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I agree with you 100%. My gf did immediately tell me that she's only separated. You know, I was conscious that this is a problem but I love her from the bottom of my heart. So we decided to go the difficult way of annulment. Now after 3 years and spending some money she has her cenomar.
I and mine are in the same situation. She was 100% honest and up front about it from the very beginning, so I agreed to see the formal annulment through with her, and _then_ marry her when that is done _before_ we set up housekeeping together. Her family, friends, co-workers and employer (who is Muslim) know all about me and everyone is keenly aware that we are going about it all in a socially proper and legal fashion. Good on you for doing it the right way!
@@joshuarizalforeman816 great point of view! Mine was abandoned 15 years prior by a Pinoy. He has been with someone else ever since, and she has been working as an OFW in the Middle East most of that time. Very critical that we do everything the _right_ way!
She told me up front that she was married. But not in love with her hubby anymore because his cheating and verbal abuse i told her get anulement she said she will . I told her i cant take the risk of going to prison. And that we have to end this we both love each other i never slept with her she wants to but its no no for me. Its to many single filipina women i can be with
Don't hesitate to talk to her friends, colleagues, relatives and neighbors before getting into a serious relationship. It always break my heart to hear foreigners being scammed by a Filipina. There are a lot of Filipinas out there who are good. Take time and don't rush the relationship. Get to know the girl and the family.
Unfortunately the condition of "financial domination" which these men have renders them unable to listen to any kind of reality. I doubt there is an adult alive today that hasn't heard many times "don't send money to anyone you've only met online" or "online dating is a fantasy" or about catfishing or...on and on. Yet 1000's of men go online because they really can't help themselves. It's a compulsion to believe they will only be loved by giving anything they have to woman. A fantasy. Anyone saying anything negative about their fantasy, any question at all, will be seen as an attack on their fantasy and therefore on their own super-ego. The questioner becomes the enemy and only increases the strength of the fantasy. It's this infinite loop feedback that makes it almost impossible to stop the cycle.
It's better to know each other first before u guys decide to live each other or meet,. because nowadays it's really hard to trust someone. Very rare people are being honest and loyal.
Very High Amount Of Them On "Dating Sites." He's NOT The Only One To Get Burned By Lying, Gold Digging Scammers. It Happened To Me, More Than Once. I Found Out When I Was Sending Money To Several, When One Found Out (Who Knew The Other), And She Told Me The Other One Already Had a Long Term Boyfriend!
Yes, however, there have been cases of a Filipina using a different name. A married Filipina will use the name of a single close relative who even looks similar. The CENOMAR comes back as "she's not married". Likely the man won't go to prison but still lose a lot.
It costs, but you can pay for a background check on your Filipina if you have enough info about her, and you can find out if she has ever been married, or has any children. I recommend it for peace of mind.
I agree especially since Filipinos seem very happy to rat out even family members. It's the whole face saving, jealousy thing I guess. Heard many stories of foreigners having family members, neighbors coming to the foreigner to rat out the Filipina. Most simps refuse of course to believe or even question however. But the question has to remain...Why in the world are you even considering marriage? It makes no sense at all. No benefit and many downsides. For example, buying land/house. These findom guys buy a house for their Filipina. It's a gift yet the man continues to say "our house". It isn't. It's 100% her's. But if you don't marry her you can buy the land with her on title and execute a lease from her for 25-50 years. The man has the lease and cannot be pushed off the property by the Filipina. She only gets the land after 50 years. I'm not 100% sure if PH leases are transferable to heirs.
I knew of this German guy in Siaton, he was dating this girl who hasn't seen or had anything to do with her husband in over a decade and didn't even know where he was. She was seen in town with the German guy by a friend of the husband. So apparently the friend called the husband and he got proof of them together, and luckily he was only fined and released. It could have been much much worse. Rumor is that the husband said the German can still date his wife but he has to pay him monthly. I don't really believe that, but it wouldn't surprise me.
most warped story I heard of was the guy who paid for big wedding in thailand in her village.....everyone knew she was married but no one spilled the beans
Being married to a filipina originally from Duma for 43 yrs we often say we could write a book on filipina/ foreigner relationships. It’s always something.
A Canadian National just killed his wife and than himself in Bacolod a few days ago. They have 2 small children... Sad story.. Seems to be more common than we think :(
Check their Federal IDs, CENOMARs ... & adding this (if it's 'legal'), have them sign an NDA with an attorney present Act like Leo DiCaprio when you set foot in the PI. Not out of narcissism, to PROTECT yourself! Haven't seen any videos about NDAs yet. Do you know Gio, or anyone know anything about NDAs in the PI?
Having a relationship with a Filipina with a child regardless of whether a government marital document exists can set the man up for future ramifications. The child’s biological father will always have more clout and importance in that child’s life. And if the father is not present, why do many seek out and want a relationship with their father regardless of his absence. The question is …Why would a single man want to play clean-up and take the leftovers the real father didn’t find worth living with?
So many Filipinas with children look for foreigners because the stakes are even higher for them - childrens' empty stomachs are their biggest motivation.
Great video Gio, i think its fair to say guys due your due diligence and don't let your heart get in the way of your brain! Remember you are a living in another country know the rules and you stay out of trouble!
