Could Israel have prevented Hamas’ October 7th attack?
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2023
- I spoke to Ronen Bergman and Adam Goldman, the New York Times writers who penned a recent article "Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than A Year Ago." They explain that Israel’s failure to prevent Oct. 7 attack was due to three main things: misunderstanding of intent, misjudgment of capabilities, and lack of reliable intelligence.
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You cannot always believe what The NY Times say, but you have checked into it for checking, Thank you for accuracy great job
I'm from Russia. All this stuff reminds of the film "Burn after reading". At least both Israeli and US special security forces should admit that they made a horrendous mistake.
mmmmm bottom line is never take anything for granted and underestimate what could happen by being too sure about anything
Hate to say it, but the first thing I thought when I heard this report was , "Well, a woman gave a dire warning and if a man had done the same, someone would have taken it more seriously". Cannot tell you how many times I and other women have indicated dangerous practices in the workplace, only to be dismissed as "alarmist".
Let it happen on purpose?
No
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces - The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from
By TAL SCHNEIDER Times of Israel, 8 October 2023
My fear is that Netanyahu wanted all of this to happen- so he had an excuse to destroy Gaza.
He couldn't have. He was voted in on his promise of "security". Israel has never felt so unsecure.
In March 2019, Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)
“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”
@@battles146And it's obvious you know nothing about the conflict. The Gazans have always been a separate population than the West Bank with vastly different needs, wants, government etc.
@@battles146 Hamas of the early 80s differed greatly from hamas of today. It originated from Egyptian Muslim Brothers, so its being "a creature of Israel" is no more than a metaphor
@@battles146 We have a lot of these covert operations going on in the US too. I want to read the military officer's book one day (to get the real story).
Great questions. Illuminating information. I just went to Normandy for the 1st time in September. Thanks for your unique style of reporting.
Why was there massive stock short-selling in the stock exchange in Tel Aviv prior 7th october?
A real eye-opener. Thank you
Negotiating more working permits for Gazans worked in Hamas' favor in 3 ways:
1.Reinforced Israel's belief that Hamas did not want another escalation.
2.More money brought into Gaza.
3. *Specific* Hamas-sympathizing Gazans having opportunities to glean intelligence and access to Israel's inner-workings, to report back to Hamas.
Israel was hopeful those Palestine people wanted to work in Israel to bring home money to pay for life's necessities (food, clothing, shelter, education) and believed in peace between the two countries but in reality, those workers were using Israel to help aid Hamas. So sad really.
Everyone is arguing that this war can be done better to avoid civilian deaths EXCEPT Israel but what people are missing is the reason why. Just like Netanyahu wanted Hamas to exist and be the boogie man in Gaza so that Israel can never have peace with Palestinians, there is a NEED by Israel to create a hatred by Palestinians of Israel and OF ISRAEL to Palestinians or else God forbid Peace can happen. This in the eyes of many Israelis is the worst thing that can happen.
Hamas is ISRAELS experiment gone wrong and unfortunately Palestinians have to pay the price for the clean up. Hamas was encouraged and funded by the Netanyahu government for years with "suitcases full of cash" (read the story if you are unaware) and they allowed other countries to support Hamas as well in full knowledge and encouragement by Israel. Netanyahu wanted Hamas because this way he could end any real talks of peace with the Palestinian people. In the West Bank who recognized Israel and decided to not have any armed resistance to them also put in place the Palestinian authority who acted with IDF to secure the area. If IDF wanted to enter West Bank, the Palestinian authority cleared the way for them to come in and fully cooperated with IDF when needed. This is why they have a bad opinion amongst many Palestinians. What did this get the West Bank...... further take over of land, more settlements, more terrorist settlers, and less chance of any freedom. It is unfortunate that Palestinian civilians who have no control over Hamas that Israel made strong, can now be killed while Israel cleans up the monster they created.
Great interview. Katie is so incredibly good at what she does.
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This question, is why I believe that netenyahu is hamas. We aren't blind netenyahu/hiram hirohito
He has a history of bolstering Hamas for his political reasons. Doubt he would actually be part of a terrorist group that aims to take out his state.
Wow! Very informative and I admire their reporting without repeating the same things over again. They spoke in a way that everyone could understand. Comparing this Hamas attack to WWII (the invasion of Normandy) and 911 was relevant.
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Not only is there a question mark against israeli intelligence, but Hamas was able to keep the detail secret and were able carry it out!
Fascinating report.
"Signs" signals officers wrote warnings throughout the year leading up through September 2023.
They let it happen 😂
Does it add up?. Security lapse not possible.
FYI, "A200" is the name of a headlice killing shampoo. Coincidence??🎉😮😂
And Hamas means Violence in Hebrew, coincidence?
the intelligence worked, but policy failed. In my opinion.
Dues anyone hear a movie coming on like ZERO DARk THIRTY?
Just because they heard of possible attacks, does not mean that they knew of a timeline, or of a reality of this happening. There is lots of chatter. If they acted on every piece of chatter, Israel would never get anything done.
S what is the function of intelligence if they are going to ignore such info?
They knew. They were waiting for an attack like this to hsppen, so they had the excuse to get rid of Palestinians in any way possible
THEY LET IT HAPPEN ! NEHTANYAHOU KNEW ! FFS !!
How about 911? What happened to our administration then?
I doubt the comparison is a non-sequitur; does this also serve as a cautionary tale for ignoring climate-change? Willful blindness, ignorance and hubris is a toxic formula for self destruction.
Hubris. The senior observer was at least treated courteously albeit patronized and dismissed. The junior observer was threatened with disciplinary action if s/he continued to insist on bringing such matters to her commanders.... The commanders who ignored the reports of the observers should lose their positions and be demoted. The observer didn't have a strong enough advocate to have duly delivered professional reports given sufficient credence? Those "men", those "leaders" failed their fellow soldiers, their country, their families, their nation, their mothers, their cohort, the entire world because they "thought" rather than listened to observations. They "commanded" IGNORE. ASSUME is not safe. They had the intelligence reports but lacked the ability to comprehend them. And yes, it is very clear that if a person with a Y chromosome and connections had sanctioned them then the terrorists would perhaps have been trapped and killed with no need to attack Gazan civilians.... The incompetence, the slothful hubris, the inability to LISTEN is just painful to witness. They had a job to do and they failed horribly.
It sounds like Israeli security services did not follow the 10th man rule. It would have worked well here, and caught the attack, too bad.
Sounds sketchy to me
My question is, with all the tension and history between Palestine and Israel, why hold a music fest so close to the border without adequate military supervision? No doubt that attack was preventable.
Different. Israel had 40 page D-Day invasion plan, 911 had pieces of information. Very different. Yes, blame Palestinian workers. Adam brings same bias in analysis that took Israel down the wrong road. Ronan assessments less bias.
Great reporting!
OMG! Give it a rest already...are you that desperate for ratings...
If Israel the occupier had asked, the UN would’ve stepped in and diffused Hamas UN would’ve taken control of
Gaza the occupant of Israel ~ Francesca Albanese UN special rapporteur
Ha Ha Ha, oh that's rich..........
@@shainazion4073and lives in her own fantasy about hamas