Thanks for watching this! It's a simple project, and kinda irrelevant in the grand scheme of CAMARO.... It's a detail that makes me happy to have done, and was an easy one to pass in. The perception of a quality build is made up of a thousand details..... this is number 5. PS, here's a little Google-history on "crumple-zones" on 70's GM cars...... "The second generation Chevrolet Camaro, produced from 1970 to 1981, did not have dedicated crumple zones as modern safety standards define them; this was because crumple zone technology was not widely implemented in cars during that era, making them significantly less safe in frontal collisions compared to newer vehicles.". So.... There is no crumple-zone in the firewall... it's just an ugly stamping. 😉
I watch pretty regular. It’s a confidential VIN. Confidential for a reason. To keep thieves at bay. Please stop telling people where the VIN#’s are located. It makes recovering stolen vehicles almost impossible, if the VIN’s are removed.
@@davidhanks3371The location of the confidential VINs has been published in countless magazine articles and restoration guides. Kevin isn’t giving away any secrets here.
@davidhanks3371 google vin locations on 1971 camaro and there will be a list of locations. If someone watched his videos with the intent of finding the vin locations they're wasting time lol
Do we really think, in today's world, thieves aren't aware of these "confidential VINs"? I was more fascinated to learn that they existed to prove originality than worrying about theft and recovery.
Dude you can make a 5 hour long video and i would watch it all the way threw , dont listen to those peple talking about having fast forward , i learn so mutch from your videos 😀
VGG last night, Derek was showing what needs to be done to Independence and couldn’t stop thinking, that’s exactly what Kevin is doing to your old Camaro.
We should be thanking you is for making a videos for so many years from television to RUclips your share your personal experiences on what to do and what not to do when it comes to painting cars and fixing cars in general I just been watching you since I was just a kid
Great video! I'm enjoying watching the camaro come together. Never seen an in dept video on a car on a rotisserie, can't wait for that! Keep up the great work, Kevin!
For irregular cuts like that I like using a jigsaw with a fine tooth metal cutting blade and cut it about 1/8” oversized. Then I come back and cut it to final size with the tinsnips. It’s way easier to cut it with tinsnips when they’re only cutting off a tiny amount of metal vs the whole sheet because the snips can easily curl the thin strip of metal out of the way. Plus it keeps the remaining edge of the big sheet from getting all wavy.
I am absolutely digging this build, I have a completely rust free 79 that I would love to convert but I just don't have the heart to cut it up.. I wouldn't worry about not having power windows as we both know the regulators are junk in all honesty(iykyk)...and again candy green over gold flake wold put this one over the top..lol ..thanks for the video Kevin..much appreciated.
@paintucation - Hey Kevin, I 100% agree that the firewall look ugly right there. However GM built those wrinkles into the firewall for a reason. they were there to keep the flat panels from beer canning and making noise and to add some tension to the firewall tunnel in that area. I like your solution better, but I would have put some smaller bead rolls in it to stiffen it up a little. also, whoever put that break master cylinder did it wrong, in order of assembly, it was Booster, master cylinder, and then the bracket for the proportioning valve, that how it got crap down behind the master cylinder and rusted. also, at 12:58 in the video, you can see the original neutral safety switch from the factory. your looks to be completely intact. to the best of my knowledge, no one reproduces it. so hang on to it, you may need it. It snaps over a plastic peg and plastic slider clips to the clutch pedal. it also gives you a really good shot of the rubber seal that goes around the clutch rod that connects to the clutch Z-bar. this car is making huge process and i am loving the build.
So, this is so cool! I'll definitely hang onto the safety switch... and thank you for acknowledging that my car was a standard shift.... I know it, but I've had alot of pushback on what I've found... You sir, are a wealth of knowledge! and I really appreciate it!!! I want to learn all i can about this car as I morph it into my dream-car. Thanks man!!!
Awesome Kevin! I’m doing a 76 Trans Am so your video is timely. Doing door skins, mini tubs, shaving parking lights, and shaving firewall. However, 18g pre-cut firewall metal is readily available now for a good price online. It saves a lot of time that way and covers a lot more area. Cheers.
I grew up watching you on the speed channel and help build some awesome cars then we didn’t have cable after I hit 14 and I started watching car content on RUclips and then low and behold you start your own channel I’m learning alot myself I’m starting to save money to get my own project to build a little a time it will take a few years but im just gonna go ahead a do it with what I have and thanks for the longer videos I enjoy watching this builds on of my favorite ones on RUclips right now
You said something about the "logarithm" requiring hour long videos. Not sure what that means but I will watch your stuff no matter what, I enjoy your style of teaching / presenting and talking thru the why reasons as you go. Your knowledge is going to benefit generations because of this format, thank you again for the tremendous amount of time and effort you are putting into these postings.
The videos are the length that they are because the project tells me how long it needs to be. I don't have an agenda going into doing any kind of a RUclips episode, it comes out the other end like I think it needs to be. Thanks for watching, I hope these videos benefit some people! I'm happy to put out the information, and I'm having fun doing it. :-) thanks for watching my friend.
I’m really grateful for what you are showing us and teaching us along the way of how to do things properly! Don’t let criticizing comments let you down or rethink what you are doing. Please keep on doing what you are doing and keep on sharing the knowledge to us with this amazing platform 🙌🏻 Can’t wait to see Rotisserie (Sorry if I mis-spelled it) P.S. Loved your fast forwarding Disclaimer 😂
Paintucation... Nice work as always Kevin. I like those Milwaukee sanders, been thinking about getting them and their new M12 1/2 and 3/8 impacts. Every time I think about getting them they are out of stock or on backorder..