Hi you two. Just wanted to thank you again for our previous conversations. So how are the weeding plans coming along? I am moving one step closer and hopefully be over with in a couple months.
I think it shows how quickly, how desperate, how ignorant and hopeful some foreigners know the one another person before getting involved. I feel no sympathy for anyone who chooses to be their own worst enemy.
I dated a Filipino and found out she was married so I paid for an annulment- husband was American living in Arizona and had divorced her in US- so it wasn't too bad, but the relationship has ended.
Well that was a waste of money if he had divorced in the US the Philippines accepts that divorce there was no need for an annulment. I know because i am form Arizona married a Philippine woman in Manila and then got divorced in Arizona from her because she had left me and i did not know where she was. Any divorce done in the US is recognized by the Philippine government. So you may divorce and it is legal in the Philippines if you divorce anywhere the divorce is considered legal. I have since remarried another Philippine woman and my ex has remarried. So you did not need an annulment. Who knows maybe i am the guy that was married to your ex that i divorced in the Philippines.
Good Morning Gio! Really great information and I have never heard of that CENOMAR but I will definitely keep that in mind. I want to get all of my paperwork prior to leaving the U.S. so that I can get married, if my current relationship goes that way. Thanks again and you and Mia take care!
If I remember correctly, as part of our application for a marriage license, I had to provide a "Certificate of no Impediment" issued by the Australian Embassy IN MANILA. They would not accept such a certificate issued by the Government in Australia. (Clearly I am Australian). I believe that such a certificate only has a validity of 6 months.
In the other side of the story there was an American guy said to be single and Filipino ladies find it out that the specific guy had lots of girlfriends not just 3 but 8 ladies and 5 of these ladies had a child with that one American guy. It's been in the channel program of a well-known channel
I remember when I was in the Navy, during the 70's, adultery was a punishable offense under the U.C.M.J. and could get you in a lot of trouble also. Being with a married Filipina is like living in a house of cards during a typhoon. Take care Gio.
I'm with a lady, 44, who was married. She showed me her legal separation papers. So far no problems and I don't really expect any. I think having a lady legally separated is ok. If not legally separated, taking a risk.
There's no such thing as "Legal Separation Papers" in the Philippines. Maybe you mean annulment papers? Annulments usually costs around a million pesos or more.
A legal separation protects her from his future debts. It has zero effect on her dating you. She is still married. Get an attorney Having proof that he is seeing someone else may keep him from complaining about you.
Maybe RUclipsrs or "influencers" there should start mentioning the CENOMAR (Certificate of No Marriage) more often in their videos until it is burned into foreigners brains and it's one of the 1st things they ask for. If a woman can't/won't provide one, even if you offer to pay for it (Believe they're really cheap to get), MOVE ON. There are plenty of other women that will be happy to provide one (If they can).
Well, adultery is illegal in most of USA and in my state, NY, you could be jailed for up-to 3 months, but I have never seen it done being in LE field for over 30 years LOL
If a husband is living with another woman and having children with her, and he tries to charge his abandoned wife with adultery, the judge will laugh him out of court and may sanction his attorney. That is often the situation with the "married" Filipinas that foreigners are partnering with.
Everyone needs to consider if disaster strikes what will you do. For the man who murders he destroys two lives his victim & his own. He could of just walked away taken his loss learned his lesson & gone on to happy life. He made evil decision. Tend to your faith life people please.
I finally made it to dumagette but the Filipina are way to shy to chat! Here for 3 more days then leaving really don’t want to do the on line thing but see how it goes. Next trip November
@@GiointhePhilippines Hi Gio This is Pete from fort Myers Florida we where going to meet one time when you where planing to go to Tampa . Anyways I’m in siquijor until tomorrow be back in Dumagette tomorrow I been checking the coffee shops there to see if I run into you or Paul but not sure time you all go there I’m flying out the 19th I wish you a happy marriage hope to make friends this year with you guys . Thanks for the dating sight but I get so stressed out with them. I’ll try to meet in person or through friends if not I’ll try the sight Thanks my friend
EVEN IM PINAY MARRIED ALSO TO A BRITISH GUY I DONT BLAME THE AMERICAN BCOZ I KNOW HE BEEN HONEST TO THAT GIRL THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY LIED , THATS WHY HE DO THAT TO THE PINAY ,, HOPE THATS THE LESSON FOR ALL THE PINAY NOT TO BE LIED TO A NICE PEOPLE LIKE FOREIGNERS..
Messing with a married woman is foolish behavior. The fact Filipinos are unable to divorce is no excuse. There are millions of single Filipinas no need to commit adultery.
I am involved with a married woman,, my wife.. Guys just need to watch a few videos on Philippines prisons, and how long it takes to see a judge..And you DONOT get time served while you are waiting to see the judge..Good video Gio.. After catching both american wives cheating while on the road working 90 hours a week,, I actually love these laws,, would have saved me 2 houses, a commercial building a 3 unit apartment building and at least 200K..Thats the reason I personally became a passport Bro..
I am not paying for some woman to prove that she is single; nor would I pay for her annulment. That makes absolutely no sense. She should have her evidence of availability just like I would be required to do so.
I think you may check out details of a fipina from the NATIONAL STATISTIC OFFICE (NSO) CENOMAR to find out status of the filipina 0r ask help from the NBI.
