateway to Africa ❤️🔥
Beware of culture vultures.....
what an amazing host
I like the debate, thanks dia
Best conversation ever. Thank you.
Enlightening discussion.