Great idea to show the back of the panel during welding, not something anyone typically gets to see. This is what I call a "but I'll know" project. 99 people out of 100 won't notice, but things like this make me feel better for myself when I'm done. Thank you as always sir, have a great week ~ Chuck
Hiya Kevin! Take it from an old sheet metal journeyman, use those snips for trimming and get a set of mid west offset snips when cutting into flat stock. You won’t get that can opener effect, and your cuts will be faster and smoother. In addition, get a deburring tool for the cutting wheel burr. You can find them in the plumber section of those home building stores. Hope that helps you on your journey.
It's so good to see such attention brought to these 70-73 (designed) F-Bodies. I fell in love with them in, well, 1970 when I was in college. Bought my 1st 71 in 74 as a college graduation gift to myself, and have had them ever since, maybe a dozen or so over the years. Built them, raced them,, fabricated speed parts back in the day that weren't yet available (with Adams and Gulstrand as the suspension gurus for guidance). I never met an F-Body I didn't love. Thank you Kevin for what you're doing. I'm way older than you, but kinda feel a unique brotherhood with your interests paralleling mine. I love it when you young guys are into this stuff.
Hey Johnnie, these cars were the holy grail when I was a teenager... I loved the early second Gens.... my Brothers best friend Mike had a White 73 that was legendary! On my previous (78 Z28) car I did several "Adams" mods on the rear springs, and that car handled great!!! It was cool to dig into the history and learn tht we all need to thank Herb Adams!!! Building this car is like having a dream unfold in real-time and it's a privilege to build it on RUclips!! there's many guys like you that are also willing to share your knowledge with me, making me richer for it. Thank you!!! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Be well! KT ( PS, I can't help but think your handle is an early Brady Bunch reference.... am I on the mark? }
@@paintucationwas my favorite also love that split bumper and snorkel scoops. 69's most people's favorite but i think these models look much better... Great videos like how you show everything lot better to learn with. Keepemcoming
Speaking as someone who did years of tin bashing, You my man would benefit greatly with using offset or crescent shears. Same manufacturer just a wider bottom shear. Less need to peel back the cut off because it is supported by the bottom shear & you can walk your snips through the sheet while never completely closing them to the tip.
Love those belt sanders. Back in the day lots of my edge finishing was done with my Belt Sander. If I wanted really fine I would use my Warding Second Cut hand file..
On my '79 Formula there is a VIN just below the bottom lip of the a/c opening. I had to smooth the firewall because the previous owner installed a dual remote oil filter and fastened it with 2 bolts through the firewall into the rain gutter. When I removed the a/c box I found a wall of rusted out steel that was pretty thin to begin with.
I don't blame General Motors for that Non- Flat panel section (while being in production) that's for YOU to flatten to personal taste, a Quote from my Dad: " does that make the car run?" Translation: he was not much for esthetics!! Lol! That's a Way cool idea though KT, GM was like most manufacturers of the era, YUGE Components ie., HVAC systems etc. these days most vehicles are overladen with Electronics and Harness routing. I'm sure you'll have that Camaro Clean Sheet Crisp upon completion. Looks Great so far. No go on GIT! her on the rotisserie! And bring it back to a Solid State.
Nice thing about a big 455 Pontiac with a shaker scoop in a 70s Fbody is that it completely hides the firewall😉👍 I dont even see my wrinkles😅😂🤣 Wow I have been getting behind in these videos....between the holidays the flu and taking care of family stuff....cant wait to get back to an easy saturday watching the progress in this car...hope to get back to it soon
Man I really enjoy watching the channel . Motivation to me to get back at my project, because we can build them in our garages. And they can be what we want not what anyone else wants. 💪💪
@@d-train8033 absolutely!!!! I'm building this car for ME!!! It's such a freeing process to get creative and invent a vehicle, meanwhile saving one from the shredder along the way. Thanks for watching!
@paintucation thank you for letting us all be apart of watching you step by step I have a 75 Buick century GS that I am building I just bought a t-top roof out of a 76 Grand Prix that I'm going to install they never made one they did make a regal never a century. So watching you build that Camaro to what you want it to be is just inspiration and motivation thank you very much
Kevin, not to endorse anyone but on this particular project has AMD been the best choice? I have no idea what options are even out there 2. Open the box, what if there is a dent? Or the wrong part? Thank you Kevin. Great show. This has been an amazing project.
So, what I've found is that once you choose a "Brand" (based on what you expect ... Higher prices usually translate to a better quality). Then it comes down to customer service... What are the return policies? Return shipping charges? Availability and response of the reseller, and also the quality of the packaging/crating of the parts. I've never been disappointed by AMD on any of these points... It's really up to the consumer to research these things and see what recourse you have after the purchase.... Not all aftermarket parts are made by the same company!!! It's a complex network of offshore manufacturers and they have very different standards most times.... AMD chooses very carefully, and it shows. I'm not saying there's nobody else that has good quality products and after care when it comes to shipping and returns, but since you're asking specifically about amd, I've had nothing but a positive experience with not only their parts, but also as a brand ambassador, understanding what goes behind the R&d and development as well as manufacture, shipment, customer service, and marketing.
On my 73 F'bird, I made a forming die to intensify those ribs. Also added another rib along the top. Got real nice definition and eliminated an oil can that I had. I'm also going with vintage air system so I cut out that whole area of the firewall and flush welded a ribbed patch in that area. Worked out slick!! I wish I could send you pics but don't know how to attach pics here.