I paid for an annulment- the ex husband signed it. Kind of a legal disappearing process for the ex effectively. In the beginning my girl never hid it from me though
Good advice in this video - And guys even if she's yelling "Give it to me! Give it to me!" - "I'm so wet, give it to me now!" - She could scream all she wants, but I was keeping the umbrella !
When the two parties in the relationship are Filipino it doesn't matter so much if they split up and start over. Very, very prevalent actually, but what can cause issues is when there is a foreigner involved and now the Filipino husband wants some kind of compensation or else...
Gday Gio, after watching your latest vidoe, got a question for you, hypothetically let's say a woman tells you she's a widow, so she was married but the husband is deceased, how can you find out if this is true and through what channels would you go through to get evidence of this, because we all know some women can lie about their status, right?? Does the sinemar provide this information as well?
ask for her birth cert, marriage cert, birth cert and death certificate of the husband, very easy to acquire, this can all be accomplished in a trip to Philippine Statistics Authority (PSA) or National Statistics Office - NSO (old name)... This way you see her maiden name on birth cert, then see the names (hers/husband) on marriage cert and if guy matches the names/details on death certificate and birth cert of the late husband. Having these documents put you in the best position legally, and if they were forged, you can present those in court as forgery by the girl. If she refuses to get all of these documents... run!
as for you CeNoMar inquiry, read below: Q: I am a widow / widower. The death certificate of my spouse has already been with PSA / NSO database. I am getting married again. How come that I still appear "married" on my CENOMAR? BCIDP Law Office & General Consultancy Philippines Marriage & Family Laws Division ANSWERS: When one requests for a CENOMAR at PSA, whatever marriage records of a person shall be indicated in the said document. It will never indicate that the other party in a particular marriage stated therein has died already. We have no such "technical capability" yet. The widow/widower has to submit the death certificate of his/her spouse to the LCR/CCR where their marriage was recorded. Then it will submit a report to the PSA as to such fact. The difficult part is that, for purposes or remarrying and for your prior marriage to be "cancelled" due to death of the other party, one has to get a court order to cancel his/her existing marriage record on account of death of the other party. Simply because, PSA is not clothed with legal authority to amend any civil register of a person without a court order (unless covered by R.A. No.10172, 9048, 9858, 9255, etc). As of today, we are not aware of a new system PSA may had been doing for such case without compelling the surviving party to get a court order to declare him/her in the CENOMAR as "free to re-marry". If there is such, then it should automatically appear in the CENOMAR that the other party in that marriage record is already dead, hence, already cancelled. Then life would be very easy for any surviving spouse to remarry. It would take a law from Congress to have it automatically cancelled. That is why the need to submit a death certificate becomes necessary when you apply for a marriage license to remarry (Art. 13, Family Code of the Philippines). Ironically, you will have two marriage records later on for lack of policy on that matter.
The only person who can press charges is the spouse and not the family. How to avoid this problem is when you are messaging this person ask are they married? If they say no keep a screen shot of this and that can stop you being in trouble with the police. Wouldn’t wish an annulment on anyone quicker for a Filipino to become an OFW and file for divorce overseas. My girlfriends took 5 years to finalise and still waiting for the national copy.
What's Crackin Gio? Love your channel my guy! I'm flying from America to the Philippines to meet and marry my Filipina fiancé on Jun 11th. I have all my ducks in order so I hope. My cenomar has no experation date but I herd that they expire after 90 days is that true? I will be in Bacolod for 3 weeks is that realistic amount of time to get married or am I over reaching here? Thanks!
From my experience being married to a woman that just happens to originate from the Philippines. Its really important to recognise inherent problems in Filipino society. A society so poverty ridden and devoid of fundamental opportunity that most of that society dreams of living abroad and whose government sets up elaborate systems to prevent freedom to leave.The Philippines is systemically flawed. Beware the effects of these evident flaws.
So what do you think the Bachelor Show is about with Western women wanting to find their eligible man. Australian news reports have lots of fluff stories about so called successful career women being unable to find eligible men. Western women monkey branch when they have the opportunity, the divorce rate is well over 50%.
When my wife and I were dating and getting serious, she got that CENOMAR in her hands before you could say Jack Robinson. We’ve been married for 12 years now. If you’re serious about your Filipina, she will get it without any complaints.
thx Gio,,so many times,,i see on facebook,,a girls profile will say ,,seperated,,or,,its complicated,,and when asked,,they say their husband has a new g f,,ect,,,,one told me her X told her to find another after she caught him red handed,,oh my ,, i sure dont want to go into a philipine jail,,!
He's a lot to blame but I'm not without sympathy for him because deception is a deep kind of pain, an enormous pain. However, he's old enough to know how corrupt and contaminated the adult world is and he had the option to investigate her before investing in her. He could have gone to the bureau that verifies her as married or single. He threw away what's left of his life.
Hey Gio, you would think they could come up with a legal disclosure form that she could sign affirming her marital status as single that could be filed away, and if things progress towards a possible marriage well good. You would also have this in the event an unknown husband resurfaces and decides to be spiteful or possibly distort the situation, you would at least have this on the ready to cover yourself in the event you were lied to.