Nice work Kevin I did something similar to a 944 firewall. It was still a bit crumpled after the front clip install. I used kitty hair and bondo, pretty hack but to be fair I worked in the paint department.
After working with Eastwood, I'm surprised you don't use any of their products. (welder, etc.) Also, those factory wrinkles add more rigidity than a flat panel alone. Although, I'm sure you know that. To each his own.
well dunno if you noticed you got the boot for the clutch rod going out the firewall! also your brake pedal switch stop is for a manual transmission, (because mine for an auto transmission is different) and the presence of the clutch safety start switch, and you got the rubber bumper stop for the clutch pedal.. (out of stock at firebird central) but yep more signs of a standard transmission car! crazy how we used to convert these cars back in the day... the owner got old and too lazy to shift it anymore LOL! GOOD STUFF!
@@paintucationgoes without saying NEVER THROW ANYTHING AWAY ive had issues with every single replacement part ive installed so far. real close to a running driving stopping car (we are sorta doing it backwards, started on rotisserie and did the floor and under paint, going for a assembled drivetrain lastly body paint then interior)my brake light switch doesnt line up correctly, have no idea about clutch start guess im gonna delete it... we cannot get an assembly manual for a 79 pontiac firebird so im somewhat lost on what part is where.... you can however get one for a camaro... the tang that bolts to the brake pedal for the brake switch is diffrent than ours for an auto, anyway a frustrating problem i havnt solved yet, but we got to have brake lights very important! (i installed the brake booster and the brake switch shot into the backseat)
OOOh...cutting out that patch made me hurt. LOL As someone else has said, rough cut the patch 1/8 to 1/4" over size then come back and trim with the snips. But I understand. You're using what you have on hand (because: "the other shop." lol) to get the job done and you did. That's what matters. For everyone reading: Ron Covell and Lazze (Kevin, I KNOW you know who they are) have some videos demonstrating the use of "aviation snips" and other metal working tips. I admit, Derek has spoiled me on long videos. The "shorts" now are just long enough to make me mad. LOL Have a good one!
Sheet metal nibbler would be great for cutting out that panel. I just fisinshed doing the pasenger side floor pan, have to do a partial on the drivers side. Then the cowl dash panel. The rust repair Im not feeling is the windshield channel. Past booty fab by PO, filled the rust holes there with bondo, and then glued the windshield in. I ended up finding this when I removed the windshield to replace the cowl panel. It was supposed to ba a "rust free" car with a good paint job. Not even close!! Im sure I'll find more suprises as I go.....
Ahhh yes, the all elusive sheild on the cutoff grinder... I've heard of those but have never seen one other than the advertisement or the first time out of the box 😂 I bet I have a dozen of them in the top of my toolbox from various grinders over the years that have been long gone
I’m really interested to see how good those cutters work out. I keep buying everything Milwaukee just to make the battery cost make sense but it bled into hand tool purchases too
When you get ready to put your brake system back together look up the Bosch electric I-booster to replace your vacuum boosted brakes. Pretty cool bit technology. I’ve got it on my car and it’s seriously impressive. Great stopping power, cleaner than hydroboost and no worries about engine Vacuum since it’s an electromechanical brake assist. CPP and retrofit innovations make plug and play kits.
Try pulling a booster on a 3rd or 4th gen, you’ll appreciate being able to do it standing up on a 2nd gen. There was a wavy (spring) washer behind the clip on the brake pedal rod, you’ll want that or it’ll rattle like mad. Those Milwaukee screwdrivers are excellent quality. I’ve been using them professionally for almost a year with little degradation of grip. Excellent for very little money.
KOOL BRO! (Holding the floor down lol. = ) For those young ones, Ray Charles was Blind as a bat. . However talented at music, not with cars lol. OH HEY We never get to see what you do with all the Bolts and nuts etc that you keep to re-use. Can you show that? =. ).
Those plastic clips try soaking them in mineral oil I have had pretty good luck keeping them from breaking because it seems to make them softer and not so brittle. Just a trick an old timer gave to me back in the late 80’s.
I don't know what engine you are planning for this project but a nice little recess in the firewall would have been easy to do while you were doing this for more clearance let's say for LS fuel lines or a small-big block HEI type distributor.
Another complete video on how to do a patch, but I gladly watched every minute of it! Just one question: were those two "obnoxious ripples" you removed caused by damage or were they factory? I think I would have left them if they weren't hurting anything. (They might even have been useful stiffeners!)
@@paintucation - Go back a few years to where he's doing a truck box side (been a while, but I think he was deleting the gas flap). He goes into really great detail.
I figured out a long time ago that it’s safer to use a dull straight razor blade to cut my templates from cardboard than to use my wife’s good kitchen sheers lol!
You know a second gen convertible never happened because of the unibody. BUT with some frame connectors and a little reinforcement you could have a unique design ( and avoid the roof skin) . Make sure the gin is out of the garage before you contemplate that one . Great show today, see you Tuesday !
I know there were a few "KITS" out there... and I do like a third-gen convertible..... Putting one of these on a chassis * Roadster shop, Schwartz, Scotts Hot Rods, Morrison) would strengthen it enough to run a convertible..... Getting a top to operate properly makes me tired just thinking about it....
A convertible second gen would have been cool but would require a full chassis. However, I have never liked T-top F bodies they look weird in my opinion.
The first gen had a convertible and it was a unibody as well. I remember cutting up a rusted out 69 SS convertible back in 1974 and it had a bunch of extra stiffeners in the floor pan and these things we called cocktail shakers on the four corners, cans filled with oil to help dampen the vibrations specific in the ragtops.