The Divorce Bill already passed the House, but NOT the Senate. This current President is not for the bill and he can veto the bill. No Senator has sponsored the bill to date. So, it’ll be a long time before, IF ever, will this bill gets approved.
If she has at least a kid, you have to be very careful. There is a good chance she was married. I know it’s not always the case, but you have to use your common sense.
This has been said on every channel, for decades now. Anyone foolish enough to still do so is a lost cause and I have little sympathy for that type of foolishness.
@@roselee4445 Wrong. Take that seriously. You wish to get married, and just before the wedding...ex hubby pops up...to demand money from the rich foreigner. Doesn't matter if its been 10 years since they've seen each other.
Mine was very up-front about the fact that she was separated (abandoned by her husband 15 years prior, one teenage son who was an infant at the time - the ex has been with someone else ever since) at the time we first met. Because she was honest on that point, I decided to give her a chance and am glad I did. One caveat: we agreed that we would wait out the formal annulment process before going further. We do intend to marry before setting up housekeeping together. Her whole extended family knows about me, so does everyone in her circle of friends, so do her co-workers, and even her employer. As she is currently an OFW in a Mid-East country, we are making very certain that we do everything properly.
I showed my divorce papers to the girl that I'm going to marry in the Philippines and she went and got to Cinemar to show I didn't see the problem with that at all neither did she
Sad that foreigner just ended her life tho, lies get you nowhere in life.. Only a fool get involved with a married person. Ive saw on Raffy theyre waiting for this German man to returned to the Philippines so they can open a case against him for adultery.. Once you found out she's lying just end things.
I also say, if you meet a Filipina and she has kids but they don't live with her, her mother, or her family, RUN. If not it will cost you a ton of money and it will probably never end.
Hey to the guy messing with married lady in the Philippines I was scammed into a relationship where I lost house furniture a ton of money to find out when I was pushing to get married because I thought it was the right thing to do was get married the girl was been married and when tried to get her to pay half of an annulment she just took everything I owned with her family left me brook and homeless
With so many to choose from, why would you take the risk? If youve had a few dates and want to get more serious, then ask for the cenomar. If she cant give you one, move on.
Nc Vid Man,ders a news/tradgedy recently also involiving a Foriegner A Canadian who killed also her Filipina Wife in Bacolod City, their Children saw the actual crime/killing of der mother, lastly d Canadian slit his wrist to commit suicide he eventually Died...
The guys and girls that sleep around outside of marriage and have kids who desert them and don't take care for the kids ought to be found out and put to slave labor. Same thing should go for any country.
Ironically, I was just reading the laws this morning before YT showed this video. I think the article has the punishments per gender backwards. They cater to the man more. But like everything, easy to verify on your own.
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I'm with you Gio, I don't want to date anyone who's married. Prison over something like that isn't in my play book of life
I agree with you 100%. My gf did immediately tell me that she's only separated. You know, I was conscious that this is a problem but I love her from the bottom of my heart. So we decided to go the difficult way of annulment. Now after 3 years and spending some money she has her cenomar.
I and mine are in the same situation. She was 100% honest and up front about it from the very beginning, so I agreed to see the formal annulment through with her, and _then_ marry her when that is done _before_ we set up housekeeping together. Her family, friends, co-workers and employer (who is Muslim) know all about me and everyone is keenly aware that we are going about it all in a socially proper and legal fashion. Good on you for doing it the right way!
@@joshuarizalforeman816 great point of view! Mine was abandoned 15 years prior by a Pinoy. He has been with someone else ever since, and she has been working as an OFW in the Middle East most of that time. Very critical that we do everything the _right_ way!
She told me up front that she was married. But not in love with her hubby anymore because his cheating and verbal abuse i told her get anulement she said she will . I told her i cant take the risk of going to prison. And that we have to end this we both love each other i never slept with her she wants to but its no no for me. Its to many single filipina women i can be with
Don't hesitate to talk to her friends, colleagues, relatives and neighbors before getting into a serious relationship. It always break my heart to hear foreigners being scammed by a Filipina. There are a lot of Filipinas out there who are good. Take time and don't rush the relationship.
Get to know the girl and the family.
Unfortunately the condition of "financial domination" which these men have renders them unable to listen to any kind of reality. I doubt there is an adult alive today that hasn't heard many times "don't send money to anyone you've only met online" or "online dating is a fantasy" or about catfishing or...on and on. Yet 1000's of men go online because they really can't help themselves. It's a compulsion to believe they will only be loved by giving anything they have to woman. A fantasy.
Anyone saying anything negative about their fantasy, any question at all, will be seen as an attack on their fantasy and therefore on their own super-ego. The questioner becomes the enemy and only increases the strength of the fantasy. It's this infinite loop feedback that makes it almost impossible to stop the cycle.
It's not about nationality. It's about the poverty and desperation that the Philippine systems appear to be expert in generating.
It's better to know each other first before u guys decide to live each other or meet,. because nowadays it's really hard to trust someone. Very rare people are being honest and loyal.
Very High Amount Of Them On "Dating Sites."
He's NOT The Only One To Get Burned By Lying, Gold Digging Scammers.
It Happened To Me, More Than Once.
I Found Out When I Was Sending Money To Several, When One Found Out (Who Knew The Other), And She Told Me The Other One Already Had a Long Term Boyfriend!