I have to admit I wasn't too keen on you taking out that crumple zone but seeing it afterwards I kinda like it....its that extra mile you go that seperates us 'good enough guys' from the 'show car people'....good job. 😊 Personally, I've grown to like & prefer the electric shears they make these days doing by 2 D metal cutting, quick, easy and clean and reasonably cheap ~ $ 40.00. I mention 2 D because going over quick high ridges (as in 3 D) they're really aren't suited for that.)
Great teaching. Just a thought but start combing used tool adds for a throatless bench shear like a Beverly. Doing it with hand ones is a young man's game. Arthritis visits us all at some point and the hands are needed for more important work.
Is that a Milwaukee cordless da? I might have to get one. Always wondered why they didn't come out with one. Air tools tend to get a little frosty this time of year and sweat.
It's a phosphatizer with mild acid... I fixed the link in the description.... It has a mild acid and cleans flash rust and contamination off really well.... it's also an anti-spatter if you're welding on it. Been using it for years as a metal conditioner.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I’ve talked to paint people over the last year. One mentioned do not use any rust converters or they will not guarantee results. Any comments on this? Do rust converters/products cause future problems with primer/paint down the road? If you have any videos on this topic of preparation before primer with different situations that would be great. Like a project that sat for years or some surface rust. It would be great to see how you hang/support panels to spray them. Any suggestions for how to hold a door and still be able to reach areas to cover. Thanks again. I am currently working on a project again this spring and interested in watching/learning. The hour long video doesn’t bother me. That’s a lot less than it takes!
I bought a aftermarket panel a full delete panel. Do you think it’s better to cut out all the metal underneath of it and leave a lip to weld too or but weld
@paintucation you seem to have a lot of confidence in the product, I'm likely going to order a gallon. Thanks Kevin, you've been an inspiration for years, a big part of why I do what I do. Cheers 🍻
Thanks for watching this! It's a simple project, and kinda irrelevant in the grand scheme of CAMARO.... It's a detail that makes me happy to have done, and was an easy one to pass in. The perception of a quality build is made up of a thousand details..... this is number 5. PS, here's a little Google-history on "crumple-zones" on 70's GM cars...... "The second generation Chevrolet Camaro, produced from 1970 to 1981, did not have dedicated crumple zones as modern safety standards define them; this was because crumple zone technology was not widely implemented in cars during that era, making them significantly less safe in frontal collisions compared to newer vehicles.". So.... There is no crumple-zone in the firewall... it's just an ugly stamping. 😉
I watch pretty regular. It’s a confidential VIN. Confidential for a reason. To keep thieves at bay. Please stop telling people where the VIN#’s are located. It makes recovering stolen vehicles almost impossible, if the VIN’s are removed.
@@davidhanks3371The location of the confidential VINs has been published in countless magazine articles and restoration guides. Kevin isn’t giving away any secrets here.
@davidhanks3371 google vin locations on 1971 camaro and there will be a list of locations. If someone watched his videos with the intent of finding the vin locations they're wasting time lol
Do we really think, in today's world, thieves aren't aware of these "confidential VINs"? I was more fascinated to learn that they existed to prove originality than worrying about theft and recovery.
In the 70s a friend crashed his 68 Camaro into the end of a guardrail . He walked away! But the crumple zone was the rear package shelf.
Dude you can make a 5 hour long video and i would watch it all the way threw , dont listen to those peple talking about having fast forward , i learn so mutch from your videos 😀
Thanks man!!! The project tells me how long it's gonna take, not haters!! Lol!!! Thanks for the kind words! 😊
VGG last night, Derek was showing what needs to be done to Independence and couldn’t stop thinking, that’s exactly what Kevin is doing to your old Camaro.
Had those exact same thoughts
Easy way to clear out space by “donating” projects to his buddies!
We should be thanking you is for making a videos for so many years from television to RUclips your share your personal experiences on what to do and what not to do when it comes to painting cars and fixing cars in general I just been watching you since I was just a kid
Thank you my friend! We appreciate you being here. :-)
Great video! I'm enjoying watching the camaro come together. Never seen an in dept video on a car on a rotisserie, can't wait for that! Keep up the great work, Kevin!
For irregular cuts like that I like using a jigsaw with a fine tooth metal cutting blade and cut it about 1/8” oversized. Then I come back and cut it to final size with the tinsnips. It’s way easier to cut it with tinsnips when they’re only cutting off a tiny amount of metal vs the whole sheet because the snips can easily curl the thin strip of metal out of the way. Plus it keeps the remaining edge of the big sheet from getting all wavy.
Good tips! Thanks! I'm still working on a complete set of tools.
I am absolutely digging this build, I have a completely rust free 79 that I would love to convert but I just don't have the heart to cut it up.. I wouldn't worry about not having power windows as we both know the regulators are junk in all honesty(iykyk)...and again candy green over gold flake wold put this one over the top..lol ..thanks for the video Kevin..much appreciated.
Easy enough to do, so I'll be adding this step to my 2nd gen build now. Thank you!
Awesome!!!
Really good video! lots a detail, really like the way you explain what you are doing and how to do it correctly. Thanks
Kevin, I wish Saturdays come twice a week. I really enjoy these videos.
Thank you!!! Me too!!! I'm having alot of tun wht this channel! I appreciate you watching. :)
@paintucation - Hey Kevin, I 100% agree that the firewall look ugly right there. However GM built those wrinkles into the firewall for a reason. they were there to keep the flat panels from beer canning and making noise and to add some tension to the firewall tunnel in that area. I like your solution better, but I would have put some smaller bead rolls in it to stiffen it up a little. also, whoever put that break master cylinder did it wrong, in order of assembly, it was Booster, master cylinder, and then the bracket for the proportioning valve, that how it got crap down behind the master cylinder and rusted. also, at 12:58 in the video, you can see the original neutral safety switch from the factory. your looks to be completely intact. to the best of my knowledge, no one reproduces it. so hang on to it, you may need it. It snaps over a plastic peg and plastic slider clips to the clutch pedal. it also gives you a really good shot of the rubber seal that goes around the clutch rod that connects to the clutch Z-bar. this car is making huge process and i am loving the build.
So, this is so cool! I'll definitely hang onto the safety switch... and thank you for acknowledging that my car was a standard shift.... I know it, but I've had alot of pushback on what I've found... You sir, are a wealth of knowledge! and I really appreciate it!!! I want to learn all i can about this car as I morph it into my dream-car. Thanks man!!!
A great place to show all those fundamental good habits, a well packed video of good results. Thanks for the nearly 1 hour worth of knowledge.
Cutting stuff up for fun!!!! Its looking awesome!!!
Thanks Rodney!!!!!
Awesome Kevin! I’m doing a 76 Trans Am so your video is timely.
Doing door skins, mini tubs, shaving parking lights, and shaving firewall.
However, 18g pre-cut firewall metal is readily available now for a good price online. It saves a lot of time that way and covers a lot more area. Cheers.
I could watch this all day long we learn alot from this
Thanks!!!!
I grew up watching you on the speed channel and help build some awesome cars then we didn’t have cable after I hit 14 and I started watching car content on RUclips and then low and behold you start your own channel I’m learning alot myself I’m starting to save money to get my own project to build a little a time it will take a few years but im just gonna go ahead a do it with what I have and thanks for the longer videos I enjoy watching this builds on of my favorite ones on RUclips right now
You said something about the "logarithm" requiring hour long videos. Not sure what that means but I will watch your stuff no matter what, I enjoy your style of teaching / presenting and talking thru the why reasons as you go. Your knowledge is going to benefit generations because of this format, thank you again for the tremendous amount of time and effort you are putting into these postings.
The videos are the length that they are because the project tells me how long it needs to be. I don't have an agenda going into doing any kind of a RUclips episode, it comes out the other end like I think it needs to be. Thanks for watching, I hope these videos benefit some people! I'm happy to put out the information, and I'm having fun doing it. :-) thanks for watching my friend.
I’m really grateful for what you are showing us and teaching us along the way of how to do things properly!
Don’t let criticizing comments let you down or rethink what you are doing. Please keep on doing what you are doing and keep on sharing the knowledge to us with this amazing platform 🙌🏻
Can’t wait to see Rotisserie (Sorry if I mis-spelled it)
P.S. Loved your fast forwarding Disclaimer 😂
thx Kevin
Paintucation... Nice work as always Kevin. I like those Milwaukee sanders, been thinking about getting them and their new M12 1/2 and 3/8 impacts. Every time I think about getting them they are out of stock or on backorder..
Same... I really want a 1/4 drive impact.... can't find one
thank you as always for explaining what you're doing & using for people like me who have no clue what they're doing.
Great idea to show the back of the panel during welding, not something anyone typically gets to see. This is what I call a "but I'll know" project. 99 people out of 100 won't notice, but things like this make me feel better for myself when I'm done. Thank you as always sir, have a great week ~ Chuck
Hiya Kevin!
Take it from an old sheet metal journeyman, use those snips for trimming and get a set of mid west offset snips when cutting into flat stock. You won’t get that can opener effect, and your cuts will be faster and smoother. In addition, get a deburring tool for the cutting wheel burr. You can find them in the plumber section of those home building stores. Hope that helps you on your journey.
Thank you sir!!! I'll get those tools on hand, thanks for the suggestion, very much appreciated. :)
It's so good to see such attention brought to these 70-73 (designed) F-Bodies. I fell in love with them in, well, 1970 when I was in college. Bought my 1st 71 in 74 as a college graduation gift to myself, and have had them ever since, maybe a dozen or so over the years. Built them, raced them,, fabricated speed parts back in the day that weren't yet available (with Adams and Gulstrand as the suspension gurus for guidance). I never met an F-Body I didn't love. Thank you Kevin for what you're doing. I'm way older than you, but kinda feel a unique brotherhood with your interests paralleling mine. I love it when you young guys are into this stuff.
Hey Johnnie, these cars were the holy grail when I was a teenager... I loved the early second Gens.... my Brothers best friend Mike had a White 73 that was legendary! On my previous (78 Z28) car I did several "Adams" mods on the rear springs, and that car handled great!!! It was cool to dig into the history and learn tht we all need to thank Herb Adams!!! Building this car is like having a dream unfold in real-time and it's a privilege to build it on RUclips!! there's many guys like you that are also willing to share your knowledge with me, making me richer for it. Thank you!!! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Be well! KT ( PS, I can't help but think your handle is an early Brady Bunch reference.... am I on the mark? }
@@paintucationwas my favorite also love that split bumper and snorkel scoops. 69's most people's favorite but i think these models look much better... Great videos like how you show everything lot better to learn with.
Keepemcoming
@@paintucation yessir, you are right. I STILL have a thing for Eve Plumb.
Speaking as someone who did years of tin bashing, You my man would benefit greatly with using offset or crescent shears. Same manufacturer just a wider bottom shear. Less need to peel back the cut off because it is supported by the bottom shear & you can walk your snips through the sheet while never completely closing them to the tip.
Love those belt sanders. Back in the day lots of my edge finishing was done with my Belt Sander. If I wanted really fine I would use my Warding Second Cut hand file..