Sounds like getting that document proving someone's marital status is the way to go.
Yes, however, there have been cases of a Filipina using a different name. A married Filipina will use the name of a single close relative who even looks similar. The CENOMAR comes back as "she's not married". Likely the man won't go to prison but still lose a lot.
Yes and very easy and cheap. Good for 6 months at a time.
Not if a Filipina has never bern married before, right?
Absolutely I wouldn't be with a woman unless she got one you don't want to be in jail in the Philippines or worse murdered by a jealous ex
It's call a cenomar just get that first before you start dateing your girlfriend or ask her to get it
It costs, but you can pay for a background check on your Filipina if you have enough info about her, and you can find out if she has ever been married, or has any children. I recommend it for peace of mind.
I agree especially since Filipinos seem very happy to rat out even family members. It's the whole face saving, jealousy thing I guess. Heard many stories of foreigners having family members, neighbors coming to the foreigner to rat out the Filipina. Most simps refuse of course to believe or even question however.
But the question has to remain...Why in the world are you even considering marriage? It makes no sense at all. No benefit and many downsides. For example, buying land/house. These findom guys buy a house for their Filipina. It's a gift yet the man continues to say "our house". It isn't. It's 100% her's. But if you don't marry her you can buy the land with her on title and execute a lease from her for 25-50 years. The man has the lease and cannot be pushed off the property by the Filipina. She only gets the land after 50 years. I'm not 100% sure if PH leases are transferable to heirs.
I knew of this German guy in Siaton, he was dating this girl who hasn't seen or had anything to do with her husband in over a decade and didn't even know where he was. She was seen in town with the German guy by a friend of the husband. So apparently the friend called the husband and he got proof of them together, and luckily he was only fined and released. It could have been much much worse. Rumor is that the husband said the German can still date his wife but he has to pay him monthly. I don't really believe that, but it wouldn't surprise me.
I believe it I absolutely believe it some of them Filipinos are pretty scandalous and greedy
If she has kids, 80 to 90% chance that she is still legally married Huge red flag
I just don't understand why these men send money to women they meet online. It's plain stupid.
most warped story I heard of was the guy who paid for big wedding in thailand in her village.....everyone knew she was married but no one spilled the beans
Being married to a filipina originally from Duma for 43 yrs we often say we could write a book on filipina/ foreigner relationships. It’s always something.
The stupidity never stops and somehow guys think it's different for them?
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Foreigners only think with what's between their legs. End of.
Gio, I'm SO happy I found your vlog. A price can't be put on the information you supply. Congratulations again to you and Maya 👍
Thank you
A Canadian National just killed his wife and than himself in Bacolod a few days ago. They have 2 small children... Sad story.. Seems to be more common than we think :(
Check their Federal IDs, CENOMARs ... & adding this (if it's 'legal'), have them sign an NDA with an attorney present Act like Leo DiCaprio when you set foot in the PI. Not out of narcissism, to PROTECT yourself! Haven't seen any videos about NDAs yet. Do you know Gio, or anyone know anything about NDAs in the PI?
Having a relationship with a Filipina with a child regardless of whether a government marital document exists can set the man up for future ramifications. The child’s biological father will always have more clout and importance in that child’s life. And if the father is not present, why do many seek out and want a relationship with their father regardless of his absence. The question is …Why would a single man want to play clean-up and take the leftovers the real father didn’t find worth living with?
A bit off topic but ok
So many Filipinas with children look for foreigners because the stakes are even higher for them - childrens' empty stomachs are their biggest motivation.
Leftover? That hurts. Im a single mother of a 12yo boy.
Great video Gio, i think its fair to say guys due your due diligence and don't let your heart get in the way of your brain! Remember you are a living in another country know the rules and you stay out of trouble!
Thank you Gio. Unfortunate means of having to encourage others, but many I am certain appreciates your efforts.
Hi you two. Just wanted to thank you again for our previous conversations. So how are the weeding plans coming along? I am moving one step closer and hopefully be over with in a couple months.
They should just be glad that they didn't get busted by the cops and sent to prison
True..but the cops there will never come do something like that..they barely check anyone driving around or at check points..
wow, was just reading this on Yahoo before doing my u-tube fix
I think it shows how quickly, how desperate, how ignorant and hopeful some foreigners know the one another person before getting involved. I feel no sympathy for anyone who chooses to be their own worst enemy.
I saw that news article online with the picture and bold headline but didn't bother reading it.
I dated a Filipino and found out she was married so I paid for an annulment- husband was American living in Arizona and had divorced her in US- so it wasn't too bad, but the relationship has ended.
Well that was a waste of money if he had divorced in the US the Philippines accepts that divorce there was no need for an annulment. I know because i am form Arizona married a Philippine woman in Manila and then got divorced in Arizona from her because she had left me and i did not know where she was. Any divorce done in the US is recognized by the Philippine government. So you may divorce and it is legal in the Philippines if you divorce anywhere the divorce is considered legal. I have since remarried another Philippine woman and my ex has remarried. So you did not need an annulment. Who knows maybe i am the guy that was married to your ex that i divorced in the Philippines.
@@michaelbyrne5469 that’s what I was thinking, like damn this is the other guy.