I was always waiting for Saturday for power block. Love that shit just to watch you work.
Thank you so much for sharing.
Nice work, makes for a “custom” &” finished” look like it shoulda had from the factory,👍
Always look forward to the videos each week
Thank you!!
Sweet as build, love the series. Cheers for sharing the knowledge it helps more than you know.
Loving this project. I’m a Camaro fan all the way 🍻👍
I really like the work you do. I need to pay attention. You do have good ideas
Thank you!!! 😊
You make this look easy, well done.
I have been wanting to do this to mine. Yours turned out great Kevin! Thanks for the vid!
On my '79 Formula there is a VIN just below the bottom lip of the a/c opening. I had to smooth the firewall because the previous owner installed a dual remote oil filter and fastened it with 2 bolts through the firewall into the rain gutter. When I removed the a/c box I found a wall of rusted out steel that was pretty thin to begin with.
I don't blame General Motors for that Non- Flat panel section (while being in production) that's for YOU to flatten to personal taste, a Quote from my Dad: " does that make the car run?" Translation: he was not much for esthetics!! Lol! That's a Way cool idea though KT, GM was like most manufacturers of the era, YUGE Components ie., HVAC systems etc. these days most vehicles are overladen with Electronics and Harness routing. I'm sure you'll have that Camaro Clean Sheet Crisp upon completion. Looks Great so far. No go on GIT! her on the rotisserie! And bring it back to a Solid State.
Thanks man!!! Gettin Er Dunn!!!
@paintucation you're welcome
Thanks Kevin looking amazing .
Thanks man!
Great work. 😊
Thanks Rod!
You're a real pro, always wearing the proper safety gear. I speak as a nearly deaf former mechanic..
It's important! Thanks for noticing.
I got tired of running out of gas on a weekend and bought a second bottle...no more running out.
That is a simple solution to a common problem.
Wow! NASCAR shears! I just have 50 year old Wiss compound snips I got from my Grandfather 40 years ago. They still do an amazing job! Great tools!
Now I need to learn how to properly use them! Lol! I'm a student... 😄
About time for you to work on this car keep up the good work ❤❤❤❤
Man just watched your paint tutorial and I have the same year camaro! Keep the videos coming! They're great!
@@mattmckane466 thank you!!!
Nice thing about a big 455 Pontiac with a shaker scoop in a 70s Fbody is that it completely hides the firewall😉👍 I dont even see my wrinkles😅😂🤣
Wow I have been getting behind in these videos....between the holidays the flu and taking care of family stuff....cant wait to get back to an easy saturday watching the progress in this car...hope to get back to it soon
I didn't have the flu, but I had a virus of some kind.. sucks! Glad you're healthy again !!!thanks for watching. :-)
Makeing it look easy bro! Ray Charles bent tubing! 😂😂
Great channel., keep up the great work . Cheers from western Australia 🇦🇺
@@ssracetechrodscustoms98 G'day!!! Thanks for watching!!
Man I really enjoy watching the channel . Motivation to me to get back at my project, because we can build them in our garages. And they can be what we want not what anyone else wants. 💪💪
@@d-train8033 absolutely!!!! I'm building this car for ME!!! It's such a freeing process to get creative and invent a vehicle, meanwhile saving one from the shredder along the way. Thanks for watching!
@paintucation thank you for letting us all be apart of watching you step by step I have a 75 Buick century GS that I am building I just bought a t-top roof out of a 76 Grand Prix that I'm going to install they never made one they did make a regal never a century. So watching you build that Camaro to what you want it to be is just inspiration and motivation thank you very much
Coming along nicely. Boy it's came along way. Goes to show it TAKES TIME!! To do it right! Can't wait to see it done! I know you can't ether!
Thanks man!
Kevin, not to endorse anyone but on this particular project has AMD been the best choice? I have no idea what options are even out there
2. Open the box, what if there is a dent? Or the wrong part?
Thank you Kevin. Great show. This has been an amazing project.
So, what I've found is that once you choose a "Brand" (based on what you expect ... Higher prices usually translate to a better quality). Then it comes down to customer service... What are the return policies? Return shipping charges? Availability and response of the reseller, and also the quality of the packaging/crating of the parts. I've never been disappointed by AMD on any of these points... It's really up to the consumer to research these things and see what recourse you have after the purchase.... Not all aftermarket parts are made by the same company!!! It's a complex network of offshore manufacturers and they have very different standards most times.... AMD chooses very carefully, and it shows. I'm not saying there's nobody else that has good quality products and after care when it comes to shipping and returns, but since you're asking specifically about amd, I've had nothing but a positive experience with not only their parts, but also as a brand ambassador, understanding what goes behind the R&d and development as well as manufacture, shipment, customer service, and marketing.
@ thank you, thank you, thank you!
On my 73 F'bird, I made a forming die to intensify those ribs. Also added another rib along the top. Got real nice definition and eliminated an oil can that I had. I'm also going with vintage air system so I cut out that whole area of the firewall and flush welded a ribbed patch in that area. Worked out slick!! I wish I could send you pics but don't know how to attach pics here.
So, you gave it a six-pack!!! Awesome!!! 👍
Watching from Charleston SC area
Nice work Kevin I did something similar to a 944 firewall. It was still a bit crumpled after the front clip install. I used kitty hair and bondo, pretty hack but to be fair I worked in the paint department.
Nice work Kevin
Love the second gen content!!
Looks better thanks
You should get yourself a wallpaper/painters razor. You can chip off the dull blade with a pliers, it’s also very easy to control.