What a sad story but I do understand not all
Good Morning Gio! Really great information and I have never heard of that CENOMAR but I will definitely keep that in mind. I want to get all of my paperwork prior to leaving the U.S. so that I can get married, if my current relationship goes that way. Thanks again and you and Mia take care!
Thank you for your video. I have learned what is Cenomar.
If I remember correctly, as part of our application for a marriage license, I had to provide a "Certificate of no Impediment" issued by the Australian Embassy IN MANILA. They would not accept such a certificate issued by the Government in Australia. (Clearly I am Australian). I believe that such a certificate only has a validity of 6 months.
In the other side of the story there was an American guy said to be single and Filipino ladies find it out that the specific guy had lots of girlfriends not just 3 but 8 ladies and 5 of these ladies had a child with that one American guy.
It's been in the channel program of a well-known channel
Geo great information and good job
Thank you, Gio! Interesting and informative!
I remember when I was in the Navy, during the 70's, adultery was a punishable offense under the U.C.M.J. and could get you in a lot of trouble also. Being with a married Filipina is like living in a house of cards during a typhoon. Take care Gio.
Being Gay was also against the UCMJ.......ahhh the good ole days!
There was a case on my island just last week
Both in jail
Adultery is still a UCMJ offense today.
@@commonsenseisntcommon1776 not against but aware about overhyped over represented shit
A threesome is jail time in the military. LOL>
I'm with a lady, 44, who was married. She showed me her legal separation papers. So far no problems and I don't really expect any. I think having a lady legally separated is ok. If not legally separated, taking a risk.
There's no such thing as "Legal Separation Papers" in the Philippines. Maybe you mean annulment papers? Annulments usually costs around a million pesos or more.
I think you are wrong but I'm not the expert here
A legal separation protects her from his future debts. It has zero effect on her dating you. She is still married. Get an attorney Having proof that he is seeing someone else may keep him from complaining about you.
@@jportega9404a million peso is about $18,000. So it's a large enough sum but not as much as you imply.
Great show we must follow GODS and mans laws
Great video thanks man I really appreciate it
Maybe RUclipsrs or "influencers" there should start mentioning the CENOMAR (Certificate of No Marriage) more often in their videos until it is burned into foreigners brains and it's one of the 1st things they ask for. If a woman can't/won't provide one, even if you offer to pay for it (Believe they're really cheap to get), MOVE ON. There are plenty of other women that will be happy to provide one (If they can).
Well, adultery is illegal in most of USA and in my state, NY, you could be jailed for up-to 3 months, but I have never seen it done being in LE field for over 30 years LOL
You mentioned going to an attorney to get a certificate of marriage. Is that the same thing you get from the us Embassy to show that your single?
Exactly, no longer do you need to go to the embassy.
YES! That cenomar is critical!!
If a husband is living with another woman and having children with her, and he tries to charge his abandoned wife with adultery, the judge will laugh him out of court and may sanction his attorney. That is often the situation with the "married" Filipinas that foreigners are partnering with.
I don't think anyone would want take that chance for jail time.
There are very few similarities between the countries you mention.
This adds a new dimension to the concept of caveat emptor and due diligence.
Jezzz
Everyone needs to consider if disaster strikes what will you do. For the man who murders he destroys two lives his victim & his own. He could of just walked away taken his loss learned his lesson & gone on to happy life. He made evil decision. Tend to your faith life people please.
Great info G
I finally made it to dumagette but the Filipina are way to shy to chat! Here for 3 more days then leaving really don’t want to do the on line thing but see how it goes. Next trip November
I found Cebu, Davao and Manila much better for dating.
@@GiointhePhilippines
Hi Gio
This is Pete from fort Myers Florida we where going to meet one time when you where planing to go to Tampa . Anyways I’m in siquijor until tomorrow be back in Dumagette tomorrow I been checking the coffee shops there to see if I run into you or Paul but not sure time you all go there I’m flying out the 19th I wish you a happy marriage hope to make friends this year with you guys . Thanks for the dating sight but I get so stressed out with them. I’ll try to meet in person or through friends if not I’ll try the sight
Thanks my friend
EVEN IM PINAY MARRIED ALSO TO A BRITISH GUY I DONT BLAME THE AMERICAN BCOZ I KNOW HE BEEN HONEST TO THAT GIRL THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY LIED , THATS WHY HE DO THAT TO THE PINAY ,, HOPE THATS THE LESSON FOR ALL THE PINAY NOT TO BE LIED TO A NICE PEOPLE LIKE FOREIGNERS..
Messing with a married woman is foolish behavior. The fact Filipinos are unable to divorce is no excuse. There are millions of single Filipinas no need to commit adultery.
I am involved with a married woman,, my wife.. Guys just need to watch a few videos on Philippines prisons, and how long it takes to see a judge..And you DONOT get time served while you are waiting to see the judge..Good video Gio.. After catching both american wives cheating while on the road working 90 hours a week,, I actually love these laws,, would have saved me 2 houses, a commercial building a 3 unit apartment building and at least 200K..Thats the reason I personally became a passport Bro..
I learned there friends and family will go along with the lies so they too get a peace of the money
I am not paying for some woman to prove that she is single; nor would I pay for her annulment. That makes absolutely no sense. She should have her evidence of availability just like I would be required to do so.
This is beyond horrible Gio I can't believe this lying death a recipe for disaster adultery in the Philippines is a serious crime for sure
I think you may check out details of a fipina from the NATIONAL STATISTIC OFFICE (NSO) CENOMAR to find out status of the filipina 0r ask help from the NBI.
Well done !!!
I paid for an annulment- the ex husband signed it. Kind of a legal disappearing process for the ex effectively. In the beginning my girl never hid it from me though
Good advice in this video - And guys even if she's yelling "Give it to me! Give it to me!" - "I'm so wet, give it to me now!" - She could scream all she wants, but I was keeping the umbrella !
Good advice Gio, thanks
When the two parties in the relationship are Filipino it doesn't matter so much if they split up and start over. Very, very prevalent actually, but what can cause issues is when there is a foreigner involved and now the Filipino husband wants some kind of compensation or else...
You got right there
Gday Gio, after watching your latest vidoe, got a question for you, hypothetically let's say a woman tells you she's a widow, so she was married but the husband is deceased, how can you find out if this is true and through what channels would you go through to get evidence of this, because we all know some women can lie about their status, right?? Does the sinemar provide this information as well?
ask for her birth cert, marriage cert, birth cert and death certificate of the husband, very easy to acquire, this can all be accomplished in a trip to Philippine Statistics Authority (PSA) or National Statistics Office - NSO (old name)...
This way you see her maiden name on birth cert, then see the names (hers/husband) on marriage cert and if guy matches the names/details on death certificate and birth cert of the late husband. Having these documents put you in the best position legally, and if they were forged, you can present those in court as forgery by the girl.
If she refuses to get all of these documents... run!
as for you CeNoMar inquiry, read below:
Q: I am a widow / widower. The death certificate of my spouse has already been with PSA / NSO database. I am getting married again. How come that I still appear "married" on my CENOMAR?
BCIDP Law Office & General Consultancy Philippines Marriage & Family Laws Division
ANSWERS:
When one requests for a CENOMAR at PSA, whatever marriage records of a person shall be indicated in the said document. It will never indicate that the other party in a particular marriage stated therein has died already. We have no such "technical capability" yet.
The widow/widower has to submit the death certificate of his/her spouse to the LCR/CCR where their marriage was recorded. Then it will submit a report to the PSA as to such fact. The difficult part is that, for purposes or remarrying and for your prior marriage to be "cancelled" due to death of the other party, one has to get a court order to cancel his/her existing marriage record on account of death of the other party. Simply because, PSA is not clothed with legal authority to amend any civil register of a person without a court order (unless covered by R.A. No.10172, 9048, 9858, 9255, etc).
As of today, we are not aware of a new system PSA may had been doing for such case without compelling the surviving party to get a court order to declare him/her in the CENOMAR as "free to re-marry". If there is such, then it should automatically appear in the CENOMAR that the other party in that marriage record is already dead, hence, already cancelled. Then life would be very easy for any surviving spouse to remarry. It would take a law from Congress to have it automatically cancelled. That is why the need to submit a death certificate becomes necessary when you apply for a marriage license to remarry (Art. 13, Family Code of the Philippines).
Ironically, you will have two marriage records later on for lack of policy on that matter.
I checked on that before only a female can be charged unless he cohabitation with a female
Great video and info.
The only person who can press charges is the spouse and not the family.
How to avoid this problem is when you are messaging this person ask are they married? If they say no keep a screen shot of this and that can stop you being in trouble with the police.
Wouldn’t wish an annulment on anyone quicker for a Filipino to become an OFW and file for divorce overseas. My girlfriends took 5 years to finalise and still waiting for the national copy.
Thank you for the information
What's Crackin Gio? Love your channel my guy! I'm flying from America to the Philippines to meet and marry my Filipina fiancé on Jun 11th. I have all my ducks in order so I hope. My cenomar has no experation date but I herd that they expire after 90 days is that true? I will be in Bacolod for 3 weeks is that realistic amount of time to get married or am I over reaching here? Thanks!
It's doable yes
@@GiointhePhilippines I feel like eminem "I've only got one shot will i capture it or let it slip away" Thanks!
From my experience being married to a woman that just happens to originate from the Philippines. Its really important to recognise inherent problems in Filipino society. A society so poverty ridden and devoid of fundamental opportunity that most of that society dreams of living abroad and whose government sets up elaborate systems to prevent freedom to leave.The Philippines is systemically flawed. Beware the effects of these evident flaws.
So what do you think the Bachelor Show is about with Western women wanting to find their eligible man.
Australian news reports have lots of fluff stories about so called successful career women being unable to find eligible men.
Western women monkey branch when they have the opportunity, the divorce rate is well over 50%.
When my wife and I were dating and getting serious, she got that CENOMAR in her hands before you could say Jack Robinson. We’ve been married for 12 years now. If you’re serious about your Filipina, she will get it without any complaints.
thx Gio,,so many times,,i see on facebook,,a girls profile will say ,,seperated,,or,,its complicated,,and when asked,,they say their husband has a new g f,,ect,,,,one told me her X told her to find another after she caught him red handed,,oh my ,, i sure dont want to go into a philipine jail,,!