Instead of pushing the cardboard with a pen, you can spray paint on it and get a good outline too. Forgot which RUclipsr I learned that from.
Good tip!
Thanks for this! I'm doing the exact same thing on my 72 z28 today, wild timing !
Awesome!! it's an easy mod, but it's a nice change underhood!!
After working with Eastwood, I'm surprised you don't use any of their products. (welder, etc.) Also, those factory wrinkles add more rigidity than a flat panel alone. Although, I'm sure you know that. To each his own.
I do have some Eastwood tools, scattered about though. I like it smoothed, and I'll get rigidity in other ways. thanks!
@@paintucation Fair enough. Thanks Kevin. I do enjoy the channel.
@@Rick-O-Shay60 Thanks Rick! Appreciate you commenting!!
well dunno if you noticed you got the boot for the clutch rod going out the firewall! also your brake pedal switch stop is for a manual transmission, (because mine for an auto transmission is different) and the presence of the clutch safety start switch, and you got the rubber bumper stop for the clutch pedal.. (out of stock at firebird central) but yep more signs of a standard transmission car! crazy how we used to convert these cars back in the day... the owner got old and too lazy to shift it anymore LOL! GOOD STUFF!
Yes! I saw that. Somebody told me those OG switches are worth something and to hang on to them... I can't throw anything away, so I guess I will. :)
@@paintucationgoes without saying NEVER THROW ANYTHING AWAY ive had issues with every single replacement part ive installed so far. real close to a running driving stopping car (we are sorta doing it backwards, started on rotisserie and did the floor and under paint, going for a assembled drivetrain lastly body paint then interior)my brake light switch doesnt line up correctly, have no idea about clutch start guess im gonna delete it... we cannot get an assembly manual for a 79 pontiac firebird so im somewhat lost on what part is where.... you can however get one for a camaro... the tang that bolts to the brake pedal for the brake switch is diffrent than ours for an auto, anyway a frustrating problem i havnt solved yet, but we got to have brake lights very important! (i installed the brake booster and the brake switch shot into the backseat)
OOOh...cutting out that patch made me hurt. LOL
As someone else has said, rough cut the patch 1/8 to 1/4" over size then come back and trim with the snips.
But I understand. You're using what you have on hand (because: "the other shop." lol) to get the job done and you did. That's what matters.
For everyone reading: Ron Covell and Lazze (Kevin, I KNOW you know who they are) have some videos demonstrating the use of "aviation snips" and other metal working tips.
I admit, Derek has spoiled me on long videos. The "shorts" now are just long enough to make me mad. LOL
Have a good one!
Sheet metal nibbler would be great for cutting out that panel. I just fisinshed doing the pasenger side floor pan, have to do a partial on the drivers side. Then the cowl dash panel. The rust repair Im not feeling is the windshield channel. Past booty fab by PO, filled the rust holes there with bondo, and then glued the windshield in. I ended up finding this when I removed the windshield to replace the cowl panel. It was supposed to ba a "rust free" car with a good paint job. Not even close!! Im sure I'll find more suprises as I go.....
Nice job ...looks great...thanks ..🔧🔧👍
Kevin, a rasor is fine but what if you used and OLFA Knife instead? The have better control, a sharp edge if needed and safer.
Ahhh yes, the all elusive sheild on the cutoff grinder... I've heard of those but have never seen one other than the advertisement or the first time out of the box 😂 I bet I have a dozen of them in the top of my toolbox from various grinders over the years that have been long gone
Awesome content
Love the second geb f body cars. I drive my '79 firebird more than all the others combined.
I’m really interested to see how good those cutters work out. I keep buying everything Milwaukee just to make the battery cost make sense but it bled into hand tool purchases too
I'm a big fan of Milwaukee tools!!! For a lot of reasons.
When you get ready to put your brake system back together look up the Bosch electric I-booster to replace your vacuum boosted brakes. Pretty cool bit technology. I’ve got it on my car and it’s seriously impressive. Great stopping power, cleaner than hydroboost and no worries about engine Vacuum since it’s an electromechanical brake assist. CPP and retrofit innovations make plug and play kits.
That's cool!!!! I'll look into it fo sure!!
Try pulling a booster on a 3rd or 4th gen, you’ll appreciate being able to do it standing up on a 2nd gen. There was a wavy (spring) washer behind the clip on the brake pedal rod, you’ll want that or it’ll rattle like mad.
Those Milwaukee screwdrivers are excellent quality. I’ve been using them professionally for almost a year with little degradation of grip. Excellent for very little money.
I'll hunt for the wave washer... Thanks!!! Gotta pull the column anyway
@ keep at it Kevin, it’s my favourite project on RUclips. Love how you keep it honest and show us the less than perfect.
nice fix !
Thanks, I was happy with how it turned out!
Getting exciting
i'm here for the cats.
actually, it's interesting to see you use picklex20. can you talk a little about your experience with it?
Absolutely!!
@@paintucation thanks! thinking of trying it as a rust treatment but read it can remove mill scale.
Funny cat and cards. 😂
This video made me want to see this bad boy on the rotisserie ASAP.
@@mightymikethebear happening soon!!!
KOOL BRO! (Holding the floor down lol. = ) For those young ones, Ray Charles was Blind as a bat. . However talented at music, not with cars lol. OH HEY We never get to see what you do with all the Bolts and nuts etc that you keep to re-use. Can you show that? =. ).
are yo utaling about storage for later ijstallation? or refurbing them for appearance?
@paintucation @paintucation Just keeping up with them 😮 what goes where later doen the build
@paintucation also Your cleaning up and preparing of re used parts would be awesome!! Your the man!!! Thanks!