I know the pain and have been going through it for 5 years
and how did it end after 5 years? in my case it ended by an anulment of my gf’s former marriage.
What is happening with the House Resolution passed in March/April 2023 allowing divorce in the Philippines?
Nothing as of now.
He's a lot to blame but I'm not without sympathy for him because deception is a deep kind of pain, an enormous pain.
However, he's old enough to know how corrupt and contaminated the adult world is and he had the option to investigate her before investing in her. He could have gone to the bureau that verifies her as married or single.
He threw away what's left of his life.
Hey Gio, you would think they could come up with a legal disclosure form that she could sign affirming her marital status as single that could be filed away, and if things progress towards a possible marriage well good. You would also have this in the event an unknown husband resurfaces and decides to be spiteful or possibly distort the situation, you would at least have this on the ready to cover yourself in the event you were lied to.
Like a CENOMAR? That's much stronger than a Filipina's word. That's the PH gov stating her status.
You wont spend that much on cenomar. If they ask 300-400 thats HOLD-UP already.
One Leg in JAIL
It's best to ask this like a kid. How do I prove that I'm single and have been single as an American?
I really don't know how guys get in these situations. Get a Cenomar guys. YOU HAVE TO VET THESE WOMEN This is so dumb 🤨
Dangerous ground. Roll the dice and take your chances there.
The Divorce Bill already passed the House, but NOT the Senate. This current President is not for the bill and he can veto the bill. No Senator has sponsored the bill to date. So, it’ll be a long time before, IF ever, will this bill gets approved.
Great topic Gio!
I will definitely be getting her to get a sinamar. (How do I spell that word?)
Cenomar
Many Filipinas on date sites claim they're divorced.
Great information 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍
If she has at least a kid, you have to be very careful. There is a good chance she was married. I know it’s not always the case, but you have to use your common sense.
As Filipina I will agree
Never ever send money before you meet someone in person
This has been said on every channel, for decades now. Anyone foolish enough to still do so is a lost cause and I have little sympathy for that type of foolishness.
hi gio, my partner tells me that if the separation is more then ten years then no crime is committed ( she has an annulment )
I think she's not correct
@@roselee4445 Wrong. Take that seriously. You wish to get married, and just before the wedding...ex hubby pops up...to demand money from the rich foreigner. Doesn't matter if its been 10 years since they've seen each other.
@@philwaller4379 I said the person was not correct
Mine was very up-front about the fact that she was separated (abandoned by her husband 15 years prior, one teenage son who was an infant at the time - the ex has been with someone else ever since) at the time we first met. Because she was honest on that point, I decided to give her a chance and am glad I did. One caveat: we agreed that we would wait out the formal annulment process before going further.
We do intend to marry before setting up housekeeping together. Her whole extended family knows about me, so does everyone in her circle of friends, so do her co-workers, and even her employer. As she is currently an OFW in a Mid-East country, we are making very certain that we do everything properly.
Indeed, very dangerous, my God, imagine
If a Filipina has never actually been officially married before, she won’t be able to provide proof of divorce.
damn man Filipino jail is no joke either...
I showed my divorce papers to the girl that I'm going to marry in the Philippines and she went and got to Cinemar to show I didn't see the problem with that at all neither did she
you must completely lose your mind to get married in the Phillippines. No divorce and you will forever owe her half. Crazy!
Sad that foreigner just ended her life tho, lies get you nowhere in life.. Only a fool get involved with a married person. Ive saw on Raffy theyre waiting for this German man to returned to the Philippines so they can open a case against him for adultery.. Once you found out she's lying just end things.
I saw him on TV; it was tragic.
I was told that you can get a order of separation if the womans is married is this true
I also say, if you meet a Filipina and she has kids but they don't live with her, her mother, or her family, RUN. If not it will cost you a ton of money and it will probably never end.
Hey to the guy messing with married lady in the Philippines I was scammed into a relationship where I lost house furniture a ton of money to find out when I was pushing to get married because I thought it was the right thing to do was get married the girl was been married and when tried to get her to pay half of an annulment she just took everything I owned with her family left me brook and homeless
Sorry that was not smart.
Nearly all Filipinos can't afford to pay even half of what it takes to get an annulment.
With so many to choose from, why would you take the risk? If youve had a few dates and want to get more serious, then ask for the cenomar. If she cant give you one, move on.
Nc Vid Man,ders a news/tradgedy recently also involiving a Foriegner A Canadian who killed also her Filipina Wife in Bacolod City, their Children saw the actual crime/killing of der mother, lastly d Canadian slit his wrist to commit suicide he eventually Died...
The guys and girls that sleep around outside of marriage and have kids who desert them and don't take care for the kids ought to be found out and put to slave labor. Same thing should go for any country.
Interesting idea.
Ironically, I was just reading the laws this morning before YT showed this video. I think the article has the punishments per gender backwards. They cater to the man more. But like everything, easy to verify on your own.
Should be glad that husband didn't come along and whack them, blindsided and completely within the law
Can't make this up, it happens all the time.
Prenups 100% all the way. What do u think Gio?
I always require cenomar philippines. It’s only 400 pesos before booking ticket.
She can go to jail for 4 years for adultery
Correct
But a married man does not go to jail for adultery
Only for living with his mistress
Good topic