Those plastic clips try soaking them in mineral oil I have had pretty good luck keeping them from breaking because it seems to make them softer and not so brittle. Just a trick an old timer gave to me back in the late 80’s.
Spray em with armor all before you try to remove them it will rehydrate the plastic
Forget paint markers, get a box of silver sharpies, great on e coat and mill scale both
You are the only person that’s taking one hour to do video ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I know, Right! Lol!!!
Milwaukie makes cordless metal sheers for your fuel set
I'm glad I'm not only one who thinks 2nd gen firewalls are ogly
They're terrible!!! Lol!
I don't know what engine you are planning for this project but a nice little recess in the firewall would have been easy to do while you were doing this for more clearance let's say for LS fuel lines or a small-big block HEI type distributor.
Another complete video on how to do a patch, but I gladly watched every minute of it! Just one question: were those two "obnoxious ripples" you removed caused by damage or were they factory? I think I would have left them if they weren't hurting anything. (They might even have been useful stiffeners!)
ZZ TOP BLUE JEAN BLUES! I could tell that they was mine from the oil and the gasoline.
Kevin - have you ever watched Fitzees Fabrication? See how he does his "cut-n-butt" for inserting a flush panel like that.
I'm subb'd to him, I'll have tocheck that out; he always gives great info! Thanks!
@@paintucation - Go back a few years to where he's doing a truck box side (been a while, but I think he was deleting the gas flap). He goes into really great detail.
I figured out a long time ago that it’s safer to use a dull straight razor blade to cut my templates from cardboard than to use my wife’s good kitchen sheers lol!
You know a second gen convertible never happened because of the unibody. BUT with some frame connectors and a little reinforcement you could have a unique design ( and avoid the roof skin) . Make sure the gin is out of the garage before you contemplate that one . Great show today, see you Tuesday !
I know there were a few "KITS" out there... and I do like a third-gen convertible..... Putting one of these on a chassis * Roadster shop, Schwartz, Scotts Hot Rods, Morrison) would strengthen it enough to run a convertible..... Getting a top to operate properly makes me tired just thinking about it....
A convertible second gen would have been cool but would require a full chassis. However, I have never liked T-top F bodies they look weird in my opinion.
The first gen had a convertible and it was a unibody as well. I remember cutting up a rusted out 69 SS convertible back in 1974 and it had a bunch of extra stiffeners in the floor pan and these things we called cocktail shakers on the four corners, cans filled with oil to help dampen the vibrations specific in the ragtops.
@ I wonder how much subframe connectors or a full frame would add to the weight of the car.
I’m gonna set that on the floor for now,LOL
I have to admit I wasn't too keen on you taking out that crumple zone but seeing it afterwards I kinda like it....its that extra mile you go that seperates us 'good enough guys' from the 'show car people'....good job. 😊
Personally, I've grown to like & prefer the electric shears they make these days doing by 2 D metal cutting, quick, easy and clean and reasonably cheap ~ $ 40.00. I mention 2 D because going over quick high ridges (as in 3 D) they're really aren't suited for that.)
Great teaching. Just a thought but start combing used tool adds for a throatless bench shear like a Beverly. Doing it with hand ones is a young man's game. Arthritis visits us all at some point and the hands are needed for more important work.
Is that a Milwaukee cordless da? I might have to get one. Always wondered why they didn't come out with one. Air tools tend to get a little frosty this time of year and sweat.
THe speed c ontrol is awesome.... and the torque you get from electric tools is nice on a DA
Your way builds muscle to show off to the girls that loves the car
Like the harmony guitars.. pex
Me too! 4 parts layered in there. :)
Good job. Now instead of a clean unrusted sheet metal you have a weld that needs to be body worked on both sides.
Nope, front side, obviously... Cleanup and seam sealer on the back.... Easy-Peasy!!! But, you do you!
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@ doesn’t it bother you to know what’s hiding under the carpet, lol
Nice work! What’s that pickle stuff about? Is it like an OSPHO? Do you to cover it now?
It's a phosphatizer with mild acid... I fixed the link in the description.... It has a mild acid and cleans flash rust and contamination off really well.... it's also an anti-spatter if you're welding on it. Been using it for years as a metal conditioner.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I’ve talked to paint people over the last year. One mentioned do not use any rust converters or they will not guarantee results.
Any comments on this? Do rust converters/products cause future problems with primer/paint down the road?
If you have any videos on this topic of preparation before primer with different situations that would be great. Like a project that sat for years or some surface rust.
It would be great to see how you hang/support panels to spray them. Any suggestions for how to hold a door and still be able to reach areas to cover.
Thanks again. I am currently working on a project again this spring and interested in watching/learning. The hour long video doesn’t bother me. That’s a lot less than it takes!
To rid staims on your jems i recommend boiling them you need to cut downa steel barrel build a fire add wayer and some soap
I bought a aftermarket panel a full delete panel. Do you think it’s better to cut out all the metal underneath of it and leave a lip to weld too or but weld
It's weird, but I like that "color scheme" with black final 3rd, red doors and metal fenders
It's ohio state colors 😂
That pickleX 20 ain't cheap, but does look like it might go far
I've been working on a gallon for 4 years... It goes a long way!!
@paintucation you seem to have a lot of confidence in the product, I'm likely going to order a gallon.
Thanks Kevin, you've been an inspiration for years, a big part of why I do what I do.
Cheers 🍻
as a fellow left hander, I know these struggles well!
Thanks man!!! The struggle is real!! Lol! 🤣